1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from dou Wor Now more of 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: the Wor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minty Welcome Back. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: There's no question that Michael Jackson was a musical genius, 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: but he was also flawed with accusations of pedophilia. So 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: in a biopic, how is that not included? We talked 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: about it with New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Olegzinski. Hey, 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: let's talk about this new Michael Jackson biopic. Of course, 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: of course they have to deal with the scandal, right oenophilia. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: Or you'd think they would, But there was a there 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: was a great story in variety. So this is this 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: movie is called Michael. It's going to be like Bohemian Rhapsod. 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: He was to Queen. It'll sell lots of tickets. So 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: it's coming out at the end of the month, and 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: they've just revealed that all the scenes that actually deal 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: with who he was as a person, God Forbid in 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: a movie about his life have been cut because the 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 3: Jackson Estate, the propaganda arm of Michael Jackson's legs see, 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: found out that one of his accusers, there's some like 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: little legallyes that says he can never be included in 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: a movie. So the Jackson estate ponied up fifteen million 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: dollars to reshoot a bunch of it. So now it's 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: just Michael Jackson's a superstar. Here, here's thriller, here's beat it, 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: and it ends with him on top. None of it's 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: ever mentioned, and it don't make a ton of money. 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the Broadways a musical that did really well, 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: didn't it. It's still doing well, and I think they're 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: you know, the Jackson estate. I bet when they found 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: this document they were overjoyed because they don't want they 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: don't want this stuff dredged up, and audiences for the 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: most part, are willing to overlook it just to hear 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: songs they'd like. But come on, this guy was a sleazy, 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: alleged pedophile. 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Has there any been anybody in Hollywood that has seen 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: the film or worked on the film that leaked out 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: what was in it? 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? They were apparently at the end it was the 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: actually got into courtroom stuff and allegations in very specific terms, 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: and it was ending. Apparently the last shot or something 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: was that the cops descending on Neverland, and now it's 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, him hopping up at a concert or something. 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: It's entirely different. 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Ny, I'm only interested in one team. Yeah, did they 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: cut Tito out of thish? I mean long Jackson five member. 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen again what happened in Tito. It's like 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: what happened to Batman and Robert? What happened to Robin? 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: What happened in Tito? 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: All all the Jackson, all the Jackson five is in it. 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: Janet is not that, which is a bit conspicuous. So 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: someone made a good joke online. And do we have 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: to wait till the end credits to find out about 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: the Janet Jackson sequel. 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: Hey, is Sydney Sweeney becoming the biggest star in Hollywood? Now? 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I think she's the biggest star in publications about Hollywood 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: for sure. People people love to see Sidney Sweeney. They 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: don't really want to pay to see what she's in. 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: They don't seem to want to watch what he's in 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: very much, but they unless it's a bikini, they love 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: watching her in those. She's on this So she's on 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: this show Euphoria. That's what made her famous. That's what 60 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: made is In Dea famous and Jacobal, So all the 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: gen Z stars came out of Euphoria. And season three 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: is about to start and all her reviews are just terrible. 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: They're just terrible. 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: It'll still do great, It'll still do wonderfully. 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: Well because and gen Z loves it. And I think 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: it's because it makes high high school students so now 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: they're you know, forty five or however all the are. 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: But it's just a show about high school students having 69 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: lots of sex and doing drugs. And then you know, 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: those of us that were in the science fiction club are. 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: Like, what high school was this? I didn't go to 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: this high school. 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Gooby just asked one last question about Cidy Sweeney, because 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: we've talked about it before and I've heard it talked 75 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: about elsewhere. 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: Is she going to be the Bond girl? 77 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: I I really the whole Bond thing. Every day a 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: different Bond rumor. I think I've come on this show 79 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: and told you with great certainty that five different men 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: would play that part. I think it's going to be 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: announced any day now. I think she has a great chance. 82 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: If Jeff Bezos is calling the shots, I think he 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: likes Sydney hanging out on the yacht St. 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: Bart's. 85 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, let me take you back in the 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: time caps, so slowly I turned step by step Johnny O. Yeah, 87 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: my wife was all for Toots, all excited about the movie. 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Cats, big right, Oh my god. 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift right, not known for her movie appearances. I'm 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: really angry at Taylor Swift. You know, when I ran 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: for ma, I'm the catman, right she she endorsed Tampon, 92 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Tim the governor of Minnesota's vice president of Ause. 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: And I didn't get any play whatsoever. But why did 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: that whole cash fail. 95 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: In a movie that so many people wanted to see? 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: What was wrong with the movie? 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: And now they're sort of bringing back it in a 98 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: musical form on Broadway. 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so with Cats, the movie which I believe I 100 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: gave zero stars to at the time, and I like 101 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: the musical Cats, but when you see the musical Cats, 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: you don't go. I can't wait until they put that 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: on screen. Famously, there they were for any number of things, 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: but they they took away a body part. They they've 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: on the rear end of a cat. They they smoothed 106 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: it out. So everyone was talking. No one wants to 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: be talking about Dame Judy Dench's you know, and that, 108 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: So that was what the critics were focusing on it 109 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: was just a laughing stock, to the point where at 110 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: the premier Andrew Lloyd Webber, the composer, sort of washed 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: his hands of it and said he had no involvement 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: and has gone on to say that it's an appalling, 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: appalling movie. 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: So that's how bad Cats. It was awful. But there's 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: a new Cat's musical. 116 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's this is so get this and you 117 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: might be very offended, Curtis, as you said, you're the Catman. 118 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: So in this version of Cats on Broadway called the 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: Jellical Ball, which is great, the cats are no longer cats, 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: they are people. There are no there are no ears, 121 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: there are no tails, there is no fur. This version 122 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: of Cats takes the jellical Ball competition that the cats have. 123 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh he's so mad. 124 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm taking myself back in 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: time the beginning of the Guardian Angels. Luther Van Josh 126 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: was performing for us in a project in Harlem. 127 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: Nobody knew who he was. I mean god, he knocked 128 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: us out in. 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Advance of a mini ball three Snaps Up. I saw 130 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: some of the greatest performances of all time from the 131 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community. I mean, I had never known that this existed, 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and apparently this is what we're gonna say. 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: You're very well versed in Cats, thegelical ball, I'm impressing. 134 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: I'm there up with Larry over here. I have to 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 4: a b r oh, Larry, you've never been to a 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: mini ball. I've never been to a full ball. So 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: that's what they said. 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: It's it's based on Harlem ballroom culture, which is sort 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: of like like RuPaul's drag race. So it's outfits and 140 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: attitude and competition, which is what Cats is about. Cats 141 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: is about cats competing to go to heaven, and this 142 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: one they compete for a trophy, which is slightly more logical. 143 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: But it's tons of fun. The crowds are going crazy. 144 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: It's like a rock concert. It's good stuff. I had 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: a Guardian Angel leader who was in the mini bawl. 146 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: Wow, how about. 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: That man in the mini bowl? 148 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 4: I was not stunned. 149 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: The rest of the Guardian Angels was and asked, man, 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: his culture is existive? 151 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: Was it good? 152 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: It was great? Yeah. Johnny Alexinski, entertainment critic for The 153 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: New York Post. This has been a podcast from wor