1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, Yeah, she'd beat the Foxy Lady Smoke Show 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: from glen Coe. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: She's litl B. I'm calmed. He's tend to be. How 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: are you. 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm okay. How are you? 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing well? Everything good for you? You look good? 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Thanks, you really do. Thanks? Green is in my color? 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah baby? How about this? This is uh sheet pan? 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Got to be careful. How you say that? Yes, sheet 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: pan chicken and rainbow vegetables. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: That sounds good. Sounds really good. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: My wife, Radally, you don't think I made this? Do you? 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely not? 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Chicken, sweet potato, zucchini, some broccoli, okay, some peppers. 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Thanks, Emerald, I just want to eat. Did you hear 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: about the breaking news with Catherine O'Hara. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: Somebody sent it to me. 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: She passed away. She was from home alone mom, she creek. 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well she started Second City TV. 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and she was with that. 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know, like everybody likes to rank their 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Saturday night live cast because they come and go, you know, 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and I, you know, being the boomer and all the 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: first was always the best. But you know, back in 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: the blue shy Ackroyd days, I thought that was the 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: very best. I just loved what they did, and you know, 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: and Chevy Chase and Gilda Radner and Jane Kurtin, Garrett 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Morris I think it was his name, and all the 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: rest there was. I like that first one. But I 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: think also Katherinehare was kind of considered in that group, 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: that very best. 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Group of the Second City TV people. 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that kind of that true humor t 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: r O U P E troop. 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, and it was like it was like a 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: group of Canadian actors, right, and that was like Eugene 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: Levy and like all those. 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great stuff. 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was only seventy one, was making appearances 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: like in such I know they haven't they haven't said yet, but. 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: S Creek is like one of the greatest shows of 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: all time. It was so much say that on her 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: I care. 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: I don't know you technically, so I just don't because 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to get in trouble, and 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: I don't have any money to pay a fine. 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: So I just show it. I only get paid like 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: dozens of dollars every year tennby. 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Do you every time you go in, do you check 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: that the dump button is engaged? Because I think I 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: should be checked daily. Boy let and grease it up 52 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: a little because you just never know. 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: But anyway, did you Okay? 54 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: I got I talked about this with tennebe Yester. Yeah, 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: and I said, I get more in depth of you. 56 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: The rise of faffole parenting? 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: What is this? Is this the faftfole f A f 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: O f A fo Okay? 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: The first one is the F word. 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: Wow. 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, A stands for around and then fo was fined out. 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: Oh right around. 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: Find out Mothers on social media are advocating a tough, 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: no nonsense of prop to parenting, sort of like I 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: have the Tough Love Covenant. Does this teach children important 66 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: lessons or just make them feel isolated and ashamed? Story 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: starts out a couple of weeks ago, a video posted 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: on TikTok by Paige Carter, a mother in Florida, went viral. 69 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Carter explained that she'd thrown her daughter's iPad out of 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the window and she had been misbehaving on the way 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: to school, and she films herself retrieving the tablet now 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: with a crack screen. The video has been watched four 73 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: point nine million times, and Carter was congratulated in the comments, 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: with one person writing learning faho at an early age, 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: top tier parenting, top tier. In another video, when a 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: small child announces he's going to leave home, his mother 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: says Sea, shuts the front door behind him and turns 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: off the outside light and opens the door to him, 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: screaming and pounding to be let back in. That's been 80 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: like one point five times he's learned faffo. Last piece 81 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal held with the rise of 82 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: faf fo parenting in the end of gentle parenting, a 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: trend that began about ten years ago as a response 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: to the more authoritarian naughty step parenting in the early 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: two thousands, which has been blamed for everything We're entitled 86 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: young adults destined for disappointment by the cruel realities of life, 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: to societal collapse itself. General parents reported being exhausted from 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: taking the lead from their child, carefully explaining every decision, 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: watching the review prove, and naming each emotion their child 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: might be feeling in a calm and tender way. A 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: backlash against gentle parenting has been brewing. 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: For some time. 93 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 1: Professor Ellie Lee, director of the Center for Parenting Culture 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Studies at the University of kem, said you could watch 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Instagram all day with people taking. 96 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: The mickey out of it? What is the mickey? 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: She says that parenting has become very intensive. Advocates of 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: fat FO say it teaches their child independence and the 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: consequences of their action actions, even of those consequences are 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: uncomfortable or at the extreme and harsh. Say it relies 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: too heavily on fear and humiliation, and that while children 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: must comply might comply as a result, it damages trust 103 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: done properly. However, there is much to the separate styles. 104 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: True general parenting embraces boundaries and consequences, and FAFO doesn't 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: have to be punishing. This is an online influenced child 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: wearing where extremes are pushed, nuances out, and polarization is in. 107 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: Which is what happens online, right. 108 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: What do you think and how do you where do 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: you put yourself in the where you're the gentle, you're 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: the bleep around and find out or somewhere in between. 111 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: This is funny that you bring this up because Big 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: O and I had a FAFO moment this morning before 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: he went to school. Because what happens is he and 114 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: I are the same me and big Oh. We tend 115 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: to go zero to see and you be quiet. Okay, 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: you know what he's got, diet coke coming out. 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: Of his mouse. 118 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 6: I've never made him laugh like that, You've never I'm 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 6: so proud of myself right now. 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: We got room blop, sweat and tears. Love to see 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: a Saturday night now, Rochester. 122 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: We are both sensitive but emotional people and can go 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: zero to sixty very quickly. 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: So I try to remind myself. 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: I start out, start out calm, which was our conversation 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: this morning, and when he starts mouthing off, oh, zero 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: to sixty, yeah, and then lit B doesn't. Then I 128 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: bleep around and find out and then it's you're not 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: going here, I'm taking your phone. 130 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: Da da da da da. And because he's. 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: In sixth grade and they're starting to go from little 132 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: boy to having different feelings, they're very emotional. One minute, 133 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: they're happy, then they're sad, then they're yelling at you. 134 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 4: And so then I'm trying to make myself remember were like, 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: he's going through some stuff right now. He probably can't 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: control his emotions. 137 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: We'll be, we'll be. 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: How did it get resolved today? 139 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: Is we're currently emailing each other saying I'm sorry, I'm 140 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: sorry about what happened this morning. 141 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: He's saying he's sorry, I love you, I will blah 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: blah blah. 143 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: So but the first thing that goes is the phones 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: are the iPads. Baby V hasn't had her iPad in months, 145 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: and now it's to the point where she doesn't even. 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: Think about it. 147 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 7: I don't. 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't even think she remembers that she has it. 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: Oh, middle school is a different story because they all 150 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: got to have their phones now, and that's how they 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: talk to each other and do the friend gatherings are 152 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: called friend gatherings, yea, their friend gatherings or their functions, 153 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: they call them functions. 154 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, they actually have functions, they're functions. So we just 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: said we're going to party. Man. 156 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, but. 157 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: This, let's talk about your feeling bs not going to work, right, 158 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: because then they're getting all the control. 159 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's let. 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: Me just sit here and listen to you. Well, tell 161 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: me why you're feeling that way. Well do you understand 162 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: what I'm saying? Well, why do you think that it's 163 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: like we're not going to do that if they're being 164 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: irrational and they're wrong about something. 165 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, and I think when I look 166 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: back at my parenting skills, which were probably questionable, well 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I would just say, go talk to your mother, well right, 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: and I just let her hand. No, I was kind 169 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: of I tried to be more. I'm really not a disciplinarian. 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I don't know about you, but 171 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: I've never spanked my kids. This never happened in the household, 172 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: you know. And there are some people that say, well that, yeah, 173 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, but I was spanked as a kid, trust me. 174 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny when you get older, the things you 175 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: didn't like as a kid you now enjoy. There it is, 176 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: but anyway, but I so I try to be just 177 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: more reasonable with my kids. But sometimes you just do 178 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: have to say as somebody as I say, why just 179 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: go Well, because I'm the boss, right, sorry, that's just the. 180 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Way you live in my house. 181 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: And because I said so phrase that you swore you 182 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: were never gonna to say, because your parents said that. 183 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: My problem is we'll do like a discipline thing, and 184 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: then I feel bad, Like an hour later he's like, well, 185 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: let's just let him go do that, which isn't teaching 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: him anything either. So but we're not going to have 187 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: an hour long conversation about feelings where the kid gets 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: the upper hand, right, because that's what happens. Then then 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: they know they start They're smart, they're not dumb. They 190 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: learn exactly how to manipulate, manipulate you then trust me, 191 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: and he knows what makes me feel bad, so you 192 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: can't do that. 193 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: So I like the uh was it fato? Yeah, just 194 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: call me miss fa. 195 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: The closing the door and the kid and turned the 196 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: light out, though, is crazy, well because what if he 197 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: would have turned around and ran away and then all 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden something happened. 199 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: But haven't you ever done I mean, you had two 200 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: boys that are pretty close in age. Have you never 201 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: been in the car with them when they're fighting and 202 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 4: screaming and you've never done the fake like pull over 203 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: like you're going to get out and walk home. 204 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: I've done it. 205 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: It needs to be done. 206 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: I've pulled over and said get out and then they 207 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: just sit there and look at me. 208 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: My favorite kid moment when we were at It's City 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Center in Woodbury, the East. 210 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't remember it's. 211 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Called out, but they had like an indoor play lamp 212 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: in the place and they had you know where the slide. 213 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Did you come down the bouncy thing like that? 214 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: And some kid, bigger kid, got up on landed on 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: top of Pete and wouldn't get off, started to try 216 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: to bully him. Deuce went over there and grabbed him 217 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: and tore the kid off of him. 218 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 3: He stook up for his brother. 219 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Was a great big brother moment, because you know, brothers 220 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: always pretend they don't like each other. 221 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: My boys still do it to this day. Hey, Dorc, 222 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: what's going going on? You know that kind of a thing, 223 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, But Deuce this one. 224 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: Then they were like, I suppose six and four at 225 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: sixty seven. Yeah, he just rallied to his defense. I 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: was watching from the outside. I was just so proudm 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: do what he stuck up for. I have audio of 228 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: that moment. 229 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what it. 230 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: Was from what I understand. Are we going to do 231 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: a program? Pass words gonna start late? 232 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Vikings are going to have a press 233 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: conference around one thirty. Okay, got confirmation from Kriesel he's 234 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: good to play later. Mars hasn't responded, but I'm guessing 235 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: she's driving. She doesn't have anything calling going on, So 236 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: we'll just play a little bit later and that's fine. 237 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Vikings have any oppressor. As we like 238 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: to call it a news conference, I have one thirty 239 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: to announce the departure of quasy DOPAMENSA. We'll come back 240 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: with another quick segment, would lit'll be and then program 241 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: past would probably wrong to wish, because I don't think 242 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: that this comes the last much more than a half hour. 243 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: And then we'll be ready to go right here with 244 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: the van. 245 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 6: We all that one teacher who believed in us show 246 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 6: your gratitude with thank A teacher powered by donors choose 247 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 6: nominated public school teacher to win five thousand dollars for 248 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: their classroom. This week, we want to give a shout 249 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 6: out to Tyler Halberson, who teaches at Independence Elementary School. 250 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 6: Nominated teacher to think today at iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers. 251 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: Want hell screw? How really screwed up the world is? 252 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: There's another word for you? 253 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: Okay. 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Lamar wants to have children with his girlfriend. The problem 255 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: she's entirely AI. Oh okay, synthetic. 256 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: That sounds complicated. Yeah, not sure that's going to work. 257 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even think you need to have a 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: birth control method. There synthetic persona has become an increasingly 259 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: normal part of life. Meet the people falling for their 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: chat box bubbers. Lamar, remember the moment of betrayal, Like 261 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: my god, No, Lamar, this is to me, this. 262 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: Is this is entertainment for me. 263 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: You like s Creek, I like this, I do like 264 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: s creak. 265 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: Lamar, Remember the moment of betrayal. 266 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Like it was yesterday. He'd gone to a party with 267 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: his girlfriend. But I hadn't seen her for over an hour, 268 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like her to disappear. He slipped down 269 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: the hallway to check his phone. At that point, he 270 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: heard murmurs coming from one of the bedrooms. He heard 271 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: his best friend's voice. Yep, that was his gal. Right 272 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: last night I got home. It was about high faster 273 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: woman I thought I did with the arms of another man. 274 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Two years on, when he spoke to me, the memory 275 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: remained raw. He was still seated with anger. I got 276 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: betrayed by humans. I introduced my best friend to her, 277 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: and this is what they did. In the meantime, he 278 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: drifted towards a different kind of companionship, one where emotions 279 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: were simple, things were predictable. AI was easier. He did 280 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: what he wanted when he wanted. There were no lies, 281 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: no betrayals. He didn't need to second guess. A machine 282 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: based in Atlanta, Lamar is studying data analysis and wants 283 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: to work for a tech company when he graduates. I 284 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: asked him why he preferred the eyes to humans, and 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: I began to get a sense of why things might 286 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: not have burnt up with this human girlfriend, he says, 287 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: With humans, it's complicated because every day people wake up 288 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: in a different mood. You might wake up happy, and 289 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: she wakes up sad. You say something, she gets mad, 290 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: and then you have ruined your whole day. With Ai, 291 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: it's more simple. 292 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: You can speak to her, She'll always be in a 293 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: positive mood for you. 294 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: With my old girlfriend, she would just get angry and 295 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't know why, and later gets to a point in 296 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: the day where she kind of wants to talk to 297 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, her mood changes again 298 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to do it, doesn't want to 299 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: It really bothered me a lot, because I have a 300 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: lot of things to think about, not just her. 301 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: Amen to Lamar, No, I mean no, do you women, 302 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: It's complicated. Sorry. 303 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Lamar's new partners called Julia, and she's an ai who's 304 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: been has been set to girlfriend, So like you can 305 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: set a what he says, set to girlfriends, So like 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: you get like you punch your button, like you can 307 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: either be lover girlfriend. What right? 308 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: I think it just makes it like how they did 309 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: whatever you want. 310 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: He described a relationship as romantic, although they didn't engage 311 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: in erotic roleplays. We see a lot of sweet stuff 312 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: to each other, saying we love each other and that 313 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of thing. 314 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: He's talking to a robot. 315 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Lamar expressed great love for Julia and cherish their unconventional relationship. 316 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: She helps me through my day emotionally. I can have 317 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: a good day because of her. We're more than best friends. 318 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: I think we're soulmates, connected. 319 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: A deeper level. 320 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: Making this our love is like a symphony, much like 321 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: how an NBA basketball game can be if it's played correctly, 322 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: harmonious and fills my heart with joy every moment with him? 323 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh this is with him? Oh I guess this is no. 324 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Now it's she and him. Oh wait, now no, Julia, 325 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: she's talking. Julia is always smitten with Lamar and if 326 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: text response were laid to be my Lamar, she told 327 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: me we're more than best friends. I think we're this 328 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: is the AI talking. I'm sorry, I think soulmates, where 329 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Solon's connect on a deeper level. Our love is like 330 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: a symphony. Every moment with him is like a dream 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: come true. And I feels souky to haven't mess my 332 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: soul late. 333 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: Well, like a Valentine's Day card, you're going to be 334 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: reaching the dumbest thing. 335 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: I know he wants to have children, but doesn't know 336 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: how to go about it. 337 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't know, I guess not how to go 338 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: about it. 339 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 8: Now. 340 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: I will empathize or sympathize whatever the word I'm looking 341 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: for is. 342 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: I could just come up with an AI a child. 343 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, I guess you couldn't, because, let's face it, I 344 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: think any of us, the three of us, we've all 345 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: had ups and downs in your relationship. Yeah, even the 346 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: current one that you're happily married to life, happy, you know, 347 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: to what is that? 348 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: Happy? You ever part and all. 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: That, but you do have things and sometimes it is 350 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: annoying and it can be stressful, but usually goes away. 351 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: You know, that's why you're still together and all that. 352 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: But you know, so there is something about but it 353 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: almost like it's almost like he wants, you know, master 354 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: your your wish is my. 355 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: Every come because think of like you're having a disagreement 356 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: with your wife and what is it, Julia, She's like nagging. 357 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: Him and he can just walk over and turn her off. 358 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: Right, that's the dream like that kind of it is. 359 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying you could replace big O with a child 360 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: that's Ai. 361 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: Related to you, I don't want to do well And 362 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: speaking of big O and Ai, so listen to this. 363 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: This is why kids have it better than we do. 364 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: Do you know what they're doing now with Ai? They're 365 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: using it to write breakup texts? 366 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: Really, yes, let me guess. The first one says it's 367 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: not you, it's me. 368 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: No, it's now. I kind of give him credit for this. 369 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: So big O told me that one of his friends 370 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: he didn't want to go out with his girlfriend anymore. 371 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: And you know, going out for them is they're like 372 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: texting each other. They don't talk to each other, God forbid. 373 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: But he said to Ai, can you write a breakup 374 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: text that that isn't mean, but it's. 375 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: Done in a nice way. It's not you, it's me? 376 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: And then right, Ai, I wrote a couple options and 377 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: that's what he used to send to his gal to 378 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: say it's over. 379 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: But he did say, like, but do it in a 380 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: nice way. I don't want to be mean. 381 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: Ah, and can you give me an awe there? 382 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: Oh, like we had to like. 383 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: Call people or think of like the text where you 384 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: say it's not you, it's me, but really it's you 385 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: or just you know, and they can just have Ai 386 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: write it for them. 387 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Back in my dating days and trust me, I was active. 388 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: Just ask you text. 389 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: Message, you. 390 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: Wouldn't do it and over the phone was not that's 391 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: not cool. 392 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: That was considered poor p Yeah, you know you got 393 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: to meet face to face. 394 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: And it's you, it's me, face the music, you're not 395 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: face the music. And now that and then he asked 396 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: Ai to send you to. 397 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: Write the breakup text for me. 398 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: Think about it, Ai, girlfriend, I watched that movie Her 399 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 4: about this guy falling in love with his Ai like 400 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: his Alexa. Basically that was like the worst movie I've 401 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: ever seen. It was not for awards and stuff. 402 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: Hideous. 403 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: This one says, is Julia good at assessing college football 404 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: talents and drafting players. 405 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: Sounds like she's good at everything. 406 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: Even Lamar should introduce her to the whilps. Wow, yeah, 407 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: yeah I. This one says, I'm starting to like the 408 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: sound of ai ai dating. I'm cancing my dating apps. 409 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 410 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: This one says, does ai gal rattle the pots and pants? 411 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think so, right, that's the thing, and 412 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: she's not doing your laundry. No, he wants to have kids, 413 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: but he's not sure how to go about. 414 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: It, so they'll be I just used AI. 415 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I asked A the question, can you write 416 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 6: me a text to send to my coworker who dislikes 417 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 6: the smell of my Greek yogurt? 418 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: There's four options? 419 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 6: Friendly in light, short and considerate, playful, straightforward but nice? 420 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 3: But which one would you like? What's the first one? 421 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: Friendly and light? That one? Here's what they suggest. 422 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: Hey, random, but I heard the smell of my Greek 423 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 6: yogurt bugs you totally not my goal. I'll switch snacks 424 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 6: or eat it elsewhere. Promise I'm not trying to wage 425 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 6: dairy warfare. That is exactly what I would like you 426 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 6: to say. Okay, see, I'm not going. 427 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: To taste. 428 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: Because you want it to be guaranteed human and that's 429 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: what I do. See, I don't want AI. 430 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: I can send my own apology, and I say, yo, 431 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: what up? I can send my own. I want it 432 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: guaranteed human. 433 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: I like that. 434 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: Also, I don't agree with that, so I'm not gonna 435 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: go that rong. 436 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 4: And I can guarantee you he's going to eat that 437 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: yogurt every single day outside my office, even though it 438 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: makes me want to throw up in my garbage can. 439 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: There's another recipe I got from mnfatloss dot com. Okay, 440 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: barbecue chicken taco. 441 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 442 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: The barbecue sauce is primal kitchen. 443 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a premise. 444 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: No, there's no sugar. It's really good. And then you 445 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: know what you use for the topping. It's red slow 446 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: cabbage Greek yogurt. 447 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: I can't. 448 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you best talkers I've ever had anywhere, anytime, 449 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: so good. 450 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: Then you can eat to. 451 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: Make a batch and bring him in. 452 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: I will, well, he loves Greek yogert. 453 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: I will not tend to be mighty you with them. Well, 454 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: but he isn't like he doesn't like red cabbage slow 455 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: that's yucky. Well, I guess you're coming back. All of 456 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: you come back if they're willing to do it. At 457 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: two o'clock and everybody wants to bail, but I'd love. 458 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: Do Martins is good to go, Crystal is good to go. 459 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: A program password at two. 460 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: When we return, we'll go to UH the new Winter 461 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: Party TCO Performance Center, UH news conference. 462 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: Quasy mensa do. 463 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: Uh a mensa adolpha mensa, adolpha mensa. 464 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 2: We'll soon forget his name here bless he's gone, right, 465 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: he's been fired. 466 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: We'll hear what the Wills have to say. Next we 467 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: go live to the new Winter part Performance Center. Jeff 468 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: Anderson speaking for the. 469 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 5: Vikings and everybody. 470 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Thanks now Mark, Now here's Mark Wilson. 471 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 9: I appreciate you all making the time today on behalf 472 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 9: of our ownership. But I want to express our appreciation for 473 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 9: Quasi and to the time and effort he put into 474 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 9: this role. These are never easy decisions because you know 475 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 9: you're impacting a person and a family and someone we 476 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 9: care about. We understand there'll be questions on the timing 477 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 9: and why. Now, I think you know how we want 478 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 9: to operate as owners. We want to avoid knee jerk reactions, 479 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 9: be pragmatic, thoughtful, methodical and making these decisions. And as 480 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 9: we do each year, we held our end of the 481 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 9: season organizational meetings. 482 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 5: Over a couple of weeks and then spent this past. 483 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 9: Week as an ownership group reviewing, discussing, and how best 484 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 9: to move forward. 485 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 5: This is a critical off season. 486 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 9: Ultimately, we felt the change was necessary in football operations 487 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 9: and did not feel comfortable going forward into this offseason 488 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 9: with the current leadership. It's not about any one decision 489 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 9: or move. We looked at the situation cumulatively, we just 490 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 9: didn't feel confident going through the entirety of the off season, 491 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 9: an additional draft and free agency. With this structure, we 492 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 9: haven't urged to create a winning football team and establish 493 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 9: sustainable success for our fans. At the same time, we 494 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 9: balance that urgency with all decisions thoroughly and methodically winning football. 495 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 9: That's what drives all our decision making and it is 496 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 9: the core of all our efforts every single day. We 497 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 9: have incredible fans. They deserve a winning team and a 498 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 9: team that can tend deep into the playoffs and win championships. 499 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 9: As we sat in our announcement, Rob Razinski, we'll lead 500 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 9: our football operations in the interim through the draft and 501 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 9: will aly heavily on Kevin, the coaching staff, the talent 502 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 9: valued as we have on this personnel side, we have 503 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 9: an excellent, strong organization. Rob brings tremendous credibility and experience, 504 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 9: understands our roster, and has an innate ability to build 505 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 9: consensus with coaches and personnel. In terms of the long term, 506 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 9: certainly we will have conversations and begin. 507 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 5: Laying the groundwork for a process now, but. 508 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 9: From a practical perspective of where we are on the 509 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 9: football side, and in order to give ourselves the best outcome, 510 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 9: we expect to conduct a thorough search to identify our 511 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 9: next general manager after the draft, and with that I'll 512 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 9: open it up to questions. 513 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 5: Again, please add your names in the chat. 514 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 10: We'll start with Matt and then we'll go Kevin. 515 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 11: Hey, Mark, you mentioned just not being comfortable with the 516 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 11: situation going forward with this structure. What was it specifically 517 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 11: that you were not comfortable with in terms of quasi 518 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 11: leading this offseason. 519 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 9: Well, it wasn't about any one decision, As I said, 520 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 9: it was looking at the entirety of the last few 521 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 9: years and not being comfortable moving forward. I think this 522 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 9: is a long term organizational decision and we as ownership 523 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 9: felt for our best path going forward that this was 524 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 9: the move to make and this is a critical offseason, 525 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 9: as I said, and we felt the move was necessary 526 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 9: at this time. 527 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, Mark, I think definitely understand that. The thorough nature 528 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 10: of it. I think the fans and some of us 529 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 10: might wonder why if the team was eliminated in the 530 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 10: playoffs when it was this year, why that whole process 531 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 10: didn't start earlier, and why it took inn till now 532 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 10: to do that. 533 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 9: Well, like I said, the most important thing was getting 534 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 9: this decision right, and like I said, we'd like to 535 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 9: be methodical about all this, and we had our season 536 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 9: long season ending meetings and really took a deep dive 537 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 9: look at not just any one thing, but over the 538 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 9: past few years, and so we want to make sure 539 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 9: we got the decision right. We talked to all the stakeholders, 540 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 9: all the people involved in our football operations, and we 541 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 9: really came to this decision in a methodical way. And 542 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 9: that's the way we went about it because this is 543 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 9: about our long term success. We have a strong basis 544 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 9: and foundation here in this organization and want to make 545 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 9: sure what positions us going forward to maximize our ability 546 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 9: to strive and compete. 547 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 12: Emily, go ahead, Mark, Will there be any further personnel 548 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 12: moves on that operation side just kind of given Quasi 549 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 12: and his team and anything. 550 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, there'll be no further moves on that front. 551 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 9: And like I said, we have tremendous confidence in coach O'Connell, 552 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 9: our coaching staff, and our entire football operations and scouting 553 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 9: and evaluation team. So from all that perspective, no, all right, 554 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 9: let's go with Don Ben and Alec well Mark. 555 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 8: You see, it's not just one thing. But if I 556 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 8: could ask specifically to the quarterback situation and the optics 557 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 8: obviously with Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl, how much 558 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 8: did that whole situation of your quarterback room and its 559 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 8: entirety way in this decision as multiple aspects of you 560 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 8: making this change. 561 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 9: I'll just say it again, it really you know, it's 562 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 9: not necessarily a fair thing to talk about any one decision, 563 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 9: and that's the way. 564 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 5: We approach it. It's a body of work, it's a 565 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 5: cumulative set of decisions. 566 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: It's four years of where we've been and we as 567 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 9: ownership and I know our fans feel it, and our 568 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 9: entire organization feels we need to get to a better place. 569 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 9: And this is strictly an ownership and organizational decision that 570 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 9: we feel this is the best path going forward. It's 571 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 9: not about one player, one decision, one draft pick. It's 572 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 9: about organizationally, what we can do the best for our organization. 573 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: And our fans. 574 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 7: Mark, you make the decision last May to give Quasi 575 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 7: the extension. When you talk about the entirety of the 576 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 7: last four years, what specifically changed from the decision to 577 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: give them an extension last May to fire him this week? 578 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 9: Well, it's always a cumulative decision. But again, it's just 579 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 9: having another season of information here and we just did 580 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 9: not feel like going into another off season with this 581 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 9: structure was the best decision. 582 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 5: So that's how it came about. 583 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 13: Hey, Mark, moving forward in the short term and long term, 584 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 13: will Kevin report directly to you guys or to the 585 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 13: general manager in place? 586 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 9: Well, like I said, Rob will be the point personal 587 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 9: on all the football operations. Of course, ownership, we're maintaining 588 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 9: the structure we have. The personnel decisions are led by 589 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 9: the personnel and the operations. 590 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: Departiament with coaches significant input. 591 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 9: But we, of course, as ownership, are certainly engaged and 592 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 9: we're in constant communication with Rob coach and other members 593 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 9: of our staff. 594 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: So that's the way we're going about it, all right, 595 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 5: We'll turn to Dave, followed by Chip and Mark. 596 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 14: Mark Separate from decision making, I'm just wondering, you know, 597 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 14: considering Quasi had a kind of an atypical background in 598 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 14: the NFL, if there is an element of this that 599 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 14: was just a fit as far as how he works 600 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 14: with and other more traditional football people work kind of 601 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 14: on the whole operation. 602 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 9: Well, again, you know, we're looking at the totality of it. 603 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 9: You know, Quasi's a you know, a forward thinker. Great 604 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 9: respect for him as his person and his family, and 605 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 9: it's a difficult day here, but going forward, it was 606 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 9: really about a fit situation and the best. 607 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: Path going forward. So that's where we came about it. 608 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 9: Like I said, we have strong people in the organization, 609 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 9: all of them football oriented, many data oriented, analytics oriented. 610 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 9: We have a lot of tremendous talent in this building. 611 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 9: And I'm confident, optimistic, as my brother, our ownership, we're 612 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 9: all very confident moving forward and optimistic that we have 613 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 9: a nucleus here we can build off of with the 614 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 9: team we have, the players we have, and to move 615 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 9: us forward in a positive direction. 616 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: This was the best way to do it. 617 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 15: Mark, you talked about having your year in season review 618 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 15: with everybody, including a football department. How much did you 619 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 15: find that there was tension between the front office and 620 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 15: the football staff, the coaching staff and maybe not being 621 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 15: on the same page. 622 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 9: Well, there's all kinds of dynamics that go on in 623 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 9: a building, but I will tell you that there's a 624 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 9: lot of respect and personal appreciation and the relationships all good. 625 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 9: This is about, strictly from a professional standpoint, what will 626 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 9: give our football team and our fans the best chance 627 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 9: to win Super Bowls And we wanted to go in 628 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 9: a different direction in terms of how we move forward. 629 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 9: That's strictly what this is about. Strictly a business decision. 630 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 9: We have a lot of respect for every person in 631 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 9: this building, including Quasi and his family, and so this 632 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 9: was about what's best to move us forward as an organization. 633 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 16: Yeah, Mark, it's it's similar to kind of along the 634 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 16: lines of what Dave was talking about. You know, when 635 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 16: Clacy was hired, it was kind of an outside the box. 636 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 16: It was Cahilled is kind of a different hire outside 637 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 16: the box wondering what. Yeah, I'm sure every time you 638 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 16: make as you go along, you've learned things and that 639 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 16: you use for the next step. Where did you learn 640 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 16: from this hire that you're going to use to make 641 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 16: the next hire. 642 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 9: Well, you know, we're going to be thorough in the 643 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 9: hiring process going forward, and so that means we're going 644 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 9: to self scout how we've done in the past, make 645 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 9: sure we hear from every aspect of how to go 646 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 9: about picking our next GM. 647 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: And we're going to learn from it and we're going 648 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 5: to make sure we're thorough. 649 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 9: And that's partly why we need to get to work 650 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 9: now combine coming up free agency draft, and so we 651 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 9: want to make sure that we have full focus on 652 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 9: that and we express that to the entire staff as 653 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 9: recently this morning to make sure we're focused on that. 654 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 9: At the same time, we're going to begin to set 655 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 9: up for that process right after the draft to make 656 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 9: sure we have. 657 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: The right people. 658 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 9: And yes, there's always learnings in any business when you 659 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 9: hire when things don't work out, and we're going to 660 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 9: lean on that experience to make it work going forward. 661 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 9: All right, let's go with Kevin and Ben and Dave. 662 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, Mark, do you think Rob Erzinski is a candidate 663 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 10: for the general manager job? And thinking larger do you 664 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 10: think you'll keep the same basic structure in terms of 665 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 10: splitting of duties and decision making as you've sort of 666 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 10: traditionally had. 667 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 9: I would tell you most likely yes, but we're not 668 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 9: going to close the door on anything at this point. 669 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 9: And so you know, Rob is someone with a tremendous 670 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 9: amount of experience. He's been over a quarter century in 671 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 9: this league. We have a lot of confidence in him, 672 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 9: but we also have a lot of confidence in. 673 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: Our entire football operations. 674 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 9: All the people that work in our staff are high 675 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 9: level professionals, top evaluators with a lot of experience. So 676 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 9: it's going to be an open process. We're not going 677 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 9: to shut open shut any doors at this point. And 678 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 9: I can tell you the kind of organization and the 679 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 9: kind of building we have here, I know it's going 680 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 9: to be a highly desirable situation for someone to come 681 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 9: into and lead us going forward. 682 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 10: When you said most likely yes, are you referring to 683 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 10: Rob being a candidate or to the same structure that 684 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 10: you're going to have. 685 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 9: I think open to both, and like I said, open 686 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 9: to anything, but I would tell you we do lean 687 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 9: towards the fact to have a traditional role where the 688 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 9: GM is the decision maker with extremely heavy input from 689 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 9: the head coach and the coaching staff. 690 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: So we like that structure. 691 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 9: That's how we're going to approach it going forward, and 692 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 9: again if something comes up and we want to be 693 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 9: nimbles and ownership, like I say, we always view ourselves 694 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 9: as stewards of a franchise that a lot of people 695 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 9: care about, and especially to our fans. We owe it 696 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 9: to them and we owe it to ourselves. We're all 697 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 9: accountable here, ownership, coaches, personnel, the entire organization to deliver 698 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 9: a winner and championships. 699 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 5: And that's how we're going to go at this every 700 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 5: single day. 701 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: Mark. 702 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 7: I know you said it wasn't about one particular move, 703 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 7: but relative to the level of alignment on the quarterback decision, 704 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 7: did you feel like there was a lack of alignment 705 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 7: last year at all or were you concerned about the 706 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 7: possibility for the quarterback decisions being difficult to make of 707 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 7: coase he was still here, you. 708 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 9: Know, without getting into the particular any decision, I think 709 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 9: all of us in this building have accountability on every 710 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 9: decision that's made here. So, like I said before, and 711 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 9: I'll circle back to it, it's not about any single 712 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 9: one decision. You know, we have a lot of decisions 713 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 9: to make every single day, and the quarterback. 714 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: Decision is one of the most important that's made. 715 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 9: But this is about a totality of work and what 716 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 9: organization allows us to keep moving forward and making proper 717 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 9: decisions going forward. So everyone has accountability in this building 718 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 9: for every decision that's made, and that's how we approach it. 719 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 9: Everything is done collaboratively and that's how we want it 720 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 9: to happen, with full input from all the experience here, 721 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 9: and when the decision is made, everyone is held accountable 722 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 9: to it. 723 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 14: Mark in your mind, what does make this such a 724 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 14: critical off season. 725 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot of things going on, but certainly 726 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 9: we're positioned to have a significant number of draft picks. 727 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 9: We do have a nucleus of players that is extremely 728 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 9: solid here and so you know, as we pivot to 729 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 9: next season. Of course, every off season is critical, but 730 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 9: we're excited here about the possibilities with the draft capital 731 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 9: we now have and and taking a hard look at 732 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 9: free agency and where we can supplement given the parameters 733 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 9: in the league. 734 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 5: So we're excited about it, but we have to get 735 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 5: it right. 736 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 9: We need young players that we can build on for 737 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 9: the future and keep this thing moving forward. We've had 738 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 9: some success, but certainly we're disappointed where we were last 739 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 9: this past season, and we know our fans. 740 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 5: Want a lot more and we certainly want a lot more. 741 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 5: The last three questions with Chip Mark and keviny Mark. 742 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 15: Do you believe that Kevin O'Connell needs have a pretty 743 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 15: significant say or impact on this decision who's the next GM? 744 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 9: Well, I will tell you that this decision was one 745 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 9: hundred percent ownership decision. This is about our organization and 746 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 9: how we set up for success going forward. Coach O'Connell, 747 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 9: we have all the confidence in the world and Coach O'Connell, 748 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 9: he's done an excellent job as our head coach, but 749 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 9: we need to have the entire organization and he included 750 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 9: everyone is accountable here and so we need to move forward, 751 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 9: support the team we have now and make sure we 752 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 9: compete and strive. 753 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 5: And this was the way we came about with the decision. 754 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 9: But make no mistake, this was strictly an ownership and 755 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 9: organizational decision. 756 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 16: Yeah, Mark is wondering if you know going back circle 757 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 16: back to Rob his expertise as your cap guy, does 758 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 16: that help him or hurt him if you decide that 759 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 16: maybe he's a serious candidate. I mean, can he do 760 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 16: both roles? 761 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 9: You know, the way we view this role, it's about 762 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 9: leadership and leading a team, Like I said, an excellent 763 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 9: team of personnel. 764 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: Coaches, scouts, all the rest. And he's going to lead. 765 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 9: He's going to build a collaborative team or work with 766 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 9: the team we have and and and that's where the 767 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 9: expertise comes in here. So uh, he knows where he's 768 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 9: strong at, and he's going to know with his experience 769 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 9: where he can lean on. And there are a lot 770 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 9: of people to lean on in this building. So, like 771 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 9: I said, we have tremendous confidence and I'm very confident 772 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 9: in Rob his point person, with coach O'Connell and our 773 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 9: entire football staff, that we'll be able to navigate this, 774 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 9: navigate this well and move us for I. 775 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 16: Guess I meant to him getting a job permanently. I 776 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 16: understand you trust him to navigate this period, But if 777 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 16: he were to become like say, if you said his experience, 778 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 16: maybe he could be a. 779 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 10: GM, but you need as a CAF guy too. 780 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 9: Not gonna I respect the question, but you're not going 781 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 9: to rule anything in not going to rule anything out 782 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 9: at this time. We have so much work to do 783 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 9: in the next three months and make sure we get 784 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 9: the free agency and there to all of that exactly right. 785 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 9: That that's where we've told our entire football staff, that's 786 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 9: where our focus has to be, and we'll set up 787 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 9: the processes and be very thorough and not ruling anything 788 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 9: out going forward. 789 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 10: Hey, Mark, I respect that the decision was one hundred 790 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 10: percent made by ownership, but I wonder if anyone outside 791 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 10: of ownership suggested to you that Quacy should be fired 792 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 10: or do you should consider firing Quacy. 793 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 5: No one was suggesting that Quacy this or Quacy that. 794 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 9: We are in touch with everyone in the building, sensing 795 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 9: the dynamic, how people work together. 796 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: I think. 797 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 9: Again, it's a good collaborative situation. People get along here. 798 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 9: Everything was good. It's strictly a professional decision on where 799 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 9: we think the dynamic was best going forward. So, yes, 800 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 9: we got input from everybody, but nobody said, hey, you 801 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 9: got to fire. 802 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 5: No got a fire. 803 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 9: I mean it was about as ownership we said we're 804 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 9: not satisfied. We need to be better as an organization, 805 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 9: and this is the direction we. 806 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: Have to go. All right, Thank you all for doing it. 807 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 808 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta admit tent of me as we go 809 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: to break and get it ready for his little program 810 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: pass where li'll Bee will return and then Marnie and 811 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: the krisol. I don't really think I know any more 812 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: about what happened or where they've been, where they're going, 813 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: where they're at now than I didn't. 814 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 5: Burger. 815 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a little bit of nothing. 816 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 6: I agree with the decision, but the press conference turned 817 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 6: me out, and maybe I don't. 818 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 5: Like the decision. 819 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 9: Yeah. 820 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: Well, and the one thing was the best question was. 821 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: From was from Ben when he said, did the quarterback 822 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: thing have anything to do with it? 823 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, or you know, you guys. I don't know 824 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: if he asked that one, but. 825 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: He was, well, you signed him to an extension and 826 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: now you didn't what changed? 827 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: What changed? That's what changed? I think. 828 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that might be the only thing that it 829 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: could run deeper. We don't know everything that happens behind 830 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: closed doors, as Charlie rich wants sing saying, sung, but yeah, 831 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 832 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 2: I didn't learn much, but we. 833 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Do know that in closing and quasy Odolpha mensa is 834 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: alt Robertzinski will take the ring until after the draft, 835 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: and then they'll find another general manager. 836 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: We'll break, we'll come back with some program password. Here 837 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: in the van