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Speaker 5: Now, all right, we're back Tennabe, Tenni Fitzgerald, Devin along

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Speaker 3: Daily how old are you, Devin twenty three, twenty three. Okay, So.

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Speaker 5: It's the year of the field goal, Devin, and you

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Speaker 5: the Danemore Podcast. How you doing, Dane, What are you

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Speaker 4: I am about a mile away from the United Center.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for the grind to start?

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Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, it was a pretty it

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Speaker 3: What do you what do you know? I'll be honest.

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Speaker 5: game resemble a regular season game?

440
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: Is a completely different?

441
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 5: Are there little things you're looking for when trying to

442
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 5: analyze what do you what are you looking for?

443
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: Well, so you're saying you didn't watch the Wolves preseason

444
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 4: game against the Long Lions.

445
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: I did miss that one.

446
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, you weren't locked into that sixteen point. No, there is,

447
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: there's nothing to take from them, Okay, I would. I

448
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 4: would say if you take anything from a game like that,

449
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna bite. Yet, I will say, though tonight,

450
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: I've heard all the guys are like going to be

451
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: playing and it's kind of gonna be like a dress

452
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: rehearsal for the regular season, which I do think is interesting.

453
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 8: You know, to see the main groups of guys playing

454
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 8: together and seeing stylistically if there if there are changes.

455
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 4: But I think the main thing a lot of us

456
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: are look with this team is who's who is playing?

457
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: You know, last year they basically played eight guys every

458
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: single game, and one of those eight guys is gone

459
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: in Nikhil Alexander Walker.

460
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 8: And maybe he's the eighth guy.

461
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: And so he's thinking that doesn't sound that important, But

462
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: Nikhil Alexander Walker was a really important piece of last

463
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: season's team and they need to replace that. And it's

464
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 4: an interesting question. I think it's a kind of defining

465
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: question of who they decided to replace him with is

466
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: Rob Dillingham. How much is Rob Dillingham part of the

467
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: Nikkiel replacement because he's the eighth overall pick a season ago,

468
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: this very valuable asset to this team, but he didn't

469
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 4: really play last season, so we don't really know. Is

470
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: at twenty years old, is he ready to contribute now?

471
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 4: And there's an opportunity there for him, so tonight you

472
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 4: know when he's He's played all pre seasons. But I'm

473
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: interested to see him play along inside Anthony Edwards, Ay,

474
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert and Julius Randall and at all of those

475
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: guys because I think he is a big swing factor

476
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: for this team. And really all the guys who could

477
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: kind of replace Nikhiel, could you know, got this team

478
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: down below our expectations or help them sort of ascend

479
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: beyond being the team they were last year.

480
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about three of the young

481
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: guys that could contribute. So let's go back to Dillingham specifically. First,

482
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: from what you saw in summer league action and whatever

483
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 5: you've seen in preseason, I don't know how much you

484
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 5: can garner from it what you've seen from preseason but

485
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 5: what have you seen from Dillingham in those moments and

486
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 5: do you believe he can take on a consistent role

487
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 5: in this roster.

488
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: I've always seen in Dillingham a guy who believes he

489
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: is ready to go. I think last season was difficult

490
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: for him. He never not he never not played before.

491
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: It's extremely confident in his skill set, and he had

492
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: every reason to be. You know, he's a superstar high

493
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: school talent that goes to Kentucky and is a is

494
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: a star, and then all of a sudden he gets

495
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: on to this team and it's got to be at

496
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: nineteen years old, this weird sort of confliction of well,

497
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: I think I'm awesome and I'm not playing, you know,

498
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: And I don't know how I would respond to that

499
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: sort of mental game at at nineteen years old. And

500
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: I think he talked to us about he had to

501
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: navigate him. That was hard, and I think he goes

502
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: angry at times with that. But I think that can

503
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: be true, and he's also taking it very seriously. I

504
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 4: don't think they've lost him or anything with that. When

505
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 4: I watched him on the floor, I watch him being

506
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: intentional about doing the things that they are telling him

507
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: to do and and what more can he ask, you

508
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: know than that. That's no guarantee that he's going to

509
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: be great or anything like that. But you know how

510
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: it's been man with the Wolves. There's been guys you

511
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: see him out on the floor and you're like this guy,

512
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: you know back in the past, like this guy doesn't want.

513
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 8: To be here.

514
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: He's picking up a paycheck, he's disgruntled, he's whatever. I

515
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: haven't I haven't got that sense from Rob, you know,

516
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: on the floor. I think he understands the assignment. The

517
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: question is, at twenty years old and one hundred and

518
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: sixty five pounds, can that player be a positive impact

519
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: player in the NBA right now? That's that's hard and

520
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: I don't have an answer to you for that. We

521
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: need to see that he needs to play for us

522
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: to be able to learn if he's ready to do

523
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: that right now?

524
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: All right?

525
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: Young player number two, though I don't know if I

526
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: can call him young because he is twenty five years old.

527
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: He came in as a very old rookie last year.

528
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 5: But Terrence Channon Junior, you know, at least in the playoffs,

529
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: he had limited minutes.

530
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: But I thought some of the minutes he had.

531
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: He looked great, he flashed, he seemed fearless, he seemed aggressive.

532
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: Where do you see Saron Shannon Junior fitting into this team?

533
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 4: I think he is ready and part of that is

534
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: just the age factor. I mean, he's crazy, they were

535
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: he's the same draft class as Rob. Yeah, he's literally

536
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: five years older than him, you know, so he should

537
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: be right, Like he should be more ready to go

538
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: and play this season. And you talk about the playoffs.

539
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: You turn on a game anytime you look at that

540
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: dude and you're like, yeah, NBA player. You know, he's

541
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: a big, big boy, He's strong, he is forceful, he

542
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: is all of those things. I think Terrence Shannon Jr.

543
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Is ready to go. And you know, just from talking

544
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: to people around the team that's been you know, going

545
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: back like six months, is like, yo, parents is about

546
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: to He's about to show out this season, you know,

547
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: like he and again, you know you can get some

548
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: of that fluff here and there, but it has been

549
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: a strong drum beat of like this guy is is

550
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: ready to go, and he's of the age that he'd

551
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: be ready to go. Physically, he's ready to go, and

552
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: I think his understand of his role is ready to go.

553
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: He's not trying to be more than a role player

554
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: right now. I think he's mature as he should be,

555
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: but I think he is he is mentally mature as

556
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: well for a second year player.

557
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: All right, Another young player I want to talk about

558
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 5: that would be their first round pick this year in

559
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: Joan Baronjay.

560
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Sorry if I'm mispronouncing that one.

561
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: You know, when he was drafted, the narrative on him

562
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 5: was this guy's new to basketball athletic specimen, but like

563
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: he's a project. It's going to take a while for

564
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: him maybe to catch up to speed. And then summer

565
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: league he just explodes onto the scene basically first minute

566
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: or two of the game, just becoming.

567
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: A block machine.

568
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: I heard audio from Jim Peterson on a podcast recently

569
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 5: about how impressed he was with Baron Jay and how

570
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 5: he thinks he should be in the rotation immediately, because

571
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 5: I just find it interesting because when he was drafted,

572
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: Com and I were talking about, well, do you just

573
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: put this guy in the G league and try to

574
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: develop them or do you stick him on the roster

575
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: where he might just rod on the bench, Like what

576
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: do you do with him? And now it's it's almost

577
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: like the narrative has changed a little bit on hey

578
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: maybe this guy can play right away. What have you

579
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 5: seen from him from summer league, from preseason? And do

580
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: you think he can find a spot in this rotation?

581
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll move through those things. I think the first

582
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: thing to focus on is the age is eighteen years

583
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: old right now, and the physical ability that he has.

584
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: I mean, at six eleven seven feet tall, the way

585
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: this kid moves, man is crazy.

586
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: It's like grew up.

587
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: Playing soccer and you can tell, but it translates to

588
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: a basketball court. There are not many players in the

589
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: NBA who are that size who can move like him

590
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: straight line, laterally, vertically, all of those sort of things

591
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: like that. That's there. The you know, the question is

592
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: like how how quickly is he going to adapt to

593
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: the NBA game. A year ago he's in the like

594
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: B League of the Slovenia League. You know, he's out

595
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: of nowhere sort of guy. So we don't have tape

596
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: of him against certainly not against NBA caliber players really

597
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: outside of a couple of flashes in summer league. So

598
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: you know, what is that going to look like? I

599
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: don't know, but what Finch is said repeatedly is the

600
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: kid is fearless and he has no bad NBA habits.

601
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: And that really stood out to me when I asked

602
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: him about that, the no bad NBA habits, because what

603
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: Fitch continued to say is with no bad NBA habits,

604
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: now we can mold him into exactly what we want

605
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: him to be. So that's exciting, right. I do think

606
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: the molding is going to take a little bit of

607
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: time because he's eighteen years old. I don't think the

608
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: rotation needs him right now. You know, I would say

609
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: he's probably eleventh if you were to kind of power

610
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: rank the guys. And like I said, last year, they

611
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: played eight guys a night, so he definitely on the

612
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: outside looking in the way I've been saying it. Remember,

613
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: like Luca Garza played a little bit when like a

614
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: big guy was hurt last year. I think that's probably

615
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: the Baron Jay role as they enter the season. But

616
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: who knows.

617
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Man.

618
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: Every so often, some of these guys they're just ready

619
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: to go right away and they are incredible right away.

620
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they found something, and you know, Tim Conley

621
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: does have a history of being the type of guy

622
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: who finds something, So we'll see. But I'm not picturing

623
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: Baron Jay having a role in the first week of

624
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: the season or anything like it would surprise me just

625
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: because I don't really see where the minutes would come from.

626
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: But I think people would be correct to be excited

627
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: about this kid just from what we've seen and kind

628
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: of how he's mentally wired.

629
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: What is your philosophy then, with a young prospect like

630
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: that is, are you a hey, go down to the

631
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 5: G League and play as many minutes as you can,

632
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: or are you okay having him sit on your bench?

633
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: But he's learning how to be a pro, he's learning

634
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 5: from NBA type coaching.

635
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: What's your philosophy on that?

636
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think there's a lot of value in

637
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: being up with the team, And I think that's a

638
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: little conterintuitive or people, you know, get go, get your

639
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: opportunities in the G League. Go play, go play, go play.

640
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: And I think it depends on the type of player.

641
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: You know, maybe somebody like Rob Dillingham ball in his hands,

642
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: score like, it's just good to sort of go down

643
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: to the G League and get an opportunity to remind

644
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: yourself that you can do all those things in a

645
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: real game context. Baron Jay is just going to be

646
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: a seven foot sort of role player for a while.

647
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: I don't even know what that would look like in

648
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: the G League, Like all right, just a bunch of

649
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: like rebounds and screening and choplie. Do you know what

650
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: I'm standing. There's like a little bit of a difference

651
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: there than a ball in his hand. Guy, I think

652
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: there will be a lot of value and having Baron

653
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: Jay up with the team, living NBA practice day after day,

654
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: learning from Rudy Gobert, Chris Finch, Julius rand All, the

655
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: bets on this team. I think that will expedite his

656
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: development more than playing in the G League will. And

657
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 4: he'll do it. He'll get a little bit of it.

658
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Speaker 8: You can mix that in some too.

659
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 4: But they said they view him up on the team

660
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: this season, and I think he has, if not a

661
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: real role, like to play right away. I think if

662
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert, Julius Randall or Nasri got hurt, you know,

663
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: the first game, they might play Baron jury in the

664
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: second game because they believe in him some so it

665
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: makes sense to the team to.

666
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 7: Have him up there too.

667
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 4: I think he could. I think he could provide them

668
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: real value if he needs to be be called on,

669
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: but yeah, he was the team.

670
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Speaker 3: That's what I think we're talking with.

671
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 5: Dane Moore from the Dane Moore Podcast covers the Timberwls

672
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Speaker 5: unlike anyone else, Dane, I think I've probably asked you

673
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: this question like three years in a row on the

674
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Speaker 5: ten of Fitzgerald. But well, we'll go back to it

675
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 5: again because Anthony Edwards is still just twenty four years old.

676
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Speaker 3: What's the next step in his progression? Is that?

677
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 5: You know, last year he added the three point shot

678
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 5: to his arsenal, and then you get in the playoffs

679
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: and you watch SGA hitting all the mid range shots

680
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: and drawing, drawing free throws. So some people are saying, hey,

681
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: maybe that's the next step, right, get and finding that

682
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: midrange game. Is it more stuff on the defensive end

683
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 5: of the play. Is it still trying to incorporate himself

684
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: with the teammates? Hut, what do you think is the

685
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: next step in the evolution of ant.

686
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: I don't remember specifically, but I'm sure my answer when

687
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: we've done this previous years was mental development, better, a

688
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 4: better understanding of the game, and you know, and how

689
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: to how to operate against the double team against this

690
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 4: coverage how to operate when guarding the guy with the ball,

691
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: how to operate with the when off ball, and those

692
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: sort of things. He needs to be more consistent defensively.

693
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: That would be a practical step forward. But I still

694
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: think it's the mental development of the game for him.

695
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: But we have seen that, to be fair to him,

696
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: that I've seen the mental development. The next stage of

697
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: I think mental development in basketball IQ is manipulation, and

698
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: more so than just making the right play, manipulating the

699
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: defense to make an even better play and not just

700
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: waiting for the double team for it to come. But

701
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: how can I go collapse the defense to draw a

702
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: double team? So I have to set up my teammates.

703
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: And if he gets that, if he gets to, you know,

704
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: like Luka Doncic does, is a ten out of ten

705
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: in that manipulation of the game. If Ant progresses in

706
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: that sort of way with the physical ability that he

707
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: has as an athlete that Luca doesn't, that's how you

708
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: start talking about Ant ascending beyond even that level of player, right,

709
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: And that's how he really becomes in the In the

710
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: MVP conversation, Luka Doncic, Shaikil, just Alexander and Nicola Jokic

711
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: are elite players, they're also elite things and manipulators of

712
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: the game, and an ant is moving in that direction.

713
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 4: But I think that's where the like explosion comes with Aunt,

714
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden we're like, Okay, maybe this

715
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: is Jordan like MVP caliber. Dude is manipulating the game

716
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: in the way that.

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00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 8: Those guys do.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that is that a reasonable expectation to

719
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: put on him, even at twenty four? I don't know,

720
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Speaker 4: but that's the that's the breaking through the glass ceiling

721
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: sort of progression that I potentially see for Aunt. And

722
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: and if that happens, man like look out.

723
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Speaker 5: We've seen the GM Tim Connley already not be afraid

724
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Speaker 5: to make big, bold moves.

725
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: We know the the.

726
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert trade and then trading Karl Anthony Towns and

727
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: bringing in Julius Randall and Dante DiVincenzo. I saw a

728
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 5: column from Jim Suhan and the Starship being just the

729
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: other day of of mentioning a Jannis Anti Tacumpo's name

730
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 5: and basically saying, hey, finally has been not been afraid

731
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 5: to take the big swing before.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he still could do it again.

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Speaker 5: Do you think, not necessarily h Yannis, but a player

734
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 5: of that ill Do you still think the Wolves could

735
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: be in the big game market when it comes to that,

736
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 5: or is it, Hey, this is the roster we have

737
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: and let's let's try to build some chemistry with it.

738
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Speaker 4: Well, I just from like a practical standpoint, going real

739
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: big game hunting, right, you need to you need to

740
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: be able to trade a lot of assets draft picks. Right.

741
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 4: The Wolves don't have draft picks that they could trade

742
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: for Yannis or even players beneath Giannis's caliber. Right, they

743
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: don't have the picks to trade because those are all

744
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: those are gone. In the Go Bear trade. They traded

745
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: a future unprotected person round pick for Rock Dillingham. Like

746
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 4: they are draft picked poor. So that to me kind

747
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: of halts a lot of that conversation. For the really

748
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: high name, high level guys. But the when those things,

749
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Speaker 4: I mean, any any guy, even a free agent, decently

750
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Speaker 4: big name that's come up, the Wolves of registered interest

751
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: in all of them, and they are constantly looking for

752
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: that because this is a win now team. This team's

753
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: number one goal is not player development, it is winning now.

754
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 4: They just happen to have some guys that are developing

755
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: in Dillingham, Edwards, McDaniels, Reid and all that. I would also,

756
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: So if they don't have the picks, then right, any

757
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: sort of trade is going to be trading a major

758
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: blue hit prospect on the team. So I mean, any

759
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: good player that the Wolves are trading for probably requires

760
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: Jade McDaniels to be going out the door, Nazrie, you

761
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: know something like that. What impact does that have on

762
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Speaker 4: an You know, those guys have been here with him

763
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Speaker 4: his whole career, they're his age range, those sort of things.

764
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Speaker 4: So I don't know, I could I could see a

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Speaker 4: future trade on the margins, kind of like the at

766
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: Randall trade right where it was like two similar caliber

767
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: players didn't really have to have draft picks in it.

768
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Speaker 4: I would. I could foresee a trade like that coming

769
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Speaker 4: down the line.

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Speaker 7: You know, this season, next season beyond.

771
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Speaker 4: But we started talking about the Giannas. With these superstar

772
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Speaker 4: guys that become made available, the market price to acquire

773
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: them is just going to be out of the Wolves

774
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: price range, I think in all likelihoods. So yeah, I

775
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: would say more so Tweaks. But they will look they

776
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: will they will look down every single one of those

777
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: paths to acquire them with the limited assets that they

778
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: have and the limited you know, financial flexibility that they have.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious what you see in Julius Randall for year

780
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: two because obviously he acquired right before the season and

781
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: seemed like it took him a little while to get

782
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 5: going from a chemistry standpoint. Then he was hurt in

783
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: the middle of the year. Once he came back, he exploded.

784
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 5: He was one of our best players the first few

785
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: rounds of the playoffs and then kind of went missing

786
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 5: an action and then OKC series year two of Julius Randall,

787
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: what are your expectations.

788
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Speaker 4: I really see a pass to him that he could

789
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: be an All Star. I see it like maybe not likely,

790
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: but I think a lot of people would dismiss that

791
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: out of hand, you know, like ready to talk, right,

792
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: Julius Randall all star? If you look at his numbers

793
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: in the final twenty one he was. He missed January

794
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: and he came back to the final twenty one games

795
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: of the of the regular season and the Wolves went

796
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: seventeen to four in that time, and Julius Randall averaged

797
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: eighteen points, seven rebounds, and five assists, shot forty percent

798
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: from three and.

799
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 7: Sixty percent from two.

800
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: Those are elite numbers on elite efficiency, which is not

801
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: a staple of Julius Randall's entire career. To be fair, right,

802
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: he was not. He has not been an efficient player

803
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: the entirety of his career. But something happened in the

804
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: final twenty one games this season where he figured out

805
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: what his role was in the context of this timberwol roster,

806
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 4: with a lot of help from Chris Hinch who believed

807
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: that that existed from Julius Randall. Then we move on

808
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: to the playoffs and you're right at the end of

809
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: the playoffs he was terrible against the Thunder, but you

810
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: know what happened in the first two rounds. He averaged

811
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 4: twenty four, six and six and again shot sixty percent

812
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 4: from two. So those are all star numbers. And I'm

813
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: not the West is loaded and all those sort of things.

814
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: But I think we kind of do this thing with Julius.

815
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Speaker 7: Randall where we're just kind of like, and I did

816
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 7: you know last year for sure, I struggled with the

817
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 7: experience and I was like, we're doing this in place

818
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 7: the Nasrid whatever, But it was it was pretty powerful.

819
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 4: The end of the season last year and his ability

820
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: to not just score for himself efficiently, but get his

821
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: teammates involved. That really changed, man. And I feel like

822
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: we don't acknowledge we don't acknowledge that enough, and we

823
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: get so caught up in some of the bad shots

824
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: that he takes, you know, kind of his moodiness that

825
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: he can wear on his sleeves too often, and we

826
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: miss sometimes that at the core, it might be a

827
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: type of player who's not really your cup of tea,

828
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Speaker 4: which I would say for me, that's not generally my

829
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: cup of tea type of player. But you look at

830
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: the production at the end of the day, and the

831
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: coach believes in it, and it's going to empower that.

832
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: I think. To believe in this Timberwolves team this season,

833
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: you have to believe in Julius Randall Dane. I don't

834
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 4: know choose that ass as your pick, but I think

835
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: he's I think he's critical to this team.

836
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Speaker 5: I've already I'm going across the border today to put

837
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 5: a betting slip on Julius Randall All Star Games. I

838
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: appreciate you making me some money this year.

839
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Speaker 4: You think the odds with that, what do you think

840
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: the odds with that of that would.

841
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Speaker 3: Be um man. I don't know, if I don't know,

842
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: if I don't know, if NBA.

843
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: Futures odds are my expertise, you think it'd be like

844
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 5: you think it'd be twenty to one.

845
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: That seems like a lot a lot of.

846
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Speaker 4: Good maybe, but that's kind of maybe ten.

847
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: To one, Yeah, ten to one, twelve to one.

848
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: A lot of guys in the sure, there's a lot

849
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 4: of guys in the West.

850
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

851
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know his position breakdown well enough to

852
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: be able to go after, but his numbers should be

853
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood if if he finished, if he plays

854
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: like he finished it last year.

855
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. That's That's about what I'm not

856
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: calling that Julius Randall will be an All Star. I

857
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: am reminding people that in the final twenty one games

858
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: of the regular season, in the first ten games of

859
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: the postseason, he was absolutely putting up all Star caliber

860
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: numbers on a team that was winning ninety percent of

861
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: their games. Like, we just got to remember that. In

862
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: this the whole Julius Randall conversation, right that ends up

863
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: oftentimes skewing towards toxic or finding reasons not to like him.

864
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: There are things to like about him too, And to

865
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: be honest, that took me, at me a while to

866
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: sure kind of let it take in, but I think

867
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: we need to consider.

868
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Speaker 3: That awesome good stuff.

869
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 5: As always, Dane always loved chatting with you, and we'll

870
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: talk to you soon, yes, sir, all right. Dane Moore

871
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: of the Dane Moore pod Cast. He covers the Minnesota Timberwolves.

872
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: You gotta listen to his podcast if you are a

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Speaker 5: big Timberwolves fan. Devon on the other side of the break,

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Speaker 5: we'll do some five questions. I think Devon's first time

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Speaker 5: ever hosting five questions. We'll do that next on the

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Speaker 5: Fits