1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Broncos Country Tonight coming up the top of the hour, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Benjamin was in with Mandy Connell. Who's up on the 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: show tonight. Oh, Grant Smith, It's gonna be a lot 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: of fun. It's Nick gonna be with you, Yes, sir, 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: all right, looking forward to that. So Grant and Nick 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: are gonna take you through the night on Broncos Country Tonight. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Earlier in the program, we've covered a lot of topics. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Alex Pelchewski signing a two year contract extension, DJ Moore 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: getting traded to the Buffalo Bills. We talked about cam 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Jordan von Miller. 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So 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to get your take on 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: this yet, Rick, because it's the first time I've seen 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: you here in a couple of weeks. 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: We were out of the combine last week. 20 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: What did you think about the Davis Webb being named 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator news. 22 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: I remember you and I talked about this, oh maybe 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: a month ago, and I thought reading the tea leaves 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: that there was at least a fifty fifty chance this 25 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: would happen based on what Sean Payton himself said, where 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: he insinuated he's kind of losing it, he's a little 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: slower than he used to be, and that was what 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: about two thirds of the way through the season. I 29 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: think he said that, and so I wasn't shocked like 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: some people were. I love the idea. I think it's 31 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: great to get a fresh approach, a fresh look at this. 32 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: He obviously has a great relationship with bo Nicks. He 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: was going to get a job somewhere else. I think 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: they did the right thing, and I give Sean Payton 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: a lot of credit for passing the baton to Davis Webb. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of guys at his level of 37 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: the game and his experience and a Super Bowl winner 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't do that so readily. So I give him 39 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: credit for doing that, and I am excited about where 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: this could go. 41 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to as well, especially because you're building 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: off of a lot of success from last year. Here's 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: what our guy, Benda Nuschi was on DMVR earlier this 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: week said about why he thinks things will be better 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: with Dave's web as offensive coordinator. 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: First things first, I think the tempo is just going 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 2: to be different. 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: The play is going to have to come in faster, 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: the offense is going to break the huddle faster. I 50 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: think you're going to see bo having some more time 51 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: to get to the line of scrimmage, operate and kind 52 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: of get guys in the right spot. 53 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: I think so. 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: And this is not a knock against Sean at all, 55 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: but some of his play calls are very wordy. And 56 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: when you have wordy play calls mixed with trying to 57 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: jump formations every single play from eleven to personnel to 58 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: thirteen to twenty two, you've only got twenty five seconds 59 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: on the shot clock. And I think sometimes simplifying it 60 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: sometimes is the way to go. And I think you're 61 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: going to see a noticeable difference just in terms of 62 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: the tempo and just the speed that the offense. 63 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: Gets to the line of scrimmage with. What do you 64 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: think about that, Dave, I think that would be the 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: goal for sure. I do think that Sean's offense has 66 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: some really wordy plays. 67 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: I mean, Sean anybody who is sort of. 68 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 5: Studied or tried to incorporate some of the West Coast philosophy. 69 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: Those those play calls are going to be going to 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: be long because they basically tell everybody what they're doing 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 5: on every single play, and individual players will listen for 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: the phrases or the terms that relate to their position. 73 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Quarterback has to hear all of it, get it out. 74 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: Know exactly what he's doing, but but receivers are listening 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: for two or three or four or five different terms 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: based on whatever the play call is. And so yeah, 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: I think temple is going to be really important. I 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 5: do think there were times last year that they were 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: they were slow getting out of the huddle. Whether the 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: play was slow getting in or the play was slow 81 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 5: being delivered, who knows. I think maybe a combination of both. 82 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: And I think Sean acknowledged that, hey, I got to 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 5: be better at times getting the play in. So it's 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 5: it's not going to be linear in terms of the 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: tension of the offense. You're playing a much tougher schedule. 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: But I do think Davis Webb will bring kind of 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: a fresh approach, and I think that's good given who's 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: playing quarterback. 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: For the Broncos. So a question for you guys. I'm 90 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: sure you've talked about this a lot already, but I'm curious. 91 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: Do you think that when Sean Payton had his ended 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: the year evaluation, like Penner maybe nudged him a little 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: bit like, hey, you know what, it might be time 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: to take a look at doing this. We speculated on it. 95 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: I was told no, okay, but that's what I was wondering. 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't, you know, I can't. I 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: haven't confirmed that. 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: I think either way, you don't want it out there probably. 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: I mean, because of who Sean Payton is and what 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: he's been over the course of his career. You sell 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: it yourself is you don't see this very often? You 102 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: want either way to frame it as Sean's decision. 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Sean is passing the baton, if you will not. 104 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: I was told I have to do this, and he 105 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: has stand up in front of everybody and tell everybody, well, 106 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: ownership is pressuring me, so I got to make this move. 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: He wants to be able to say no, no, no. I 108 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: think this makes us better. He's as sending coach. I 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: think he fits really well with what we're trying to do. 110 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: He makes us better. We are going to be a 111 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: better operating offense. You know. 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: The one thing that was very interesting to me. 113 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's multiple things that have been sort of 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: pointed out in that, but he was talking about the 115 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: lengthy play calls for Sean. Isn't the offense going to 116 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: be the same, Dave, Maybe you can explain that to me, 117 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: because it's really going to be that much different if 118 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: it's Sewn's offense from a play calling, from a what 119 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: he's repeating to bow to repeat in the huddle. 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 5: No, I think the bones of the offense will be 121 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: the same, the belief. But anytime you anytime you switch 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 5: play callers, that play caller's personality factors into what calls 123 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 5: he's going to make, and there may be suggestions on 124 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 5: some of the longer calls. Hey, listen, this is can 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: we can we come up with three words that will 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 5: tell all of our guys exactly what this twelve word 127 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 5: play call is. So I think that's that's part of 128 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: what the off season is for. They'll do a deep 129 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 5: dive on their offense, what they want to get into 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 5: and of course with free agency in the draft, who 131 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: who is going to be supplementing the roster. What do 132 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: they look like? But I think, yeah, I think the 133 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 5: offense will the structure of the offense, the bones of 134 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 5: the offense I used that term before, will remain the same, 135 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: but I think there'll be there'll be some differences too. 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: And I think that the point there is, as Davis 137 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: is thinking about the next play call and he's getting 138 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: ready for the next play call, he's not going to 139 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: be substituting in. That's kind of what Ben Denuci's saying there. 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: He's like, he's not going to be substituting in. Okay, 141 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Now I want to go twelve personnel. We got to 142 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: bring the their tight end. Okay, Now I want to 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: go back to eleven personnel so we get a different 144 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: running back. 145 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: Now I want to do those kinds of things. 146 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: It feels like there's an opportunity here for Davis to 147 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: build some kinduity in structure and build some continuity in 148 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: the way they attack. You know, we were talking, gosh, 149 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: you know the day's blend. I would say this was 150 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: actually conversation with Nate Jackson last week, and he says 151 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: the thing that he's looking forward to the most is 152 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: more of a purpose to the design of it, not 153 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: like specifically with the run game. You're not just running 154 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: to run. You're not running just to tell people that 155 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: you might run. You're running to set things up. You're 156 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: running to with purpose. Is the word that Nate Jackson 157 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: used last week. 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: I think that's true. 159 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's true that that's what makes 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: I think a good play action game. The play action 161 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: has to has to be a derivative of your run game. 162 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: And you see, and we've seen this in the NFL, 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: which just perplexes me. I just don't understand it when 164 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 5: you see teams that'll get into a play pass situation 165 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: and it's off a run scheme that they haven't run 166 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: before in the game. So I think one of the 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: really good things that Mike Shanan did during his tenure, 168 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: and he did plenty, he married that play action game 169 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 5: off the running game, off inside zone and outside zone. 170 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 5: Now I'd have to go back and look, I you know, 171 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 5: just my memory calling every game last year for the Broncos, 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if they ran a lot of play 173 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: pass off of outside zone look or even inside zone look. 174 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: And I wouldn't be surprised really if bo Nicks is 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: under center, maybe a little bit more in the upcoming 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: season than he was before, But. 177 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you. I mean, if you're going to 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: have a good. 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 5: Play action pass, you have to affect the second level 180 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 5: of the defense. And the way you do that is 181 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: you do it with offensive linemen and you do it 182 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: with great play fakes. But those fakes have to at 183 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 5: least initially make that linebacker and the second level defenders 184 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 5: think this is a run and get them to react. 185 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: The reaction is about a step. 186 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: And a half, but that's enough in the NFL for 187 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: you to be able to get to where you want 188 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: to get to. 189 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: So Dave, would it be an advantage that the league 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have a book on Davis Web as of now, 191 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: but that maybe a. 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: Little built them a bit maybe a little bit early. 193 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: I mean, they've got a book on the Broncos offense, right. 194 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 5: I think I think there will be an advantage for 195 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: Davis in the first three or four games of the season. 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: You know, once you get past a quarter pretty much 197 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: a quarter. 198 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: Of the season, and you've got that much tape to 199 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: go back and study, then all good coaches, good coaches, 200 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 5: what have you, you sort of you start to develop tendencies, 201 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: and then you during the week, you have people that 202 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: will chart those and you've got to print out and Okay, 203 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: here's what we've done in first and ten. We've thrown 204 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: the ball, you know, fifty seven percent of the time whatever, 205 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 5: And so you're trying then from that point on, you're 206 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 5: trying to break those tendencies. You know what they are 207 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: because you've just been told in the printout. So it's 208 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 5: a it's a game of cat and mouse. But yes, 209 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 5: I think for the first four weeks, I think the 210 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: Broncos offense will be relatively unknown with respect to what 211 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: Davis Webb likes to call in certain situations, which is 212 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: a plus. 213 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: I think I'm looking forward to I mean multi of 214 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: things here. 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I want to see how aggressive he's going to be, 216 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, or or again, as we're talking about, you know, 217 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: using the run to set up the pass consistent, because 218 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: they'd had these lulls last year and I don't have 219 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: to tell you, guys, because you call the games. They 220 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: have these lulls, especially in the middle of the game, 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: especially in the third quarter, and I don't know if 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you can fix that because once again, the bones of 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: what you are Dave was pointing out the bones of 224 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: what you are. But the sequencer seems like he could 225 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: have a big impact on some. 226 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: Of those lulls. And you, guys, I don't know if 227 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: you talked about this before or not, but do you 228 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: think they also looked at this as they've got this bright, 229 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: young offensive mind potentially Sean Payton's replacement. And we did 230 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: talk about that. Yeah, well, I mean, what do you 231 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: I mean, does that you think that was part of 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: this possibly? 233 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Well, so that goes back to your original question about 234 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: like the intention behind this move. And listen, we talked 235 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: about it because Mike Sando sent out of tweets he 236 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: was talking specifically about Russell Wilson because we played with 237 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson sound from the other day where he 238 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: was firing back a Sean and he quote tweeted it 239 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: and said, it's really weird for me because you see 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the greats, the great play callers of this game, and 241 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned Sean McVay and Andy Reid and and you 242 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan with the Shanahans, he said, and he 243 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: went on and on, and he said, you never see 244 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: them give a play calling and you can't even imagine 245 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: them ever wanting to give up play calling. So he said, 246 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: this is a very interesting situation because here you have 247 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Sean with two years left on his contract, and again, 248 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're taking too big of a 249 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: leap to talk about the future, understanding that you just 250 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: made a move that is unique to that kind of 251 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: play caller, with that kind of history. 252 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: The timing seems to be worked out perfectly. Yeah, two 253 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: years of Davis Webb and assuming he's going to be 254 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: brilliant calling plays, that that could work out for them 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: and well, and he's certainly gonna work out for he's 256 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: not going to coach forever as much as he loves it. 257 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: I think he's talked about this before too, Like hasn't 258 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: he mentioned like, I don't know how long I'm going 259 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: to be doing this. He said some things this year. 260 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: I thought we're pretty candid for him because everything he 261 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: says is very calculated. He didn't say things that he 262 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: doesn't mean to say, and I just kind of felt 263 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: like this this was coming. Yeah, I think I agree 264 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: with you that he's very calculated. I just didn't get that. 265 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 5: I didn't get that sense from him. But I think 266 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: Rick's right in terms of sooner than later, you're gonna 267 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: have to and you know time's going to catch up 268 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: with and somebody else is going to come in and 269 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: do the job. I think this was just a situation 270 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: where they didn't want to lose Davis web I think 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: Davis Webb is really connected to Bonnicks in a good way. 272 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 5: Now that relationship is what it has been in the past, 273 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: I think will change in the future because now he's 274 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator. 275 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: Right He's the guy calling the place so. 276 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 5: As opposed to the quarterback coach and sort of the 277 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: buffer between the star quarterback and the head coach. So 278 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 5: I think that's going to be an interesting dynamic for 279 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 5: us to watch. But I think it just boiled down 280 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: to they have a good feel about Davis web and 281 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: didn't want to lose him, and Sean, I think was 282 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 5: at the point of his career where he said, Okay, 283 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 5: you know what, maybe this is the perfect fit. Because 284 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 5: I do believe this. I think Sean genuinely likes and 285 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 5: respects the ability of Davis web I think he feels 286 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 5: like this is a bright young guy. So everything considered 287 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 5: good time to make the move. 288 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Lebroncos just official announced the Palchowski resigning, and by the way, 289 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I found out earlier in the show that there's other 290 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Palschowski's in the world, including a wrestler up in Canada. 291 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: That was that was something days try to tell you, right, 292 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know, well, it's not that I didn't 293 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: believe it, it's just what I said, I want to 294 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: talk about the Palschowski signing. 295 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: Dave was like, well, you got to be more specific, 296 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: you know. 297 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm a big Bruno Polwski, Fandy. 298 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Polki's you know, he went into the Canadian. 299 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: Wrestler Petrie Petrie. I can't think of the grandfather's name, but. 300 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you have to be related well out there, 301 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: I know. 302 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, one of these days, dudes, sure, one of 303 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: these days we'll get alex on and we'll ask him, like, 304 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: are you related to the wrestlers the wrestling family. 305 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised up in Canada at least a 306 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: distant cousin. 307 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Well, so they announced they announced this signing, and we 308 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: speculated earlier in the show. I don't kind of bring 309 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: it back here for a couple of moments at the 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour about what it could ultimately mean 311 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: now again, I really I think I come down on 312 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: the side of if you can save nine million to 313 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: the cap, Like if you just look at this from 314 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: a business standpoint and you think Alex Pelchwski can be 315 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: a left guard for you right now, which he showed 316 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: you the ability to do that. That's money that you 317 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: can spend and your all in maneuvers that you're trying 318 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: to do right now, couldn't it. 319 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 5: If your talking about Ben Powers, Yes, we talked about 320 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: it earlier. 321 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised. 322 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I would be surprised if they don't 323 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: sit down and try to restructure that deal now again. 324 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 5: Then it becomes a little bit of a kind of 325 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: a game of poker. 326 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, Ben Powers and his agent. Do you guys 327 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: like it here? 328 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: Do you think that if you say no, we're not 329 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 5: going to restructure and they release you, let's just say, 330 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: let's just play that game. Do we think that there 331 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 5: will be three or four teams out there that will 332 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: be interested in bidding for your services and you'll be 333 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: able to make exactly what you were scheduled to make 334 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: this year or maybe more. You know, I don't know 335 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: that that necessarily would be true at this point of 336 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: Ben's career. 337 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 338 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 5: But I don't think if I had to guess, and 339 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: it is a guess, Ben Powers will not be playing 340 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: for the Broncos this year on his current deal. That deal, 341 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: if he's here, that deal will be restructured. Or if 342 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: they go to him and he just says, Nope, I'm 343 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: not going to do it, then the Broncos have a 344 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: tough decision to make. He is like, I think the 345 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 5: cap is seventeen or eighteen. 346 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, Yeah, it's wean, Yeah, seventeen, and then 347 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: the dead cap would be around nine. 348 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty nine years old. 349 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: So you really could do a restructure and kick this 350 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: thing out for a couple of years if you wanted to. 351 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos could, right, I mean clearly. I 352 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: mean they've done that with Michael Glinch you already a 353 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: couple of times. 354 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Mike, Mike wanted to stay here, 355 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: right and again, as I said, it gets back into 356 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a crapshoot if if you think, like, hey, 357 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I mean, you know, Ben's coming off 358 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: an injury he missed, he missed some time this year, 359 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: it's hard to find quality offensive lineman? 360 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 5: Are there teams right now? And that's what his agent 361 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: gets paid for? So determined? Are there teams out there 362 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: that are desperately looking for offensive lineman? 363 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: And who are they? Are they? Are they lousy teams? 364 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Are they crappy teams? 365 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: Well? 366 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: Then do you do? You want to go there for 367 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 5: an extra four or five mins? And then all those 368 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 5: things factor in. 369 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: But in a trade, what do you think that he 370 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: would be just for fun NFL draft like a draft pick? 371 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: What would be the trade comp on the final year 372 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: of his contract? 373 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say at twenty nine years of age 374 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: starting Keller left guard. Yeah, I'd say probably a four 375 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: fourth rounds. 376 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say five. Maybe, Yeah, I was gonna say fifth. 377 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: You can get a fourth. I'd probably do that deal 378 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: right now. 379 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe you couldn't get a four. I 380 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: don't know. It's like, what do you want to sell 381 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: your house for? Well, I want to sell my house 382 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: for seven hundred and ten thousand. Well that's fine, but 383 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 5: your top bid is four hundred and seventy five. I know, 384 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 5: but you asked me I want to sell it for 385 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 5: seven ten I know, but nobody wants to buy it 386 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: for seven ten. 387 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: Therefore your house is worth four ninety five. I'm it 388 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: to hold out for seven ten. Yeah, I mean, if 389 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: that's right, if you're asking me, there you go. So 390 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: so I don't know, but. 391 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: To your point, and we're all on the same page, 392 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: which is a nice moment. 393 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: And it does effect even though they signed Paul Chesky. 394 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: If you make a move on Powers, whatever kind of move, 395 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: and he's not here all of a sudden, it does 396 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: affect the depth of your offensive line. So that's who 397 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: do you have behind Paul Cesky? 398 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 5: And the Broncos would know if they've got somebody kind 399 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 5: of in the pipeline, like you know what, this young guy, 400 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 5: I really do like him. I mean, Frank Crumb is 401 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: a tackle more so so. And they guard Gulo retired, right, 402 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: did he really? I thought he didn't. 403 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: I read something when I was in Mexico I was 404 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: I didn't see that. 405 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 5: But I start wondering about him. I was dodging, dodging 406 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 5: the cartel, so I might have I might have. 407 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: Well that's a pretty good excuse you got there. I 408 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: might have that wrong. He was injured. I was he 409 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: was injured. I didn't see him. Maybe I saw one 410 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: of those AI generated stories. Did he played more than 411 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 2: one physician? I don't. I don't know. 412 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: I don't know that he's an interior, a lineman, he's 413 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 5: a center guard. So but but again the point if 414 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: you if you make move on powers, it affects the 415 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 5: depth of your team. 416 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: Do you have a guy in. 417 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 5: The pipeline and the Broncos would would certainly know that. 418 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: I just typed in Google Nick Gargiuola retired and it 419 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: says no, Nick Garduola has not retired. 420 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: Okay, good, good, good to know. Yeah, to the entire 421 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: guy Dula family, I can see Nick retired. Yeah, honey, 422 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: hit him on the phone. Hey, listen, I've killed killed 423 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: off a couple of guys on this show. 424 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 5: You remember so and so. Yeah, he died, right, died 425 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: like three years ago. He's not dead. And then he 426 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: this is years ago. We've all called the show. 427 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Oh really, I was did you put him on the air? 428 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: Lived Gold? Hey listen, if you're wrong, you just you 429 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: just gotta say I'm wrong. I screwed this thing up. 430 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: I apologize. 431 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: They were talking about the weather here theoretically get some 432 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: snow tomorrow. I'm excited about it, but I know I 433 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: was driving, and so that maybe that's why I'm you're 434 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: not coming into work in the morning. 435 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about okay, yea, it's supposed to be 436 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: a morning thing. 437 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 5: I know we need I know we need the precipitation, 438 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 5: but I know we do painful I'm never really really 439 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: excited about you know, I'm with no way conditions, and 440 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: I mean, I grew up here, but I know we 441 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: need it, so bring it on. 442 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: I've been told that you're like not a true Colorado 443 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: unless you get excited about snow. 444 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: That's just because the people want to say things to you, 445 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's true. You're kind of 446 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: a what do you call it, New Mexican New Mexican. 447 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: You're a new Mexican. Yeah, really, you know what, I 448 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: never would have thought you were a New Mexican. Yeah, yeah, 449 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: that's right. 450 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I used to you know, I'm not going to follow 451 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: that thread, but I will say I will say, yeah, 452 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: you gotta Stanard. 453 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: You know what you thinking about? How I used to. 454 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: Date a woman and her family used to tease me 455 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: about that. They're like, oh, you're you've been a New Mexican. Yeah, 456 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: they used to see that. 457 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: You see, like you girlfriend's family thought you were a Mexican. 458 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: No, they they they were from their their family was 459 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: from Mexico, and they're like, well you only like. 460 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: Right, so she said, so they would be like. 461 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh, well you only like new Mexicans, you don't like 462 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: old Mexicans. And so I was like, that's that's really offensive. 463 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not even gonna follow them. 464 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna talk to you about that flannel 465 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: stuff with. 466 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: Her, but it is. 467 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: It was back back to the thing I was gonna 468 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: say about about the weather. What was her first name, 469 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: by the way, Gina, Gino, Gina. 470 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry, I thought she said Gino. Okay, here's 471 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 5: a news story. Yeah no, that was yeah, no kidding, okay, Gina. 472 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: Anyways, but I, I personally am very excited about the weather. 473 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: I guess part of the reason I do like living 474 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: in Colorado. 475 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: But I do see a lot of Coloradoan's, Colorado's Colorados 476 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: complaining about it on Twitter. 477 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm with them right now. Oh you're with him? Yeah, okay. 478 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: I mean, we need the precipitation, but i'd just soon 479 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: it be you know, sixty tomorrow. I'm not a snow 480 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: guy either, growing up in the Midwest, and you lived 481 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: in Ohio long enough to probably have a dislike for snow. 482 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: I'll take rain. No problem with rain. In fact, they're 483 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: saying it might not be quite cold enough to really 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: snow here. Yeah, the foothills are going to get a 485 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: bunch though. Well, I'm looking forward to it. 486 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: We need a precipitation, fellas, Yes we do, Yes we do. 487 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: I was reading an article today on the MVP voting 488 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: for the NBA. 489 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: And. 490 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't I didn't think and I haven't thought that 491 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: Shay gilgris Alexander despite his wardrobe, by the way, which 492 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: is elite, that he is a runaway for the MVP. 493 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: But the voting right now, like the strawpholes, all still 494 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: have him well ahead of nicolea Jokic. 495 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: But who, I mean, when you think about it, who 496 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: other than those two would it be this year? 497 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: Who would have a case like? You know what? I 498 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: hadn't thought about him, but that dude, well who min Yama? 499 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I think has had a really good season, but he 500 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: hasn't played games, right, Yeah, and maybe he won't. 501 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: He won't qualify for that. 502 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I'll see how many games he's played so far, But 503 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: like he I thought based on just watching him play, 504 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: and they have a big game tonight against the Detroit 505 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: Detroit Detroit a liance, the Detroit Pistons. He's averaging twenty 506 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: three point four points per game, eleven point one rebounds. 507 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: But I think we'll see many games he's played. 508 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 1: He's played forty seven so far, so yeah, he can 509 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: still get to the sixty three. 510 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: Is the sixty three or sixty five? I look that up. 511 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: He's averaging three blocks per game. 512 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: No, he's dominant. 513 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: I mean, if that dude stays healthy, and I think 514 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: they're a year away from from actually maybe having the 515 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 5: ability to win the West. But they are a pain 516 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: in the app to deal with for anybody in the West. 517 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: And I think the first three times they they faced 518 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 5: the Thunder this year they won all I think it was. 519 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: I think there were three and oh early. So that 520 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: guy changes everything in a playoff series, obviously, if he 521 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: stays healthy. You're right, sixty five. I don't know why 522 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: I get thought sixty three. But what you called your girlfriend, gino, So. 523 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: You know it's been a long day, you know, maybe 524 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: it's the barometric pressure bearing down on me. Oh yeah, 525 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: think about the snow. Understandably, brain slows down a little bit. 526 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 527 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: I do we see Nicole Kic because at this point, 528 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what else he has to do, like, 529 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: other than top his own numbers, which, by the way, 530 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: he did that last year and still lost. I don't 531 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: know what hell's I don't know if he's ever gonna 532 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: win another MVP, unless I would I would think he 533 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: will unless everybody else falls off. 534 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 5: It's been five straight years that he's been either first 535 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 5: or second in the MVP balloting. 536 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 537 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 5: I think they're I think that's like Larry Bird and mate, 538 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 5: maybe Bill Russell. I'm not sure about Russell, but that 539 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 5: hasn't been done too many times. 540 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: But I would bet yes. I think I think Jokic 541 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: will win another MVP before he's done. All right, you 542 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: well back to SGA when you win the NBA title. 543 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that he would be the front runner 544 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: in the MVP, just because of that. He's the very 545 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: high profile guy when you're when you're the champ. As 546 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: far as Joker winning another one, I'm not sure. I'm 547 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: not sure they I think they've got a bit of 548 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: an issue here with this roster, and certainly the injuries 549 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: have hurt them, and we'll see how they finish down 550 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: the stretch, but I think they have to h I 551 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 2: think they need to build a better roster around him. 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: And it's a. 553 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Weird thing to say because this year felt like the 554 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: best roster he's ever. 555 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: Had and Aaron Gordon being hurt really, yeah, it's cause 556 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: of them a big problem. We talked about that earlier, 557 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: and I feel like he's like the rock. He's the 558 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: foundation of that basketball team. And I don't know if 559 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: you can count on him anymore staying healthy. I don't 560 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: think I could count on him. Hopefully he comes back 561 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: and he's strong and he's healthy, and they make a 562 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: great run in the playoffs if he does. If he's healthy, 563 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna make a great run. It's such a weird 564 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: deal here. 565 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: We're talking for a moment on MVP, because if you 566 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: take Joker out of the Nuggets team, this is is 567 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: a lottery team. 568 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: They are not. They are not. 569 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: I don't think they're a lottery team this year healthy 570 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 5: without Joker, No, I do not think they're a lot Well. 571 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: Do you think to be a playoff team. 572 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: Uh, you take. 573 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Jokers, what's the what's the well they win ten and 574 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: six without him? I just theoretically, Yeah. 575 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: So I think they could be a playing team. Yeah, yeah, 576 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: I do. Okay, like right on the cusp, But yeah, 577 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: I think. 578 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: I think you'd play in tunis more. Now, I'm assuming 579 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: that everybody's healthy, which they haven't been. This has been 580 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: just the worst season that I can remember in a 581 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: long time in terms of Nugget injuries. 582 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: Right, But I think healthy. I think it's a I 583 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: think it's a pretty good supporting cast. I really do. 584 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: I just think one sometimes with the argument on who 585 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: should win MVP, that portion really doesn't get talked about 586 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: enough because if you take women Yama, you take Joker 587 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: off their respective teams, those teams are not even close 588 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: to where they're at. Versus if you take Shae off 589 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma City. I still think they're a very good team. 590 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh for sure they are. Yeah, for sure they are. 591 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: I mean as good as Shae is offensively, the calling 592 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: card of the Thunder is what they do on defense, right, 593 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: and they've got I mean, you've got two seven footers. 594 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: Lou Dort is an excellent defender. You've got perimeter scoring 595 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: lou doors. How many wins will the like the eighth 596 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: seed have in the West, Well. 597 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: Right now, just as a marker, because you have the seven, eight, nine, 598 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: and ten. So the Suns have thirty five, the Warriors 599 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: have thirty one, and the Clippers have thirty and that 600 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: trail Bosers have thirty. 601 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 5: So that's that's right now, the seven, eight nine, So 602 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 5: you don't ten. Yeah, I think the Nuggets would would 603 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 5: surpass that for sure. 604 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: If thirty eight is close, it's very close. I mean, 605 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: there're I mean that's eight. Was that eight games difference 606 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: there with twenty to play? I guess yeah, you're right, 607 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: there would be. It'd be better than the eight. 608 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be more like the six or seven. 609 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: You're right. 610 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I didn't mean to do the 611 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: six seven thing, by the way. And see you women 612 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: will face Kansas tonight in their first matchup in the 613 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Big Twelve tournaments. That coverage starts on our sister station 614 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: six thirty k how it's six point thirty tip at 615 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: seven o'clock. My c Issue men's basketball team got a 616 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: big win last night over New Mexico. Eight straight wins. 617 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna finish their regular season on Saturday, hosting Boys 618 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: State and we gotta see him in They're gonna wrap 619 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: up the regular season on Saturday versus Umber two. 620 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Arizona covers on Kowa at eight thirty. 621 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Koe Tournament up Dates presented by Xfinity and Dave Smith 622 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Motors low prices that are hard to be in a Ramjeep, 623 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: GMC and Chevrolet. We got the numbers on Alex Peltzchewski 624 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: from Mike Cliss two years nine point five million, five 625 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: point six million guaranteed maximum value of eleven. So it 626 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: sounds like some of the structure of that has some 627 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: playtime incentives for him. 628 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it. 629 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: I mean it indicates how much they wanted the keeping yep, right, 630 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: I mean, he's you can't really say a backup right now, 631 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: is a cornerstone of the offensive line. But he's a 632 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: guy that I think they project to being, Hey, this 633 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: is the guy we want to keep. He when he 634 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: had a chance to play, he played really well. So 635 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: I say, good for he was undrafted. Good for him. 636 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 5: Man's that's the success story in the NFL. 637 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fan. You played ten games this year year. 638 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: I didn't notice a drop off. 639 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: It'd be interesting too, because it's a two year deal. 640 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: I imagine he's going to play not only the two years, 641 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: but you look to potentially extend him even beyond that, 642 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: whether he's a rotational guy, ends up starting for your 643 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: left guard, or even by next year when maybe you're 644 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: looking for some caps save he's a right tackle, because 645 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: that sure is a topic we'll probably get into after 646 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: the season. So as a versatility, Rick, you're the best. 647 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun as always. 648 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: You know what, there's some rumors out there that Cal 649 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: State Bakersfield is changing their name from the road Runners 650 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: to the Pimps squeat unverified. Rumors, unverified, but we'll keep 651 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: an eye on that one. We will definitely do that. 652 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: Grant appreciate you as well. 653 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna Nate Jackson is studio with us tomorrow, but 654 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: BCT coming up next