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Speaker 1: From the sixty five to one carpet. Next Day Install Studios,

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Speaker 1: John Justice on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: and one oh three five FM Wepe. We had a

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Speaker 1: great weekend, Sam and the Master Control Booth.

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Speaker 2: This morning we have.

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Speaker 1: Elliott Ingen representative. He'll be in studio right around seven

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Speaker 1: thirty this morning. Busy week this week, David Gartenstein Ross

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Speaker 1: a bit of a preview. He'll be making an appearance

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the show at six thirty. We'll talk artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Already pulling some articles for that conversation. Also, a candidate

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Speaker 1: for Attorney General running against Keith Ellison, Ron Shoots, will

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Speaker 1: be in studio tomorrow morning at seven thirty. So busy

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Speaker 1: week ahead. More have more guests lined up later on

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Speaker 1: in the show as well. Department of Homeland Security Secretary

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Speaker 1: Christy nom did not mince words during her visit to

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Speaker 1: the Twin Cities on Friday. She believes the policies and

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Speaker 1: rhetoric of Governor Tim Walls and Minneapolis Man Baby Mayor

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Speaker 1: Mom Jeans Jacob Frye opposing federal efforts to arrest, it

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Speaker 1: and deport illegal immigrants with criminal records, has led to

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Speaker 1: more violent crime in recent years, saying under the leadership

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Speaker 1: of Mayor Fry, under the leadership of Governor Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: more violent crimes are being perpetuated because of their refusal

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Speaker 1: to defend American citizens. The press conference took place at

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Speaker 1: the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal Billing at Fort Snelling on

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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. There was a post that Christy Nome's team

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Speaker 1: put up with some quotes relating to Minneapolis Mambab mayor

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Speaker 1: Mom Jeans Jacob Frye. They spelled this name wrong. They

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Speaker 1: spelled that fr Y instead of fr e Y, to

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Speaker 1: which Jacob fry responded to correct them. I had to

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Speaker 1: chuckle a little bit because out of everything that Christinoams

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Speaker 1: said while she was here, that's.

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Speaker 2: The thing that he keyed in on. Thought it was

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Speaker 1: The former South Dakota governor's visits was part of the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration's effort working off the article from Alphanus to

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Speaker 1: highlight the work that ICE is doing removing the worst

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Speaker 1: of the worst from the streets. DHS published a list

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Speaker 1: of some of the criminal illegal aliens who have been

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Speaker 1: arrested by ICE in the Twin Cities area, including repeat

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Speaker 1: child sex abusers, murderers, drunk drivers, and violent assailants. One individual,

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Speaker 1: Aldrin Guerrero Munos, been incarcerated since two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: for the intentional murder of his three month old son.

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Speaker 1: According to DHS, he was just taken into custody by

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Speaker 1: ICE this past week. So since January, DHS has arrested

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Speaker 1: and deported more than five hundred and fifteen thousand illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens across the country, according to Home, emphasizing that those

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Speaker 1: arrested we're breaking our laws. Seventy percent of the individual's

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Speaker 1: ICE has deported since January had pending or criminal charges

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Speaker 1: against them. No Men shifted to expressing her frustration with

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Speaker 1: Walls for his lack of cooperation and antagonistic rhetoric towards

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Speaker 1: ICE officers. I think starting by calling our law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officers Nazis and the Gestapo would be just about the

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Speaker 1: worst thing you could ever do, said Nome. When you

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Speaker 1: have someone who has taken an oath to give their

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Speaker 1: life and to defend communities and defend this country and

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Speaker 1: their constitution, that's a horrible thing to say. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard him apologize for it either, but if he would

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Speaker 1: assign agreements with us to have our backs out on operations,

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Speaker 1: that he would help with the safety and security of

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Speaker 1: our federal officers when you're there out there protecting people

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Speaker 1: and making sure that we're focused on getting the worst

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Speaker 1: That would be absolutely wonderful. That would be a sea change,

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Speaker 1: that would be fundamental. And then she went on to

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Speaker 3: Don't know how he sleeps at night. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how he goes to bed knowing that he's letting these

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Speaker 3: the next day. I hope that the next family who

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Speaker 3: doesn't have to put up with a governor like that.

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome coming to Minnesota to talk about these issues

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Speaker 1: is another example of and I don't know if we've

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Speaker 1: if we're simply still turning the ship in.

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Speaker 2: The right direction. But add it to the list of.

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Speaker 1: Possible positive signs that not everything is lost here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe that everything's lost here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: We're in rough.

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Speaker 1: Shape, and we need some wholesale changes in these upcoming elections.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this further, relating to the fraud

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Speaker 1: with Elliot Ingen when he joins me in studio representative

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Speaker 1: after seven thirty this morning. But you look at what

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Speaker 1: we've been covering on the show of local media outlets

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Speaker 1: that are doing now comprehensive reporting on fraud. CBS had

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Speaker 1: was voter fraud within the Somali community and specifically pointing

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Speaker 1: at a precarious date in that documentary. The people here,

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Speaker 1: the voters here in Minnesota, are giving ample opportunities to

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Speaker 1: see the truth, more.

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Speaker 2: So than they ever have in the past.

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Speaker 1: And that is the only way that we are going

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Speaker 1: to be able to get the change necessary to hope

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Speaker 1: again elect better individuals into positions of power so that

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Speaker 1: we can start heading in the right direction. It may

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Speaker 1: not happen this election. I pray that it does happen

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Speaker 1: this election, but we are better positioned now than we

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Speaker 2: Let me play you another quick clip.

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Speaker 1: I want to keep on Christy Nome, but I have

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Speaker 1: to add it to the commentary of what I'm doing here.

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Speaker 1: Dustin Gregie, conservative commentator, Friend of the show. He posted

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Speaker 1: this of Republican Legislator Michael Holstrom.

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Speaker 2: He was at a recent event.

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Speaker 1: And he was talking about how there's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as a moderate Democrat in Minnesota. You had Indivisible activists

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Speaker 1: who were there at this particular event who are gofaing

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Speaker 1: over what he was saying, but he was speaking the

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll start with saying, once again, there really isn't

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Speaker 4: a moderate Democrat. You can say that house Child up

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Speaker 4: in the iron range and a moderate you're.

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Speaker 2: A right, please, we need main thing, all right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about anybody. Senator house Child voted for

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Speaker 4: from abortion. That's something they supported. He also voted to

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Speaker 4: in the chamber. This is not moderate votes when it matters,

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Speaker 4: There's no such thing as a moderate Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with him. And to that moderate

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Speaker 1: have loved to have heard who that individual who shouted,

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Speaker 1: I'm a moderate Democrat. Who they're actually supporting, what policies

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Speaker 1: They just can't singing a moderate Democrats. Hundreds gathered outside

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Speaker 1: protest the presence of the Secretary of Homeland Christy Nome.

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Speaker 1: This is an article from the Minnesota Reformer. Many protesters

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Speaker 1: feared gnomes of presence signaled the beginning of a large

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Speaker 1: scale immigration enforcement effort like the one launched in Chicago

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Speaker 2: Man, one can only hope that would take place here.

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Speaker 5: Oh hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now the Minnesota Reformer does something in this that they

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Speaker 1: But dozens of clergy members attended the protest, leading demonstrators

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Speaker 1: through songs like this is the light of.

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Speaker 2: Mind, and we shall not be moved.

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Speaker 1: A bishop at Episcopal Church in Minnesota preached a message

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Speaker 1: of inclusion, saying, as long as I have breath, I

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Speaker 1: stronger and that there is no clearer moral imperative than

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Speaker 1: standing with the immigrant and the outsider, because that is

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Speaker 1: how God has embraced every single one of us, said

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Speaker 1: the bishop. First off, I'm glad there are protesters there

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Speaker 1: because it just raises the profile of Christy Noom and

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Speaker 1: which provides the opportunity for people to see what Christy

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Speaker 1: Nooma is saying and basically see the truth.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way you're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: But I chuckle at how these local leftist out outlets

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Speaker 1: comments coming from the Christian religious community, but only when

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Speaker 1: they will include them in articles, they will quote them positively,

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Speaker 1: they will look to them as being the examples. But

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Speaker 1: if you end up being a Christian and you side

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Speaker 1: with Trump. Oh, you're a Christian nationalist. There's a great

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Speaker 1: example of this and a piece by the strip's resident

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Speaker 1: anti Christian propagandist Karen tolkienan amid the burning down of government.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget hungry people.

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Speaker 1: Conservative Christians often say the charity should come from the church,

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Speaker 1: not the state. They may be getting their wish of course,

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Speaker 1: this is all a pushback on the shutdown, which is

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Speaker 1: the Democrat's fault. But don't think for a second that

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Speaker 1: So I want to bring you more from this article

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Speaker 1: relating to the protests, and we'll get to your talkbacks

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Speaker 6: John interesting comment from the bishop that you quoted earlier

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Speaker 2: As soon as they enter earthly political comment, they are

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Speaker 2: rightly justified. Religious leaders quote unquote should.

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Speaker 6: Worry about eternal issues interesting, not earthly temporary issues as

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Speaker 6: soon as they do, they're open to criticism, just like

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Speaker 6: everybody else.

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Speaker 2: John the so called clergy, they're masquerading. They don't even

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Speaker 7: The bishop wants to include illegal criminals that are here illegally.

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Speaker 7: Perhaps the church can pay for them instead of the

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Speaker 7: federal government in the state. Brandy with the rocks and

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: That's the unfortunate aspect here is that the arguments you hear,

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Speaker 1: for example, from this bitch of this bishop of the

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Speaker 1: from the piece that I was sharing with Christy Nomes,

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Speaker 1: DHS secretary the press conference protesters arrived there. I'm working

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Speaker 1: out of this Minnesota Reformer article. The point I made

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Speaker 1: positively quote from faith leaders in the religious community when

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Speaker 1: it's beneficial to Democrats. But the comments made by the

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Speaker 1: bishop here, you know, they take the issue completely out

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Speaker 1: of context. What Christy Naomas talking about are those that

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Speaker 1: the country illegally. It has nothing to do with diversity.

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Speaker 1: shape or form. The bishop is right, the Church should

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Elliott. How are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 8: How about yourself? It's nice to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good see you. Thanks so much for coming

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Speaker 1: Well, and I you know, I mentioned this earlier when

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Speaker 9: Well, and so many people actually think that you're wearing

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Speaker 9: In twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, John.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that drives me crazy when people who call them

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Speaker 10: Talk about we got to take care of.

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Speaker 2: These illegal aliens.

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Speaker 12: Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've done this commentary, but

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Speaker 1: from the iHeartRadio app. When it comes to compassion, compassion

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Speaker 1: do is what President Donald Trump is doing regarding illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: That's real and true compassion, you know. And I'd like

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Speaker 12: They do.

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Speaker 1: They often don't get the coverage that the Left gets

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Speaker 9: You just hit the nail on the head. I mean

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Speaker 8: We don't talk about that enough.

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Speaker 9: We don't talk about the fact that three hundred and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Representative Elliott Ingen has joined us in the studio

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Speaker 1: running for state auditor.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that with him next.

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Speaker 1: If you have any questions, we already have a few

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Speaker 2: Studios my name Is John.

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Speaker 1: Justice sam is in the master control booths this, morning

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Speaker 1: Legislator i'm working off the outa news cheat sheet out

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Speaker 1: of a White bear, township launching his campaign for state

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Speaker 1: auditor last. Week representative At Elliott, ingen thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming In, elliott good to see.

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Speaker 8: You great to be, here, Man thanks for having.

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Speaker 2: Me why are you doing? This oh my, gosh where

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Speaker 8: Start myself that exact same.

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Speaker 9: Question but at the end of the, DAY i can't

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Speaker 9: in the machine in The house Of, representatives trying to

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Speaker 9: Within it doesn't want to, change it doesn't want to fix,

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Speaker 9: that's what The State Auditor's office. Affords and you, know

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Speaker 9: at the end of the, DAY i don't have a CPA's.

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Speaker 1: Towards, WELL i do have a follow of the show

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Speaker 12: Brainerd question For Elliott Engen, elliott if elected state, auditor

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Speaker 12: you'd be the youngest elected official in state history to

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Speaker 9: Also worked today in my. Life but let's take it

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Speaker 8: Youngest in state. History, yes that's.

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Speaker 8: Politics right? Now that's one hundred percent what we're.

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Speaker 8: They're doing just the.

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Speaker 9: as if they're, doing you, know something that's of benefit

442
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 9: for the, taxpayer when in reality it is nothing other

443
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 9: than A ponzi.

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Speaker 2: Scheme what hasn't in your mind.

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00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: The auditor been, doing you, know the current, auditor what's,

446
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: been what's Been what would be like your biggest complaint

447
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: right now relating to you, know all the issues of

448
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: fraud that we've been talking about in the, State but

449
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Speaker 1: what would be your biggest complaint about the current auditor?

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Speaker 9: Serving we have nation leading fraud And Julie blaha has

451
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 9: been extremely. Miia you don't even know what she's doing

452
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 9: alf the time unless she's rolling over a van with

453
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 9: a white.

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00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 8: Claw associated with.

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Speaker 9: It and What i'm so sick of is hearing democrats, say,

456
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 9: well you don't even know what the office.

457
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 8: Does you don't know what the job duties.

458
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 9: Are, YES i, do BUT i also know that job

459
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 9: duties you can go above and beyond. Them and there's

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Speaker 9: nowhere in section six point zh two of The State

461
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 9: constitution or of The State statute that lays out the

462
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 9: constitutional authority of The office of The auditor that says

463
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 9: that you can't also look into the forensic auditing of state,

464
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 9: Agencies that you can't also look into the contract a

465
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 9: nngos that those state agencies are working, with that you

466
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 9: can't dive deeper and coordinate and partner with THE bca

467
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 9: in their Fraud Prevention, unit with the federal, investigators with county,

468
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 9: attorneys with. Sheriffs we should be playing an active role

469
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 9: in preventing fraud in a proactive, manner not just in

470
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 9: a reactive. Manner and it's not even reactive. ANYMORE i,

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00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 9: mean that would be a bare minimum If Julie blaja

472
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 9: and The democrats have done that over the past six.

473
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 9: Years but the only time that they talked about fraud

474
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 9: is right about now because it's an electoral issue and

475
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 9: it's something that the public knows far too much. About

476
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 9: and so if nobody had said anything and this we're

477
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 9: all still under the, table we're all still hush, hush

478
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 9: they'd be doing absolutely nothing about.

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00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: It expectations on if A democrat were to go and

480
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: retain the. Seat Julie blaja is not running for a third.

481
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: TERM i know you've Got Representative Dan. Wolgelmont he's announced

482
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: he's going to. Run we Have Fergus falls Mayor Ben,

483
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: shearer he's announced he's going to. Run but you, know

484
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: if A democrat gets back into this position, again talking

485
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: With Representative Elliott, INGEN i mean expectations on how they're

486
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: going to handle. It and why do you Think Julie

487
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: blaha isn't isn't running?

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Speaker 9: Again, WELL i also wouldn't run for reelection If i'd

489
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 9: overseen the state's largest fraud scheme in the. Nation and

490
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 9: also if A democrat were to retain this, office what

491
00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 9: you'd end up seeing is the pretend guys of actually

492
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 9: solving the, issue but in, reality you wouldn't be doing.

493
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 9: Anything you just come out and talk about fraud a little,

494
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 9: bit but only when it benefits your own. Side and

495
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 9: a state auditor should be completely one hundred percent neutral

496
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 9: and independent and call out fraud wherever they see, it

497
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 9: whether it's on The republican side or The democrat, side

498
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 9: and there's plenty on both to talk. About but you,

499
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 9: know over the past six, years While democrats are overseeing

500
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 9: the entire state, government they've been doing it for their own.

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00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 9: Benefit and you, Know Dan, wolgamont it might be a nice,

502
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 9: guy but at the end of the, Day democrats have

503
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 9: been drunk at the wheel in overseeing. Fraud don't hand

504
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 9: the keys over To Dan.

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Speaker 1: Wolgemont talk a little bit about your decision to run

506
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Speaker 1: for state. Auditor how long have you been have you

507
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: been considering? This was there a moment in time that

508
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: sort of Went, okay Now i'm NOW i KNOW i

509
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: need to do.

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00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 9: This, yeah it's it's been quite a few months in

511
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 9: the making and a lot of, prayers a lot of

512
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 9: discussions with my. Wife, obviously it throws a big wrench

513
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Speaker 9: into the plans of what a summer looks, like what

514
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 9: campaigning looks, like what life looks. Like and SO i

515
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 9: wanted to make sure THAT i was doing this for

516
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 9: the right. Reasons AND i really feel like i am

517
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 9: because having sat in The Minnesota house for the past

518
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 9: three and a half, years What i've watched is the

519
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 9: appearance of a representative, Government but really it.

520
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 8: Isn't it's the idea of.

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00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 9: One it makes people think that they have a, voice

522
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 9: that their representative is going up there and advocating on their.

523
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 9: Behalf but there's really only a handful of people that

524
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 9: make the big, decisions and everybody else is just kind

525
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 9: of that cognitive machine who has a button to, press

526
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 9: but everything's already been kind of done for.

527
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 8: Them AND i don't like.

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00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 9: THAT i didn't get up go up To Saint paul

529
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 9: to pretend to be a, legislator to live action role

530
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 9: play the idea THAT i can make. CHANGE i really

531
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 9: want to make change an institute good integrity driven, policies

532
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 9: AND i know now that that's not the institution to

533
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 9: do it, in but in The State auditor's, role you

534
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 9: can make sure that that happens and really go to

535
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 9: the bully pulpit and let the public know what's going

536
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 9: on behind closed.

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00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: Doors Representative Elliot ingen joins us in studio running For State.

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00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: Auditor let's go back to The iHeartRadio app and we'll

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: hear from A.

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Speaker 13: Judy good, Morning john And. Elliott thank You elliott for

541
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 13: running For state. Auditor and To eric FROM, brainerd you

542
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 13: don't need to have any kind of a relationshire or

543
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 13: experience to go in and see where there's. FRAUD i

544
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 13: worked a lot with programs in some of my career

545
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 13: roles where we did. Auditing you don't need to have

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00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 13: any kind of special whatever you can see you when

547
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 13: somebody scam and. Money it's pretty easy to go through

548
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 13: and look and so far nobody's done anything about.

549
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: It so what's your?

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00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 8: Answer one hundred? Percent you need common, sense you need two.

551
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 9: Legs you need to be able to walk up to

552
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 9: a site that's getting eleven point eight million dollars and, say,

553
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 9: hey it doesn't look like there's a single kid being served.

554
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: Here, well and.

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00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: You look at we covered last week On, friday the

556
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: editorial that came out From Jim nobles just playing out

557
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: how many individuals and drivemouth this, morning how many individuals

558
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: within the legislature and WITHIN dhs we're aware of what

559
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: was going, on and they, simply you, know look the other.

560
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Way i've heard anecdotally, this you, know these this, commentary these,

561
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: suggestions and then you see an individual Like Jim nobles

562
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: step out and say, no this is you, know this

563
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: was actually happening and lay it. Out and As Representative

564
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Max rymer relayed On, friday you, Know Jim nobles was

565
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: a ball and strikes kind of.

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00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Guy he would just call it as he as he sees.

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: IT i hope it's not too, little too, late but

568
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: it seems as if now the fraud conversation is taking

569
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: center stage in the. State and you have even your

570
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: most left leaning in the Tank democrat outlets are you,

571
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: know jockeying a bit to have their own documentaries about.

572
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Frauds these are all good, THINGS i, mean the question

573
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: is is that actually reaching you, know, Voters AND i

574
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: guess only time will.

575
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: TELL a result of the elections will let us.

576
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 9: KNOW i really think it. Is and you, know at

577
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 9: the end of the, day that shouldn't be A republican

578
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 9: or A democrat. Issue and if you are A democrat

579
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 9: and you happen to be listening to this right, now

580
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 9: and you really do want to take care of the

581
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 9: most downtrodden amongst, us you, know the least amongst us

582
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 9: who are really struggling and falling on hard, times and

583
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 9: we have state programs we're supposed to be able to

584
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 9: help them, out you, know have a little safety, net

585
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 9: but not a hammock AS us conservatives. Like then you'd

586
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 9: want to vote for A republican for state auditor to

587
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 9: make sure that those dollars actually get to where they

588
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 9: need to, go because right now they're going.

589
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 8: Everywhere but let's.

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00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 11: Go, Here, Hey, john good, morning great, Show barry and

591
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 11: andover a question for the representative running for, auditor with

592
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 11: all of the fraud that we've had In, minnesota would

593
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 11: that be something that would have been under the state auditors?

594
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 11: Purview and if the answer is, yes were they just

595
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 11: wilfully blind to? It and if, no who should have

596
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 11: been catching?

597
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 7: That?

598
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: Thanks have a great.

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00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 9: Day so this is a terrific question because at the

600
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 9: end of the, day everybody who's been in front of

601
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 9: a microphone talking about the fraud issue within The walls

602
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 9: administration or the CURRENT dfl controlled, government they cast blame

603
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 9: to somebody. Else they always passed the buck and say

604
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 9: that's not our, job that's not our. Duty And Julie

605
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 9: blaha chief amongst, them saying, that, oh it's our job

606
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 9: to partner and work alongside municipal governments and local units

607
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 9: of government to make sure that their books are audited.

608
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 9: Correctly but at the end of the, day they also

609
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 9: are allowed to oversee federal, contracts just like feeding our.

610
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 9: FUTURE i, mean she had the purview to come out

611
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 9: three and a half years before it became a massive

612
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 9: nation leading story about fraud here In minnesota and say,

613
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 9: hey something right, Here but she. Didn't and there's a

614
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 9: multitude of ways that our office is going to expand

615
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 9: the duties and really set the new bar for what

616
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 9: it looks like to be a state. Auditor and amongst

617
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 9: them is a Fraud Prevention recovery unit within the office

618
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 9: to coordinate with those county, attorneys, sheriffs THE, bca federal,

619
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 9: investigators and the legislature to get ahead of the. Fraud

620
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 9: that's going to be the proactive. Side we're also going

621
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 9: to have an expansion of data analytics AND ai integration

622
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 9: because right now there are so many question marks that

623
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 9: legislators like myself have as to where the money's going

624
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 9: that we never get answers to and it's not able

625
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 9: to be found, purposefully if you can't get the, answer

626
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 9: then you you can't plug the holes where the boat's

627
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 9: sinking and it's. Everywhere and then we're also going to

628
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 9: be launching a statewide integrity hotline So minnesotans can partner

629
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 9: with us and being active thwarts to the. FRAUD i,

630
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 9: mean we have so many instances of people reaching out

631
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 9: even Since i've, announced probably hundreds of people, saying, hey

632
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 9: this program is. Fraudulent here's my experience with. It there's

633
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 9: no reason why we shouldn't have somebody who's dedicated to

634
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 9: feeling those questions and those, CONCERNS i mean around the.

635
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 9: Clock and if you're somebody who's going to be reporting,

636
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 9: that maybe you should actually be given a carrit.

637
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 8: Approach you should be incentivized.

638
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 9: Or rewarded for having brought us a real instance of

639
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 9: fraud that ends up gaining to a. Conviction and then

640
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 9: we're going to expand the office to also audit agencies

641
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 9: and then those NGOs that they're contracting, with because we

642
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 9: know that the nonprofits are a massive part of the.

643
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Issue over the course of the past few, Years i've

644
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: had so many people reach out to me and just

645
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: just a sort of dovetail off of what you were.

646
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Saying Representative Elliott ingen who've reached out to me and

647
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: they've talked about what you mentioned that you, know, HEY

648
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: i believe there's fraud. Here and then they take it

649
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: a step further and they'll, say AND i actually went

650
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: and brought it to people's attention that we're in positions

651
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: of power to do something about, it and it never goes,

652
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: anywhere never, does just falls on deaf.

653
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: Ears, yep it's. Incredible let's go to.

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Speaker 1: This comment from The iHeartRadio APP a question For Representative Elliott.

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Speaker 11: Ingen good, Morning, John, say could you ask Mister ingen

656
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Speaker 11: whether he believes there's A smalli component to all the

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Speaker 11: fraud widespread projects going on and your?

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Speaker 2: Soul why is?

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Speaker 5: That? Thanks, guys have a great.

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Speaker 1: Day, yeah, listen you know this is one of those

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00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: issues where we know within this community what's been transpiring

662
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: relating to the.

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Speaker 2: Fraud you can see it in the convictions that have taken.

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Speaker 1: Place there was another story by SAID cbs just over

665
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: the weekend of some voter fraud that was taking place

666
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: specifically from a group Of. Somali's it's a controversial, issue

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00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: but what are your what are your thoughts on that

668
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: component here in this community In minnesota when dealing with these.

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00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Issues, well a.

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Speaker 9: Couple of weeks, AGO i saw that there was actually

671
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 9: a pause on a program that was supposed to help, small,

672
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 9: independent small business owners and start up nonprofits Through MINNESOTA.

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00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 9: Deed AND i thought about that for a. SECOND i,

674
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 9: said why in the heck would we have one only

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00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 9: for the smaller. Community why wouldn't it be for Other

676
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 9: minnesotans as? Well why would we limit? That and why

677
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 9: have we turned such a blind eye to the fact

678
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 9: that the smaller.

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00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 8: Community who's, also by the, way being the most ripped

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00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 8: off by these instances of.

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Speaker 9: Fraud why aren't we going into those communities and talking

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Speaker 9: about those fraud reporting hotline numbers that they could be

683
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 9: calling or if they see something to say.

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Speaker 8: Something we don't do enough of that as.

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Speaker 9: Is but there also is a problem with The somali

686
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 9: community engaging in fraud as, well and we need to

687
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 9: be honest about. That we need to find ways to prevent,

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00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 9: that and prosecutions must.

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Speaker 8: Come and right, now.

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00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 9: With Keith, ellison we shouldn't hold our breath that it

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00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 9: will be all.

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Speaker 1: Right let's go more questions rolling in for you here this.

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00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Morning let's go.

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Speaker 5: Here, hey good, Morning, elliott and thank you for. RUNNING

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Speaker 5: i Remember Tim polenti tried to audit The Minnesota department

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Speaker 5: Of education and that audit got shot down by The

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: Minnesota Supreme. Court do you have any plans on doing?

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Speaker 1: That AND i want to mention, Too i've had several

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00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: people that have actually asked that same question as.

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Speaker 2: Well so one.

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Speaker 9: Hundred percent and at the end of the, day in

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 9: six point oh two of our of our state, statutes

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00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 9: which outline the constitutional offices and the authorities of the state.

704
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 9: Auditor it doesn't say anything about how we aren't allowed

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 9: to ask and really dive in to the forensic auditing

706
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 9: and books of anything that ends up trickling down.

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00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 8: To the state.

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00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 9: Level so if The department Of education receives appropriations and

709
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 9: those end up going towards AN isd an independent school,

710
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 9: district well that's at the local. Level now we can

711
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 9: start working our way up and really dive into the,

712
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 9: books and we'll find is going to be glaring because

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00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 9: right now we have reports of two billion or a.

714
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 9: Billion those are kind of the numbers that get thrown

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00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 9: around a lot for totality of. FRAUD i would estimate

716
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 9: that it's closer to eight to. Ten that would be

717
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 9: my guess off the top of my. Head it's, everywhere

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00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 9: and it trickles down to all.

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Speaker 2: Levels what are your.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts i've made this comment on the show That i'm

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Speaker 1: convinced And i'm curious your perspective as a representative serving

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Speaker 1: in the legislature and being a part of watching these

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00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: debates take. Place but if we had an administration under

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00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: the governorship that identified immediately and they saw this dramatic

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: increase in dollars being requested coming from these various entities

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00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: that we know now have turned out to be. Fraudulent

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00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: i'm convinced that if we identified that up, front that

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00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: we would end up seeing that the majority of these

729
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: programs that end up being fraudulent weren't necessary in the first.

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Speaker 1: Place would you agree with that or AM i missing

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: some nuance?

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Speaker 2: There that is.

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Speaker 9: TRUE i, mean with the amount of fraud that we've

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 9: had in the past six, years you could eliminate an

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00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 9: entire state agency here. Too but also it's so sad

736
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 9: how they use compassion as a guys for their. Corruption

737
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 9: that's typically where the fraudsters will go to try to

738
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 9: take advantage of a state, program whether it be housing stabilization,

739
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 9: services people who you know can't can't get into a,

740
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 9: home they're. Homeless people are taking advantage of. Them whether

741
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 9: it's substance abuse disorder, treatments those have been ripped off

742
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 9: With Evergreen recovery and can a number of other, programs

743
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 9: whether it be autism. CENTERS i, mean they always go

744
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 9: after the people who actually do need help and those.

745
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 9: Dollars what legislators will say, is, look those funds have

746
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 9: dried up because there's such a high, need we must

747
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 9: throw more towards. It and you, know you can't be

748
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 9: the heartless legislator who doesn't vote for. That that's what

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 9: they try to. Do they try to paint that, picture

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00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 9: but in, reality they know what they're. Doing they're setting

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00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 9: up their, friends their apparatus of.

752
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 8: You, KNOW ngo groups.

753
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 9: And friendly organizations who end up contributing to their campaigns

754
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 9: and voting for. Them they're setting them up with a

755
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 9: niche industry that only they are allowed to engage. In,

756
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 9: well the rest Of minnesotans who are living paycheck to

757
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 9: paycheck in the working class and families are the ones

758
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 9: having to foot the bill for.

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00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: This let's go back to The iHeartRadio app brought to

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00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: you By Lyndahl. Realty we'll continue with our conversation with

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: a representative elliot ing and running for State.

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Speaker 10: AUDITOR i appreciate everything your guess, is you, know talking

763
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 10: about and wanting to do to expose fraud in this,

764
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 10: state but don't you have to have a state ag

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Speaker 10: willing to Prosecute.

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Speaker 8: AND i just don't see that With.

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Speaker 10: Ellison how do you get past the fact other than,

768
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 10: say maybe the federal doj of prosecuting fraud once you find,

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00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 10: it if you have a state ag who has no

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00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 10: willingness to do, so.

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00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 8: One hundred percent.

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00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 9: Correct, now if you take a look back to The

773
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 9: feeding Our future scandal in twenty twenty two or, thereabouts

774
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 9: when it was kind of an electoral issue leading up

775
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 9: to The november election in the, midterms it wasn't until

776
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 9: people started sounding the alarm on it That Keith ellison

777
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 9: cared at.

778
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 8: All he.

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00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 9: Didn't he sat on his, Hands he let the money keep,

780
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 9: flowing and he even said in a closed door meeting

781
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 9: which was recorded and leaked audio footage would confirm that

782
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 9: he's actually going to be fighting for the. Fraudsters and

783
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 9: so it wasn't until you had somebody that alerted the

784
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 9: public that made it an issue that voters knew and

785
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 9: cared about that he took. Action and so if you

786
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 9: have a watchdog who's also able to use the bully

787
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 9: pulpit and go and alert the public of fraudulent program

788
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 9: even when others, won't that's going to be a proactive

789
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 9: thing for protecting our tax. Dollars and, secondly after they

790
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 9: won the trifecta after twenty twenty, Two Keith ellison made

791
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 9: sure that in The Judiciary Omnus bill there was a

792
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 9: change to the law that requires. Him it said shall

793
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 9: prosecute nonprofit instances of. Fraud, well, now if you look

794
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 9: in our state, statutes it says may as in he can,

795
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 9: choose pick can choose when he's going to be prosecuting.

796
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 9: That and so they're just trying to hide behind multiple

797
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 9: layers of corruption and unethical behavior that allows this to

798
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 9: happen in. Perpetuity but if you have somebody in there

799
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 9: who's willing to speak the truth wherever you find fraud

800
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 9: and alert the public to, it they're going to demand.

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00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: Action let's go back into The iHeartRadio. App we have

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00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: another question that's rolled in for A Representative Elliott, ingen.

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00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 14: Would you mind making a comment on your thoughts Of

804
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 14: Keith ellison believing That Fleet farm should have had a

805
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 14: system in place to identify a straw.

806
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 8: Buyer but he's got what like.

807
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 14: Six federal government programs at least in over two billion

808
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 14: dollars in fraud and he can't see the forest through the.

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00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Trees it's more of a statement than it is a.

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00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Question But representatively hating and what are your thoughts, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yes well.

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00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 8: That's for listeners who don't.

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 9: Know straw purchasing is when you buy a gun and

814
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 9: you're you, know you're eligible to purchase a, gun but

815
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 9: then you give it to somebody or sell it to

816
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 9: somebody who isn't and that's a crime in the state Of.

817
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 9: Minnesota and When republicans tried to increase that criminal, Penalty

818
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 9: democrats were the first to oppose it at every. Turn

819
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 9: and we also tried making it so that there weren't

820
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 9: eighty three percent of gun crimes that were either downward

821
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 9: departed pled away and lenient sentences were, given or there

822
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 9: was a prosecutor initiated sentence reduction or judicial sentence. Reduction

823
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 9: we're trying to make it so that people who actually

824
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 9: engage in violent behavior are held accountable and put behind.

825
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 9: Bars democrats have opposed that out of, return but what

826
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 9: do they want to blame?

827
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 8: Instead Fleet.

828
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 9: Farm it's just like When Keith ellison Blamed kia And

829
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 9: hyundai for carjacking. Epidemic they always need to shirk blame

830
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 9: because at the end of the, day they know that

831
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 9: their policies don't, work but they need to try to

832
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 9: convince you.

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00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Otherwise Representative Elliot ingen's going to hang out in studio

834
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: with us for a. Bit we'll continue to take your

835
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: questions if you have any for him as he runs

836
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: for state. Auditor we're going to turn our attention, though

837
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: over To Governor Tim walls the town hall that he

838
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: had over the. Weekend Former Congresswoman Gabby gifford's was there as,

839
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: well and we're going to get sort of the backstory

840
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: on what these town halls actually.

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00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Are elliot AND.

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00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: I were talking about this off the, air and he

843
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: has some really great insight relating to What walls is

844
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: actually doing with these town. Halls so we'll talk more

845
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: With Representative Elliant. Ingen we'll get to more of your.

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00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Comments talk back from The iHeartRadio app coming up On

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