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Speaker 1: Ben liber At Nacho Liber via x Twin Cities Live

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Speaker 1: three to four thirty on a Channel five. Twin Cities Live,

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Speaker 1: Twin Cities Live, a fantastic inspiring Twin Cities Live three

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Speaker 1: to four thirty, Channel five, Ben and Elizabeth, It's a fantastic, inspiring,

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Speaker 1: open minded, discussion oriented TV show. TCL Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: we what a wonderful show. Make sure you watch it

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Speaker 1: each and every day. Wow, what a glowing review.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, no problem, welcome, Yeah, good to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 1: The Reeling Vikings are at the Lions Sunday and the

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Speaker 1: game is in Detroit. Next, Nacho liber shares his ten

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Speaker 1: all time favorite motown songs. This is Twin Cities Live.

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Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know that would never be the case

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Speaker 3: because hey, I don't know one motown song.

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Speaker 1: You know, no fewer than twenty. You just don't know

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Speaker 1: their motives. That's probably true. Boom boom boom boom boom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got sunshine.

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Speaker 3: So here's the Here's one thing that drives my wife

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Speaker 3: absolutely crazy is that I'm not I'm not quote music guy.

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Speaker 3: She loves music, loves loves music. I'm not I appreciate music.

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Speaker 3: I like music, but I'm not in it to where

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Speaker 3: like I know who sang what song?

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Speaker 2: What the title of songs are? Yep?

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Speaker 3: Shoot even yeah, even the songs that I do like.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I know all the lyrics? Nah?

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Speaker 2: I'm a vibe guy.

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Speaker 3: Like, if the song's got good vibe, I like it,

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Speaker 3: I can jam do it. I like it on But

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Speaker 3: I but I'm not one to say, like this is

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Speaker 3: my favorite band since I was a kid. I'm gonna know,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have every record and every CD and every

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Speaker 3: cassette and in all the vinyls.

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Speaker 2: Not that guy.

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Speaker 1: So to your point, Well, in Vermilion, South Dakota, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys were scratching and surviving to get Wi Fi.

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to think you got record players?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we lived, Yeah, we lived in the stone Age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when I was growing up, you guys,

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Speaker 3: you guys had your fancy tape decks and all this

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Speaker 3: other stuff, and you know, we were still on eight

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Speaker 3: track and you know, and all and all we really got.

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Speaker 3: And then truthfully, like our household wasn't a we didn't

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Speaker 3: have music.

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Speaker 2: On all the time.

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Speaker 3: The only time I really really like jammed music was

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Speaker 3: to and from church, and we had Casey Kasem on

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Speaker 3: America's Top forty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was immortality, He's the best, He's the best.

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Speaker 3: And then we you know, we'd hear the most popular songs.

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Speaker 3: It was always probably like and coming in at number

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Speaker 3: twenty one on this week's Top one.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't like always the popular song. It was

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Speaker 2: like all right in the middle.

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Speaker 1: So you were never the guy who like picked the

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Speaker 3: Well here's here's what's really going to like piss a

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Speaker 3: Like it's not my vibe.

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Speaker 2: But you can tolerate it. I can tolerate some of it.

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Speaker 3: I like, I like newer age country music versus like

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Speaker 3: the old school country music.

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Speaker 2: I like. I actually like Darius Rucker.

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Speaker 3: But so that that being said, you know, like white

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Speaker 3: Boy Wednesdays in the locker room and and in the

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Speaker 3: So like I was like, give me thugged out Thursdays.

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Speaker 3: I'm much cooler with thugged out Thursdays right in freestyle Fridays.

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Speaker 3: But like you would think you would think, because of

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Speaker 3: my ethnicity and being in South Dakota, that I would

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Speaker 3: be like down for White Boy Wednesdays and then be

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Speaker 3: in charge of the music. No no, And then so

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Speaker 3: I was I could never be that guy because my

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Speaker 3: if I was in charge of the music on White

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Speaker 3: Boy Wednesday, then it would have become more hip hop

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Speaker 3: and like more of that up tempo stuff. And then

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Speaker 3: the white guys would be like no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: And then well, if you let Greenway contry, it would

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Speaker 1: be Chris Stapleton for like three hours, yeah, which I which.

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Speaker 3: Again, I'm just fine. I'm causing so much controversy here.

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Speaker 3: Not really that I've gone to Stapleton concerts. I think

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Speaker 3: he's the worst, the worst in person entertainer that I've

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Speaker 1: He's unbelievable immortality. I'm just like that was a bold.

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Speaker 3: I want everybody to understand what I'm saying here the

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Speaker 3: worst concert entertainer I've ever seen. Now, I'm not taken

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Speaker 3: away from his music. His music is fantastic him as

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Speaker 3: a performer. If you're gonna go see a live band, right,

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Speaker 3: you also you you love the music, but you also

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Speaker 3: He he he actually captivates you in zero ways, like

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean he stands there and looks at his wife

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he even look at the crowd. He has his

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Speaker 3: I can't love his gal. He has his head turned

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Speaker 3: doesn't say like manyplis say, Paul, so good to me here,

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Speaker 3: thanks for having me, this is amazing, you guys are great,

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Speaker 2: No, it's this song after song after song, he walks

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Speaker 1: He's done, do the And do you know his music

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Speaker 1: at all outside of tennis?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, because my wife listens to it, I

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Speaker 2: Understood.

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Speaker 1: Do the do the songs when you hear them live

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Speaker 1: from a mister Chris Stapleton, Uh huh? Do they sound different?

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Speaker 1: He's awesome. It's it sounds no, but that that's what

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Speaker 1: I want see. Like my all time favorite band, Daryl

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Speaker 1: Hall and John Oh yeah. All right, now you know

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Speaker 1: some songs, but they're entertainer.

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Speaker 3: I can't go for that. You make my dreams because

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Speaker 3: look like they're fun, but like the musical yeah, second

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Speaker 1: Say a song is three minutes and fifty seconds because

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Speaker 1: your Kiss, Your Kiss is on my list, Well it'll

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Speaker 1: end up being five and a half because in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the song, guitar guy does a riff that

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Speaker 1: works with the song, but it's not on the album.

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Speaker 1: the record. See they do a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: So the thing is but to take it a step further,

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Speaker 3: which I don't like. So I've gone to see Dave

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Speaker 3: Matthews a few times. They're very entertaining in person, but

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Speaker 3: they'll go on a ten minute riff in the middle

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Speaker 2: Now that's a little different.

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Speaker 3: You give me a couple of minutes you want to

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Speaker 3: show off your musical talents, and you be like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: that's not in the radio cut Like I like this,

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Speaker 2: Kind of fun. I'm jamming to this. I'm vibeous that.

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Speaker 3: I think that there is a there is a shelf

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Speaker 3: life to those little things. And if you're gonna go

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Speaker 2: Like six minute guitar jam.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the six minute guitar jams.

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Speaker 1: No no, And see, that's what makes the world go round,

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Speaker 1: that's what makes things so beautiful with personal taste. Like

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Speaker 1: my number one hobby hobby not like life, not like

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Speaker 1: there's an old there. I'm fifty nine years of age.

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Speaker 1: So there was a show way back in the day

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Speaker 1: called Midnight Special all right now when there were four channels, ABC, CBS,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. I'm the biggest Washington Bullets fan you'll

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Speaker 1: So the NBA Finals and a Stanley Cup all shown

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Speaker 2: So that was the world.

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Speaker 1: Then there was a show called Midnight Special and there

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Speaker 1: would be like bands that you've heard of, popular bands,

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Speaker 1: and there would be five stages and they would go,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's Man for Men and Blinded by the

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Speaker 1: Woolfman Jack would introduce him or Helen Ready or whomever. Well,

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Speaker 1: case like in Daryl Hall and John Notates's Rich Girl,

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Speaker 2: I can't have that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I didn't get a chance to watch that

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Speaker 1: Ronstadt and so on. That's I mean, I watch it

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Speaker 1: like my number one hobby. Well that's like zero point

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Speaker 1: six on your hobbies out of ten and for Nordo

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's just it's just like.

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Speaker 1: The musical prosclivities and tasting, like I saw, like it's

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Speaker 1: so Fi. It's so loud, it's so Fi compared to

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Speaker 1: like Chargers games at Sofi are so much louder than

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed that when you're on the sideline is because.

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Speaker 1: They got to hype the crowd up because nobody cares

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Speaker 1: about Chargers football.

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Speaker 2: So like burstis is.

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Speaker 1: Analyz you know, we is analyzing something or you're analyzing something,

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Speaker 1: and it's play stop age and you hear.

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, the La Chargers cheerleaders will be performing

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Speaker 5: at Rossco's Chicken and Waffles this Friday at six o'clock

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Speaker 5: and person just like you guys, trying to explain something

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Speaker 5: and here's the play blah blah blah incomplete it's third

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Speaker 5: and six pause. Ladies and gentlemen, you're Los Angeles Chargers cheerleaders.

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Speaker 2: It's so loud, but the music's loud too.

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Speaker 1: And I caught you on my binoculars on the Viking

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Speaker 1: sideline during a break and you you I mean, the

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Speaker 1: team was getting killed. So it's not like you were

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Speaker 1: doing the moonwalk or like doing Michael Jackson dances.

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Speaker 2: But you were bouncing a little bit, you know what.

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Speaker 2: The song was, no.

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Speaker 1: Honey here, and you were, oh yeah, you were just bouncing.

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Speaker 2: You got your arms out, snapping your fingers and everything.

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Speaker 2: Javon Hart, Hey, Javon Hargrave came over right.

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Speaker 1: Next to your dark going, hey, you guys dancing together

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Speaker 1: Ben Leber at Nacho liber Via the tweet Machine, McCarthy says,

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Speaker 3: And that's more like Jalen Hurts. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: But if he's creator guy, extending plays guy, let let

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Speaker 2: So I guess I'm excited to see. We're not gonna

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Speaker 3: Walk away from Detroit and say like, oh, this this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. It's I just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: They lose first game this year, playoff game to Washington.

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Speaker 1: The run defense needs to improve against Gibbs and Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: The Sunday Noon for the Boom, more on the Bikings

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Speaker 2: But first, the.

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Speaker 2: Use the keyword dollar at KFA in.

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Speaker 1: Which players will get the most looks with McCarthy and

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Speaker 2: And good morning? Good morning?

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Speaker 3: We understand that that not everything is fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: But I think the balance of the play calling is

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Speaker 2: I really really want to see that into this game.

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Speaker 3: Because, as you know and I know watching these Lions,

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Speaker 3: like maybe looked to him a little bit too often,

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Speaker 3: and I think he should have been looking elsewhere for

440
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: some bigger opportunities. But if McCarthy can keep his eyes

441
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Speaker 3: open and just not just focus in on Jets, then a.

442
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: Great possibility that JAA has a huge game.

443
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Speaker 4: How much of this you know you talk about I

444
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 4: think it was five attempts you were right on the eleven,

445
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: I think, but it was five in the first half,

446
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 4: which was kind of jarring.

447
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: And you're down twenty one three.

448
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: So you're looking at game flow and how urgent are

449
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: you trying to push the ball in the pass game?

450
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: How much of this run game? And we saw you know,

451
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: less than fewer than twenty carries. I think in the

452
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Speaker 4: Falcons loss, how much of it is related to the

453
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Speaker 4: you know, fifty different O line combinations where it's like

454
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Speaker 4: this week we were expecting to have Darris Saw, were

455
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: expecting to have Brian O'Neil, basically everybody in the mix

456
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Speaker 4: except for Ryan Kelly with brand Dell at center. So

457
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Speaker 4: how much of it has been related to man? I mean,

458
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Speaker 4: it's it's tough grinding out yards with Joe Huber and

459
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: justin school, we're talking about pre snap penalties, cohesion and

460
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Speaker 4: all of that. You think that leads to fewer rush

461
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Speaker 4: attempts or is it more I guess game script and

462
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Speaker 4: the coach making those decisions.

463
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Speaker 3: See, I've always been under the assumption that by and large,

464
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman would prefer to go downhill than kickstep and

465
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Speaker 3: pass protect. And you throw in all these different combinations

466
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Speaker 3: of guys and you know, listen, they're they're backups for

467
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: a reason. They're they're not quite as skilled as the

468
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Speaker 3: guys that start in front of them.

469
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Speaker 2: That's just the nature of the game.

470
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Speaker 3: So if if in totality, everybody's better going forward, I

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: would just assume that those backups and those different line

472
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: combinations would would function better if they were going downhill.

473
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 3: They're they're sort of just getting into a flow of

474
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: the game through the run game, versus finding the flow

475
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: of the game kickstepping and having protect the quarterback. So

476
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much I put into that. I

477
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Speaker 3: understand that. Listen, I know play calling has got to

478
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: be very difficult, and I will and I will speak

479
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Speaker 3: out of both sides of my mouth on this issue

480
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Speaker 3: because I'm not a play caller. You go back to

481
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: the Eagles game. We were fantastic throwing the ball in

482
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Speaker 3: first down. Our play action pass game on first down,

483
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: and that in that Eagles game was phenomenal. I think

484
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Speaker 3: that we had we had over one hundred yards on

485
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Speaker 3: like what nine attempts or something like that.

486
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Speaker 2: We were really, really good.

487
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Speaker 3: And and so if I'm a play caller, I'm like, Okay, hey,

488
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: if we play action on a first down and it's

489
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: hitting for chunk yardage, why would I go away from that?

490
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: The issue is when it doesn't work. Now you're second

491
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: and ten, and now it becomes are we predictable now

492
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 3: in running the football, and all of a sudden they

493
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: stack the box and they either run a run blitz

494
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: or something of the sorts to combat what they think

495
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: is more of a predictable play. So it is a

496
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Speaker 3: little bit of risk reward when it comes to the

497
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Speaker 3: play calling. So I understand sometimes the conundrum we're in

498
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: and then you bring up the game flow where boy,

499
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: we're just seemed to be chasing all the time, and

500
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: it's hard to chase when you don't have two healthy

501
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: running backs and you've got one running back that you're

502
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: supposed to be Rebell Cows not a game breaker, you know,

503
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: he's not a four to four guy. So are you

504
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: going to run your way to success and then call

505
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: your way back in this game? Probably not, So I

506
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: understand that you feel like you've got to throw the

507
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Speaker 3: ball a little.

508
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: Bit more life without Tiden Josh Oliver. How does that

509
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Speaker 1: impact this game?

510
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Speaker 2: Who?

511
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: Under the assumption he doesn't play, But I think it's

512
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: a fair assumption.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think, you know, maybe maybe it is

514
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: sort of a forced blessing that when we get into

515
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, maybe we go from we run the football

516
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: more out of eleven personnel, we go more ten personnel.

517
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: We find ways to spread out this defense, and that

518
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: does subject you to maybe less guys blocking in the

519
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 3: past game. But maybe that just kind of forces our

520
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: hand and be like, all right, well let's spread these

521
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: guys out. And maybe these short passes are an extension

522
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 3: of the run game. But he's ultra valuable in what

523
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: he can do. I mean the versatility that he brings

524
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 3: run the football on the edge, going big, going twelve personnel,

525
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: using Hawkinson as a split out guy, using Hawkinson as

526
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: an as an in line player really gives us a

527
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: lot of flexibility. So yeah, it's a bit. It's a

528
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: big miss to me that we're not going to have

529
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: him out there. And H and C. J. Hamm is

530
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: also a big miss as well. So that that being said,

531
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure the guys that we have behind them,

532
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: You're a second and and Sims if he ends up

533
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: playing a lot are as good run blockers as Josh Oliver.

534
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's you're sure of that? Yeah, yeah they're not. Yeah,

535
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: So I mean we're all sure of that. And it's

536
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: no up front to the players. That's job Jesus.

537
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah he's Yeah, that's that's his forte and that's he's

538
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: built more like that.

539
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's his Matt, that's his fourte How how does

540
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: one slow Jamir Gibbs.

541
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Speaker 2: Right? Uh? I wish, I wish I really knew. I mean,

542
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: so so good, he's so cool, He's yeah, he's great man.

543
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: It's cool too, man, I.

544
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: Know, he's he's a fun guy to watch, and he's

545
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: a really fun guy to cheer for. You know, the

546
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: Chiefs did a really good job. But again, it takes

547
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: a team. It's not just can we get Cashman or

548
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: somebody BLITZINGI downhill. I mean, it's gonna take a little

549
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: bit of that here and there. But the Chiefs did

550
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 3: a really good job just up front, just beating their

551
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: offensive line.

552
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: They were faster than them off the ball. They controlled

553
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: the that.

554
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: That line, and that's what it's going to take getting

555
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs to second guess himself the second he gets

556
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: the ball handed off to him. We all know how

557
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: dynamic and electric he can be when he when he

558
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: gets if he gets to the line of scrimmage or

559
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: the full head of steam, good luck bro.

560
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean his vision, his quickness.

561
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean I remember talking to some of the players,

562
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 3: I think it was after this lat the the end

563
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: of the the last game of the season last year,

564
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: and some of the defensive guys like, you don't understand

565
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: how fast this guy is until you're on the field

566
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: with him. There's there is a gracefulness at which he runs.

567
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: Even though you can see the turnover, you can see

568
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: the frequency of his legs, but when you see it

569
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: in real time, guys are shocked by how fast he runs.

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: So when he gets a full head of steam, it's hard.

571
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: So I guess my answer is our defensive line has

572
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: to play the best game that they've played all season long,

573
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: not just in the past game, not just getting vertical

574
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: pressure on Jared Goff and flesh him out of the

575
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: pocket because I think that's where he's the most vulnerable.

576
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: It's going to be pushing this very good offensive line

577
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: back on their side of the lion of scrimmage consistently

578
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: in the run game, and we just haven't seen that

579
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: since the season started.

580
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Speaker 1: Okay, So lastly, for the Vikings to pull an up

581
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: set Sunday, which players need to have big games, I mean,

582
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: just have to have big games for.

583
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: Them to they're nine point underdogs.

584
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: Holy col Well, I'll take any I'll take any any

585
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: guy on the defensive front, on the interier part of

586
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: our defense. I mean, I will personally challenge those guys

587
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: that play those inside positions. I understand that everybody's got

588
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: to play well across the board, but if it's Hardgrave,

589
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: please show up. Would love to see that. Jonathan Allen,

590
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: He's done a really good job of the run game.

591
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Would love to see him get more some more vertical

592
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: pressure and affect the quarterback in the past game El

593
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: presidente Levi Drake Rodriguez, I love his effort. We gotta

594
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: we gotta have more in this game to stop the run.

595
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: All of those guys up front need to play, need

596
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: to play stronger and more physical and and get off

597
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: the blocks and just and just have this mentality of

598
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: being unblockable at all times. So those guys have to

599
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: have to play great. And of course McCarthy's got to

600
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: play great. I mean, he's the guy. He's You're the guy, dude,

601
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: You're healthy. There's nobody else. We're not turning to brozmer Uh.

602
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: This is supposed to be your time, your franchise. Go

603
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: out there and show us something and take care of

604
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: the football. But I said this in game one and

605
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: I'll say it again. Letter rip man, let her rip.

606
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: I don't you're gonna learn more. You're going to learn

607
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: more by throwing three interceptions, throwing into tight coverage and

608
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: taking risks than you will if you pull the ball

609
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: down and take a sack and be like, at least

610
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: I didn't turn the ball over. Yeah, maybe you know

611
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: we we we live to play another down. But I

612
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: would love to see you start checking off things of

613
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: what you're capable of doing. Was that a good read

614
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: or is that not a good read? Can I fit

615
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: that in there?

616
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: Can I not?

617
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: Because we're gonna need that if you're going to be

618
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: our franchise guy for the next ten years.

619
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Speaker 2: You're talking about JJ McCarthy.

620
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and lastly part two, give us your best thirty

621
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Speaker 1: on this because McCarthy, he's in a game, we dig him,

622
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: then he's gone for a year. Then he's in two

623
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: games and we're patient, we dig him, then he's gone

624
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: for a month and change. So the backup, you know

625
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: with brosemurt like, how does a backup prepare in case

626
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: they have to play?

627
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's just like most difficult it don't get

628
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: into reps.

629
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Speaker 3: I mean you might get in a ten to twelve

630
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: place script and anyone so.

631
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Speaker 2: Is not Scout Team guy.

632
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: Brosem is no Wolf Yeah, okay, Brose wore probably Scout

633
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: Team guy. Yeah, he'll probably give reps on Scout Team

634
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: and Wolferd will get his get some, probably split some

635
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: of the Scout team stuff.

636
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: But when it comes to starting reps.

637
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: Oh you might get one, yeah, two reps yep in

638
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: a given segment.

639
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you just you just want JJ to throw

640
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: caution into the wind. Just let a rip.

641
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: I do.

642
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thank you very much, all right, just

643
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: let her, just let her rip JJ first and ten

644
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: from the twenty seven of the Bears, McCarthy out of

645
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: the shotgun Blitz is on its picked up.

646
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 6: McCarthy look sits to joves to.

647
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Show time and the Minnesota Vikings.

648
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Have taken on one point lead back after this.

649
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040
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650
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,400
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651
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,840
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652
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600
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653
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: Oh wait, today's Thursday. From ten am to ten pm

654
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: on Thursdays, they have the NFL Pro Pickam Challenge and

655
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Speaker 4: all you got to do to participate it's free, by

656
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Speaker 2: Have a blast.

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Speaker 4: Then you pick the NFL winners through the weekend. And

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Speaker 4: maybe you win this week and you get some walking

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Speaker 4: Just win the pro pick them challenge. At the end

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Speaker 4: Canterbury Canterbury Park dot com. Love my Wolves, but wow

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Speaker 4: want a cup punch last night?

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Speaker 6: All right, same set up, the Lakers will have it

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Speaker 6: barside La Rabia triggers in Lakers down by one.

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Speaker 2: It comes to Austin.

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Speaker 6: Reeves against Jane mctagills five seconds left eight and set

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Speaker 6: the high screen with great now with two Reeves on

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Speaker 6: a drive, gets in the paint, floats up the shot

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Speaker 6: and hits it at the buzzer. Austin Reeves has won

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Speaker 6: the game for the La Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Alan Horton on the call one sixteen one fifteen the

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Speaker 4: final Things looked howl heavy early on, specifically in the

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Speaker 4: first quarter. Then Reeves gets things going and well, frankly,

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Speaker 4: the Wolves were just dreadful in the second and third quarter,

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Speaker 4: defense non existent. The head coach Chris Finch joined upa

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Speaker 4: out of the gates. It was kind of fun late

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Speaker 4: stages of the third, and then probably midway through the

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Speaker 4: fourth you get Bones high Lam mean they were up

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Speaker 4: by seventeen twenty ishit times, and then Bones Highland rolls

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Speaker 4: in for a quick six minutes, pumps in eight points,

687
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Speaker 4: and you're feeling good about yourself. Just clomping and clanking.

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Speaker 4: The team was for a large part of the game.

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Speaker 4: Jake Laavia goes off for twenty seven. I think he

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Speaker 4: had five triples for the Lakers. Got really hot in

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Speaker 4: the second half in particular, but then defense clamps down.

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Speaker 4: They erased the double digit lead. It was eleven or

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Speaker 4: twelve with like four and a half to go. Take

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Speaker 4: the lead with a high end Julius Randall, I mean

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Speaker 4: he just worked his way in there. I think he

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Speaker 4: finished with the left and it was a beautiful shot,

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Speaker 4: only for Reeves ten seconds dragging it down, finds his

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Speaker 4: way through. Rudy kind of caught shifting near the key,

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Speaker 4: and Dante DiVincenzo tried to get a hand up, just

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Speaker 4: a little laid on it. They lose, and now they're

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Speaker 4: two and three and they are at Charlotte on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: elide intel on your end.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just check it out how those Hornets

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Speaker 2: are looking. Brandon Miller with a shoulder.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if LaMelo Ball is still playing every

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Speaker 4: minute of every game yet before he undoubtedly sustains some

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Speaker 4: weird injury.

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Speaker 1: But the Wolves need a w In Charlotte on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the end of the game was very interesting. Well, first,

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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves gave up ninety seven points through three quarters,

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Speaker 1: and that's absolutely working on the last nerve of Chris Finch.

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Speaker 1: Then Chris laid on the sword, basically said that final

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Speaker 1: possession and a bad defensive set scheme call or whatever

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Speaker 1: was on him.

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Speaker 2: And I can see what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, with all due respect high end

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Speaker 1: players like Austin Reeves. When I say high end, I'm

718
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Speaker 1: talking about his bald handling skills. He gets to split doubles. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good players get to make good plays too. Devincenzo closed.

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Speaker 1: Devincenzo jumped Reeves with a tear, drop over him with

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Speaker 1: a float, or over him's good shot. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Chris is laying on that sword to deflect

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Speaker 1: attention from others, but coaches will do that.

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Speaker 2: And quite honestly, for my.

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Speaker 1: Whatever amount of years I've been part of KFAM PA

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Speaker 1: and Dubayer through now twenty seven, twenty eight, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember the last time, if ever, I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: this never has happened that free coaches of major programs

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Speaker 1: in this market within a week all laid on the

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Speaker 1: proverbial swords and put either critical moments that led to

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Speaker 1: a loss on them or put the games on them.

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Speaker 1: So Gay's team loses, doesn't score a touchdown, loses by

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns in a field goal to Iowa, completely took

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Speaker 1: all the blame for everything. O'Connell the Thursday night before

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Speaker 1: that said, and I've never heard Kevin say this, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether in private or in public, that he I take

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Speaker 1: responsibility for not having the team ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's big stuff right there, man.

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Speaker 1: When they say that, and then FINCHI did it again, Yes,

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Speaker 1: did it yesterday, three within within six days. It just

741
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Speaker 1: never works works that way.

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Speaker 4: I don't mean to put you in a spot, but

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Speaker 4: what he's referring to on that final defensive set, I'm

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Speaker 4: curious if anything pops in your head in terms of

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Speaker 4: what it could look.

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Speaker 2: Like if it was different because it's what he said.

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Speaker 2: Because right of the beginning of the interview.

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Speaker 4: Even on the TV call having they were talking a

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Speaker 4: bit about it, that Rudy having to defend that screen.

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Speaker 2: And you saw it on the play before.

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Speaker 4: Where prior to the out of bounds in the final time,

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Speaker 4: I was called, where you were you putting Rudy.

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Speaker 2: In a tough spot there?

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Speaker 4: If Reeves gets into position like he did, yes, to

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Speaker 4: ask him to do something that far out and maybe

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Speaker 4: created the problem that led to the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he I would suggest podcasting because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do a disservice to the brilliant answer he gave

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Speaker 1: with my first question today, because that's first question I

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Speaker 1: asked him. Was you laid on the sword man for

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Speaker 1: that final play? What are you talking about here? And

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Speaker 1: he talked for about forty five seconds straight, explained it beautifully.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it justice, so listen back to it

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Speaker 1: kfan dot com Finchy on demand.

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Speaker 4: I should have played the audio absolutely to the World Series.

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Speaker 4: They got after Blake Snell early Snell into the liners.

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Speaker 7: The first pitcher Game five of the World Series and

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Speaker 7: it's hit high let feel in deep call back that's

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Speaker 7: the track. We've said, the wall and that ball he's gone.

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Speaker 7: Our first pitch homer for Davis Schneider.

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Speaker 2: And the Blue Jays take the lead of the first

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Game five. Two pitches later and the.

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Speaker 7: One why he rocks the ball, block field and d

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Speaker 7: back to the wall. It has gone again, back to

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Speaker 7: back blass in the first and in three pitches the

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Speaker 7: Blue Jays lead to nothing.

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Speaker 4: Trey you Savage, their rookie pitcher for the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 4: that is, struck out twelve. I think that's a new

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Speaker 4: World Series record. He went seven six, won the final.

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Speaker 4: Completely saw this thing the wrong way, at least I did.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see a spot here, not just even finding

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Speaker 4: their way to a couple victories. Appreciated talented team as

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Speaker 4: the Jays are, but with the way they've handled this

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Speaker 4: series and specifically now putting themselves in a three to

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Speaker 4: two lead, it's been a fun series, as we've kind

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Speaker 4: of chronicled last few days. But the Jays with an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to go back to Toronto and win a World

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Speaker 4: Series over the previously heavy, heavily favored Dodgers, it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for you Savage, I think I think what you

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Speaker 1: meant was first in history of World Series with at

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Speaker 1: least twelve strikeouts and no walks. And he's the first

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Speaker 1: and the history of the World Series to do that.

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Speaker 1: And it's who knew for me? I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: his name. Took me about a month to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to pronounce it. And I've watched him throughout the

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Speaker 1: baseball postseason. He's fantastic this year. Savage, Holy cow, really good.

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Speaker 1: And and he he was in and assuming wobbles here

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Speaker 1: within the next five minutes or so, because he's the

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Speaker 1: baseball guy in the Covenant, but he he was in

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Speaker 1: single a earlier this year. You Savage was a single

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Speaker 1: A pitcher earlier this year, I think in like age

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Speaker 1: twenty two or twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was some bid on X where he's only

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Speaker 4: made about fifty grand this year.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So earlier in the year he's in a single

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Speaker 1: A ascends they go with him late, all right, So

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Speaker 1: it's that that's the the super special X amount of

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Speaker 1: players for the playoff roster.

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Speaker 2: Who do we keep? Who do we not keep?

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Speaker 1: Like the tough decisions that they're having to make with

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Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw on some other people for the Dodgers. This

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Speaker 1: guy made the playoff roster, and holy cow, thank Heavens

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Speaker 1: for Jays fans he did. He probably was a cinch

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Speaker 1: to make. But out of nowhere. What a great Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball story. This tray is savage, not only making

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Speaker 1: history last night, but complimenting a team that eventually is

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Speaker 1: gonna hit. Snake Bell has been he's been the problem

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Speaker 1: point of the three big dogs that the Dodgers have. Well,

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Speaker 1: Yamamoto goes tomorrow night. I mean, if you win the

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Speaker 1: Yamamoto game, you win the World Series. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: good luck winning the Yamamoto game feels like an underwhelming

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Speaker 1: affair Tomorrow night. Good luck winning the Yamamoto game because

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Speaker 1: he has those guys so mesmerized right now by that

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Speaker 1: little slider that comes in at the high eighties. That's

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Speaker 1: going to be wonderful Tomorrow night. But the Jays can hit,

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Speaker 1: and they're not afraid of the Dodgers. La Guerrero Junior

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Speaker 1: super cool. So this series has been terrific every step

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Speaker 1: of the way. Should be elite Tomorrow Night.

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Speaker 4: Ravens seven and a half point favorites over Miami the

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Speaker 4: return of lamar Pa. The Ravens are two and five.

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Speaker 4: Let's do a little quick hyperbolic or hyper accurate. Love

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Speaker 4: it the Ravens at two and five, now that Lamar's healthy,

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Speaker 4: they should be favored to win the AFC North over

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Speaker 4: the four and three Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's wonderful. Oh jeez, it's hyperbolic because no, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say it's hyper accurate because I believe that

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Speaker 1: coaching staff is so good and with Lamar and the

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Speaker 1: assumption he plays the rest of the games, I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to craft their offense out

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Speaker 1: of the by a certain way to protect their defense.

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was I was gonna say hyperbolic

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Speaker 1: because because their defense is a problem.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: I just I think the longer you go with Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: I think the Jalen Ramsey, Darius lay Trix They're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back to the pack gradually, game by game. That

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Speaker 1: happens to old people. And I just think Baltimore, Baltimore

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Speaker 1: is better. Baltimore is better than Pittsburgh. So I think

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Speaker 1: that was a hyper accurate statement.

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Speaker 4: And lastly, and you know what, we'll get an answer

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Speaker 4: probably around the break. Familiar face to the Minnesota Twins

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Speaker 4: former bench coach Derek Shelton. He was fired earlier this

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Speaker 4: year from his managerial post in Pittsburgh after a twelve

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Speaker 4: and twenty six start. Former bench coach becomes manager in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Is now replacing his former boss, Rocco Baldelli. He's been

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Speaker 4: named the new manager of the Minnesota Twins. That's all

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Speaker 4: I got for news to Nord columnist to Lavelli, Neil

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Speaker 4: the third. He's a columnist for the Star Review.

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Speaker 2: We believe he will be joining us around the corner.

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Speaker 1: And then John Hines, coach of the Minnesota Wild He

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Speaker 1: amplifies the production at about eleven forty. Look forward to

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Speaker 1: talking to Heinze with said the kid in town tonight.

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Speaker 1: That one's on Kfan right around seven o'clock against the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins. It's eleven oh three. Good morning, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to KFAM