1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 1: And thirty eight seconds past the hour three o'clock Central 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Standard time. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: It is a Monday edition of the Bumper to Bumper 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Program on a still pretty cold Monday afternoon here in 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul Guards the 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: out today, Blake Moore reminds me he's out tomorrow, and 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I think he's also on Wednesday. I think he's on 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: a road trip again with Golden and Go for women's 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: basketball team. And then for that reason, Brett Blakemore is 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: in that share. He'll be in that share as well 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: tomorrow and Wednesday, and today probably will be I'm guessing, 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: start to finish what we call a combo platter program. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: We spent this is unusual for us, all of Sunday 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: sermons on the horrific weekend and the larger ramifications regarding 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: that story, and we'll continue to pick that up at 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: times today. In fact, a lot of our guests, our 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: guest situation is fluid. I'll tell you that I, for 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: the moment, locked in at three thirty is a Johnny athletic, 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: and we're probably going to play back a significant portion 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: of our interview with Andy Lueger yesterday, the former US attorney. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: And again, I know there's people out there who listen 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: six days a week and they'll go, well, I heard it. 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you I appreciate that. I appreciate the loyalty. 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: But the truth is that the weekday audience is a 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: lot larger than the Sunday audience. So and I think 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: much of what Andy had to say remains as relevant 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: today as it was yesterday. So that'll be eventually part 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: of the program. I'm not locking in times because I'm 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: also working as we speak on a couple of other guests. 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: A branch on Brian Cafe in text Line will be 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: open eventually at six four six eight six, so there 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: will be plenty of a section. 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: And let's I guess state the obvious. 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Anything else we talk about, including the Viking's worst nightmare 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, will seem rather fluffy and light 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: compared to the A topic story. Most people that I 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: talk to believe that's self evident, and yet they still 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: continue to go on with other aspects of their lives 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: and in this case, other aspects of our show. So 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: it will be a combo platter program again today, fully 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: cognizant of whatever other subject we talk about, it will 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: not have the same relevance, salience, and obviously urgency as 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the fast moving story that we have been subjected to 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: for the last several weeks. I mentioned the Vikings quarterback nightmare. 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Most of you are aware of what I'm talking about, 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: and it's I think the one for Vikings fans playing 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: watching this season, watching how their team didn't even come 49 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: close to making the postseason, despite the fact that allegedly 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: we're only a half game out. In the end, there's 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: been one saving grace even as they see the quarterbacks 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: here struggle and the quarterback that Seattle signed from US, 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, flourish. 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: It was. 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's been a cute season for him. He's 56 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: had some numbers comparable to what he did a year ago. 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: But come on, man, the reason we turned on him 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: was the last game of the regular season and the 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: first and only game of our postseason, where we got 60 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: edged by the Rams I think twenty seven to nine. 61 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Let's just see how Sam holds up once we get 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: to the postseason. That's the nightmare for Minnesota Vikings fans. 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: Because. 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: You could argue that even after last week's playoff round, 65 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you could sort of lie to yourself and say, well, 66 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: he was okay, but their defense carried them, and the 67 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks didn't really ask him to do all that much offensively. Right, Well, 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can delude yourself after his 69 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: performance yesterday, Blake, where. 70 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: Were you looking up for me? 71 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I think he threw for well over three hundred yards, 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: he threw three touchdowns, and he did not throw a 73 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: single interception. He went toe to toe with perhaps the 74 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: MVP in the league, Matthew Stafford, and didn't blink even once. 75 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: They almost had identical stat lines. Darnold twenty five for 76 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: thirty six, three hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns, 77 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: no picks. That's an eighty two point nine QBR and 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 3: a one twenty seven point eight rating. 79 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: How do you How do you hide from that? I 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: don't think you can hide from that. Now, I get it. 81 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: The comeback can be well, it's easy to say this now. 82 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: Nobody was saying this when the word on the street 83 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: was that the Vikings were not going to re sign 84 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, And there's some truth to that. But I'll 85 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: say what I've said all season. If the Vikings quarterback approach. 86 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: If the decisions that this team made in terms of 87 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 1: who they were committing to this year had looked better, 88 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: if that quarterback had looked better and healthier, then there 89 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't be all along this ongoing you know, looking back 90 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: on history, recreating it, reviewing it, doubling down on it. 91 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Regarding Darnald, Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, and dare I say 92 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: it as I did last Sunday Bo Nicks, none of 93 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: that would be front and because you'd say, well, that's great, 94 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: those guys are doing fine, but our guy is on 95 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: the way. The problem is our guy has not yet 96 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: shown he is on the way. Doesn't mean he can't be, 97 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: but he isn't. In the meantime, to add to the pain, 98 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: one of the guys you rejected, even if you had 99 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: good reason to, took the next step in a very 100 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: very big way, and they'll be. I assume they're favored 101 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: over the England Patriots. Will you double checked the current spread? 102 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna predict Seattle is favored by three and a half. 103 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: I believe I'm gonna double check by I believe it's 104 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 3: Seattle four and a half four and a half. Okay, 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: even more. There you have it, so they will be fair. 106 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you're gonna win, but they will indeed. 107 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Be favored. 108 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: So let me add to your misery in that regard. 109 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: If you are a Vikings fan, let's broaden out the discussion. 110 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: In a sense, it's calamitous, even though to the two 111 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks involved, there was nothing calamitous about what this day represents. 112 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: But Dan Minnesota reminds us that on this date in 113 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota sports history, two other former Vikings quarterbacks squared off 114 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl X. What's xxx VL No THEI that 115 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: would be thirty seven. Yeah, super Bowl thirty seven. I 116 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: used to know my Roman numerals. I don't know them 117 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: as much as I now do. That would be, of course, 118 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon. So you feel like he 119 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: kind of goes on and on. There's the historical side. 120 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: Of the nightmare. 121 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, for the record, Dan Minnesota also 122 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: reminds us that former Vikings defensive line coach Buddy Ryan 123 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: and his famed forty six defense won the Super Bowl 124 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen hundred and eighty six. 125 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: I was there with Jay Burrero. 126 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: If the Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana, as the Bears edged 127 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots forty six to ten, when 128 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: a Sota reminds us that Ryan was passed over for 129 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Vikings defensive coordinator and left again all related to the 130 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: larger issue. If the quarterback you were using was doing 131 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: better or progressing better, it would all this would be 132 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: relatively irrelevant if. 133 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: The Vikings had ever gotten to. 134 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: A Super Bowl and won it Paris, The thought there'd 135 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: be less baggage associated with the Gannon Brad Johnson matchup 136 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: and collision, or even that you know, we passed on 137 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan once upon a time. I've told the story 138 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: before when Ryan was the head coach in Philly. My 139 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: recollection is he was one and done in the playoffs 140 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: three straight years. He resurrected the team, but then they 141 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: couldn't get over the hump in the playoffs, and so 142 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: there was some criticism of him there. 143 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: And at the time this was in the Burnsy era. 144 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: Here I proposed via star Debune and there was no 145 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: startibune dot com. Then I don't think a coaching trade. 146 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Burnsy goes to Philly and we get Buddy Ryan here. 147 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: The thinking being Buddy would kind of be the new 148 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: sheriff in town that actually Denny Green became. 149 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: That was the whole idea. 150 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: He would be I don't give a damn how talented 151 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: these players are, how many Pro Bowl players we. 152 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Got, he ain't getting it done. 153 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: And the feeling was maybe Burnsy Light being a little lighter, 154 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a player's coach, that might 155 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: work on the other side of it as well. 156 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: Well. 157 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Obviously that trade never took place. 158 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I remember talking to Jerry Burns about that, 159 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: the late great Jerry Burns, in this very studio over 160 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the year. So you're back to you're now going to 161 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: have just be prepared for it because there's an there's 162 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: a week in between. There's going to be two weeks 163 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: of Donald's celebration because the media of narrative when he 164 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: started the playoffs was people were ready to turn on 165 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: him and to say, well, yeah, he's two straight years, 166 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: he's had fourteen and three teams. But what has happened 167 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: once it's really gotten to the nitty gritty, He hasn't succeeded. 168 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: They were ready, the jackals were ready to turn that 169 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: spotlight on him. 170 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: But it's gone the other way now. 171 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: And I guess barring throwing five interceptions in the Super Bowl. 172 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that that can be used any longer. 173 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: So what you're gonna get is two weeks of celebration 174 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: of the Darnald story that he hung in despite the 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: criticism even last year after his great regulars, got another job, 176 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: worked out his game, and is better than ever. He's 177 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: getting his head coach. That was his big theme after 178 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: the game. Basically, they doubted him, We didn't need him, 179 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: So again, don't text me with well, nobody wanted him 180 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: back then. 181 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: That's not the point of the story. 182 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: The point of the story is if whatever reason, even 183 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: you have good ones, you turn on a guy who 184 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: had a fourteen to three record and who apparently was 185 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: if he had enough pieces around him good enough to 186 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: take his team. 187 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: To the super Bowl, you lose. 188 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: You have failed in whatever your endeavor or your idea 189 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: or your mission was, Even if you had good reason 190 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: to do what you did, it accentuates the failure. And 191 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: that's the sad reality facing Vikings fans. So your choices 192 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: are I guess, just literally to ignore all coverage or 193 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: just be prepared that you're going to get an awful 194 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: lot of that in Seattle. As I said, is in 195 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a great position to win the whole thing. Game two 196 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: a shootout, Game one a defensive struggle in what developed 197 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: into a snow globe kind of a game with one 198 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks obviously being a backup who hadn't played 199 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: in two years. 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So let 211 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: us note you have to say by texting your message 212 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: a six four six eighty six at six four six 213 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: eight six standard text message in day right spot. 214 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: If somebody of. 215 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: The X wanted to know what segment of the program 216 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: we would discuss. Darnald not signing. Darnald, he writes, is 217 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: comparable to the Herschel Walker Trade. He asked it as 218 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: a question. I hope he doesn't believe that it's not 219 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: even in the same ballpark. I wouldn't say, because in 220 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: this case, we didn't lose a bunch of draft choices. 221 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: In fact, we gained a bunch of money that least 222 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: allowed us to add pieces. Now, of course the pieces 223 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: didn't end up getting us anywhere unfortunately. But no, I 224 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's a particularly The Walker trade, you know, 225 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: needs to sort of stay. I think in its own 226 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: place would be the best way that I could I 227 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: could put it. Johnny Athletic is coming up at the 228 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: bottom of this hour, ratcheand Brian Kafe in text line 229 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: is six for six eight six. By the way, can 230 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: we assume that Larry Mondelo guy is listening? I think 231 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: it's he's probably all the time. 232 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: People. Yeah, so close. 233 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Cergut to larry Mondelo guy, and I don't know what 234 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: to do about this. Friday, he sent a text. I 235 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: think it was like in the last half hour of 236 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: the show, and I was in process, the process of 237 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: blocking somebody else, but I did it too fast. I'm 238 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: pretty sure I blocked larry mondelo Now, I don't think 239 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: that means he's blocked for common because I think it 240 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: has to be on each log on correct, But I 241 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know how the problem with the unblocking is that 242 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: when you look at the spot where the numbers come up, 243 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: they're not sequential. In other words, it's not the last 244 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: number that you got blocked. So I don't even know 245 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: how to unblock them because I don't even know how 246 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to find you know how to do that. 247 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: So I have his numbers? Oh good, okay, all right, 248 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: good that if you can find it. 249 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel because the last thing I want to 250 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: do is let is have Larry Mandela guy feel like 251 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: we've turned on him. 252 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to miss out on the 253 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: comedic stylings. 254 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: There's that, Larry. 255 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to avoid that, but yeah, there's probably 256 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: some some truth to it as well. Yeah, sometimes you 257 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: can get too I can get a little bit too 258 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: quick with some of the blocks and you end up 259 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: blocking somebody didn't even tend to block. So Larry Mondello guy, 260 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: we'll try to figure that out. Maybe Blakemore can indeed 261 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: figure that out as as well. 262 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: And while someone who was supposed to get blocked is 263 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: still running wild. 264 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: On the it's a good point. That's a great point. Yeah, 265 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. That's a double L for sure. So 266 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: from the A section, you know, there was something encouraging 267 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: signs in the rhetoric earlier early in the day, including 268 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: from the President, but I, like most people, was a 269 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: bit skeptical because the devil is always going to be 270 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: in the details. Because he had said that he and 271 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: the Governor Walls had had a pretty good conversation. Well 272 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: we've heard that before. The question is does it actually 273 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: lead to any kind of cessation citation? Is that the 274 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: word ce s s ati. I can't even spell the word. 275 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I think you know what I'm talking about. For me, 276 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the most significant development of the day thus far, and 277 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I might have missed something in the last minute or two, 278 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: is the decision by Chris Maddel to withdraw as a 279 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Republican candidate for governor of the great state of Minnesota. 280 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: And Chris he released like a video it was about 281 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: I think ten minutes, very in depth, laying out a 282 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: number of things, including the reasons that he chose to 283 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: make this decision. And if you watch it and you're 284 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: someone who has been sympathetic to the ice surge, did 285 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: it give you any pause? Did it make you rethink 286 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: it a little bit? Let's remember so the Chris Maddel 287 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: ain't George McGovern that's a dated reference, but he was 288 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: a lefty from back in the day. 289 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: He's not even Jacob Fry. 290 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: In fact, he's an agitator often and critic of Jacob 291 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Fry and the governor. But to me, that should give 292 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: what he had to say even greater power and resonance. 293 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: And he basically said that he can't associate with a 294 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: party that nationally is involved in stated retribution on our citizens. 295 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: United States citizens, particularly those of color, live in fear. 296 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: United States citizens are caring papers to prove their citizenship. 297 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: That's wrong. 298 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Now, remember, for folks, law and order folks, Chris Mattel 299 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: was a hero previously because he is right of center 300 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: and because he defended successfully the estate trooper. I believe 301 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: his name was Laandergan, same guy. Is it possible he's 302 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: offering up what he's offering up because he's fed up? 303 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: How many examples of people in positions of authority who 304 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: have contacts, whether by the way it's previously from people 305 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: in law enforcement. Now him as someone who is not 306 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: an enemy of law enforcement by any stretch of the imagination, 307 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: saying all my information, the people I talk to confirm 308 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: these less than targeted operations. Does it give you any pause. 309 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: If you're going, yeah, I gotta a lot of here. 310 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: That an individual like I said it was not an 311 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: anti law and order is saying, this isn't law and order. 312 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: This is lawlessness in the name of law and order. 313 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: This is over the top enforcement that had nothing to 314 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: do with a targeted approach. I hope it resonates with people. 315 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Is his name big enough? I think in the Twin 316 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Cities it's pretty big. He was starting to make a 317 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: name for himself, you know, throughout the state as well. 318 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: But my hope, and that's why I think it's the 319 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: most significant story of the day. 320 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: Now, I get it. 321 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of you know, they're dug in whatever their 322 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: positions are on this thing. And I don't even know 323 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: his position quite frankly, on what the shooting that took place, 324 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: the fatal shooting that took place Saturday. But I think 325 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: he is smart enough to know that there is no 326 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: investigation as long as the FEDS are the only ones 327 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: doing it, that's a sham. The President might have softened 328 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: his words a bit, but several other people all the 329 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: entire weekend softened nothing. They lied, They made stuff up 330 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: about what the victim in this case was doing. We 331 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: could see on tape what he was and wasn't doing, 332 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: and as a result, no one can have any faith 333 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: that there would be any sort of meaningful investigation. Now 334 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: I think the BCA is back in it now. What 335 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: they've actually had access to I don't know. But to me, 336 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: this is the most significant development of the day because 337 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: if you are a hardcore righty, he says, get him 338 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: out of here, I should do it exactly what's supposed 339 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: to do? What do you say to him? Did they 340 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: get to him? You think they think they bought off 341 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: Chris Mattel. He's a pretty straight shooter, and he reached 342 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: a point where he couldn't countenance it, this whole thing 343 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: any longer. He couldn't mess with it any longer, couldn't be, 344 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: as he said, associating with it any longer. And so 345 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: we'll continue on that vein a little later in the show. 346 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: As I said, we're going to play back our interview 347 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: at some point with Andy Lueger from yesterday. A lot 348 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: of guests were going to be working on this entire week, 349 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: and so it'll continue to be kind of a mix 350 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: and match operation the rest of today, and I'm guessing 351 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the week as well. We will talk 352 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: at largely toy department stuff with the Johnny Athletic, although 353 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: you could argue there was some I guess carry over 354 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: at at Target Center yesterday. The Wolves are back in 355 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: action again against Golden State. The game that was played 356 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: yesterday had been originally scheduled a course for Saturday afternoon 357 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: that was moved to Sunday afternoon and the Wolves were 358 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: not competitive. They are playing the rematch this evening against 359 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: those same Golden State Warriors. Bratchean Brian Cafe in text 360 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: line is open at six four six eighty six. 361 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: Well check in with Johnny. He's next. 362 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Time, Johnny, Tony, Johnny ahead about right now. It is 363 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: indeed time for our good friend John Krasinski, John Athletic 364 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: joining us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Wolves back 365 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: in action tonight. Will that be the Kfen game or 366 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: a Timberwols channel game? Brett Blakemore, do we know fangame tonight? 367 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: The rematch against the Golden State Warriors. It did not 368 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: go very well last night? 369 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: You were you were? I trust you were there, Johnny, 370 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: last night, weren't you? 371 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 4: I was there? 372 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that's well. The people who didn't go 373 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: didn't miss much, I guess. So here's here's the sticky 374 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: wicket for me, because you know, after the game, it 375 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: sounded like Steve Kerr was pretty direct in suggesting that 376 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: the atmosphere was weird there and that maybe it was 377 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: all related to the tragic weekend. 378 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: And I I get what he's saying. 379 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: I also worry about that because it's it's also it 380 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: is also meaningless to try to like bring that into 381 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: the way a team played when somebody lost their life. 382 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, I just think it's such a dangerous road 383 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: to go down. But what did you observe? What did 384 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: you make out of it? 385 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Dan, I mean I'll just say it, like, yeah, 386 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: covered thousand games literally, and and I've been at you know, 387 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: that arena over and over and over again, and I 388 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: do think that the atmosphere this weekend, the protests on Friday, 389 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 4: the death on Saturday, all of the you know, postponing 390 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: the game a day, all of it did contribute to 391 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: a different feel and they're both for the team and 392 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: for the fans. Uh, I've than I've felt before in there. 393 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 4: I mean, there's no question right now Dan that over 394 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: the last five games the Timberwolves are playing very poorly. 395 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: They you know, you cannot attribute all of this losing 396 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: streak and all of the laziness on defense and the 397 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: lack of shot making and the bench scoring and everything. 398 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: You can't contribute that directly to what is happening. But 399 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: I did think that yesterday's performance, in particular, it looked 400 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: like no one was there. You had Anthony Edwards with 401 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: eight turnovers. You had Jade McDaniel's going one for eight 402 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: with four turnovers. By the way, his wife is an immigrant, 403 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: like you have Naz Reed going scoreless. For the first 404 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: time since twenty twenty two. The Wolves did not score 405 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: one hundred points stand for the first time in one 406 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 4: hundred and four games. That was like one of the 407 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: longest streaks of scoring one hundred points in forever, and 408 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: they did and they got eighty five. So there was 409 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: so much that was uncharacteristically bad about a team that 410 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: is scuffling that I just do think that some of 411 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: the weight of what everything was going on was weighing 412 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: on them for sure. 413 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned it's now a five game losing streak. The 414 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: rematch against Golden State is tonight. I think the last 415 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: time we talked, there's a greater sentiment all the time 416 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: that it's likely that Conley is going to do something. 417 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: The question is going to be what, how significant a move, 418 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: how seismic a move is even realistic or possible? Were 419 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: not far off now right from the from the trade deadline. 420 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: It's early feb so we're kind of getting there, So 421 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: of let me ask it this way of well before 422 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: I get to names. You know, it's interesting because sometimes 423 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: I hear from the players after and they make it 424 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: sound like they think offense has become an issue. With Rudy, 425 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: it's almost always he emphasizes defense. He thinks that's where 426 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: this team is failing right now. The bench numbers, especially 427 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: as you said, what nods is not a factor speak 428 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: for themselves. 429 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: So is. 430 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: There a common denominator to what you have seen through 431 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: this five game losing streak that you believe a single 432 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: item that might be most likely to get the attention 433 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: of Tim Conley. 434 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Dan, that there's two things that really 435 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 4: do rise above the rest when you look at the 436 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: struggles that the team is facing right now, and one 437 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: is that the defensive intensity and consistency has not been 438 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 4: there in the same way that it was when they 439 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: were seventeen and six in that stretch after Thanksgiving, which 440 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: was the best stretch, best record in the league over 441 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: that sample size. So the defense has slipped dramatically for sure. Also, 442 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 4: the bench scoring has just absolutely fallen off a cliff. 443 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: Mike Conley, bon Tiland, Jalen Clark. You know, none of 444 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: these guys are are giving them any kind of production 445 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: from a point perspective off the bench every single night, 446 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: and so I believe that the easier thing to address 447 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 4: will be the bench scoring. I think that there are 448 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 4: guys that are available out there that for prices that 449 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: Tim Connolly can afford to bring someone in to help 450 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: that out. Whether it is Kobe White, I would as 451 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: soon move, you know, Trad Jones. There's just a lot 452 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: of guys that are get a bowl to address it. 453 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 4: I think that the if I were him Dan, I 454 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 4: would say I would try to address that and then 455 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: just believe that maybe some new energy, maybe a little 456 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: rest at the ultra break and everything else will help 457 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: this team find another gear defensively that has been missing 458 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: for a little while, and so I think it's easier 459 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: to just expect them to play better defensively, whereas I 460 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: think some of the limitations on the bench scoring are 461 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: more endemic to who they are, and that's and require 462 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: more of a change. 463 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Who intrigues you, Johnny Athletics the most. 464 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: You know, I do like. I like the I was 465 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: starting to kind of goes cold on Kobe White, but 466 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: that's when I thought that it would take Dante de 467 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: Vincenzo to get him. I like the idea of Kobe 468 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: White coming off the bench for this team if it 469 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: is something of a you know, whether it's Conley and 470 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: Dillingham or Dillingham Shannon Miller, like some sort of combination 471 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: of guys that either are not playing or not playing 472 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: very effectively right now. I think that he handles the 473 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: ball well enough. I think that he is just a 474 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: reliable scorer, Like he's not going to be great every 475 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: single night, but when he comes in, he can knock 476 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 4: down shots, and he can get to the rim and 477 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: manufacture offense. And so I don't even know necessarily that 478 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: you would see Kobe White in the game at the 479 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: end of games a ton, because I do just like 480 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: the way that the starting lineup generally plays together outside 481 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: of these last four or five games. But I think 482 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: that White, just as a at what he represents, I 483 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: think fills a lot of what the Timberwolves need. Right. 484 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now, by definition, if you acquire him, are 485 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: you obligated? Are you saying you're going to keep him 486 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: and that you're willing to pay him? 487 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: So, I mean I think that there's a couple of 488 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: ways you can look at this, Dan. I mean, you 489 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: probably would like to keep him because you want it's 490 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 4: not just about signing him. It's about being able to 491 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: have that salary slot available going forward. And so you 492 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: sign him to a new deal, even if you don't 493 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: plan on having him for the next four years, you 494 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: at least have that piece to move around. If you 495 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: lose him, they're not going to have a twenty million 496 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: dollar hole to spend because they're still over the luxury 497 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: tax as it is, and so it's complicated that way. 498 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: But so you could say, yeah, we really want to 499 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: try to get a deal done. But I also don't 500 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: think that it's essential that you do keep him. You know, 501 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: if he is just a rental and then he goes 502 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: and gets a huge deal somewhere else that you can't afford. 503 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: But as long as he gives you three months of 504 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: really good play and helps you in the playoffs, and 505 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: and and both, there's a team that feels like it 506 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: can be a contender when they have everything going in 507 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: the right direction, I think it would be worth it. 508 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Can Can you get him as cheaply as you're suggesting? 509 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: No? I probably not, Probably not, Dan. That's the question, 510 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: the one the one thing that that may contribute to 511 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: depressing his market value a little bit if he has 512 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: gone through some injuries lately, and and there still is 513 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: some question about well he is he a point guard? 514 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: Is the shooting guard? Where does exactly fit? Is he 515 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: a starter on a really good team? And so maybe 516 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: that would would would tamp things down a little bit. 517 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: But more than likely, there are more teams this off 518 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: season with spending power than there were last off season, 519 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: and so there is a higher risk that he would 520 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 4: be able to blow up the market and leave and 521 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: that you wouldn't get him on some really favorable deal. 522 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't think it's impossible, but I think it's probably unlikely. 523 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: Is it. 524 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Is it your sense that it's likely that if something 525 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: is going to happen, it will probably go right to 526 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: the deadline, or do you think there's reason to believe 527 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: that could happen tomorrow. 528 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it could happen tomorrow, Dan, it could happen 529 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 4: three days from now. But from what I in talking 530 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: to people around the league, not just with the Wolves, 531 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: but you know, scouts and executives around the league about 532 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 4: the market, one thing that is really holding things up 533 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: right now is Giannis and so things are so bad 534 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee that sort of everyone in the league is 535 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 4: waiting to see if he hits the ejection button, and 536 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: if he does, every team in the league, including the Timberwolves, 537 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: is going to try to be in on it. And 538 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: no team wants to spend any capital right now on 539 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: a role player kind of a you know, a decent 540 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: piece if it could compromise them getting into the Yanni 541 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: sweepstakes last year. At this time, Dan, there is already 542 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: I think like twenty five trades done. Wow here there's 543 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: been one. Yeah, there's been one. So the whole market 544 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: is just stuck right now, and I think everyone's waiting 545 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: for you, honest which means that it likely will go closer, 546 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: much closer to the deadline before something really materialized. 547 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: Is everybody healthy for tonight as far as we know, Yeah. 548 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's healthy for tonight except for Shannon, and he's 549 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: been out for a long time. But I think everyone's 550 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: gonna play. And I think Dan, that Steph Curry is 551 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: gonna play. He hasn't been playing back to back a lot, 552 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: but there's a lot of optimism that he is going 553 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: to play as well. So we'll see how that works out. 554 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Well. 555 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: He and because he had he didn't have to play 556 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: that many minutes yesterday, didn't he get to show he. 557 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 4: Scored like twenty seven or twenty eights. Honestly, Dan, I 558 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: don't think he was moving that well. Like he did 559 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: not look comfortable out there. He still scored twenty six points. 560 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: He's still an unbelievable player, but he just didn't look 561 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: like the staff that were you've seen. And so I 562 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: don't know how they'll play that, but they clearly were 563 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: trying to win that one yesterday because they played Al 564 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: Horford and d Anthony Maultains either one to play tonight, 565 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: and so we'll see how that goes. But but yeah, 566 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: I mean, any Steph is dangerous, but I'm not sure 567 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: what we're gonna. 568 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: Get tonight at him well, and he again I noticed 569 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: on his way out, I thought he left early for 570 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: the locker room, and on the way out he did 571 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: a bunch of autographs. I mean, you're you're you know, 572 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you're around a lot of players in this league. There 573 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: isn't another guy on the road who know concentrates so 574 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: consistently on Okay, I got a roll to fulfill and 575 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it right. 576 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: It amazes me. 577 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: It's a it's it's super admirable to watch him do it, Dan, 578 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: because he also is one of those guys who not 579 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 4: just signing autographs, not just kind of mingling with fans, 580 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: not just showing up night after night as he really 581 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: wants to do for for fans, but he has also 582 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 4: kind of scheduled his pregame warm ups after fans are 583 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 4: let into the building. There are some superstars that will 584 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 4: do their warm ups before fans get in, so they 585 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 4: just don't deal with all the hoopla. Steph is out 586 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 4: there when everyone is there, so they we all get 587 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: to watch him shift, they all get him watch him 588 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: go through it and he just really understands that he 589 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: is a statesman for the league, and it's it's I mean, 590 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: he's just one of one in terms of ambassador and 591 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: the way that he goes about his business. I can't 592 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: speak high. 593 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: Enough about him. 594 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Let's also talk with Johnny Athletic of course joining us. 595 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: We're going to replay significant portions of our interview with 596 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Andy Luger from yesterday a little later in the show. 597 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: Working on a couple of other things as well. The 598 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your view if you have any, 599 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: and if you don't, that's okay too, it's legal. But 600 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards after the game, there was a quote that's 601 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: getting some attention online having to do with what the 602 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: last the trauma of the last several days. You could 603 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: say it goes longer than that, actually, but after the 604 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: most recent killing, man, I just love Minnesota all the 605 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: love and support they showed me. Some behind them, I'm 606 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: behind whatever they with. I don't really have social media, 607 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: so I'm not in tune with everything I've heard about 608 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: the stuff going on. Me and my family are definitely 609 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: praying for everyone now that we're it's the business that 610 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: we live in the world and we live in now, 611 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: which is I'm gonna I'm going to evaluate what he 612 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: said if it was specific enough, regardless of what the 613 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: question was, if it was what I want to hear 614 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards say, because I believe this is what he 615 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: needs to say. And this is not a new subject 616 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: for me because it goes back it all, It goes 617 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: all the way back to the to the war in 618 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: I Rock. 619 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: For God's sake. 620 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: This notion that we get to decide what athletes say, 621 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: how far they go, whether and we don't even seem 622 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: to care. It's almost like we would rather have fake 623 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: sincerity if it's the right words, as opposed to here's 624 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: how far I'm willing to go the particular athlete. Maybe 625 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't know as much as I should, Maybe I 626 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: don't pay as much attention as I should. But that's 627 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: the new more I should say, the new what's the 628 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: word debate that's broken out online is. 629 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: Nice to Anthony Edwards to care? 630 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: That's the sentiment from some people, and I, for the 631 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: life of me, don't understand it. 632 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: What do you make of it? 633 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this, Danlake, and I think like people 634 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 4: in like listening to me over the years and read 635 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 4: my coverage probably know sort of which way I lean 636 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 4: on a lot of these things. But I'll say in general, 637 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: as a journalist, if an athlete wants to share his 638 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 4: views on something going on that is important to him 639 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: outside of basketball, I'm all ears for. I want to 640 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 4: engage with him. I want to listen to what's important 641 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: to him on any subject in whatever way he feels, 642 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: right left, whatever you want to say. If he wants 643 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: to do that, I'm happy to be there and to 644 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: relay his thoughts, to ask him about it and prod them, 645 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: and and and and and let fans, you know, kind 646 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 4: of behind the curtain on what what this guy thinks 647 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: about and what's in his heart in his mind as 648 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 4: he's going about his his daily life. And so those 649 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 4: are great. I mean, we've seen plenty of them, Karl 650 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: Anthony Towns. We've seen lots of guys speak very eloquently 651 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 4: and difficult moments about things U and I understand fans 652 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: who are in the middle of this really harrowing time 653 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: that we are in right now, living in this city 654 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: and this is my city. I'm from here, and and 655 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: wanting the athletes that they cheer for to be invested 656 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 4: in it. With them, I get that under I understand it. 657 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 4: But with Anthony Edwards and with several others, it is 658 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 4: clear that either they are a not the socially conscious type, 659 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 4: which I don't think Anthony and Edwards is he did 660 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 4: not want to talk about it last night before he 661 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: was asked, and or be It's just like they're there. 662 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 4: They don't don't want to go out on that limb 663 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: because they don't want to say the wrong thing and 664 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 4: get killed for it on social media. And so At 665 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 4: is clearly in that camp. He's he does not feel 666 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 4: comfortable relaying that stuff, for speaking intelligently about that stuff, 667 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 4: and it doesn't seem to be incredibly important to him. 668 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be one to judge that. I'm 669 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 4: not going to be one that forces him to say 670 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: anything and demands that he speak for, you know, people 671 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 4: who are out there suffering right now and and and 672 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 4: want some sort of kind of beacon in the sports community. 673 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 4: He is not that guy. If he tried to be 674 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: that guy, I think it would fall flat. And and 675 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 4: I'm just I can't be mad at him for it. 676 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 4: That's not his thing. It's a very difficult thing to do. 677 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 4: And it's a very tough line to walk sometimes and 678 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: if you're if you're going to do it, your heart 679 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: better be all the way in it, and and his isn't. 680 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 4: And so I'm not I'm not going to judge that 681 00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 4: one way or it is. 682 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. 683 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: And what strikes me to about it is for the 684 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: people who have evaluated him and are disappointed by him, 685 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: it's the truth is that they need to be more 686 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: honest with themselves. They're not asking him to speak, They're 687 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: asking him to say exactly what they think he should say. 688 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: And that's what I object to as well, because there 689 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: are a million ways he could go in a million 690 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: directions that one could go. But that's basically what you're 691 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: telling him. And I'm disappointed that you don't feel about 692 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: this or articulate this exactly the same way I articulate 693 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: this to my friends. And there's not a lot of 694 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: freedom associated with that. And look, I go all the 695 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: way back to the going way back to the Robert 696 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: Smith days. I like you love it when athletes want 697 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff because there is all sorts 698 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: of cross pollination in places where politics and sports do 699 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: end up mingling, whether we want to admit it or not. 700 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 2: And so I'll listen to it all day. 701 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: And I have talked about a lot of stuff, for 702 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: political stuff, race related things with Robert Smith, but I 703 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: don't get the idea because the way the system is 704 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: set up, as you know, part of that hesitation is, well, 705 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: if I say the wrong thing, I'm done or I'm 706 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna be dealing, I'm gonna be digging out of that 707 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: hole for a week and a half. And that's never 708 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: considered by the people who are pounding their fists and saying, 709 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: where is Anthony Edwards on this issue? 710 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: He should be the leader of the team. 711 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: He should be leading us on this issue, as if 712 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: whatever he says is gonna, like, I don't know, like 713 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: make the difference between success and failure and how we 714 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: go forward on the sort of crisis that we're dealing with, 715 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: which in itself to me is a bit overwrought. 716 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like I do, like I understand that 717 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 4: the masses right now who feel like we are being invaded, Yes, 718 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 4: that we are being kind of like put to the 719 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 4: test every single day, and it literally is that we've 720 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 4: seen life and death in some circumstances can I understand 721 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 4: them saying we need as much help as we can get, 722 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 4: We need as much high profile people as as can 723 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: as can do it and are willing to do it, 724 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 4: to be out there kind of taking our message to 725 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 4: the masses, raising awareness. I understand all of that, but 726 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 4: I can tell those people who want Anthony Edwards to 727 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 4: do that he is not the guy you want. He 728 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 4: is not the vehicle you want, because you want people 729 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 4: who can speak with passion, with conviction, with belief on 730 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: your side, and he and does not have that in 731 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: this situation. And so he may never have it or 732 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 4: maybe but now at this season of his life, he's 733 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 4: not there. He is not going to be the one 734 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 4: to bring that fight for you, and so you just 735 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: have to find find it elsewhere. 736 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: Let me give you an example. So let me give 737 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: you an example. What you know. 738 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: But you know him much better than I do. Karl 739 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns tweet. What is happening in the Twin Cities 740 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: and the Great North Star State is heartbreaking to witness. 741 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: These events have cost lives and shaken families, and we 742 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: must call for accountability, transparency and protections for all people. 743 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: This moment demands that we reflect honestly on what our 744 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: values truly are. My thoughts, prayers, and deepest condolences are 745 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: with the families of Rene Good and Alex Pretty I 746 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: stand with the people of Minnesota. Terrific statement and more 747 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: of what you're talking about, because that's just more in 748 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: his wheelhouse. 749 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: Correct. 750 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 4: Yes, that's that's who he is as a person, and 751 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 4: that's who he's always been. But I think that's even 752 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 4: who he's been more as he's gotten old, yes, exactly, 753 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 4: And he's just gotten he's gotten to understand the world 754 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 4: around him more. He's connected with people, and so I 755 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: just do think that he is more prepared and he 756 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 4: is more willing to educate himself. Fun and you think 757 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: about these things and and really dive into it. That 758 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 4: is not what Aunt wants to do right now, and 759 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 4: so asking him to do it is just going to 760 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 4: be You're gonna end up being disappointed. Now, you can 761 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 4: be disappointed as well. You can say that, of course, 762 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 4: I should say, man, Aunt, you make three hundred million dollars, 763 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 4: you've been you've been here for six years. I really 764 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: want more on you. But but that's that's your right. 765 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: But it's also like you, there can be no demands 766 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: made on him, and again, I just think that unless 767 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 4: you understand who he is, who Kad is like that, 768 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 4: you got to you got to pick the right messengers 769 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 4: or else it's just not going to work out for you. 770 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: Johnny athletic with us. 771 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: Let's finish up real quick with a couple of football 772 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: related items. You will know that Sam Darnold is in 773 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You think are familiar with the fact 774 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: that he was with US as recently as last season. 775 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: It's it's factual that most people were not belling against 776 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: the notion of letting him go last year. But it's 777 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: still a nightmarish scenario, I think for the Vikings because 778 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: what it accentuates isn't so much that he got to 779 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: that next level past the regular season, but that we 780 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: still have nothing established here in his stead. 781 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: If we did, then I don't think it'll be a bit. 782 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: It would be as big a deal that he has 783 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: probably the game of his life, certainly the game of 784 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: his season to reach the Super Bowl. 785 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: But that's all part of this story. 786 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: I think that that, I don't doubt does make it 787 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: painful for Vikings fans. So I think we're kind of 788 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: counting on he'll implode in the postseason, he'll he'll show 789 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: his true colors, and we will and to that extent 790 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: be vindicated that we didn't find a way to keep 791 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: him even for one seasons as a franchise kind of 792 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback. 793 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, I do really believe that there's a lot 794 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 4: of Vikings fans who were waiting with baited breaths for 795 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 4: him to fall flast. They see this is what it was, 796 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 4: right and then they could rationalize what has happened. And 797 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 4: I will say I am of the mind and I 798 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 4: was back then. I understood the decision to move on 799 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 4: from Sam Donald in that moment. I understood you invested 800 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 4: in JJ McCarthy, the idea of having a quarterback on 801 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 4: his rookie contract and what that does and what it 802 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 4: makes available for you with team building around him. It 803 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 4: all made sense. With Sam Donald not playing well at 804 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 4: Detroit and the Rams in the playoffs, like, all of 805 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: that made sense. But this is also we're judging this 806 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 4: as a results over process in a way, because it's 807 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 4: a results oriented business exactly. And at the end of 808 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 4: the day, Sam Donald in the biggest spot of this 809 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 4: season for the Seattle Seahawks, even after it was underwhelming 810 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 4: for a lot of the season, including last week. He 811 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 4: was not the reason that they were in the NFC 812 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 4: Title Game, and he's the reason they're in the Super 813 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 4: Bowl now. And you have to look at that and say, man, 814 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 4: if the Vikings did have of that this year, with 815 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: that defense, with the pieces around him, with Kevin O'Connell, 816 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: would this season have looked a lot different. And I 817 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: think it's impossible to say no, because when you make 818 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 4: the move you did with McCarthy, you have to trust 819 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: that the decision makers know, Hey, this kid's ready. We're 820 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 4: going to be good, We're going to try to contend, 821 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 4: and he's going to be right there. He wasn't and 822 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 4: there's a lot of things around him that we're not 823 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 4: ready either, including maybe Kevin O'Connell in terms of working 824 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 4: with McCarthy. But all of it just showed that it 825 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: wasn't ready and it was a mistake at the end 826 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 4: of the day. There's no other way to say it 827 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 4: than it was a mistake. Yeah, right now to move 828 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 4: on from Sam and go with JJ McCarty. 829 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time. We will talk to you soon. 830 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 4: Thanks Johnny, all right, Thanks Dan. 831 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: John Krasinski on his way. If he's not already there 832 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: target center tonight because the Wolves are playing for the 833 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: second consecutive night against the Golden State Warriors. The Saturday 834 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: game got moved to yesterday. I think tonight's game is 835 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: regular time. I'm guessing just past seven o'clock as well. 836 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: Bratch on Bryan kfan text line is open. I do 837 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: have when we come back, though A I guess i'd 838 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: call it some breaking ice related news. 839 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 2: Stay tuned.