Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Here we go slowly on a Friday morning on seven
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 2: The Browns have been so bad for so long twenty five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: almost what thirty quarterbacks now in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Terrible football team, I mean, god awful. And they know.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna do anything this season, not a damn thing,
Speaker 2: and what do they do? They still find a way
Speaker 2: to bone the Steelers. It's the best. It is the
Speaker 2: best seeing the dejected Steeler fans leave Paycorp last night
Speaker 2: as the Bengals went thirty three to thirty one. That
Speaker 2: is a one game winning streak. Now three and four
Speaker 2: they're right in the hunt, still behind Pittsburgh, but hey,
Speaker 2: you just beat the boys on top. James Rapine is
Speaker 2: here work on at about twenty five minutes of sleep
Speaker 2: from Bengals Talk dot com Lockdown Bengals every Day's Bengals
Speaker 2: Day with James Rapine and the podcast. James, I know
Speaker 2: it's hard getting up this early after but but it
Speaker 2: makes it easier when when you win in that fashion too.
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine what Mike Tomlin was saying
Speaker 2: on that long walk from the locker room, the visuor's
Speaker 2: locker room to the bus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so mad. He is so mad at the
Speaker 4: Browns right now. So good you gave them Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: and he dice is my defense up? And yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean it's uh. It was a long walk from Mike
Speaker 4: Tomlin for sure, and a huge season saving win at
Speaker 4: least for now for the Bengals.
Speaker 2: This feels like a season changing win. And the turning
Speaker 2: point in that game to me was it's it's second quarter.
Speaker 2: And let me just look at the first quarter for
Speaker 2: a second here, right, We're watching the game and there's
Speaker 2: some miscues with the Steelers. There's the I don't know
Speaker 2: what was going with that fake flea flicker where Flacca
Speaker 2: was yelling his running back, and then the interceptions and penalties,
Speaker 2: but it's still ten nothing Pittsburgh Like this is like
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Right, I'm just up and invest time and
Speaker 2: and get no sleep and watch this game and then
Speaker 2: be so ticked off I can't go to bed because
Speaker 2: they had a chance and they blew it. But it's
Speaker 2: like seven of you know, Pittsburgh. Chase Mitch is a catch,
Speaker 2: Brown drops the ball, Yosha vash drops another one. Mims
Speaker 2: is jumping on a hardcount on the same drive, no
Speaker 2: pass rush without Trey. This is setting up to be disaster, right,
Speaker 2: But then Aaron Rodgers, I don't know what he's thinking,
Speaker 2: throws this ball for DK Metcalf. Here comes DJ Turner,
Speaker 2: who has been balling out this season, rips the ball
Speaker 2: away from one of the best interceptions of the season.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the ball goes Cincinnati's way with
Speaker 2: what forty three seconds left in the half, and.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the Bengals are in business.
Speaker 2: That that to me was like the turning point for
Speaker 2: the I think taking the lead for the first time
Speaker 2: since Burrow went down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what's wild is the Bengals didn't get
Speaker 5: off to a fast start. This wasn't prime time coming
Speaker 5: out at home season on the line. You grabbed the
Speaker 5: game right away and with the opposite is gonnat two
Speaker 5: third downs, get a touchdown. Aaron Rodgers has over eight
Speaker 5: seconds of the throw on their opening drive on that
Speaker 5: that touchdown pass to start things that John Smith and
Speaker 5: You're like, okay, defense, and that was kind of a
Speaker 5: scene for the defense. And then on offense they fun
Speaker 5: on fourth and four and their midfield and I'm like, Zach,
Speaker 5: why are you punting? And so they got off to
Speaker 5: a flow start, and to your point, they're down ten
Speaker 5: to nothing, and with four forty two left they swore
Speaker 5: and they go on to score seventeen points in full
Speaker 5: forty two of the first half. And I just want
Speaker 5: to note this and really hammer this home. They hadn't
Speaker 5: scored a touchdown in the first half, Nope, since Bill
Speaker 5: Burrow was healthy. And so for them to score seventeen points,
Speaker 5: You're right. The defense, Jordan Battle had the first interception,
Speaker 5: really nice catch on a redep down field, really bad
Speaker 5: ball by Aaron Rodgers. And then DJ Turner with an
Speaker 5: outstanding play. So the defense did step up really for
Speaker 5: the only time in that sequence there, and you go
Speaker 5: from down ten to up seventeen ten at the half
Speaker 5: and you get the ball out of half time. A
Speaker 5: huge turn of events there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two great picks and those guys are playing great,
Speaker 2: maybe more in them a little bit, and you know,
Speaker 2: watching game, all of a sudden momentums in the way
Speaker 2: and then late in the game, right Cincinnati scores on
Speaker 2: what seven to the last eight drives, seven eight drives
Speaker 2: except the one where it's second and twenty. There's less
Speaker 2: than three minutes left. How do you lose Pat firemove
Speaker 2: who's been carving you up. How do you lose him
Speaker 2: for a sixty eight yard touchdown? That's inexplicable to me.
Speaker 5: Oh, you're right, you're right. You're not going to get
Speaker 5: an argument for me here. The defense was awful. I
Speaker 5: mean they were really bad for the majority of this game,
Speaker 5: and that is really unacceptable to give up that play.
Speaker 5: And really, you look at it, three touchdowns on four possessions.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to count the final seven seconds, even
Speaker 5: though they did have to make a play there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: this day one in spite of their defense, which is
Speaker 5: why you trade for Joe Flacker. You know, your offense
Speaker 5: has to carry you. You know this is a Jamar
Speaker 5: Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown lead team. And we saw
Speaker 5: it last night.
Speaker 2: I watched this sea. You have twenty plus years and
Speaker 2: we've seen the movie. It's like, now the Steelers go
Speaker 2: up late and you've got to be kidding me because
Speaker 2: they look so good down the stretch. We've seen this
Speaker 2: movie a thousand times, James Rapen, But you know what
Speaker 2: ten days ago, the guy who's wearing a Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: jersey a few hundred miles away, says, hold my insurer.
Speaker 3: And he leads a drive with Flood.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got plenty of time life, and I
Speaker 2: watch this guy just picked them apart, and t has
Speaker 2: this amazing selfless play at the end, and on that
Speaker 2: I will point a Tea. Gains finished with six touch
Speaker 2: of six catches for ninety six yards in the Tuddy
Speaker 2: he couldn't have gotten. He could have gotten to that
Speaker 2: hundred yard mark, but he slides a few yards shor
Speaker 2: to the goal line to literally seal the win.
Speaker 3: I mean that was awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. And there's and j Morrison actually had
Speaker 5: a great breakdown for us at bengalsbuck dot Com of
Speaker 5: this decision of T Higgins and Jamar Chase talking about
Speaker 5: what he did and what Jamar would have done in
Speaker 5: that spot, that Taylor learning from the past and how
Speaker 5: that influenced their decision to do what they did. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I think there are a lot of skill
Speaker 5: players in the league, Scott that even if their coach
Speaker 5: tells them to do that, naturally they just glide into
Speaker 5: the end zone there because they're by themselves and it
Speaker 5: would have been a really easy touchdown and they start dancing,
Speaker 5: and you have any doubt that Aaron Rodgers would have
Speaker 5: drove down the field either won the game or tied
Speaker 5: the game. And so, yeah, too much time, We've seen
Speaker 5: it too many times, and there just wasn't a complex
Speaker 5: level in this defense. And so you combine all of
Speaker 5: that with t Higgins's unselfishness, it's winning play, winning football,
Speaker 5: and that's what they need from their stars right now,
Speaker 5: and they got it last night.
Speaker 2: You know, we've been bashing on the offensive line so
Speaker 2: far this season, but you really have without Trey Henderson
Speaker 2: on the other side, which we'll get to in a second.
Speaker 2: So you know the talatoo lines here, but the offensive
Speaker 2: line in particular, Man, you got all the questions. You know,
Speaker 2: Brown and Marius Mims. I'll be honest with you. You
Speaker 2: got to give them credit. They played well enough to win.
Speaker 2: They played pretty good.
Speaker 5: They did, they did, and I think my mens taking
Speaker 5: away TJ. Watt from the majority of this game. I
Speaker 5: mean I forgot t J. Watt was on the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: It was almost like, oh, well, the Bengals are without
Speaker 5: Trey Henderson and they can't get pressure, but neither can
Speaker 5: t J Watt. And look when when that does happen
Speaker 5: against that Steelers front. They did get two sacks, but
Speaker 5: right when you're able to limit them from a pass
Speaker 5: rush stand point, even though you brought forty seven times,
Speaker 5: that's an offensive execution standpoint. J Joe Blacker's getting the
Speaker 5: ball out fast. But this offensive line deserves a ton
Speaker 5: of credit. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: And Dn Risinger on top of that, I mean, he
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't hear his name calls like man
Speaker 2: Valdon Riser.
Speaker 3: Dalton Riiser was a stud last night.
Speaker 5: He was, and that's what I saw because he's a
Speaker 5: guy that you could have talked about months and months ago,
Speaker 5: and they signed him ten days before the season, and
Speaker 5: then he gets tossed out there when Lugis Patrick gets
Speaker 5: hurt week one and week two, He's had seven practices
Speaker 5: under his belt and he's trying to hit you to it,
Speaker 5: and it's just it didn't look good. But the past
Speaker 5: two weeks have looked much better. And I think it's
Speaker 5: because he's got his football legs under him and he's
Speaker 5: in football shape and much more comfortable in the offense.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he's played really well. And the
Speaker 5: thing that we saw last night that we haven't seen
Speaker 5: all year long, his explosive runs. They were able to
Speaker 5: get Chase Brown going. Yep, they didn't run the ball
Speaker 5: at Ton, but eleven carries and you have a run
Speaker 5: thirty seven yards and another run of twenty eight yards.
Speaker 5: That is huge for this offensive run at dug for
Speaker 5: this offense.
Speaker 2: James the Rapine from sis bengalstock dot com and Lockdown
Speaker 2: Bengals Only Daily Bengals podcast.
Speaker 3: How do you explain that?
Speaker 2: Because so far heading into what week this week seven
Speaker 2: worst running team in the National Football League, they had
Speaker 2: only three hundred and forty yards on the ground. Chase
Speaker 2: is averaging less than three per causing two point seven
Speaker 2: per carry. Last night it was almost ten yards per carry.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 5: I wish, I wish, I wish I knew, Like what
Speaker 5: the key is? I mean, I think one they gave
Speaker 5: Chase daylight, Like they were able to give him holes
Speaker 5: that he could run through and not get hit. I mean,
Speaker 5: we've seen so many times this year he's getting hit
Speaker 5: or having to cut or having to stop and start
Speaker 5: right as he gets the football, and that's just that's
Speaker 5: never going to work. So for them to be the
Speaker 5: aggressor to be physical, to out physical the Steelers, that's
Speaker 5: not something that we're used to seeing. Right the out
Speaker 5: physical the Steelers. Well, they did, and it was able
Speaker 5: to get Chase Brown up in space some I jp
Speaker 5: Ryan had multiple good runs and when you do that,
Speaker 5: then it gives one It gives your offense an easy
Speaker 5: button at times, it gives Joe Flacco options too. It
Speaker 5: just keeps him upright and clean. So even though you're
Speaker 5: throwing it forty seven times, it doesn't feel it that
Speaker 5: way because you've had some big runs on the ground.
Speaker 5: I mean, their biggest plays got weren't just passing plays,
Speaker 5: and that's rare for this Bengals team. They had the
Speaker 5: thirty eight yarder Andrea Higgins's long touchdowns, but they had
Speaker 5: multiple big plays on the ground as well, which goes
Speaker 5: a long way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were some holes too. I mean he
Speaker 2: was he was hitting the seam and the line was
Speaker 2: moving guys out of the way and a way we
Speaker 2: haven't seen in weeks all the season out dare.
Speaker 5: I say on the on the season, You're right, I
Speaker 5: mean his longest run entering last night's game was thirteen
Speaker 5: yards and that happened five days ago in Green Bay.
Speaker 5: I mean, it has been a a bad running team.
Speaker 5: And one thing I do want to point out, and
Speaker 5: it was kind of kind of the theme of the
Speaker 5: night as far as getting off to the clow start.
Speaker 5: Chase Brown had a huge drop early in this game.
Speaker 5: That would have been a twenty plus yard game. Jamar
Speaker 5: Chase had a few drops early. Andre Yo. All these
Speaker 5: guys rebounded to make huge, huge plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the conference came back. I saw Yoshi
Speaker 2: dropped upon my cod damn. And then he hit that
Speaker 2: When it went down in the middle, I'm like, who, look,
Speaker 2: he's thrown it to I saw eighty.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh lord, please just catch the ball. And
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 2: You know, they I think they shook the cobwebs out,
Speaker 2: like hey, you know what, we can win this thing.
Speaker 2: They started buying in and what Flacco was doing, and
Speaker 2: you know, back to Joe Flacco, just that steady, calm presence.
Speaker 2: We mentioned that drive at the end of the game,
Speaker 2: you know, scripted out. You don't rattle the guy. He's
Speaker 2: just simply unflappable. And you look at this. I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the story of the week in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and if he keeps it up, it's going to be
Speaker 2: the Darling story of the year. Thirty one forty seven,
Speaker 2: three hundred forty two yards, three touchdowns, no picks. He's
Speaker 2: now amassed in his two games here unless than what
Speaker 2: today's day ten. I think of the Joe Flacco era. Uh,
Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty one yards, five touchdowns, no picks
Speaker 2: and a one hundred quarterback rating. That's not that's not
Speaker 2: just like keeping the lights on until the other Joe
Speaker 2: gets back.
Speaker 3: That's like playoff caliber football.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's not keeping the lights on right now.
Speaker 5: He's powering the whole damn house. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 5: the why you know, he's the why you believe, the
Speaker 5: why you you think that this offense or this team
Speaker 5: is capable of keeping a float and staying afloat without
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and maybe even making a run. And I
Speaker 5: think that's the significance of last night's win. How they
Speaker 5: did it with this offense, utilizing their best players, finding
Speaker 5: away against the first place team in the division. It's
Speaker 5: to me, at least right now, pretty easy to buy
Speaker 5: into this team hanging around and being there at the
Speaker 5: end because they were able to handle business against the
Speaker 5: Steelers team that gave them fitch in a lot of ways,
Speaker 5: and still they found a way to win with a
Speaker 5: guy who had literally his first practice was eight days
Speaker 5: before that game last night, and for him to play
Speaker 5: two games and throw for five to sixty one, five touchdowns,
Speaker 5: no picks in these past two games, it's really remarkable.
Speaker 2: I suppose to Dan Hordy yesterday and I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I know you're going to say no, but it feels
Speaker 2: like I must win yesterday. He said, of course not,
Speaker 2: because you know, Steeler schedules is gonna get a lot harder,
Speaker 2: Arts gets a lot easier, and you beat a division up,
Speaker 2: but it's a division upon it.
Speaker 3: You fall three games back.
Speaker 2: Man, you're doing the calculus on that going now you're
Speaker 2: expecting other teams to lose, and we need these days
Speaker 2: you can kind of start to control your own dustiny.
Speaker 2: I mean, three and four is nothing right home about,
Speaker 2: but you're right there, especially in this division where it
Speaker 2: feels like nine's going to win it. But now the
Speaker 2: margins get really really thin, and you know, we talked
Speaker 2: about the great performance by one line, but the other
Speaker 2: line of the pass rush was non existent. Forty one
Speaker 2: year old Aaron Rodgers had all day to throw the ball. Now,
Speaker 2: I know you didn't have Trey in there, you had
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart coming back from injury, but still you expected
Speaker 2: better from that pass rush and just didn't get a
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 5: No you didn't. You didn't defense major disappointment. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm surprised that they weren't out outside of the turnovers,
Speaker 5: able to get a stop here or there. Right, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's not a great Steelers offense. They're they're fine, and
Speaker 5: they were able to limit dk metcast. And so if
Speaker 5: you say, all right, we're going to limit dk metcast,
Speaker 5: well you should be good. The problem is Jamin Warren
Speaker 5: is still probably breaking tackles right now, and huge game
Speaker 5: for the Steelers, and then Pat Pryers really got going late.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you just you can't give a quarterback like
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers that much time. When you do, and you
Speaker 5: give him a running game, it's going to be really,
Speaker 5: really tough to stop any offense. And so they have
Speaker 5: to figure that out regardless of Trey. And obviously you
Speaker 5: need Trey back, but if you don't have Trey, you
Speaker 5: still got to be able to find ways to get pressure.
Speaker 5: They didn't last night. The good news it's gotten. The
Speaker 5: one nice thing I can say about the defense is
Speaker 5: they did force those two turnovers that helped flip the
Speaker 5: momentum and put the Bengals in position to take control
Speaker 5: of the game late in the second quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't overshadow what was a spectacor when last
Speaker 2: night thirty three thirty one at Paycorps, the stadium looked great.
Speaker 3: You know, the white out worked.
Speaker 2: Unlike the last game where it was looked like an
Speaker 2: FC home game with the lines, jerseys and stuff. This
Speaker 2: was legit and the Bengals were able to hold on
Speaker 2: and pull this thing out. And now they've got momentum.
Speaker 2: And you got maybe a little chip on your shoulder
Speaker 2: here too, because you start looking at the schedulext up
Speaker 2: of the Jets and they're terrible. Now, you can't play
Speaker 2: down obviously, but man, you have some confidences and thinking
Speaker 2: they can turn this into a multiple game win streak.
Speaker 5: Now, yes, I agree with that, and it's it's kind
Speaker 5: of wild to think in these terms, but this kind
Speaker 5: of shows you how Joe Flacco, his post Baltimore run
Speaker 5: has gone. I attended a Bengals Jets game where Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco was getting food and told to put him on
Speaker 5: the bench and all of the things, all of the above,
Speaker 5: and so for that to turn into what could be
Speaker 5: a huge revenge game that this is the Bengals back
Speaker 5: to five hundred, right, I think they're they're in good position.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I agree with you Dan Hord
Speaker 5: hates the term must win, but it was a must win.
Speaker 5: They couldn't have felled a two and five and realistically
Speaker 5: talked the playoffs. So it was a huge win for
Speaker 5: the bang.
Speaker 2: I love how Cleveland set this whole thing up and
Speaker 2: even though they can't win, like hand of the hand
Speaker 2: grenade to us as they're dying, and it said, here
Speaker 2: you bomb.
Speaker 3: And that's what we did, right.
Speaker 2: We fragged the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and they
Speaker 2: making meet those words about why the hell are you?
Speaker 3: That's that's why.
Speaker 5: Uhland wants to send Cincinnati. Is a little mild garrett too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we could use that, why not. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: take there. We'll take a lot of the guys on
Speaker 2: defunse straight up. He is James rapineover at Bengals Talk
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Speaker 2: best answer to and I heard, by the way, during
Speaker 2: the Amazon Prime pregame show. I heard your voice multiple
Speaker 2: times in the setup from Cincinnati. So you got a
Speaker 2: little national play last night?
Speaker 5: How about that from me and mo On? I thought
Speaker 5: it was crazy.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool, James, all the best, buddy, Thanks for
Speaker 2: getting up.
Speaker 5: Thanks appreciation, all the best.
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Speaker 2: Here we Go Scott's Loo on Friday morning, seven hundred W. Lwedy,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the weekend. Just abouts and kind of jokingly,
Speaker 2: I was talking to James Rpeen on the big Bengals
Speaker 2: win last night. If you went down to Paker, what
Speaker 2: a beautiful night. Weather was great on TV if you
Speaker 2: watch it on Prime like I did, look great with
Speaker 2: whiteout the field look fantastic. The uniforms are just the
Speaker 2: best in the NFL. I think there. I think those alternates,
Speaker 2: those the white and black stripes. The white strip's fantastic,
Speaker 2: and we look so good. And fortunately we walk out
Speaker 2: of there with a win, because I think if the
Speaker 2: Bengals had lost, we'd be They're out of it, they're
Speaker 2: done whatever. And then we're back to the tired story
Speaker 2: of homicides downtown, which we talk about, you know, four
Speaker 2: days a week here on the show. In the station.
Speaker 2: Others are going to talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2: There's only so much of that news you can hear,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's important. It's important talk about police
Speaker 2: chief and going to happen in the future. And we
Speaker 2: get this election coming up and will things change? And
Speaker 2: you know, even if you're tired of hearing about I
Speaker 2: think we all recognize and realize, even if you don't
Speaker 2: live in Cincinnati, which is most people listening, the fact
Speaker 2: of the matter remains that that is the heartbeat of our community.
Speaker 2: And if you have shootings and death in Mayhem on
Speaker 2: Fountain Square, which is the epicenter of our region, it's
Speaker 2: just going to continue to deteriorate the city. No one's
Speaker 2: going to want to come down and we're going to
Speaker 2: go back to the way we were in the early
Speaker 2: two thousands, which if you're around back then, there was
Speaker 2: nothing going on down there. I mean literally nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: the sidewalks were rolled up. There's nothing happened. There may
Speaker 2: be one or two bars down there.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 2: There was nothing worthwhile going down downtown. We had this
Speaker 2: huge renaissance, and here we are, and it feels like
Speaker 2: a lot of these bozos are are forces to go
Speaker 2: back in time, because that's how this all begins. And
Speaker 2: I see the street criminal bozos for sure, but our leadership,
Speaker 2: or alleged leadership are like thereof So last night, and
Speaker 2: had the Bengals lost, we'd probably be talking more about
Speaker 2: the fatal shooting last night outside of bar downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: I think it was I want to say, so that's
Speaker 2: Sycamore and Third, So that's what near the in between
Speaker 2: there in between Around two am, I thought, okay, well
Speaker 2: the game was over. I went to bed like right
Speaker 2: around eleven o'clock, kind of late. And maybe you're hanging
Speaker 2: around at the game and having a couple drinks after whatever,
Speaker 2: and so, but there's still plenty of people around at
Speaker 2: two am, and the victim is a man in his
Speaker 2: late twenties early thirties found dead inside a BMW has
Speaker 2: pronounced that the scene somebody rolled up and fired a
Speaker 2: bunch of shots in and then they took off. But again,
Speaker 2: we have the sociopaths out there that simply don't care that. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, there's there's families out there, there's young
Speaker 2: kids out there at that time of night simply because
Speaker 2: of Thursday night football. And this is because you have
Speaker 2: some stupid beef. It's all about you. The world revolves
Speaker 2: are on you. Yeah, I don't care. You can blame
Speaker 2: Terry Thigi and fire her all you want. That's not
Speaker 2: on her.
Speaker 3: She is just you know, we talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 7: She is just.
Speaker 3: On what's going on my phone here.
Speaker 2: She's basically just a figure. You ain't getting caught up
Speaker 2: in the middle of this whole thing. Could she do
Speaker 2: things better? Something's better?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Could stuntings be worse? I suppose, But that's not the problem.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The problem starts at the top when you have this
Speaker 2: progressive priorities about what we want our community to be
Speaker 2: relative to those people are committing crimes that every criminal
Speaker 2: out there is somehow a victim, and I think race
Speaker 2: is a huge component, you know, talk about racism and
Speaker 2: this stuff with you know, Representative Dave's young office with
Speaker 2: you know, with the swastik and things like that. But
Speaker 2: and we'll get to that and do time next week
Speaker 2: because that's still developing, which is scary. But the fact
Speaker 2: that matter range is Okay. We can talk about white
Speaker 2: racism young Republican racist, absolutely, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: like you know, the notion that somehow black people can't
Speaker 2: be racist, I think there's a lot of racism happening
Speaker 2: within the people who are anti racist and they just
Speaker 2: don't see it though, And I pointed people like Iris
Speaker 2: Rawley and the way she handles police officers, said, every
Speaker 2: single person of color who has stopped, even if there's
Speaker 2: a worn out for their rest, is somehow a victim
Speaker 2: in an unjust system. And when that is your worldview,
Speaker 2: how is that anymore or less racist than what we're
Speaker 2: talking about with what's happening with young Republicans who are
Speaker 2: in I guess in their on their communications between each other,
Speaker 2: How is that anymore or less You're influencing public policy
Speaker 2: now and I think there's a huge component of this.
Speaker 3: Something happened. I think last week I didn't get a
Speaker 3: chance to get to it.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do it for Monday, because again, Friday morning,
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into this other than the
Speaker 2: fact that, you know, we had another fatal shooting last
Speaker 2: night and literally putting a stain on the wind last
Speaker 2: night in Cincinnati. I don't want to say that. You know,
Speaker 2: the Bengals win is bigger than someone getting shot to death.
Speaker 2: But we've had a steady drumbeat of that kind of
Speaker 2: mayhem happening at our city center. And I know we're
Speaker 2: all tired. I'm tired of talking about it, You're tired
Speaker 2: about hearing it, We're tired about living it. Everyone's just
Speaker 2: tired and exhausted. And so it feels good to talk
Speaker 2: about the Bengals beating our arch rivals, or one of
Speaker 2: our art rivals anyway, with the help of another arch rival,
Speaker 2: which is the story. And I want overshadow that because
Speaker 2: we really need on this Friday morning, damn it, we
Speaker 2: need something to celebrate for real, so there'll be more
Speaker 2: of time to talk about that. Another death last night downtown,
Speaker 2: more gunplay, should that cost the chief a job, I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I think it is the policies that
Speaker 2: were established enforced by the chief, but those policies were
Speaker 2: not set by her.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You got to go to the top for this thing.
Speaker 2: And it's the guy who wants to be re elected
Speaker 2: coming up in just a few short weeks. And of
Speaker 2: course members of Consul will enable that behavior as well.
Speaker 2: And I think AFTAB is going to win, but I
Speaker 2: think a lot of numbers of council are going to
Speaker 2: be showing the door. We're not sure who, but that's
Speaker 2: going to be interesting as well, because we've got like
Speaker 2: twenty people running for those seats. We'll get to that
Speaker 2: probably pick it back up again Monday. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to point that out. We
Speaker 2: did have a fatality downtown last night, another shooting, another
Speaker 2: steady drum beat of that, but it shouldn't overshadow the
Speaker 2: fact that, hey, listen, we need to pimp, pump the brakes.
Speaker 2: It's Friday morning. Lighten it up a little bit, and
Speaker 2: we can pick this back up again Monday, and safe
Speaker 2: to say Monday, there probably at this rate will be
Speaker 2: more shootings Downtown News on the way in just a
Speaker 2: few minutes. Mike Debiski is here from ABC New York.
Speaker 2: He's running a little late, so he begs, are indulgence there,
Speaker 2: we'll catch up. We got some movies out this week.
Speaker 2: I know Tron hit last week seems to be fading.
Speaker 2: New Ethan Hawke and Julia Roberts movie out as well too,
Speaker 2: in payning homage to a rock and roll legend. Next
Speaker 2: on The Scots Long Show, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: WL L L year.
Speaker 3: We've made our connections.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: Mike Debuski is here from ABC News in New York.
Speaker 2: He helps cover entertainment for US. Mike, good morning, How
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. A'ce Freeley dying at seventy two seventy four?
Speaker 3: What did I see yesterday?
Speaker 2: I just wanted to note that for the Kiss fans
Speaker 2: out there and part of my generation indeed, But I
Speaker 2: think he tripped in a studio and had a brain bleed.
Speaker 3: Which is scary.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, definitely, and the rock world is mourning that
Speaker 8: in a pretty big way obviously, Kiss, you know, known
Speaker 8: for countless hits and their distinctive visual style. Yeah, Ace
Speaker 8: freely passing away in a very sudden and tragic way,
Speaker 8: Big New York guy, where you are too back in
Speaker 8: the New York groove.
Speaker 5: So to speak.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, let's talk movie related stuff.
Speaker 3: I know Tron was supposed to be. Tron was a
Speaker 3: big one last weekend? Did that carry over this week?
Speaker 5: How?
Speaker 3: It too?
Speaker 8: Not particularly well, falling about ten million dollars short of
Speaker 8: what analysts had been expecting during its opening weekend last weekend. This,
Speaker 8: of course is the big sci fi epic from Disney,
Speaker 8: Jared leto Greta Lee starring in this, but you know,
Speaker 8: really just failed to connect with the movie going public
Speaker 8: in a really big way. Disney has not really done
Speaker 8: a consistent Tron franchise. The original movie obviously came back
Speaker 8: came out in the early eighties starring Jeff Bridges, and
Speaker 8: then they followed that up in twenty ten with Tron Legacy.
Speaker 8: That was a pretty modest hit, making aboutour hundred million
Speaker 8: dollars or so globally when all was said and done.
Speaker 8: But yeah, coming back to the franchise now fifteen years
Speaker 8: later did not seem to connect. I think something that's
Speaker 8: going to be interesting this weekend as Tron enters its
Speaker 8: second weekend of release is to see if it stays
Speaker 8: at the top of the weekend box office. We're kind
Speaker 8: of in an interesting, sort of softer period for the
Speaker 8: box office right now, not you know, a defined hit
Speaker 8: coming down the line until a little bit later into November.
Speaker 8: So will tron win again this weekend or will it
Speaker 8: be a newcomer something like The Black Phone two.
Speaker 7: This is a horror movie that's new this weekend.
Speaker 8: Starts Ethan hawk At, the follow up to the twenty
Speaker 8: twenty one film The Black Phone.
Speaker 7: And it's a you know, an adult film.
Speaker 8: It's not going to necessarily bring in a ton of
Speaker 8: you know, young kids or anything like that. But the
Speaker 8: first Black Phone was a pretty successful film on a
Speaker 8: pretty modest budget, and it was able to you know,
Speaker 8: raake in about twenty three million dollars or so back
Speaker 8: in twenty one, when you know, theaters were still reeling
Speaker 8: from the COVID nineteen pandemic. For what it's worth, black
Speaker 8: Phone two tracking for about twenty five to third million
Speaker 8: dollars in its opening weekends. That would be enough to
Speaker 8: knock tron Arias down to the number two slot.
Speaker 2: All right, and plus saying, you know, we've got Halloween
Speaker 2: coming up, so good time to roll out a even
Speaker 2: if it is a.
Speaker 8: Sequel exactly exactly, And this is very much leaning into
Speaker 8: some of the classic Halloween themes, right you know. This
Speaker 8: is a movie where the serial killer known as the Grabber,
Speaker 8: he wears that very scary mask in the first movie.
Speaker 8: He comes back in the dream of some of the
Speaker 8: characters in this new movie. So heavily influenced by the
Speaker 8: Nightmare on Elm Street franchise and Freddy Krueger of it All,
Speaker 8: but also kind of the works of Stephen King. This
Speaker 8: is set in the early nineteen eighties, kind of has
Speaker 8: a very Stephen King kind of aesthetic to it in
Speaker 8: the filmmaking and in the image crafting. So it's something
Speaker 8: to keep an eye out for. And it comes from Blumhouse,
Speaker 8: which is a sort of well known and well liked
Speaker 8: horror studio. Their strategy has always been to go wide
Speaker 8: and go cheap right, make a lot of stuff on
Speaker 8: a modest budget, and see if any hits. They have
Speaker 8: been able to ride that strategy to success with really
Speaker 8: big hits like get Out and the New Halloween franchise,
Speaker 8: the Perge franchise as well, but this year they've kind
Speaker 8: of been a little softer than maybe they would have
Speaker 8: wanted with movies like Megan two point zero and you
Speaker 8: know other films including you know, things like The Wolfman
Speaker 8: and The Woman in the Yard. They kind of fell
Speaker 8: short of expectations, so they're looking for a hit this weekend.
Speaker 2: All right, Black Phone too. I did see the trailer.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. Julia Robert
Speaker 2: Tander Garfield. After the Hunt?
Speaker 7: What is that? Yeah?
Speaker 8: After the Hunt is a new movie from Luca Guadanino,
Speaker 8: who has been working really hard the last few years.
Speaker 8: He's been putting out two or three movies a year.
Speaker 8: Last year was Challengers, which was that kind of very
Speaker 8: sensual tennis movie that starts Zenda. Also Queer, which is
Speaker 8: based on the Augustins Burrows novel you know that starred Daniel.
Speaker 7: Craig as well.
Speaker 8: Now he's following it up with a college campus drama
Speaker 8: where Julia Roberts and Andrew Garfield play college professors who
Speaker 8: are up for ten yere one ten year splot and
Speaker 8: one of their students played by Io Edabierri from The Bear,
Speaker 8: comes forward and accuses Andrew Garfield of sexual assault, and
Speaker 8: it gets into the he said, she said, who do
Speaker 8: you believe? What are these relationships really at the end
Speaker 8: of the day, kind of campus politics of it all.
Speaker 8: People who've got a chance to see it early left
Speaker 8: very divided on this movie. They either loved it or
Speaker 8: they hated it. A lot of people really do seem
Speaker 8: to hate it. However, I was able to see it early,
Speaker 8: and I walked away kind of impressed. It is not
Speaker 8: a movie that leaves you with any easy answers by
Speaker 8: any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 7: But I also think it's.
Speaker 8: A topic that is very nuanced and requires you to
Speaker 8: ask a lot of questions of it.
Speaker 7: So maybe not the.
Speaker 8: Most satisfying movie going experience if you're just looking for
Speaker 8: a kind of good time at the movies.
Speaker 7: But it's definitely one to chew on after the Hunt.
Speaker 8: And it's you know, scored by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross,
Speaker 8: who of course have scored movies like The Social Network. Also, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, one of them went on to score tron Aris,
Speaker 8: so the score is pretty good as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine, I was making the making a run here
Speaker 2: the Hollywood the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: That's the reason to go see trot Aries I'll be honest,
Speaker 8: it's pretty hard.
Speaker 3: That's good raging out with nine inch nails.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Small screen stuff I did get into because I've been
Speaker 2: nursing my ankle surgery and so having a lot of
Speaker 2: time to watch us started getting The Black Rabbit on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman, Jude Law and it's that is a slow burn,
Speaker 2: Like you watched it first episode, like I don't know.
Speaker 2: My wife left, She's like, this is stupid. I gave
Speaker 2: it a couple episodes. It picked up really well. So
Speaker 2: if you're looking for something on the small screen, you
Speaker 2: may want to get on. It's not like the best
Speaker 2: Jason Jason. There's there's some elements of Ozark to it,
Speaker 2: but it's so bad.
Speaker 3: It's not bad.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I haven't had a chance to see that yet,
Speaker 8: but I've heard pretty good reviews.
Speaker 7: Again, a slow burn.
Speaker 8: You know, this is a thing that this prestige TV
Speaker 8: era really does fall into where you ask yourself the question,
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, this is eight episodes. You know, maybe
Speaker 8: we build something really special by the end of the season,
Speaker 8: but would this have betten better as a movie? I
Speaker 8: think that's a question that a lot of these sort
Speaker 8: of short form you know, prestige series really do you
Speaker 8: ask themselves? But then again, you know, some things are
Speaker 8: made for TV. It sounds like this one is. It
Speaker 8: sounds like it is rewarding to spend time with these characters,
Speaker 8: Jude Law, Jason Bateman. Of course, always a pleasure to
Speaker 8: see them on screen. And it seems like a pretty
Speaker 8: twisty thriller set in the world of kind of high
Speaker 8: end dining in New York City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. At worth it if you're
Speaker 2: looking for some But again it's a slow play. It
Speaker 2: takes a while to get going. Mike Debuski in New
Speaker 2: York at Michael Lubuski, thanks for jumping in this morning
Speaker 2: with the entertainment stuff. Appreciate you. Yep, of course they
Speaker 2: have a great weekend, buddy. Thanks again. It's a Scottslan show.
Speaker 2: It's seven hundred WLW and play us out Ace Friley
Speaker 2: for a second here. Ace Frayley Dad at seventy four,
Speaker 2: original league guitarist of Kiss and he passed away because
Speaker 2: he was in the studio and fell down. I just
Speaker 2: think just a week or two ago and suffered a
Speaker 2: brain blee. And of course it's seventy four that's not
Speaker 2: too recoverable. And his family and friends were with him
Speaker 2: when he passed away. Founding member of Kiss with Gene Simmons,
Speaker 2: Peter Chris on drums, and Paul Stanley of course, and
Speaker 2: just absolutely shredded some of the most classic licks and
Speaker 2: rock and roll you heard from his guitar for more
Speaker 2: than a decade, about a decade right from seventy three
Speaker 2: to eighty two. He had some substance abuse problems, left
Speaker 2: the group creative issues of course, and then how much
Speaker 2: of that was the drugs talking, and he left and
Speaker 2: did some solo stuff. Freyley's comment back in the New
Speaker 2: York Groove was a good jam and of course came
Speaker 2: back together with Kiss and even got putting rock and
Speaker 2: rode Hard of fame in twenty fourteen. That's but Ace
Speaker 2: Frayley passing away at the nintetwenty four So the quarter
Speaker 2: of the original Kiss and a Kiss army has left
Speaker 2: the room, left the big stadium in the sky, so
Speaker 2: to speak. We'll get the news update in here momentarily,
Speaker 2: and then returned at the ten o six cuts and
Speaker 2: the stuff happening in and around Cincinnati A little bit
Speaker 2: lighter on this Friday morning.
Speaker 3: I know the big story today, of course, involved death.
Speaker 2: Mayhemmond destruction outside of the Bengals destroying the Steelers.
Speaker 5: And I love the.
Speaker 3: Fact that Cleveland right now is laughing.
Speaker 2: It was like the dying comrade hitting us the live
Speaker 2: grenade we tossed with the enemy at the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 2: last night, giving us Joe Flacco exet coach Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: and the Steelers off yesterday or two days ago, as
Speaker 2: I guess I should say, he was upset because why
Speaker 2: would you trade why would you do this.
Speaker 3: Into a division team to screw Pittsburgh?
Speaker 2: So Mac like Cleveland with Cleveland, Cincinnati, the Ohio Bros
Speaker 2: keeping it real and going okay, our season is lost
Speaker 2: yet again in Cleveland. If you guys still kind of
Speaker 2: you have a chance. Burrow may comeback and we'll give
Speaker 2: you Joe Flacco for a song. Just please please feed
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and the Bengals pulled them off last night at
Speaker 2: Take or Love It. You wonder what Mike Tomlin was
Speaker 2: thinking of that long walk from the visitors locker room,
Speaker 2: the cold shower out to the nighttime, the air walking
Speaker 2: on that bus.
Speaker 3: What the hell was going for?
Speaker 9: Mac?
Speaker 2: Tomin Tech. I think it was fantastic. Thank you Cleveland.
Speaker 2: We ow Cleveland a debt of gratitude. This morning show
Speaker 2: I got about it. It's a Scott's Loan show. This
Speaker 2: is the home of the best Bengals coverage seven hundred
Speaker 2: WW since anat Friday morning, slowly back with you on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW savoring and the delicious tiredness of a
Speaker 2: who Day win, which is the opposite we've had in
Speaker 2: the past and Friday mornings. I like to talk about
Speaker 2: a variety of different things and not all newsy or
Speaker 2: I should say bad news. He related some of the
Speaker 2: good news out there, believe it or not, despite what
Speaker 2: we've been talking about, including last night's shooting, and that
Speaker 2: would be this. We're making progress in a lot of areas.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: We talked about the Duke Energy Convention Center going back
Speaker 2: online and that's going to reopen, and the hotel is
Speaker 2: about to be started as well, and then you talk about, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe a new arena, and of course the Brent Spence
Speaker 2: Bridge project is just about to be in full swing.
Speaker 2: It'll be orange barrel hell for a few years, but
Speaker 2: the end result is worth it. No more traffic jams
Speaker 2: and mayhem over the Ohio River. But to do all
Speaker 2: those things you did and you still need and in
Speaker 2: the future will need bodies to do it. And of
Speaker 2: course one of my causes here on the show is
Speaker 2: construction trades. I'm a I'm a sick of fan for
Speaker 2: it because I realized that not everyone should go to school.
Speaker 2: I was one of those people, you know, but I
Speaker 2: got in back in the day when nell you needed
Speaker 2: was a check and a number two pencil, And today
Speaker 2: it's a lot harder. The stakes are much higher, and
Speaker 2: we know people are going to the debt and now
Speaker 2: they're looking for the government and US taxpayer to bail
Speaker 2: them out because the model is broken.
Speaker 3: So what about the trades?
Speaker 2: Don't we understand we're making some inroads here locally, but
Speaker 2: at the same time, there's so much more to do.
Speaker 2: And on that is John strawser my buddy John Strasser,
Speaker 2: former CEO of Valley Interior Systems and Spirit of Construction
Speaker 2: fellow board member for a long time. He's been doing
Speaker 2: it since two thousand and three, and Amanda Smith is
Speaker 2: the executive director of the Spirit of Construction Foundation. Welcome, guys,
Speaker 2: how are you? How's everybody Amanda, welcome in whoday, Baby,
Speaker 2: who day? I got a Mana's Mike on Dave?
Speaker 5: Is that it is that?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 7: Hi?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's technology. We have no idea
Speaker 2: what we're doing over here at l W. We have
Speaker 2: no idea. We're really bad at it. We're in communications business.
Speaker 2: How are you doing? We're not very good at it.
Speaker 2: Good to have you guys. How's everything, John? I know
Speaker 2: you're at the game last night?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well worth the late evening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha. And it was fun to watch on TV,
Speaker 2: so I got to bed before you did. But anyway,
Speaker 2: let's start with the need. First of all, I know
Speaker 2: that we've made progress, and I'll start with you in
Speaker 2: this genre real quick, and then we may progress in
Speaker 2: getting people in the trades are starting to but there's
Speaker 2: still a lot more to be done.
Speaker 10: Right, there's a lot to be done with the retirement
Speaker 10: age coming down a little bit in the trades and
Speaker 10: the shorte of people getting interested in the trades. Last
Speaker 10: check I saw was we're sure about a million trades
Speaker 10: people across the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and a number continues to grow despite younger
Speaker 2: people going, hey, I want to get into the trades
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: I brought that opportune in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Is that you know, we hear about, hey, there's no
Speaker 2: job opportunity, there's no opportunity for and what do you
Speaker 2: expect when kids are going to go in the street
Speaker 2: and try to hustle make money. We see these shootings
Speaker 2: and it's all related stupid beefs, and they're not working
Speaker 2: and they're getting off the bus. And we've got all
Speaker 2: these job we're building the bridge right now about to
Speaker 2: embark on this great You're gonna need thousands of jobs
Speaker 2: out there. I mean, I've said this before to the
Speaker 2: influence of decision makers and the shit stakeholders are going, well,
Speaker 2: we just need more job.
Speaker 3: There's jobs right that.
Speaker 2: Literally, you guys will train people and put them to
Speaker 2: work the same day, won't you.
Speaker 5: We will.
Speaker 10: And we're actually starting in the fifth grade to start
Speaker 10: see kids through the trades, through some of the curriculum
Speaker 10: we're dealing with, and we're getting exposed to educated towards
Speaker 10: and trained to have a job, a job ready come
Speaker 10: senior year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's no outline either. It's like we hook
Speaker 2: you up with the tools, we get to the training,
Speaker 2: we've shown the job you're making money. My nephew who
Speaker 2: moved here from Oregon is is going to iced to
Speaker 2: be an electrician, and so he works during the day
Speaker 2: and then a night or two a week they send
Speaker 2: him to school to learn how to become an electrician.
Speaker 2: He doesn't pay for anything, he's making money along the way.
Speaker 2: And there's so many of those opportunities out there. Heating, ventilating,
Speaker 2: air conditioning. Work with my guys, the grimmy group, same thing.
Speaker 2: They do classes there to teach people with daycon how
Speaker 2: to do AC and within eight weeks they're on the job.
Speaker 2: They're making money. Plenty opportunities like that in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of hearing about there's no opportunity.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the opportunities are you name the trade, plumbers, electricians,
Speaker 10: mechanical painters, finishers. I mean, everybody needs workers right now.
Speaker 10: And the push to get the kids exposed is making
Speaker 10: making a big difference.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, let's turn to the Spirit of Construction Foundation, Amanda,
Speaker 2: where you come in, where we came in to try
Speaker 2: and bridge that app with scholarships and learning and getting
Speaker 2: programs and schols. Let's start with that. I know when
Speaker 2: I was a board member with John. I know, the
Speaker 2: big thing was, hey, we got in a woodward. You know,
Speaker 2: we got shopped through the class back. But that's grown
Speaker 2: beyond that, right absolutely.
Speaker 11: So the Spirit of Construction was started back in nineteen
Speaker 11: ninety six as a way to recognize and celebrate the
Speaker 11: construction industry, and that was initially done through our annual
Speaker 11: Gay Law and John here actually is one of our
Speaker 11: Lifetime Achievemental Ward winners this year. So every year at
Speaker 11: the annual Gala, we give out a Lifetime Achievement Award.
Speaker 11: What makes John's award so special this year is that
Speaker 11: his dad also won the Lifetime Achievement War back in
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety nine, so he's actually a second generation lifetime honorees.
Speaker 11: So we're very excited to celebrate John at our gala
Speaker 11: this year.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is John's old John.
Speaker 12: I'm saying John's a big deal, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: John's amazing ding his ego. He knows, we know what
Speaker 12: he's done. But it just means you're It's just a
Speaker 12: nice way of saying, damn, you're old or a buffaloed
Speaker 12: a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Now, no one's more deserving because because honestly working alongside
Speaker 2: you for a few years and just watching you the machine.
Speaker 2: That's the chance. I mean he really, John's the guy
Speaker 2: who really drove this whole thing. And that's it's really
Speaker 2: cool to see and it's a well deserved So congratulations.
Speaker 1: So we're excited.
Speaker 11: So what started out as having an annual gala has
Speaker 11: grown into what it is today. And so beyond the Gala,
Speaker 11: which is our major fundraiser, all net pro seeds from
Speaker 11: that gala go to three buckets of work that we
Speaker 11: invest in, scholarships, workforce development, and we give out mini
Speaker 11: grants to nonprofits focused on workforce development within the construction industry, right.
Speaker 2: And those grants are nice because you look at the
Speaker 2: organizations and that benefit from that is you know, it's
Speaker 2: girls Scouts. So you go through the list here of
Speaker 2: organizations that get that and go, hey, we're putting these
Speaker 2: programs in. We're doing summer school, like a class where
Speaker 2: kids can do hands on building stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: use power tools from Milwaukee and you know, drill holes
Speaker 2: and boards and see how buildings are put together. And
Speaker 2: when you have the house, a hands on kid right
Speaker 2: as the more tactile than than just sitting there and
Speaker 2: wrote memorization. Had you done that for me, I think
Speaker 2: I would be I would have been in the trades.
Speaker 2: And I've been doing this, which a lot of people
Speaker 2: listening and say, well, I really wish we could do
Speaker 2: that in the tough way back machine. But some of
Speaker 2: us learn just by looking at it. And we're finally
Speaker 2: doing that. We're finally learning how to teach and reach
Speaker 2: these kids. And you wonder, John, how many kids over
Speaker 2: the years may have dropped out of school or said
Speaker 2: I I I, this isn't for me because we're just
Speaker 2: sitting there and it's the same way we all learned
Speaker 2: is here's a teacher, here's a white boarder, blackboard, You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to memorize this. Look in the book. It's
Speaker 2: all theory. You put the practical thing into it, the matter.
Speaker 2: This is why you need shot math, for example, which
Speaker 2: you helped get into schools. It's reaching so many kids
Speaker 2: whould fall into the cracks before. It's incredible.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're teaching kids how to take a tape measure
Speaker 10: and say half inch plus three quarters is one and
Speaker 10: a quarter. You and I understand that because we use
Speaker 10: a tape measure almost every day in the jobs and
Speaker 10: the trades were the work we're doing around our homes.
Speaker 10: And by getting the kids exposed to this, we think
Speaker 10: that it's close to fifty percent of every student in
Speaker 10: the classroom as a visual learner. Yeah, not a book learner.
Speaker 10: And the school system does not teach or focus on
Speaker 10: these kind of kids. And now that we're doing it,
Speaker 10: we're gaining the opportunity putting a tape measure in their hand.
Speaker 10: Their eyes are opening up, they're understanding, they're looking up
Speaker 10: into the sky at this and understanding that hey, science
Speaker 10: ties in with math, and now it's in their grades,
Speaker 10: are accelerating their attending class and it's making a difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like algebra, I don't know numbers and letters, why
Speaker 2: do they need to go together? But you know, you
Speaker 2: start doing calculations, you start doing like your roof, slopes
Speaker 2: and stairs, and it's like, oh, I get it. Now
Speaker 2: this is where it's applicable in the real world. And
Speaker 2: there was never that connection we're going to school and
Speaker 2: now there is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's making a big difference. In the end,
Speaker 10: we're seeing kids come into the trades now with a
Speaker 10: direct impact. Now it takes time. I mean when you
Speaker 10: start teaching in fifth grade, you know you've got a
Speaker 10: seven year process to get them through where they become
Speaker 10: the correct dation to being hired. But we're now, after
Speaker 10: the years of work we put in, we're starting to
Speaker 10: have kids now make that jump to the trades.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, it's a man A Smith, the executive director of
Speaker 2: Spiritual Construction Foundation, and John Strasser, the former CEO of
Speaker 2: Valley Interiors here in Cincinnati, but they're all over the state.
Speaker 2: A board member there since two thousand and three, and
Speaker 2: he's going to be an honoree this year at the gala,
Speaker 2: which is coming up on the twenty.
Speaker 11: Fifth, Right, that's right next Saturday, full house, full house,
Speaker 11: record number thirteen hundred folks done at the Northern Kentucky
Speaker 11: Convention Center. Next year is our thirtieth annual gala, so we're.
Speaker 3: Excited about that.
Speaker 11: But all proceeds from the gala actually are reinvested as
Speaker 11: a foundation. We are a funder and we reinvest those
Speaker 11: dollars back into workforce development within the trades in construction.
Speaker 2: Part of those scholarships you have went int like like
Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand dollars of the years in scholarships.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 11: So we've been doing scholarships since two thousand and four.
Speaker 11: We started by giving out scholarships at University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 11: This year alone, we gave out twenty five scholarships seventy
Speaker 11: eight thousand dollars and those scholarships are first students at
Speaker 11: NKU and UC that are looking at construction management Cincinnati
Speaker 11: State as well. And then we also give scholarships to
Speaker 11: military veterans that are looking at getting into construction. And
Speaker 11: for the first time ever this year we gave out
Speaker 11: skilled trade scholarships, so that's anyone that's interested in getting
Speaker 11: enrolled or as an incentive to keep them enrolled in
Speaker 11: skilled trades. So we're really proud of our scholarship program.
Speaker 11: Since two thousand and four, we've given out two hundred
Speaker 11: and seventy eight scholarships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's cool now because you get people fighting
Speaker 2: for the scholarship and saying, hey, we're doing this this
Speaker 2: and it's not a being war, but you know, you
Speaker 2: want to see where the best bank of the bucket's
Speaker 2: going to be. But it makes all those entities be
Speaker 2: sharp at what they're doing. Their focus, of course, is
Speaker 2: getting young people in the construction straates and I'm so
Speaker 2: happy to see that we are getting fifth graders now
Speaker 2: interested in there. It used to be a tough sell
Speaker 2: to school public schools in Cincinnati, John, where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know we were find the way where no, you're not.
Speaker 2: You're missing all these kids and you just it's so
Speaker 2: sad to me to think over the years how many
Speaker 2: kids were lost that that may have turned to a life.
Speaker 3: I mean, so let's face it.
Speaker 2: You know, you fall through the cracks, you drop out
Speaker 2: of school, life is it's not going to work out
Speaker 2: for you, and chances are going to depend on the
Speaker 2: system or in one way or the other. And we
Speaker 2: know what the outcome is. I mean, look at the
Speaker 2: violence happening in Cincinnati, and you wonder how many of
Speaker 2: those young lives could have been reached years before if
Speaker 2: we would have done this. But the good news is
Speaker 2: we're making progress. So let's talk about the expansion into
Speaker 2: public schools and the life because I mentioned Woodward and
Speaker 2: the light bulb went off for I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people and they heard and this is years ago,
Speaker 2: and you'd be able to articulate this better than I can,
Speaker 2: but I recall going, hey, these are kids are like
Speaker 2: on the margins, probably not doing well. All of a
Speaker 2: sudden we're teaching the trades, shop class, shop, math and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and they went from literally on the
Speaker 2: borderline of dropping out to being among the best performers
Speaker 2: in the school in the school itself as far as
Speaker 2: academics go.
Speaker 10: In twenty seventeen is when we started the program at
Speaker 10: Woodward and the first eleven students that were put into
Speaker 10: the program were very high risk. Two of the eleven
Speaker 10: dropped out of school fairly quick. The other nine continue
Speaker 10: through the program and graduated four years later. Seven went
Speaker 10: into the trades, two actually went into nursing, and one
Speaker 10: of the nine ended up top five of the class academically.
Speaker 5: Cool was that?
Speaker 10: And it was all because of the math program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they could see it now and I think
Speaker 2: that literally goes. I know it kept getting back to that,
Speaker 2: but that's a big thing, I think, to get those minds,
Speaker 2: the hearts and mind change. And then when you see
Speaker 2: the educators go wow, okay, well maybe we're missing something here.
Speaker 2: Now it's spread like wildfire.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we started it Woodward and teachers were talking to
Speaker 10: other teachers at other school systems, and maybe eight years
Speaker 10: later we're in thirty one school systems. That's unreal throughout
Speaker 10: Good Ohio and northern So it's making a comeback, but
Speaker 10: we still have a long way to go, right, Amanda.
Speaker 10: That's the thing is with the scholarship and the attention,
Speaker 10: the spirit of Construction Foundation, there's just so much more work.
Speaker 3: So this is just just the start of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, thirty one schools from one is a lot
Speaker 2: in just a few short years, less than a decade.
Speaker 2: But you know, you want to see that number in
Speaker 2: one hundreds, Nowolte, how do you do that?
Speaker 11: Well, one of the ways is that we are making
Speaker 11: investments in workforce development programs. Specifically, as we've mentioned, we're
Speaker 11: targeting kids that are in middle school in Northern Kentucky.
Speaker 11: We supported a program called Trades Northern Kentucky. It started
Speaker 11: out in Campbell County schools reaching about two hundred and
Speaker 11: seventy middle schoolers. With our support and matching dollars from BNKY,
Speaker 11: they're now in Kenton County schools and in Homes Middle
Speaker 11: school they're reaching over six hundred kids. And that's again
Speaker 11: providing expose to the students about what is skilled trades,
Speaker 11: what does a career path look like? And then for
Speaker 11: the very first time, Trades in Northern Kentucky is having
Speaker 11: a Skilled Trades Career Fair in April of twenty six
Speaker 11: And again, we just want to continue to provide exposure
Speaker 11: to students that, you know, as you guys have talked
Speaker 11: about our visual learners, maybe not you know, planning on
Speaker 11: going to college. But we want to tell the kids,
Speaker 11: but not only the kids, their parents that skilled trades
Speaker 11: is a viable career path where you can make great
Speaker 11: money and have a really great future and great career if.
Speaker 1: You pick it.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like because of these students, don't let
Speaker 2: the student debt and the long crisis and a host
Speaker 2: of other factors, that parents are starting to maybe wake
Speaker 2: up that way because on that long ago where and
Speaker 2: a lot of parents, some parents will still do this.
Speaker 2: They look at their success as a parent by where
Speaker 2: the kid goes to college, and not as that's right.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still that stigma out there like, oh,
Speaker 2: my kid doesn't go to college and he or she
Speaker 2: it's shame and somehow it's shameful, and it's all that's
Speaker 2: mark getting as all that is, are we starting to
Speaker 2: win that war of attrition or starting to win that war,
Speaker 2: that the trades are noble and also a very enriching area.
Speaker 11: To go absolutely, and I think it's all about dollars
Speaker 11: and cents too. If we can show them that your
Speaker 11: child can earn to learn through an apprenticeship program, so
Speaker 11: right out of high school they're making money, they're not encouraging,
Speaker 11: they're not incurring college debt, and they're making a really
Speaker 11: great wage. I think that's the story that we have
Speaker 11: to get to parents that it's it's an exciting, honorable
Speaker 11: career that a lot of people, you know, find great
Speaker 11: joy in and it's okay to not go to college.
Speaker 11: And so not only are we trying to tell the
Speaker 11: kids that, but we also need to tell their parents
Speaker 11: that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully that model is changing that the value
Speaker 2: of parenthood is not like where my kid went to school,
Speaker 2: or where I'm going to school, or you know, where
Speaker 2: the degree is from.
Speaker 3: It's rather fact is like are you being productive? You know,
Speaker 3: can you.
Speaker 2: Afford a middle class or off puss lifestyle. And a
Speaker 2: lot of folks who are in the trades right it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, the light bulb goes off, Like my nephew's
Speaker 2: in electrical now and I said, you know, when you're
Speaker 2: my age, though, you want to be the guy who
Speaker 2: owns the place that is hiring other electricians like John,
Speaker 2: You're a family business at Valianteer. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But how many guys do that? And women now that
Speaker 2: are learning and becoming masters of what they do, but
Speaker 2: then branching off and doing their own thing.
Speaker 3: That's American dream.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: The stories are numerous, and we at the gala next
Speaker 10: weekend over thirty years of a Lifetime Achievement Award winners.
Speaker 10: The stories were all about I had a pickup truck,
Speaker 10: I went to the banker and got a ten thousand
Speaker 10: dollars loan and created a you know, a company that
Speaker 10: hires five hundred people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So the stories are endless. It's just, you know, most
Speaker 10: contractors are very humble and don't toot their horn, and
Speaker 10: most people don't understand the opportunities that exist within the
Speaker 10: construction industry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Jostin for example, and you
Speaker 2: know the Smithman family, same thing. It's like, hey, we
Speaker 2: started this thing and they're growing and growing in company.
Speaker 2: It happens all the time, like these these people will leave,
Speaker 2: you know, folks will leave a company, or they'll get
Speaker 2: some experience in trades and wind up doing their own
Speaker 2: thing and grow, which turns out to be the future
Speaker 2: companies will be board members and have seats at the
Speaker 2: table at the future spiritual construction. So it's an awesome
Speaker 2: thing to see. So, you know, if you have the
Speaker 2: wherewith all the knowledge a little bit of luck on
Speaker 2: your side too, you can achieve these great things.
Speaker 3: And there's so many people. That always strikes me that.
Speaker 2: When we do the event, and again it's a twenty
Speaker 2: fifth and how many people are like, yeah, high school,
Speaker 2: you don't you know, you don't need a doctorate in construction.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice that we have that stuff right,
Speaker 2: architectural to grow, Okay, but a lot of those folks
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, I was swinging a hammer, or I
Speaker 2: was you know, I was using a shovel, or I
Speaker 2: was doing heavy equipment and just kind of grew into
Speaker 2: this thing. And here we are today and now when
Speaker 2: playing hundreds of people, it's.
Speaker 10: Great and a lot of people, you know, it's it's
Speaker 10: a very generous group of people. Also, I mean next
Speaker 10: weekend we're looking at raising and I think one point
Speaker 10: one million dollars to give back to the trades, right right,
Speaker 10: and this is all homegrown in Cincinnati companies that are
Speaker 10: that are supporting what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you go out to get to plug in
Speaker 2: real quick for the beer, because that's really, really good.
Speaker 2: That's one of the coolest partnerships collabs. As a kid
Speaker 2: say today, Spirit of Construction and Blueprint.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 11: So last spring, this past spring, we launched a beer
Speaker 11: with Braxton. It's called Braxton Blueprint and proceeds from the
Speaker 11: sales of the beer actually come back to the Spirit
Speaker 11: and we're going to reinvest in workforce development. The beer
Speaker 11: can be found at Kroger, party stores, independent liquor stores.
Speaker 11: So go out and buy a fifteen pack called Blueprint
Speaker 11: by braxsild.
Speaker 2: Print by Backs, which by the way, I have a fifty.
Speaker 2: I have some in my fridge at home for that
Speaker 2: very reason. Support the cause. And if you see that,
Speaker 2: go and it's really actually really good Beer's really they
Speaker 2: BRAC did a great job. We're there for the rollout.
Speaker 2: Got to get going. But again, I know that the
Speaker 2: gala is sold up. But congratulations John in your lifetime achievement.
Speaker 2: It's well deserved. My buddy John Strasser and Amanda Smith,
Speaker 2: who of course now is the executive director of Spirit
Speaker 2: Construction Foundation pomping in their gala happens on the twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: But just wanted to lay out all the great work
Speaker 2: well as bad news are happening, and this is good news,
Speaker 2: like this is solving the problem of generational poverty and
Speaker 2: the problems we face in downtown Cincinnati, but also enabling
Speaker 2: young people to realize that like hey, listen, not the
Speaker 2: best epic academic in the orld, but there's a chance
Speaker 2: for you to be extremely successful in life. It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean where you go to college. It's just youve got
Speaker 2: to continue your learning. Some of us learn differently than others,
Speaker 2: and we'll recognize that. And the growth has been tremendous
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. So really proud of that for you guys.
Speaker 2: Congratulations and thanks again for coming in.
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: I have a great weekend. I got to get a
Speaker 2: news break in. We'll find out what's happening in around
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Speaker 2: for a little sports. We'll talk Hooday, Hooday and more.
Speaker 2: Hooday is the Bengals and we should tip a hat
Speaker 2: to our brothers and sisters in Cleveland because together we
Speaker 2: are Ohio strong and Ohio proud. That the Browns may
Speaker 2: not win a game the rest of the season, but
Speaker 2: they still beat the Steelers yesterday at pay Course seven
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Speaker 2: Did you have hope and faith last night? Austin Elmore
Speaker 2: from ESPN fifteen thirty. Was there hope in faith?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 13: Honestly, I don't know that I've I ever really feel
Speaker 13: that way, to be honest, Like, there were a couple
Speaker 13: of moments where they had a chance to go win
Speaker 13: the game on offense, and the first drive they kind
Speaker 13: of urinated down their leg. The second drive they found
Speaker 13: a way to go get points. But you know, it's
Speaker 13: it's the universal, you know, feeling of a Cincinnati sports
Speaker 13: fan is how is this going to go wrong? And
Speaker 13: that's kind of what I was feeling, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because that first quarter, right, it's not like the Steelers
Speaker 2: are light up that the fake flea flicker whatever happened.
Speaker 2: Who was yelling at his running bags? Communications and interceptions?
Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of it's still ten
Speaker 2: nothing Pittsburgh. And on top of that, you know Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase missus a catch, Brown drops which should have been
Speaker 2: a thirty yard game. Yosi Vas drops another ball like
Speaker 2: he's gonna be on bench with Cam Taylor Bread without men,
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson as well. Yeah, no pass rush upsoever. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is not going to be good.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I think what changed it was. The turning point of
Speaker 2: this thing is that interception. DK Metcalf goes up for
Speaker 2: the ball and it was one of the best picks
Speaker 2: you're going to see by DJ Turner, who's been.
Speaker 13: Having a great year. I would say even the interception
Speaker 13: before that too.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 13: First play of the drive and Rogers takes a deep shot,
Speaker 13: and when you really go back and look at that throw,
Speaker 13: what was throw awful? I can understand, throw it up
Speaker 13: to your big guy, take a shot on first down,
Speaker 13: but the throw wasn't even close. Wasn't even a competitive
Speaker 13: throw from Aaron Rodgers. And to Jordan Battle's credit, he
Speaker 13: was all over to maximize on a mistake. Bengals get
Speaker 13: a touchdown immediately Following that, they start to find their rhythm.
Speaker 13: Then DJ Turner makes that interception you're talking about, which
Speaker 13: is a ridiculous steal the ball away, get my foot down,
Speaker 13: falling out of bounds, and the Bengals turn that into points.
Speaker 13: So it's not often you get two gifts interceptions from
Speaker 13: Aaron Rodgers, and it's even less often that you turn
Speaker 13: that into fourteen points.
Speaker 2: That was a key to the game and no help,
Speaker 2: we're right because Metcalf gets picked by You're right. Battle
Speaker 2: But then it was Chase Brown had his great run
Speaker 2: and then t scores. It's like, wait, what just happened? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the first time to lead since Burrow went down.
Speaker 13: Flipped the switch very quickly and it felt like, Okay,
Speaker 13: they're taking control a little bit here. They're maximizing on
Speaker 13: the mistakes of the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're not relying on
Speaker 13: their defense as much, and they're controlling the clock. And
Speaker 13: that drive after the first interception where they abro to
Speaker 13: run the football consistently and drain a little bit of
Speaker 13: clock and get into the end zone. That was the
Speaker 13: sign of things to come, and hopefully a sign of
Speaker 13: things to come for the future, because when you run
Speaker 13: the football. It opens everything else up. And last night
Speaker 13: there was a threat of the Bengals being able to
Speaker 13: run the ball, and because of that, Jamar Chase ran free,
Speaker 13: t Higgins ran free. Andre Yoshivas had a big thirty
Speaker 13: nine interception Noah off of a play action late in
Speaker 13: the game gets them into Pittsburgh territory. It opens up
Speaker 13: the rest of the offense when you have even the
Speaker 13: smallest threat of being able to run the ball.
Speaker 2: I know this is kiss Flacco's last day on the show,
Speaker 2: on it, but we should be because I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: you know, here's a guy.
Speaker 3: He's been with them now. Today is the tenth day
Speaker 3: he's at a Bengal at ten days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's what thirty one to forty seven last night,
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty two yards, three touchdowns, not won interception,
Speaker 2: So he's over five hundred yards, five tds and no
Speaker 2: iron t's in two games and the quarterback rating over
Speaker 2: one hundred. That's not just like hey, can they hang
Speaker 2: around and get it done until Joe one gets back?
Speaker 3: This is like all right, yeah, this is he's really good.
Speaker 3: This was the vision.
Speaker 13: Like you know, there was a list yesterday that came
Speaker 13: out of all the different quarterbacks that the Bengals looked
Speaker 13: at and considered and finally landing on Flacco and looking
Speaker 13: at that list, I don't know how many of them
Speaker 13: would be able to do.
Speaker 3: What he did last night.
Speaker 13: He's got this perfect mix of veteran presence, yeah, and
Speaker 13: is this perfect mix of being aggressive but not reliss
Speaker 13: and also getting the ball out quickly. It's finding a
Speaker 13: good completion but also not settling for stuff behind the
Speaker 13: behind the sticks, Like there were multiple times third and
Speaker 13: ten or longer where Flacco threw the ball past the
Speaker 13: first down marker trying to get a first down and
Speaker 13: completed them. And how many times do we complain about
Speaker 13: that as Bengals fans. Oh, it's third and ten and
Speaker 13: you throw a four yard slant and you're putting. Like
Speaker 13: the aggressiveness from Flacco, I thought did a great job
Speaker 13: of towing that line. And I think Zach Taylor deserves
Speaker 13: a lot of credit. I think we'll go ahead. I
Speaker 13: think Zach Taylor called his best game as a play
Speaker 13: caller since they beat the Buffalo Bills in the playoffs
Speaker 13: a couple of years ago. Like he had great feel,
Speaker 13: he had great balance, Everything worked off of one another.
Speaker 13: There were RPOs, there were quick game, there was some
Speaker 13: wrinkles into the run game.
Speaker 3: Zach did a great job. Yeah, I think what on
Speaker 3: that note two?
Speaker 2: I was like, at the end of the game, that
Speaker 2: is the greatest call that Taylor's had this season, and
Speaker 2: that would be bootleg Joe Flacco. And it turns out
Speaker 2: Flat was like, yeah, I was supposed to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because this calls it.
Speaker 13: I did that on my own, right what Yeah. I
Speaker 13: immediately shaped, I thought, what a ball shades of Ryan
Speaker 13: Finley against the Steelers on a Monday Night a couple
Speaker 13: of years ago, where he just keeps the ball and
Speaker 13: runs and basically ice is the game. And I was like,
Speaker 13: oh my god, they just did the Ryan Finley with
Speaker 13: Joe Flacco. And then come to find out, Flaco's like,
Speaker 13: I can't burn a time out, I don't want to
Speaker 13: take a delay a game.
Speaker 7: Screw it.
Speaker 13: I'll just run it myself, and he did and got
Speaker 13: twelve dollars. Just like they're looking I forget who which
Speaker 13: player it was for. They they're bocking and they're pushing
Speaker 13: there and he's running the other way and he does
Speaker 13: like the Scooby Doo double takes, like here's Joe crawling
Speaker 13: like a lot, like just get ten.
Speaker 3: Baby, and that the stadium reaction to that was awesome.
Speaker 5: It was so good.
Speaker 2: People are high five. And then there's hope in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: once again. Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty on the
Speaker 2: Show this morning on seven hundred w welw uh. They
Speaker 2: score on seven eight drives excess and where were you though?
Speaker 2: Steelers take the late lead and you could almost feel
Speaker 2: it coming. Yeah, and I'm watching this game and it's like,
Speaker 2: sure enough. The one drive that they don't score on
Speaker 2: they give it to Pat Fryerman with about sixty I
Speaker 2: don't know why he's that open at this point in
Speaker 2: the game. There's so much on the line and basically
Speaker 2: walks in the end Z one. They're like second and twenty,
Speaker 2: I think, with under three minutes left. Yeah, and at
Speaker 2: the moment, you're like typical Bengals, right, But I didn't
Speaker 2: think that. I'm I went the minute they score, I
Speaker 2: looked down at the clock and went, I think we're
Speaker 2: still gonna win this because you just started.
Speaker 3: A field goal scored a little too quickly.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it is what it came down to,
Speaker 13: and it gave the Bengals a chance to run that
Speaker 13: two minute offense and not get out of contract. They
Speaker 13: still had time to run the ball, they still had
Speaker 13: time to do those play actions like they didn't have
Speaker 13: to just go into a full spread it out work
Speaker 13: the sideline type of situation where you're relying on on
Speaker 13: Flacco and your past your pass blockers to really be
Speaker 13: perf and so because of that, you were able to
Speaker 13: just kind of operate the offense the way you normally
Speaker 13: would and the most, you know, the best play of
Speaker 13: the night was the deep ball to T Higgins and
Speaker 13: he slides down inside the ten, And that basically number
Speaker 13: one is respect for Aaron Rodgers. It's also understanding that
Speaker 13: your defense can't stop anybody, and it keeps you in
Speaker 13: control of the game and forces Pittsburgh to start using timeouts.
Speaker 13: It was an unselfish, brilliant play by T.
Speaker 5: Higgins.
Speaker 13: And on top of that, again, I keep going back
Speaker 13: to the play call. They didn't get conservative in that situation.
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor's dialing up a deep ball and T Higgins
Speaker 13: goes and gets it, and.
Speaker 2: He goes sideline. He does that cut in and slides
Speaker 2: down and makes a great catch. In all the credit
Speaker 2: the world of a play calling too, But to me,
Speaker 2: that's the catch of the game because t Higgins could
Speaker 2: have went in the end zone because he's four yards
Speaker 2: short of one hundred. Yeah right, and players pay attention, sure,
Speaker 2: and he's like, no, I gotta go down because we can.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make them burn their timeus we're gonna win
Speaker 2: this football game. And that was like, to me, was selflessness.
Speaker 2: His te zones overshadowed by Jamar great play, but that
Speaker 2: was the play of the game for me.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and again, I think it speaks to the culture
Speaker 13: of Okay, it's really not about anything else, it's about winning.
Speaker 13: Jamar Chase was asked after the game, you know, would
Speaker 13: that have been hard for you to do in that
Speaker 13: moment to slide down, And he's like, no, not if
Speaker 13: you want to win, Like like there wasn't even a
Speaker 13: second thought, not even a hesitation, And it made you
Speaker 13: feel like, Okay, the Bengals are prepared, they understand the situation,
Speaker 13: they're smart, they are unselfish. Those qualities are all very
Speaker 13: important in a football team. Now, if they could tackle,
Speaker 13: that'd be great, right, Well, if they could run the
Speaker 13: ball more consistently, that'd be great, But in those moments
Speaker 13: where you got to win the football game by doing
Speaker 13: the little stuff, they did it right.
Speaker 2: One final point on that too, Austin Elmore is that
Speaker 2: he is like the He's like the quarterback therapy dog
Speaker 2: Flacco is in that this team. I look at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the first started the game, right, Guys are
Speaker 2: dropping balls. Yoshavakh drops another one, Chase had an easy
Speaker 2: catch across the middle, even Chase dropped one. Guys are
Speaker 2: jumping off sides. But all through the game he had
Speaker 2: this common presence like he was never rattled, you know,
Speaker 2: even it was under pressure, he'd get rid of the ball,
Speaker 2: make great choices, and it's almost like you could see
Speaker 2: this time teams starting to believe, like, hey, you know
Speaker 2: what what happened in the second half in Green Bay
Speaker 2: where we started to come back. That's carrying over to
Speaker 2: this game and we're starting to believe. Whereas I look
Speaker 2: at the other side and Aaron Rodgers kind of a dick.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's you know, he's he's like yelling is
Speaker 2: the flea fucker player Yellow is running Like every time
Speaker 2: someone go rug, you'd be yelling at people like I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not going to kill myself for this guy's
Speaker 2: a jerk, whereas Flack was like, it's we got.
Speaker 3: This, it's flying, take it easy.
Speaker 2: Even the two, you know, the drive at the end
Speaker 2: of the game is like never looked like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: we gotta get down the field.
Speaker 3: Sometimes Burrow would do that.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like, there's this dad influence over
Speaker 2: this team right now, and maybe that's what they needed.
Speaker 13: I do think that there's probably something to that, like
Speaker 13: the whole Dad influence to it of like, fine, this
Speaker 13: is the I've There's there's no situation that Joe Flacco
Speaker 13: hasn't seen in the NFL as experienced.
Speaker 3: There's no pressure. I played in Cleveland, It's fine.
Speaker 13: I played with the Colts, the Broadcos, the Ravens, the Browns.
Speaker 3: It's fine. I've been here and done this.
Speaker 13: And Jamar Chase kind of talked about that afterwards too,
Speaker 13: calling him like Joe calm instead of Joe cool, and
Speaker 13: how his facial expression just never changed, and you know,
Speaker 13: much like a lot of Bengals fans in that moment
Speaker 13: are feeling, okay, here it goes unraveled.
Speaker 3: We thought when scores like here we go.
Speaker 13: Joe Flacco in that moment is like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 13: go win the game, and here's how we're gonna do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 13: And you know, I think I think Burrow has that
Speaker 13: trade as well, which is what makes him great. I
Speaker 13: think all the great quarterbacks have that, even Rogers. Rogers
Speaker 13: I think was frustrated last night because I don't think
Speaker 13: he performed to his standard. And you know, the the
Speaker 13: flea flicker play was a miscommunication. The deep ball to
Speaker 13: DK Metcalf was a bad throw, The interception to DJ
Speaker 13: Turner was just unlucky, and all of a sudden, Rogers
Speaker 13: is like, what do I got to do here?
Speaker 3: To work?
Speaker 13: And then the deep ball to friar Mouth. I don't
Speaker 13: know if you saw this. He's running off the field
Speaker 13: celebrating doing his thing and his tackle. Roderick Jones comes
Speaker 13: over to celebrate with him and kind of like tackles
Speaker 13: him and brings him down to the ground, and Rogers
Speaker 13: gets up matter in a wet hornet shoves him and
Speaker 13: it's like basically giving him you mf or why you
Speaker 13: tackling me? After a touchdown and just kind of bad
Speaker 13: vibes from Rogers last the Achilles.
Speaker 3: And stuff and that tush bush. He wasn't even in
Speaker 3: the same time zone.
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 13: Bit of an old dude that had to play on
Speaker 13: a Thursday night past his bedtime.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's a little cranky.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty jumping this morning. The
Speaker 2: big Bungal went last night, and tired and happy is
Speaker 2: better than tired and pissed off because that could have
Speaker 2: went that way with the Steelers taking a lead at
Speaker 2: the end of the game. But you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: there's it's as good as it was. We should celebrate
Speaker 2: this because, I mean, let's face it, the offensive line
Speaker 2: did what they had to do. Uh, guys were showing
Speaker 2: up doing their jobs. I thought that, you know, I
Speaker 2: mentioned Turner Hill. I thought they played a great game.
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's perfect by any means. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the tackling thing. I'm sick for the puck. I
Speaker 2: love hockey, so I started watching hockey this week. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, there's some Bengals players that would be
Speaker 2: better at hockey than tackling because they were checking guys
Speaker 2: they weren't tackling.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I'm going through my notes again right now,
Speaker 13: and I have first drive, missed tackles, second drive, miss tackles,
Speaker 13: third drive, more miss tackles, fourth drive. These guys can't tackle,
Speaker 13: can't tackle, and you know, it just kept so many
Speaker 13: drives alive for Pittsburgh. It kept them on the field.
Speaker 13: And this is the basic stuff we're talking about, like
Speaker 13: can you get to the point of attack and wrap
Speaker 13: up why? And everybody on that defense struggles to get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, you know, yards after initial contact
Speaker 2: they got to be the worst than the leak they are.
Speaker 13: That's actually you know, going into last night, that was
Speaker 13: one of the stats it was in Why I thought
Speaker 13: it could get ugly for the Bengals was because the
Speaker 13: Steelers led the NFL and yards after catch going into
Speaker 13: last night, and the Bengals were the worst in the
Speaker 13: NFL allowing yards after catch going into last night. Now,
Speaker 13: they did keep things in front of them for the
Speaker 13: most part, and they did a good job of swarming
Speaker 13: to the ball, but it rarely, rarely felt like the
Speaker 13: first guy brought the guy down to the ground, and
Speaker 13: that sort of stuff you just can't allow to happen.
Speaker 13: Honest to god, I believe if Pittsburgh wanted to. They
Speaker 13: could have run that toss play to the right every
Speaker 13: single play and won the game. Because you're getting guys
Speaker 13: out in space, you're making them you know, one on
Speaker 13: one situations and forcing them to tackle, and you're beating
Speaker 13: them to the to the edge. Pittsburgh had a really
Speaker 13: good game plan too, because they just used the boundary,
Speaker 13: use the sideline, get their guys out of space until
Speaker 13: until the Bengals proved that we can you know, they
Speaker 13: can tackle them.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna keep doing.
Speaker 2: The Bengals run defense was terrible again, So and that's
Speaker 2: something got to Clint. Just gash right, But hey, take
Speaker 2: the win, get a momentum on your side. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can fix the things we just talked
Speaker 2: about and how you fix the tax.
Speaker 13: Here's the thing you got to understand. Tackling like that again,
Speaker 13: the New York Jets that will get you beat. Everybody
Speaker 13: is already saying, oh, well, we got the Jets coming
Speaker 13: to town and they're win.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. Doesn't matter, you know.
Speaker 13: Twenty nineteen, Zach Taylor's first year as the Bengals head coach,
Speaker 13: the Bengals I think were oh and eleven or oh
Speaker 13: to twelve, and the Jets came to town and the
Speaker 13: Bengals whooped their ass because the jets didn't play clean football.
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor's first career win. Same situation here Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 13: first time head coach with the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: He's coming in.
Speaker 13: Those dudes are mad, they've been embarrassed, they've lost some
Speaker 13: games they should have won, and here come the Bengals
Speaker 13: off of this big high of a Thursday.
Speaker 3: Night win trap game.
Speaker 13: If you tackle the way that you tackled, or if
Speaker 13: you attempt to tackle the way that you tackled against
Speaker 13: Pittsburgh Steelers, you will get beat by the New York Jets.
Speaker 13: You cannot do that. That has to get cleaned up.
Speaker 13: I don't know how to fix that.
Speaker 2: And we and we've been talking about all season over
Speaker 2: three seasons. I don't know how you do it either,
Speaker 2: honestly clean that up and just how what they are
Speaker 2: they can't tackle.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, the biggest culprit to me is Demetrius Night,
Speaker 13: junior rookie linebacker. Everyone talks about how fast he is
Speaker 13: and how physical he is, but he never plays under control,
Speaker 13: and I would like to see him play under control
Speaker 13: and get to the point of attack. I don't know
Speaker 13: if he can be that player. Can he play fast
Speaker 13: and under control? And you know, if he is under control,
Speaker 13: is he quick enough to compete in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's a major issue, all right.
Speaker 2: Today at noon, it's Austin Elmore in ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2: What he got Who talked to Charlie Goldsmith, he was
Speaker 2: there last night. We'll get his perspective, reaction from the
Speaker 2: locker room, what Joe Flacco and Jamar Chase had to say,
Speaker 2: and so much more. It's a Friday football frenzy.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Victory for the best thing out of this whole thing.
Speaker 2: The best thing I know I were late. The best
Speaker 2: thing out of this whole thing was the fact that
Speaker 2: Cleveland has been through.
Speaker 3: Twenty five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they were twenty years and like he
Speaker 2: was in, Coaches Tomlins all pissed off about him to
Speaker 2: a division rifle and then Joe Flacco does that last night.
Speaker 2: Cleveland beat the beat the Steelers last night without even
Speaker 2: playing him. That's what happened, was a clean sweep. Be'st
Speaker 2: State of Ohio give him another win, Give him another
Speaker 2: win in the division. Give him another win Austin. Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Home of the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: So only on.
Speaker 14: Seven hundred WWIM looking forward to maybe some rain this
Speaker 14: weekend because in my state right now, with my ankle surgery,
Speaker 14: because I had a little bit of a bone that
Speaker 14: was sticking out that caused they tendon to rupture, I'd
Speaker 14: have that shaved down.
Speaker 2: I'm in an ankle boot and crutches and a scooter
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable week, at least hopefully less than a week.
Speaker 2: We'll find out why is that? Well, once you hit
Speaker 2: your fifties, your good friend osteoarthritis comes into play. All
Speaker 2: those issues. When you're in your forties, you go, oh man,
Speaker 2: what is that? Why does that hurt? When your thirties,
Speaker 2: you go, what's that creaking noise? In your twenties, you're
Speaker 2: doing all the stuff that causes where you get to
Speaker 2: where I am today, and you're popping advil like they're
Speaker 2: freaking baltoids like back in the day. Buddy, good news
Speaker 2: though we have made some inroads into how to treat
Speaker 2: this and joining the show this morning from OHC on
Speaker 2: the west side. There's also one in Kenwood too, is
Speaker 2: doctor Matthew Burtke, with some interesting developments in treating arth
Speaker 2: writ stock. Good morning, How are you.
Speaker 9: I'm doing well?
Speaker 7: How about yourself?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I wish I would have known this a while ago,
Speaker 2: although the treatment you're going to talk about is relatively new.
Speaker 2: So you know, I had a shoulder, my joint replaced
Speaker 2: on my shoulder. I just had my ankle done. So
Speaker 2: I wish I could go back in time and have
Speaker 2: this ready for me, that's for sure.
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, you're not alone there. It's a pretty common tang.
Speaker 2: I had fun weirded out, at least I did that.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about this. If you have that kind
Speaker 2: of pain and you're like, wow, my joint, my knee
Speaker 2: hurts my generally it's knee, wrist, hand, arm, back, shoulder. Certainly,
Speaker 2: it happens and presents all over the body. So I'm
Speaker 2: here about rollodiverse radiation. Of course, I'm thinking about the
Speaker 2: Manhattan Project, and I'm going, well, I know radiation is
Speaker 2: bad for me. Isn't it even low doses? Isn't it
Speaker 2: doesn't it add up in your body? Is there a
Speaker 2: concern that this could wind up causing more problems down
Speaker 2: the line, like speaking of which of cancers and the like,
Speaker 2: because you're being exposed to radiation, how does that work?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great question to ask, and you know,
Speaker 9: was one of the things that kept us from kind
Speaker 9: of doing this on a more widespread scale and till
Speaker 9: more recently, mostly because of that public procession out of
Speaker 9: the risk. Now, I think the key is the low dose.
Speaker 9: When we talk about low dose radiation therapy, we're talking
Speaker 9: about much much lower doses than we use to treat
Speaker 9: say cancer, for instance, and at these very low doses,
Speaker 9: there have been no proven side effects in terms of
Speaker 9: you know, secondary cancers or other risks to the tissues
Speaker 9: in that area, just because of the very low nature
Speaker 9: of radiation. So whereas it's something that we certainly worry
Speaker 9: about when we're giving higher doses for something like cancer,
Speaker 9: this is kind of a very different topic.
Speaker 2: How much different Let's say, you know, comparatively, speaking for
Speaker 2: the lay person, doctor, would the difference between let's say
Speaker 2: typical X ray or imaging versus this treatment.
Speaker 9: So this is more on the order of a typical
Speaker 9: X ray or cat scan, except we're targeting a smaller
Speaker 9: part of the body. So when we think about radiational
Speaker 9: we have to think about not the more much we give,
Speaker 9: but where we're giving it. And giving a small ghost
Speaker 9: of radiation to a knee is a lot less risky
Speaker 9: than giving a whole body cat scan with contrast, so
Speaker 9: you know, this this is a treatment that has kind
Speaker 9: of low risk on the level of the standard imaging
Speaker 9: that you think about going into the hospital for.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's probably like a I don't know, said
Speaker 2: the lice, but stereotactic, So it's really it's directed towards
Speaker 2: that particular joint, not the whole body.
Speaker 9: Correct. Yeah, so this is targeted. We focus on the
Speaker 9: joint and the whole joint space and not just that
Speaker 9: bone on bone like you were talking about before, but
Speaker 9: kind of all the fluid that surrounds the joint because
Speaker 9: it works as an anti inflammatory, so you know, kind
Speaker 9: of like you think of your your advils, your leaves,
Speaker 9: things like that that are meant to be anti inflammatory. Well,
Speaker 9: this does it kind of on a on a different
Speaker 9: kind of cellular level and targeting all those inflammatory you know,
Speaker 9: tissues and cells within that joint space to kind of
Speaker 9: turn that inflammation down. That's that's how this works.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So the cells, the leucas, it's all that technical
Speaker 2: microfages and all that technical stuff that that's activated. Basically
Speaker 2: it does it temporarily bock that pathway what's going on
Speaker 2: inside my body.
Speaker 7: With that, So.
Speaker 9: It works on a level that is going to give you,
Speaker 9: most likely more longer lasting pain relief than you know,
Speaker 9: something like a topical gel or a pill that you take.
Speaker 9: Those anti inflammatories are only working for on the order
Speaker 9: of a few hours. Most of most of our patients
Speaker 9: that perceive this treatment get pain relief anywhere on the
Speaker 9: order of you know, six months to two years or
Speaker 9: longer in terms of how how durable the treatment is.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Doctor Matthew Burkey is on. He's a radiation oncologist
Speaker 2: at o HC and new therapy out for those who
Speaker 2: suffer from ostiarthritis, which is like, well pretty much anyone
Speaker 2: over the age of forty five. I think everyone's up.
Speaker 2: We're beating a hell of ours. Well we're you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, we're exercising more. People are more active, younger
Speaker 2: people especially, But you know, I watch people do CrossFit
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and I try to remain very
Speaker 2: active myself. And it's funny because you know, the train
Speaker 2: year of somebody will tell you is like it's just pain,
Speaker 2: is just temporary, like not not when you're past fifty,
Speaker 2: it's pretty permanent.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know.
Speaker 2: All the stuff you do now you think it's good
Speaker 2: for your body, You're gonna wind, You're gonna wear out
Speaker 2: some joints, and that's that's true. We're living longer too,
Speaker 2: So this arthritis and austri arthritis especially is absolutely booming
Speaker 2: and that's not a good thing. But low dose radiation
Speaker 2: therapy l d RT is what it's called.
Speaker 3: They do that at OHC.
Speaker 2: And I guess anyone over that age do you have
Speaker 2: to be presenting with symptoms? You know, if you say,
Speaker 2: am I shoulder hurts a little bit? Who's what's the
Speaker 2: range of I guess the typical patient that's indicated for Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 9: So you know, now every patient's different, obviously, but typically
Speaker 9: patients that we consider for this treatment are, you know,
Speaker 9: over the age of forty five and they have you know,
Speaker 9: persistent arthritis pain in you know, either a single or
Speaker 9: multiple joints, and typically they've already tried some more conservative
Speaker 9: measures you know, like the rest or rehab. They've tried
Speaker 9: the topical pain relievers like the gels or the anti
Speaker 9: inflammatory pills, and then kind of along the same pathway
Speaker 9: where maybe you'd be considering joint injections or things like that.
Speaker 9: That's when you can start considering lotus radiation for arthritis
Speaker 9: relief before you get to the stage of requiring surgery.
Speaker 9: So it kind of it kind of fits in that
Speaker 9: same realm of you know, when you would be thinking
Speaker 9: about doing joint injections and you're kind of tired of
Speaker 9: popping those at.
Speaker 7: Bill got you.
Speaker 2: So for someone like me, where there's no differentiation between
Speaker 2: the ball and the socket and I don't find my
Speaker 2: humor is very funny, by the way, you can't fix
Speaker 2: that well.
Speaker 9: So I wouldn't say that because I do have some
Speaker 9: patients that for whatever reason aren't able to get a surgery,
Speaker 9: and they already do have you know, dramatic wear and
Speaker 9: tear on their joint to where they're bone on bone,
Speaker 9: and they do get relief, but sometimes that relief is
Speaker 9: not as long lasting because you can cause more inflammation
Speaker 9: quickly when there's bone on bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, all right, So how long does
Speaker 2: the procedure take? How many treatments do I need? What
Speaker 2: does that course?
Speaker 9: So, depending on the situation, we typically do between five
Speaker 9: and eight treatments of radiation. Each one is quite quick.
Speaker 9: It only lasts maybe five to ten minutes each session.
Speaker 9: There's nothing that you see or feel during radiation. It's
Speaker 9: kind of like a chest X ray or a cat stand.
Speaker 9: You're kind of laying there on a table and the
Speaker 9: machine's moving around you doing its thing, but the radiation
Speaker 9: itself is invisible and it's being targeted precisely at that
Speaker 9: joint while you're just laying there relaxed.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. So do you start to
Speaker 2: notice results right away? And how does that work?
Speaker 9: Most of the patients that I've treated start seeing results
Speaker 9: about halfway through their course of radiation, so maybe two
Speaker 9: or three treatments in, but a lot of times we
Speaker 9: see the biggest relief in the weeks after we're done
Speaker 9: that kind of delayed inflammatory blockage.
Speaker 2: Boy, it seems like this is the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2: I mean, how long ago this was this discovered? And
Speaker 2: I imagine know you're probably treating patients for tumors and things,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Hey, by the way, this
Speaker 2: doesn't hurt anymore. And you know, often a medicine or
Speaker 2: a treatment is indicated for something else and you wind
Speaker 2: up going a whole different direction, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like.
Speaker 2: Every drug we have is like, well, it was for this,
Speaker 2: but it turns out it's going to fix something else.
Speaker 9: For sure, And that kind of is how it first
Speaker 9: got developed. But this has actually been around for decades
Speaker 9: and it's in much more popular use in other parts
Speaker 9: of the world, in Europe and Germany for instance. You know,
Speaker 9: a large chunk of the radiation treatments they do are
Speaker 9: for benign conditions like arthritis or planet fasciatus rather than
Speaker 9: for cancer. It's just not been as popular in America,
Speaker 9: mostly because those you know, radiation safety concerns, like we
Speaker 9: talked about earlier in our conversation. And as we've kind
Speaker 9: of proven some of those you know to be uh,
Speaker 9: you know, not as big of a risk as you
Speaker 9: know originally was thought, a lot of us are trying
Speaker 9: to roll it out to the public to try to
Speaker 9: help more people here in America.
Speaker 2: Obviously, every drug, every procedure and intervention isn't always successful.
Speaker 2: We know that you're not going to bat a thousand here,
Speaker 2: and I bet, but in this case, what what typically
Speaker 2: can I expect?
Speaker 9: So most of the data that you look at will
Speaker 9: show about a three out of four success rate in
Speaker 9: terms of uh, you know, noticeable pain relief where patients
Speaker 9: either require less medication or non medication or you know,
Speaker 9: are dramatically improved in terms of their pain. Our results
Speaker 9: have been similar to that, maybe a little bit higher,
Speaker 9: maybe more like.
Speaker 5: Four out of five.
Speaker 9: But you know, the the response rates have been really
Speaker 9: really reassuring to see, and you know it, it's been
Speaker 9: something where even some of my patients that were you know,
Speaker 9: self admitted doubters of the treatment that we're kind of
Speaker 9: at their end of their end of their rope and
Speaker 9: we're decided that they were going to give anything a shot,
Speaker 9: have been pleasantly surprised at the response they've gotten.
Speaker 2: This sounds like it's it's more successful than you know.
Speaker 2: For example, a knee joint, a lot of people are
Speaker 2: doing the knee gel injected, the Visco supplementation, I think
Speaker 2: is what it's called knee jael. That this is more
Speaker 2: successful than that, I would.
Speaker 9: Say that they're pretty similar. It's it's hard to compare
Speaker 9: the two because I don't have a clinical trial of the
Speaker 9: point two that directly compares them. But I think our
Speaker 9: experience in terms of the benefit that we gets helped
Speaker 9: prior to the knee injections. In my personal experience, I
Speaker 9: think the duration or how long the treatment lasts, tends
Speaker 9: to be a little bit more of a durable or
Speaker 9: longer lasting treatment with the radiation compared to some of
Speaker 9: the knee injections, especially once you've done injections a few times,
Speaker 9: they sometimes kind of just wear off in terms of
Speaker 9: their effectiveness to do them over and over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, well, I mean see or did you get
Speaker 2: three bites of the apple and that's it? So this
Speaker 2: is the more extreme version of that, and I think
Speaker 2: it is. But this has got to show promise in
Speaker 2: a bunch of other areas as well when it comes
Speaker 2: to long lasting pain relief, right, definitely.
Speaker 9: So arthritis is you know, a big one, and obviously,
Speaker 9: like you mentioned, it affects the majority of people that
Speaker 9: are a little bit older, but other other things too,
Speaker 9: planet fasciatus and other more inflammatory related things can also
Speaker 9: be treated with the same technique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very interesting. If only I could target that
Speaker 2: at people that caused me pain in problems.
Speaker 3: That would be awesome too.
Speaker 9: I'll work on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get on that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing this weekend, but I
Speaker 2: want to try to be more efficient here. Doctor Matthew
Speaker 2: Bertie is a radio radiation on colleges. He's at OHC
Speaker 2: I believe in the West Side, and we're talking about
Speaker 2: low dose rt l d RT low dose radiation therapy,
Speaker 2: which has been used in Europe for a while. It's
Speaker 2: been cleared here in the United States. People are a
Speaker 2: little leery about it, probably because they're talking about radiation.
Speaker 2: But we're seeing long lasting results for or osteoarthritis. So
Speaker 2: you've got knee or joint or back pain or elbow pain,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. And once you start to get in
Speaker 2: your forties, you start to learn about our good friend arthritis.
Speaker 2: And then when you're broke down an old like me,
Speaker 2: then you have to start getting joints replaced. This this
Speaker 2: won't stop that though, Right this, if you're doing something
Speaker 2: wrong or you're just inclined to osteoarthritis, my family is
Speaker 2: and that's why I am where I am. Uh, this
Speaker 2: isn't going to reverse anything, right, This is just a pain.
Speaker 9: Relief, that's correct. Yeah, it's not. It's not going to
Speaker 9: build back the cartilage or build back any of the structure.
Speaker 9: And unfortunately, you know, wearing tear is a fact of
Speaker 9: life on the human body. But we're basically trying to
Speaker 9: slow down the inflammation and you know, slow down that
Speaker 9: rated decline and you know, maybe you know, put off
Speaker 9: the need for a surgery so longer in the future,
Speaker 9: or you know, prevent it altogether if possible.
Speaker 2: Well, not only that, I'm you know, people have cringey
Speaker 2: a little bit about radiation, and I get that, but
Speaker 2: in low doses it's we're not seeing long term effects
Speaker 2: and the build up in your box. But the other element,
Speaker 2: there's a clear and present ageous we know about opioid addiction,
Speaker 2: and this, to me is a much better alternative than
Speaker 2: getting on some sort of prescriptive medicine that could lead
Speaker 2: and ultimately cause my death or you know, imprisonment. God
Speaker 2: only knows what will happen, And there's a lot of
Speaker 2: horror stories about that. I don't want to get Most
Speaker 2: people hear oxyconton are like, I don't want anything to
Speaker 2: do with it. This seems like a reasonable non addictive
Speaker 2: habit forming alternative that's you don't have to take every day.
Speaker 9: For sure, And you know, I'd certainly encourage people to
Speaker 9: try things like the anti inflammatory medications if that's something
Speaker 9: that their doctor recommends. But the opiate medications are kind
Speaker 9: of a whole other class that you know, has kind
Speaker 9: of rightly gotten a little bit more of a concerning
Speaker 9: connotation in the public and something that you know, I
Speaker 9: think we should be rightly cautious of. And obviously radiation
Speaker 9: is not something that has addictive potential or some of
Speaker 9: the other bad effects that you can see with opiates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this uncovered by insurance? That's probably the other
Speaker 2: big question people as it is.
Speaker 9: So it's covered by Medicare, it's covered by private insurance.
Speaker 9: It's in their guidelines in terms of it being a
Speaker 9: safe and approved effective treatment. So we have not had
Speaker 9: any issues in terms of, you know, insurance approvals or
Speaker 9: problems like that.
Speaker 2: All right, Doctor Matthew Bertkey at OHCOH West, specifically as
Speaker 2: where your practice is located as a radiation and collogists
Speaker 2: and the benefit of low dose radiation therapy for joint pain.
Speaker 2: That's incredible, Hey, thanks for joining really interesting stuff. And
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming.
Speaker 3: On this morning.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is.
Speaker 2: An appropriate topic for a friend, quite honestly. Although you
Speaker 2: know you got to get out this weekend. The weather
Speaker 2: is not going to be the best for getting out
Speaker 2: and doing so. But man, we have a stretch of
Speaker 2: let's face it, you know we've got a little rank
Speaker 2: coming this weekend. It's not gonna wash everything out by
Speaker 2: any means, but yeah, we had an incredible stretch of
Speaker 2: weather right now. People are getting and doing stuff. And
Speaker 2: you know, when you're younger, you fall, you hurt yourself out.
Speaker 2: Look at the game last night, players getting injured right
Speaker 2: in the like, and you know the stuff you do
Speaker 2: at this age when you're younger, in your twenties, the
Speaker 2: bill comes due in your forties and fifties.
Speaker 3: That's just the nature of it.
Speaker 2: So you know two schools I thought, don't do anything
Speaker 2: and die from well some illness, or do everything and
Speaker 2: get joints replaced in your bones ground down as I'm
Speaker 2: going through. So at some point the bill comes due,
Speaker 2: regardless for you are busy or you're not busy. So
Speaker 2: and then there's a lucky few freaks out there that
Speaker 2: can run marathons in their nineties. For crying out loud,
Speaker 2: you're a freak and no one likes you. We'll do
Speaker 2: a news update and when we switch it up, plenty
Speaker 2: to do, plenty to see, plenty to drink and eat.
Speaker 2: Ali Martin, our friend is here. It's the Local Loop.
Speaker 2: What's happening in and around Cincinnati. No football this weekend
Speaker 2: here locally, although I should say, you know, we got
Speaker 2: bear cats and that's all good, although they're on the road,
Speaker 2: so nonetheless, you know you look for something to do,
Speaker 2: we got you covered straight ahead on this Friday morning.
Speaker 3: I'm scott'sloan. This is seven hundred W O.
Speaker 6: Them dot, don't don't dot.
Speaker 7: The weekends coming on and you need to make the
Speaker 7: most of it. Where to go and what to do.
Speaker 10: She has to gipsent insight to help you make it
Speaker 10: us super weekend.
Speaker 7: So listen up. This is the Local Loop with Ali
Speaker 7: Martin on seven hundred w l W.
Speaker 3: That happy music and intro means Ali Martin is here.
Speaker 2: Because that also means it's Friday, which is criticals little
Speaker 2: nappy kind of day today because you stay up late
Speaker 2: to watch the Bengals game.
Speaker 3: Just got a little nappy in their future today.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm happy.
Speaker 6: I think I've got some energy from the game. I
Speaker 6: don't think I need an app.
Speaker 2: How many times have we stand late to watch the
Speaker 2: Bengals and you feel like crap because they lost embarrassingly?
Speaker 2: So sorrows away because when they SCOI it, when Fried
Speaker 2: with it that long touchdown at sixty air and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I stayed up for this.
Speaker 1: Well then Flacco coming in clutch.
Speaker 3: Coming in clutch quick.
Speaker 2: But I looked at the clock after Kliams, I'm like,
Speaker 2: Michelle was like, oh man, they're gonna lose this. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Flacco is gonna They got a lot
Speaker 2: of time left.
Speaker 6: I love seeing, first of all, the face off of
Speaker 6: these two quarterbacks where you have Aaron Rodgers and Joe
Speaker 6: Flacco the senior quarterback rolling through.
Speaker 1: But it was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 6: They're shake at the end, and he seemed calm, cool
Speaker 6: and collected the whole time.
Speaker 2: He really did, and he kind of knew it too.
Speaker 2: He's just like icy and icy hot, but icy cold
Speaker 2: maybe Joe cool.
Speaker 3: Two point zero.
Speaker 2: Because Rogers goes on the fields, they score, they go
Speaker 2: ahead and then you look at it go wait, this
Speaker 2: is Joe Flacco, not like you feel like he's gonna
Speaker 2: go hey, okay, hold my insure and they go down
Speaker 2: the field and.
Speaker 6: There was just something about the plays just looked really clean,
Speaker 6: and they looked really quick, quick snack.
Speaker 2: There's some things they still can't tackle and the can't
Speaker 2: really get to the quarterback.
Speaker 3: But you know what I.
Speaker 1: Think, right now, we just need an embrace a win.
Speaker 2: The ovisional win, and I know plans are like we have,
Speaker 2: but they won, and they won in a great fashion,
Speaker 2: in a.
Speaker 6: Great fashion at home against his dealers, and I feel like,
Speaker 6: right now, this is such a this is that was
Speaker 6: to me, it was a really crucial game because of
Speaker 6: just where we are in the season and if we
Speaker 6: would have lost.
Speaker 2: That and not that we need that's like the positive
Speaker 2: news are we now? Because had the Bengals lost, the
Speaker 2: other big story that we're over Shado probably is another
Speaker 2: fatal shooting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, downtown, how tired are you?
Speaker 2: Like literally right at right outside? Well, I'm from a
Speaker 2: great American there more but right off the gam like
Speaker 2: two am.
Speaker 1: And are you talking about all of them?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been a little bit it's exhausting, it really is.
Speaker 2: That's why you're here this morning. Because we don't talk
Speaker 2: about the heavy stuff on Friday. We took up with
Speaker 2: the fun stuff to do. Give me something fun to do.
Speaker 6: Well, speaking about throwing long passes down a field, how
Speaker 6: about throwing paper planes in a brewery.
Speaker 3: They're having a paper plane battle. Listen to this.
Speaker 6: Okay, so it's called a paper plane derby, and it's
Speaker 6: not this Tuesday's two tuesdays from now at Ryan Guys.
Speaker 1: So October twenty eighth.
Speaker 6: Why are we tell this now because only twenty people
Speaker 6: are able to participate, and the sign ups are now,
Speaker 6: and if you don't participate, it's gonna be fun to
Speaker 6: watch no matter what. So there's twenty allotted spots, so
Speaker 6: sign up now. Where this is going is Cincy Scoop
Speaker 6: is partnering with Ryan Geist, which is a really really
Speaker 6: great space to do this in, and they're having this
Speaker 6: paper plane competition and the top three people are gonna
Speaker 6: get really cool prizes, nice and to lay on the plane.
Speaker 6: What you're gonna do is you're gonna roll up. You're
Speaker 6: gonna register. So register now. If you go to Cincy
Speaker 6: Scoops and you check out their channel, which is really
Speaker 6: great on Instagram. Yeah, it'll have a link to the event.
Speaker 6: You can sign up that way. But you'll roll up
Speaker 6: at five. It's five thirty to eight thirty. Register at
Speaker 6: five thirty, and then you have an hour to build
Speaker 6: your paper plane, so you don't get to go out
Speaker 6: and row the hour, only an hour. An hour to
Speaker 6: build your paper plane, hang out, drakes of beer whatever.
Speaker 6: So then you start throwing at six thirty to take
Speaker 6: an hour to bid? Do I mean you have to
Speaker 6: show up your bilding folding.
Speaker 3: It's a sheet. It's like an eight x ten notebook.
Speaker 1: Science.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a science. This is sciety. I want
Speaker 3: a couple of these, have you?
Speaker 5: Yes? I have?
Speaker 1: Why does that not surprise me?
Speaker 3: Love paper planes.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that story here in a second.
Speaker 2: I'm majored in that that teacher's talking to make a
Speaker 2: paper airplane.
Speaker 1: That and making ramen out of a coffee pot.
Speaker 5: H I got it.
Speaker 2: That's my job. That's what I do. That's my contribution.
Speaker 2: I'm behind the scenes guy here.
Speaker 1: The DIY have.
Speaker 3: Right, nice? So there's prizes, it's yes, go.
Speaker 1: And hang out.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. You know,
Speaker 6: if you're not participating, it's a free event. Drinks of beer,
Speaker 6: cheer on some people. Yeah, so you'll go. If you
Speaker 6: are participating, again, register now. You'll have an hour whenever
Speaker 6: after you register till six point thirty to build your plane.
Speaker 6: And then you're gonna have two chances. And it's whoever
Speaker 6: and you're throwing it too, So whoever goes the furthest.
Speaker 1: Wins and you're gonna have different rounds in different series.
Speaker 2: That's tough because the bro you got all those cross
Speaker 2: drafts and things. Yeah, be really careful.
Speaker 6: Really, they have those big ass I know.
Speaker 2: It's like, well they'll have those offices. You wouldn't go
Speaker 2: very far and you got a chance. Well, I mean
Speaker 2: twenty it seems like a lot of people are gonna
Speaker 2: register and they just draw twenty names.
Speaker 6: Well, so they have it's the first twenty two register.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm talking about it right now. But I
Speaker 6: think it could still be a really fun event to
Speaker 6: go to. And here's my thing. If I were to
Speaker 6: be rolling in the aisles of staples, you know there
Speaker 6: are different weights of paper.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 7: What's the weight?
Speaker 2: You gotta get the right weight you can't really use
Speaker 2: like cardboard. But then I got, you know, good old
Speaker 2: that maybe just a little heavier bond than notebook paper.
Speaker 2: Seems to you got a little stiffness with a rigidity,
Speaker 2: but you got you got the weight factor.
Speaker 1: Too, And how many different ways can you find?
Speaker 3: Also, what's the humidity in that room? You gotta look
Speaker 3: at that.
Speaker 2: In the temperature, those are big factors there, prevailing winds,
Speaker 2: cross breezes. You've got a lot going on there. How
Speaker 2: many people if.
Speaker 1: You have condensation from the beer on the glass on your.
Speaker 2: Hands, gonna throw things off, really off, throw off your throat.
Speaker 3: A lot of improblems. You got a factor in there.
Speaker 2: This is life or death here, missus ge aviation. All right,
Speaker 2: so that's a couple of weeks away. What do we
Speaker 2: got closer though?
Speaker 6: All right, well to just launch off the weekend.
Speaker 1: We've got the Cincinnati Cyclones.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 6: They're back, looking forward to that starting tomorrow, their big
Speaker 6: home opener against.
Speaker 1: The Wheeling West Virginia Nailers.
Speaker 6: Uh and the first five thousand Cyclones fans, they're gonna
Speaker 6: get a calendar. So that's gonna be their giveaway, their
Speaker 6: season calendar. I'm sure they donna have two dollars hot.
Speaker 3: Dogs, all right, all right, and beer.
Speaker 1: Okay, it starts at seven thirty at It's bank. Let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go trying to drop the puck.
Speaker 2: I love it hockey seasons. Here is watching some puck
Speaker 2: the other night, as a matter of fact, So I
Speaker 2: love this. I love this Tammy year.
Speaker 1: And it's cuffing season.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you something else about the arena.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 3: So one of the top is this week was hey, the.
Speaker 2: Arena, And now all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: Msa says, you know, I think on second, remember the review,
Speaker 2: we can probably put it where the old arenas. Seems
Speaker 2: like somebody, I don't know, being Italian, maybe predisposed to this,
Speaker 2: but it's like somebody may be made like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna put the arena where in the old spot is?
Speaker 2: Why do you figure out how to make it work?
Speaker 2: Why do you do a study and come up with
Speaker 2: what we want? Because there's a lot of money down
Speaker 2: on the banks and people want to but but also like, okay,
Speaker 2: well then you got to blow up Heritage Bank Center.
Speaker 2: So then where does a clon where would the Clones
Speaker 2: play for probably two seasons?
Speaker 1: What is sports plus?
Speaker 2: You can't yeah play the sports plus. My nephew played
Speaker 2: hockey and been tons of games at sports plus. You
Speaker 2: can get like a hundred people there. Maybe could you
Speaker 2: do it ross a river at in northern Kentucky?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 3: Maybe could you do?
Speaker 2: You have to bring portable ice. I suppose you can
Speaker 2: lay that surface down anywhere.
Speaker 6: Could you change Great American into a No. I don't
Speaker 6: think they're going to create a bubble somehow. There's a
Speaker 6: clearly enough field. You know how Cincinnatians are with weather
Speaker 6: the big NHL game outside.
Speaker 3: One game in every game.
Speaker 1: This could be our time to make the news.
Speaker 6: If we want Cincinnati on the map, we need to
Speaker 6: see the dedication of these fans. We're gonna build an
Speaker 6: ice rink a Great American and we're gonna have a
Speaker 6: season long of games outside.
Speaker 2: I thought, least you know people are shaking their head
Speaker 2: gun but never mind well at any of them.
Speaker 3: Of course, of.
Speaker 2: Course you want to. I guess you could just leave
Speaker 2: the rink up at Funtain Square.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a dumb idea.
Speaker 3: We're on these skating three guys. We're to have a
Speaker 3: Fountain Square.
Speaker 1: I think we can figure it out.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be one on one hockey.
Speaker 1: What other indoor or.
Speaker 2: Well you've got North Northlanders up there. But again, these
Speaker 2: are these are just you know, they're sheets. I would
Speaker 2: have to say you'd probably have to do it in
Speaker 2: northern Kentucky would be the only place. I can't think
Speaker 2: anywhere someone said, well i'll have it up in date
Speaker 2: and you can play a date and like it's too fie.
Speaker 6: That is the tricky part of this because that location
Speaker 6: truly is ideal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, in order to to make it.
Speaker 2: Happen, all right, but that's again future stuff like paper airplanes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you said coffing season is you know, it means right
Speaker 2: that you meet up with someone and then you break
Speaker 2: up by right after a Valentuch.
Speaker 6: It's really the convenience of weather, as we just said,
Speaker 6: as it starts to get cooler in October, it's probably
Speaker 6: like October to February.
Speaker 1: If you're getting lonely, you know, the days are.
Speaker 2: Shorter, like a booty call with a little bit more romances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with a little bit more romance.
Speaker 6: But where it gets tricky is if you decide to
Speaker 6: pair up with someone that you're like, well, the holidays
Speaker 6: are here, but you're.
Speaker 1: Not good enough to take around the family.
Speaker 6: You can figure that out, but you can lay those
Speaker 6: logistics out early. It's cuffing season, but you could take
Speaker 6: your plus one to the Cyclones game or maybe a
Speaker 6: pumpkin Fest because that's also.
Speaker 1: Happening this weekend.
Speaker 6: Braxton h pretty much every year they launched their pumpkin
Speaker 6: beer and they par they pair with graters and so
Speaker 6: they're doing it's called Pumpkin Patch and it's limited supply,
Speaker 6: so all weekend long. And this is the Braxton in Covington, seventeenth,
Speaker 6: eighteenth and nineteenth and they're having things going on all weekend.
Speaker 3: Have you heard of I do enjoy the beers this time?
Speaker 5: You like that.
Speaker 2: I like the pumpkin EA beer, some blueberry and yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not a big is this craft beer guy? No,
Speaker 2: I don't mind it.
Speaker 3: They're pretty good actually. And then there was some of
Speaker 3: the winter loggers and stuff.
Speaker 6: Is this an age thing because just a couple of
Speaker 6: years ago it's pretty anti flavor beers.
Speaker 2: No, No, And I'm like an anti flavor bit it's
Speaker 2: not my preference. I My go to would just be
Speaker 2: a can of bring it over like the culture or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I mean yeah, like I wouldn't sit there and wow,
Speaker 2: I'm going to drink two or three of these. I
Speaker 2: mix it up a little bit, but something by a
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like the Bourbon Out
Speaker 2: beer that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: The Crisp Bear Yeah.
Speaker 6: With Akin Ale and this is your time Braxton Grater's collab.
Speaker 6: So if you head over, if you're in Comington today,
Speaker 6: actually in particular, would be a great day to go
Speaker 6: because have you ever heard of Wicked Designs? So, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, you got to check him out on social somewhere.
Speaker 6: This is the guy that carves crazy, elaborate pumpkin designs.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I've seen those guys before, like before they
Speaker 2: intro to the football game and they have yeah and.
Speaker 6: Then Michael Pumpkin, yes your face and looks identical to
Speaker 6: your face. So he's going to be there today from
Speaker 6: six to nine doing pumpkin carvings.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have live music all weekend long.
Speaker 6: And then they're gonna do a pino pellette pino Pellette
Speaker 6: pumpkin painting station. Say that ten times past Saturday from
Speaker 6: noon to four. So that's just like a fun daytime thing,
Speaker 6: a little Sunday Funday. So the Braxton Brewing Company com
Speaker 6: confess over in cof Covington.
Speaker 1: Check it out. Also, if you're in Commington, are you
Speaker 1: are you a tea drinker at all?
Speaker 3: That really maybe iced tea?
Speaker 1: Have you had Macha?
Speaker 3: That's the one the looks like it's it's very green,
Speaker 3: h okay? Is that what? I don't even know what
Speaker 3: that is? My daughter loves that.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, I Maacha with stuff with
Speaker 2: It's like dessert with tea in it.
Speaker 3: That stuff a Mason that does that. It's the Parisian
Speaker 3: slash Vietnamese bakery.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's okay.
Speaker 6: The americanized version of it is turning it into a
Speaker 6: latte and dumping a whole bunch of sugar into it.
Speaker 6: But at its core, Macha is a green tea. It's
Speaker 6: a powdered green tea. But where I'm going with this?
Speaker 6: Also in Covington, Uh, there's a place called Little Macha
Speaker 6: that opened up and it was a really popular pop
Speaker 6: up spot for a long time and they finally got
Speaker 6: a brick and mortar and it's right by Smoke Justice,
Speaker 6: So it's new development area. Yeah, Asian known and sourced
Speaker 6: from small farms in Japan, and they serve three different types,
Speaker 6: three or four different types of tea. They do Macha, Hochi, jaw,
Speaker 6: and then Jen Macha. I have not had the or
Speaker 6: the gen mancha, but a lot of people know macha.
Speaker 6: So it's a finely powdered green tea and you like,
Speaker 6: crush it up, give me some Lipton, it's good. Here's
Speaker 6: the thing, and then you get sweeten it up. You
Speaker 6: can put it like cream, cream and sugar and turn
Speaker 6: it into a latte and do the whole thing. You
Speaker 6: can also make it. They do these macha classes, which
Speaker 6: is fun. But I'm bringing this up too because holidays
Speaker 6: are right around the corner, and if you know somebody
Speaker 6: that enjoys tea, they do little gift sets and things
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 1: That could be a good idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe grandma.
Speaker 1: Or your mom.
Speaker 3: All right, and put that down from Michelle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of good health benefits.
Speaker 1: So cold, it's chilly, and it's good for brain functions.
Speaker 3: Surely I have a nice cup of tea.
Speaker 2: Come on, my mom was a nice cup of tea.
Speaker 2: Late I'm a nice cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Tea is good for you.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not that.
Speaker 2: Once in a great while, maybe I'll have some tea
Speaker 2: especially okay, like maybe it's late afternoon. I got my
Speaker 2: caffeine cut off about four o'clock, yep, and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I need something more. My dcaf tea they're a lot
Speaker 2: more decaff toffee.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have a teacher.
Speaker 2: I look at a box of tea's in there, and
Speaker 2: I look through and I go, I'm looking for the
Speaker 2: one that's caffeine free and whatever looks caffeine free.
Speaker 3: Like I think this is caffeine free.
Speaker 2: I have that one, yeah, yeah, or like I don't
Speaker 2: know cinnamon or I know that, like black tea is
Speaker 2: not to make this racist, but the black tea's got
Speaker 2: a lot of caffeine in it.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the white tea.
Speaker 1: Is there white tea?
Speaker 2: The macha, I don't know about that. I'm like green
Speaker 2: tea has a little caffeine.
Speaker 3: I think. I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: The green teas where it's at.
Speaker 3: It's good. I'm just looking for straight up decaf.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 2: When I drink tea, it's going to be like a
Speaker 2: decaf or if I'm sick, you gotta tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the it's the ginger lemon ones for me
Speaker 1: because it.
Speaker 3: Helps your throat to orange water.
Speaker 1: Something that's good for you. Okay, there you go, little Macha.
Speaker 6: So if you're over there and then maybe pop over
Speaker 6: to smoke Justin's and have a bourbon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, we do have
Speaker 2: of that, now, don't you're Macha Bourbon Perry. Yeah, yeah, matcha.
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna do that at some point. Somebody like a
Speaker 2: white tea cocktail. I've seen those before. I had one,
Speaker 2: but oh.
Speaker 1: You know what, you actually bring a really good point.
Speaker 6: Some of my favorite cocktails over the last year or
Speaker 6: so are the ones who start and have a base
Speaker 6: of tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Michelle had one the other day. I don't forget where
Speaker 2: where it was, but I knew it had tea in it.
Speaker 1: Hot to.
Speaker 15: I don't know, this is hot, Toddy, we're approaching hot. Yeah,
Speaker 15: you need the bourbon up. Doesn't that get rid of
Speaker 15: the alcohol? What's the point?
Speaker 6: No, because you you make the tea first. It's fine.
Speaker 6: It's tea and bourbon.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just drinking the bourbon. I'm not drinking.
Speaker 2: Bourbon coffee, Macha bourbon.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I just give it a bourbon.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do a warm like a warm bourbon cocktail.
Speaker 3: The bourbon tea. Just hold the bird, hold the tea.
Speaker 3: I just I'll just take the bourbon.
Speaker 2: Ali Martin at the Local Loop of course, check out
Speaker 2: her YouTube channel to the Local Loop and also at
Speaker 2: Ali Martine on social She's always got stuff going on
Speaker 2: over there. All right, you have a great weekend, always
Speaker 2: good catching up who day and think about your paper
Speaker 2: airplane design. I will yeah, engineering mind going, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I would be. I think exactly all right,
Speaker 2: So lots of fun stuff is always with al. Thanks again,
Speaker 2: appreciate you. We got to get Willy on the way
Speaker 2: in just a few minutes. He'll be wrapping up the
Speaker 2: big Bengals went last night, And of course we've got
Speaker 2: news on the way in just a few minutes. A
Speaker 2: fatal shooting last night, and that would be overshadowing everything
Speaker 2: I believe in.
Speaker 3: The Bengals won.
Speaker 2: We just need some good news and the good news
Speaker 2: is the weekends here in the Bengals one. So we'll
Speaker 2: leave it at that and pump the brakes just ahead.
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