1 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Head over to our contest page enter for your shot 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: at a pair of reserve tickets to an early screening 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: of The Running Man in theaters. November fourteenth, Cafe dot 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Com keyword Contests. Feeling anytime we talked about JJ Mcarthury 5 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: that I'm feeling he has mentioned the intangible part of it. 6 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: You captured one of those quotes via X your X account, 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not here to tell you that that's not 8 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: part of what any you know quarterback to be successful 9 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: has to be cooking up. It's certainly got to be 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: part of the deal. The the the the there's a 11 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: million cliches, the D factor, something extra whatever, it is, 12 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: the aura, the aura. He went even with aura though. 13 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: What's interesting about that is he's he's twelve years old. 14 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: He looks like he's twelve, which because you'd think, well 15 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: with with you know, professional football players of all different ages, 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: you go, man, that's interesting given how young he looks. 17 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: But he obviously doesn't act young in that sense according 18 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: to thelan. But I got to tell you I heard 19 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: I don't know who it was in the ESPN pregame show. 20 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm not remembered. I can't. 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: In fact, I was listening to it, so I don't 22 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: always know voices. But one of the they were talking 23 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: about the Vikings, they were talking about JJ McCarthy's return, 24 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and whoever it was, I thought was very effective in saying, look, 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I get it. 26 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: We hear so many things. 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: About how you rally around him, and he's a guy 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: you can you just feel like you could you you 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: can go to war with him, all that he says, 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I played football my whole life. I 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: get all that. That's part of the deal. But you 32 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: know what I want to find out. I want to 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: see if he can make some throws. I want to 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: see if he can make some plays once the ball 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: is snapped. That go beyond constantly talking about the intangibles 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: with him. And I thought that was an excellent observation 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: that what's happened is because he's been out. As long 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: as he's been out, what are you left to talk 39 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: about with him? 40 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Right? 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really talk about a body of work. 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: There's been no body of work at this level, So 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: you're almost stuck with even if you're a teammate, right, 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: you're almost stuck with going on because you can't say, man, 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: did I don't even know how to describe to you 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: that fade route passed, that he threw right between the numbers. 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: In practice, that's just not going to resonate with anybody. 48 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: So to me, what was important yesterday was, well, whoever 49 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: that analyst was. 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: That it had to play out, make some plays. 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: Now. 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: He didn't make them all, but he made enough of them, 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a couple of them early, and obviously the uh, the 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: big one late that saved the head coaches Bacon. Let's 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: get to on these. I don't know if he was 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: necessarily facing the blitz, but he was facing significant pressure. 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: And so I guess we call this Vikings talking point 58 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: JJ trying to show that he isn't just about intangibles. 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: He is aware that occasionally he's got to make some throws. 60 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: But the bat news is not worth third and ten. 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: You don't want to go backwards here and take points. 62 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Off the board. 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: Seven zero allions, third and ten from the Lions twenty five. 64 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: Darisaw Jackson, Brandell Fries and Brian O'Neill make up the 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: moving company. Here's a big rush on McCarthy, so he 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: throws hot right caught. Jones gets loose at the fifteenth 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: kind's his way down to the ten yard line. First down, 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: fifteen yard first down for the Vikings. Good for JJ McCarthy, 69 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: his former teammate at Michigan. Aiden Hutchinson was all over him, 70 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: so McCarthy went hot and it worked. Now, what a 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: beautifully set up play as you get Bryan O'Neil out 72 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: in the flat, kicks out the flat defender pancake them 73 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: in fact, but a perfect play as Detroit blitzing. They 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: were manned a man. They're blitzing all over the place. 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: Beautifully designed play to get the football in space. The 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones and Ja chains on a tough third and 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 3: ten head on third down, third and nine, takes the snap, 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: Lions rush four. Aiden Hutchinson cut around somebody pass deep 79 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: left and caught Yes, Jordan Addison caught it at the 80 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: seven yard line. It's a thirty one yard hit McCarthy 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison and it's person goal. 82 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: Vikings. They had him tie. 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: They had Jordan Addison on Arthur Moett haul and it 84 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: was kind of a clear round. He was just running 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: kind of a deep seven route to kind of clear 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: everything out underneath. But JJ drifting so subtly to his 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: left to extend the time in the pocket and then 88 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: gets aggressive. I'd loved that he's looking down the field 89 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: when he's moving off the spot. 90 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: That's what needs to happen, and did plays right. That's 91 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: the beauty of him being available is instead of it 92 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: constantly being projecting his intangible qualities, his intensity, the fact 93 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: that he may be a born leader, and it's easy 94 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: even if you know he's twenty two years younger than 95 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Adam Feelin. That Adam Feeling's willing to follow him among 96 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: others is ultimately the way you cement the relationship with 97 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: your teammates as you make plays right. And those were 98 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: significant plays. The first one, I think even Brady made 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the point that he he he he read extra pressure 100 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: coming and changed the play and he literally did zip 101 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the hot He threw quick almost right out of the 102 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: snap and once he got the ball to the right 103 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and Jones was a good call. Jones took full advantage 104 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: of the opportunity and instead of you know, you're you're 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: you're facing fourth down, you get the first down. That's 106 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: to me, that's the stuff that you want to see 107 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: that because the other stuff, it really even goes back 108 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of your weariness about all the you know, 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: while he was out, the stuff about the bass and 110 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: rebuilding the bass and making sure you got to get 111 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: to basse. All of this stuff is God, do we 112 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: need We just need him to play so that whatever 113 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: we observe is he made that pass. Well, no, that 114 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: pass was actually behind the receiver. Not so good in 115 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: that case. But it's about making some significant plays, which 116 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: most assuredly he did. Now, I will add that in 117 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the game he was much rougher. He 118 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: looked like he had been off for a long time. 119 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I thought their pressure got to him a little bit 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: when he as you mentioned earlier, when he threw on 121 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the run, it was not pretty. H Even JJ, who's 122 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson is biggest fan, you could tell he was 123 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: exasperated when he was wide open right to the sidelines 124 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: where it was just like, I mean, he just like 125 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: he was throwing it out of a shoot you know, 126 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: he was shooting it out of a cannon. I mean, 127 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: it was bizarre, But there were enough early and late. Now, 128 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're with me on this or not, 129 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: but I will say that if you're asking me to 130 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: rank reasons that the Vikings won the ball game. I'm 131 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: not putting the offense at the top of the list, 132 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: even if the offense did have some moments, and he 133 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: had some critic moments. To me, the tone was set 134 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: by the defense, notwithstanding the first drive of the game 135 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: where it looked like, oh, here we go again, it's 136 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: the same old deal. But after that, the defense, which 137 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: had looked pretty close to an apt against the Chargers, 138 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: an inferior offense, I might add, but also on the road, 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: played a really good game. I know a lot of 140 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: people want to think it's a lot of x's and 141 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: o's adjustments. I think it may have been. I know 142 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: I saw read Mark Craig wrote about this that he 143 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: didn't think it was necessarily any x's and o's. He 144 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: just thought they played better. They played smarter, and to 145 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: the point you made earlier about Koc, they came off 146 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: the bus intending to remind the Detroit Lions that we 147 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: are here not to play croquet, but to play football. 148 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: We will try to beat you up as well at 149 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage in a way that I think 150 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: had Detroit kind of on its heels. Tell me the 151 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: last time Jamior Gibbs has looked that average that ordinary 152 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: against I remember, and that's against. Most people will when 153 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: we have talking point related to some of those plays 154 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: on Gibbs, but to me, it was after that first drive. 155 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Really it was the defense that changed everything. 156 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: And to a certain extent, that's what we're back to. 157 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: What do you want for your kid quarterback? 158 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: Right, Well, you got to do the things around him 159 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: that gives him the best chance to succeed, to make 160 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: plays like he did a couple of them early, a 161 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: couple of them against the Blitz and then the big 162 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: one late. Right, give him a chance. How do you 163 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: give him a chance? Well, our defense is gonna be legit. 164 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let the Lions. We're not gonna put 165 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: so much pressure on him that he's gonna have to 166 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: match touchdown for touchdown in one of those forty five 167 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: to forty two kinds of games. We're not gonna ask 168 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: him to do that. We're gonna play better defense than that. 169 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna play good special teams, which they did again 170 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: time obviously returns big one of them, and you know 171 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: the touchdown ends up getting called back. But then we 172 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: also didn't we block a field goal too, We sure did. Yeah, 173 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: So you do all of the other and you run 174 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: when again I'm the head coach remembered to do it, 175 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: you get a nice little burst early. The first two 176 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: drives both started how on the ground. With Jonesy, that's 177 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: what set the tone for for both of them. 178 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: He looks great until he looked very fresh again. But now, yeah, 179 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: that's the thing, whatever it is. Yeah, is it supposed 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: to be serious? I hope not. 181 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: I heard on the post game last night. I think 182 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: that they don't expect it to be too serious. And 183 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: he was still out there, you know, still, yeah, kind 184 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: of hanging around. That's always a decent sign. But with 185 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Jonesy that packer fans told us that, right, we love 186 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: him when he's available. 187 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: Are we doing Bonus Bucks today? We can? Yeah, we 188 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: already did one. Let's do the second one. Why not? 189 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Two men and a junk truck would love us to 190 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: give you a thousand dollars. It is our Bonus Bucks 191 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: National Cash Contest and bills who looked good last night? 192 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: By the way, that's the keyword kfan dot com make. 193 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: The keyword bills. City of winners. 194 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Huh. Disastrous weekend a week ago and then everybody but 195 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: Gopher men's hockey one correct, Gophers win, right, Wild win 196 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Wolves one Friday night. 197 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: They're back in action tonight. 198 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Johnny Athletic, who's there in Brooklyn at 199 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: five point thirty. 200 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Who am I forgetting? That's it, I think. 201 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: And then, as I said, unfortunately for men's hockey got 202 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: swept again Wisconsin this time. 203 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, to seven and one. 204 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: I asked this question yesterday from the hockey community to 205 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: get an answer. Have we ever been to seven and 206 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: one in a college hockey season? 207 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: Probably, but not often? Can't be often to it? Not often? 208 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: To seven and one. I know we had a lot 209 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: of changes. 210 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I know we had a lot of new people, the 211 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: whole bit, but come on, man, uh seven six three? 212 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Guy Rights Vikings ran the ball more than they passed, 213 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: and so I think koc remember to run the ball. 214 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Nice cheap shot though well it's it really isn't intended 215 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: to be a cheap shot, and I would say the 216 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: numbers confirm that fact. The issue that I was laying 217 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: out and we were talking about earlier was when he 218 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: forgot to run the ball and it I'm not saying 219 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: we will never prove whether it might have cost him 220 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the game, but there's a possibility that it might have 221 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: cost him the game. 222 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: Don't take that for me. 223 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Take it from Tom Brady, who, by the way, he's 224 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: going to get the seal of approval later. 225 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: I think he's getting better all the time. 226 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: I really do it as he expected, and I think, yes, 227 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: his quarterback stuff. It was a perfect timing in that 228 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: you got your Vikings fan, you're excited about the you 229 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: know about McCarthy coming back. 230 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: Yep, who better than to have Brady? I think very 231 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: fairly analyze it. 232 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: And what I loved about Brady is he was complimentary, 233 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 1: but he was also not afraid to criticize. 234 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: He laid it all out. 235 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: That was a d throw. JJ's got to put that 236 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: one a little bit more up. Factly, that was a 237 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: great throw. I love what we're seeing he did. He 238 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: just sees the game. And you know what I want 239 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: from my analyst. I want him to tell me something 240 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yes, there you go, or that I'd 241 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: never heard before, and I don't think i'd ever heard 242 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: on the fumbled snap Brady talked about, I needed to. 243 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: I knew if if my center was sprinting out right 244 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: after the snap, that the ball was going to come 245 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: out a different way, and I never heard that before 246 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: unless I'm just I have recency biased and I want 247 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: Brady to do well because I thought he got. 248 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh way too much heat. 249 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thought that Tom Brady, yeah, the ultimate 250 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: improver that spent his whole life, yes, just trying to 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: get one percent better and everything was going to suck 252 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: forever at being an analyst to me was just ridiculous. 253 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: And he still does some cliche stuff. 254 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a couple of wins worthy ones, but we're 255 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: all capable of that. But people also don't tell you 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: don't go to like I know they have these broadcast 257 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: boot camps, right, you don't. And I'm sure he's getting 258 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: coached a little bit, but it's not like they sit 259 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: you down and tell you how to do everything. 260 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: You just kind of have to do it well. 261 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: No, with the key, I think I'm hoping what somebody 262 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: finally said to him as Tom, here's how you can improve, 263 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: here's where you should go, or can go with authority 264 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: like no one else. 265 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: If you need to. 266 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Just focus, if you spent eighty percent of your time 267 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: on the quarterback position, yeah, no one's going to be 268 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: mad at you for not talking about the receiver enough 269 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: or the defensive line right, because of what you can 270 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: bring to that discussion, right, And that's what I think. 271 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: It's almost like that's how he's evolving. 272 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: All Right. 273 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: I'll be the guy who's going to bring stuff up 274 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: about how you have to evolve in this position. What's good? 275 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, what's an A throw, what's a B throw, 276 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: what's the throw where? And he's not the first one 277 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: to even you know, to talk about pulling the string 278 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: on the ball and putting a little more touch on it. 279 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: But the way he laid all of this stuff out 280 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: was outstanding. 281 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: I thought he did very, very good. 282 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: And we're talking about late the talking point that we 283 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: call koc getting a little bit too cute. 284 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Let's listen. 285 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: First and goal for the Vikings, straight eye behind McCarthy, 286 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: the tailbacks Jordan Mason Andolf Mason up the middle, and 287 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: he smacked at the point of attack and it's no game, 288 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: no gain. It's in between the balls, in between the 289 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: one and the two. 290 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Run it again with. 291 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: Three timeouts for ten in county to go in the upset, 292 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, in the game, and it'll be second in 293 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: goal from the one. 294 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with running the football here one more time. 295 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Just make him use those timeouts if anything. 296 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I'm the field goal to score day and 297 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: keep the clock going. 298 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: You got about two yards to go. 299 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, this is where you could put an exclamation 300 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: point on this game if you could run this football 301 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: into the end. 302 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Zone right here. 303 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: Mason the single set, two receivers to the right, Addison 304 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: in motion to the left, second in goal. McCarthy boots 305 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: out to the right, throws to the end zone incomplete. 306 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: Garry on Arnold. 307 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: That about the best player I've ever seen him make 308 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: for Then again, I'll watch Alabama football. He was singled 309 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: up against Jefferson and he knocked it. He covered eight 310 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: team Beautifulay. But the negative here, man, is the clock's 311 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: done right, exactly right. And that's what I'm saying. It's ahead. 312 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean they're going they're going heavy jumbo now. So 313 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: now's when you you know I want to throw that football. Oh, 314 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: here comes Joe Huber. We got a jumbo back is 315 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: we got we got all the big bodies out there. 316 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: We're gonna Dan Skipper, Dan Skipper's team. Huber, the rookie 317 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: guard is to the right of O'Neill. Third and goal 318 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: tightly packed eye behind. McCarthy picks the hand off, boots 319 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: off to the left, and McCarthy runs inside the ten 320 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: of the five leaps for the end zone in is 321 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: macked out of bounds. And that was a quarterback rollout. Pop. 322 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: That was a that was a called. 323 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: Quarterback rollout because the receivers were out wide and they 324 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: would lock and it just didn't white hit home that 325 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: that Ohio State rookie Chile League Williams. I mean, props 326 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: to him running as fast as he did for a 327 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty pound man. 328 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: Wow, was that impressive? Yeah? It was. 329 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 3: And from karthy stand bounce, He's not going to hurt. 330 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: You just can't take a little more time off the clock. 331 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: There it is. Yeah, that's that's exactly it. 332 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: And Brady was was laying that out very effectively during 333 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: the TV broadcast as well, just as the very capable 334 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Pete Bursich did. 335 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: And I get the bit. 336 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: You know, you can drive yourself crazy about running or 337 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: throwing and it's always easy to second guess it when 338 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out. If the pass play had worked out, 339 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: would we give them credit? 340 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: Probably? 341 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: I would still say I'd rather not do it in 342 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: that situation. But let's face it, that's part of what 343 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: opened the door to the possibility that if you don't 344 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: get that first down, they're going to get the ball 345 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: back with plenty of time left and in only needing three. 346 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: That's the issue. 347 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure you know in Koc's mind 348 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: he's going with I want to go for the juggular, 349 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I want to touchdown here. But I would still maintain 350 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: you might have a chance be clever with a run 351 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: or two. Does does it have to be up the 352 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: middle with a run necessarily No, So I that's the issue. 353 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Even in a day where they ran effectively and ran 354 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: a bunch certainly ran more than they did against the Chargers, 355 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: which we'd all many of us have called for then 356 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: as being ridiculous. It's not about the frequency. It's also 357 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: about the timing, and that given that circumstance made absolutely 358 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think it made any any sense whatsoever. 359 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: And then again you almost have to say to your QB, 360 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: if we're going to roll you out, got to go down. 361 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: It's actually more important if it's fairly clear that you 362 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: can't get to the end zone, then you got to 363 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: go down and bounds totally as simple as that. Now, 364 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: that's but part of the reason I don't call that plays. 365 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that's fair to the player. Again, 366 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: in his first game back, you're asking a lot of 367 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: him because in his mind, he's. 368 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Going, I might be able to get there. I'm jj McCarty. 369 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: I have already gotten one scrambled touchdown run. I meditated 370 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: this five hours ago. Yes, more on that in a 371 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: minute too. That's where I think you don't give him 372 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: that choice, because that's asking a lot of him to 373 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: be able to figure that out. Because, as you say, 374 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: he's he's going to try to score there, and they 375 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: did a good job keeping him out of the end zone. 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: So that's the part that's a quibble On a day 377 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: where obviously the team was well prepared and they did 378 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: a really good job of recovering from what had taken 379 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: place previously, it is worth noting, you know, the whole 380 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: theme of the show has been the candy man can 381 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: that the sugar high that people get from a reversal 382 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: like the Vikings reversing what seemed to be their entire 383 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: season in one game is the ultimate sugar high. I mean, 384 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: it's very oopa loopa like, but I just was looking 385 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: up during the break the ESPN odds top five teams 386 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: to win the NFC to reach the Super Bowl. You 387 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: carr to guess who those five are. Top five teams 388 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: in the NFC to get to the ball to win 389 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: the NFC. Well, they're still going to have the Packers 390 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: in there, because Green Bays in there. Green Bays the 391 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: Nebraska of the NFL. Nobody can wait for them to 392 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: be good. That got a lot of pushback, by the way, 393 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: yesterday I tweeted that out. Yeah, it just hit me. 394 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Let me pull up the NFC here. Yeah, you got 395 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: to look at the teams on the same way. Eagles, Eagles, 396 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: that's two Lions, three, Tampa. No, I don't think it's Tampa, 397 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: Seattle four. I think the Rams. I think those are 398 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: the top five. We're not in the top five. No, 399 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't know where we are. Maybe we're six, maybe 400 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: we're seven or eight. The moral of the story is 401 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: that's a start. 402 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: We've only just begun. Exactly. 403 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: That was a nice game, as I say, to maybe 404 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: save your season, I think it saved it. Put this way, 405 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: I'll look at the other way. You didn't guarantee anything 406 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: for this season. I think if you'd lost, you probably 407 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: would have guaranteed that this was a rebuilding mode and 408 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: we might as well start trading oplay players at the deadline. 409 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: All of the Minnesota twitter like if if the if 410 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: the Vikings had a bullpen, they might as well gut 411 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: it if they lose that game. So all that's finding good, 412 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: but you have to sustain it, and the odds makers aren't. 413 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: They're they're real careful about the candy man and you know, 414 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: getting too seduced by the sugar high of one particular weekend. 415 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: They're saying, you got to show it a few more 416 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: times before we're going to put you in the top 417 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: five to come out of the National Football Conference. And 418 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm beginning to believe in Seattle man Darnold was absurd 419 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: last night. Sixteen and sixteen in the first half or 420 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: something like that. That's I don't I think. And then 421 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: I think he was did he did he complete the 422 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: first eighteen? I don't know what the number was. Yeah, 423 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: he was, I mean he was dealing. I mean he 424 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: was just spinning. He looked like I mean, honestly, he's like, 425 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. 426 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: Throw it over here. 427 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: Now I'm all over the left throw. It was an 428 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: impressed and their defense was very good. Now, of course 429 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: the Washington quarterback went down Daniels. Although I think it's 430 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: not as bad as they originally thought. It looked awful. 431 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: That was the location of his left elbow. You know, me, 432 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: I tried to avoid those videos, the rough injuries, and 433 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: that one just popped up out of nowhere last night. 434 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it was everywhere last night. 435 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: But usually you can insulate yourself from seeing it if 436 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: you really want to, And for I was just slow 437 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: on the scroll or something, and I actually saw it. 438 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: That was horrifying, horrifying. 439 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, and as I said, I think they're actually pleased that. Yeah, 440 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: there's not as much structural damage as it looked that 441 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: there was going to be. 442 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: He's another one those guys, though. 443 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Man, I he's good, but I don't think he's gonna last. 444 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: I think you're already seeing signs of it. 445 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: True. 446 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: I just missed a lot of time, and it's the 447 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: way he plays I'm just not sure is sustainable. 448 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: All right? 449 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour pause A Lieber in about a 450 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: half hour Johnny Athletic from Brooklyn, where the Wolves are 451 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: in action a game. 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To further accentuate the point I was attempting 463 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: to make before the break about the lack of belief 464 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: even after the Vikings had well, would I think be 465 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: classified as their signature win of this season thus far? 466 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: Correct? 467 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they are hosting the Baltimore Ravens hosting the Baltimore Ravens, 468 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: and the current odds had the Ravens as three and 469 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: a half point five. 470 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. 471 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: Three point five point favorites, which really again tells you 472 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: all you need to know. I don't think that's just 473 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: about Baltimore I know Lamar's back. 474 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: They certainly looked good. But who do they play? Who 475 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: do they beat last week? Miami? 476 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: Yes, they dominated Miami. They did what they were supposed 477 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: to do. They're obviously a very different team with him 478 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: as QB. 479 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: But the fact that there doesn't seem now me. I 480 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: don't know. 481 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: If the Vikings had lost the Lions, might the Ravens 482 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: be favored by five and a half six? I don't 483 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: know how that works, but it's a reminder that we 484 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: have a ways to go now. 485 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: Somebody texted, is this true that we played? 486 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: One of the talking points was the nice blitz recognition 487 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: hot read decision by JJ. 488 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: This was in the first half to quickly get the 489 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: ball out to Aaron Jones to the right ends up. 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: It was third and nine. I think we converted on 491 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: that play correct. Ultimately got a touchdown on that drive, 492 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: not mistaken. Yes, that was the first drive, exactly it. 493 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: They think we got it the next play to Justin Jefferson. 494 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: Is that right? 495 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if I had the play by well, 496 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: all I know, I don't know this. That's I'm asking 497 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: if you heard it. Somebody's texting earlier said that without 498 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: being prompted, Koc brought up the fact that he apparently 499 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: was a little annoyed that ultimately that play to Aaron 500 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: Jones was rule wasn't rule to pass. It was ruled 501 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: a run because apparently Jones must have been behind. In 502 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: other words, the quarterback whispered that the passing genius didn't 503 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: get credit for the yardage? 504 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: Did he say that? 505 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I didn't hear it, but nothing would surprise me. I 506 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: may go back and listen to the entire press conference. 507 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that correcked me up. I don't know 508 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: if how true it is, but it was kind of juicy. Yeah, 509 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: I would, I wouldn't care. I'd say good play, good 510 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: reaction by m QB, good recognition. Yeah, and it's a 511 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: good call if that was the call now, I don't 512 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: know again if if it was the kind of situation 513 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: where it was a different play until JJ got to 514 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, because he definitely certainly Brady thought 515 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: he changed the play. Yeah, so the technically that might 516 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: mean that that was not the play that Koc called, 517 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: But I still think you can take credit for it. 518 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: You should because. 519 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: That that actually gives you more quarterback whisper cred yes, 520 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: than if it was actually ruled a pass correct that 521 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: you had your quarterback prepared, you had your guy ready 522 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: for the moment. He did not look as frantic at 523 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: many key points as he did in the most of 524 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: the first two games. 525 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: I'll give him that for sure. 526 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Definitely overthrew, got hyped on a couple of those throws 527 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: on the run. But in terms of the cliche we 528 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: all talked about going going too fast for him, got 529 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: to slow it down, too fast, too fast. I didn't 530 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: feel he was sped up as often put that. On 531 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: the second quarter. He was towards the end of the half. Yes, yeah, stretcher, 532 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: we've already talked about a couple of different times. But 533 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: other than that, they could have run more then too. 534 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: They could have, but like on one of those possessions 535 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: they dropped back to pass on first and ten, he 536 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: gets sacked and that automatically puts you in the meat 537 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: grinder a little bit. So he didn't get any help 538 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: in that situation there. But there was a point where 539 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I think it was good that the Vikings got the 540 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: game to halftime because he was starting to speed up 541 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I don't know if that saves everything. 542 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: But I do think a time out there, a little 543 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: pause was helpful because he did not look as sharp 544 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: as he did a couple of those shows, even the 545 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: one to Addison that Brady even said, Addison's got to 546 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: come up with that. That was he was dealing in 547 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: the first half YEJ. The touchdown was outstanding, just right 548 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: where it needed to be in JJ, unlike a couple 549 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Remember when JJ didn't grab it with 550 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: the one hand. Was that against the Eagles, that was 551 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: against the Ubergine knocked it out, he sniped it, he 552 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: snagged it, he brought it in. But those were great 553 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: throws and then it did get a little hectic for 554 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: a minute, but then he settled in. 555 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: I thought, again it was great. 556 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: And then obviously the late one was was great. And 557 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: there were a couple others that were uh that that 558 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: Brady talked about that were the deep out to the 559 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: left that is a hard throw. That was a pretty 560 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: good Lasers as well. He's got the arm. I I 561 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: don't remember what how what the talk was about his 562 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: arm coming out of college. 563 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: I honestly don't. 564 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter at this point. Arms not the problem. 565 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be an issue. I 566 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: think he's he's got the arm to pretty much make 567 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, I would say pretty much every show, I 568 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: should say every throw. But yeah, we're we got our 569 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Boltimore material already, Ravens favored. Uh did you see here's 570 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: the other scary thing about the division? So the Packers. 571 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: The good news for the Vikings obviously is Detroit. They 572 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: beat Detroit, and the Packers trying a way to lay 573 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: an egg at home against Carolina. 574 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: It was an amazing Sunday. 575 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: And the Bears blew a fourteen point lead in about 576 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: fifty seconds and looked dead to all the world in Cincinnati, 577 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: and somehow got a late touchdown some of the worst 578 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: tackling you'll ever see on a pass oh the middle 579 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: to their rookie tight end and they end up stealing it. 580 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: I think it was forty seven to forty two as 581 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: a final score. But here's what's weird about the Bears. 582 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: I watched them a lot. I still don't think they're 583 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: very good. But they're hosting the Giants on Sunday. They 584 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: are favored, and if they win, they're going to be 585 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: six and three, which makes no sense to me. I 586 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: don't think there's a six and three team, to be honest, 587 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: but it speaks to the challenge facing the Vikings. Here 588 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: you got teams, it's a very cluttered field in front 589 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: of you. You got a lot of when you're talking 590 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: about at least wild card. Now, maybe we think with 591 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: the Detroit loss and green Bay coming back to the 592 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: pack that no pun intended that we can get back 593 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: in the division race. 594 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, because basically two. 595 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: Games separate the team's top to bottom. Correct, Yes, so yes, 596 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: it has. It has tightened up. But the Bears, as 597 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: inexplicable as this is, have a chance to go to 598 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: six and three if they knock off the Giants, which 599 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: is a game they probably should win if they're serious. 600 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: If they're serious, yeah, and then and then if they're not, 601 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: they'll they'll you know, they'll turn it the other way. 602 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: So very difficult to say. Let me get to a 603 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: couple of texts. We got more Vikings talking points to 604 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: discuss as well. Oh let me somebody's saying it's a 605 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: different play. The second quarter was the lateral to Jones 606 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: at game thirty one. Okay, so the one he played 607 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: was a pass. Yeah, but apparently it was the other one. 608 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: Koc was grousing about what and wouldn't he it's thirty 609 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: one yards, Yeah, that would make sense get away from 610 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: his passing total. And Ron Johnson, everyone's favorite wide receiver, 611 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: always complains about that or like wishes that that counted 612 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: back when he played as because it's not a pass, 613 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: it counts as a pass, but it's one of those 614 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: little shovel right. Yes, yes, it's basically a handoff, but 615 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: it counts as a reception. And he he thinks his 616 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: stats would have been a little bit better had those 617 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: counted back. 618 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: In his day. Yeah, very very true. 619 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: If you're if you're running the team, though, and you 620 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: you just want a good offense, right, you just want 621 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: you you got you're making some progress offensively, you got 622 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: some stuff going, you got some juice going. And to 623 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: me and this is sneaky, scary, I forgot. I'll admit 624 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: going to that game, I forgot how hell full Aaron 625 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Jones can be. And you know, because he'd been out 626 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: for a while. And I like the other guys and 627 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: you and Jordan's pretty Mason is pretty tough runner. I 628 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: had some good runs yesterday too, and he did, but 629 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: I was reminded that, no, that's a nice piece element. 630 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: And again, helping any quarterback, whether it's Carson Wentz or 631 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy whoever, is still just trying to get established 632 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: the position. That's that's how you do it. You give 633 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: him tools. But he's hurt again. Now, maybe this one 634 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: won't be serious, but I remember the hit and he does. 635 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: You can tell when when Aaron Jones gets jarred. Yep, 636 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: it's just that his whole body seems to go limp 637 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. And that's I think the last we 638 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: saw him or did he come back, He went right out, 639 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be again. I reminded him that's gonna 640 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: be a bigger that's gonna be a big loss if 641 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: he's out for let's say, even this game, because you 642 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: got to keep the thing rolling. 643 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: We we talked about this. 644 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: I think we got Baltimore and then is the Bears 645 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: next the Yes, Chicago's here, Yes, and then we got 646 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the tough two game road trip that includes our annual 647 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: trip to Seattle. That's right, a greenback, Sam Donald, Yes, 648 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: at green Bay and then at Sam Donald. And I 649 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: guess the way you have to look at it is 650 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: you kind of have to at least split those that 651 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: road trip. Yeah right, he's you know, we gotta then 652 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: if we're gonna lose to Seattle like we do every time, 653 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: or did we win one of them? Sam Darnald dialed 654 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: it up last year. That's right, had the Great Throat 655 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: climbed the pocket. Remember he had to call his own 656 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: play because the headset went out. It was one of 657 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: the most mythic Donald games of all time. That's probably 658 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: why they signed him. They got Mike James, then they 659 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: signed him. It's working out better for them than it 660 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: did for the Timberwolves. Dan, I know everyone seems to 661 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: be surprised about the Packers. Was in Carolina home, but 662 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: when they come out, they're dressed like the Cleveland Browns. 663 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand why people expect to go to differently. 664 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: So they were in some throwback gear. I didn't see 665 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: any of that. Yeah, they were in their throwbacks their 666 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: acme Packer days do much. No, No, I don't love those, 667 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: you know me. I like the different uniforms. I don't 668 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: hate alternative styles. That one I don't love as much. 669 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: I didn't see. 670 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: I didn't like the Gopher ones at all. I I 671 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: you know me, they were in black. Yeah, I just don't. 672 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: I know, I get it, everybody wears black now, but 673 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: I just I didn't even think they were that attractive, 674 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. But I do prefer the 675 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: schools try to stick to their colors, even if they 676 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: want to do like twenty two combinations of the colors. 677 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather they stick to the colors a little bit. 678 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: I again, I'm not losing sleep over it or anything. 679 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: By the way, no one tried to rush the field. 680 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Can you can cause somebody try to tell me there's 681 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: some folks who tried to rush the field after the 682 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Gopher victory and security stopped them. 683 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: Is that true? 684 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: I don't. I doubt they were storming the field. Well 685 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: that's what I was told. 686 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm asking you were there. 687 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: I felt like Drake Lindsay was about to go into 688 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: the crowd after he dove for the pyeline because he 689 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: did go down that way. But no, I did not 690 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: have to dodge anybody on the field on Saturday. He 691 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: didn't score either. Now I would say it. You know, 692 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: they're at the one inch line, by the way, but 693 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: that would have been fourth down. So here's here's your 694 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: hypothetical question. Yeah, you have to go for it there, 695 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: don't you do, do you think, but that's not my question. 696 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: Do you think PJ would have gone for it there? 697 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: Probably? I think you have to. Probably. It's it's obviously 698 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: a risk because game's over if you don't get it. 699 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: And it's the. 700 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: Same end zone where Brozmer snuck in against USC last year. Okay, 701 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: but it's also the same end zone where Leidner tried 702 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: to sneak against Michigan Bumble Harboughs first year didn't get in. 703 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: They lost that game. 704 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: That was Tracy Clay's first game as the interim after 705 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Kill retired, and they thought they had the game. 706 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: One similar situation, they thought they had the game one, 707 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: or at least the go ahead touchdown, but they reviewed 708 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: it and they ruled that the guy I think Drew 709 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: ola Tarski was out at the one yard line, and 710 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: so they line them all up, they tried one play, 711 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: then they tried to sneak and they didn't get it. 712 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot in that end zone, but 713 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: I think you would have probably had to push. I'm 714 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: sure you talked about the the. 715 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: Flag that got Yeah. Yeah, So because I. 716 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: I thought that was borderline. Well, I don't think it 717 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: was past interference at all. I think if it was 718 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: anything that was holding. Yes, But even that I thought, 719 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: I I didn't think it was egregious. I thought it 720 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: was callable. The one against the who's the gopher receiver 721 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: in the end zone? 722 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: That was that was p. 723 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: But I, like I said, I asked this question yesterday. 724 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you asked her if we've had 725 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: an answer to it. I honestly I do not remember 726 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: in ever watching a game in which a flag was 727 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: picked up that had already been announced, with the ball 728 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: already moving the new position. 729 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even think you could do it. I didn't 730 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: even think you could do it. 731 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: And I can't believe the dangerous precedent it is for sure. 732 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: And the explanation I did listen to the Jonathan Jonathan Smith, 733 00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: Michigan State's coach. 734 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 2: What did he say? 735 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: He said that his information was the official that had 736 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: the strongest opinion was was apparently late to the meeting, 737 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: and then because then they announced it, but she wasn't 738 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: there yet, and then that's what he said. 739 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's true or not. 740 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So the one who has the strongest opinion that 741 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: it should or shouldn't be called that they should pick 742 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: it up. They should pick it up. You can't call that. 743 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: But that meeting also a man have taken place. Is 744 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: she doing I don't know looking at the replay because 745 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: that was when they showed the replay. 746 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: Yes, because I agree with you. 747 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: If it was anything they could have called a hold, 748 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't p I because then when they do, when 749 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: they go PI and it's yea even close to know 750 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: what's going on here, But I've never seen we were 751 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: talking about obviously, we were talking about that as a 752 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: crew after the game that I don't remember a game 753 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: where it's been announced, it's been spotted. Then the replay 754 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: shows up and everybody goes crazy, as he should have, 755 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: because I don't think they they showed the whole part 756 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: of it on the big screen. 757 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Probably not, I don't know why you would. 758 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: Mace would say they would have done it at the 759 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: dome and they would have got would have gotten jobbed. 760 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: But but then even more. 761 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Shown like three or four like reverse angles for kid 762 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: the opposing coach get it right. Yeah, but then even 763 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: more so the Cajones even though it was a clear 764 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: pass interference on Lamechy Brocket. Yeah, to call that right after, 765 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: I'd be pissed. If I was missing, I'd be mad. 766 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: I think it's easier though, because of where the game was. 767 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: I think, of course in Michigan State it would have 768 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: been harder. 769 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: Of course, But that's it's the way it works. It's 770 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: like you just got it. What about that? How that happened? Yeah? Yeah, 771 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: I've never seen it because that would have been a 772 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: first and goal probably, I don't know. 773 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: Well, if that was first down, it would have given 774 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: a new set of downs. They wouldn't have had to 775 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: do the field goal. Yeah, it was crazy, crazy, No, 776 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: nobody to answer your question, nobody was rushing the field 777 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: in the Tracy Clays game that guards you talked about. 778 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: After the replay of you, they wound the clock tree 779 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: see and Lightner seemed unaware, and Lightner called like five audibles, 780 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: basically killed the clock before he snapped the ball. Yeah, 781 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: we should have been able to run two to three plays. Yes, 782 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: this was versus Harbaugh too, is what that? 783 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 784 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's first year at Michigan, and they played great and 785 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: everybody was unaware. They ran a bunch of motions and 786 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: stuff as the clock was windy, and it did it 787 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: sucked out like twelve seconds unnecessarily. They didn't get it, 788 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: and then they had no choice but to QB sneak it. 789 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: They didn't get it. 790 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: And the story I heard about that game was when 791 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: the touchdown they thought happened and Drew old Tarski was 792 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: in the end zone, the press box coaches went crazy 793 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: and basically, you know, they thought they won the game, 794 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: threw all their headsets, still all their play cards. Then 795 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: they realized we got to get our stuff back together. 796 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: And it wasn't exactly the tightest run ship for the 797 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: final two plays of that game. By the way, did 798 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: you see what my Hoosiers did? Went into Maryland and 799 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: stomped them. Have you seen in Big ten games their 800 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: point totals I've remember, mean, they're all in the fifties. 801 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: They've outscored their opposition two forty eight to seventy four 802 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: in a Big Ten. This is like a This is 803 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: like another world to me. Honestly, I don't even understand it. 804 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: And one day Signetti will make as much as Matt 805 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: Rule does at Nebraska. No there, what's going to happen 806 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: is They're going to go to Penn State this weekend 807 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: and Penn State's going to knock them off. You're taking 808 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: like a Minnesota I know. I'm just trying to I'm 809 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: trying to question myself. They'll still be in. They'll still 810 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: make the playoffs with the number one seed Hometown maybe two. Yeah, 811 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: well they get one after the beatlehioh State in the 812 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: title game. They would, Yeah, they probably would. That's it, 813 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: all right, top of the alarm, We're going to go 814 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: to a game. Well, there's one home game left, and 815 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: that's so I don't know. It's you can't get in. 816 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: You could get in. You can always get in the 817 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: closest hotel you I'd have to stay in like Cocomo, Indiana. 818 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: For God's sake, there's not even any rooms left in Indianapolis. Oh, 819 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: there's always room on the atress. It's the best host 820 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: city in the world. They've never run out of hotel. 821 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: They should move they should move their games to India. 822 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: Is that they should live at Lucas Oil? All right, 823 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: liber let's get his reaction. Uh, if you've not already 824 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: heard it, yes, I haven't to what took place yesterday 825 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: in Detroit and what it means for his favorite football team, 826 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, Ben liber and just