1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Dave is off this evening. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: He'll be actually back to this on Sunday for the 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: game Broncos and Packers will kind of continue to break 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: that down. Let's check out a couple of texts here 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: on the Kawai Commas Spirit Health text line five six 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: six nine zero. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Who needs national nerds when we have one of our 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: own local nerds? I guess that's me. I'm assuming this's you. Sure, 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll be your nerd. I'll be your arcle. Why need 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to be so antagonistic? What's the antagonistic about that? I'm 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: just in general, I don't know. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mean to be in this particular case. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: This is just one that just kind of, you know, 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: it's a grind my gears moment. This dude very clearly 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: did not watch that game. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: And this is something I mean, I don't. 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: I read Twitter a lot less than I used to 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: for my own mental health sake, so I don't see 19 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: some of this stuff. Sometimes, Like I'll jump on there 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: to to post something if I've got a story, or 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: to weigh in on something if there's you know, there's 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: something that's you know, national news. But I tend to 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: stay off at a little bit more and I didn't 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: see this, and it's just weird. It's just bizarre to 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: me that somebody would write this, let alone somebody would 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: publish it knowing full well this person did not watch 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: that game. 28 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: You either didn't watch a game, you don't know what 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: you're talking about. It's one of the two. 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: And I'm trying to give the benefit of doubt this 31 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: person that they know what they're talking about. 32 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: It was funny with Ben, you know Ben Baldwin, computer cowboy. 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: He was I actually like his stuff quite a bit, 34 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: but he was He quote tweeted this and said, I 35 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: did not watch a snap of this game, but the 36 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: Broncos offense had a ninety six percentile series success moving 37 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: the ball? How could it have been this bad? As 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: compared to him saying calling it disgusting they were running 39 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: the ball? No, I know, and you know, he's saying 40 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: that it was a good like like, I don't understand 41 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: how anybody he's like, I didn't watch a single snap, 42 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: but just going off the numbers, he's like, is a 43 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: ninety sixth percentile success for what they were able to 44 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: accomplish in the game. 45 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I did think it was kind of funny though. 46 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: Because a lot of people were like, well, how am 47 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: I supposed to take your pigons seriously if you're quite 48 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: literally you didn't watch the snap of the football game. 49 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: But then I go to the other side of it 50 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: and say, I actually kind of appreciate the transparency there, 51 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: like I didn't watch this game, and you know what, 52 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I said it. 53 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: On Monday coming off of that game. 54 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: And there were so many really important, good games over 55 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: the weekend this last week. I can understand how that 56 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: specific one with slips through the cracks. It's Broncos Raiders. 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: Raiders are really bad. The Broncos needed to sort of 58 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: check a box and win that game. And so it 59 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: was funny though, because I usually go because I care 60 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: about it. 61 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I know you don't, so you know what to tell 62 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: me again, I care about it. 63 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: I go and I check out the national podcasts and 64 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: articles and I go read all of it. I listened 65 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: to all of it and just get that perspective because 66 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: I watched the game. I did three and a half 67 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: hours of Broncos React where is plugged in but sometimes 68 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: siloed here in Denver about it. But I wanted to see, Okay, 69 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: what are people saying about the game, there was nothing 70 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: out there, you know why, because there were much bigger 71 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 2: games of importance to break down. And so I can understand, 72 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: like when all things being said, the Broncos being the 73 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: Raiders was a checked box, and then people sort of 74 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: circle back to it after the fact, and then you 75 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: got some of these hot takes like that one. But 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I just think that was kind of funny when he's 77 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: basically admits I didn't watch a single snap of this game, 78 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, you know, that's okay, it's. 79 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Okay to not watch. And that's what I think. 80 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: That's the reason I don't turn to or care about 81 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: a lot of national opinion on that kind of stuff. Again, 82 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: it's surface level analysis, and people didn't I mostly don't 83 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: watch the games. They get the highlights and kind of 84 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: go from there. I every once in a while I'll 85 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: come across an opinion. I'm just it's nice to you know, 86 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: check in or or you know, maybe put my own 87 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: beliefs or whatever up to U, up. 88 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: To critique and see what somebody else thinks. 89 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: But it's it's just weird. It's just weird, Like it's 90 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: weird reading that I don't know why I'm. 91 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: So stuck on this right now, but I'm absolutely. 92 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: Flabbergasted that somebody did an outlet like The Ringer, which 93 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: is known for long form and ostensibly high brow and 94 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: quality journalist, and published this, which is clearly absolute BS. 95 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: A couple more texts here. Heye, Ben, when do you 96 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: see Ben Powers and Drew Sanders returning? And how long 97 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: will Pat Bryant be out? 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Pat's gonna be out? At least this week. 99 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: It'll little re assessment there that soft tissue stuff can 100 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: be tricky. Ben Powers, Uh, he should be back pretty soon, 101 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: maybe even this week. I think they're gearing for next week. 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: But we'll see Drew. I don't know that's supposed to 103 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: be fairly soon. But I I don't know off the 104 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: top of my head on that. When I could look 105 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: into that. Okay, Hey, Nerd Albright, I like that. I 106 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: know you have quite the connections. How can I get 107 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: a good personal supply of Eagle rare? Oh double Egal rare? 108 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh yeah, there you go, Ben, that's a pretty rare. 109 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: I can look into that for you, I, Nerd Allbright, 110 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: hereto a second, I got a I got a place 111 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: with me. Okay, while you're there's another text for me 112 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: in there somewhere. Read that one while I'm clicking through 113 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: to myself, why is dark wing dot com? It made 114 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: my whole day. You went up a notch in my. 115 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Book, sweet sweet it. 116 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: It's rare by a way to get a eagle, rare 117 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: to have been elevate anything. Really this year Rivers right 118 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: now at forty four is safer a quarterback than Manning 119 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: is a bronco at any time. 120 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that's not true. 121 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: Looks like okay to answer that Texas question, looks like 122 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: and this is some going to give myself away here, 123 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: So don't. 124 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: You guys go buy it? Everything up? 125 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: The drink Hacker has some models available in the tenure. 126 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Out there if you're looking for it. It looks like 127 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: about thirty forty bucks a bottle. So you go. 128 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: And to the guy who was wondering what rugby tilt, 129 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: I'll be watching this weekend Bordeaux taking all the scarlets, So. 130 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: Who cares? 131 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Oh one more here, Ben and Ryan, what are the 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: Colts going to do next year? Do they run it 133 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: back with Jones? 134 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Yeah, it'll be Daniel Jones. Okay, 135 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: so even but they're gonna need it. I mean unless 136 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: they clean house, which I don't expect him to do. 137 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: Now, I would think so, I think they've had enough 138 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: success this year that there's proof of concept. Yeah, you 139 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: just need better quarterback play. The interesting one will be 140 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. Oh he'll be going okay, so just like 141 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: that's done. 142 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's done. That's been done. 143 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: They'll they'll draft someone, you know, Daniel Jones will be there, 144 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: but they'll draft a project behind them. Look for somebody 145 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: with a little bit of athleticism, you know. I mean 146 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: you can see who Shane Stikeen has coached over the years. Now, 147 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: obviously Phil Rivers is one of those guys, but you 148 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: go back and look at some of the other guys 149 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: that he's coached over the years. 150 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: The Jalen Heards, ANTHONYA. 151 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: Richardson, Daniel Jones guys, the guys that they've drafted, you know, 152 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: they got a. 153 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Little athleticism to him. 154 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: So as we look at this draft class coming up, 155 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Pavia 156 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: be in play potentially for UH for for India in 157 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 3: the later rounds mid rounds. 158 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Hey been old bright, Happy birthday, that's a good one. 159 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: That's that's going to catch up that that's been too clever. 160 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: That's gonna catch up in the old rights. That's a problem. Wow, yeah, 161 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: that is pretty clever. Thank you though, rack them Okay, 162 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: So Joe Lombardi had well, first of all, all all 163 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: the discussions we used about Micah Parsons, let me ask 164 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: you this quick question because this this was banteaed about 165 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 166 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: I know you weren't reading Twitter to day, but. 167 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: I'll just say that a couple of Packers fans and 168 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Broncos fans went back and forth about Michaeh Parsons versus 169 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Nick Benito because they have the same amount of sacks 170 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: right now. 171 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: They both have twelve and a half sacks. 172 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: Nick Benito making twenty million less per year by the 173 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: way of Mikeaeh Parsons. How far off in your opinion 174 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: is Nick Benito from Michaeh Parsons As your assessment of 175 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: the talent of the player. 176 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: He's in a different tier. 177 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: I mean the productivity tiers, and that the athletic talent tiers 178 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: are two different things. In there's of productivity, they're they're 179 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: probably on the same tier. Part of that is because 180 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: Nick Benito has a John Franklin Myers and a Zach 181 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: Allen and a Malcolm Roach and a TJ. 182 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Jones and all that kind of stuff in front of 183 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: him to help him out. 184 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, a John Cooper on the other side, 185 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons think kind of does it himself. 186 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: And you know, people would point to Rashan Gary. 187 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: Rashan Gary split in snaps now because he's faded ever 188 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: since the first couple of games of the season. Had 189 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: he had like seven sacks early on. It's done like 190 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: nothing since he's splitting snaps now. Michael Parsons is I 191 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: think you have him Miles Garrett and a fully healthy 192 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: maybe TJ. Watt, maybe a Nick Bosa, maybe those guys 193 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: in that upper upper upper tier that can do it 194 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: with no help. And then you know, I think that 195 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: Nick Bideo's in the tier right below that. 196 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I actually don't have too much of an issue 197 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: with that. 198 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: I think people will say, looking at the numbers, why 199 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: are we not talking about Nick. 200 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Benito in that tier? 201 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: And maybe a couple of years from now, maybe he 202 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: finds his way into that. 203 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Part of it is also where you're drafted. 204 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: Right, I agree he does, you know, I mean, Michael 205 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 3: Parsons is the top twelve draft pick. Where was the 206 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: last pick of the second round, Miles Garrett, you know, 207 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: top of the draft. 208 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: I mean, these guys come into the league and they 209 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: they end up being as advertised. And so when you 210 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: have that kind of put on you and then you 211 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: end up doing it at the pro level, then it 212 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: of course is gonna stay with you. Benito drafted in 213 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: the second round, a little bit of a different deal. 214 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Now again, he has taken his game to another level. 215 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: I mean he could have been as a Day two pick, 216 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: just been a rotational edge rusher guy. 217 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: We talked about it after his rookie year. 218 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Maybe this guy isn't a full time edge rusher, and 219 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: now he's ultimately worked himself not only into a full 220 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: time edge rusher, but also a guy that obviously got 221 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: handsomely paid and rewarded for it because he's been very 222 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: good here in Denver. There's the reason why he's and 223 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't mean this as a pejority, because I think 224 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: he's phenomenal. Twenty million less. Lebroncos didn't have to pay 225 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: him forty six million, and that's actually a good thing 226 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: because you could spend that money on other players and 227 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: still get twelve and a half sacks. 228 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a good thing. It's a good thing. 229 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: But rather have Zach Allen and Nick Benito or which 230 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: ather have Michael Parsons. 231 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: The answer is pretty obvious. 232 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: All yes, yeah, And so we're we're at a point 233 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: where it's like people think it's a negative thing to 234 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: say that he's not Michaeh. Parsons or in that category, 235 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: and I'm saying that's a good thing. It's a good 236 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: thing that you're not. 237 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: You can be honest about it without being you know, 238 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: without being a hater. I mean, Nick Benito, he is 239 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: a supremely talented pass rusher, don't get me wrong. 240 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I just think that there's four or. 241 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: Five guys on the Mount Rushmore right now and he's 242 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: not one of them. I would say that he's in 243 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: that next snip to the top of that next year. 244 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: So Joe Lombardi asked about Micah Parsons, and of course 245 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: the plan for him. 246 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Here's what he said, really across the whole front. 247 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: The guys that we have to block during training camp 248 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: is you know, we always say iron sharpens iron, and 249 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: I think that really helps prepare our guys for the season, 250 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: and then you know, it feels like every week we've 251 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: got one of these guys that we got a block, 252 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: I mean, dealt with it last week, and you know, 253 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: Houston had two guys. I mean every almost every team 254 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: seems to have one of these guys. And obviously, you know, 255 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: this is one of the elite of the elite. You know, 256 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: they do a good job moving them around and you know, 257 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: you do your best to try to help your tackles, 258 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: but when he shows up at different spots, it makes 259 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: it a lot more challenging. So yeah, it's just definitely 260 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: one of those highlighted players. Get every play, you know, 261 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: where is he and how are we handling? Obviously, our 262 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: offensive line does a great job, and this is going 263 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: to be one of their biggest challenges in the year 264 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: this week because you know, if if Micah wasn't on 265 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: this team, then we'd be staring at Shaun Gary and 266 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: worrying about him because he's you know, right right there 267 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: as far as one of the good edge rushers. So yeah, 268 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: well we'll have our work cutoff for cutout. 269 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: For us for sure. 270 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: I asked Dave in the first hour, then which side 271 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: of the ball is under more pressure, Like which side 272 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: of the ball has the more difficult task? 273 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: On Sunday with the defense, I said the same thing. 274 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: The Broncos are a man team and Jordan Love is 275 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: at his best against man. Conversely, the Packers are a 276 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: zone team and Bonix is at his worst against zone. 277 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Now he's played fairly well last couple of weeks against zone. 278 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's going to be interesting to see. 279 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: You got a strength on strength matchup, you know, on 280 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: the one side, and then a strength verst weakness matchup 281 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: on the other. And I would suggest that I think 282 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: that the defense has to continue to hold teams to 283 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: a certain number of point in order for us to 284 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: win games. 285 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: The offense can score. 286 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: You know, the offense can score twenty, but if you know, 287 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: if you get more than twenty, we're in We're probably 288 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: in trouble. 289 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm a hundred percent with. 290 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: You, And it feels like that that side of the ball. 291 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: I actually think the way the Broncos offense is playing 292 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: and this is this high efficiency offense. I went over 293 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: some stats from Nick Cosmier in the first hour about 294 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: how bo isn't attempting nearly as many deep passes, like 295 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: he was actually right up there with Matthew Stafford through 296 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: the first ten weeks or so of the season in 297 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: deep passing attempts, but his conversion rate was like twenty 298 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: nine percent, Like he was completing only twenty nine percent 299 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: of those deep passes versus like Stafford, who's like one 300 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: of the best in the league. So then you fast 301 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: forward here to the last three weeks in a smaller sample, 302 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: but the offense seems to have quote unquote turned a corner. 303 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: He's only attempted to ten yeah, and he's completing fifty percent, 304 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: and the offense is looking way better. And the offense 305 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: is looking way better, and they're a lot more on schedule. 306 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: Plus their third down conversion rate went from seven and 307 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: a half to get a first down to six point four, 308 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: and now they're middle of the pack versus one of 309 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: the worst in the league. 310 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: So all of those numbers tell you a story. 311 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: That as they've sort of changed into this final stretch, 312 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: they've kind of maybe discovered a few things about what 313 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: they are as an offense and how they can most 314 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: efficiently move down the field. 315 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Matriculate if you will. I know that's your favorite term, 316 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: But the thing about it. 317 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: Here is is that can work against the Packers, who 318 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: are going to try to get up and impact things. 319 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: With Micah Parsons and Rashaan Gary and in Nagari, I 320 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: mean there they are kind of built to even if 321 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: they don't get the sack, because they don't always get 322 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: the sack, right, The Broncos lead the league in sacks 323 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: that the Packers I think are kind of middle of 324 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: the package. Yeah, they're not a huge yeah, the thirty 325 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: three sacks, which is eleventh in the league right now, 326 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: but they get a lot of pressures and they do 327 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: impact things. But bo getting the ball out fast I 328 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: think works really well. I guess what they're going to 329 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: try to do. 330 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the key to beating bon Nicks has 331 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: been to dial the pressure back and try to beat 332 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: them with the front fin And the teams that have 333 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: had the most successive been the teams that have that. 334 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Look at the Cults, look at the Chargers. 335 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: Washington's game plan was pretty good, uh, in terms of, 336 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: you know, just sending the front four, not trying to 337 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: blitz him. So I think that's that's the way you 338 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: you slow down Bow as it were. 339 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: As far as the rest of it, goes. 340 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I I there are some things 341 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: like I wish that Sean Payton would realize that he 342 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: has Marvin Mims on this team. I think a lot 343 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: of those overthrows early in the year on the deep 344 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: balls would have been overthrows if you had your most 345 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: explosive weapon out there trying to catch him instead of, 346 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, spamming targets to Troy Franklin. 347 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's that I have frustrations, I. 348 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Have bones to pick with that kind of stuff, But 349 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: I kind of dial back to criticisms for now. 350 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: We're winning games. 351 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: You know, with the losses come back up, maybe I'll 352 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: maybe I'll bring that stuff back out there, But as 353 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: it sits right now. I mean, you know, on the 354 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: one hand, I want to I want to sit here 355 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: and kind of complain about the fact that our most 356 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: explosive weapon, you know, as the Lamborghini, stays in the garage. 357 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I mean, we're winning games 358 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: without it, So what am I gonna do? 359 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: You think we might see more of him without pap Ryant. 360 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: I mean there's a there's a huge part of me 361 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: that hopes that would be the case. And then there's 362 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: the part of me that's like, it's Sean Payton, We're 363 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: going to see so much Little Jordan Humphrey. 364 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I can't even you know, I can't stand it. Yeah, 365 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: it would make sense based on you know, people like 366 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: are we gonna see alive to more? 367 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, you know, I would try that, 368 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: but Sean Payton is probably like I've got fifty plays. 369 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Sean Payton has got like the same number of plays 370 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: for Little Jordan Hmphrey that Arthur Smith has for John 371 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: hus Smith. 372 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Right now. 373 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Nice, here's Joe Lombardi because he was asked about this, 374 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: the same drives and that they were able to do 375 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: and if that's something that's I guess maybe sustainable down 376 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: the stretch here, if that's something that says they've sort 377 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: of discovered something. 378 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say about it. 379 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: You know, I told though after the game, like, you know, 380 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: you really you want to go out there and have 381 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: these explosive plays and sometimes the defense doesn't allow you 382 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: to do that. And for him to be able to 383 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: just take what the defense was given us and you know, 384 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: have those long drives our defense off the field and 385 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: able to get down and get points at the end 386 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: of those drives was huge, And yeah, I think the 387 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: more you know, obviously he's got the ability to make 388 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: those big plays, but when they're not given and we 389 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: can just take what's given, and it's hard to do. 390 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's just takes one tip pass or one 391 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: bad read or one misthrow and you're behind the chains. 392 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: And when you can consistently do that and then you know, 393 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: hopefully mixed in a few explosives, you know it's gonna 394 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: it's gonna up. 395 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Our chance to scoring. 396 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: And part of it feels like, and you correct me 397 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, part of it feels like, as you 398 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: are completing these short passes and getting five, six, sometimes 399 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: seven or eight yards, you're inviting the defense to ignore 400 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: some of the deeper shots that you might be able 401 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: to get later on. Now, they didn't need to do 402 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: it against the Raiders, and they just kind of moved 403 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: the ball like you clearly saw. And even our guy 404 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Tim Jenkins pointed it out. He's like, it felt like 405 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: a preseason game. It felt very vanilla in the approach, 406 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: and we talked about that on Tuesday. He's like, the 407 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: way they were going about this, He's like, there was 408 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: nothing really creative about this offensive game plan, so. 409 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: They felt it didn't didn't feel like they needed. 410 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: To push the ball too much against the raders that 411 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: they might need to against some of these teams down 412 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: the stretch. But it feels like you're going to be 413 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: able to invite some opportunities for down the field attack 414 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: if you keep, you know, gashing for five or six 415 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: yards every play. 416 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's the old saying, and you know in 417 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: stocking best you can't lose money, take it a profit. Yeah, 418 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: And that's the same thing applies with that kind of stuff. 419 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: You can't lose money gaining yards. You can't lose yardage 420 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: gaining yards. And so if you're you know, taking that 421 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: underneath stuff, taking what defenses give you, you're you're usually 422 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 3: going to put yourself in position to get points at 423 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: the end of a drive. Now I get the idea 424 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: that it takes one thing to go wrong, a holding 425 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: call something else puts you behind the sticks, and then 426 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: you have to have one of those bigger players. 427 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I get that. 428 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: And the odds of needing that goes up if you're 429 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: going free point three yards per play, because you need 430 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: more plays to get down there to get the end zone. 431 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 3: But if you're you know, if you if you can 432 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: find ways to continue to convert that and eliminate the 433 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: penalty issue, you're gonna be in. 434 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: A pretty good spot. 435 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: Am I am I oversimplifying it though, Well, everything in 436 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: this medium is reductive to a point. But no, I 437 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: think that that's I mean, I think that's that's what 438 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: it is at this point. Just if you're not if 439 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: the deep stuff isn't there, don't continue to force it 440 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: hoping that you're going to do some low percentage thing. 441 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: Part of coaching is putting your guys in the highest 442 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 3: percentage you know possible to be able to win games. 443 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: And what's the highest percentage possible? Right? Not take him 444 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: with the defenses give you. 445 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: I think I asked Dave this yesterday. If he thinks 446 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: that Bo gets to the checkdown a little too fast, 447 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: I think Bo gets to everything a little too fast. 448 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: I think it was it was nice to watch him 449 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: do that look off on uh who was at Devin 450 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: White on the Raiders, You know, I think it was 451 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: nice to see him kind of get it relaxed to 452 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: the point where he does that. I think he's just 453 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: I think he plays too tight early in games. And 454 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's nerves or what, but I 455 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: think he gets I think he's too sped up. I 456 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: think he gets to stuff too quickly and doesn't necessarily 457 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: he's so invested in not taking a negative play that 458 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: he sometimes doesn't allow himself the time for. 459 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Things to properly develop to get something down the field. 460 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, we'll have more sound from the coordinators coming up. 461 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Also, Joe Burrow with an introspective moment that had some 462 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: people wondering if he's contemplating his future in the league. 463 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: We'll get to all that coming over next. 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So boy just 477 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: just blanked it vance No, no, no, no, no. 478 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Oh yeah, we're gonna hear from Joe Burrow here, 479 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: just amount of one. 480 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: But I do want to ask to bet the AFC 481 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: North because you were telling me during the break that 482 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: there's a scenario where we have new coaches for all 483 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: four teams. 484 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if well, if Toman retires, Tom's not getting fired. 485 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: I'll just say that. But if Tom were to retire, there's. 486 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: A pretty good possibility you could have new coaches all 487 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: the way across new he coaches all the way across 488 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: the AFC North Cleveland is strongly considering blowing out Kevin 489 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: Stefanskins starting over. The Ravens have kind of gotten to 490 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: the end of the rope with John Harball and or 491 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: or have been doing background on some other some other things. 492 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: Possibly even Jesse Mint are there. And then of course 493 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: the Bengals, you know, in this Joe Burrow situation where 494 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: he's you know, I felt like that thing needed somebody 495 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: need to be playing Hello darkness, my old friend in 496 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: the background of these comments is it was you know, 497 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: you could just tell like he's talking about the. 498 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: Fun not being there anymore, and you know, the brain 499 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: and the body not worth with everything else. 500 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: I you know, this shades Andrew luck Man, and it's 501 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: entirely possible that they need to get some some new 502 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: blood in there. 503 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what everybody really is. I don't 504 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: know assessing there. 505 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: In fact, under the comments from those videos that have surfaced, 506 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: everybody keeps putting like Andrew luck references to it, because 507 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: that's what it feels like. 508 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Here's uh, here was that sound from Joe Burrow. 509 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 5: I want to keep doing this. I have to have 510 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 5: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot, 511 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing 512 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: it for? So that's mindset I'm trying to bring to 513 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: the table. 514 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: How much it's called to have fun and in the season, 515 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: what you've been through physically, emotionally, all of it. 516 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: Is it tough? Certainly? What was the changing point? I'm 517 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure there's. 518 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: A singular moment or of time. It's just uh, reflection, 519 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: reflection on a lot of things that I've done and 520 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: been through in my career. I think I've been through 521 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: more than most and it's certainly not easy on the 522 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 5: brain or the body. So it's trying off. 523 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing it again. 524 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: He saw if you seem like through something on your mind, 525 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: maybe I'm reading too much into it. 526 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: Seemed frustrated. 527 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: There's just a lot of things going on right now, 528 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 5: A lot of things going on right. 529 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Now, all related first only all the both. 530 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't blame him necessarily. Mean, think about 531 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: what his careers look like. His rookie year he got 532 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: hurt right that offensive line was bad and he ended 533 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: up believe tearing his acl. Now he was able to 534 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: play in back to back sixteen game seasons that the 535 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: shortened season in twenty twenty three, got another injury, played 536 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: a full season last year, but the defense was so 537 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: bad and even though he put up unbelievable like Madden 538 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: numbers four to three touchdowns, nine picks almost through for 539 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: five thousand yards, they missed the playoffs. 540 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: And then this year has been because he had an 541 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: injury again. 542 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: So for Joe Burrow, who's taking a lot of hits 543 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: for certainly physically had ailments. 544 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: And then they had a couple of runs there. 545 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: They obviously went to the Super Bowl, I can't blame 546 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: him for having a little bit of a gotta lee, man, 547 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, what are we doing here? 548 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: What are we working towards? 549 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 2: And then maybe there is a mindset of we might 550 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: be resetting of the coaching staff and then you're gonna 551 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: have a new scheme you gotta work with well and 552 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow he's the scheme there. 553 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: Like Zach Taylor. They're running Zach Taylor's they're running. Joe 554 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: Burrow runs the offense. It's like when you have Aaron Rodgers, 555 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: you're running what Aaron Rodgers does. Sure, you know a 556 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: little bit of that. I thought Zach Taylor was a 557 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: decent coach, don't get me wrong. And I obviously took 558 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: the since A Bengals to a super Bowl. But again, 559 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: you're kind of at a point where you need to 560 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: bring some somebody with some defensive blood in there to 561 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: build that defense back. You've got the offense, you're paying 562 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 3: the offense, and they're gonna be what they are. You've 563 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: got You've got to find ways to build a defense 564 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: because I can't stop anybody, and you're perfessionally losing games 565 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: where you're scoring thirty points, you're still losing games, so 566 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: they've got to figure that out. Side note, if you 567 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: guys haven't seen it, ed Orgeron talked about recruiting Joe 568 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: Burrow down there to LSU, and it is one of 569 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: the funniest things you've ever seen. If you've ever get 570 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: a chance. He talks about how, you know, Joe's not 571 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: much of a talker, but his brother Dan is and uh, 572 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, he's got Dan on the phone grabbing his 573 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: manhood and telling him, you know, is. 574 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: He gonna be a Tiger? He's not going to Cincinnati's 575 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: going to be a Tiger. 576 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 3: And ed Orgeron, you know, so you got the thick 577 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: cajun and and just it's one of the best things 578 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: you've ever seen if you've ever seen. If you ever 579 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: want to see a football coach talk about recruiting a 580 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: player at a level that you probably have never seen 581 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: a football coach talking about recruiting player. 582 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: It's well worth your time. He's quite the character. I like, 583 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest recruiters of all time. 584 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, whether whatever you think of him as a coach, he's, yeah, 585 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: a great recruiter, but also just from a personality standpoint, 586 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's pretty fun. Which I was 587 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: just thinking about this as we were talking about the 588 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: coaching jobs in the Ape and North. Which would be 589 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: the most enticing intriguing one, Like, if you're a coaching candidate, 590 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: and let's just argun sake to say, they all open up, 591 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: they all open up this offseason, which one would you want? 592 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: So the Steelers and. 593 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: The Ravens have the security longevity factor, right, Like, you 594 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: get to be a coach there, you're probably gonna be there, 595 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 3: and you've got a. 596 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Great organization to build through. 597 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: Uh, if you're the Bengals, you've already got the quarterback 598 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: in the and the offense set. 599 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: You've got a ready built, you know, offense. 600 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: So if you're a defensive minded guy that since any 601 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: job might jump out. It's a little bit because all 602 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: I got to do is put my expertise in here 603 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: and we got we gotta plug and play offense. 604 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: I know. 605 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: There's the Browns. They exist. They have two first rounders though. 606 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah they exist. Yeah, you're you. 607 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: Got a little bit of a boat anchor on you 608 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: right now. With the Deshaun Watson contract. I got a 609 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: Watson contract. He will be there, he will be there. 610 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no choice yeah, they have no choice in that 611 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: You've got a shador who's playing well enough that you know, 612 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: you probably need to see that through a little bit. 613 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 614 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: You got a couple of first rounders that you could 615 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: add some pieces here or there. You got it from 616 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: your pass rusher, but there's just so much missing from 617 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: that team, and they need to move away philosophically from 618 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: the general manager that they have and into more of 619 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: a football moded general manager. They were at their best 620 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: when they had analytics guys build up a war chest 621 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: and a football guy spend the spend it uh with Dorsey, 622 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they brought another analytics 623 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: guy back in in the middle of that, and instead 624 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: of seeing it through. 625 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: I think I'd say the Ravens. If I was gonna 626 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: rank him, I'd probably put the Ravens. M. You're you're 627 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: right about the Bengals, man. I mean that Joe Joe 628 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: Burrow like one of the best quarterbacks in the league, 629 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 2: and you've got Jamar Chase under contract. 630 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: You get to Higgins under contract. 631 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: Like, dude, if you're Vance Joseph and you're and you're 632 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: sitting there and you're like manifest job comes open up. 633 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: Into Cincinnati before I can go build a defense my way, 634 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: We've already got an offense. I'll bring Davis web or 635 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: bring you know, West Phillips somebody like that with you know, 636 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: c Like you. 637 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Gotta be looking your chops at that kind of job. Yeah, 638 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: that's tough. But the longevity of the Steelers and the 639 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Ravens is very When you get into. 640 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: Those, you're in like as you're a later, you're a 641 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: made man u R. You know what I mean, right right, 642 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: right right, Like this isn't Patti walking. 643 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: Into the room, like you know, that's nice, good reference, 644 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: which is what it happened if the Browns. 645 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: But no doubt that would be the least even with 646 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: Miles Garret's going Defensive Player of the Year, that would 647 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: be the least enticing because you have all of these quarterbacks, 648 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: even with the two first rounders, and you just don't 649 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: know what you're gonna do with any of it. Like 650 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: and the fan base, like, let's just say Shudor Sanders 651 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: finishes off the season playing similar to the love. Maybe 652 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: he's not three hundred and sixt passing yards per game, 653 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: let's just say playing kind of this bombastic some days, 654 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: it's great some days it's just I don't know what's 655 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: going on. That's the point is he shows potential, But 656 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: you had Dylan Gabriel also this year, so I guess. 657 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean, theoretically you just move on from him. I 658 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: don't know, but the fan base is gonna want to 659 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: launch Shador. Meanwhile, you have this massive contract to Deshaun Watson, 660 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: and you have the two first round picks, and if 661 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: you got a new coaching staff, they may not want 662 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: any of these quarterbacks, Like whoever you're bringing in may 663 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: not love Shador, may not love to Sean for obvious reasons, 664 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: and say, well, we have two first rounders and we're 665 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: gonna be picking in the top three. Why can't I 666 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: just have for Anan Mendoza. Why can't I just have. 667 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you've got a deal in place 668 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: to move if s your door plays well enough and 669 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: you've got a deal to move him, let's let's play 670 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: the hypothetical. 671 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Game out here the Raiders. 672 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: Then you move Shador of the Raiders, you get a 673 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: couple of draft picks back, you know that kind of stuff. 674 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: You go draft your guy welf. 675 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: Mendoza comes in and it's just kind of okay, and 676 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: Shador goes and lights it up in Las Vegas. Then 677 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: you look like a prize idiot right off the bat, 678 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: and your leash is super short in a situation like that. 679 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Browns would very clearly be the last 680 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: group in there. 681 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you take the sure thing over the 682 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: potential every time, and that's at the end of the day. 683 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: That's that's what that is. Like you you're the Browns. 684 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: It's the potential of those first round picks, the mystery 685 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: boxes that were and with Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow's Joe Burrow, Well. 686 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: The last one here on the Ravens. 687 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: What is in your assessment or what are people saying 688 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: around the league on why they're struggling so bad? 689 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, La Mar's hurt and he's playing through undisclosed injury, 690 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: and then you've got host to disclose that way. Yeah, 691 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: well you know how that goes. And then you've got 692 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: you know, some defensive players that have either gotten old 693 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 3: or fallen through. You know, as far as that kind 694 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: of stuff goes, You know, the messaging has kind of 695 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: gotten stale. 696 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: What what is hardball going to do that he hasn't 697 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: done before? 698 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: He's been there for two decades, like what what is 699 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: he gonna you know, almost twenty or eighteen years something 700 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: like that. 701 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: What is what is he going to do? 702 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 3: That's you know what, what new thing is he going 703 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: to bring to the table you haven't heard before or 704 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: everybody hasn't heard before as far as that kind of 705 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: stuff goes. I think, you know, Harball is one of 706 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: those guys like Sean Payton where the floor is certainly high. 707 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: You just don't know, you know, how often are you 708 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: making a Super Bowl? You know, with with that coach? 709 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: And that's that's sort of the question. That's been the 710 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: question on Sean Payton, you know, with you go back 711 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: to the Drew Brees and everything with new with New 712 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: Orleans and you had a you know, you had a 713 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: top ten, top five all time quarterback and you made 714 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: you know, one Super Bowl. The floor was high, seven 715 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: to nine was the worst you were ever going to finish. 716 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: But you know what, what are you really looking at overall? 717 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: And maybe you need to bring somebody into to get 718 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: him over the hump. 719 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. Veteran active military member or first responder with 720 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: twenty five hundre dollars through February first, submit your nomination 721 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: name and they're deserving reason for twenty five hundred dollars 722 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: at KWA Colorado dot com slash contest. It's a Heroes 723 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: thank you presented by Common Spirit Health and Fix the 724 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: twenty four seven Checking with somebody with the packers looking 725 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: forward to that packers fans man, they're feeling feeling pretty froggy, 726 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: feeling pretty good. Worried about this one, I'll see, Yeah, 727 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: you're worried about everything. Uh. If you missed our interviews earlier, 728 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: Jail Skinner, Jim Moore fantastic. Jim Moore was amazing. He 729 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: is O great, great dude too, so excited about that hire. 730 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: You probably get hear it too if you get a 731 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: chance to go back and listen. 732 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: To on the podcast, I was grinning from ear to ear. 733 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: It was very clear how excited you Did you begin 734 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: any questions as an alum? 735 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 736 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: I did, okay, as listen, just like when Bob Sagett 737 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: gave me the energy to Rolling Stone, you know, as 738 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: an artist, an. 739 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Artist, an artist. 740 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: No, I didn't ask him as an alum, but I 741 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: mentioned I may have mentioned in. 742 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Passing a couple of times a few times my school, 743 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: we haven't had a lot to be proud or. 744 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: Excited about in a minute. Yeah, so forgive me for 745 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: for Gushia. 746 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited for c It's good. It's a good high. Yeah, 747 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited for SeeU. It got a great hired oc 748 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm excited for Colorado football and general. 749 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: See you did get a very big high when you 750 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: going to get bring him on in VCT. He's gonna 751 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: come jump on the show. I'm just not sure when 752 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: what exactly that's going to happen yet. So Brand and 753 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: Marian we're talking about here. Yeah, all right, So we 754 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: got Thursday Night football coming up here, and of course 755 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: you have Broncos Country Tonight. A nice text here by 756 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: the way. So I very much enjoyed the last hour 757 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: and a half. Brought back some BCT memories. Thank you 758 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: for listening, OGBCTAM. So we got to Tampa Bay and 759 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: uh Atlanta. We'll go over the pick here in just 760 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: a little bit. Mike Evans is back, but I guess 761 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 2: the reports are that it is going to be kind 762 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: of limited for him. It basically go lying work, That's 763 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: what it feels like. Yeah, we we got a couple 764 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: of questions on yeah, like should. 765 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: I start Mike Evins. I was like, do you have 766 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: other options? 767 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: If you have other options, I probably would, But at 768 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: the same time, we know how lethal he can be 769 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: in the red zone and just takes one touchdown catch 770 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: and then you feel like it was justified in playing him. 771 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: So I the least I have. 772 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: Mike Kevin said, I'm I'm waiting for all the fantasy 773 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: people asking out there, but I I I mean, Chris 774 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: Godwin's a full go a Mecca book. I've been such 775 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: a big fan of his. There's been a lot of 776 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: Broncos fans. I wish the Broncos would have been positioned 777 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: to take a Mecca Buca, but he went, of course, 778 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: one pick ed he was. 779 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there were there was somebody who had 780 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: a rumor going around. I can tell he was not 781 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: gonna be the guy, but there's somebody that was adamant 782 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: about that rumor for a while