WEBVTT - 12-17-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.880 Going to be an American idiot by Scott Film here 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.600 seven hundred WLW. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.840 So the House is not going to vote this week. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.480 And an extension to the Affordable Care Acts enhanced premium 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.159 subsidies that's going to lapse at the end of the 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.560 year unless something critical is done here don't look like it. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.799 Moderate Republicans are squeezed against the mega contingent of the 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.440 Republican Party. So the moderates tried to put an extension together. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.599 The House Rules Committee blocked that, uh, because they're trying 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.400 to attach that to the Geopece Healthcare plan, and that 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.880 plan does not include an extension for the twenty million 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.040 Americans who would be cut off by the end of 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.080 the year. It's some wonky political crap that's going on. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.480 But Dean Clancy's here once again. He's a senior Health 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.960 policy fellow at Americans for a Prosperity at AFP. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.480 Dean, welcome back. How you doing, I'm doing great. Thanks. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.559 We can all agree that our healthcare system sucks. I 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.360 believe when you put it in this you put it 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.840 to me. The end product is it's just it's simply 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.280 not good. And we've talked about this in the past, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.520 and you know the idea that subsidies are a great alternative. 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.280 I think it's more of a band aid patch. Why 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.920 can't moderates get this done? And what's the resistance from 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.400 the other side of the party here. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:15.280 Well, this whole issue of the expiring extra Obamacare subsidies, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.280 which has been you know, at the top of the 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.840 news now for months, has been driven by Democrats and 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.560 the press and looks on the left who smell an 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.120 opportunity to put Republicans on the defensive in twenty twenty 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.200 six and basically blame the high cost of healthcare on 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.640 the GOP, which is a pretty amazing thing to try 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:44.840 to do, since the high cost is really due to Obamacare, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.480 which is a completely Democratic party creation. And now the 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.840 subsidies are going to expire on January once. Despite all 0:01:53.920 --> 0:02:00.080 the drama the modern Republicans who wanted to extend the subsidies. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.560 We're never able to. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.840 Solve some of the very simple practical problems, like how 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.960 do you extend the subsidies without extending all the fraud 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.840 and waste, the fake Social Security numbers, the phantom and rollees, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:20.880 and all the problems that the extra subsidies fueled. I 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.440 think they realized they needed to do something, and they 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.400 put some token reforms in. They also never dealt with 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.440 the fact that the pro life community has said, well, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:35.240 any extension has to add protections so that there's no 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.120 taxpayer funding of abortion, and this plan publicans basically just 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.360 ignored that, which that makes the bill a non starter 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.440 in Congress with all the pro life members. And then 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.440 you have a Speaker Johnson this week saying sure, I'll 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.720 let the House vote on an extension. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.280 But you do need to pay for it. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.560 You need to offset the cost. The cost is like 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.320 twenty five to thirty billion dollars with a bee every 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.560 single year that you extend the subsidies. That's a lot 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.600 of money. And moderate Republicans said, no, no, no, no, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.760 we just want to extend the subsidies. We don't want 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.840 to pay for it. We'll Uncle Sam's credit card. So 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.320 they weren't serious in a sense, they were played by 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:26.360 the Democrats who have disingenuously pretended that they want to 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.240 continue the subsidies and prevent what they describe. I think 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:35.680 they exaggerate as some kind of premium increase of they 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.560 want an issue. They want to blame the failures of 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:43.160 Obamacare on the Republican Party, and the question is will 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:47.040 Republicans go along with that? So far it sounds like 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.480 Mike Johnson and John Thune in the Senate and the 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.720 other Republicans. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.880 Have they're falling for it. They're not, you know, it's. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.240 Loosey in the football and they're not going to fall 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.000 for it this time. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.720 And on that, and we've talked about this in the past, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.440 the fact of the matter is you're just you know, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.400 it's a subsidy fest, is what it is. And if 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.720 you subsidize anything, you're just covering up the true cost. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.160 You're giving people a coupon a voucher basically, which ingratiates 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.320 them with government and elected officials. Obviously, so politicians on 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.000 the left get reelect and elected for that. But it 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.839 doesn't solve the main issue, which is why is healthcare 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.400 so afford unaffordable in the first place for most people? 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.480 And that number is growing now. I did see some 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.040 surveys it said if you have private healthcare insurance, which 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.599 is the bulk of America, you seem to be pretty 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.279 happy with that. But the problem there and then lies 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.840 is the diminishing number of companies offering healthcare. I mean, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.440 at some point the scale's going to tip the other way. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:43.040 What then, Well, you're absolutely right about that. The number 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:49.120 of companies employers offering healthcare has been shrinking under Obamacare. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.960 It's been very gradual, more so recently. And actually the 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.600 Paragon Health Institute put out a paper recently where they 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.440 noted that if the subsidies are extended, the extra COVID 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:08.720 era money, it will actually accelerate the decline in small 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.520 businesses offering insurance to their employees. Small businesses are really 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.760 really hurt by the high cost of healthcare. They find 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.040 it hard to offer you know, coverage to their employees. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.799 And and you know, Obamacare has become so much more 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:31.200 generous than the federal subsidy for workplace coverage that it's 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.400 like the employee for these employers, it's it's a real 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.560 easy call. They'll just stop offering health addreds to their employees. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.440 Right right, which undermines the whole system. Like Obamacare is, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.080 like the idea was, hey, we get enough young people 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.120 to pay for the older people who use care more 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.800 then that that's fine. But so many young people because 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.640 of because the economy, look at it go well, you know, what. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.200 I'm perfectly healthy. I'm not going to subscribe to this. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.200 I'm not going to pay into a system that i 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.520 may not have to take benefits out for some time 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.080 if ever. That's all well and good, but it doesn't 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.360 keep the system afloat. And so it's a Ponzi scheme, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:04.960 is what it is. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.360 Yeah, yeah, that's right. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.559 For Democrats, it's all about the ultimate goal of putting 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:15.920 the government completely in charge of our healthcare. And you know, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.480 so they like to cause crises and then exploit the crises, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.000 and in some ways that's what they're doing now now, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.799 you know. On the bright side, the Republicans, in addition 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.239 to not buckling all this pressure to in a sense, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.320 bail out Obamacare and continue masking its failures, they've also 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.359 started coming up with really good health reform ideas which 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.400 they have been actually voting on. The House will vote 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.960 either today or tomorrow on a bill that would actually 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:52.680 reduce health insurance premiums for American workers, whereas the Democrats 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.080 plan does not reduce health insurance premiums by a penny. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.240 Expanding Obamacare bailing it out, does not reduce the cost 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.599 of healthcare, just masks it, and you know, there's some 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.480 good stuff in the Republican bill that's going to be 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.760 voted on it, things like association health plans, which you know, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.880 enable small businesses to group together so they can get 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:20.800 large group discount rates, and that should lower premiums for 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.480 those businesses by like thirty percent for their employees. There's 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:31.040 also a provision in the bill that would end some 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.240 of the inflationary waste in the Obamacare system where the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:42.640 insurers are basically incentivized to bloat their premiums at taxpayer expense, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.800 and that would not only save thirty billion dollars over 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.440 ten years, but it would reduce Obamacare premiums generally by 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:56.080 eleven percent. That actual relief for the people that we're 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.200 talking about who are going to lose or see smaller 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:04.320 subsidies in January. Again, the Democrat plan doesn't help those 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:09.640 people at all, except with massive taxpayer But. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:10.600 Here's the thing. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.400 Do you know, I just saw new study numbers here, 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:17.240 poll numbers, and they've been pretty consistent that independence especially 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.800 factor into this as well. But something right around sixty 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.960 percent of six out of ten people who are on 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.160 the ACA think it works fine, that they actually like 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.920 the Obamacare and their healthcare. That's a boulder Republicans are 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.640 trying to push up. Hell, that's going to be difficult. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.880 Well, it's true that. Look in any health insurance subsidy scheme, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.680 most people are probably gonna like it because most people 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.800 are healthy most of the time. They don't actually have 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.960 to use the insurance. If it's a bad system, like 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.360 one of these socialized medicine systems in Britain and Canada 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.120 and so on, most people say it's great because they 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.199 never have to interact with it. It's only when they 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.800 do that they begin to see the serious flaws of 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.640 government run healthcare. But you know you mentioned sixty percent. 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:01.760 I'll give you a statistics. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.640 Sixty percent of the people who are on Obamacare now 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.920 we'll be able to find a plan that costs them 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.160 less than fifty dollars a month, less than two dollars 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.480 a day, and yet we're told this is a premium apocalypse. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.760 I think we're going to find after January first, that 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:26.959 the reports of the tsunami the apocalypse were greatly exaggerated. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:32.120 Probably hopefully Probably that will encourage Republicans to keep trying 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:37.040 to reform healthcare, expand health savings accounts as they voted 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.000 on in the Senate. In fact, we got fifty one 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:46.000 senators last week to vote to basically let people who 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.320 are on Obamacare take part of their subsidy as a 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.000 deposit to a health savings account. So instead of that 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.720 money going to and ensure, it's going to use the 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.200 patient and you can decide what care and doctors you 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.679 want to without without insurance company meddling. That's the future 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.200 of American healthcare in our view, with Americans for Prosperity 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.239 fund patients, not insurans. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.040 Dean Clancy's here, he's a senior health policy fellow Americans 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.520 for Prosperity, And today the House, I'm not going to 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.360 vote on that extension for the ACA jeprising up over 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.280 twenty million Americans in their Obamacare. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:19.840 Uh. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.760 In debating what the what the Republican plan looks like? 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.160 But again and I get it. You know, you give 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.080 people money. Technically it should drive down costs because of 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.320 you know, better competitional Like. One of the things in 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.200 there though is, uh, you know, the funding, cost share 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.679 reductions and price transparency. But Trump issued an executive order 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.280 and price transparency what back in twenty ninety so six 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.760 years ago, and hops are posting prices, but we're not 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.800 seeing meaningful cost reduction. So if history is a indicator 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.640 of future behavior, is this really going to matter? 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:57.040 Dean, Well, we absolutely need price transparency, especially if we do. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.080 But they're not doing it. That's the prible even even 0:10:59.080 --> 0:10:59.960 with Frin's order. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.600 No, that's right there. Actually you said they're complying, but 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:08.560 really they're not. They're putting out garbled information, they're hiding 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.280 it on their websites. They're making it so you can't 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:18.160 compare with their competitors. Trump's hospital price transparency mandate really 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.240 has not worked. And this confirmed something that we had 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.600 afp of long belief, which is you don't get price 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:28.000 transparency through government mandates. You get it from markets, and 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.960 markets happen when the consumer controls the dollars. Just like 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.920 in the gas station of the grocery store, there's transparent 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.800 prices there. Why because everybody's walking in carrying cash, they 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.360 demand to see the prices. That's how you'll get it 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.360 in healthcare too, and that's why we want everyone to 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.840 have a health savings account and to be able to 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.320 have insurance free options or options that are supplemental to 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.760 insurance where you don't have some third party paying the bill. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.679 You pay the bill, and when that happens, prices become 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.960 transparent naturally, right. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.440 But still the problem, of course is healthcare affordability. This 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.240 may drive some of the costs down. I mean, we 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.080 just talked about Trump's order price transparency, which is not working. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.720 I'll hold my breath and see if this plan actually 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.920 lowers prices. In theory, it may, But what do you 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.160 tell someone who's going to lose their healthcare as of 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.640 December thirty first of this year. I get why subsidies exist, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.840 and I hate them as much as you do. But 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.440 for someone who otherwise can't afford health insurance and you 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.120 look at it, going, well, they're going to take this 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.560 away from me, where do you go? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:30.079 What do you do? 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.960 It's not about giving you your dollars back in life, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.840 because so many people are making a choice these days 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.960 and going I just simply can't afford healthcare, or you're younger, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.320 which is the big problem with Obamacare. And I'm not 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.920 going to pay into the system at all. If I 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.640 get really, really sick, I'll go to the hospital and 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.240 I have to treat me. They have no choice. I 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.000 think a lot of people are seeing that as the 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.360 nuclear option, so to speak. Doesn't that undermine the whole system? 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.760 It does, and you put your finger on the real question, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:01.320 which is healthcare affordability. The folks who are going to 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:05.040 be receiving smaller subsidies, by the way, it's still going 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.640 to be very generous. Obamacare is still going to cover 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.600 like eighty percent of the cost of your health insurance policy, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.280 which is a pretty nice deal. But for those who 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.760 are negatively affected, some of you, they have options. For example, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:23.240 some can just switch to a less costly insurance plan. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.840 You know, you have a menu of plans you can 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.640 choose from. Maybe you downgrade from what they call silver 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.200 to bronze, and so you still have insurance, but it 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.440 costs you less. Number of the people that are affected 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.280 actually have access to workplace insurance, either directly or through 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.000 a spouse. And there are even some who are eligible 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.080 and sometimes even enrolled on Medicaid, the program for low 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.200 income of folks. That's not technically not lawful. You're not 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.240 supposed to be on both Obamacare and Medicaid simultaneously, but 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.760 it turns out there are millions of people who are 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.760 because the government does not police it well, the real 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.800 hard cases are going to be the folks who make 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.680 more than about for an individual, about sixty thousand dollars 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.720 a year. That's the anecdotes you're going to see in 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.560 the headlines because some of them are going to see 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.680 a really big increase in out of pocket why because 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.880 they're going to lose their subsidy altogether. These are folks 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.720 that Democrats, you know, four years ago, thought shouldn't get 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.200 any subsidy at all. But they're going to be the 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:31.160 sob stories. But those people represent just one half of 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.480 one percent of the US population. I do think they 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.360 are going to need some kind of help, but expanding 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.680 Obamacare is not the way to do it. Better to 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.200 do the things like Republicans are proposing to bring actually 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.520 bring down the price of health insurance for everybody, not 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.080 just the seven percent of Americans who are on Obamacare, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.880 but for the ninety three percent as well who are 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.040 not on Obamacare. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.720 Right, makes sense. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.280 We'll revisit this, I'm sure after the first of the year, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.960 when everyone will running around with their hair on fire, screaming, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.960 and as always, it's not as bad as they're making 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.080 out to be. But again, if you look at the 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.160 political implications here. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:09.880 It doesn't. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.840 It's not a good look for the Republicans for sure, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:13.920 not to be able to come up sort of compromise 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.560 to at least negotiating extent. It gives Congress the aura 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.200 of an inefficient incompetency in a sense, because you know, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.360 we're again just kicking the can down the road and 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.400 not addressing anything, and eventually the bomb's going to explode, 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.000 is how it goes. Dean Clancy at Americans for Prosperity. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.200 Thanks again for the time. Do you know I appreciate it. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:33.200 Oh, it was a pleasure. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:33.880 Thanks again. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.040 We'll get a news update in here in just minutes. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.800 On seven hundred WLW and Win a return on the 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.280 Scott Sloan Show. Today, Mark's an important day in Ohio 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:43.200 sports history. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:43.960 Do you know what that is? 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:57.240 Details right after this on seven hundred WW, I's Lona 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 here seven hundred ww Welcome to it. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.480 Midweek, Here we go. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:09.160 A monumental day today, a monumental day in history. On 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.680 this date in nineteen hundred and ninety five, the Cleveland 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.600 Browns hosted their final game before they moved the franchise 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.920 to Baltimore, where they won their first Super Bowl in 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:28.640 six years. Six years took them to achieve glory after 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:29.480 leaving Cleveland. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:30.680 Get the dust at Cleveland. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.160 I've got this audio Matt Reese in the closing minutes 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.200 of that game back in nineteen ninety five. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:37.680 Here you go. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.200 We got about a minute twenty left in the game 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.000 at this point, and it's getting very ugly. In the 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.400 Dog Pound, they are lifting the bleacher seats out and 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:52.440 throwing them down by the gold Post act of goodwill, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.920 the Cleveland Browns are heading to the Dog Pound and 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.440 are embracing the fans who just a few minutes ago 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.720 were throwing bleacher benches out onto the field. All the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.080 way around, it seems as though the security is holding 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.000 people back. There is no great rush to the field, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.719 and this act of gratitude by the Cleveland Browns seems 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.320 to be keeping those bands from rushing the field. There's 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.040 a bunch of debris all around. There are actually benches 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.960 and seat sections that. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.800 Have been thrown onto the field. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:31.000 I four three two one, and that will do it 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.760 for the Cleveland Browns. At Municipal Stadium, the Bengals have 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.240 lost twenty six to ten. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.000 Carsla was right. They're throwing Bengals. They're throwing stuff on 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.080 the field. They're throwing bleachers on the field out of anger. Ugh, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.439 I remember those days. I remember those days as a 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.440 younger version of myself. They got a new franchise that 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.720 at night. So that's ninety five, ninety nine, they get 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:57.680 a franchise and since then they have They've been through 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:03.160 forty one quarterbacks. They have lost, ad have ted twenty 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:08.560 two losing seasons in twenty six years. And when it 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.320 comes to success, three times they went to the postseason 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.760 since nineteen ninety nine, lost in the wild card round twice, 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.040 so bumped out the first round and then advanced to 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.359 the divisional round. Just once, just once, you know, you 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.880 examined that. And by the way, as he pointed out, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.199 the Bengals lost to that awful team that season. The 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:36.320 futility of football in the Buckeye State, it is an 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.399 exercise in futility. I mean the Bengals, I think this 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.800 will be their sixteenth losing season since nineteen ninety nine. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.800 Certainly not as bad as Cleveland. They hold the all 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.600 time suck record at twenty two. But you know, you 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.520 talk about the season that could have been here in Cincinnati, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.399 and obviously we love to relish in the pain of 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.280 other teams, especially divisional opponents in Cleveland that want to 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:00.000 see them do well. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.080 Do I want to see Pittsburgh do well? 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.320 Certainly they want to see Baltimore do well. But here 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.160 in Cincinnati, it's not like we don't have our own problems. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.800 We can commiserate with the Browns fans. They lost the franchise, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.000 they got it back, and some may ask, well, weren't 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.440 they just maybe just better off not having a football 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.800 team at this point. We often have that conversation in Cincinnati. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.200 We have certainly had success, more success than the Browns 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.680 with multiple owners and mentioned head coaches and just going 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.560 through them. We don't do that here in Cincinnati. I 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.359 don't think that's anything to hang your hat on. It 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.480 seems rather like low hanging fruit or just simply low expectations, like, well, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.600 at least we're not Cleveland, that's true, or not Pittsburgh 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.000 or Baltimore either would be nice to achieve some level 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:41.879 of success, go to the Super Bowl and losing it. 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.880 I mean, that's all around good. I know all about that. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.360 As a Bills fan, I just would like to see 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.280 one of my teams do something in my lifetime. Is 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.119 that too much to ask? The answer is it probably is. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.920 It probably is, But especially considering you know, seat gates. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.679 Speaking of seats ending up on the field, we couldn't 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.760 do that on Sunday at pay Court simply because they 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.199 were frozen and buried under eight inches of ice that 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.679 they didn't bother to clean off. But nonetheless, the futility 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.600 of being a football fan in Ohio is something else. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.040 It's just a whole different level. It really really is. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.680 Nineteen ninety five Browns final game against the Bengals. Bengals 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.000 loose against a franchise that was pulling up steaks and 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.480 leaving fantastic. This morning, I'm flipping around we have in 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.400 the newsroom, as you imagine, all right, sitting have coffee 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.880 and waste people's time. Prior to the show The Fox 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.320 nineteen and Ken Baker over there, who does the kicking 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.520 with Ken segmentar. He goes around town do different stuff. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:37.199 I noticed it. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.400 I did not know this, but today he was at 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.920 the French chew factory, which I had no idea French 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.879 chews were made in Cincinnati. Furthermore, it is one of 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:51.600 those very interesting head scratching kind of things where you go. 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.520 You know, I've seen French chew before, like in the 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.680 candy aisle at checkout counters. Occasionally see it there, maybe 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.160 not as much as he used to. And you at 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.560 the same time, I don't know anyone have seen anyone 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.959 ever buy French shoe. I mean it exists, somebody's eating it. 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.480 I have no idea if it's like taffy or what. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.840 And I'm not insulting and throwing shade at the French 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.040 jew people here in Cincinnati, but just seems like a 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.400 weird thing. Like you know, opera cream is different because 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.080 it's only during Easter. You get the opera creams during Easter. Okay, 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:25.960 it's like a once yea, hey got it. 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:26.240 Okay. 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.960 It's a big thing, that French shoe. It's around, but 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:30.680 you never see one eating it. It's a weird thing, 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.119 really really strange. This leaves me scratching my head. Anyway, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.560 We've got lots to get to today. On this Wednesday mornings, 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.200 he wind it down for the holidays. A lot of folks, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.040 I know, it's a fewer and fewer people with the 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.680 passing days here on the road. And I would suggest 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.360 that next week especially probably not going to be many 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.920 people at work because the way the holiday falls, folks 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.080 will be burning their vacation days as well. Your damn 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.280 should you can't take them with you, right, can't take 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.479 vacation days when you're dead. So yeah, just we're kind 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.040 of winding it down towards the end of the year. 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.000 I can't tell you later the show here on seven 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.720 hundred WLW, we do have. It's not like, you know, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.000 the news cycle is over, there's nothing going on, because 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.800 there are a few things, namely, tonight President Trump will 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.879 address the nation, and I think we have uc basketball 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.960 here on seven hundred WW and we have Xavier basketball 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:19.840 on fifty five KRC. But you know, talking about to 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.880 Michelle Schultz, especially in the eleven o'clock hour, she's a trade attorney, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.560 and leaves me scratched my haut. Tonight, the President's going 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.120 to talk about this. I'd imagine healthcare may be part 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.720 of the plan. I don't know if he's gonna talk 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.520 about it, but basically it says, hey, you know what, 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.760 affordability might be a figment of your imagination. 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:39.280 I'm not sure that to me. 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.800 You know, of all the stuff that politicians try to 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:47.280 sell you on, I you know, better than anybody if 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.640 stuff more costs more than it did a year ago 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:50.280 or whenever it is. 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.320 I mean, you know, it's it's the economy stupid. 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:53.280 You know. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.080 Being told is like, well, no, you're fine, everything's good. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.400 It really that doesn't play with most people. I mean, 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.600 you know exactly how much money you have in your 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.639 checking and savings account and how much you can afford, 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.640 and when you go in, and the price of beef 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:08.160 and everything else is through the roof. Albeit the one 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.520 saving grace would of course be gas prices are very low. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.480 But at the same time you go in, you know, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.119 may take that money you're filling your car up with 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.240 and having to buy I don't know, beef, maybe some 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.679 ground beef, and it's it's prohibitively expensive for a lot 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.760 of people. Yeah, one I noticed I like to eat. 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.119 I notice the price going Man, beef feels like a 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.520 luxury these days, it really does. And chicken thighs and 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:28.920 like the are still pretty cheap. But again, you know, 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.679 a price everything is going up. This is how it is. 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.639 He's going to try to tell people, maybe what the 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.480 plan is. I wonder. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.919 I hope he doesn't lean into the it's all a 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.360 lie by the Democrats, because that's going to go over 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.479 like a fart in church. Let's call it what that is. 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.640 But relative to the terroraces I was talking about, we'll 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.280 get into that a little bit later on with Michelle 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.960 Schultzi's a trade attorney. I think it's interesting because today 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.959 this goes to show you the hypocrisy of politics. So today, 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.240 relative to the Affordable Care Act, which is not of course, 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.240 anything you subsidize is not afford You're making it look 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:01.960 like it's affordable. 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:02.159 It's not. 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.199 You're just taking money from somewhere else and giving it 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.680 to people to make it look for them that it's affordable. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.399 It's not affordable. Affordable Care acts a joke. It drives 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.439 the cost up. Subsidy makes stuff cost more, not less. 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:17.600 So moderate Republicans are trying to squeeze the party and saying, look, 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.520 we've got to at least extend this for a year 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.240 or two so we can sort this out. Because our 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.080 seats are in jeopardy. People are going to hold us 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.760 responsible if you have some twenty what twenty two million 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:31.600 Americans get their subsidies cut, there's gonna be backlash for that. 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.440 We may have to pay the political price for that. 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.159 Republicans locked them out, said we're not budging on this, 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.760 and we're going to introduce our own plan today and 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.160 move forward on that when it does include more subsidies 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.479 for Obamacare. Okay, got it. So subsidies are bad. Remember 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.680 that subsidies are bad. Tonight, at nine o'clock, the President's 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.720 going to talk about the tariffs, and I'm gonna guess 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.200 he's going to go, Look, here's what we're going to 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.480 do with all this money, the nearly quarter trillion dollars 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.840 that we got from tariffs. We're going to do what 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.720 with Well, what we're going to do is maybe give 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.760 you a check for two thousand dollars. Maybe what we're 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.399 going to do is pay down the deficit. Probably not. 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.000 What we're going to do are tax cuts, eliminating income taxes, 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.400 all this stuff that we're going to do some eight 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.680 different plans to spend the tariff money that's come in. 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.720 I would look at it and go, well, okay, didn't 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.879 we just give farmers here in Ohio specifically lost like 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.200 seventy six million dollars in exports to China. 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:30.120 We give them? 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.560 We did on top of what happened last round twelve 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.520 billion dollars in bailouts. Meanwhile, we've lost seventeen billion to 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:43.240 China on agricultural trade alone. So isn't that a subsidy? 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.520 And the answer would be, yeah, that's a subsidy. Like 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.920 wait a minute, we're against subsidies with healthcare, but we're 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.600 for them when it comes to tariffs and farmers. Yes, 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.080 that is called Washington logic. 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:55.800 Is what that is? 0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.440 You know, I don't know why you're in support of 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.159 the president if it's still where it was when he 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.080 got a lot when you voted for him, or maybe 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.080 it's wane as for a lot of people as well. 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.800 That certainly doesn't help the case. And you know, the 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.240 idea that we're going to go and drain the swamp 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.120 and do things differently and shake it up. 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:13.960 I don't know. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:18.120 That sounds like more Washington politics to me, which leaves 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.760 a lot of people. And I think a lot of 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.119 people who voted for Trump and the administration, I think 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.240 it leaves them don't feel like you're holding the bag, 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.520 so to speak. I think you can't be against tariffs 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.160 when it's healthcare, but for them when it's for farmers, 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.400 it just doesn't make any said terrorists, it's a terror 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.280 or terriffs. Can't be against subsidy. Rather, I should say 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.679 when it's healthcare versus farmers, same thing. Quit taking the 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.960 money and giving it to other people. Why not just 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.680 fix the issue? How do you make healthcare affordable? Get 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.560 the hell out of the healthcare game. And a lot 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.399 of people buy their own health care in the free market. 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.320 The money you save from all this other nonsense can 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.200 go to helping the indigen and the working poor, which 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.000 we should make the system work better. Give them the 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.000 money they can spend it in the open market. Get 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.159 your employer out of that line of work. But a 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.600 lot of Americans, Americans like the healthcare they get in 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.840 private sector and won't give that up. And conversely, now 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.560 study came out shows about sixty six and ten Americans 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.320 and that number has been consistent when they pull that 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.439 they like their affordable character, they like their Obamacare. So 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.840 you have those two things that are removable objects. 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.960 What now? What now? Five and three? 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:19.160 Seven? 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.360 The big one on the French chew topic. Real quick, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.760 here will in Northern Kentucky on the Big one will 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.480 give me the update on French chew. 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.480 Hey, Tony, how are you doing I'm the guy that 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.280 started that World War two bet. His name was Harry Dosher, okay, 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.680 and they also made the Easter eggs every year still 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.720 they still do. But he was down on Court Street 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.199 by downtown soon set. He is there probably for I 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:48.159 think I think his grandfather even started. It's what I 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.560 remember the story seeing a picture on the wall. He 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.120 was in there a couple of times doing some work. 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.399 So anyway, great guy World War two bet Court Street. 0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:00.600 He makes the Dosher Easter eggs too, Gosha. So I 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.320 think what sold off back in the mid ninety first, 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.840 excuse me, mid two thousands, I think a sun owner 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:06.360 per while. 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:07.880 Then eventually it was bloked by. 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.440 Another Doser makes They make candy canes too, don't they. 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.679 Yes, they do, okay, I thought knew that name right. 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.959 Right right, love the little can Little candy canes are 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.800 the best. It's just the right to the the fun 0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.200 sized candy canes. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:21.360 If you will. 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.320 I always said, you know, the French choo is actually 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:25.879 invented by a dentist, you know, but. 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:28.920 Well it's kind of like it's it's like taffy. 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:34.280 Right, Oh yeah, I never did, no understand. I meant 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:35.840 they asked him how he came up with that named 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.520 Harry died several years ago, but you know how it 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.680 came up with that name French chew, you. 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.960 Know, and as I said, it's it's you know, it's 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:44.720 around and you know that, Oh yeah, French chew. I've 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.480 seen it like a checkout or you know, we're candy 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.000 or candy aisle. But I've never seen anyone actually buy 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.160 it or jew out. I like walking by going, hey, 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.360 somebody's having French chew. You just it's been around, it's there. 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.320 They make a lot of it. I just don't know 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.520 anyone who's eating it well. 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.840 Was also in the American Legion. Harry was a big 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.360 support of the American Legion. Roseland and but it was 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.080 you know, we would get to merriedan to the family. 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.200 We'd get boxes of those things. 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.280 To the point where you to the point where you go, okay, 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.560 I've but enough French chew. 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.080 I think I'm pretty good here. 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:20.680 It gives you your teeth a good work out because 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.640 that stuff is sticky stick you know. When McConnell retired, 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.720 he took the Reese's Peanut butter cups with him. Because 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.720 I'm a huge fan of Rees's but and I think 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.840 the guy who brought him into mic, like, I mean 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.400 for a while, you know the story, like once a 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.840 month he brings a case of different races and we've 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.400 got the Christmas trees for the holidays, and the regular 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.400 ones are new ones that came the Oreo flavored ones, 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.120 and we all probably put on ten pounds each, I 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.400 think over the last couple of years from the gratuitous 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.240 display of Reeses, which I'm a huge fan of. I 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.640 love chocolate, I love peanut butter. Together it is magic. 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:56.080 Maybe I just started doing that with French chee. I'll 0:29:56.080 --> 0:30:00.200 be the French Chew ambassador. Yeah, we got but they 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.000 got vanilla. I know there's vanilla. There's a bunch of 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.280 different flavors as well. It's just a it's a funny thing, 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.760 not throwing shade against French Chew Cincinnati Company. And it's 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.840 been going on obviously since World War Two, so that's awesome. 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.480 But just you see it and you go, oh, yeah, 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.280 I didn't know what's made here. And then secondly it's 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.080 like I don't recall anyone going yacht. What's your favorite candy? 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.560 French Chew. Maybe it'll come back like everything. It's all retro, baby, 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.520 it's all retro these days. Uh and five one three 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.760 for nine seven thousand. Dave on the French chew topic. 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.200 I think I've hit a nerve here. What's going on? 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:29.480 Brother? 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.840 Yes, the French cho is made in Newtown, yep. And 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:38.040 they also make the dots, the candy dots on the paper. 0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.680 Oh really, the dot the not not the dots dots, 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.479 the dots in the box, but the ones that are 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.320 in paper, right, sugar dots. Yeah, yeah, okay, I've seen 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.200 those before. I didn't know they made those two. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.959 Yes, And they make full size candy canes all different, gotcha? 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:56.440 All right, that's all. Yeah? Good. 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:57.720 Have you had a French chew? 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:00.560 It's been years, okay. 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:01.520 I think that's. 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.600 Also part of the problem, right, It's like, yeah, it's 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.200 been a long time, and I'm sure I've had a 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:09.200 French chew before. I just can't recall how remarkable it was, 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:09.800 that's all. 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:10.520 That's all. 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:12.200 Yeah. 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.720 The dots on paper, I remember, get those. I wonder that, like, 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.280 I think I still make them. It just it struck 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.800 me as maybe after and I wasn't born then, but 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.440 it struck me during the sixties Zeitgeist when people were 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:33.840 dropping acid that maybe candy on paper. I was like, yeah, okay, 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.360 you're gonna start handle those in Halloween. You might look 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.640 at it a little side. I going, yeah, dots of 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.320 sugar on paper? What could go wrong there on a 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.920 little wax paper. But I suppose if it's packaged up 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.600 or whatever. And you know, if you're a kid, you 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:45.959 don't care. 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.000 Sugar pixie sticks Just basically eating powdered kool. 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.840 Aid is what we're doing. Love the pisy and pixie sticks. 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.680 You just give me sugar in any way, shape or form. 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:55.040 Baby. 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.880 I know everyone wants to talk about talk about the 0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.760 French chew when we've picked that up some other time. 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.479 But anyway, I gotta get a news update, and here 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.000 find it at the very latest. What's happening in and 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.560 around the world. Mentioned the President speaking tonight at nine o'clock. 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.000 When return on the Scotts Loan Show a little bit 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.360 after ten o'clock here on seven hundred WLW, I mentioned 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:17.520 I had Dean Clancy on earlier talking about talking about 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:18.840 the vote on healthcare coming up. 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.880 As Michael is eis we all worry about aging? 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.560 The older you get, the more fearful you are of 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.200 dying and trying to do things to hold back the 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:25.760 hands of time. 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:26.280 That is true. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.200 Probably don't care as much as you're eighteen than when 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.520 you're eighty about things like that. However, we have new 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.840 science involving slowing down aging. How much can you slow 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:34.440 aging down? 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:34.520 On? 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:35.240 What does it take? 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.120 We'll get to that with Michael afternoons on the Home 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.560 of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWT Cincinnati. 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.960 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:49.320 Slowly backcoun seven hundred ww AG Oh yeah, that is 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.960 aging optional. No, we all age, but you can slow 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.280 it down a bit. The question is how, and the 0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.480 answer is science, our healthcare system, our culture in general. 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.600 We pretty much focus on treating symptoms and not prevention, 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.040 and that is a I think that's a big problem 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.160 for us, but that's how we think, that's how we're programmed. 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.200 He is doctor Michael Azaz. He's an internist and regenitive 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.760 medicine specialist. And there are three or four big things 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.160 you need to know if you want to slow your 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.840 aging down a little bit. Not as important, probably not 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:19.760 feel it your twenties or thirties, but the time you 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.880 hit that forty year old mark on your old odometer, 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.880 you start thinking, man, things are getting sore, I'm getting 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.400 tired faster and all that stuff as well. And the 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.440 solution may be something you can do yourself. Doctor Z's 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:32.000 welcome to the show. 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.840 How are you good morning? Thank you so much for 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:35.480 having me, Scott. 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.560 Yeah, would you agree on that too. As we tend 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.320 to treat symptoms and diagnosies and go, okay, well we 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.200 have a medicine for this, but instead instead of fixing 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.840 what's ailing you, we just kind of prop things up 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:49.480 and mask over the signs. 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.000 That is totally true. We tend to accept getting older 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.200 as something that we need to take for granted and 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.000 it's normal to get older. But if we treat aging 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.240 as a disease, which is a you concept and medicine, 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.959 we can age in a totally different way and prevent 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.200 chronic ASI raviss from happening in the first place. And 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.320 that's what I talk about in my books. 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.120 Let's go through that too, And it's something I do 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.160 a few of these things already, and I've said this 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.040 is a year I'm going to get more much more 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.920 serious about it. I think as I get closer and 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.480 closer to the big six to oh, farther away from 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.080 the big five oh and closer to the six to o. 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.200 And I do, and it works for me. I do 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:27.080 intermittent fasting. 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.880 And also I'll probably last meal I'll have is I 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.080 don't know, maybe anywhere between five and seven o'clock and 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.400 won't eat until after twelve o'clock the next day. And 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.359 for those of my god, how are you doing that? 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.319 I think it's easier as you get older because your 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.560 body needs less calories to function. So let's talk about 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.960 intermittent fasting and why that is so good for you. 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.240 All right, So, one of the whole marks of aging 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.440 is we have a young cells in our bodies and 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.160 we have old sellsand our bodies. And the old cells 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.680 not only do not function our bodies, but they also 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.080 discrupt the young cells. And that's one of the reasons 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.919 why we get older. And by doing what you're doing, 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.959 intermittent fasting or not eating for a period of time, 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.959 you're getting rid of the old cells. So the body 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.960 is like screaming, is like, what's happening is that person's starving? 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.200 So the body starts to eat the dead cells, the 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.919 cancer cells, and how intermittent fasting works in longevity. I'm 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.319 not a fan of prolonged fasting where you don't eat 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.440 for several days because you can lose muscle masks if 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.640 you skip a meal or eating between. Just eat our period. 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.480 That's great as long as you're eating the balance diet, 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.000 which in protein and antioxins and vitamins. You get rid 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.040 of the old cells. It's in essence cells and one 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.840 way to prolonged life, and that has been proven to 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:45.280 prolonged life in many animal studies, even monkeys, so probably 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.080 will do the same in humans as well. 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.439 Yeah, atopogy is what it's called. 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.919 So basically as I understood it, and the simple way 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.320 to explain this is like your body is always looking 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.400 for something to do. Your body is very very busy, 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.239 even though you may be sleeping or whatever, it's looking 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.480 for stuff to do. And if it's not busy digesting 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.000 food and try and figure out, you know, where to 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.240 send all the things here. It does housekeeping. It basically 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.120 cleans house and that is cleaning up all the old 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.880 dead cells. Some of those could promote things like cancer 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:10.680 and other illnesses. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:13.879 That is totally true. And you know in the Middle East, 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.680 the rates of cancer are eighty five percent than the 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.480 United States and Europe. And that's because of the intermittent 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.279 fasting they do during the religious holiday of Ramadan. So 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.399 even though they eat massive amounts of sugar in eight 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:31.520 hour period, that period of it's kind of intermittent fasting. 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.200 It's promotes authosogy and it kills the sentis themselves. So 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.680 that's something we can learn from different countries around the world. 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.520 That that's what I share in the book. 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.680 Yeah, if you could eat one big meal a day, 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.640 you can pretty much eat, you know, with a restriction. 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.279 You can't go out an entire trail asagna or you know, 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.320 three large pizzas, but you can eat your food and 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.240 be full and still being a calorie deficit. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.040 So it also helps to lose weight, right, you. 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.279 Know, you're talking like Brian Johnson who's pretty much just 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.960 eating once one meal. 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:01.239 Of a day. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.280 That's very tough, but that probably has the most impact 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.120 on longevity. But I would say we have to enjoy life. 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.560 I'm not a fan of just not eating for a 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.240 long time. But what you're doing is totally good because 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.120 just eating an eight hour period is doable, is manageable. 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.279 You're not depriving yourself and you're probably going to get 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:20.080 the same benefits. 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.879 Yeah, and now if you're busy too, if I'm doing 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.520 a construction type of stuf, might have a bigger lunch 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.799 and a decent sized dinner. But if I'm not, then 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.080 it just you know, you gotta listen to your body 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.759 and not stuff yourself all the time. And that's easier 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.920 said than done because food is so damn good. So 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.000 intermittnfasting one thing you could do to slow down aging. 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.880 Let's talk about processed foods and anti inflammatories and stuff 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.800 like that. And the thing is, as you get older, 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.759 you notice your body is so much more inflamed. What 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.160 is your body telling you if you suffer from inflammation? 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.640 So what happens is the old self we have in 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.520 our bodies are also not just not functioning, but they 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:58.960 also are secreting inflammatory proteins. And that's why how aging happens. 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.600 And before you know it, you get wrinkled skin, you 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.440 can get joint issues, you can get stomach issues, you 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.439 can get weight gain, and that's inflammation. And one way 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:12.280 to control aging is control inflammation by again intermittent facting, 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:18.280 but by also eating a balanced diet which an empty oxidant, vitamins, mineral, superfoods. 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.080 People have to lose weight because belly fat is linked 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.040 to inflammation when we have so much fat around our bellies, 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:28.160 that's thee greet also inflammatory markers which are very bad 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.520 for ourselves. So it's you have to control inflammation if 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.120 you want to age in a good way. 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.040 One thing, my wife did this not long ago because 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.040 she was having just not feeling well and she went 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.279 someone recommended a and I forget what the name of 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.360 it is, but basically as a diet tissue who focuses 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:46.840 on that, and did a whole bunch of tests and 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.360 found out that she had a gluten sensitivity, and so 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.759 things like gluten also eggs, mushrooms like weird stuff she 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.520 could eat. And she's taken those things out of her 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.200 dial largely and feels so much better. 0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:57.960 Well. 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.600 Food allergies. Of course, if you have foodgies, that can 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.200 also cause inflammation, so that's a good way to get tested. 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.680 You can do a skin test, you can do a 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.000 blood test. That's your doctor's office to make sure to 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.080 avoid the types of food that you're intolerant to. Gluten 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.360 intolerance is very rare. It's only one in two hundred 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.040 people who have it. But if you have gluten intolerance 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.560 or if you have civic disease, definitely have to avoid 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.120 grains because that can cause it inflammation and just being 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.640 on top of health. We have a habit in the 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.839 United States and we get a physical just once year, 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.360 and we think we're going to age in a different 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.279 way and we go on top of our health. But 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.800 really we have to think differently. We have to treat 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.600 aging the disease. We have to take a proactive approach. 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.440 We have to know our food allergies. We have to 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.160 know if there's inflammation. We have to be in a 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:44.240 good way. We have to control aging by supplements, medications 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:45.120 and so on. 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.600 Yeah, and again, as sactor Michael is Eas, he's an 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.960 Internet regenitive medicine specialists. In his books The Ageous Revolution, 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.719 and the question is how do you slow down age? 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.040 Can't stop it, obviously, but you can help yourself as 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.399 you get older. There's things like intermitt and fasting. We're 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.600 talking about proving processed foods from you diet and can 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.319 you not eat? You know, are you so strict that 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.040 you shouldn't need any of this stuff? I mean, who 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.840 doesn't like a good cheeseburger once in a while, or 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.920 I mentioned a pizza or something like that. Do you 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.680 have to sustain yourself completely on whole grains? Could you 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:14.680 work in a cheap day or two there? How's that work? 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.000 The problem in the American diet fifty percent of our 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.480 diet now is process and that's bad. When we eat 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:26.640 process food, we find carbohydrate pizza, doughnut, sugar that promote aging. 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.719 And we have to lower the amount of process food 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.440 we eat. I don't think we can eliminate it totally. 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.080 I think if we go down to ten percent, maybe 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.120 so having it, you know, a pizza once in a while, 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.759 thin cross whole weeks with a lot of vegetables. That's 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.680 a good way. And if you're eating a balanced diet 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.400 which in antioxidens, vitamins, and minerals, and you're exercising, you 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:52.080 can probably counter effect the effect of process food that 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:53.200 you're eating on occasions. 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.200 Yeah, Gut health is another one too that we don't 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.960 pay attention to. Years ago, as in the hospital, got 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.040 seediff and had to eat a lot of yogurt and 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.879 kafir and things like that, and you kind of notice 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.160 you feel a little bit better when you have those 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:08.120 enzymes in your gut. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.640 Yes, so gut heals is one of the whole marks 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.799 of aging that I talk about in my book, and 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.120 I talk in my book also about the countries that 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:20.160 have the longest lifespan and the Blue zones where many 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.760 of them live to one hundred and many of those 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.640 countries they eat a diet that is rich in probiotics. 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.680 They eat fermented food. Even countries not like the Blue zones, 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.919 like South Korea, they eat kinshi. The women in South 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.239 Korea are going to be the first to lift the 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.640 age ninety. And the reason got's so important because in 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.480 our gut lists pillions of bacteria. We have more gut 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:45.359 bacteria than thousand our bodies. And those bacteria promote longevity 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.759 by doing vitamin K two, which prevents heart attack. They 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.200 make a product called eulescene which supplies the mitochondria, the 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.239 mitochondria or the bats of ourselves. And if we have 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.040 bad bacteria, then we have back to inflammation what we 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.120 just talked about and believe in not Scott, we have 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.560 a big problem when we're eating a lot of process foods. 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.200 We're not eating for mented foods we're not eating enough yogurt, 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.560 and that's why gout is very poor. And we have 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:14.320 now an epidemic of calling cancer in men below age fifty. 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.240 And again it has to do with inflammation. So calling 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.680 cancer's number one cancer now in men below age fifty. 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.359 It has to do with our poor gut health. 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.480 How much of this has to do with genetics. 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.839 You've mentioned people that live to one hundred and these 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.880 super agers, but that seems more genetic than lifestyle. 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:30.719 Wrong. 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.160 According to the research I've done for the book, I 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.000 believe seventy percent of our longevity is related to the 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:42.799 things we do diet, stress management, addequate sleep, exercise. Only 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.640 thirty percent genetics player role. And that's why we can 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.520 control our genetic destiny by doing all the good things 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.840 that we can control, or at least we try. 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.359 Yeah, yeah, I mean genetics do go a long way. 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.920 That's why you see people who you know, eat like 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.360 crap for years and they live. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:58.920 Into their eighties. 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.879 But you know, you look around you average nursing home. 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.480 You don't say many too many obese people at nursing homes. 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:05.239 Uh. 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:05.919 Yeah. 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.400 I talked in my book that the longest person living 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.680 in the world was a French woman and she smoked. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.960 So yeah, you're right. It's like really has to do 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.839 with with luck. But I think we all have to 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.399 try to do our very best, not only to eat 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.760 a good uh, a good diet, a balanced die thinkway 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.399 from fat diet, low fat diet with excess sugar, low 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.040 cop with all the chemicals. I tried, and right now 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:32.360 the country is moving in the right direction by limiting 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.000 all the chemicals in our processed food. So I'm glad that. 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.200 But just that's one of the steps to control aging. 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:43.120 There's many things to do to control aging again, express management, 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.799 adequate sleep, supplementation, and medications. Now there are medications to 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.840 control aging that the doctors are not aware of, and 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.920 that's why I want to educate the public about that. 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.880 We can, you know, age a completely different way with 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:57.680 all the advances we have in medicine. 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.360 One of the things I hear, I mean, there's you 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:00.960 know all mega threes, and. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:03.359 Do you take that. 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.920 I do take vitamin D. My vitamin D lovels are perfect. 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.360 I take I take supplements. 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.960 Okay, So fish oil is very important. Fish oil one 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.120 grammar day I can give you four years of longevity. 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.440 That's amazing, and many of us are not taking fish 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.560 oil or we know it goes for us, but we 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.000 exact to take it. But if we're consistent, we can 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.000 have an extra years of longevity just by taking fish oil. 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:23.560 I heard. 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.359 The big one too is vitamin D. We don't get 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.400 a vitamin D. That's that when it comes to cancers 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:28.080 and things like that. 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.360 Yes, absolutely so, I believe in not Scott. Vitamin D 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.440 is so important not only for longevity but also for 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.360 presenttion of COVID. We had a very high rate of 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.480 mortality in the United States from COVID. And if you 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.520 take a look at I live in New York, if 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.040 you take a look at Florida, they had less mortality 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.120 from COVID than we did here in New York in 0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.560 the Northeast. Because vitamin D is mostly from the sun. 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.120 So vitamin D not only plays a role in longevity, 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.120 but it's also the immune system prevention of COVID and 0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:00.200 so on. Yeah, so our mortaliti rate was ten times 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.279 in Japan and South Korea from COVID and that was 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.520 really motivated. What motivated me to write The ageis revolution 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.560 because right now aging is happening in young people. You 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.440 don't have to be old to be you can be. 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.359 In America, you get young and old in the same 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.759 time because of the lifestyle choices we make. 0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:17.880 One of the big components of people hate hearing this 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.359 is exercise, a little resistance training, you know, bands, free weight, 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.080 stuff like that. But you know some of these are like, well, 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.879 you need to work out for sixty minutes a day, 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.520 seven days a week, or five days a week or whatever, 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.000 and especially as you get older, that's really really tough 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.560 to do, and it's tough to do with your schedule. 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.680 So how much is enough when it comes to exercise, 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.600 I albeit just you go and walk on the dog 0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:38.759 or walk around the block or something like that. 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.560 I think any type of exercise you do, regardless the 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.440 amount of time you do, is good for you. Aerobic 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.279 and aerobic, but definitely high intense. The interval training has 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.799 the most impact on longevity. Believe it or not, it 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.719 can add ten years to our lives. But that's a 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.440 very tough type of exercise to do. So I also 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.840 recommend balance, you know, walking, running, doing a little bit 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.080 of streadmills, lifting weight as we get older so they 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:06.959 don't lose muscle mass. And if you're in good health 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.919 and you could do hit. That's fine. Do it, that's good, 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:10.479 that's great. 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.120 It does start to wear the joints down, and you 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.359 got to segue into something else. 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:13.839 That's all. 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.680 If you doctor disease, if you eat like crap like 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.120 in your forties, fifties, maybe your sixties as well, can 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:21.520 you still reverse all this stuff? 0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:24.279 I do think so. 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.160 I think the body has the ability to reset and 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.920 to reboot. And the body. You know, so many people 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.799 are overweight, so many people are diabetics. But if they 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.879 follow a balanced diet of they exercise, they can reverse that. 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.960 And there are supplements and medication that can help them. 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.720 So wait, now, look at the GLP for example, GLP 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.520 drugs and making everybody stand now, everybody's taking them, and 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:50.319 they're reversing diabetes, they're reversing obesity, they're reversing inflammation. You 0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.840 can use muscle masks if you don't change your eating 0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.000 habits and you're eating, you know, a lot of crap 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:58.160 instead of protein and a good diet. But they have 0:46:58.320 --> 0:46:59.919 changed the way we control our weight. 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.760 Where are you on testosterone supplements? 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.319 I'm very big, big proponent of TRT as we get 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:12.800 older because testostrun is declining all over the United States, 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.560 especially in young people. Again, it has to do with stress, 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.840 has to do with low vitamin D, has to do 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.920 we don't enough eat seafood with zinc. And as the 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.960 starstrum goes down, man, we start to feel tired, we 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.440 start to get belly fat, we start to get erection problem. 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.560 And the biggest problem with declining tystoston is it shortens 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.359 our life. And the problem is doctors don't routinely checked 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.280 with the stostrun and if they do check with the stostron, 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.560 they don't do anything about it, or they may tell 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.440 you they compare you to any eighty year old they 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.880 say your tystostrum is normal, and the fact is theystostrum 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.480 is very low because you want to always be compared 0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:48.319 to the younger person you could be. I don't want 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.279 to be compared to an older person. 0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:53.440 Right right, yeah, but yeah, and all these things kind 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:58.000 of factor and anyway, aging is certainly not optional. We're 0:47:58.000 --> 0:47:59.640 all aging, but you can slow it down and as 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.000 you get all of course, time is more precious than anything, 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.120 and if you can help yourself live a healthier, longer life, 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.759 then by all means you got to make some lifestyle change. 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.320 It's an adjustin pivot, but hell do it. Doctor Michael 0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.239 is ease the Ageless Revolution. He's an internest and regenitive 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.879 medicine specialist. And thanks again for joining the show this morning. 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:17.719 Appreciate it, Thank you so much for having me. 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:19.240 That's how it's slow aging. 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.480 But it's not going to stop you from eating that 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:24.160 half a pie and the refrigerator, you know how that is. 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.520 We've got news on the way in just a few minutes, 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.560 when a return Julie on the Job is here, we 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.560 will talk about AI and the interesting twist a icebar 0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:35.120 that entry level jobs aren't really entry level anymore because 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.279 of AI. What does that mean? What does that mean 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.839 for your career or maybe someone you love? Just ahead 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:45.520 here Sloany seven hundred helping you put the big P 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:51.520 in profession. Here's our career, Shirpa Julie bout. 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.240 Yes, sir Julie day off today. 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.840 She's got stuff going onspit a little busy and the 0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.919 show always goes on you're on the bus or under 0:48:59.920 --> 0:49:03.080 the In this case, AI is rewriting what entry level 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:04.759 means in the workfa nobody to get an entry level 0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.480 job and you'd start out learning, you know, from the 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:09.319 ground or built from the ground up. That's not true 0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.520 anymore because of AI. What's happening is companies are automating 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.560 those tasks that were previously done by entry level employees. 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.120 And so what that means is if a new graduate, 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.759 those employers expect you to have advanced skills on day one. 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.000 They're still learning curve anymore. Because the easy stuff they 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.160 got AI doing, you're gonna have to really jump into 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.800 the fray. Here joining the show is the co founder 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.120 and chief strategy officer at Kingsleygate. They are in a 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.480 global executive search room nook for CEOs and C suite 0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.480 members and his name is Umesh Rama Christian and joining 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:41.120 the show this morning. 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:41.480 How are you. 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.319 I'm good, Scott, Thanks for having me. 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.920 Yeah, bet, this is a game change. I don't think 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.279 enough people realize that we know about AI. All of 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.120 us use AI in some way, shape or form of 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.880 the course of our jobs and our workday makes things easier. 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.560 But we know, like when the computers came to play, 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.839 if you're a better around back then going oh, it's 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:00.799 gonna make your job so much it's easy. You're gonna 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.399 have all this time, and it doesn't you just get 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.680 more work piled on you. I think the same thing 0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.200 is true with any technology. AI is no different, but 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.960 this this one changes it because now you have to 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:14.520 come and almost now I wouldn't say an expert in 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.160 your field, but the bar has been been raised. 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.319 What are you going to see? How how do you 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:21.200 close that gap? 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:25.000 I guess then between college graduates and that new workforce. 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:29.760 Well, I don't even know if game change sums it up, Scott. 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:34.439 I think we are an existential moment here because if 0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.040 you know, you have I always had a social contract. 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:37.200 Right. 0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.320 You go to school, whether it's a four year degree 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.640 or a two year degree, you graduate and as a result, 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:44.480 you get a job and you work your way up 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.560 to middle management and hopefully the top management. But if 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.239 it is no bottom wrong at all, left, then what 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.719 do you do? Why would you even want to go 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.799 to school? Because you know we spend all the time 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.640 and money, so what really needs to happen now is 0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.920 actually most focused on the universities and colleges and schools 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.840 rather than the corporations. So you know, we've always taken 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:12.040 our seniors and found positions for them. That's the social 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.799 contract I spoke about, or if you're a junior or 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.560 a sophomore, you find internships for them. Well, now I 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.759 think you need to put the whole thing on its head. 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:25.279 You need to start placing freshmen in companies. And what 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.040 I mean by that is if the company itself can 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:33.680 help with the college education cost, then the four years 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.640 that the student spends there is focused on and ready 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.880 for the second tier inside the company, not the entry level, 0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:47.000 which means universities have to completely rethink their strategy. I 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.360 had two company presidents at my home this weekend and 0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.279 I floated this idea, and they said, that is a 0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:55.600 radical idea. That's the kind of stuff we should be doing, 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:59.120 because we don't do anything. These four kids, they're not 0:51:59.160 --> 0:51:59.759 going to have a job. 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.399 Is exactly what we've seen in the trade industry down 0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:06.120 at the other end in blue collar work, and that 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.480 is companies going, hey, we don't have a talent. What 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.160 we have to do is now they recruit them, pay 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.480 for their school. Essentially, you guarantee they're going to work 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:15.839 for us for a few years to kind of pay that. 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.799 But we will educate them, train them our way, and 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.520 we'll train that workforce. That's been going in the trades 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:22.480 for quite some time. It sounds like that's the way 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:23.560 colleges should be headed. 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.359 That's exactly the way it should be headed. And by 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.280 the way, companies have a vest of the interest because 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.959 it's the empty level positions that fill the middle level 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.400 positions three, four, five years down the road. If you 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.040 have nobody at the bottom rung, how are they going 0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.959 to fill those positions five years from now. So they 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:45.080 will have interest, they will fund this, but universities need 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.080 to take that first step. And by the way, high 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.520 schools will also be involved. Just imagine a high school 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:55.600 administrator he or she wants to face students in those 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.279 colleges that do this, and not colleges that are waiting 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.320 for four years to see if they can get the 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:01.040 kid a job or not. 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.680 As a result, then imsh are we going to see 0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:07.120 colleges refine their curriculum so to speak, because let's face it, 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:08.799 the first two years of college there's a lot of 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:12.040 filler or the idea of you're becoming more well round 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:15.360 the edge. You can't taking sociology classes and I'm taking 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.239 psychology and all these electives and things. 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.920 Is that going to go away? Is the knife, get sharpen. 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.440 Well, you know, tongue in cheek, Scott. I think drinking 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:26.239 beer in the first two years is going to be 0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:30.560 a past experience. I think what's going to need to 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.960 happen is these students have come out of high school. 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.360 Just like you pointed out what's been happening on the 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.719 blue collar side, they need to jump head in and 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:44.320 get experience of practical experience. We actually at company sites. 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:49.279 So yes, the curriculum needs to change, not little dramatically. 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.560 They have to in work the pyramid and start getting 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.279 practical experience on day one. 0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:58.240 Is that a lot to ask of an incoming college freshman, 0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.879 someone who maybe you know, seventy six teen, seventeen years 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:04.120 old in some cases that essentially they have to figure 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.600 out what they want to do four years later and 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.560 later in their life and honing that and going okay, well, 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.720 I've got to make a commitment when I go to college. 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.799 It's not about me figuring it out along the way 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.680 and maybe changing and my major subtly here and there. 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.440 I've got to commit to a company and an enterprise, 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:23.160 which I don't know. I have no idea if this 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:24.560 is what I want to do with my life. But 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.080 that's a major commitment that changes the whole college dynamic 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:28.520 as well. 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.880 This is what I meant by existential Scott. Nobody is 0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:35.640 ready for this. You know you mentioned this is another technology. 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.200 There's one massive difference with what we are calling technology here. 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:44.440 This technologic reason has logic and is intelligent enough to think. 0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:47.720 When you have something like that and you build agents 0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:51.080 that do that, thousands of them are going to be built. 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:54.879 The good news is the kids in high school are 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.320 already being exposed to this, So unlike you and I, 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.640 I think you're going to start seeing a mature level 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:03.520 in high school graduates, more than we've ever seen before. 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.239 But there is going to take some time. It's going 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.760 to be some lag between now and when we reached 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.200 that maturity. So yes, I think we're going to see 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:14.279 a blood bats, not just in entry level jobs, but 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.520 in children and kids making decisions about careers they're not 0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:19.279 quite ready for. 0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.680 Are we going to see then as a result of this, 0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:25.400 that colleges become more selective, that fewer young people go 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:27.719 to college because of what you're asking of them, That 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.600 we're getting rid of general education requirements. And I mean, 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.400 let's face it, if you're going to get an internship 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.200 as a freshman or sophomore at a big company let's 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.680 say Procter and Gamble here in Cincinnati. You don't have 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:40.239 any marketable skills that are useful to them. There's a 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.200 disconnect there. Are we just going to see colleges revert 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.600 back to the brightest of the bright who wind up 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.640 going there, as opposed to you know, trying to get 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:49.920 as many young people to go to college as possible. 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.200 Yeah, part of this redesign has to be evaluating what 0:55:54.320 --> 0:56:00.000 students mean, what students can do, what the university needs 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.600 to do in that particular company you mentioned Proctor and Gamble, 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.759 So if you're looking if Parker and Gamble is looking 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:07.799 for somebody to go enter the marketing function, then it 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:11.200 falls on the university to determine which student is best 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:14.840 suited for that. So Yes, as a result, Scott, I 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.080 think universities and companies are going to become far more 0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:21.400 selective and that is going to cause a construction in 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.400 the workforce. Again much any way you look at this 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:26.840 is going to be a massive problem. 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.480 Like like law school, for example, you know you will 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.520 go they'll go and actively recruit the brightest of the bride. 0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:33.279 Will we start saying that with high school students where 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.000 companies actually come in and go here's your you know, 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:39.799 your top ten students, or there's a particular you are. 0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.440 They're actually scouting high school students to work for them 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.439 and will pay for your college along the way. 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:45.160 Is that going to happen? 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:47.640 Well, Look, a lot of what you and I are 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.000 talking about is look into a crystal ball. Right. No, 0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:53.040 nobody is absolutely sure. But if you're asking me my opinion, 0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:56.080 I think that's exactly what's going to happen. Uh. 0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:59.479 He is Umesh Ramachra Shan. He is a co founder 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.200 chief strate at Kingslegate there and a global executive firm 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.720 CEO C suite people and talk about the massive change 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:10.440 here with AI coming along that entry level jobs largely 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:12.239 as we know them in the workforce. We're talking about 0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:16.080 white collar work predominantly are gonna go away because companies 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:19.360 are automating those tasks assigning to AI. Entry level employees 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.400 aren't doing the basic bottom level stuff. They have to 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.680 come in pretty hot. They're raising the bar for new 0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.480 graduates and they expect advanced skills on day one because 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.080 the menial tasks are being done by AI, you better 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.680 bring something in the table. This almost has to change 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.800 high school, and it certainly changes what college looks like. 0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.439 Where you're actually becoming an intern in a company your 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.360 freshman year and the classes you take on. It's more 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:43.480 specific to that occupation. The idea of figuring it out 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.240 as you go to college. It's been dead for a 0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:48.040 while because of the costs zumash, but it's more so 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:51.640 now because of the demand for your talent. So when 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.400 you say real entry level work starting freshman year, are 0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.480 you talking is that a paid internship unpaid injured co 0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:58.440 ops entirely? 0:57:58.640 --> 0:57:59.920 Is it something different? What does that look like? 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.000 Well, the way I see it, like I said, the 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.320 company has a vested interest in this, right, I mean, 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.960 they need to be filling these positions four or five 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.480 years down the road. So they want the best in 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.760 the brightest, and they want to train them in a 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.560 specific way. Proctor Gamble may want one thing, but Kroger 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.520 may want something else, and so the company, because of 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:25.120 that reason, should they It's not a significant amount, a 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:30.080 reasonable amount for that education. So I do believe they're. 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:31.920 Going to see that interesting. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.080 So from your executive search perspect are companies that eliminate 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.240 or over credential entry level of positions. Are they shooting 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:40.320 themselves in the foot long term by not developing their 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:41.880 own pipeline for talent? 0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.560 They absolutely are. You know, one of the things in 0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:47.920 our business is we talk to CEOs around the world 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.920 every day, and I can tell you I haven't spoken 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:55.200 to one CEO who's not concerned about this issue. And 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:58.320 you know, sort of kicking the can down the road, 0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:01.240 right because right now, there's no problem. Right now, earnings 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.440 are up, you're increasing productivity because you don't have anybody 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.560 to hire at the bottom end. But everybody knows that 0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:09.440 that's going to just cause a problem three to four 0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:10.280 years from now. 0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.960 Well, with AI taking over the you know, the low 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.600 level work, the road work that internships used to train for. 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.480 You know, wasn't that also valuable for teaching them how 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.360 to work in a workplace, you know, professional norms and 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.520 work ethic and attention to detail, organizational culture. That's where 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:26.520 you learn all that stuff and just to kind of 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.720 do menial tasks. If that goes away, what does that 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:31.000 do to that whole model? 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.720 Then I don't think it goes away, Scott. I think 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:37.200 actually it gets enhanced because if you're you know, we believe, 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.440 which I agree with you, if internship's helped in that regard, 0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:44.360 imagine if you're doing this almost full time through college. 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:48.360 You know, I envision a lot of these classes that 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:52.360 we held on campus, not the university campus, but corporate campus. 0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.720 So you know, these kids coming out of high school 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:57.640 are probably going to get exposed to things that you 0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:01.200 and I got exposed to maybe two three years graduating. Yeah, 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.640 so I think that internship model is going to get 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:09.720 expanded to a work study model in the not distant future. 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.160 Is it over for the liberal arts degree programs? 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:15.480 You know, it's funny you bring that. I don't think so. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:18.160 I don't know what to look like. But one of 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:22.280 the biggest things that students need to focus on is 1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:27.080 critical thinking, and liberal arts is probably the best area 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:32.160 in humanities in college where students developed that. How they 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:35.760 developed that to control AI, I think still remains to 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:36.120 be seen. 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:37.160 Interesting. 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:40.360 Yeah, Okay, if you look across global markets where you 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.680 place executives at your company omesh, are you seeing this 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.880 crisis across Is it just America's across all countries, industries 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:50.600 and sectors, or are there ones that are still having 1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:52.120 that traditional talent pipeline. 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:56.320 I don't know a single sector or a single geography 1:00:56.400 --> 1:01:00.000 whether this is not a crisis in the making. No, again, 1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:03.320 if you look at it today through today's lens, there 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:07.120 is no crisis. Companies actually enjoying that good profits because 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:09.800 you know you're hiring fewer people with productivity is out. 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:13.720 But anybody who's looking even through a lens of a 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:16.680 two to three year in the future, it's not just 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.840 a small crisis. Like I said, it's an existential one. 1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:22.240 So who's responsible for fixing this? 1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:25.160 You mentioned high school, you mentioned university's employers, at government, 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:27.840 they all got to work together. 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:29.480 I guess it's all of them. 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:32.120 It's all of them, But I think it starts at 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:35.320 the universities. I think universities need to see thisuly consider 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:38.000 this because for them it's a business problem too, right. 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:43.000 I mean, as soon as everybody's realizes that going to 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.840 a college for four years and spending a large amount 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.919 of money is not going to end in a job, 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:50.160 why would you want to go to college. You've got 1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:52.680 to change the budlem to attract the students, because we're 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:54.880 talking about the likelihoods them for the rest of your life. 1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:55.680 Boy. 1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:58.240 You know, I mentioned the areas that be responsible for this, 1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:00.840 and it strikes me as universities dig their heels and 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:04.000 resistance with everything in there might simply because it threatens 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:07.680 the traditional learning model, and anything that threatens the past 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:10.000 is a threat to the future. As a real concern 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:12.840 for the future, I think you're going to see colleges. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:15.880 There's probably ones that won't submit to this, and they'll 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:19.200 they'll probably perish at the because of those decisions. 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:23.800 Would you agree two things will be cause that for 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:28.320 them to either fear or arrogance. Fear because they don't 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:30.880 know what to do, or arrogance. They will not impact 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:34.920 us if they display either one of those two characteristics. Scott, 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:36.920 I think they're finished, all right. 1:02:36.960 --> 1:02:41.480 So let's pivot then to this outside of universities. High school. 1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:45.160 What about mom and dad? What about kid? You have 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.400 a younger child. Now, let's say, how are you preparing them. 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:53.360 For all this? That is probably the toughest job being 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.320 a parent of the toughest job to begin with, And 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.240 now is you've been told suddenly, let's say you have 1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:00.920 a kid in high school. You have this plan in 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:03.800 your head for the last you know, twelve fourteen, years. 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:06.240 You even have a fight twenty nine going and now 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.560 you have to deal with this. You know, this is 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:13.160 outside my laying in terms of parent counseling, Scott, but 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:16.760 having been gone through it with my son, who is 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:19.960 now fortunately in the work place already and therefore a 1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:23.120 little bit immune of this, I think that is the 1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:25.960 biggest challenge is for parents in terms of how to 1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:27.080 guide the children forward. 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.200 I have no idea how you'd on ramp down to 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:30.840 this and go, Okay, it's all going to change in 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:33.800 the next few years. And I don't know if that's 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:37.200 more core classes, more stamming, and depending what you want 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:39.760 to do, because now you're asking, hell, if you're a parent, listen, 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:41.080 this is going away a minute. You're telling me that 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:44.400 Now my you know, thirteen fourteen year old kid who 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:46.520 most days I got to scream at it because they're 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:49.760 missing the bus and you can't find their shoes in 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:51.880 the morning and everything, all of a sudden, they got 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:53.600 to decide what it does they want to do when 1:03:53.600 --> 1:03:55.840 they're my age, Like, that's a tough ask. 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:59.880 It is an incredibly tough ask. Imagine asking a six 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:03.920 We need all to stud making decisions inside of a corporation. 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:07.280 I mean, some of these guys don't know what through 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:09.840 have a lunch. Yeah, yeah, we've all been to that. 1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:13.320 So they're now making decisions. You know, this is not 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:14.960 going to be easy and there's going to be a 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:18.120 lot of upheaval. But it needs to start. I mean, 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.440 universities need to start planning to shift today. 1:04:22.120 --> 1:04:22.320 Yeah. 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:25.200 But in mass well we because we don't like change 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:28.040 at all. And certainly universities are you know, they're held 1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:30.800 in tradition and you have a legacy there, you have 1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:34.360 tenured professors, you have unions. I just don't see that 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:36.000 happening until it becomes a crisis. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:36.160 Now. 1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:38.160 Some might and pivot early and say, hey, listen, we 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:39.600 got to peel the bandit off and do this, but 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:41.920 I would suggest most wouldn't. 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.440 Well, we've seen this to history though, right God, I 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:47.640 mean we all those we did love the horse and 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.840 buggy and you could have stuck with that and then 1:04:51.000 --> 1:04:52.880 take you, you know, six days to get to New York. 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:58.680 So I think eventually people will see it. My fear 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.520 is that the strupture will happened before the realization. And 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:05.640 if that's the case, you know, all of us in 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:06.760 trouble all right. 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:09.160 He is the con founder and chief strategy officer at 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:12.080 Kingsley Gate. They're a global executive search firm. And it's 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:15.360 umesh Rama Krishnan in for Julie this morning on seven 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:16.240 hundred WLW. 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:18.240 Thanks again for joining. It was really informative. 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:20.680 Thank you, Scott. I enjoyed the conversation. 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:21.480 Yeah, appreciate it. 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:21.680 Man. 1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:23.760 That's a wake up call right there. College. 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:25.920 As you we know, college is in crisis right now 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:27.400 and it's been crossed for a while. But this is 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:32.600 an absolute mind blowing proposition. Pretty exciting actually. So now 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:34.440 you can go look at your fourteen fifty year on going, 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:36.280 oh my god, how are we going to do this? 1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:38.600 Good luck with that one. Let me get in this 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:41.840 update in and more to follow at Scott Sloan. I'll 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:44.320 talk to Michelle Schultz, trade attorney coming up about the 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:47.640 tariff refunds that may be coming due here depending what 1:05:47.680 --> 1:05:49.880 the Supreme Court does. And in light of the President's 1:05:49.880 --> 1:05:51.800 addressed tonight on all this and more, just add seven 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:53.160 hundred W O to Cincinnati. 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:58.400 Do you want to be an American? Seven hundred w WELW. 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:02.600 President is going to speak tonight at nine pm to 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:05.640 sell you on the economy, addressing what he calls the 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:09.640 affordability hoax and the promise he made on the trail 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:11.760 to reduce the cost of living from day one. As 1:06:11.760 --> 1:06:14.600 he said, we know that's not going very well for 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:17.120 the president. You know what, you know, you go to 1:06:17.160 --> 1:06:18.520 the store and you see the price of beef, You 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:20.440 see the price of many thing except gas. We're to 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:23.720 what four or five year low right now? Everything certainly 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:25.800 feels much higher. And you know that when you look 1:06:25.800 --> 1:06:27.720 at your checkbook, your savings account at the end of 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:31.600 the month. Of course, adding to inflation would be the tariffs, 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.720 and the President's going to talk about that tonight. And 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:36.680 on it is trade attorney Michelle Schultz again on the 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:37.400 Scott's Loan Show. 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:38.520 Michelle, how are you good morning? 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:41.240 I have been busy. 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.400 I bet yes. 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:46.760 It's all tariffs, all the time, lots of change. 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:48.400 Yeah, I'm sure the President is going to address a 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:50.960 lot of that tonight. And so we know the tarffs 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:53.200 brought in like close to a quarter trillion dollars so 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:57.080 far this calendar year. But companies like Costco and Bumblebee, 1:06:57.080 --> 1:06:59.919 the tuna company Revlon, the makeup company ray Ban Sun 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:02.840 last as many others are getting in line because the 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.840 first person in line gets paid first. In the lawsuits 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:07.640 to lock down the billions of dollars they might be 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:11.200 out if the Supreme Court rules against President Truft's tariffs, 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:13.480 to begin with, So let's start there the likelihood that 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:14.160 that's going to happen. 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:15.120 What do you see the tea. 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:20.080 Leaves Well, I'd say fifty to fifty. You know, in 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:22.440 the beginning, I thought it was pretty likely that the 1:07:22.480 --> 1:07:26.320 Supreme Court would strike down the tariffs because they expressed 1:07:26.320 --> 1:07:32.720 so much skepticism during the initial hearings. But the more 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:37.360 I read, the more I follow the government's reactions, I'm 1:07:37.400 --> 1:07:41.600 thinking it's possible it could go either way. So companies 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:45.960 like Costco, Revlon and the big guys have gone in 1:07:46.080 --> 1:07:50.680 and they have petition for Customs to essentially be forced 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:56.760 to delay its final computations so that refunds would be quicker. 1:07:57.600 --> 1:08:02.880 And we're due for the final liquidation of entries as 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:07.760 of Monday, so it's been kind of a race to 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:10.600 get to the front of the line. Who can get 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:12.680 to the front of the line and who can get 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:20.479 paid first. If we could keep Customs from finalizing its calculations, Unfortunately, Monday, 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:25.639 the Court of International Trade denied a consolidated motion for 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:30.920 this very thing. So it looks like, yeah. 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.320 Like one hundred and thirty billion dollars, I mean so 1:08:33.360 --> 1:08:35.479 far that number is growing. Is what the refund would 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:38.519 be got. And the thing is the preemptive lawsuits coming 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:42.120 in to be paid as being liquidated by the government. 1:08:42.200 --> 1:08:45.040 The Supreme Court rules against the TERRAF after liquidation occurs, 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:47.719 doesn't that create kind of a legal black hole where 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:51.799 companies can't get refunds even though they paid on constitutional tariffs. 1:08:51.840 --> 1:08:52.720 How would that shake out? 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:58.360 That would be in my mind, it would be administratively 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.760 a mess. And I think that's what the DOJ was 1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:06.920 concerned about when they last week they mentioned that, hey, 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:11.160 we've already been collecting about one hundred and thirty billion 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:16.080 in tariffs. I think if all that has to be refunded, 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:19.320 then it does have to be refunded, and there will 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:25.480 be a mechanism for refunds, such as protesting the liquidation 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:31.000 of customs entries. The problem is the time we're going 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:33.080 to have to go through a long process to get 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:34.160 that money back. 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:38.040 Yeah, and where does the money actually come from if 1:09:38.080 --> 1:09:40.559 it's already been spent. I mean, I you know, he 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:42.200 has a list of I think there's like seven or 1:09:42.200 --> 1:09:43.960 eight things on there. What he's going to do with 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:47.200 this money coming in from tariffs, including two thousand dollars 1:09:47.280 --> 1:09:50.680 checks or taxpayers. All well and good, but if you 1:09:50.760 --> 1:09:53.000 cut those checks, there's no getting it back. Where if 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:54.400 you spend some of that money, where's it going to 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:54.880 come from? 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:58.360 Yeah, that's a great question. 1:09:58.640 --> 1:09:59.680 I don't know. 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:05.320 I think it would have to come from through customs 1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:07.800 and border protection, but I don't know what funds they'd 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:12.280 pull it from. If the money's already been spent. It's 1:10:13.000 --> 1:10:15.240 it's been It's long been the case that customs have 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:18.960 to provide refunds if someone overpaid. But wow, this is 1:10:19.000 --> 1:10:24.320 on a grand scale. We're talking about billions and thousands 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:31.680 of companies. So I think it's legally the refunds will 1:10:31.680 --> 1:10:35.519 be required, but it will be a process, and in 1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:39.400 my experience requesting refunds, it's going to take. 1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:39.920 A long time. 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:42.200 Yeah, and we'll probably hear more of this tonight when 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:44.360 the President speaks at nine o'clock. But Trump promised to 1:10:44.400 --> 1:10:46.960 use the tariff revenue for as I had to look 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:49.760 it up. Yeah, eight different purposes with the checks. There's 1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:52.920 tax cuts, there's paying down debt, there's eliminating m TIMP 1:10:52.960 --> 1:10:54.680 taxes in some groups. 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:56.519 And the list goes on and on and on. 1:10:57.160 --> 1:10:59.680 But you know, I don't know, I does Congress have 1:10:59.760 --> 1:11:02.280 to a created like any other revenue or does he 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:04.400 just start cutting checks himself. I mean, that's the other 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:07.519 question is how much authority has an executive branch versus 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:11.320 congressional park Congress. Congress, as we know under Republican control, 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:13.400 really doesn't want to do anything. They're happy with him 1:11:13.439 --> 1:11:17.200 doing whatever he wants and doing very little as representatives 1:11:17.240 --> 1:11:22.560 and senators. I wonder what happens in that regard exactly. 1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:29.400 Yes, and under the constitution, Congress is the branch that 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:33.600 has authority over taxes and terrifts. Tariffs are attacked and 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:36.640 they're a tax on the US importer, So you know, 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:39.160 you'd think that Congress would have to weigh in on 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:43.400 this at some point if refunds are required. It's going 1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:46.840 to be a combination, I think, of the executive branch 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:51.719 and then Congress, which as you mentioned, is just going 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:56.640 to probably support the executive bridge decisions, and then Customs. 1:11:56.840 --> 1:11:59.360 So Customs is going to be swimming in paperwork. 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:03.799 I think yeah, doesn't mean for a smooth system. Michelle 1:12:03.800 --> 1:12:06.679 Schultz on the shift, trade attorney, expert in the area 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:08.920 of tariffs and the like, and I'm sure your phone's 1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:10.680 been ringing off the hook with all this stuff going 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:14.240 on from your clients. Tonight, the President is going to 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:16.560 talk at nine o'clock to sell us on the economy 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:19.160 and the affordability hoax, as he calls it. I don't know, 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:21.280 you go to the store, stuffs more expensive. I don't 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:23.839 know how that's a hoax. You know more than anyone 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:26.679 your personal finances. If you're doing fine and you're above 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:28.640 water and have all extra dispense, it's probably not that 1:12:28.680 --> 1:12:31.200 big a deal. But of course you get closer and 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:34.200 closer to the poverty line, or you just simply make 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:37.439 less money your middle class or lower. You know that 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:41.960 it's really expensive out there, say maybe energy and gasoline 1:12:42.040 --> 1:12:44.280 right now. So he's gonna try and sell us on 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:46.600 that tonight. It should be interesting what he says. And 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:49.719 of course the other area of this thing is, Michelle, 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:51.840 you know this better than anybody. Are the terroriffs actually 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:54.640 working in a sense, because I mean, China just surpassed 1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:57.759 a one trillion dollar trade surplus, which means they export 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:00.679 more than they import. If they export more than import 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:03.360 and that number is going up, that would indicate, at 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:06.000 least relative to China, the tariffs are not working. 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:11.880 Right right, Yes, relative to China, we can see that 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:15.799 the tariffs really aren't having the intended effect. China's actually 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:19.759 doing more business with other countries and they have found 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:23.439 that it's easier to what they called dump or sell 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:28.439 products below market to other countries rather than dealing with 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:31.439 US at this point. So you know, yeah, I think 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:36.400 the tariffs have resulted in difficulty for US importers, and 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.839 at the same time, China seems to be fine. 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:41.920 Yeah, it doesn't have the endent. 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:44.160 I mean, there's other countries out there that are squeezing, 1:13:44.200 --> 1:13:45.920 for sure, But I mean this was all set to 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:48.760 leverage China, and China's going, okay, we'll fine, We'll just 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:51.719 go We'll just expand market share elsewhere and forget about 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:53.840 you guys. But then, you know, if tariffs go away 1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:57.360 or we get the balance back, are those stations going 1:13:57.400 --> 1:13:58.720 to all of a sudden go hey, you know what, 1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:01.360 we are just going to go back to good old 1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:03.840 Maide In the USA, goods, you know, outside of maybe 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:06.000 some core products. I don't see that happening because once 1:14:06.040 --> 1:14:09.280 you change change vendors, so to speak, it's difficult to 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:10.519 get that business back, isn't it. 1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:15.080 Oh, Yes, very difficult. And I think there is a 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:19.280 lot of sentiments regarding America that we're not reliable right now. 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:23.600 So I'm hearing that from the EU, from South America, 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:30.720 from everywhere. And you'll see China is currently very successful 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:36.200 in India, Brazil, Africa, you can look anywhere and they're 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:40.519 doing well because they're playing the game right. I think 1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:45.120 that we are at a disadvantage at this point. Companies 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:49.320 don't necessarily trust us because we may or may not 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:54.720 go through with a transaction, or we may request christ changes. 1:14:55.320 --> 1:15:00.000 And even if we do buy something at the regular price, 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:04.040 than the US company is losing profitability because they have 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:08.720 to either increase their price to match the teriffs and 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:13.639 which are up to fifty percent or more, or they 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:14.840 have to just do something else. 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:18.040 Yeah, And I think Michelle on the terriff issue, I 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:21.240 think there's a credibility problem here for Trump administration and 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:24.759 Republicans in a sense, because you know, the cry against 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:26.559 the Affordable Care Act which is true. You know, we 1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:29.160 subsidize things in this country to the extreme, and it 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:32.200 doesn't do anything to reduce and drive down the actual 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:35.879 cost of things. It's just simply a coupon. It's a voucher, 1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:37.679 is what it is. To make it look to you 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:40.320 and your family like, hey, healthcare is affordable, it's not. 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:42.719 It's it's out of control of the government's just taking 1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:44.559 money from a different pile and giving it to you 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:46.800 to shut you the hell up so you can afford 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:49.720 your healthcare insurance. And that is a legitimate bee for 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.320 publicans have habit. It's one hundred percent accurate. However, when 1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:54.599 you now have twice done that for farmers and bailed 1:15:54.640 --> 1:15:57.040 them out because in this case, because of teriffs where 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.519 Ohio farmers lost about seventy six million dollars in exports 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:04.200 to China, well overall the trade is down like seventeen billions. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:06.840 So the long story is we're bailing out farmers with 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:11.000 twelve billion dollars. Unfortunately it's dwarfed by the seventeen billion 1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:14.679 dollar loss in China trade to China loan. So we're 1:16:14.800 --> 1:16:17.960 essentially subsidying farmers for the tariffs. That doesn't make any 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:19.479 sense at all. 1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:22.800 Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And we're still seeing with 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:28.360 our clients that farmers are they have stop, they can't sell, 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:33.920 they're jumping products, and even agricultural equipment is taking a 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:37.840 huge hit because they can't afford to buy the new stuff. 1:16:37.880 --> 1:16:41.360 They're going to use their own equipment. It's really still 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:46.800 impacting farmers and agriculture, you know, down to the individual 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:50.200 and I think sending them a check for a couple 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.880 thousand dollars is not really helpful. 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.879 No, no, no, you know it's again it's more subsidy. 1:16:56.560 --> 1:16:59.040 And on that too, farmers in the particular Ohio farmers. 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:01.080 Basically there's a double whim there. There's higher cost from 1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:04.439 the import taxes and lost export revenue from retaliation from 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:07.920 countries like China. So, from a trade law perspective, Michelle 1:17:07.920 --> 1:17:10.719 schultz Weer, you're an expert in is the predictable outcome 1:17:10.760 --> 1:17:14.120 of the policy something the administration's legally required to consider 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:18.240 before imposing those tariffs or other statues that can just 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:21.599 impose it without any economic impact analysis whatsoever. 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:23.440 It feels like the ladder's true. 1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:29.040 Yeah, I believe the ladder's true. Unfortunately, because so the 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:33.599 tariffs that are the baseline tariffs. The reciprocal tariffs, those 1:17:33.600 --> 1:17:36.320 are the tariffs that are on virtually every country, and 1:17:36.360 --> 1:17:40.680 those were implemented under an emergency statue, as if a 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:44.160 trade deficit or an emergency. So let's say the court 1:17:44.240 --> 1:17:48.560 holds up those tariffs, they still have plenty of options 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:52.920 for the US government to impose tariffs under other statutes 1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:59.880 like aluminium and steel, which are under a National Security statute. 1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:03.800 There's another statue that covers unfair trade practices, and none 1:18:03.880 --> 1:18:07.760 of this, None of these statutes really ask what's the 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:11.840 impact on the importer in the United States state, They're 1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:13.480 more focused on policy. 1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:17.919 So the big picture of the takeaway here is American 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:20.639 farmers are suffering because of those massive losses we talked. 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:24.200 Big companies are lining up to sue for refunds, and 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:29.360 the government collected almost a quarter trillion dollars but promised 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:31.040 to spend it in eight different ways. So if you're 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:35.000 advising someone whose business is import export and you have 1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:37.080 a global market here, what do you tell how are 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.160 you tell them to navigate this chaos right now? And 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:41.680 do you think we'll ever have clarity in the next 1:18:41.760 --> 1:18:43.839 few months on the legality of all this stuff. 1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:47.760 I think we will have clarity. So that's the light 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:51.280 at the end of the tunnel. I'm hearing maybe beginning 1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:54.840 of twenty twenty six. Some folks have been saying before 1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:56.880 the end of twenty twenty five. I don't know that 1:18:56.960 --> 1:19:00.160 we'll have that much clarity then, and I don't think 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:03.080 that all the tariffs will be cleared up. Many of 1:19:03.080 --> 1:19:05.800 them are going to continue, and there's not much of 1:19:05.840 --> 1:19:09.800 a path forward for the importer. So what we're doing 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:13.320 is some importers will want to get in line, they 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:15.680 want to sue. On the other hand, the Court of 1:19:15.720 --> 1:19:21.240 International Trade is not willing to bind customs as far 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:26.439 as its final calculations. They've denied a consolidated motion on 1:19:26.520 --> 1:19:33.000 Monday about by importers, So I think, you know, as 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:36.560 as it drags out, we continue to look at technicality. 1:19:37.080 --> 1:19:40.840 We've had importers that have been overpaying because they've been 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:47.360 overvaluing their goods, and we follow the customs regulations very 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:52.120 closely to determine if you're overvaluing, if you're paying a 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:56.559 percent onto high a value, or maybe you're paying on 1:19:56.880 --> 1:20:00.479 the wrong country of origins or the wrong yeah good. 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:02.479 I don't know how you sort all this stuff out. 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:04.559 I'll be honest, my head would explode her. How's your 1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:05.440 head not exploding? 1:20:06.160 --> 1:20:06.880 It is good? 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:09.400 Okay, okay, good good. I just couldn't hear it for more. 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:11.879 Your Thank god you're in the phone, not in the studio. 1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:16.040 Are cleaning people are are overworked already. She has Michelle 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.599 Schall's trade attorney on the show. I always love having 1:20:18.600 --> 1:20:21.760 you on, Michelle, because you're you just simply cut right 1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:23.840 through it to help us figure out something complex is 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:25.840 tariffs and what it all means. And if you don't 1:20:25.880 --> 1:20:27.720 know what it means, it should scare the hell out 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:29.040 of the rest of us, that's for sure. You have 1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:30.800 a great day. Thanks again for coming on the show. 1:20:31.840 --> 1:20:33.320 You too, Thank you so much. 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:37.400 Happy holiday, Yeahpy holdays Mary Christmas. Yeah. So it's a 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:41.360 damnist party in power right tonight. 1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:44.920 The Republicans are today, actually I should say, they're gonna 1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:50.800 not vote for and include subsidies to continue the Obamacare 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:52.000 for another couple of years. 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:53.400 However, it is till they sort this out. 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:55.559 And so yeah, you may feel like the rug's being 1:20:55.560 --> 1:20:56.960 pulled out under if you're one of the twenty two 1:20:56.960 --> 1:20:59.080 million Americans on it okay, good, because we don't want 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:03.880 subcy Amen, subsidy is it's it's stupid. Then tonight at nine, 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:06.519 President Trump will tell you why subsidies are good when 1:21:06.560 --> 1:21:08.799 it comes to farmers and everything else. And two thousand 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:12.439 dollars checks to Americans, isn't that subsidy? The answer would 1:21:12.439 --> 1:21:17.160 be yes, yes, it would be leadership. Where is it? 1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:20.720 I don't I don't see it. I don't see it 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:22.160 on the left, I don't see it on the right. 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.360 I just don't see it. News on the way minutes 1:21:24.360 --> 1:21:25.439 here seven hundred w. 1:21:31.960 --> 1:21:32.280 DC. 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:45.040 Well, let's probably a little bit of displaying go on. 1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:46.000 I'm not quite sure. 1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:51.440 I thought Seg Dennison on the staff here at iHeart Cincinnati, 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.160 was the most afraid of winter weather. And I have 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:56.760 to apologize to my friend Seg because I was wrong 1:21:56.800 --> 1:22:00.120 about that. Sarah Lees is uh doing this from from 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:03.000 her home instead of coming in STUDI because she's afraid 1:22:03.360 --> 1:22:05.519 of the snow that has since melted on the roadways 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:08.080 and will not drive on roads it could possibly be 1:22:08.280 --> 1:22:11.080 icy at this time. I've never seen anyone afraid Sarah 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:14.360 release of salt stained dry pavement. I understand when it's 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:17.439 slippery up maybe, but the roads are fine. Why are 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:18.040 you at home? 1:22:18.920 --> 1:22:21.799 Well, if the Bengals would have cleared off their seats, 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:24.080 we wouldn't have all the snow. 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:27.160 Melting onto the banks and causing having. 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.680 Got it gets back to the Bengal the Bengals. 1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:34.400 Yeah, the snow melts from the uncleared seats, goes down 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:36.680 down to the bottels of paycorps out, goes into the 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:40.400 gutters and streets and flood Cincinnati with the tears of incompetence. 1:22:41.200 --> 1:22:43.640 Yeah, I live a half mile away from downtown and 1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:46.599 I'm in a flood right now. So that's why I'm 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:47.680 working from home this week. 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:49.360 Gotcha, gotcha, You're floating away here. 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:52.200 So it is a snort report this morning, Sarah Elise, 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:54.800 I don't know if we've We don't often snort over 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:57.040 the phone, but you may have to snort louder in 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:58.240 order for it to come through. 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:01.479 I think, you know what, there is a lot to 1:23:01.600 --> 1:23:05.120 snort about because things are so bad that you just 1:23:05.200 --> 1:23:09.160 have to keep laughing to like not go absolutely insane. 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:14.759 Over All of the Bengals drama is wanting after another 1:23:14.960 --> 1:23:19.679 really is. And now you've got previous Bengals players calling 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:24.320 out the league on social media. This comment is definitely 1:23:24.360 --> 1:23:25.719 trending on social media. 1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:27.479 Zach Moss. 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.759 He's telling people on Twitter that the Bengals are easily 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:35.040 the worst franchise in sports. 1:23:35.960 --> 1:23:37.600 Blooney, we got problems. 1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:39.080 We don't have problems. 1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:44.800 What we have is what we have is consistency. What 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:49.280 has changed in the last I don't know, thirty years. 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:53.599 It's the same cries about incompetent, mismanagement, penny pinching, being 1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:57.679 tone deaf, not being responsive to the fan base. Nothing's changed, 1:23:57.680 --> 1:24:00.280 doesn't the fact that we just last week gave two 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:02.640 hundred and twelve billion dollars at the stadium. 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:07.679 Yeah, the big the Browns family, they're doing completely, They're. 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:10.200 Totally zero, zero poops given. 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:14.800 Jason Williams with the inquir he has this awesome article out. 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:17.240 First of all, you got to read Jason Williams articles. 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:23.800 He has no filter, and he put this article out, 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:26.880 I believe this morning or late last night about how 1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:30.840 the Bengals ownership does not care about what any of 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.639 us have to say. They see your comments on Twitter, 1:24:33.640 --> 1:24:37.360 on Facebook, on Instagram, TikTok, and they're just gonna keep 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:38.479 doing what they're doing. 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:43.320 I mean, how can things change? Sloany just stop showing up. 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:44.080 Well. 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:46.120 And the idea is, if we're you know, we're calling 1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:49.640 for We're calling for Zach Taylor, We're calling for the 1:24:49.800 --> 1:24:53.719 ahead of Duke Tobin. H it doesn't it doesn't matter, 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:56.559 It doesn't matter who that it's above the head coach. 1:24:56.600 --> 1:24:57.880 Maybe there's something with Duke Tobin. 1:24:57.960 --> 1:25:00.519 But I would go, Okay, but is it because he 1:25:00.600 --> 1:25:03.360 doesn't have enough support, he doesn't have enough people around 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.840 him to help. He's doing too much by himself because 1:25:05.840 --> 1:25:08.799 it's a woefully understaffed front office when it comes to scouting, 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:12.240 on all the things that ensure you're gonna get good 1:25:12.280 --> 1:25:15.360 players or great players here in Cincinnati's opposed to a crapshoot. 1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:19.040 I would say, does it really matter if it's Bill Belichick? 1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:21.400 Does it matter if it's Bill Kauer? Does it matter 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.200 who it is as the head coach. I would contend, 1:25:24.240 --> 1:25:26.000 it's the system in which that coach is thrust it. 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:28.000 I mean, when he's got to answer the questions about 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:32.120 snow removal, because no one in that front office. 1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:33.519 Will speak except for Zach Taylor. 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:36.479 If I you know, being a fan of the team, 1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:40.200 I'm looking at going, well, there's no communications, so they 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:41.040 don't actually care. 1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:43.639 They're in pervious to criticism. It doesn't matter. 1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:47.400 Well, you just kind of take Marty Brennanan's advice. He 1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:50.240 was on with Tom Brennanan on Monday morning and he goes, look, 1:25:50.280 --> 1:25:57.920 I've got one piece of advice for Bengals fans. He says, snowblowers, 1:25:58.000 --> 1:25:58.880 next time. 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.200 Bringing your own shovel to pay Course Stadium. 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:05.680 That's h Look, I can't even get in with my 1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:09.439 little four by Fyclear bags, but I'll try to bring 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:10.360 it so blowing. 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:12.800 And then like the ticket things were malfunctioning. It took 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:14.639 people an outward to get in, so they missed most 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:16.240 of the first quarter at least. 1:26:16.240 --> 1:26:17.559 It just it's just one. 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:21.000 It's just one travesty and injustice staff together for the 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:23.280 long suffering Bengal fans. And you know, if you're a 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:26.519 season ticket older season tickelolders are not happy. The ones 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:28.959 I talked to are not happy at all because renewals 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:29.360 are coming. 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:32.280 They're like, hell no, and they shouldn't be. 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:34.880 And this is when the sales staff are making their 1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:36.840 calls and they're saying, hey, what are we doing about 1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:38.760 twenty twenty six And it's like well, what are you 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:40.639 doing about twenty twenty six? 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:41.120 Right? 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:44.519 But I guess what had happened. Two of the gates 1:26:44.520 --> 1:26:47.960 were down for whatever reason. There are rumors out there 1:26:48.000 --> 1:26:50.760 saying that some of the staff couldn't make it in 1:26:51.040 --> 1:26:53.240 because the roads were so bad. 1:26:53.160 --> 1:26:54.400 But I don't know. 1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:56.200 All of the fans seem to make it in and 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:56.679 they were. 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:57.559 Just standing there. 1:26:57.400 --> 1:27:01.200 For the entire staff, not freezing that they missed anything. 1:27:01.240 --> 1:27:03.800 I mean, the Bengals couldn't do anything in that game, 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:06.360 which was really disappointing after what we had seen on 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:09.559 Things Giving night, after that really exciting win. 1:27:09.640 --> 1:27:10.680 I just had higher. 1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:14.800 Expectations for him, and especially with Joe Burrow. So now 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:17.360 Joe Burrow is getting heckled. I don't know if you 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:20.400 saw that. That's trending on social media too. There was 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:22.800 an angry fan that was sitting in the front row 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:26.439 of that game on Sunday decided to take off his 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:30.479 Joe Burrow Jersey rose it onto the field and he's 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:33.880 hackling home and it was so bad that Jamar Chase 1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:36.120 had to get into his face a little bit, like, hey, 1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:37.519 go home then if you don't want to be here, 1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:39.400 if you don't like it, go home and you know 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:41.040 throughout a bunch of f bombs. 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:42.519 Right, which is which is a great look for the team. 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:44.640 You don't like the bad product on the field and 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:46.960 then get the hell out of here. That's just I mean, 1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:49.640 I get he's defending his guy, but that just is 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:51.760 another bad look for a team that is full of 1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:56.120 bad looks at the fans. 1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:59.160 Right, you don't you don't do that. You have a 1:27:59.200 --> 1:27:59.880 reason to be upset. 1:28:00.479 --> 1:28:00.799 Money. 1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:04.160 Yeah, they're spending the money on the tickets and the jerseys, 1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:06.479 and they stumbled their way out of their homes to 1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:08.479 get there on Sunday and to sit in the five 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:11.639 degree stempts and watch a four and ten team. I mean, 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:14.599 it's just it did not get worse right now. And 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.800 Dak Taylor on Monday said, look, I know that this 1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:21.800 is the record and we're out of it three years 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:24.479 in a row with no playoffs, but Joe Burrow is 1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:25.360 still going to play. 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:26.840 So what do you think of that? 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:28.759 It's like, do we need to keep playing Joe Burrow 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:30.000 for the final three games? 1:28:30.080 --> 1:28:31.559 It's his job. You're going to tell him know if 1:28:31.560 --> 1:28:33.560 he's healthy. 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:36.360 I think you cannot tell Joe Burrow no to anything. 1:28:36.560 --> 1:28:39.120 I mean He's probably just happy to be back after 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.720 that toe injury. This was just supposed to be his 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:43.599 game that he was coming back this weekend too in 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:46.920 Miami when he had gotten hurt back in September. They 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:49.000 said Miami would be his first game back. 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:50.519 But obviously it doesn't matter. It's over. 1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:53.240 It doesn't matter it's over yet again, So three straight 1:28:53.280 --> 1:28:56.680 seasons no playoffs to the Bengals who appeared there. And 1:28:56.760 --> 1:29:00.080 now you look at that playoff run and against the 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:01.720 Rams in the super Bowl, and you know, blink of 1:29:01.760 --> 1:29:03.439 an eye could have went the other way. Bengals were 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:05.880 on the verge of winning that game going down to 1:29:05.920 --> 1:29:06.559 the last play. 1:29:07.000 --> 1:29:08.479 But again, but it doesn't matter. 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:11.920 The Super Bowl was like twenty years ago at this point. Yeah, 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:13.120 I mean, you know, it doesn't matter. 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:15.000 If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle. 1:29:15.040 --> 1:29:24.280 I get it out of your mind. And so I 1:29:24.320 --> 1:29:26.120 look at this whole thing. I just don't think it's 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:29.120 gonna get any better. There's no hope whatsoever for the Bengals. 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:31.800 That was an aberration. Making it to the playoffs. Goes 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:33.880 to show you the parody of the NFL that even 1:29:34.000 --> 1:29:36.479 bad teams and bad franchises have a chance of making 1:29:36.560 --> 1:29:38.679 it to the super Bowl. It's not like we're building 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:41.040 a dynasty here in Cincinnati. It's going in the other 1:29:41.080 --> 1:29:43.960 direction at this point. And for all intents and purposes, 1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:46.160 if I'm a fan of this team, which I am, 1:29:46.600 --> 1:29:51.000 the silence from the family from ownership is definite. They 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:53.840 often don't communicate. They aren't now they're saying, Hey, we're 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:56.400 sticking with Zach, We're sticking with Duke Tobin. We're gonna 1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:58.599 Most teams would have let him go and made changes 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:01.000 after the loss last week. Not this club. They're going 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:02.160 to double down on stupid. 1:30:03.080 --> 1:30:03.320 Yeah. 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:07.640 The lack of communication is very loud and according to 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.719 speaking of Zach Taylor and his extension, according to Paul 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:15.040 Dayner Junior of The Athletic he said that Zach Taylor 1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:17.760 is under contract for the next two seasons. 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:18.160 Yep. 1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:20.240 He says that the Bengals signed him to a second 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:23.519 five year extension after their runs the AFT Championship game 1:30:23.560 --> 1:30:26.120 back in twenty twenty two. And he says, but the 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:31.840 Bengals never announced that second extension, which is why nobody 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:34.440 knows about it. So Paul Dayner Junior. 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:36.679 Just calling them out. 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:39.600 I love how everybody's just calling it all out just 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:41.040 aaron the grievances. 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:44.000 Yeah, well, the hope is left. 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:46.519 I just wonder next season they're trying to sell season 1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:48.920 tickets to get people hyped for twenty twenty six. We'll 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:51.320 have a healthy Joe Burrow. They didn't do anything in 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:53.920 free agency. We'll see what happens in the offseason here. 1:30:54.080 --> 1:30:56.919 Their draft picks have missed on most of them defensively speaking, 1:30:58.040 --> 1:30:59.200 I just wonder what help. 1:30:59.240 --> 1:30:59.960 We've got a draft? 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:01.599 Yeah, yeah, because they're so good. 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:04.600 If everything stays the same, How many empty seats so 1:31:04.720 --> 1:31:06.000 you see next year at pay Corps. 1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:11.559 I'd imagine that in the jumps. Are you sure are lots. 1:31:11.400 --> 1:31:12.640 Of bags overheads? 1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:13.320 It ain't good? 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:15.880 And we want to happy Joe Burrow. I mean he 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:17.599 said last week, he goes, If I'm going to keep 1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:21.720 doing this, I want to have fun doing it. I 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:23.880 don't think Joe Burrow is having any fun right now. 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:26.040 There's no way you can have fun. 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:27.840 There's no way you could be having fun watching this 1:31:27.960 --> 1:31:30.400 fall apart during the Guys Prime. How you can't make 1:31:30.439 --> 1:31:34.400 the playoffs with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and t Higgins 1:31:34.520 --> 1:31:37.320 is in Chase Brown for that matter, is beyond explanation. 1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:39.559 When you have that powerful offense, you know how bad 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:42.160 you got to suck on defense to miss the playoffs. 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:45.040 You got to get a whole new defense. 1:31:45.040 --> 1:31:48.320 Awful, awful, It's just awesome. To multi year project. 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:48.519 I know. 1:31:48.640 --> 1:31:50.080 Dan said, well, you may be able to fix this 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:53.559 to the off season, not not as disinterested they are 1:31:53.600 --> 1:31:55.680 and keep getting talented the same thing. 1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:58.880 There's no hope. There's no hope. By the way, do 1:31:58.880 --> 1:31:59.640 you know what today is? 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:00.360 The Sarah? 1:32:00.400 --> 1:32:03.840 Do you know what today marks? Where were you so 1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:04.760 thirty years ago? 1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:07.240 Nine days until opening Day? 1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:10.080 Hold on a second here, I have one more football 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:11.960 related thing to get to before we get into this. 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:14.800 Do you know what Okay, thirty years ago today, you 1:32:14.840 --> 1:32:16.719 were where you were a senior in college? 1:32:16.760 --> 1:32:21.639 Right, Wait on a second. Thirty years ago. 1:32:21.880 --> 1:32:25.559 Oh, I was at Fairfield South Elementary. That's where I 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:26.760 was thirty years ago. 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:30.480 All right, thirty years ago on this date, the Browns 1:32:30.760 --> 1:32:34.080 played their last game in the state of Ohio and 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:36.880 moved to Baltimore thirty years ago today. 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:37.479 How about that? 1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:39.120 Interesting? 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:40.560 Yeah, they became. 1:32:40.360 --> 1:32:42.760 The Baltimore Ravens, and then Cleveland got a team and 1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:45.160 well they probably just should have stayed away based on 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:48.120 how they played since then up up in Cleveland today 1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:50.679 thirty years and they played the Bengals in the final 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:51.200 home game. 1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:54.559 Fun fuck you on that day. 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:56.320 Thirty years ago. I think it was still I was 1:32:56.320 --> 1:32:56.839 in school. 1:32:58.200 --> 1:33:02.000 Really yeah, it was. Aren't you closed to retirement or 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:02.639 what's going on? 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:07.200 Do you want me to retire? No, because I like 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:08.920 doing this day with you don't know, I don't know 1:33:08.920 --> 1:33:11.080 about that. Maybe you know what. This is the last one. 1:33:11.080 --> 1:33:13.120 I think I'm done. 1:33:11.800 --> 1:33:16.760 I'm well, actually this is our last snort report of 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:20.160 the year. It won't be back until what January whatever? 1:33:20.200 --> 1:33:21.240 That is get me some. 1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:23.640 Hope when it comes to sports snort lips. 1:33:23.920 --> 1:33:27.640 Yeah, we got in ninety nine days until opening. 1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:29.120 I got it. 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:33.760 Versus Circle and February twenty first it was announced that's 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:38.320 gonna be the first spring training game and Sunny Arizona 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:42.120 of course happening right there in Goodyear against the Guardians. 1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:45.360 Sunthing bone Tyl. 1:33:45.360 --> 1:33:47.080 The Red's looking for next season. 1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:50.120 Tw we're looking. You know what, if you just never 1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:52.479 know what you're gonna get. Everything is always a surprise 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:55.040 with all of these teams. The other day they did 1:33:55.080 --> 1:33:58.320 announce their twenty twenty six Hall of Fame in Depth Pies. 1:33:58.920 --> 1:34:00.120 One of my favorite players. 1:33:59.880 --> 1:34:00.839 Of all time. Brandon. 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:05.160 Oh yeah, that dude, Panela and Reggie Sanders so good 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:05.760 line up there. 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:08.240 Yeah, I love Brandon Phillips is hysterical. 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:12.840 Brandon Phillips is the player that really got me to 1:34:13.680 --> 1:34:15.920 love the Reds. I mean, I was in high school 1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:19.360 watching that guy and I don't know, he just he's 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:21.200 honestly one of my favorite players of all time. 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:22.559 I miss that dude. 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.120 The that Dude BP show when Seg would interview him 1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:26.519 in the dugout before Red Home came. 1:34:27.320 --> 1:34:28.559 Oh how did that gets? 1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:31.120 So good? That was such good radio. 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:33.000 So good, really good. 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:35.200 Oh my god, it was so funny. 1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:38.200 God, listen the sex questions player. 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:41.200 I don't know, but that I will say that that 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:42.920 that that's up there, Banana. 1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:43.040 Phone to me. 1:34:43.960 --> 1:34:46.040 We got it. We got to bring them back. So 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:49.240 that's just going with our Reds of course, red going on. 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:53.000 That Dude BP. It's the that Dude BP show. 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:56.440 In the studio. 1:34:56.760 --> 1:34:59.559 I had Brandon in studio and that was going on 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:02.800 for for the Winter Caravan, and he was in and 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:05.519 and he had heard never heard me talk like before, 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:06.479 and his. 1:35:06.439 --> 1:35:10.000 Eyes got massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, he's like he 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:13.280 just started to laugh, so I hit. He's like I 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:15.000 did the sega. 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:19.439 So we're with that, dude, be Pete Brandon Brandon, I mean, 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:23.360 you know, how what the the baseball the second for 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:24.240 or second ban? 1:35:24.600 --> 1:35:31.000 So how long you've been black and oh mysh first. 1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:38.040 Eyes got huge and he laughed for he was howling. 1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:41.080 He is the best. 1:35:41.120 --> 1:35:43.720 He loves that. He just loves all that stuff. I 1:35:43.840 --> 1:35:47.240 love me some brand Phillips. He was great, absolutely. 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:50.360 Great, so definitely deserved. Yeah, they're going to do that 1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:56.959 in April. So right, there's a little bit of the Yeah. 1:35:56.760 --> 1:35:58.600 One of the I would say, Brandon Phillips one of 1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:02.200 the great all time Red personalities. And keep in mind, 1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:05.280 in my lifetime, which is long, you know, there's Pete 1:36:05.360 --> 1:36:05.960 Rose and a whole. 1:36:05.800 --> 1:36:06.920 Bunch of others. 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:13.920 Yeah, the little debbies, the debbies, right, we never knew 1:36:13.920 --> 1:36:14.920 what that meant. We thought it was. 1:36:15.160 --> 1:36:17.280 One of the all time great Reds. If you had 1:36:17.280 --> 1:36:19.960 a Reds Personality Hall of Fame, Brandon Phillips would be there. 1:36:20.880 --> 1:36:21.680 Absolutely. 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:23.639 I feel like that's the last time that we were 1:36:23.680 --> 1:36:25.520 like really cool. 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:29.200 You know exactly all right, more futility from the Bengals. 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:30.679 We'll see what the Reds have to offer. 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:31.599 I don't know. 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:33.720 Being a sports fan in Cincinnati is tough work. She's 1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:36.639 Sarah Elise the Snort Report on this Wednesday morning. She's 1:36:36.680 --> 1:36:38.720 back sometime first of the year. Then again, maybe not, 1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:41.840 maybe the roads won't be icy. She can come and Sarah. 1:36:41.640 --> 1:36:45.920 Lease flooded right now, like I said, flooded. Flooding from 1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:48.920 Bakor Stadium, and it's my house is underwater. 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:50.000 So we got problems. 1:36:50.120 --> 1:36:52.639 You know why you got to wipe off those seats. 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:54.320 Well, you know you could stay home and pretend you 1:36:54.439 --> 1:36:56.080 I would just bring some snow in from the outside 1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:57.559 and throw it on your couch and then sit there 1:36:57.560 --> 1:36:58.559 and pretend you're at the game. 1:36:59.360 --> 1:36:59.960 I could do that. 1:37:01.120 --> 1:37:03.200 Nothing but wet butts and disappointment. 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:05.519 Merry Christmas on Happy New Year. We'll talk next year. 1:37:06.040 --> 1:37:07.080 You too, have a good one. 1:37:07.680 --> 1:37:09.400 You too take care of Sloane here on the home 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:12.560 of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred Deputy OLDWT Cincinnati