Speaker 1: Going to be an American idiot by Scott Film here
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Speaker 2: So the House is not going to vote this week.
Speaker 3: And an extension to the Affordable Care Acts enhanced premium
Speaker 3: subsidies that's going to lapse at the end of the
Speaker 3: year unless something critical is done here don't look like it.
Speaker 3: Moderate Republicans are squeezed against the mega contingent of the
Speaker 3: Republican Party. So the moderates tried to put an extension together.
Speaker 3: The House Rules Committee blocked that, uh, because they're trying
Speaker 3: to attach that to the Geopece Healthcare plan, and that
Speaker 3: plan does not include an extension for the twenty million
Speaker 3: Americans who would be cut off by the end of
Speaker 3: the year. It's some wonky political crap that's going on.
Speaker 3: But Dean Clancy's here once again. He's a senior Health
Speaker 3: policy fellow at Americans for a Prosperity at AFP.
Speaker 2: Dean, welcome back. How you doing, I'm doing great. Thanks.
Speaker 3: We can all agree that our healthcare system sucks. I
Speaker 3: believe when you put it in this you put it
Speaker 3: to me. The end product is it's just it's simply
Speaker 3: not good. And we've talked about this in the past,
Speaker 3: and you know the idea that subsidies are a great alternative.
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a band aid patch. Why
Speaker 3: can't moderates get this done? And what's the resistance from
Speaker 3: the other side of the party here.
Speaker 4: Well, this whole issue of the expiring extra Obamacare subsidies,
Speaker 4: which has been you know, at the top of the
Speaker 4: news now for months, has been driven by Democrats and
Speaker 4: the press and looks on the left who smell an
Speaker 4: opportunity to put Republicans on the defensive in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: six and basically blame the high cost of healthcare on
Speaker 4: the GOP, which is a pretty amazing thing to try
Speaker 4: to do, since the high cost is really due to Obamacare,
Speaker 4: which is a completely Democratic party creation. And now the
Speaker 4: subsidies are going to expire on January once. Despite all
Speaker 4: the drama the modern Republicans who wanted to extend the subsidies.
Speaker 5: We're never able to.
Speaker 4: Solve some of the very simple practical problems, like how
Speaker 4: do you extend the subsidies without extending all the fraud
Speaker 4: and waste, the fake Social Security numbers, the phantom and rollees,
Speaker 4: and all the problems that the extra subsidies fueled. I
Speaker 4: think they realized they needed to do something, and they
Speaker 4: put some token reforms in. They also never dealt with
Speaker 4: the fact that the pro life community has said, well,
Speaker 4: any extension has to add protections so that there's no
Speaker 4: taxpayer funding of abortion, and this plan publicans basically just
Speaker 4: ignored that, which that makes the bill a non starter
Speaker 4: in Congress with all the pro life members. And then
Speaker 4: you have a Speaker Johnson this week saying sure, I'll
Speaker 4: let the House vote on an extension.
Speaker 2: But you do need to pay for it.
Speaker 4: You need to offset the cost. The cost is like
Speaker 4: twenty five to thirty billion dollars with a bee every
Speaker 4: single year that you extend the subsidies. That's a lot
Speaker 4: of money. And moderate Republicans said, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: we just want to extend the subsidies. We don't want
Speaker 4: to pay for it. We'll Uncle Sam's credit card. So
Speaker 4: they weren't serious in a sense, they were played by
Speaker 4: the Democrats who have disingenuously pretended that they want to
Speaker 4: continue the subsidies and prevent what they describe. I think
Speaker 4: they exaggerate as some kind of premium increase of they
Speaker 4: want an issue. They want to blame the failures of
Speaker 4: Obamacare on the Republican Party, and the question is will
Speaker 4: Republicans go along with that? So far it sounds like
Speaker 4: Mike Johnson and John Thune in the Senate and the
Speaker 4: other Republicans.
Speaker 6: Have they're falling for it. They're not, you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Loosey in the football and they're not going to fall
Speaker 4: for it this time.
Speaker 3: And on that, and we've talked about this in the past,
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is you're just you know,
Speaker 3: it's a subsidy fest, is what it is. And if
Speaker 3: you subsidize anything, you're just covering up the true cost.
Speaker 3: You're giving people a coupon a voucher basically, which ingratiates
Speaker 3: them with government and elected officials. Obviously, so politicians on
Speaker 3: the left get reelect and elected for that. But it
Speaker 3: doesn't solve the main issue, which is why is healthcare
Speaker 3: so afford unaffordable in the first place for most people?
Speaker 3: And that number is growing now. I did see some
Speaker 3: surveys it said if you have private healthcare insurance, which
Speaker 3: is the bulk of America, you seem to be pretty
Speaker 3: happy with that. But the problem there and then lies
Speaker 3: is the diminishing number of companies offering healthcare. I mean,
Speaker 3: at some point the scale's going to tip the other way.
Speaker 4: What then, Well, you're absolutely right about that. The number
Speaker 4: of companies employers offering healthcare has been shrinking under Obamacare.
Speaker 4: It's been very gradual, more so recently. And actually the
Speaker 4: Paragon Health Institute put out a paper recently where they
Speaker 4: noted that if the subsidies are extended, the extra COVID
Speaker 4: era money, it will actually accelerate the decline in small
Speaker 4: businesses offering insurance to their employees. Small businesses are really
Speaker 4: really hurt by the high cost of healthcare. They find
Speaker 4: it hard to offer you know, coverage to their employees.
Speaker 4: And and you know, Obamacare has become so much more
Speaker 4: generous than the federal subsidy for workplace coverage that it's
Speaker 4: like the employee for these employers, it's it's a real
Speaker 4: easy call. They'll just stop offering health addreds to their employees.
Speaker 3: Right right, which undermines the whole system. Like Obamacare is,
Speaker 3: like the idea was, hey, we get enough young people
Speaker 3: to pay for the older people who use care more
Speaker 3: then that that's fine. But so many young people because
Speaker 3: of because the economy, look at it go well, you know, what.
Speaker 3: I'm perfectly healthy. I'm not going to subscribe to this.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pay into a system that i
Speaker 3: may not have to take benefits out for some time
Speaker 3: if ever. That's all well and good, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: keep the system afloat. And so it's a Ponzi scheme,
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: For Democrats, it's all about the ultimate goal of putting
Speaker 4: the government completely in charge of our healthcare. And you know,
Speaker 4: so they like to cause crises and then exploit the crises,
Speaker 4: and in some ways that's what they're doing now now,
Speaker 4: you know. On the bright side, the Republicans, in addition
Speaker 4: to not buckling all this pressure to in a sense,
Speaker 4: bail out Obamacare and continue masking its failures, they've also
Speaker 4: started coming up with really good health reform ideas which
Speaker 4: they have been actually voting on. The House will vote
Speaker 4: either today or tomorrow on a bill that would actually
Speaker 4: reduce health insurance premiums for American workers, whereas the Democrats
Speaker 4: plan does not reduce health insurance premiums by a penny.
Speaker 4: Expanding Obamacare bailing it out, does not reduce the cost
Speaker 4: of healthcare, just masks it, and you know, there's some
Speaker 4: good stuff in the Republican bill that's going to be
Speaker 4: voted on it, things like association health plans, which you know,
Speaker 4: enable small businesses to group together so they can get
Speaker 4: large group discount rates, and that should lower premiums for
Speaker 4: those businesses by like thirty percent for their employees. There's
Speaker 4: also a provision in the bill that would end some
Speaker 4: of the inflationary waste in the Obamacare system where the
Speaker 4: insurers are basically incentivized to bloat their premiums at taxpayer expense,
Speaker 4: and that would not only save thirty billion dollars over
Speaker 4: ten years, but it would reduce Obamacare premiums generally by
Speaker 4: eleven percent. That actual relief for the people that we're
Speaker 4: talking about who are going to lose or see smaller
Speaker 4: subsidies in January. Again, the Democrat plan doesn't help those
Speaker 4: people at all, except with massive taxpayer But.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Do you know, I just saw new study numbers here,
Speaker 3: poll numbers, and they've been pretty consistent that independence especially
Speaker 3: factor into this as well. But something right around sixty
Speaker 3: percent of six out of ten people who are on
Speaker 3: the ACA think it works fine, that they actually like
Speaker 3: the Obamacare and their healthcare. That's a boulder Republicans are
Speaker 3: trying to push up. Hell, that's going to be difficult.
Speaker 4: Well, it's true that. Look in any health insurance subsidy scheme,
Speaker 4: most people are probably gonna like it because most people
Speaker 4: are healthy most of the time. They don't actually have
Speaker 4: to use the insurance. If it's a bad system, like
Speaker 4: one of these socialized medicine systems in Britain and Canada
Speaker 4: and so on, most people say it's great because they
Speaker 4: never have to interact with it. It's only when they
Speaker 4: do that they begin to see the serious flaws of
Speaker 4: government run healthcare. But you know you mentioned sixty percent.
Speaker 6: I'll give you a statistics.
Speaker 4: Sixty percent of the people who are on Obamacare now
Speaker 4: we'll be able to find a plan that costs them
Speaker 4: less than fifty dollars a month, less than two dollars
Speaker 4: a day, and yet we're told this is a premium apocalypse.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to find after January first, that
Speaker 4: the reports of the tsunami the apocalypse were greatly exaggerated.
Speaker 4: Probably hopefully Probably that will encourage Republicans to keep trying
Speaker 4: to reform healthcare, expand health savings accounts as they voted
Speaker 4: on in the Senate. In fact, we got fifty one
Speaker 4: senators last week to vote to basically let people who
Speaker 4: are on Obamacare take part of their subsidy as a
Speaker 4: deposit to a health savings account. So instead of that
Speaker 4: money going to and ensure, it's going to use the
Speaker 4: patient and you can decide what care and doctors you
Speaker 4: want to without without insurance company meddling. That's the future
Speaker 4: of American healthcare in our view, with Americans for Prosperity
Speaker 4: fund patients, not insurans.
Speaker 3: Dean Clancy's here, he's a senior health policy fellow Americans
Speaker 3: for Prosperity, And today the House, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: vote on that extension for the ACA jeprising up over
Speaker 3: twenty million Americans in their Obamacare.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: In debating what the what the Republican plan looks like?
Speaker 3: But again and I get it. You know, you give
Speaker 3: people money. Technically it should drive down costs because of
Speaker 3: you know, better competitional Like. One of the things in
Speaker 3: there though is, uh, you know, the funding, cost share
Speaker 3: reductions and price transparency. But Trump issued an executive order
Speaker 3: and price transparency what back in twenty ninety so six
Speaker 3: years ago, and hops are posting prices, but we're not
Speaker 3: seeing meaningful cost reduction. So if history is a indicator
Speaker 3: of future behavior, is this really going to matter?
Speaker 4: Dean, Well, we absolutely need price transparency, especially if we do.
Speaker 3: But they're not doing it. That's the prible even even
Speaker 3: with Frin's order.
Speaker 4: No, that's right there. Actually you said they're complying, but
Speaker 4: really they're not. They're putting out garbled information, they're hiding
Speaker 4: it on their websites. They're making it so you can't
Speaker 4: compare with their competitors. Trump's hospital price transparency mandate really
Speaker 4: has not worked. And this confirmed something that we had
Speaker 4: afp of long belief, which is you don't get price
Speaker 4: transparency through government mandates. You get it from markets, and
Speaker 4: markets happen when the consumer controls the dollars. Just like
Speaker 4: in the gas station of the grocery store, there's transparent
Speaker 4: prices there. Why because everybody's walking in carrying cash, they
Speaker 4: demand to see the prices. That's how you'll get it
Speaker 4: in healthcare too, and that's why we want everyone to
Speaker 4: have a health savings account and to be able to
Speaker 4: have insurance free options or options that are supplemental to
Speaker 4: insurance where you don't have some third party paying the bill.
Speaker 4: You pay the bill, and when that happens, prices become
Speaker 4: transparent naturally, right.
Speaker 3: But still the problem, of course is healthcare affordability. This
Speaker 3: may drive some of the costs down. I mean, we
Speaker 3: just talked about Trump's order price transparency, which is not working.
Speaker 3: I'll hold my breath and see if this plan actually
Speaker 3: lowers prices. In theory, it may, But what do you
Speaker 3: tell someone who's going to lose their healthcare as of
Speaker 3: December thirty first of this year. I get why subsidies exist,
Speaker 3: and I hate them as much as you do. But
Speaker 3: for someone who otherwise can't afford health insurance and you
Speaker 3: look at it, going, well, they're going to take this
Speaker 3: away from me, where do you go?
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 3: It's not about giving you your dollars back in life,
Speaker 3: because so many people are making a choice these days
Speaker 3: and going I just simply can't afford healthcare, or you're younger,
Speaker 3: which is the big problem with Obamacare. And I'm not
Speaker 3: going to pay into the system at all. If I
Speaker 3: get really, really sick, I'll go to the hospital and
Speaker 3: I have to treat me. They have no choice. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are seeing that as the
Speaker 3: nuclear option, so to speak. Doesn't that undermine the whole system?
Speaker 4: It does, and you put your finger on the real question,
Speaker 4: which is healthcare affordability. The folks who are going to
Speaker 4: be receiving smaller subsidies, by the way, it's still going
Speaker 4: to be very generous. Obamacare is still going to cover
Speaker 4: like eighty percent of the cost of your health insurance policy,
Speaker 4: which is a pretty nice deal. But for those who
Speaker 4: are negatively affected, some of you, they have options. For example,
Speaker 4: some can just switch to a less costly insurance plan.
Speaker 4: You know, you have a menu of plans you can
Speaker 4: choose from. Maybe you downgrade from what they call silver
Speaker 4: to bronze, and so you still have insurance, but it
Speaker 4: costs you less. Number of the people that are affected
Speaker 4: actually have access to workplace insurance, either directly or through
Speaker 4: a spouse. And there are even some who are eligible
Speaker 4: and sometimes even enrolled on Medicaid, the program for low
Speaker 4: income of folks. That's not technically not lawful. You're not
Speaker 4: supposed to be on both Obamacare and Medicaid simultaneously, but
Speaker 4: it turns out there are millions of people who are
Speaker 4: because the government does not police it well, the real
Speaker 4: hard cases are going to be the folks who make
Speaker 4: more than about for an individual, about sixty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: a year. That's the anecdotes you're going to see in
Speaker 4: the headlines because some of them are going to see
Speaker 4: a really big increase in out of pocket why because
Speaker 4: they're going to lose their subsidy altogether. These are folks
Speaker 4: that Democrats, you know, four years ago, thought shouldn't get
Speaker 4: any subsidy at all. But they're going to be the
Speaker 4: sob stories. But those people represent just one half of
Speaker 4: one percent of the US population. I do think they
Speaker 4: are going to need some kind of help, but expanding
Speaker 4: Obamacare is not the way to do it. Better to
Speaker 4: do the things like Republicans are proposing to bring actually
Speaker 4: bring down the price of health insurance for everybody, not
Speaker 4: just the seven percent of Americans who are on Obamacare,
Speaker 4: but for the ninety three percent as well who are
Speaker 4: not on Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Right, makes sense.
Speaker 3: We'll revisit this, I'm sure after the first of the year,
Speaker 3: when everyone will running around with their hair on fire, screaming,
Speaker 3: and as always, it's not as bad as they're making
Speaker 3: out to be. But again, if you look at the
Speaker 3: political implications here.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's not a good look for the Republicans for sure,
Speaker 3: not to be able to come up sort of compromise
Speaker 3: to at least negotiating extent. It gives Congress the aura
Speaker 3: of an inefficient incompetency in a sense, because you know,
Speaker 3: we're again just kicking the can down the road and
Speaker 3: not addressing anything, and eventually the bomb's going to explode,
Speaker 3: is how it goes. Dean Clancy at Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 3: Thanks again for the time. Do you know I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thanks again.
Speaker 3: We'll get a news update in here in just minutes.
Speaker 3: On seven hundred WLW and Win a return on the
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan Show. Today, Mark's an important day in Ohio
Speaker 3: sports history.
Speaker 2: Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3: Details right after this on seven hundred WW, I's Lona
Speaker 3: here seven hundred ww Welcome to it.
Speaker 2: Midweek, Here we go.
Speaker 3: A monumental day today, a monumental day in history. On
Speaker 3: this date in nineteen hundred and ninety five, the Cleveland
Speaker 3: Browns hosted their final game before they moved the franchise
Speaker 3: to Baltimore, where they won their first Super Bowl in
Speaker 3: six years. Six years took them to achieve glory after
Speaker 3: leaving Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Get the dust at Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I've got this audio Matt Reese in the closing minutes
Speaker 3: of that game back in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: Here you go.
Speaker 7: We got about a minute twenty left in the game
Speaker 7: at this point, and it's getting very ugly. In the
Speaker 7: Dog Pound, they are lifting the bleacher seats out and
Speaker 7: throwing them down by the gold Post act of goodwill,
Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns are heading to the Dog Pound and
Speaker 7: are embracing the fans who just a few minutes ago
Speaker 7: were throwing bleacher benches out onto the field. All the
Speaker 7: way around, it seems as though the security is holding
Speaker 7: people back. There is no great rush to the field,
Speaker 7: and this act of gratitude by the Cleveland Browns seems
Speaker 7: to be keeping those bands from rushing the field. There's
Speaker 7: a bunch of debris all around. There are actually benches
Speaker 7: and seat sections that.
Speaker 2: Have been thrown onto the field.
Speaker 7: I four three two one, and that will do it
Speaker 7: for the Cleveland Browns. At Municipal Stadium, the Bengals have
Speaker 7: lost twenty six to ten.
Speaker 3: Carsla was right. They're throwing Bengals. They're throwing stuff on
Speaker 3: the field. They're throwing bleachers on the field out of anger. Ugh,
Speaker 3: I remember those days. I remember those days as a
Speaker 3: younger version of myself. They got a new franchise that
Speaker 3: at night. So that's ninety five, ninety nine, they get
Speaker 3: a franchise and since then they have They've been through
Speaker 3: forty one quarterbacks. They have lost, ad have ted twenty
Speaker 3: two losing seasons in twenty six years. And when it
Speaker 3: comes to success, three times they went to the postseason
Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety nine, lost in the wild card round twice,
Speaker 3: so bumped out the first round and then advanced to
Speaker 3: the divisional round. Just once, just once, you know, you
Speaker 3: examined that. And by the way, as he pointed out,
Speaker 3: the Bengals lost to that awful team that season. The
Speaker 3: futility of football in the Buckeye State, it is an
Speaker 3: exercise in futility. I mean the Bengals, I think this
Speaker 3: will be their sixteenth losing season since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: Certainly not as bad as Cleveland. They hold the all
Speaker 3: time suck record at twenty two. But you know, you
Speaker 3: talk about the season that could have been here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: and obviously we love to relish in the pain of
Speaker 3: other teams, especially divisional opponents in Cleveland that want to
Speaker 3: see them do well.
Speaker 2: Do I want to see Pittsburgh do well?
Speaker 3: Certainly they want to see Baltimore do well. But here
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, it's not like we don't have our own problems.
Speaker 3: We can commiserate with the Browns fans. They lost the franchise,
Speaker 3: they got it back, and some may ask, well, weren't
Speaker 3: they just maybe just better off not having a football
Speaker 3: team at this point. We often have that conversation in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: We have certainly had success, more success than the Browns
Speaker 3: with multiple owners and mentioned head coaches and just going
Speaker 3: through them. We don't do that here in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 3: don't think that's anything to hang your hat on. It
Speaker 3: seems rather like low hanging fruit or just simply low expectations, like, well,
Speaker 3: at least we're not Cleveland, that's true, or not Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: or Baltimore either would be nice to achieve some level
Speaker 3: of success, go to the Super Bowl and losing it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all around good. I know all about that.
Speaker 3: As a Bills fan, I just would like to see
Speaker 3: one of my teams do something in my lifetime. Is
Speaker 3: that too much to ask? The answer is it probably is.
Speaker 3: It probably is, But especially considering you know, seat gates.
Speaker 3: Speaking of seats ending up on the field, we couldn't
Speaker 3: do that on Sunday at pay Court simply because they
Speaker 3: were frozen and buried under eight inches of ice that
Speaker 3: they didn't bother to clean off. But nonetheless, the futility
Speaker 3: of being a football fan in Ohio is something else.
Speaker 2: It's just a whole different level. It really really is.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety five Browns final game against the Bengals. Bengals
Speaker 3: loose against a franchise that was pulling up steaks and
Speaker 3: leaving fantastic. This morning, I'm flipping around we have in
Speaker 3: the newsroom, as you imagine, all right, sitting have coffee
Speaker 3: and waste people's time. Prior to the show The Fox
Speaker 3: nineteen and Ken Baker over there, who does the kicking
Speaker 3: with Ken segmentar. He goes around town do different stuff.
Speaker 2: I noticed it.
Speaker 3: I did not know this, but today he was at
Speaker 3: the French chew factory, which I had no idea French
Speaker 3: chews were made in Cincinnati. Furthermore, it is one of
Speaker 3: those very interesting head scratching kind of things where you go.
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen French chew before, like in the
Speaker 3: candy aisle at checkout counters. Occasionally see it there, maybe
Speaker 3: not as much as he used to. And you at
Speaker 3: the same time, I don't know anyone have seen anyone
Speaker 3: ever buy French shoe. I mean it exists, somebody's eating it.
Speaker 3: I have no idea if it's like taffy or what.
Speaker 3: And I'm not insulting and throwing shade at the French
Speaker 3: jew people here in Cincinnati, but just seems like a
Speaker 3: weird thing. Like you know, opera cream is different because
Speaker 3: it's only during Easter. You get the opera creams during Easter. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's like a once yea, hey got it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: It's a big thing, that French shoe. It's around, but
Speaker 3: you never see one eating it. It's a weird thing,
Speaker 3: really really strange. This leaves me scratching my head. Anyway,
Speaker 3: We've got lots to get to today. On this Wednesday mornings,
Speaker 3: he wind it down for the holidays. A lot of folks,
Speaker 3: I know, it's a fewer and fewer people with the
Speaker 3: passing days here on the road. And I would suggest
Speaker 3: that next week especially probably not going to be many
Speaker 3: people at work because the way the holiday falls, folks
Speaker 3: will be burning their vacation days as well. Your damn
Speaker 3: should you can't take them with you, right, can't take
Speaker 3: vacation days when you're dead. So yeah, just we're kind
Speaker 3: of winding it down towards the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you later the show here on seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW, we do have. It's not like, you know,
Speaker 3: the news cycle is over, there's nothing going on, because
Speaker 3: there are a few things, namely, tonight President Trump will
Speaker 3: address the nation, and I think we have uc basketball
Speaker 3: here on seven hundred WW and we have Xavier basketball
Speaker 3: on fifty five KRC. But you know, talking about to
Speaker 3: Michelle Schultz, especially in the eleven o'clock hour, she's a trade attorney,
Speaker 3: and leaves me scratched my haut. Tonight, the President's going
Speaker 3: to talk about this. I'd imagine healthcare may be part
Speaker 3: of the plan. I don't know if he's gonna talk
Speaker 3: about it, but basically it says, hey, you know what,
Speaker 3: affordability might be a figment of your imagination.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that to me.
Speaker 3: You know, of all the stuff that politicians try to
Speaker 3: sell you on, I you know, better than anybody if
Speaker 3: stuff more costs more than it did a year ago
Speaker 3: or whenever it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's it's the economy stupid.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Being told is like, well, no, you're fine, everything's good.
Speaker 3: It really that doesn't play with most people. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know exactly how much money you have in your
Speaker 3: checking and savings account and how much you can afford,
Speaker 3: and when you go in, and the price of beef
Speaker 3: and everything else is through the roof. Albeit the one
Speaker 3: saving grace would of course be gas prices are very low.
Speaker 3: But at the same time you go in, you know,
Speaker 3: may take that money you're filling your car up with
Speaker 3: and having to buy I don't know, beef, maybe some
Speaker 3: ground beef, and it's it's prohibitively expensive for a lot
Speaker 3: of people. Yeah, one I noticed I like to eat.
Speaker 3: I notice the price going Man, beef feels like a
Speaker 3: luxury these days, it really does. And chicken thighs and
Speaker 3: like the are still pretty cheap. But again, you know,
Speaker 3: a price everything is going up. This is how it is.
Speaker 2: He's going to try to tell people, maybe what the
Speaker 2: plan is. I wonder.
Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't lean into the it's all a
Speaker 3: lie by the Democrats, because that's going to go over
Speaker 3: like a fart in church. Let's call it what that is.
Speaker 3: But relative to the terroraces I was talking about, we'll
Speaker 3: get into that a little bit later on with Michelle
Speaker 3: Schultzi's a trade attorney. I think it's interesting because today
Speaker 3: this goes to show you the hypocrisy of politics. So today,
Speaker 3: relative to the Affordable Care Act, which is not of course,
Speaker 3: anything you subsidize is not afford You're making it look
Speaker 3: like it's affordable.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: You're just taking money from somewhere else and giving it
Speaker 3: to people to make it look for them that it's affordable.
Speaker 3: It's not affordable. Affordable Care acts a joke. It drives
Speaker 3: the cost up. Subsidy makes stuff cost more, not less.
Speaker 3: So moderate Republicans are trying to squeeze the party and saying, look,
Speaker 3: we've got to at least extend this for a year
Speaker 3: or two so we can sort this out. Because our
Speaker 3: seats are in jeopardy. People are going to hold us
Speaker 3: responsible if you have some twenty what twenty two million
Speaker 3: Americans get their subsidies cut, there's gonna be backlash for that.
Speaker 3: We may have to pay the political price for that.
Speaker 3: Republicans locked them out, said we're not budging on this,
Speaker 3: and we're going to introduce our own plan today and
Speaker 3: move forward on that when it does include more subsidies
Speaker 3: for Obamacare. Okay, got it. So subsidies are bad. Remember
Speaker 3: that subsidies are bad. Tonight, at nine o'clock, the President's
Speaker 3: going to talk about the tariffs, and I'm gonna guess
Speaker 3: he's going to go, Look, here's what we're going to
Speaker 3: do with all this money, the nearly quarter trillion dollars
Speaker 3: that we got from tariffs. We're going to do what
Speaker 3: with Well, what we're going to do is maybe give
Speaker 3: you a check for two thousand dollars. Maybe what we're
Speaker 3: going to do is pay down the deficit. Probably not.
Speaker 3: What we're going to do are tax cuts, eliminating income taxes,
Speaker 3: all this stuff that we're going to do some eight
Speaker 3: different plans to spend the tariff money that's come in.
Speaker 3: I would look at it and go, well, okay, didn't
Speaker 3: we just give farmers here in Ohio specifically lost like
Speaker 3: seventy six million dollars in exports to China.
Speaker 2: We give them?
Speaker 3: We did on top of what happened last round twelve
Speaker 3: billion dollars in bailouts. Meanwhile, we've lost seventeen billion to
Speaker 3: China on agricultural trade alone. So isn't that a subsidy?
Speaker 3: And the answer would be, yeah, that's a subsidy. Like
Speaker 3: wait a minute, we're against subsidies with healthcare, but we're
Speaker 3: for them when it comes to tariffs and farmers. Yes,
Speaker 3: that is called Washington logic.
Speaker 2: Is what that is?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know why you're in support of
Speaker 3: the president if it's still where it was when he
Speaker 3: got a lot when you voted for him, or maybe
Speaker 3: it's wane as for a lot of people as well.
Speaker 3: That certainly doesn't help the case. And you know, the
Speaker 3: idea that we're going to go and drain the swamp
Speaker 3: and do things differently and shake it up.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That sounds like more Washington politics to me, which leaves
Speaker 3: a lot of people. And I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people who voted for Trump and the administration, I think
Speaker 3: it leaves them don't feel like you're holding the bag,
Speaker 3: so to speak. I think you can't be against tariffs
Speaker 3: when it's healthcare, but for them when it's for farmers,
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make any said terrorists, it's a terror
Speaker 3: or terriffs. Can't be against subsidy. Rather, I should say
Speaker 3: when it's healthcare versus farmers, same thing. Quit taking the
Speaker 3: money and giving it to other people. Why not just
Speaker 3: fix the issue? How do you make healthcare affordable? Get
Speaker 3: the hell out of the healthcare game. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people buy their own health care in the free market.
Speaker 3: The money you save from all this other nonsense can
Speaker 3: go to helping the indigen and the working poor, which
Speaker 3: we should make the system work better. Give them the
Speaker 3: money they can spend it in the open market. Get
Speaker 3: your employer out of that line of work. But a
Speaker 3: lot of Americans, Americans like the healthcare they get in
Speaker 3: private sector and won't give that up. And conversely, now
Speaker 3: study came out shows about sixty six and ten Americans
Speaker 3: and that number has been consistent when they pull that
Speaker 3: they like their affordable character, they like their Obamacare. So
Speaker 3: you have those two things that are removable objects.
Speaker 2: What now? What now? Five and three?
Speaker 6: Seven?
Speaker 3: The big one on the French chew topic. Real quick,
Speaker 3: here will in Northern Kentucky on the Big one will
Speaker 3: give me the update on French chew.
Speaker 8: Hey, Tony, how are you doing I'm the guy that
Speaker 8: started that World War two bet. His name was Harry Dosher, okay,
Speaker 8: and they also made the Easter eggs every year still
Speaker 8: they still do. But he was down on Court Street
Speaker 8: by downtown soon set. He is there probably for I
Speaker 8: think I think his grandfather even started. It's what I
Speaker 8: remember the story seeing a picture on the wall. He
Speaker 8: was in there a couple of times doing some work.
Speaker 8: So anyway, great guy World War two bet Court Street.
Speaker 8: He makes the Dosher Easter eggs too, Gosha. So I
Speaker 8: think what sold off back in the mid ninety first,
Speaker 8: excuse me, mid two thousands, I think a sun owner
Speaker 8: per while.
Speaker 6: Then eventually it was bloked by.
Speaker 3: Another Doser makes They make candy canes too, don't they.
Speaker 1: Yes, they do, okay, I thought knew that name right.
Speaker 3: Right right, love the little can Little candy canes are
Speaker 3: the best. It's just the right to the the fun
Speaker 3: sized candy canes.
Speaker 2: If you will.
Speaker 8: I always said, you know, the French choo is actually
Speaker 8: invented by a dentist, you know, but.
Speaker 2: Well it's kind of like it's it's like taffy.
Speaker 8: Right, Oh yeah, I never did, no understand. I meant
Speaker 8: they asked him how he came up with that named
Speaker 8: Harry died several years ago, but you know how it
Speaker 8: came up with that name French chew, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and as I said, it's it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: around and you know that, Oh yeah, French chew. I've
Speaker 3: seen it like a checkout or you know, we're candy
Speaker 3: or candy aisle. But I've never seen anyone actually buy
Speaker 3: it or jew out. I like walking by going, hey,
Speaker 3: somebody's having French chew. You just it's been around, it's there.
Speaker 3: They make a lot of it. I just don't know
Speaker 3: anyone who's eating it well.
Speaker 8: Was also in the American Legion. Harry was a big
Speaker 8: support of the American Legion. Roseland and but it was
Speaker 8: you know, we would get to merriedan to the family.
Speaker 8: We'd get boxes of those things.
Speaker 3: To the point where you to the point where you go, okay,
Speaker 3: I've but enough French chew.
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty good here.
Speaker 3: It gives you your teeth a good work out because
Speaker 3: that stuff is sticky stick you know. When McConnell retired,
Speaker 3: he took the Reese's Peanut butter cups with him. Because
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Rees's but and I think
Speaker 3: the guy who brought him into mic, like, I mean
Speaker 3: for a while, you know the story, like once a
Speaker 3: month he brings a case of different races and we've
Speaker 3: got the Christmas trees for the holidays, and the regular
Speaker 3: ones are new ones that came the Oreo flavored ones,
Speaker 3: and we all probably put on ten pounds each, I
Speaker 3: think over the last couple of years from the gratuitous
Speaker 3: display of Reeses, which I'm a huge fan of. I
Speaker 3: love chocolate, I love peanut butter. Together it is magic.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just started doing that with French chee. I'll
Speaker 3: be the French Chew ambassador. Yeah, we got but they
Speaker 3: got vanilla. I know there's vanilla. There's a bunch of
Speaker 3: different flavors as well. It's just a it's a funny thing,
Speaker 3: not throwing shade against French Chew Cincinnati Company. And it's
Speaker 3: been going on obviously since World War Two, so that's awesome.
Speaker 3: But just you see it and you go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't know what's made here. And then secondly it's
Speaker 3: like I don't recall anyone going yacht. What's your favorite candy?
Speaker 3: French Chew. Maybe it'll come back like everything. It's all retro, baby,
Speaker 3: it's all retro these days. Uh and five one three
Speaker 3: for nine seven thousand. Dave on the French chew topic.
Speaker 3: I think I've hit a nerve here. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 9: Yes, the French cho is made in Newtown, yep. And
Speaker 9: they also make the dots, the candy dots on the paper.
Speaker 3: Oh really, the dot the not not the dots dots,
Speaker 3: the dots in the box, but the ones that are
Speaker 3: in paper, right, sugar dots. Yeah, yeah, okay, I've seen
Speaker 3: those before. I didn't know they made those two.
Speaker 9: Yes, And they make full size candy canes all different, gotcha?
Speaker 1: All right, that's all. Yeah? Good.
Speaker 2: Have you had a French chew?
Speaker 6: It's been years, okay.
Speaker 2: I think that's.
Speaker 3: Also part of the problem, right, It's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: been a long time, and I'm sure I've had a
Speaker 3: French chew before. I just can't recall how remarkable it was,
Speaker 3: that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The dots on paper, I remember, get those. I wonder that, like,
Speaker 3: I think I still make them. It just it struck
Speaker 3: me as maybe after and I wasn't born then, but
Speaker 3: it struck me during the sixties Zeitgeist when people were
Speaker 3: dropping acid that maybe candy on paper. I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you're gonna start handle those in Halloween. You might look
Speaker 3: at it a little side. I going, yeah, dots of
Speaker 3: sugar on paper? What could go wrong there on a
Speaker 3: little wax paper. But I suppose if it's packaged up
Speaker 3: or whatever. And you know, if you're a kid, you
Speaker 3: don't care.
Speaker 2: Sugar pixie sticks Just basically eating powdered kool.
Speaker 3: Aid is what we're doing. Love the pisy and pixie sticks.
Speaker 3: You just give me sugar in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 3: I know everyone wants to talk about talk about the
Speaker 3: French chew when we've picked that up some other time.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I gotta get a news update, and here
Speaker 3: find it at the very latest. What's happening in and
Speaker 3: around the world. Mentioned the President speaking tonight at nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: When return on the Scotts Loan Show a little bit
Speaker 3: after ten o'clock here on seven hundred WLW, I mentioned
Speaker 3: I had Dean Clancy on earlier talking about talking about
Speaker 3: the vote on healthcare coming up.
Speaker 2: As Michael is eis we all worry about aging?
Speaker 3: The older you get, the more fearful you are of
Speaker 3: dying and trying to do things to hold back the
Speaker 3: hands of time.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 3: Probably don't care as much as you're eighteen than when
Speaker 3: you're eighty about things like that. However, we have new
Speaker 3: science involving slowing down aging. How much can you slow
Speaker 3: aging down?
Speaker 9: On?
Speaker 2: What does it take?
Speaker 3: We'll get to that with Michael afternoons on the Home
Speaker 3: of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWT Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 3: Slowly backcoun seven hundred ww AG Oh yeah, that is
Speaker 3: aging optional. No, we all age, but you can slow
Speaker 3: it down a bit. The question is how, and the
Speaker 3: answer is science, our healthcare system, our culture in general.
Speaker 3: We pretty much focus on treating symptoms and not prevention,
Speaker 3: and that is a I think that's a big problem
Speaker 3: for us, but that's how we think, that's how we're programmed.
Speaker 3: He is doctor Michael Azaz. He's an internist and regenitive
Speaker 3: medicine specialist. And there are three or four big things
Speaker 3: you need to know if you want to slow your
Speaker 3: aging down a little bit. Not as important, probably not
Speaker 3: feel it your twenties or thirties, but the time you
Speaker 3: hit that forty year old mark on your old odometer,
Speaker 3: you start thinking, man, things are getting sore, I'm getting
Speaker 3: tired faster and all that stuff as well. And the
Speaker 3: solution may be something you can do yourself. Doctor Z's
Speaker 3: welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: How are you good morning? Thank you so much for
Speaker 6: having me, Scott.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you agree on that too. As we tend
Speaker 3: to treat symptoms and diagnosies and go, okay, well we
Speaker 3: have a medicine for this, but instead instead of fixing
Speaker 3: what's ailing you, we just kind of prop things up
Speaker 3: and mask over the signs.
Speaker 6: That is totally true. We tend to accept getting older
Speaker 6: as something that we need to take for granted and
Speaker 6: it's normal to get older. But if we treat aging
Speaker 6: as a disease, which is a you concept and medicine,
Speaker 6: we can age in a totally different way and prevent
Speaker 6: chronic ASI raviss from happening in the first place. And
Speaker 6: that's what I talk about in my books.
Speaker 3: Let's go through that too, And it's something I do
Speaker 3: a few of these things already, and I've said this
Speaker 3: is a year I'm going to get more much more
Speaker 3: serious about it. I think as I get closer and
Speaker 3: closer to the big six to oh, farther away from
Speaker 3: the big five oh and closer to the six to o.
Speaker 2: And I do, and it works for me. I do
Speaker 2: intermittent fasting.
Speaker 3: And also I'll probably last meal I'll have is I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe anywhere between five and seven o'clock and
Speaker 3: won't eat until after twelve o'clock the next day. And
Speaker 3: for those of my god, how are you doing that?
Speaker 3: I think it's easier as you get older because your
Speaker 3: body needs less calories to function. So let's talk about
Speaker 3: intermittent fasting and why that is so good for you.
Speaker 6: All right, So, one of the whole marks of aging
Speaker 6: is we have a young cells in our bodies and
Speaker 6: we have old sellsand our bodies. And the old cells
Speaker 6: not only do not function our bodies, but they also
Speaker 6: discrupt the young cells. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 6: why we get older. And by doing what you're doing,
Speaker 6: intermittent fasting or not eating for a period of time,
Speaker 6: you're getting rid of the old cells. So the body
Speaker 6: is like screaming, is like, what's happening is that person's starving?
Speaker 6: So the body starts to eat the dead cells, the
Speaker 6: cancer cells, and how intermittent fasting works in longevity. I'm
Speaker 6: not a fan of prolonged fasting where you don't eat
Speaker 6: for several days because you can lose muscle masks if
Speaker 6: you skip a meal or eating between. Just eat our period.
Speaker 6: That's great as long as you're eating the balance diet,
Speaker 6: which in protein and antioxins and vitamins. You get rid
Speaker 6: of the old cells. It's in essence cells and one
Speaker 6: way to prolonged life, and that has been proven to
Speaker 6: prolonged life in many animal studies, even monkeys, so probably
Speaker 6: will do the same in humans as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, atopogy is what it's called.
Speaker 3: So basically as I understood it, and the simple way
Speaker 3: to explain this is like your body is always looking
Speaker 3: for something to do. Your body is very very busy,
Speaker 3: even though you may be sleeping or whatever, it's looking
Speaker 3: for stuff to do. And if it's not busy digesting
Speaker 3: food and try and figure out, you know, where to
Speaker 3: send all the things here. It does housekeeping. It basically
Speaker 3: cleans house and that is cleaning up all the old
Speaker 3: dead cells. Some of those could promote things like cancer
Speaker 3: and other illnesses.
Speaker 6: That is totally true. And you know in the Middle East,
Speaker 6: the rates of cancer are eighty five percent than the
Speaker 6: United States and Europe. And that's because of the intermittent
Speaker 6: fasting they do during the religious holiday of Ramadan. So
Speaker 6: even though they eat massive amounts of sugar in eight
Speaker 6: hour period, that period of it's kind of intermittent fasting.
Speaker 6: It's promotes authosogy and it kills the sentis themselves. So
Speaker 6: that's something we can learn from different countries around the world.
Speaker 6: That that's what I share in the book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could eat one big meal a day,
Speaker 3: you can pretty much eat, you know, with a restriction.
Speaker 3: You can't go out an entire trail asagna or you know,
Speaker 3: three large pizzas, but you can eat your food and
Speaker 3: be full and still being a calorie deficit.
Speaker 2: So it also helps to lose weight, right, you.
Speaker 6: Know, you're talking like Brian Johnson who's pretty much just
Speaker 6: eating once one meal.
Speaker 1: Of a day.
Speaker 6: That's very tough, but that probably has the most impact
Speaker 6: on longevity. But I would say we have to enjoy life.
Speaker 6: I'm not a fan of just not eating for a
Speaker 6: long time. But what you're doing is totally good because
Speaker 6: just eating an eight hour period is doable, is manageable.
Speaker 6: You're not depriving yourself and you're probably going to get
Speaker 6: the same benefits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now if you're busy too, if I'm doing
Speaker 3: a construction type of stuf, might have a bigger lunch
Speaker 3: and a decent sized dinner. But if I'm not, then
Speaker 3: it just you know, you gotta listen to your body
Speaker 3: and not stuff yourself all the time. And that's easier
Speaker 3: said than done because food is so damn good. So
Speaker 3: intermittnfasting one thing you could do to slow down aging.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about processed foods and anti inflammatories and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. And the thing is, as you get older,
Speaker 3: you notice your body is so much more inflamed. What
Speaker 3: is your body telling you if you suffer from inflammation?
Speaker 6: So what happens is the old self we have in
Speaker 6: our bodies are also not just not functioning, but they
Speaker 6: also are secreting inflammatory proteins. And that's why how aging happens.
Speaker 6: And before you know it, you get wrinkled skin, you
Speaker 6: can get joint issues, you can get stomach issues, you
Speaker 6: can get weight gain, and that's inflammation. And one way
Speaker 6: to control aging is control inflammation by again intermittent facting,
Speaker 6: but by also eating a balanced diet which an empty oxidant, vitamins, mineral, superfoods.
Speaker 6: People have to lose weight because belly fat is linked
Speaker 6: to inflammation when we have so much fat around our bellies,
Speaker 6: that's thee greet also inflammatory markers which are very bad
Speaker 6: for ourselves. So it's you have to control inflammation if
Speaker 6: you want to age in a good way.
Speaker 3: One thing, my wife did this not long ago because
Speaker 3: she was having just not feeling well and she went
Speaker 3: someone recommended a and I forget what the name of
Speaker 3: it is, but basically as a diet tissue who focuses
Speaker 3: on that, and did a whole bunch of tests and
Speaker 3: found out that she had a gluten sensitivity, and so
Speaker 3: things like gluten also eggs, mushrooms like weird stuff she
Speaker 3: could eat. And she's taken those things out of her
Speaker 3: dial largely and feels so much better.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: Food allergies. Of course, if you have foodgies, that can
Speaker 6: also cause inflammation, so that's a good way to get tested.
Speaker 6: You can do a skin test, you can do a
Speaker 6: blood test. That's your doctor's office to make sure to
Speaker 6: avoid the types of food that you're intolerant to. Gluten
Speaker 6: intolerance is very rare. It's only one in two hundred
Speaker 6: people who have it. But if you have gluten intolerance
Speaker 6: or if you have civic disease, definitely have to avoid
Speaker 6: grains because that can cause it inflammation and just being
Speaker 6: on top of health. We have a habit in the
Speaker 6: United States and we get a physical just once year,
Speaker 6: and we think we're going to age in a different
Speaker 6: way and we go on top of our health. But
Speaker 6: really we have to think differently. We have to treat
Speaker 6: aging the disease. We have to take a proactive approach.
Speaker 6: We have to know our food allergies. We have to
Speaker 6: know if there's inflammation. We have to be in a
Speaker 6: good way. We have to control aging by supplements, medications
Speaker 6: and so on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, as sactor Michael is Eas, he's an
Speaker 3: Internet regenitive medicine specialists. In his books The Ageous Revolution,
Speaker 3: and the question is how do you slow down age?
Speaker 3: Can't stop it, obviously, but you can help yourself as
Speaker 3: you get older. There's things like intermitt and fasting. We're
Speaker 3: talking about proving processed foods from you diet and can
Speaker 3: you not eat? You know, are you so strict that
Speaker 3: you shouldn't need any of this stuff? I mean, who
Speaker 3: doesn't like a good cheeseburger once in a while, or
Speaker 3: I mentioned a pizza or something like that. Do you
Speaker 3: have to sustain yourself completely on whole grains? Could you
Speaker 3: work in a cheap day or two there? How's that work?
Speaker 6: The problem in the American diet fifty percent of our
Speaker 6: diet now is process and that's bad. When we eat
Speaker 6: process food, we find carbohydrate pizza, doughnut, sugar that promote aging.
Speaker 6: And we have to lower the amount of process food
Speaker 6: we eat. I don't think we can eliminate it totally.
Speaker 6: I think if we go down to ten percent, maybe
Speaker 6: so having it, you know, a pizza once in a while,
Speaker 6: thin cross whole weeks with a lot of vegetables. That's
Speaker 6: a good way. And if you're eating a balanced diet
Speaker 6: which in antioxidens, vitamins, and minerals, and you're exercising, you
Speaker 6: can probably counter effect the effect of process food that
Speaker 6: you're eating on occasions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gut health is another one too that we don't
Speaker 3: pay attention to. Years ago, as in the hospital, got
Speaker 3: seediff and had to eat a lot of yogurt and
Speaker 3: kafir and things like that, and you kind of notice
Speaker 3: you feel a little bit better when you have those
Speaker 3: enzymes in your gut.
Speaker 6: Yes, so gut heals is one of the whole marks
Speaker 6: of aging that I talk about in my book, and
Speaker 6: I talk in my book also about the countries that
Speaker 6: have the longest lifespan and the Blue zones where many
Speaker 6: of them live to one hundred and many of those
Speaker 6: countries they eat a diet that is rich in probiotics.
Speaker 6: They eat fermented food. Even countries not like the Blue zones,
Speaker 6: like South Korea, they eat kinshi. The women in South
Speaker 6: Korea are going to be the first to lift the
Speaker 6: age ninety. And the reason got's so important because in
Speaker 6: our gut lists pillions of bacteria. We have more gut
Speaker 6: bacteria than thousand our bodies. And those bacteria promote longevity
Speaker 6: by doing vitamin K two, which prevents heart attack. They
Speaker 6: make a product called eulescene which supplies the mitochondria, the
Speaker 6: mitochondria or the bats of ourselves. And if we have
Speaker 6: bad bacteria, then we have back to inflammation what we
Speaker 6: just talked about and believe in not Scott, we have
Speaker 6: a big problem when we're eating a lot of process foods.
Speaker 6: We're not eating for mented foods we're not eating enough yogurt,
Speaker 6: and that's why gout is very poor. And we have
Speaker 6: now an epidemic of calling cancer in men below age fifty.
Speaker 6: And again it has to do with inflammation. So calling
Speaker 6: cancer's number one cancer now in men below age fifty.
Speaker 6: It has to do with our poor gut health.
Speaker 2: How much of this has to do with genetics.
Speaker 3: You've mentioned people that live to one hundred and these
Speaker 3: super agers, but that seems more genetic than lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Wrong.
Speaker 6: According to the research I've done for the book, I
Speaker 6: believe seventy percent of our longevity is related to the
Speaker 6: things we do diet, stress management, addequate sleep, exercise. Only
Speaker 6: thirty percent genetics player role. And that's why we can
Speaker 6: control our genetic destiny by doing all the good things
Speaker 6: that we can control, or at least we try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean genetics do go a long way.
Speaker 3: That's why you see people who you know, eat like
Speaker 3: crap for years and they live.
Speaker 2: Into their eighties.
Speaker 3: But you know, you look around you average nursing home.
Speaker 3: You don't say many too many obese people at nursing homes.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I talked in my book that the longest person living
Speaker 6: in the world was a French woman and she smoked.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you're right. It's like really has to do
Speaker 6: with with luck. But I think we all have to
Speaker 6: try to do our very best, not only to eat
Speaker 6: a good uh, a good diet, a balanced die thinkway
Speaker 6: from fat diet, low fat diet with excess sugar, low
Speaker 6: cop with all the chemicals. I tried, and right now
Speaker 6: the country is moving in the right direction by limiting
Speaker 6: all the chemicals in our processed food. So I'm glad that.
Speaker 6: But just that's one of the steps to control aging.
Speaker 6: There's many things to do to control aging again, express management,
Speaker 6: adequate sleep, supplementation, and medications. Now there are medications to
Speaker 6: control aging that the doctors are not aware of, and
Speaker 6: that's why I want to educate the public about that.
Speaker 6: We can, you know, age a completely different way with
Speaker 6: all the advances we have in medicine.
Speaker 2: One of the things I hear, I mean, there's you
Speaker 2: know all mega threes, and.
Speaker 6: Do you take that.
Speaker 3: I do take vitamin D. My vitamin D lovels are perfect.
Speaker 3: I take I take supplements.
Speaker 6: Okay, So fish oil is very important. Fish oil one
Speaker 6: grammar day I can give you four years of longevity.
Speaker 6: That's amazing, and many of us are not taking fish
Speaker 6: oil or we know it goes for us, but we
Speaker 6: exact to take it. But if we're consistent, we can
Speaker 6: have an extra years of longevity just by taking fish oil.
Speaker 1: I heard.
Speaker 3: The big one too is vitamin D. We don't get
Speaker 3: a vitamin D. That's that when it comes to cancers
Speaker 3: and things like that.
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely so, I believe in not Scott. Vitamin D
Speaker 6: is so important not only for longevity but also for
Speaker 6: presenttion of COVID. We had a very high rate of
Speaker 6: mortality in the United States from COVID. And if you
Speaker 6: take a look at I live in New York, if
Speaker 6: you take a look at Florida, they had less mortality
Speaker 6: from COVID than we did here in New York in
Speaker 6: the Northeast. Because vitamin D is mostly from the sun.
Speaker 6: So vitamin D not only plays a role in longevity,
Speaker 6: but it's also the immune system prevention of COVID and
Speaker 6: so on. Yeah, so our mortaliti rate was ten times
Speaker 6: in Japan and South Korea from COVID and that was
Speaker 6: really motivated. What motivated me to write The ageis revolution
Speaker 6: because right now aging is happening in young people. You
Speaker 6: don't have to be old to be you can be.
Speaker 6: In America, you get young and old in the same
Speaker 6: time because of the lifestyle choices we make.
Speaker 3: One of the big components of people hate hearing this
Speaker 3: is exercise, a little resistance training, you know, bands, free weight,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But you know some of these are like, well,
Speaker 3: you need to work out for sixty minutes a day,
Speaker 3: seven days a week, or five days a week or whatever,
Speaker 3: and especially as you get older, that's really really tough
Speaker 3: to do, and it's tough to do with your schedule.
Speaker 3: So how much is enough when it comes to exercise,
Speaker 3: I albeit just you go and walk on the dog
Speaker 3: or walk around the block or something like that.
Speaker 6: I think any type of exercise you do, regardless the
Speaker 6: amount of time you do, is good for you. Aerobic
Speaker 6: and aerobic, but definitely high intense. The interval training has
Speaker 6: the most impact on longevity. Believe it or not, it
Speaker 6: can add ten years to our lives. But that's a
Speaker 6: very tough type of exercise to do. So I also
Speaker 6: recommend balance, you know, walking, running, doing a little bit
Speaker 6: of streadmills, lifting weight as we get older so they
Speaker 6: don't lose muscle mass. And if you're in good health
Speaker 6: and you could do hit. That's fine. Do it, that's good,
Speaker 6: that's great.
Speaker 3: It does start to wear the joints down, and you
Speaker 3: got to segue into something else.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: If you doctor disease, if you eat like crap like
Speaker 3: in your forties, fifties, maybe your sixties as well, can
Speaker 3: you still reverse all this stuff?
Speaker 5: I do think so.
Speaker 6: I think the body has the ability to reset and
Speaker 6: to reboot. And the body. You know, so many people
Speaker 6: are overweight, so many people are diabetics. But if they
Speaker 6: follow a balanced diet of they exercise, they can reverse that.
Speaker 6: And there are supplements and medication that can help them.
Speaker 6: So wait, now, look at the GLP for example, GLP
Speaker 6: drugs and making everybody stand now, everybody's taking them, and
Speaker 6: they're reversing diabetes, they're reversing obesity, they're reversing inflammation. You
Speaker 6: can use muscle masks if you don't change your eating
Speaker 6: habits and you're eating, you know, a lot of crap
Speaker 6: instead of protein and a good diet. But they have
Speaker 6: changed the way we control our weight.
Speaker 2: Where are you on testosterone supplements?
Speaker 6: I'm very big, big proponent of TRT as we get
Speaker 6: older because testostrun is declining all over the United States,
Speaker 6: especially in young people. Again, it has to do with stress,
Speaker 6: has to do with low vitamin D, has to do
Speaker 6: we don't enough eat seafood with zinc. And as the
Speaker 6: starstrum goes down, man, we start to feel tired, we
Speaker 6: start to get belly fat, we start to get erection problem.
Speaker 6: And the biggest problem with declining tystoston is it shortens
Speaker 6: our life. And the problem is doctors don't routinely checked
Speaker 6: with the stostrun and if they do check with the stostron,
Speaker 6: they don't do anything about it, or they may tell
Speaker 6: you they compare you to any eighty year old they
Speaker 6: say your tystostrum is normal, and the fact is theystostrum
Speaker 6: is very low because you want to always be compared
Speaker 6: to the younger person you could be. I don't want
Speaker 6: to be compared to an older person.
Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, but yeah, and all these things kind
Speaker 3: of factor and anyway, aging is certainly not optional. We're
Speaker 3: all aging, but you can slow it down and as
Speaker 3: you get all of course, time is more precious than anything,
Speaker 3: and if you can help yourself live a healthier, longer life,
Speaker 3: then by all means you got to make some lifestyle change.
Speaker 3: It's an adjustin pivot, but hell do it. Doctor Michael
Speaker 3: is ease the Ageless Revolution. He's an internest and regenitive
Speaker 3: medicine specialist. And thanks again for joining the show this morning.
Speaker 6: Appreciate it, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: That's how it's slow aging.
Speaker 3: But it's not going to stop you from eating that
Speaker 3: half a pie and the refrigerator, you know how that is.
Speaker 3: We've got news on the way in just a few minutes,
Speaker 3: when a return Julie on the Job is here, we
Speaker 3: will talk about AI and the interesting twist a icebar
Speaker 3: that entry level jobs aren't really entry level anymore because
Speaker 3: of AI. What does that mean? What does that mean
Speaker 3: for your career or maybe someone you love? Just ahead
Speaker 3: here Sloany seven hundred helping you put the big P
Speaker 3: in profession. Here's our career, Shirpa Julie bout.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir Julie day off today.
Speaker 3: She's got stuff going onspit a little busy and the
Speaker 3: show always goes on you're on the bus or under
Speaker 3: the In this case, AI is rewriting what entry level
Speaker 3: means in the workfa nobody to get an entry level
Speaker 3: job and you'd start out learning, you know, from the
Speaker 3: ground or built from the ground up. That's not true
Speaker 3: anymore because of AI. What's happening is companies are automating
Speaker 3: those tasks that were previously done by entry level employees.
Speaker 3: And so what that means is if a new graduate,
Speaker 3: those employers expect you to have advanced skills on day one.
Speaker 3: They're still learning curve anymore. Because the easy stuff they
Speaker 3: got AI doing, you're gonna have to really jump into
Speaker 3: the fray. Here joining the show is the co founder
Speaker 3: and chief strategy officer at Kingsleygate. They are in a
Speaker 3: global executive search room nook for CEOs and C suite
Speaker 3: members and his name is Umesh Rama Christian and joining
Speaker 3: the show this morning.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Scott, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bet, this is a game change. I don't think
Speaker 3: enough people realize that we know about AI. All of
Speaker 3: us use AI in some way, shape or form of
Speaker 3: the course of our jobs and our workday makes things easier.
Speaker 3: But we know, like when the computers came to play,
Speaker 3: if you're a better around back then going oh, it's
Speaker 3: gonna make your job so much it's easy. You're gonna
Speaker 3: have all this time, and it doesn't you just get
Speaker 3: more work piled on you. I think the same thing
Speaker 3: is true with any technology. AI is no different, but
Speaker 3: this this one changes it because now you have to
Speaker 3: come and almost now I wouldn't say an expert in
Speaker 3: your field, but the bar has been been raised.
Speaker 2: What are you going to see? How how do you
Speaker 2: close that gap?
Speaker 3: I guess then between college graduates and that new workforce.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know if game change sums it up, Scott.
Speaker 1: I think we are an existential moment here because if
Speaker 1: you know, you have I always had a social contract.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: You go to school, whether it's a four year degree
Speaker 1: or a two year degree, you graduate and as a result,
Speaker 1: you get a job and you work your way up
Speaker 1: to middle management and hopefully the top management. But if
Speaker 1: it is no bottom wrong at all, left, then what
Speaker 1: do you do? Why would you even want to go
Speaker 1: to school? Because you know we spend all the time
Speaker 1: and money, so what really needs to happen now is
Speaker 1: actually most focused on the universities and colleges and schools
Speaker 1: rather than the corporations. So you know, we've always taken
Speaker 1: our seniors and found positions for them. That's the social
Speaker 1: contract I spoke about, or if you're a junior or
Speaker 1: a sophomore, you find internships for them. Well, now I
Speaker 1: think you need to put the whole thing on its head.
Speaker 1: You need to start placing freshmen in companies. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is if the company itself can
Speaker 1: help with the college education cost, then the four years
Speaker 1: that the student spends there is focused on and ready
Speaker 1: for the second tier inside the company, not the entry level,
Speaker 1: which means universities have to completely rethink their strategy. I
Speaker 1: had two company presidents at my home this weekend and
Speaker 1: I floated this idea, and they said, that is a
Speaker 1: radical idea. That's the kind of stuff we should be doing,
Speaker 1: because we don't do anything. These four kids, they're not
Speaker 1: going to have a job.
Speaker 3: Is exactly what we've seen in the trade industry down
Speaker 3: at the other end in blue collar work, and that
Speaker 3: is companies going, hey, we don't have a talent. What
Speaker 3: we have to do is now they recruit them, pay
Speaker 3: for their school. Essentially, you guarantee they're going to work
Speaker 3: for us for a few years to kind of pay that.
Speaker 3: But we will educate them, train them our way, and
Speaker 3: we'll train that workforce. That's been going in the trades
Speaker 3: for quite some time. It sounds like that's the way
Speaker 3: colleges should be headed.
Speaker 1: That's exactly the way it should be headed. And by
Speaker 1: the way, companies have a vest of the interest because
Speaker 1: it's the empty level positions that fill the middle level
Speaker 1: positions three, four, five years down the road. If you
Speaker 1: have nobody at the bottom rung, how are they going
Speaker 1: to fill those positions five years from now. So they
Speaker 1: will have interest, they will fund this, but universities need
Speaker 1: to take that first step. And by the way, high
Speaker 1: schools will also be involved. Just imagine a high school
Speaker 1: administrator he or she wants to face students in those
Speaker 1: colleges that do this, and not colleges that are waiting
Speaker 1: for four years to see if they can get the
Speaker 1: kid a job or not.
Speaker 3: As a result, then imsh are we going to see
Speaker 3: colleges refine their curriculum so to speak, because let's face it,
Speaker 3: the first two years of college there's a lot of
Speaker 3: filler or the idea of you're becoming more well round
Speaker 3: the edge. You can't taking sociology classes and I'm taking
Speaker 3: psychology and all these electives and things.
Speaker 2: Is that going to go away? Is the knife, get sharpen.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, tongue in cheek, Scott. I think drinking
Speaker 1: beer in the first two years is going to be
Speaker 1: a past experience. I think what's going to need to
Speaker 1: happen is these students have come out of high school.
Speaker 1: Just like you pointed out what's been happening on the
Speaker 1: blue collar side, they need to jump head in and
Speaker 1: get experience of practical experience. We actually at company sites.
Speaker 1: So yes, the curriculum needs to change, not little dramatically.
Speaker 1: They have to in work the pyramid and start getting
Speaker 1: practical experience on day one.
Speaker 3: Is that a lot to ask of an incoming college freshman,
Speaker 3: someone who maybe you know, seventy six teen, seventeen years
Speaker 3: old in some cases that essentially they have to figure
Speaker 3: out what they want to do four years later and
Speaker 3: later in their life and honing that and going okay, well,
Speaker 3: I've got to make a commitment when I go to college.
Speaker 3: It's not about me figuring it out along the way
Speaker 3: and maybe changing and my major subtly here and there.
Speaker 3: I've got to commit to a company and an enterprise,
Speaker 3: which I don't know. I have no idea if this
Speaker 3: is what I want to do with my life. But
Speaker 3: that's a major commitment that changes the whole college dynamic
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: This is what I meant by existential Scott. Nobody is
Speaker 1: ready for this. You know you mentioned this is another technology.
Speaker 1: There's one massive difference with what we are calling technology here.
Speaker 1: This technologic reason has logic and is intelligent enough to think.
Speaker 1: When you have something like that and you build agents
Speaker 1: that do that, thousands of them are going to be built.
Speaker 1: The good news is the kids in high school are
Speaker 1: already being exposed to this, So unlike you and I,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to start seeing a mature level
Speaker 1: in high school graduates, more than we've ever seen before.
Speaker 1: But there is going to take some time. It's going
Speaker 1: to be some lag between now and when we reached
Speaker 1: that maturity. So yes, I think we're going to see
Speaker 1: a blood bats, not just in entry level jobs, but
Speaker 1: in children and kids making decisions about careers they're not
Speaker 1: quite ready for.
Speaker 3: Are we going to see then as a result of this,
Speaker 3: that colleges become more selective, that fewer young people go
Speaker 3: to college because of what you're asking of them, That
Speaker 3: we're getting rid of general education requirements. And I mean,
Speaker 3: let's face it, if you're going to get an internship
Speaker 3: as a freshman or sophomore at a big company let's
Speaker 3: say Procter and Gamble here in Cincinnati. You don't have
Speaker 3: any marketable skills that are useful to them. There's a
Speaker 3: disconnect there. Are we just going to see colleges revert
Speaker 3: back to the brightest of the bright who wind up
Speaker 3: going there, as opposed to you know, trying to get
Speaker 3: as many young people to go to college as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of this redesign has to be evaluating what
Speaker 1: students mean, what students can do, what the university needs
Speaker 1: to do in that particular company you mentioned Proctor and Gamble,
Speaker 1: So if you're looking if Parker and Gamble is looking
Speaker 1: for somebody to go enter the marketing function, then it
Speaker 1: falls on the university to determine which student is best
Speaker 1: suited for that. So Yes, as a result, Scott, I
Speaker 1: think universities and companies are going to become far more
Speaker 1: selective and that is going to cause a construction in
Speaker 1: the workforce. Again much any way you look at this
Speaker 1: is going to be a massive problem.
Speaker 3: Like like law school, for example, you know you will
Speaker 3: go they'll go and actively recruit the brightest of the bride.
Speaker 3: Will we start saying that with high school students where
Speaker 3: companies actually come in and go here's your you know,
Speaker 3: your top ten students, or there's a particular you are.
Speaker 3: They're actually scouting high school students to work for them
Speaker 3: and will pay for your college along the way.
Speaker 2: Is that going to happen?
Speaker 1: Well, Look, a lot of what you and I are
Speaker 1: talking about is look into a crystal ball. Right. No,
Speaker 1: nobody is absolutely sure. But if you're asking me my opinion,
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what's going to happen. Uh.
Speaker 3: He is Umesh Ramachra Shan. He is a co founder
Speaker 3: chief strate at Kingslegate there and a global executive firm
Speaker 3: CEO C suite people and talk about the massive change
Speaker 3: here with AI coming along that entry level jobs largely
Speaker 3: as we know them in the workforce. We're talking about
Speaker 3: white collar work predominantly are gonna go away because companies
Speaker 3: are automating those tasks assigning to AI. Entry level employees
Speaker 3: aren't doing the basic bottom level stuff. They have to
Speaker 3: come in pretty hot. They're raising the bar for new
Speaker 3: graduates and they expect advanced skills on day one because
Speaker 3: the menial tasks are being done by AI, you better
Speaker 3: bring something in the table. This almost has to change
Speaker 3: high school, and it certainly changes what college looks like.
Speaker 3: Where you're actually becoming an intern in a company your
Speaker 3: freshman year and the classes you take on. It's more
Speaker 3: specific to that occupation. The idea of figuring it out
Speaker 3: as you go to college. It's been dead for a
Speaker 3: while because of the costs zumash, but it's more so
Speaker 3: now because of the demand for your talent. So when
Speaker 3: you say real entry level work starting freshman year, are
Speaker 3: you talking is that a paid internship unpaid injured co
Speaker 3: ops entirely?
Speaker 2: Is it something different? What does that look like?
Speaker 1: Well, the way I see it, like I said, the
Speaker 1: company has a vested interest in this, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: they need to be filling these positions four or five
Speaker 1: years down the road. So they want the best in
Speaker 1: the brightest, and they want to train them in a
Speaker 1: specific way. Proctor Gamble may want one thing, but Kroger
Speaker 1: may want something else, and so the company, because of
Speaker 1: that reason, should they It's not a significant amount, a
Speaker 1: reasonable amount for that education. So I do believe they're.
Speaker 2: Going to see that interesting.
Speaker 3: So from your executive search perspect are companies that eliminate
Speaker 3: or over credential entry level of positions. Are they shooting
Speaker 3: themselves in the foot long term by not developing their
Speaker 3: own pipeline for talent?
Speaker 1: They absolutely are. You know, one of the things in
Speaker 1: our business is we talk to CEOs around the world
Speaker 1: every day, and I can tell you I haven't spoken
Speaker 1: to one CEO who's not concerned about this issue. And
Speaker 1: you know, sort of kicking the can down the road,
Speaker 1: right because right now, there's no problem. Right now, earnings
Speaker 1: are up, you're increasing productivity because you don't have anybody
Speaker 1: to hire at the bottom end. But everybody knows that
Speaker 1: that's going to just cause a problem three to four
Speaker 1: years from now.
Speaker 3: Well, with AI taking over the you know, the low
Speaker 3: level work, the road work that internships used to train for.
Speaker 3: You know, wasn't that also valuable for teaching them how
Speaker 3: to work in a workplace, you know, professional norms and
Speaker 3: work ethic and attention to detail, organizational culture. That's where
Speaker 3: you learn all that stuff and just to kind of
Speaker 3: do menial tasks. If that goes away, what does that
Speaker 3: do to that whole model?
Speaker 1: Then I don't think it goes away, Scott. I think
Speaker 1: actually it gets enhanced because if you're you know, we believe,
Speaker 1: which I agree with you, if internship's helped in that regard,
Speaker 1: imagine if you're doing this almost full time through college.
Speaker 1: You know, I envision a lot of these classes that
Speaker 1: we held on campus, not the university campus, but corporate campus.
Speaker 1: So you know, these kids coming out of high school
Speaker 1: are probably going to get exposed to things that you
Speaker 1: and I got exposed to maybe two three years graduating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that internship model is going to get
Speaker 1: expanded to a work study model in the not distant future.
Speaker 2: Is it over for the liberal arts degree programs?
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you bring that. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to look like. But one of
Speaker 1: the biggest things that students need to focus on is
Speaker 1: critical thinking, and liberal arts is probably the best area
Speaker 1: in humanities in college where students developed that. How they
Speaker 1: developed that to control AI, I think still remains to
Speaker 1: be seen.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, if you look across global markets where you
Speaker 3: place executives at your company omesh, are you seeing this
Speaker 3: crisis across Is it just America's across all countries, industries
Speaker 3: and sectors, or are there ones that are still having
Speaker 3: that traditional talent pipeline.
Speaker 1: I don't know a single sector or a single geography
Speaker 1: whether this is not a crisis in the making. No, again,
Speaker 1: if you look at it today through today's lens, there
Speaker 1: is no crisis. Companies actually enjoying that good profits because
Speaker 1: you know you're hiring fewer people with productivity is out.
Speaker 1: But anybody who's looking even through a lens of a
Speaker 1: two to three year in the future, it's not just
Speaker 1: a small crisis. Like I said, it's an existential one.
Speaker 2: So who's responsible for fixing this?
Speaker 3: You mentioned high school, you mentioned university's employers, at government,
Speaker 3: they all got to work together.
Speaker 2: I guess it's all of them.
Speaker 1: It's all of them, But I think it starts at
Speaker 1: the universities. I think universities need to see thisuly consider
Speaker 1: this because for them it's a business problem too, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as everybody's realizes that going to
Speaker 1: a college for four years and spending a large amount
Speaker 1: of money is not going to end in a job,
Speaker 1: why would you want to go to college. You've got
Speaker 1: to change the budlem to attract the students, because we're
Speaker 1: talking about the likelihoods them for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned the areas that be responsible for this,
Speaker 3: and it strikes me as universities dig their heels and
Speaker 3: resistance with everything in there might simply because it threatens
Speaker 3: the traditional learning model, and anything that threatens the past
Speaker 3: is a threat to the future. As a real concern
Speaker 3: for the future, I think you're going to see colleges.
Speaker 3: There's probably ones that won't submit to this, and they'll
Speaker 3: they'll probably perish at the because of those decisions.
Speaker 1: Would you agree two things will be cause that for
Speaker 1: them to either fear or arrogance. Fear because they don't
Speaker 1: know what to do, or arrogance. They will not impact
Speaker 1: us if they display either one of those two characteristics. Scott,
Speaker 1: I think they're finished, all right.
Speaker 2: So let's pivot then to this outside of universities. High school.
Speaker 2: What about mom and dad? What about kid? You have
Speaker 2: a younger child. Now, let's say, how are you preparing them.
Speaker 1: For all this? That is probably the toughest job being
Speaker 1: a parent of the toughest job to begin with, And
Speaker 1: now is you've been told suddenly, let's say you have
Speaker 1: a kid in high school. You have this plan in
Speaker 1: your head for the last you know, twelve fourteen, years.
Speaker 1: You even have a fight twenty nine going and now
Speaker 1: you have to deal with this. You know, this is
Speaker 1: outside my laying in terms of parent counseling, Scott, but
Speaker 1: having been gone through it with my son, who is
Speaker 1: now fortunately in the work place already and therefore a
Speaker 1: little bit immune of this, I think that is the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge is for parents in terms of how to
Speaker 1: guide the children forward.
Speaker 3: I have no idea how you'd on ramp down to
Speaker 3: this and go, Okay, it's all going to change in
Speaker 3: the next few years. And I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: more core classes, more stamming, and depending what you want
Speaker 3: to do, because now you're asking, hell, if you're a parent, listen,
Speaker 3: this is going away a minute. You're telling me that
Speaker 3: Now my you know, thirteen fourteen year old kid who
Speaker 3: most days I got to scream at it because they're
Speaker 3: missing the bus and you can't find their shoes in
Speaker 3: the morning and everything, all of a sudden, they got
Speaker 3: to decide what it does they want to do when
Speaker 3: they're my age, Like, that's a tough ask.
Speaker 1: It is an incredibly tough ask. Imagine asking a six
Speaker 1: We need all to stud making decisions inside of a corporation.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these guys don't know what through
Speaker 1: have a lunch. Yeah, yeah, we've all been to that.
Speaker 1: So they're now making decisions. You know, this is not
Speaker 1: going to be easy and there's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of upheaval. But it needs to start. I mean,
Speaker 1: universities need to start planning to shift today.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But in mass well we because we don't like change
Speaker 3: at all. And certainly universities are you know, they're held
Speaker 3: in tradition and you have a legacy there, you have
Speaker 3: tenured professors, you have unions. I just don't see that
Speaker 3: happening until it becomes a crisis.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: Some might and pivot early and say, hey, listen, we
Speaker 3: got to peel the bandit off and do this, but
Speaker 3: I would suggest most wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this to history though, right God, I
Speaker 1: mean we all those we did love the horse and
Speaker 1: buggy and you could have stuck with that and then
Speaker 1: take you, you know, six days to get to New York.
Speaker 1: So I think eventually people will see it. My fear
Speaker 1: is that the strupture will happened before the realization. And
Speaker 1: if that's the case, you know, all of us in
Speaker 1: trouble all right.
Speaker 3: He is the con founder and chief strategy officer at
Speaker 3: Kingsley Gate. They're a global executive search firm. And it's
Speaker 3: umesh Rama Krishnan in for Julie this morning on seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for joining. It was really informative.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Scott. I enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: That's a wake up call right there. College.
Speaker 3: As you we know, college is in crisis right now
Speaker 3: and it's been crossed for a while. But this is
Speaker 3: an absolute mind blowing proposition. Pretty exciting actually. So now
Speaker 3: you can go look at your fourteen fifty year on going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, how are we going to do this?
Speaker 3: Good luck with that one. Let me get in this
Speaker 3: update in and more to follow at Scott Sloan. I'll
Speaker 3: talk to Michelle Schultz, trade attorney coming up about the
Speaker 3: tariff refunds that may be coming due here depending what
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court does. And in light of the President's
Speaker 3: addressed tonight on all this and more, just add seven
Speaker 3: hundred W O to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be an American? Seven hundred w WELW.
Speaker 3: President is going to speak tonight at nine pm to
Speaker 3: sell you on the economy, addressing what he calls the
Speaker 3: affordability hoax and the promise he made on the trail
Speaker 3: to reduce the cost of living from day one. As
Speaker 3: he said, we know that's not going very well for
Speaker 3: the president. You know what, you know, you go to
Speaker 3: the store and you see the price of beef, You
Speaker 3: see the price of many thing except gas. We're to
Speaker 3: what four or five year low right now? Everything certainly
Speaker 3: feels much higher. And you know that when you look
Speaker 3: at your checkbook, your savings account at the end of
Speaker 3: the month. Of course, adding to inflation would be the tariffs,
Speaker 3: and the President's going to talk about that tonight. And
Speaker 3: on it is trade attorney Michelle Schultz again on the
Speaker 3: Scott's Loan Show.
Speaker 2: Michelle, how are you good morning?
Speaker 10: I have been busy.
Speaker 2: I bet yes.
Speaker 10: It's all tariffs, all the time, lots of change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the President is going to address a
Speaker 3: lot of that tonight. And so we know the tarffs
Speaker 3: brought in like close to a quarter trillion dollars so
Speaker 3: far this calendar year. But companies like Costco and Bumblebee,
Speaker 3: the tuna company Revlon, the makeup company ray Ban Sun
Speaker 3: last as many others are getting in line because the
Speaker 3: first person in line gets paid first. In the lawsuits
Speaker 3: to lock down the billions of dollars they might be
Speaker 3: out if the Supreme Court rules against President Truft's tariffs,
Speaker 3: to begin with, So let's start there the likelihood that
Speaker 3: that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What do you see the tea.
Speaker 10: Leaves Well, I'd say fifty to fifty. You know, in
Speaker 10: the beginning, I thought it was pretty likely that the
Speaker 10: Supreme Court would strike down the tariffs because they expressed
Speaker 10: so much skepticism during the initial hearings. But the more
Speaker 10: I read, the more I follow the government's reactions, I'm
Speaker 10: thinking it's possible it could go either way. So companies
Speaker 10: like Costco, Revlon and the big guys have gone in
Speaker 10: and they have petition for Customs to essentially be forced
Speaker 10: to delay its final computations so that refunds would be quicker.
Speaker 10: And we're due for the final liquidation of entries as
Speaker 10: of Monday, so it's been kind of a race to
Speaker 10: get to the front of the line. Who can get
Speaker 10: to the front of the line and who can get
Speaker 10: paid first. If we could keep Customs from finalizing its calculations, Unfortunately, Monday,
Speaker 10: the Court of International Trade denied a consolidated motion for
Speaker 10: this very thing. So it looks like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like one hundred and thirty billion dollars, I mean so
Speaker 3: far that number is growing. Is what the refund would
Speaker 3: be got. And the thing is the preemptive lawsuits coming
Speaker 3: in to be paid as being liquidated by the government.
Speaker 3: The Supreme Court rules against the TERRAF after liquidation occurs,
Speaker 3: doesn't that create kind of a legal black hole where
Speaker 3: companies can't get refunds even though they paid on constitutional tariffs.
Speaker 2: How would that shake out?
Speaker 10: That would be in my mind, it would be administratively
Speaker 10: a mess. And I think that's what the DOJ was
Speaker 10: concerned about when they last week they mentioned that, hey,
Speaker 10: we've already been collecting about one hundred and thirty billion
Speaker 10: in tariffs. I think if all that has to be refunded,
Speaker 10: then it does have to be refunded, and there will
Speaker 10: be a mechanism for refunds, such as protesting the liquidation
Speaker 10: of customs entries. The problem is the time we're going
Speaker 10: to have to go through a long process to get
Speaker 10: that money back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and where does the money actually come from if
Speaker 3: it's already been spent. I mean, I you know, he
Speaker 3: has a list of I think there's like seven or
Speaker 3: eight things on there. What he's going to do with
Speaker 3: this money coming in from tariffs, including two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: checks or taxpayers. All well and good, but if you
Speaker 3: cut those checks, there's no getting it back. Where if
Speaker 3: you spend some of that money, where's it going to
Speaker 3: come from?
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I think it would have to come from through customs
Speaker 10: and border protection, but I don't know what funds they'd
Speaker 10: pull it from. If the money's already been spent. It's
Speaker 10: it's been It's long been the case that customs have
Speaker 10: to provide refunds if someone overpaid. But wow, this is
Speaker 10: on a grand scale. We're talking about billions and thousands
Speaker 10: of companies. So I think it's legally the refunds will
Speaker 10: be required, but it will be a process, and in
Speaker 10: my experience requesting refunds, it's going to take.
Speaker 5: A long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll probably hear more of this tonight when
Speaker 3: the President speaks at nine o'clock. But Trump promised to
Speaker 3: use the tariff revenue for as I had to look
Speaker 3: it up. Yeah, eight different purposes with the checks. There's
Speaker 3: tax cuts, there's paying down debt, there's eliminating m TIMP
Speaker 3: taxes in some groups.
Speaker 2: And the list goes on and on and on.
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know, I does Congress have
Speaker 3: to a created like any other revenue or does he
Speaker 3: just start cutting checks himself. I mean, that's the other
Speaker 3: question is how much authority has an executive branch versus
Speaker 3: congressional park Congress. Congress, as we know under Republican control,
Speaker 3: really doesn't want to do anything. They're happy with him
Speaker 3: doing whatever he wants and doing very little as representatives
Speaker 3: and senators. I wonder what happens in that regard exactly.
Speaker 10: Yes, and under the constitution, Congress is the branch that
Speaker 10: has authority over taxes and terrifts. Tariffs are attacked and
Speaker 10: they're a tax on the US importer, So you know,
Speaker 10: you'd think that Congress would have to weigh in on
Speaker 10: this at some point if refunds are required. It's going
Speaker 10: to be a combination, I think, of the executive branch
Speaker 10: and then Congress, which as you mentioned, is just going
Speaker 10: to probably support the executive bridge decisions, and then Customs.
Speaker 10: So Customs is going to be swimming in paperwork.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, doesn't mean for a smooth system. Michelle
Speaker 3: Schultz on the shift, trade attorney, expert in the area
Speaker 3: of tariffs and the like, and I'm sure your phone's
Speaker 3: been ringing off the hook with all this stuff going
Speaker 3: on from your clients. Tonight, the President is going to
Speaker 3: talk at nine o'clock to sell us on the economy
Speaker 3: and the affordability hoax, as he calls it. I don't know,
Speaker 3: you go to the store, stuffs more expensive. I don't
Speaker 3: know how that's a hoax. You know more than anyone
Speaker 3: your personal finances. If you're doing fine and you're above
Speaker 3: water and have all extra dispense, it's probably not that
Speaker 3: big a deal. But of course you get closer and
Speaker 3: closer to the poverty line, or you just simply make
Speaker 3: less money your middle class or lower. You know that
Speaker 3: it's really expensive out there, say maybe energy and gasoline
Speaker 3: right now. So he's gonna try and sell us on
Speaker 3: that tonight. It should be interesting what he says. And
Speaker 3: of course the other area of this thing is, Michelle,
Speaker 3: you know this better than anybody. Are the terroriffs actually
Speaker 3: working in a sense, because I mean, China just surpassed
Speaker 3: a one trillion dollar trade surplus, which means they export
Speaker 3: more than they import. If they export more than import
Speaker 3: and that number is going up, that would indicate, at
Speaker 3: least relative to China, the tariffs are not working.
Speaker 10: Right right, Yes, relative to China, we can see that
Speaker 10: the tariffs really aren't having the intended effect. China's actually
Speaker 10: doing more business with other countries and they have found
Speaker 10: that it's easier to what they called dump or sell
Speaker 10: products below market to other countries rather than dealing with
Speaker 10: US at this point. So you know, yeah, I think
Speaker 10: the tariffs have resulted in difficulty for US importers, and
Speaker 10: at the same time, China seems to be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have the endent.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's other countries out there that are squeezing,
Speaker 3: for sure, But I mean this was all set to
Speaker 3: leverage China, and China's going, okay, we'll fine, We'll just
Speaker 3: go We'll just expand market share elsewhere and forget about
Speaker 3: you guys. But then, you know, if tariffs go away
Speaker 3: or we get the balance back, are those stations going
Speaker 3: to all of a sudden go hey, you know what,
Speaker 3: we are just going to go back to good old
Speaker 3: Maide In the USA, goods, you know, outside of maybe
Speaker 3: some core products. I don't see that happening because once
Speaker 3: you change change vendors, so to speak, it's difficult to
Speaker 3: get that business back, isn't it.
Speaker 10: Oh, Yes, very difficult. And I think there is a
Speaker 10: lot of sentiments regarding America that we're not reliable right now.
Speaker 10: So I'm hearing that from the EU, from South America,
Speaker 10: from everywhere. And you'll see China is currently very successful
Speaker 10: in India, Brazil, Africa, you can look anywhere and they're
Speaker 10: doing well because they're playing the game right. I think
Speaker 10: that we are at a disadvantage at this point. Companies
Speaker 10: don't necessarily trust us because we may or may not
Speaker 10: go through with a transaction, or we may request christ changes.
Speaker 10: And even if we do buy something at the regular price,
Speaker 10: than the US company is losing profitability because they have
Speaker 10: to either increase their price to match the teriffs and
Speaker 10: which are up to fifty percent or more, or they
Speaker 10: have to just do something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Michelle on the terriff issue, I
Speaker 3: think there's a credibility problem here for Trump administration and
Speaker 3: Republicans in a sense, because you know, the cry against
Speaker 3: the Affordable Care Act which is true. You know, we
Speaker 3: subsidize things in this country to the extreme, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't do anything to reduce and drive down the actual
Speaker 3: cost of things. It's just simply a coupon. It's a voucher,
Speaker 3: is what it is. To make it look to you
Speaker 3: and your family like, hey, healthcare is affordable, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's it's out of control of the government's just taking
Speaker 3: money from a different pile and giving it to you
Speaker 3: to shut you the hell up so you can afford
Speaker 3: your healthcare insurance. And that is a legitimate bee for
Speaker 3: publicans have habit. It's one hundred percent accurate. However, when
Speaker 3: you now have twice done that for farmers and bailed
Speaker 3: them out because in this case, because of teriffs where
Speaker 3: Ohio farmers lost about seventy six million dollars in exports
Speaker 3: to China, well overall the trade is down like seventeen billions.
Speaker 3: So the long story is we're bailing out farmers with
Speaker 3: twelve billion dollars. Unfortunately it's dwarfed by the seventeen billion
Speaker 3: dollar loss in China trade to China loan. So we're
Speaker 3: essentially subsidying farmers for the tariffs. That doesn't make any
Speaker 3: sense at all.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And we're still seeing with
Speaker 10: our clients that farmers are they have stop, they can't sell,
Speaker 10: they're jumping products, and even agricultural equipment is taking a
Speaker 10: huge hit because they can't afford to buy the new stuff.
Speaker 10: They're going to use their own equipment. It's really still
Speaker 10: impacting farmers and agriculture, you know, down to the individual
Speaker 10: and I think sending them a check for a couple
Speaker 10: thousand dollars is not really helpful.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know it's again it's more subsidy.
Speaker 3: And on that too, farmers in the particular Ohio farmers.
Speaker 3: Basically there's a double whim there. There's higher cost from
Speaker 3: the import taxes and lost export revenue from retaliation from
Speaker 3: countries like China. So, from a trade law perspective, Michelle
Speaker 3: schultz Weer, you're an expert in is the predictable outcome
Speaker 3: of the policy something the administration's legally required to consider
Speaker 3: before imposing those tariffs or other statues that can just
Speaker 3: impose it without any economic impact analysis whatsoever.
Speaker 2: It feels like the ladder's true.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I believe the ladder's true. Unfortunately, because so the
Speaker 10: tariffs that are the baseline tariffs. The reciprocal tariffs, those
Speaker 10: are the tariffs that are on virtually every country, and
Speaker 10: those were implemented under an emergency statue, as if a
Speaker 10: trade deficit or an emergency. So let's say the court
Speaker 10: holds up those tariffs, they still have plenty of options
Speaker 10: for the US government to impose tariffs under other statutes
Speaker 10: like aluminium and steel, which are under a National Security statute.
Speaker 10: There's another statue that covers unfair trade practices, and none
Speaker 10: of this, None of these statutes really ask what's the
Speaker 10: impact on the importer in the United States state, They're
Speaker 10: more focused on policy.
Speaker 3: So the big picture of the takeaway here is American
Speaker 3: farmers are suffering because of those massive losses we talked.
Speaker 3: Big companies are lining up to sue for refunds, and
Speaker 3: the government collected almost a quarter trillion dollars but promised
Speaker 3: to spend it in eight different ways. So if you're
Speaker 3: advising someone whose business is import export and you have
Speaker 3: a global market here, what do you tell how are
Speaker 3: you tell them to navigate this chaos right now? And
Speaker 3: do you think we'll ever have clarity in the next
Speaker 3: few months on the legality of all this stuff.
Speaker 10: I think we will have clarity. So that's the light
Speaker 10: at the end of the tunnel. I'm hearing maybe beginning
Speaker 10: of twenty twenty six. Some folks have been saying before
Speaker 10: the end of twenty twenty five. I don't know that
Speaker 10: we'll have that much clarity then, and I don't think
Speaker 10: that all the tariffs will be cleared up. Many of
Speaker 10: them are going to continue, and there's not much of
Speaker 10: a path forward for the importer. So what we're doing
Speaker 10: is some importers will want to get in line, they
Speaker 10: want to sue. On the other hand, the Court of
Speaker 10: International Trade is not willing to bind customs as far
Speaker 10: as its final calculations. They've denied a consolidated motion on
Speaker 10: Monday about by importers, So I think, you know, as
Speaker 10: as it drags out, we continue to look at technicality.
Speaker 10: We've had importers that have been overpaying because they've been
Speaker 10: overvaluing their goods, and we follow the customs regulations very
Speaker 10: closely to determine if you're overvaluing, if you're paying a
Speaker 10: percent onto high a value, or maybe you're paying on
Speaker 10: the wrong country of origins or the wrong yeah good.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you sort all this stuff out.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, my head would explode her. How's your
Speaker 3: head not exploding?
Speaker 10: It is good?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, good good. I just couldn't hear it for more.
Speaker 3: Your Thank god you're in the phone, not in the studio.
Speaker 3: Are cleaning people are are overworked already. She has Michelle
Speaker 3: Schall's trade attorney on the show. I always love having
Speaker 3: you on, Michelle, because you're you just simply cut right
Speaker 3: through it to help us figure out something complex is
Speaker 3: tariffs and what it all means. And if you don't
Speaker 3: know what it means, it should scare the hell out
Speaker 3: of the rest of us, that's for sure. You have
Speaker 3: a great day. Thanks again for coming on the show.
Speaker 10: You too, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Happy holiday, Yeahpy holdays Mary Christmas. Yeah. So it's a
Speaker 2: damnist party in power right tonight.
Speaker 3: The Republicans are today, actually I should say, they're gonna
Speaker 3: not vote for and include subsidies to continue the Obamacare
Speaker 3: for another couple of years.
Speaker 2: However, it is till they sort this out.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you may feel like the rug's being
Speaker 3: pulled out under if you're one of the twenty two
Speaker 3: million Americans on it okay, good, because we don't want
Speaker 3: subcy Amen, subsidy is it's it's stupid. Then tonight at nine,
Speaker 3: President Trump will tell you why subsidies are good when
Speaker 3: it comes to farmers and everything else. And two thousand
Speaker 3: dollars checks to Americans, isn't that subsidy? The answer would
Speaker 3: be yes, yes, it would be leadership. Where is it?
Speaker 2: I don't I don't see it. I don't see it
Speaker 2: on the left, I don't see it on the right.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. News on the way minutes
Speaker 2: here seven hundred w.
Speaker 1: DC.
Speaker 2: Well, let's probably a little bit of displaying go on.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 3: I thought Seg Dennison on the staff here at iHeart Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: was the most afraid of winter weather. And I have
Speaker 3: to apologize to my friend Seg because I was wrong
Speaker 3: about that. Sarah Lees is uh doing this from from
Speaker 3: her home instead of coming in STUDI because she's afraid
Speaker 3: of the snow that has since melted on the roadways
Speaker 3: and will not drive on roads it could possibly be
Speaker 3: icy at this time. I've never seen anyone afraid Sarah
Speaker 3: release of salt stained dry pavement. I understand when it's
Speaker 3: slippery up maybe, but the roads are fine. Why are
Speaker 3: you at home?
Speaker 11: Well, if the Bengals would have cleared off their seats,
Speaker 11: we wouldn't have all the snow.
Speaker 5: Melting onto the banks and causing having.
Speaker 2: Got it gets back to the Bengal the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the snow melts from the uncleared seats, goes down
Speaker 3: down to the bottels of paycorps out, goes into the
Speaker 3: gutters and streets and flood Cincinnati with the tears of incompetence.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I live a half mile away from downtown and
Speaker 11: I'm in a flood right now. So that's why I'm
Speaker 11: working from home this week.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha, You're floating away here.
Speaker 3: So it is a snort report this morning, Sarah Elise,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we've We don't often snort over
Speaker 3: the phone, but you may have to snort louder in
Speaker 3: order for it to come through.
Speaker 11: I think, you know what, there is a lot to
Speaker 11: snort about because things are so bad that you just
Speaker 11: have to keep laughing to like not go absolutely insane.
Speaker 11: Over All of the Bengals drama is wanting after another
Speaker 11: really is. And now you've got previous Bengals players calling
Speaker 11: out the league on social media. This comment is definitely
Speaker 11: trending on social media.
Speaker 1: Zach Moss.
Speaker 11: He's telling people on Twitter that the Bengals are easily
Speaker 11: the worst franchise in sports.
Speaker 5: Blooney, we got problems.
Speaker 2: We don't have problems.
Speaker 3: What we have is what we have is consistency. What
Speaker 3: has changed in the last I don't know, thirty years.
Speaker 3: It's the same cries about incompetent, mismanagement, penny pinching, being
Speaker 3: tone deaf, not being responsive to the fan base. Nothing's changed,
Speaker 3: doesn't the fact that we just last week gave two
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve billion dollars at the stadium.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the big the Browns family, they're doing completely, They're.
Speaker 2: Totally zero, zero poops given.
Speaker 11: Jason Williams with the inquir he has this awesome article out.
Speaker 11: First of all, you got to read Jason Williams articles.
Speaker 11: He has no filter, and he put this article out,
Speaker 11: I believe this morning or late last night about how
Speaker 11: the Bengals ownership does not care about what any of
Speaker 11: us have to say. They see your comments on Twitter,
Speaker 11: on Facebook, on Instagram, TikTok, and they're just gonna keep
Speaker 11: doing what they're doing.
Speaker 5: I mean, how can things change? Sloany just stop showing up.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 3: And the idea is, if we're you know, we're calling
Speaker 3: for We're calling for Zach Taylor, We're calling for the
Speaker 3: ahead of Duke Tobin. H it doesn't it doesn't matter,
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who that it's above the head coach.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something with Duke Tobin.
Speaker 3: But I would go, Okay, but is it because he
Speaker 3: doesn't have enough support, he doesn't have enough people around
Speaker 3: him to help. He's doing too much by himself because
Speaker 3: it's a woefully understaffed front office when it comes to scouting,
Speaker 3: on all the things that ensure you're gonna get good
Speaker 3: players or great players here in Cincinnati's opposed to a crapshoot.
Speaker 3: I would say, does it really matter if it's Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3: Does it matter if it's Bill Kauer? Does it matter
Speaker 3: who it is as the head coach. I would contend,
Speaker 3: it's the system in which that coach is thrust it.
Speaker 3: I mean, when he's got to answer the questions about
Speaker 3: snow removal, because no one in that front office.
Speaker 2: Will speak except for Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: If I you know, being a fan of the team,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at going, well, there's no communications, so they
Speaker 3: don't actually care.
Speaker 2: They're in pervious to criticism. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 11: Well, you just kind of take Marty Brennanan's advice. He
Speaker 11: was on with Tom Brennanan on Monday morning and he goes, look,
Speaker 11: I've got one piece of advice for Bengals fans. He says, snowblowers,
Speaker 11: next time.
Speaker 3: Bringing your own shovel to pay Course Stadium.
Speaker 11: That's h Look, I can't even get in with my
Speaker 11: little four by Fyclear bags, but I'll try to bring
Speaker 11: it so blowing.
Speaker 3: And then like the ticket things were malfunctioning. It took
Speaker 3: people an outward to get in, so they missed most
Speaker 3: of the first quarter at least.
Speaker 2: It just it's just one.
Speaker 3: It's just one travesty and injustice staff together for the
Speaker 3: long suffering Bengal fans. And you know, if you're a
Speaker 3: season ticket older season tickelolders are not happy. The ones
Speaker 3: I talked to are not happy at all because renewals
Speaker 3: are coming.
Speaker 2: They're like, hell no, and they shouldn't be.
Speaker 11: And this is when the sales staff are making their
Speaker 11: calls and they're saying, hey, what are we doing about
Speaker 11: twenty twenty six And it's like well, what are you
Speaker 11: doing about twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 11: But I guess what had happened. Two of the gates
Speaker 11: were down for whatever reason. There are rumors out there
Speaker 11: saying that some of the staff couldn't make it in
Speaker 11: because the roads were so bad.
Speaker 6: But I don't know.
Speaker 11: All of the fans seem to make it in and
Speaker 11: they were.
Speaker 5: Just standing there.
Speaker 11: For the entire staff, not freezing that they missed anything.
Speaker 11: I mean, the Bengals couldn't do anything in that game,
Speaker 11: which was really disappointing after what we had seen on
Speaker 11: Things Giving night, after that really exciting win.
Speaker 5: I just had higher.
Speaker 11: Expectations for him, and especially with Joe Burrow. So now
Speaker 11: Joe Burrow is getting heckled. I don't know if you
Speaker 11: saw that. That's trending on social media too. There was
Speaker 11: an angry fan that was sitting in the front row
Speaker 11: of that game on Sunday decided to take off his
Speaker 11: Joe Burrow Jersey rose it onto the field and he's
Speaker 11: hackling home and it was so bad that Jamar Chase
Speaker 11: had to get into his face a little bit, like, hey,
Speaker 11: go home then if you don't want to be here,
Speaker 11: if you don't like it, go home and you know
Speaker 11: throughout a bunch of f bombs.
Speaker 3: Right, which is which is a great look for the team.
Speaker 3: You don't like the bad product on the field and
Speaker 3: then get the hell out of here. That's just I mean,
Speaker 3: I get he's defending his guy, but that just is
Speaker 3: another bad look for a team that is full of
Speaker 3: bad looks at the fans.
Speaker 2: Right, you don't you don't do that. You have a
Speaker 2: reason to be upset.
Speaker 5: Money.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they're spending the money on the tickets and the jerseys,
Speaker 11: and they stumbled their way out of their homes to
Speaker 11: get there on Sunday and to sit in the five
Speaker 11: degree stempts and watch a four and ten team. I mean,
Speaker 11: it's just it did not get worse right now. And
Speaker 11: Dak Taylor on Monday said, look, I know that this
Speaker 11: is the record and we're out of it three years
Speaker 11: in a row with no playoffs, but Joe Burrow is
Speaker 11: still going to play.
Speaker 5: So what do you think of that?
Speaker 11: It's like, do we need to keep playing Joe Burrow
Speaker 11: for the final three games?
Speaker 2: It's his job. You're going to tell him know if
Speaker 2: he's healthy.
Speaker 11: I think you cannot tell Joe Burrow no to anything.
Speaker 11: I mean He's probably just happy to be back after
Speaker 11: that toe injury. This was just supposed to be his
Speaker 11: game that he was coming back this weekend too in
Speaker 11: Miami when he had gotten hurt back in September. They
Speaker 11: said Miami would be his first game back.
Speaker 2: But obviously it doesn't matter. It's over.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter it's over yet again, So three straight
Speaker 3: seasons no playoffs to the Bengals who appeared there. And
Speaker 3: now you look at that playoff run and against the
Speaker 3: Rams in the super Bowl, and you know, blink of
Speaker 3: an eye could have went the other way. Bengals were
Speaker 3: on the verge of winning that game going down to
Speaker 3: the last play.
Speaker 6: But again, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 11: The Super Bowl was like twenty years ago at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle.
Speaker 3: I get it out of your mind. And so I
Speaker 3: look at this whole thing. I just don't think it's
Speaker 3: gonna get any better. There's no hope whatsoever for the Bengals.
Speaker 3: That was an aberration. Making it to the playoffs. Goes
Speaker 3: to show you the parody of the NFL that even
Speaker 3: bad teams and bad franchises have a chance of making
Speaker 3: it to the super Bowl. It's not like we're building
Speaker 3: a dynasty here in Cincinnati. It's going in the other
Speaker 3: direction at this point. And for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 3: if I'm a fan of this team, which I am,
Speaker 3: the silence from the family from ownership is definite. They
Speaker 3: often don't communicate. They aren't now they're saying, Hey, we're
Speaker 3: sticking with Zach, We're sticking with Duke Tobin. We're gonna
Speaker 3: Most teams would have let him go and made changes
Speaker 3: after the loss last week. Not this club. They're going
Speaker 3: to double down on stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: The lack of communication is very loud and according to
Speaker 11: speaking of Zach Taylor and his extension, according to Paul
Speaker 11: Dayner Junior of The Athletic he said that Zach Taylor
Speaker 11: is under contract for the next two seasons.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 11: He says that the Bengals signed him to a second
Speaker 11: five year extension after their runs the AFT Championship game
Speaker 11: back in twenty twenty two. And he says, but the
Speaker 11: Bengals never announced that second extension, which is why nobody
Speaker 11: knows about it. So Paul Dayner Junior.
Speaker 6: Just calling them out.
Speaker 11: I love how everybody's just calling it all out just
Speaker 11: aaron the grievances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the hope is left.
Speaker 3: I just wonder next season they're trying to sell season
Speaker 3: tickets to get people hyped for twenty twenty six. We'll
Speaker 3: have a healthy Joe Burrow. They didn't do anything in
Speaker 3: free agency. We'll see what happens in the offseason here.
Speaker 3: Their draft picks have missed on most of them defensively speaking,
Speaker 3: I just wonder what help.
Speaker 5: We've got a draft?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they're so good.
Speaker 3: If everything stays the same, How many empty seats so
Speaker 3: you see next year at pay Corps.
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that in the jumps. Are you sure are lots.
Speaker 11: Of bags overheads?
Speaker 5: It ain't good?
Speaker 11: And we want to happy Joe Burrow. I mean he
Speaker 11: said last week, he goes, If I'm going to keep
Speaker 11: doing this, I want to have fun doing it. I
Speaker 11: don't think Joe Burrow is having any fun right now.
Speaker 11: There's no way you can have fun.
Speaker 3: There's no way you could be having fun watching this
Speaker 3: fall apart during the Guys Prime. How you can't make
Speaker 3: the playoffs with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and t Higgins
Speaker 3: is in Chase Brown for that matter, is beyond explanation.
Speaker 3: When you have that powerful offense, you know how bad
Speaker 3: you got to suck on defense to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 5: You got to get a whole new defense.
Speaker 2: Awful, awful, It's just awesome. To multi year project.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 3: Dan said, well, you may be able to fix this
Speaker 3: to the off season, not not as disinterested they are
Speaker 3: and keep getting talented the same thing.
Speaker 2: There's no hope. There's no hope. By the way, do
Speaker 2: you know what today is?
Speaker 1: The Sarah?
Speaker 3: Do you know what today marks? Where were you so
Speaker 3: thirty years ago?
Speaker 11: Nine days until opening Day?
Speaker 3: Hold on a second here, I have one more football
Speaker 3: related thing to get to before we get into this.
Speaker 2: Do you know what Okay, thirty years ago today, you
Speaker 2: were where you were a senior in college?
Speaker 5: Right, Wait on a second. Thirty years ago.
Speaker 11: Oh, I was at Fairfield South Elementary. That's where I
Speaker 11: was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3: All right, thirty years ago on this date, the Browns
Speaker 3: played their last game in the state of Ohio and
Speaker 3: moved to Baltimore thirty years ago today.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 5: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they became.
Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens, and then Cleveland got a team and
Speaker 3: well they probably just should have stayed away based on
Speaker 3: how they played since then up up in Cleveland today
Speaker 3: thirty years and they played the Bengals in the final
Speaker 3: home game.
Speaker 11: Fun fuck you on that day.
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago. I think it was still I was
Speaker 2: in school.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, it was. Aren't you closed to retirement or
Speaker 5: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Do you want me to retire? No, because I like
Speaker 2: doing this day with you don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: about that. Maybe you know what. This is the last one.
Speaker 2: I think I'm done.
Speaker 11: I'm well, actually this is our last snort report of
Speaker 11: the year. It won't be back until what January whatever?
Speaker 5: That is get me some.
Speaker 2: Hope when it comes to sports snort lips.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we got in ninety nine days until opening.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 11: Versus Circle and February twenty first it was announced that's
Speaker 11: gonna be the first spring training game and Sunny Arizona
Speaker 11: of course happening right there in Goodyear against the Guardians.
Speaker 5: Sunthing bone Tyl.
Speaker 2: The Red's looking for next season.
Speaker 11: Tw we're looking. You know what, if you just never
Speaker 11: know what you're gonna get. Everything is always a surprise
Speaker 11: with all of these teams. The other day they did
Speaker 11: announce their twenty twenty six Hall of Fame in Depth Pies.
Speaker 11: One of my favorite players.
Speaker 5: Of all time. Brandon.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that dude, Panela and Reggie Sanders so good
Speaker 11: line up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Brandon Phillips is hysterical.
Speaker 11: Brandon Phillips is the player that really got me to
Speaker 11: love the Reds. I mean, I was in high school
Speaker 11: watching that guy and I don't know, he just he's
Speaker 11: honestly one of my favorite players of all time.
Speaker 2: I miss that dude.
Speaker 3: The that Dude BP show when Seg would interview him
Speaker 3: in the dugout before Red Home came.
Speaker 5: Oh how did that gets?
Speaker 2: So good? That was such good radio.
Speaker 11: So good, really good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so funny.
Speaker 11: God, listen the sex questions player.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but that I will say that that
Speaker 3: that that's up there, Banana.
Speaker 2: Phone to me.
Speaker 11: We got it. We got to bring them back. So
Speaker 11: that's just going with our Reds of course, red going on.
Speaker 2: That Dude BP. It's the that Dude BP show.
Speaker 11: In the studio.
Speaker 3: I had Brandon in studio and that was going on
Speaker 3: for for the Winter Caravan, and he was in and
Speaker 3: and he had heard never heard me talk like before,
Speaker 3: and his.
Speaker 2: Eyes got massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, he's like he
Speaker 2: just started to laugh, so I hit. He's like I
Speaker 2: did the sega.
Speaker 3: So we're with that, dude, be Pete Brandon Brandon, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, how what the the baseball the second for
Speaker 3: or second ban?
Speaker 2: So how long you've been black and oh mysh first.
Speaker 3: Eyes got huge and he laughed for he was howling.
Speaker 11: He is the best.
Speaker 2: He loves that. He just loves all that stuff. I
Speaker 2: love me some brand Phillips. He was great, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Great, so definitely deserved. Yeah, they're going to do that
Speaker 5: in April. So right, there's a little bit of the Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the I would say, Brandon Phillips one of
Speaker 3: the great all time Red personalities. And keep in mind,
Speaker 3: in my lifetime, which is long, you know, there's Pete
Speaker 3: Rose and a whole.
Speaker 2: Bunch of others.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the little debbies, the debbies, right, we never knew
Speaker 5: what that meant. We thought it was.
Speaker 3: One of the all time great Reds. If you had
Speaker 3: a Reds Personality Hall of Fame, Brandon Phillips would be there.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 11: I feel like that's the last time that we were
Speaker 11: like really cool.
Speaker 3: You know exactly all right, more futility from the Bengals.
Speaker 3: We'll see what the Reds have to offer.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Being a sports fan in Cincinnati is tough work. She's
Speaker 3: Sarah Elise the Snort Report on this Wednesday morning. She's
Speaker 3: back sometime first of the year. Then again, maybe not,
Speaker 3: maybe the roads won't be icy. She can come and Sarah.
Speaker 11: Lease flooded right now, like I said, flooded. Flooding from
Speaker 11: Bakor Stadium, and it's my house is underwater.
Speaker 5: So we got problems.
Speaker 11: You know why you got to wipe off those seats.
Speaker 3: Well, you know you could stay home and pretend you
Speaker 3: I would just bring some snow in from the outside
Speaker 3: and throw it on your couch and then sit there
Speaker 3: and pretend you're at the game.
Speaker 2: I could do that.
Speaker 5: Nothing but wet butts and disappointment.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas on Happy New Year. We'll talk next year.
Speaker 5: You too, have a good one.
Speaker 3: You too take care of Sloane here on the home
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