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Speaker 2: For me, it's a yes, sir, for me, it's a

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Speaker 2: Oh, hello Minnesota. It's Greg Kilbourne and I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: to say I will be making a movie that I'm writing,

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Speaker 2: directing and starring in, an independent film called The Life Golden.

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Speaker 2: There are different ways to distribute it, The Life Golden.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna now tell you the log line, Dan. Does

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Speaker 2: It's a very short it's called the log line here.

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Speaker 2: It is a reclusive aristocrat has his idyllic life rocked

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Speaker 1: like in San Diego, but in a completely different deal.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a San Diego question, though.

431
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Speaker 1: I remember having a conversation years ago with Bud Shaw,

432
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Speaker 1: a longtime sportswriter. I'm sure you you know Bud, or

433
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Speaker 1: remember Budd. Yeah, and terrific, terrific guy. And Bud spent

434
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Speaker 1: time in San Diego and ultimately ended up, I think,

435
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Speaker 1: deciding to move back. I think in his case to Cleveland.

436
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Speaker 1: Part of it might have been the job, but part

437
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Speaker 1: of it was what he said. Was it was he

438
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Speaker 1: almost I said, like, it's too nice, it's too regularly nice,

439
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: that I didn't even feel like anything was really happening here.

440
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel that same thing or what do

441
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Speaker 1: you think he was talking about?

442
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Speaker 5: I know exactly what he's talking about. I always say,

443
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: lived in San Diego was like living in air conditioning.

444
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 5: You know, there was this and I didn't have air

445
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: condition in my house, but I was nineteen miles from

446
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Speaker 5: the coast and I had the beautiful breathe of the coast.

447
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: So everything is so easy. Now it's different. Now, I

448
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 5: will say that now it's different. Now a lot of

449
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 5: things have had happened. But when I lived there for

450
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 5: those ten years, it was like cheating. And you know,

451
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 5: they paid you in sunshine to be honest with just

452
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 5: so so you know. I went back to New York

453
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 5: and I always say I'm I'm only idiot who moved

454
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Speaker 5: from San Diego back to New Jersey. Sold my house

455
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 5: for two forty after I put like two fifty in

456
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Speaker 5: the house because I built a twenty by forty pool.

457
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: I planted forty pop and you can relate to this.

458
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 5: I made my house look like the Lax Marriott Pool

459
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 5: area basically, so it was perfect, and then I sell it.

460
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Speaker 5: The next guy gets like double and now I looked

461
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 5: at it recently, it was one point seven.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say by now right, yeah.

463
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, right up there. But but again, the whole point is,

464
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 5: I'm in a place now, you know, a thousand steps

465
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 5: from the beach, So I'm just often enough where I

466
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: don't have to deal with this beach stuff, and uh,

467
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 5: it's the same lifestyle. A little bay, a lot of

468
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 5: great restaurants, walk over to the beachside down. You probably

469
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 5: still have picture the other day my beautiful omelet you know,

470
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 5: went to Culver's today. I'm a Midwest guy Culvers. I

471
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Speaker 5: love Culver's.

472
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Speaker 1: I love culver One other question before we get to

473
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Speaker 1: the to the World Baseball Classic, which was the whole

474
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Speaker 1: impetus to get you on, and we appreciate your quick

475
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: turnaround here on short notice. As always, we've talked about

476
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Speaker 1: around the edges about the New York tabloids. I'm curious

477
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: to know because you were there in the belly of

478
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: the beast for some great years in the middle of it.

479
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: So do the New York tabloids? Do they run the

480
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Speaker 1: same way everything's being obviously, you know, the fewer and

481
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: fewer people working in newspapers, et cetera. But how what

482
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: do you know about sort of the tabloids sensibility today

483
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: compared to what you might remember what it meant in

484
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: its heyday.

485
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Speaker 5: Not even close, not even close. For a lot of reasons,

486
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Speaker 5: Dailly News is basically dead, my old paper, I think,

487
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 5: and in general I'm saying this in general about media,

488
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: and I think we saw it this week. In a

489
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Speaker 5: lot of ways. Everybody's gotten too close to whoever they're covering.

490
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: Frage upset people. And the other thing is that they're

491
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Speaker 5: not going there anymore. I mean, if I came up

492
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Speaker 5: with any idea, my editors at the Post, yeah, go go.

493
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Speaker 5: And that's why I wound up with wonderful stories, even

494
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Speaker 5: little things like hey, nineteen ninety eight, Hey, I'm you know,

495
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: there's a little team in New Jersey, Toms River, great,

496
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: great little little league team. Why don't want to go cover?

497
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 5: I wind up having a lifelong relationship with Todd Frasier

498
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: because of that, and I'm way ahead of them, so

499
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: that let me cover anything. Yeah, you don't get that anymore.

500
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 5: And now, of course there's also the nasty thing of

501
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 5: pay walls. And I just think though in general, media

502
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: is too close to whoever they cover. That's what I

503
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 5: love what I'm doing now because I don't really have

504
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 5: an editor, and I say and I write whatever I

505
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: want and too bad. If you don't like it, move on.

506
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: It's very liberating, right, It's got to be very liberate,

507
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: very liberated. You No, there's no you don't have the

508
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: layers that you have to mess with at all, which

509
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: is also good. All right, you wrote or have written

510
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: a lot on the World Baseball Classic, and as you

511
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: write early, you had just got done praising the US manager,

512
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: only to find out that he apparently didn't even know

513
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the rules as it pertains to advancing to the cores.

514
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: So is there any logical defense of I guess we

515
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: should probably set up first of all, what Mark DeRosa

516
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't know, And then is there any defense of the

517
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: fact that very clearly he did not. He managed his

518
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: team in an international competition not even really knowing what

519
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: he had to do to advance.

520
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: And he's a travelerly he manages his traveling kids, you know,

521
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 5: So you got to know this stuff whenever you go

522
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: to a tournament. Now, let me backtrack a little bit.

523
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 5: I thought that Rosa did a wonderful job. And this

524
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: was the angle that I took of getting the millionaires

525
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: to buy in and all pull on the same diamond

526
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: and crusted rope. That that's where I praised the most

527
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: of all. But I did, and then I did a

528
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: little more research and I found out like he had

529
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Speaker 5: his worst loss against Italy the other night, but he

530
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 5: had when he was a junior at Bergen Catholic. His

531
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: team got beat by Little Belleville. You know, public school

532
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: do nothing. And this is what makes me different. I'll

533
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: dig deeper. I tracked down somebody from that bell Will school,

534
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: the shortstop that the coach said, just throw knuckleballs. The

535
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: kid never pitched before. He threw knuckleballs. He shut out

536
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Speaker 5: the Rosa who was pitching for the other team, shut

537
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: out to the Rosas and beat him to nothing. And

538
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: the best part of the story was that the kid

539
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 5: who was throwing knuckleballs learned it from his sister, who

540
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 5: was a really good softball player. So this is the

541
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: worst loss to Rosa ever had. So so my point

542
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: is the Rosa we never should forget Dan And you

543
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: know this, You've been in all the clubhouses locker rooms.

544
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: You'll never forget that there were ball players. So there's

545
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: gonna be some idiocy involved, and uh just gonna take

546
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 5: it slow. Ha ha ha. Gets me back to my

547
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: other point about being too close, ha ha ha. I'm

548
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: MLB Central whatever the show is with Harold and I

549
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 5: known Harroll forever, you know in maths station, and you

550
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 5: know Matthis known him forever too. Nobody corrects him right there?

551
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: They no man, And here's the point. Nobody else has

552
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: written this. What about him? Michael Hill, that's his job.

553
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: You know, he's got to he's gonna get You got

554
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 5: to realize with the ball play, Hey, Mark, just don't

555
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: me remind you. You know we got it. You know

556
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: it's a run quotient. You know, it's not a much differential.

557
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 5: It's just that nobody even brought up Michael Hill except me.

558
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 5: So so yeah, the rosas and now, but but this

559
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: is the part that I don't understand. Take the take

560
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: the L, take the L and move on. If he

561
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: came out to say, just think of what he would

562
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: have said today, and if I were advising do uses

563
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: this way. We're told go out there and say, well,

564
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 5: guys and ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad we're in the

565
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: knockout round because I know for sure now and for

566
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: us to win, we got we got a win. Move on.

567
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: That's it. It's that simple. Everybody laughs, We move on.

568
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: It becomes a side note. Instead he's he's he's digging

569
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: his heels in and that's a mistake.

570
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Speaker 1: So as as I understand it, they they're in they're

571
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: advancing only because Team Italy destroyed Mexico nine to one. Right,

572
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: they needed to beat them by a certain number of runs.

573
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: Correct, No, they could have lost both. Basically, the breakdown

574
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: was if Mexico had won by scoring fewer than five runs, yes,

575
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: that would have put both Italy and Mexico in. And

576
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: you know what, hats off to Italy. They could have

577
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: done it. You know, they could have done that thing.

578
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: But they went out there. Good ball players. It's USA

579
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: two basically, and Vinia Pascaccino, this guy. I love this guy,

580
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: and you know how I hate nerds. Nerds, he said.

581
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: Earlier this spring, some nerdy writer was talking to him about, well,

582
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 5: you have the fastest bat speed and you know you

583
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: should have improven your best and he stopped them right there, said, listen,

584
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: you know what he did this offseason. I got rid

585
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: of all the measuring of bat speed and a lot

586
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 5: of stuff, and I decided to just hit the baseball.

587
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 5: Hit the baseball. So so that's what that's a baseball team,

588
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: you know, whats So don't sell them short. So yeah,

589
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: teamately save their bacon. And like I said, you know,

590
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: GRATSI gratsy, gratsy, gratzy. Uh and if I'm if I'm

591
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: Team us A. The one point I want to make

592
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: is that by Derosave being kind of dumb here, he's

593
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: taken all the heat dan players, nobody's asking the players anything,

594
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: so they this bond. This is where as it sounds,

595
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: but this is why I've done what I've done for

596
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: so long. This bonds the players. It almost puts him

597
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: in an underdog position like nobody. You know, everybody hates

598
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 5: us now, which you want from if you're a coach

599
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 5: going to management and it's going to be let's just

600
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 5: go out and kick kick, but right now and they're

601
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: capable of doing that.

602
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Uh, Vinny hit three home runs that that that's what

603
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about earlier was just to destroy them. That's

604
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: exactly it. You know, Guardian and I were talking about

605
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the numbers from one of the USA victories and I

606
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: think at its height, what do we say, guards the

607
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: almost six was it almost six million something like that, which,

608
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: by the way back in the day, which was paltry,

609
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: but now for his fragment as everything is, was a

610
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: very good number. I think that was the best number

611
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: in world Baseball classic history. So because I admit I

612
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: felt divorced from all of it. I was not really

613
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: getting into it much. And oddly enough, part of the

614
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: reason I am into a little bit more is this

615
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: whole DeRosa flap, which, for the same reason I think,

616
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: has become an entry point for a lot of people

617
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: who are going what's going on right now? World Baseball? Class?

618
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Has this all work? Though? That number isn't bad anymore

619
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: for an event that you know, I'm not sure the

620
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: whole the whole world has been paid or certainly the

621
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: country has been paying attention to in recent years.

622
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: Now it's a great number, and it's going to get

623
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: bigger because what they have, what they wanted. Now they

624
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: got controversy, Yes, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta,

625
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: you gotta basically a villain. You have your pants sitting

626
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: in the weeds, which they always do. Don't overlook them.

627
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: You got the party boys of Dominican uh, you know,

628
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: Range of Suarez going to get Yamamoto. That's a pretty

629
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: good thing. Yeah so, and you're getting the world now

630
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 5: to watch. So it's it's it's it's really as dumb

631
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: as everything has been. All the marketing has worked out

632
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: perfectly for them, and it's created, and what do we

633
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: have now? We're down to a four nations tournament basically,

634
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: and we have USA playing Canada. So what more this

635
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: is gonna if they destroy Canada, that it's going to take

636
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: all the heat off. Jack Hughes will be there, you know,

637
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: they'll have Jack Hughes again there, you know, right, you

638
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 5: guys being so hockey organic, you know what that's all about.

639
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: So it's really it couldn't work better for Manford. He

640
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: really stepped in a horseshoe. He pulled the horseshoe out.

641
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: Of his But are we now prohibitive favorites?

642
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Speaker 5: Kind of yeah, I would say so, I would say

643
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: we're prohibitive favorites. But I always say and since I

644
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: thought this would little League, I go back to nineteen

645
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: ninety eight when you Fraser's team had to beat Japan.

646
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: Never never, when it comes to baseball, never sell Japan short.

647
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if you knew it today, but a

648
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: guy named Otani through a simulated game, so he wasn't

649
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: supposed to pitch in the tournament. He still may not pitch,

650
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 5: but if he's out there throwing, if it gets down

651
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: to a situation like the last time, we've got to

652
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: get the left out or whatever.

653
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: He'll be there.

654
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 5: So it's it's just what we want to One of

655
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: the point I want to make real quick because it's

656
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: an old friend, Ned Colletti is the GM. Yes, yeah,

657
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: Ned Cleddy old friend is GM of of of the

658
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: team Italy. And he did it right. He made Pascatino.

659
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: He's a captain. But again, I have a lot of sources.

660
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: So a guy texted me doing about a month ago.

661
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: So hey, by the way, you can't say it until

662
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: it starts, but I'm actually scouting for team Italy. So

663
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: they went and got a great scout. I did it

664
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: for twenty years he was out so there Italy actually

665
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: scouted all their opponents. Was I'm sure nobody else did. So,

666
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 5: you know, good for Ned Colletti.

667
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Colletti didn't he start in media relations and then obviously yeah,

668
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: that's what I remember back in the day. Yeah, a

669
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: long time ago. Turned out pretty good for him, didn't it.

670
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: It turned out good, went to the dodge. Yeah, all

671
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: those good things that happened. And uh, and he's a

672
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 5: baseball he loves baseball, loves these guys. You know, we

673
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: talked about San Diego. You have set up Coletti, Puscon Tito,

674
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: Francisco Savelli, who once told me when he was at

675
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: the Yankees, I said, hey, what do you want to

676
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: do when your career is I want to be a

677
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: top Italian chef. That's what I want to do. I

678
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 5: want to be a chef. And uh, these guys, he's

679
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: gonna have a he's gonna have a statue. Both these

680
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: guys are set up in Italy forever and uh, you

681
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 5: know it's it's one of the great things about the WBC.

682
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 5: Love it. Yeah, and I am the original w I jumped.

683
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 5: Remember I told you about They let me do it.

684
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 5: They let me cover the first three WBC's. I went everywhere, everywhere,

685
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: phenomena where every game I wanted to.

686
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's that's outstanding.

687
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Now nobody's covered.

688
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: You got you got your big boys, your big dogs

689
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 5: pay by their outfits, but your your your average you know,

690
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 5: getting his hands dirty reporter is not out there for

691
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: the most point.

692
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunate but true. Uh, Brad is checking in one

693
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: of our listeners and he wants to change the subject

694
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: here at least for a moment, and we might as well,

695
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: because there's there's still some time. From a national media perspective,

696
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: he asks you, where do the poll ads rank in

697
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: terms of perception of other awful MLB owners. That's Brad

698
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: checking in, looking kind of for a little great question.

699
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: I got the answer. It's a simple answer. And this

700
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: goes with people in baseball too. They rank right. The

701
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 5: only guy behind them is nutting about nutting from the pirates,

702
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: So that's where they rank. They become a clown show

703
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: in many ways. And I see Falvey, we talked about

704
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: that situation. He's gone.

705
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: He's gone.

706
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's where they rank. No one respects them.

707
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: They kind of got sidetracked. You're a baseball organization. You

708
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 5: can't worry about what's going on in real life. Make

709
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: your baseball team good. They had the greatest baseball organization

710
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 5: with some of the gms and scouts they had. They

711
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: let them all go and they are who they are now.

712
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 5: I am happy that Kyle Murray should gets a chance

713
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: of rebound in Minnesota.

714
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: There you go, he is. It looks like it's going

715
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: to be here. It's not a official yet, but he's

716
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: been he's been visiting all day and I think getting

717
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: a physical as well. Hell maybe the Twins could. I mean,

718
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: he was drafted as a baseball player too. Maybe that's

719
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: where he ends up with the Twins. They could use

720
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: some talent, wouldn't hurt?

721
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: Does an opening there? And you know, and let's just

722
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: for the twins sake. Let's hope Byron Buction gets through this. Okay, yeah,

723
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: it looks okay right now, right but yeah, so it's

724
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: a it's uh, yeah, Minnesota needs some things to look

725
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: up to.

726
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you'll get a kick out of this.

727
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know if this filtered to you, no

728
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: reason it really needed to. But a few weeks ago,

729
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: Tom Pole add, this is the newest pole ad who's

730
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: now the front person. Okay, we've got a bunch of them.

731
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: This is Tom And he was with a straight face,

732
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: actually musing out loud to the to the to the

733
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: media jackals that he really wishes there wouldn't be so

734
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: much concentration and emphasis on payroll. And and I'm I'm wondering,

735
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of you in the scrum listening to Tom

736
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: Pole add after this, the Twins have keep cutting the

737
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: payroll another thirty million dollars from the previous off season.

738
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: What you would say to him, what your reaction would

739
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: be to him? Kind of wondering. You know, I don't

740
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: understand why why do is there always have to be

741
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: this fixation on payroll? You can't make it. It was

742
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: like a satire.

743
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: I'll tell you they are successful in their lives or whatever,

744
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: or their nebo kids, but when it comes down to it,

745
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: there's no common sense. And my question would have been

746
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: immediately like, well, then don't you think it's time to

747
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: sell the Twins? And and why don't we get Alex

748
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 5: Rodriguez in some kind of purchasing power move to buy

749
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: the twins. That's what I would love to see that

750
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: would save the twins. It's they're going nowhere where a

751
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: pole adds. It's it's it's said across the board. And

752
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: you know, but I don't put up with those kind

753
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: of owners. I can't tell you how many owners I

754
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 5: got fights with through the years.

755
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah.

756
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: But how did you Steinbrenner? You know, even Willpont, for

757
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: all his mistakes, Yeah, there were some good things about him.

758
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 5: Because one thing about Will Pond he actually liked the game.

759
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: We're getting owners now and that's why you're going to

760
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: see the stope twenty seven. Uh, the lockout whatever they

761
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: want to call it.

762
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Uh, they don't.

763
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 5: You know, it's hedge fund baseball with guys who don't

764
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: care about the game. And what do we have? We

765
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 5: have the Dodgers so far ahead physically, mentally, monetarily. Uh

766
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 5: Otani changed everything for the Dodgers. That was the greatest

767
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 5: move ever made in his That's better than bringing baberers

768
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: to the end.

769
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: You're right, it's a great point. It's undeniable. And by

770
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: the way, how about our guy Rocco He lands on

771
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: his feet, he gets I mean, how is there a

772
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: better job in baseball than being a consultant of any

773
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: sort for the La Dodgers? Are you kidding me? It's

774
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: as good as it gots.

775
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's what the Dodgers went to. I'm too

776
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: good as you bought that up rock. We know Roco

777
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 5: well was a baseball gus and the Dodgers bring in baseball. Yeah,

778
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 5: that's how they win. They keep the nerds in their corner.

779
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: They listen, they do their things. But then there's a

780
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: lot of baseball guys there and they still scout. And

781
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: that's why they beat other teams who are other teams

782
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: cheaping out and they don't get there.

783
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right. Well, I appreciate again

784
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: the visit on short notice Ball nine dot com. Great

785
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: stuff by you, as always, great stuff all over that site.

786
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: And as we get closer. Hell, I don't know how

787
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: much baseball we're going to talk about during the season

788
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: of Twins related and I'm honest because it just it

789
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like there's any there there. But there

790
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: could be some other baseball issues to discuss as well,

791
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: So I'm sure we will be in touch.

792
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we'll be in touch. And and you know

793
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: what the great news is, the snow's about the end soon.

794
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: A lot of those I'm going to see a lot

795
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: of those. I call them two players Dan when I'm

796
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 5: out on my little tours and I'm taking my pictures. Yes,

797
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 5: the cars with two license plates will soon the front

798
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: and back will soon be gone, including the ones from Minnesota.

799
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: So I'll be back up there and you'll have summertime

800
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: and be where you know what. The bikes will be,

801
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: Vikings will be open, training camp, whole new mindset, and

802
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: there'll be a lot more fun than the Twins. Nobody

803
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: will pay any attention to the Twins and poll labs.

804
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: Could we get a nerd corner at Ball nine dot com.

805
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: I liked what you just said. There's a bad Yeah,

806
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: nerd corner and then you just talk to a couple

807
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: of nerds every couple of weeks and let them say

808
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: a few things. You could do a point counterpoint nerd corner.

809
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: I think you just stumbled upon nerd corner. That's not

810
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 4: a bad off the Dodgers.

811
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: That's just me. I'm not telling you how to run

812
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Ball nine dot com.

813
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great. My original, my original column and my

814
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: college paper that got me took me on this path

815
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: because I didn't know what I was going to do

816
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: was corner, and you know, it just went from there.

817
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 5: So maybe it'll wind up with the weld go from

818
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: A to Z with with nerds corner. But that means, unfortunately,

819
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 5: I would have to listen to something the nerds said, Well,

820
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 5: get you Derek's number, we'll get your Falve's number.

821
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: He can be your first guy.

822
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: He's got a little sense with humors, so he does.

823
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you do. At least he did at

824
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: one point.

825
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 5: And that's what you got to have. And there's not

826
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: many nerves I have sense of humor. No, by way,

827
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: I gotta tell you I talked to a manager recently

828
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: in springte and I can name the team, but he

829
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 5: told me he goes, oh GM finally is not listening

830
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 5: to the Nerds. So we have a chance this year.

831
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: So I'll leave you what.

832
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: That's a great quote. You're the best man. Thank you.

833
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: We'll be in touch. Take care good Kevin Kernan, keep

834
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: the the Dodgers, keep the Nerds in their corner. That's

835
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: as good as it gets. I want to sell. Then

836
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: how about Hedge Fund baseball? Those are two outstanding shall

837
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: we call him Kernan isms? And he never ceases uh

838
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: to amaze. Top of the Hour break will include a

839
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: on the other side of top five and five, what

840
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: do we have? Do we have a Kyler Murray official

841
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: sighting at TCO yet?

842
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: Not really, but I can tell you I can make

843
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: something up about it. I can also say I can

844
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: tell you where to go for the guards you West

845
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: Coast Wolves wellness plan, because we are feeling great this

846
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 4: week