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Speaker 2: Leader fan Fan Radio Network, excuse me and k fan

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Speaker 2: dot com. Two minutes and thirty four seconds past the

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Speaker 2: hour of three o'clock Central daylight time, we welcome you

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Speaker 2: back to a Tuesday edition of the Bumper to Bumper

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Speaker 2: program on a calm before the Sononami Tuesday here in

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Speaker 2: the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. My name

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Speaker 2: is Dan Burrero, hosting the program as usual, guards he produces,

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Speaker 2: and we are going the distance today six thirty. We

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Speaker 2: are wild or not back in action until Thursday night? Correct?

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Speaker 2: That is correct? Are we in many training camp mode

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Speaker 2: now to try to fix what ails us? Let's hope.

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Speaker 2: So have we just done the old cliche? But we're

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Speaker 2: gonna strip it all down and then build it back up.

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Speaker 2: Get let's get to the nuts and let's start over.

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing? Are we practicing? Are we

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Speaker 2: doing two a day's or can you do that? Is

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Speaker 2: it the opposite approach, which is get away? You got

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Speaker 2: a three day you want to go to Vegas for

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Speaker 2: three get just get out of here. Don't even think

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Speaker 2: about it. Not gonna rip you, not gonna mock you,

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Speaker 2: just get out of it, refresh your minds and your bodies,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see a Thursday, well probably Wednesday night is

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Speaker 2: a Thursday game home a road, it's home against Vancouver.

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking these things, will lou Nanny, No, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna join us in studio, you tell me, yeah, beginning

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Speaker 2: at five h two today. But I'm very curious to

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Speaker 2: know what the strategy given an unusual amount of off

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Speaker 2: time this late in the season. Right, it's a scheduling quirk.

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Speaker 2: It is that you could argue works in the favor

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Speaker 2: of the club if you are trying to get some answers,

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Speaker 2: and maybe you have some time to put your players

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Speaker 2: through the meat grinder, unless again, we go with the

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Speaker 2: less is more approach. Well, given my sources say and

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Speaker 2: full of players were having a good time outside at

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Speaker 2: Maynards on Sunday, I don't know how long they stayed there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Bobby Brink was there with all

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Speaker 2: his buddies like Bill gern thought, right, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it wasn't a Monday and a Tuesday thing at

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Speaker 2: Maynards and I love Maynards. Yeah, but maybe maybe lock

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Speaker 2: it up, well, yeah, locked in there was already some grumbling.

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Speaker 2: There were some grumblings about that and some other locations

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Speaker 2: to what's going on with that. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Is it fair? Are we just hearing about? Is this

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Speaker 2: really the way it works for every team, including good

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Speaker 2: ones and championship and I thought players nowadays drank water

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Speaker 2: and ate kale the entire season and didn't let their

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Speaker 2: hair down until the season was over. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: you've been missing fore I happened. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: all about rest and recovery. Yeah, R and R. I

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Speaker 2: don't think. I guess it's possible in some cases and

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Speaker 2: not so much in in others. We'll find out. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Luigi will have some theories on the best approach to

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Speaker 2: take during this extended break that the team is enjoying

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Speaker 2: before they get back onto the ice for their next

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Speaker 2: regular season game on Thursday night. The Brat Shawn Brian

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Speaker 2: Kafean text line has been rebooted. It's available via six

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Speaker 2: four six eight six. The uglydeck dot Com guest lineup

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Speaker 2: very good today. In addition to Lewis in studio, our

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Speaker 2: old buddy Rich Gannon is scheduled to join at four

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Speaker 2: point thirty this afternoon and at the bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 2: Tom Crean a busiest man in basketball. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to broadcasting, there's he's pretty good. No level of broadcasting

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Speaker 2: that he will not raise his hand to be a

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Speaker 2: part of. If somebody makes a phone call, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm being serious, it could be it could be high school,

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Speaker 2: it could be junior college, it could be Division three,

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Speaker 2: it could be Division one. He loves ball. He loves

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Speaker 2: Crean because there's certainly this time of year plenty to

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Speaker 2: discuss regarding his favorite game, the game of basketball. That

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Speaker 2: is three point thirty this afternoon. I mentioned the day

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Speaker 2: well maybe fifty percent of the audience that has consistently

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Speaker 2: asked the question, will we as a nation be able

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Speaker 2: the Union be able to survive him? That's fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's forty nine, maybe it's fifty one, depending on

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Speaker 2: who's stealing the votes. Right, we know because we know

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Speaker 2: that's going yeap, that that's it. Like, well, it's just

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Speaker 2: the daily traumas we associate with this White House it's

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Speaker 2: that's the day of reckoning. I am here to tell

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Speaker 2: you that pales in comparison to the true day of reckoning,

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Speaker 2: which is coming, they tell me. And that is the

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Speaker 2: possibility that the twenty twenty six National Football League season

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Speaker 2: will commence with replacement referees. And I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure in twenty twenty six, in the world

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Speaker 2: which we live, yep, the four K replay world in

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Speaker 2: couple of plays I saw during the Big Dance, in

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Speaker 2: which I swear to you the play was replayed no

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Speaker 2: fewer than twenty times the same single play, different angle,

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Speaker 2: different speed, you know, other side of the court, whatever

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Speaker 2: the case may be. And I'm telling you, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that this country could survive a football season in

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Speaker 2: which the referees are so called replacement refs. And it

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Speaker 2: might happen. There is growing concern. I mean again, there

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Speaker 2: survive a significant portion of the season, even as little

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Speaker 2: as one week, but three to six to nine weeks

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Speaker 2: in which the referees, as in the officials as much

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Speaker 2: as we you know, savage and rip the current refs,

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Speaker 2: the ones who were play if they're bad or mediocre.

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Speaker 2: Imagine what happens if you go all the way back

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Speaker 2: to and I still remember it. I remember replacement refs

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Speaker 2: in eighty No, it wasn't. There wasn't eighty seven. That

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Speaker 2: was replacement players. When was the last time we had

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Speaker 2: scab officials? The last time was twenty twelve, okay, and

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Speaker 2: it was for three weeks, and it was it was

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks Packers right the game that they screwed up

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Speaker 2: a Hail Mary, Hail Mary got completely screwed up. There

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Speaker 2: were like seven forms of pass interference in the end

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Speaker 2: zone they awarded a touchdown. It was dogs and cats

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Speaker 2: living together. And a lot of people think that actually

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Speaker 2: that game, yes, is what changed everything said, we can't

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Speaker 2: let this continue, but there is growing evidence to suggest

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Speaker 2: that it could happen again. And remember then we didn't

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Speaker 2: have twenty four to seven. Well, we've always had twenty

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Speaker 2: silly obsession with got to get it right, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 2: lose their mind. There'd be demonstration. Yeah. Didn't Gurby demonstrate

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Speaker 2: That's right, he did. He got arrested in New York.

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Speaker 2: Was it that one?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that was a different one. I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: I remember he'd been to the NFL offices to demonstrate

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Speaker 2: against Cadell. I don't know if it was about the

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Speaker 2: replacement refs. I just love this headline from ESPN, Your

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Speaker 2: guy Peter Schrager. He's got the sunglasses on at Phoenix,

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Speaker 2: he's got his nice jacket on. The headline quote, tensions

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Speaker 2: are heightened over replacement ress in the nfhole. Oh god, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's casting to Paul over the usual fun and frivolity

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Speaker 2: of the owners meetings right now. The game you mentioned

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Speaker 2: was Packer Seahawks twenty twelve Seattle's down twelve to seven.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson throws a desperation heave to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Two players scrap, a Seattle receiver commits blatant pass interference. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: the replacement refs mistakenly awarded Seattle a touchdown. And the

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Speaker 2: victory was fourteen years ago. And the league is so

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Speaker 2: worried about that trauma that they're basically saying that they're

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Speaker 2: already preparing. The mistake they think they made then, was

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Speaker 2: they really weren't ready soon enough in grooming or getting

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Speaker 2: together potential replacement refs. They waited too long to do it,

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Speaker 2: and that they're saying, we're not going to do that again.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a quote. This is inn a Wall

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Speaker 2: Street journal piece on this subject. What we need to

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Speaker 2: do is make sure we are prepared to succeed at this.

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Speaker 2: The assumption is now the the current agreement expires on

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Speaker 2: May thirty one. The assumption is that the league is

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Speaker 2: if there's no a deal, they're going to lock out

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Speaker 2: the current ref There will be a lockout in this case,

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Speaker 2: and so it's a matter of whether they can, as

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Speaker 2: they prepare for that possibility, find enough, you know, replacement

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Speaker 2: and I'm here to tell you they can't because by definition,

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Speaker 2: Because that's the that's the realm, well, that's the mob

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Speaker 2: And if you want to further advance the story, I

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Speaker 2: just saw, I just saved it. This is via Florio

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Speaker 2: at this point. He writes, in less than two months,

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Speaker 2: the NFL has gone from boasting about its officials to

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Speaker 2: what our negotiating posture has been. The dead period that

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Speaker 2: the ability to get the best performing officials on the

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Speaker 2: the owners are saying through proxy, hey, look, we are

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Speaker 2: ready to make some changes. We are looking for more

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Speaker 2: accountabilit and if you expect more money, then some of

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Speaker 2: There will be a standing ovation from fans. They will

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Speaker 2: or we're consistent in saying we're more than happy to

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Speaker 2: pay for performance. This was consistent throughout the course of

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Speaker 2: the discussions over the past couple of days. But what

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Speaker 2: they are insistent upon is that the performance of the

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Speaker 2: officials and the accountability for the coorse has to improve.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we are in those negotiation, these negotiations,

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Speaker 2: and that's exactly where we are going to stay that

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Speaker 2: now again, you know, public negotiating it gets you get

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Speaker 2: sometimes tougher to make whatever point you're making. It can

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Speaker 2: be posturing to a certain degree. But here's the kicker

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Speaker 2: from Florio. It feels like the NFL is ready or

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Speaker 2: is already determined to lock the officials out. Get this,

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Speaker 2: rely on expanded replay and play Russian roulette with the

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Speaker 2: Fire all the officials, implement a forty seven day training

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Speaker 3: I'm great. I had not heard that call. That's awesome

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Speaker 3: you want to go with right, like you want to

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00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: drive it. Especially you're always trying to teach uh when

432
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: people come up on you in that situation, and that

433
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: was a little different because they were both there about

434
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: the same time. But drive the guy that's come last,

435
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, or drive at the like a lot of

436
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: times when people want to double pick and roll, drive

437
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: it to trapper right, drive it him because he's the

438
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: one that's momentum is coming towards you. You've got a

439
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: better chance to get a buy him or clipped get

440
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: clipped on a file. So kyten Boozer just didn't put

441
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: enough on the pass, and they did a great job

442
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: of deflecting it. And the only part that I missed

443
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: on that because when it initially happened, I was looking

444
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: to make sure that it counted on the monitor. I

445
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: wish I'd have said more about how great the pass

446
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: was from Alex Caravan, because one of the great shots

447
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: that into double a history was only made to happen

448
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: because somebody had one of the great at fists and

449
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: he had just had a three. He had just nailed

450
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: about a twenty five foot twenty three foot three on

451
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: a pin down action, you know, shortly before that, which

452
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: was Alex Caravan's first three. So I don't fault Caden

453
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: Boozer as much as others do. They did not have

454
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: a great second half, and they just they had eight

455
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: turnovers in that second half to one. The points off

456
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: turnovers were fourteen to zero. They got beat at the

457
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: foul line in the second half, which had not been

458
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: happening to Duke at all. Duke in the first three

459
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: games had been eighteen of twenty three on average from

460
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: the foul line, and their opponents had been five of

461
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: eight from the foul line. So it just was a

462
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: very very tough second half. Of them all the way around,

463
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: but it was fluky on both ends, There's no doubt.

464
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: So you watch close coaches very closely. You have obviously

465
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: been one for a long time, as well as you

466
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: watch that game change throughout the second half. How much

467
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: of it is well, Duke making some mistakes, Yukon making

468
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: some plays, and how much of it can you say, Well,

469
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: here's what I detected that Hurley also might have done

470
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: to contribute to the possibility at least that his team

471
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: had a chance to get back in the game. What's

472
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: fair in terms of coaching, what's fair to bring into this?

473
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: What's more really about the players and not so much

474
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: about whether the coach is a legend.

475
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'll start on the Duke's side. No, Caleb Foster

476
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: was a big, big blow because, in all honesty, I'm

477
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: not sure they win on Friday night if Caleb Foster.

478
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 3: And for those of your listeners that don't know, he'd

479
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: been the starting guard for the year. He's a junior

480
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 3: on that team. He's improved tremendously and then he had

481
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: a fifth metatarsal break and he had surgery and he

482
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: came back I think after twenty or twenty one days

483
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: which was incredible. And when they say his first time

484
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: playing five to five was when he went in the

485
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: game on Friday night, I believe it because the other

486
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: times he did not practice at all. On Thursday, he

487
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: didn't practice at all. On Saturday, he was on his scooter.

488
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: We interviewed him. He was on his scooter, like there

489
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: was no moving around, like he had the boot on

490
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: and he on the scooter. And he was incredible with

491
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: what he did on Friday night of getting Duke back

492
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: in that game, because when he checked in in the

493
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: second half, he was down ten, And I just think

494
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on Caden Boozer to play a

495
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: lot of minutes. He had done a very good job

496
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: inside of the game. He was plus nineteen at half,

497
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, so it wasn't like he was playing bad.

498
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: But I think the depth of that a little bit.

499
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: I think the fact that they had some trouble defending

500
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: late getting around the screens. And here's another big one.

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: It because and not to get too technical with this,

502
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: but I think it's important because I watched this so close.

503
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: Who owns the middle of the floor, Like who's getting

504
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: down inside those slots and elbows and like there's such

505
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: a big difference when Anthony's driving inside the elbows versus

506
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: when he's driving on the outside, point right, and anytime

507
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: you can get in those elbows. So Duke on Friday night,

508
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: when I went back and charted it on Saturday morning,

509
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: they were forty One of the sixty five points that

510
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: they got came as a direct result of getting down

511
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: the middle of the floor, and it was middle pick

512
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: and roll. It was some sealed, some fouls, some drives

513
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: in and get deep and then make a kickout for

514
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: a three. Well, they weren't getting that against Ukon. You

515
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: commde adjudstment to start going under the screens in the

516
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: game against Duke and they couldn't turn the corner or

517
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: one of the best corner turners was Caleb Foster and

518
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't able to do that in that game. On

519
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: the flip side, Danny Hurley does an incredible job of

520
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: it's really unique how he works the official because it's constant,

521
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: and I mean it's absolutely constant, and he's also having

522
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: conversations with them that are not combative, but there are

523
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: certainly times that they are very combative. And he's very smart.

524
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: Both coaches are very very smart. And the officiating in

525
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: the game. To me, it was it was very, very

526
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: physical in the paint around the bucket most of the game,

527
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: but then it got pretty physical up around those elbows

528
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: middle of the layed area, and I thought that played

529
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: into Yukon's favor, because I'm not saying they were fouling,

530
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: because even one time I thought it was a dead

531
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: charge that cam when I look back at it, the

532
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: cam Boozer charged into Braylen Mullins and they didn't call it.

533
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: And for anybody that complains about Duke gets the calls, well,

534
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: there's numerous times in this tournament watching it for two nights,

535
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: Duke could get a lot more calls with the way

536
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: that they drive in and create contact. But Duke was

537
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: not good enough with the ball. In the second half.

538
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: You could kind of sense a comeback coming from the

539
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: very start of the second half. I wouldn't say that

540
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: I sense that they were going to lose the game,

541
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: but the way Yukon came back and the way that

542
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: they responded early in the second half, they didn't miss.

543
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: So two outstanding coaches, nobody out coached the other guy.

544
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of At one point Yukon was

545
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: one of a teams, so that the players are at

546
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: the coaching. The coaching is this. He kept giving those

547
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: guys the confidence and running the sets to run those

548
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: plays and get those shots. But his players are the

549
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: ones that had the courage that he keep taking me. So,

550
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: if you're gonna win big, it better be a combination

551
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: of coaching and talent.

552
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Who's gonna win?

553
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not good on predictions, and I'm

554
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: just really not. I'm good on trying to forecast, but

555
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm not as good I'm that. I would just say

556
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: this that all the people that want to talk and

557
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: get on television or get on the radio and make

558
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: you believe that the championship game is Saturday night with

559
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Arizona and Michigan, they're not watching the tournament like they're

560
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: just not. You know, on paper, absolutely those are probably

561
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: the two best teams. But when it comes to the tournament,

562
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: if this tournament has showed anything just like last tournament did,

563
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: the second half is so important. No lead is safe none.

564
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: A year ago, Duke is leading Houston. Houston makes a

565
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: great comeback second half of the game early on Houston

566
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: and Florida. Houston is loot leading the game during the

567
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: bonus mark at the fourteen minute mark, which is incredible.

568
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: They shoot I believe, five more free throws the rest

569
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: of the game rather than the technical free throw. Florida

570
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: wins a game, like so many things can change in

571
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: a forty minute game, and so much of it is

572
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: based on the whistle, you know, and who can dominate

573
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: the free throw line or at least be in the

574
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: game on the free throw line. Who's going to get

575
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: points off turnovers? Live ball turnovers are crazy, right, and

576
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: they just they change everything. Who can offensive rebound to

577
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: get to the line, who can offensive rebound to get putbacks,

578
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: or who can offensive rebound you get kickout threes. And

579
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: it's not about the scoring. It's about the efficiency of

580
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: your offense. And a lot of times, like when Yukon

581
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: was missing shots, they were missing open shots. They weren't

582
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: missing bad shots, they were just missing open shots, and

583
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: eventually at the end of the game they hit them.

584
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: When you have coached, have you ever had a moment

585
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: in which you have looked out on the court as

586
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: the other team is inbounding the ball, only to be

587
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: horrified to find out you only had four players on

588
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: the court. Allah what happened to Freddie Hoiberg and Nebraska Cornhuskers.

589
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: No, I can't say that I haven't. I can't say

590
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: that i'd seen that in that type of situation. I've

591
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: seen where somebody didn't get into the game. I've seen

592
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: six and somebody has to run off, yep, but certainly

593
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: not at that magnitude, not at that time and not

594
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: with the amount of people. You know, Fred stood up

595
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: there and took the bullet for that. In my goodness, man,

596
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody had to see that and they just didn't.

597
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: And the referees are under no Now you would hope

598
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: that they would do it, but they're under no true

599
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: rule responsibility to have to correct that. But in most

600
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: cases they don't get a pass on that either, right.

601
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an NCAA tournament sweet sixteen games. Somebody

602
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: should have no this that there, that there was not

603
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: enough players on that floor. That's just for the good

604
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: of the game, you know, irregardless if it's a rule

605
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: or not. If it was a real rule, that's all

606
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: we'd be hearing about. But you got to step up there,

607
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: and you've got somebody had to see that, and the

608
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: people that saw it was Iowa, Well, Garrison Bennett's sturt

609
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: saw it and all of a sudden, you know it's over.

610
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: Ends up being a three point play, right, and effectively.

611
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: Somebody had I put that on the referees is just

612
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: a management of the game, even if they have no

613
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: jurors have to do that. And you know when when

614
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 3: there's less, so it would have been a technical foul

615
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: obviously if there was more, if there was six, so

616
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: you're you're looking at that, but they missed it. Man,

617
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm telling you now that sitting courtside for these games

618
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: last week in Tampa and then this past weekend in DC,

619
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: the magnitude of these games, the pressure that that you

620
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: can just sense on the side, the physicality, the mental

621
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: endurance that you got to have to be in these games,

622
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: it's crazy. I mean, it's just it's high level. I mean,

623
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: it's the NBA Finals, in the NBA Western Conference Finals,

624
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: and plays they're just that much more because the players

625
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: are that much older, bigger, and the games are longer.

626
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Why do those kinds of moments gaffes? One could say,

627
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: whoever you want to pin it on, why do they

628
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: stay with us in a historical sense? Sometimes I think

629
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: more than you know the play, the more positive plays

630
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: that lead to a championship, whatever the case may be.

631
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: Is it just the in this case the unusual nature

632
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: of it given also what was at stake?

633
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: Why?

634
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Because I even hear coaches that I've talked to say,

635
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't like admitting this, but it's the stuff that

636
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: where we screw up or doesn't go right that ends

637
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: up to come sometimes staying with me more than the

638
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: highest Why is that?

639
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a combination of competitive nature, it's a combination

640
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: of perfectionism, and it's a combination of especially in those

641
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: situations you eventually learn as a coach. You eventually learn

642
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: as a coach there's certain things you can't control, but

643
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: you never accept it and you never stop looking for

644
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: the things you can control. And I think it's the

645
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: same with players. I mean, that's why I felt so

646
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: bad for Caden Boozer. I didn't have a horse in

647
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: the race, but I felt awful for Kaden Boozer and

648
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: and watching him deal with media after that. And I

649
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: feel bad for John Shire. I've known him since he

650
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: was fourteen. We were his first scholarship oper at Marquette,

651
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: before he ever went into the ninth grade and I

652
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: followed his career and it's like people want to jump

653
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: on They always want to jump on somebody that's that's

654
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: done a lot, right, anytime they get that moment. The

655
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: man's won one hundred and twenty four hundred and twenty

656
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: five games in four years. And we can say it

657
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: to Duke, but they're not a lot of harder things

658
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: than replacing a legend, like like Mike Krushevsky, and he's

659
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: being dissected on a Final four game and on an

660
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: Elite eight game, right, So it's like he's in the

661
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: highest level of games. But that's just the way that

662
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: it is. And I think it's the perfectionism mixed with

663
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: your competitiveness. And I think the other part of it

664
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: that just it's like when something goes wrong with your family,

665
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: the old adage that a parent is only as happy

666
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 3: as their unhappy as child. I think it's the same

667
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: thing with your team. I mean, when you when you're

668
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: so close and so together and something goes wrong as

669
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: a player, as a coach, and you feel a direct

670
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: hand in that, that doesn't leave you. Now, it doesn't

671
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: mean you don't remember all the great wins. You definitely.

672
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: You definitely think about the last second losses more than

673
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: you think about the last second wins. There's no doubt

674
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: about that.

675
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: Tom Creane kind enough to join us. Don't forget rich

676
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Gannon is coming up at four point thirty this afternoon.

677
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Lu Nanni and studio at five oh two. Give me

678
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: a good reason why Io Desumu should not be starting

679
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: for the Wolves, or perhaps more importantly, finishing games once

680
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: the playoffs begin.

681
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: I don't think I could give you one of those.

682
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: I think he brings energy on both ends of the floor.

683
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: I think we don't have a strong enough sample size

684
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: yet of how good he's going to be with Anthony.

685
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: They just haven't been together that long together, right. They've

686
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: had some obviously, but not a ton like they could get.

687
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: I think what he does defensively, the energy that he

688
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: plays with the way he can go from A to

689
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: B so fast. He's improved immensely as a shooter yep,

690
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: inside of his career, and I think he's a different

691
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: player than what he came into the NBA on and

692
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: the shooting is as big a part of it, but

693
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: he's also making so many better decisions. No, I don't know, man,

694
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: I think when you've got Io and Bones, I don't

695
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: know as much about the arting part that I wouldn't

696
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: feel uptight finishing with those guys at all, especially when

697
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: you have Anthony out there and I don't know that

698
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: was it's gonna be. I'm sure there were some other

699
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: great trade grades that'll come out, but it's hard not

700
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: to give the Timberwolves real hard a on that, especially

701
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: because they were able to bring Mike Comedy back eventually.

702
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: You know Anthony Edwards better than anybody that I know,

703
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: and you continue to follow him, especially because now you're

704
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 2: doing analysis, you know, a pregame postgame on many Wolves

705
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: games as well. Given what you know about him, given

706
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: what you know about what Desumu's strengths and weaknesses are,

707
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: where do you think he could help Anthony? Where do

708
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: you say, all right, if he brings a B and C,

709
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: it could enhance what Anthony does once they get used

710
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: to playing with one another.

711
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's gonna take a little bit of time.

712
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Anthony's not he's not healthy yet. I mean he's back,

713
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: but I mean he's still. Yeah, he's done a tremendous

714
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: job because I've talked to him, not every day, but

715
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: close to every day through this entire thing. He's done

716
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: a tremendous job trying to get himself back for this,

717
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: and he wasn't himself yet last night in Dallas. But

718
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: he's back, and so he'll play into it. I think

719
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: he will help keep I think he'll help Anthony's awareness defensively.

720
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: I think with what he can do on the ball,

721
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: he's going to read situations even that much better because

722
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: I think iow has got the ability to keep the

723
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 3: ball in front of him just a little bit longer.

724
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: It's a little harder to beat him on a long

725
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: close out, it's a little harder to beat him off

726
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: the dribble, which allows Anthony at times to read and

727
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: anticipate certain things. Now, again, that doesn't have anything to

728
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: do with Anthony standing up on the weak side, not

729
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: being locked in and not in the stance. But I

730
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: think that that Anthony loves, he loves. He's got a

731
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: Piranham mindset when when he smells blood in the water,

732
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: so to speak, and you can turn somebody over, somebody's

733
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: starting to get rattled. He's got that in him innately.

734
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it really isn't there, And I think Io

735
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: can help bring that out where it can come out

736
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: in Anthony at times. Now I think it could come

737
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: out even more. And obviously he got Rudy behind you.

738
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: And I think Anthony gets really charged up when Jaden

739
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: is rolling. I think he gets charged up when Nas

740
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: is making threes. I think he loves seeing what bones

741
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 3: Hyland is doing. You know, obviously Julius and him have

742
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: been on the court together a bunch. They're figuring out

743
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: each other all the time. I think Io through this

744
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: playoff series can help bring another level of juice and

745
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: competitive stamina. Put it that way, because he's competing, but

746
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: a competitive stamina to what Anthony does, especially when it

747
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: gets to the defensive end, which then turned into baskets

748
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: in transition, because now there's another guy that Anthony can

749
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: throw it to that can be racing down the court

750
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: and get it back to him for a finish.

751
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: Now that's where I was going to go last. He

752
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: convinced because I even talked about this after the game.

753
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: He's already been around. I think he's been very perceptive

754
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: in sort of analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of this

755
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: team already, and what he said something yesterday, the effect

756
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: of Basically, he wants to to get Anthony. He wants

757
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: to prode Anthony to get out running with him more

758
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: because Anthony doesn't necessarily, I don't think love fast breaks

759
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: all the time. Could this be something that that broughds

760
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: him into Anthony, you know, coming along for that part

761
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: of the ride.

762
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: Well, I think so. Anthony loves to have the ball

763
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: in his hand, and when he's coming up the middle

764
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: of the floor on the side, he is processing the defense.

765
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: I've said this on your show before that I had

766
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: to learn how he saw the game coming up the

767
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: floor because I wanted him to race it up and

768
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: he's just not as comfortable on that like he wants to.

769
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: He's not he's not resting, he's processing, right, he's looking

770
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: for so absolutely, I think that can happen. But I'm

771
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: telling you now, they're like they're like guys, and Bones

772
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: has got this in him too. They're gonna have some

773
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: games where they start to smell that they can turn

774
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: you over, and they can turn those into multiple turnovers.

775
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: And I think that'll happen. And I think as Anthony

776
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: gets healthier, because it's another couple of weeks where his

777
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: body is rested up he's not. He's not obviously full

778
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: of go yet even though he's going. But I think

779
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: that will play into that. And if you really look

780
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: at times when Anthony is committed for running the floor

781
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: to get into the corner, to not jogging to the slot,

782
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: but to really sprinting the floor, not looking for the

783
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: ball to come back to him immediately, he's at his best.

784
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you there when he runs wide. And my

785
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: other thing with him always is get off the top

786
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: of the keymore right, get to where you can drive it,

787
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: get to where you can you can flash to it,

788
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: get to where you're coming in a downhill. Because he's

789
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: hard to guard, but he's not as hard to guard

790
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: when they can lowed up. When he's playing in the

791
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: middle constantly, you can build your defense around him, and

792
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: that's where those walls come in. And he's got to

793
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: continue to knock down those defensive walls. And part of

794
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: it is the running game. Part of it is getting

795
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: out wide in the break game and certainly some of

796
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: the turnover game. But the other part of it is

797
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: getting off the ball where he can play in that

798
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: wing area where he can drive it baseline or middle

799
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: and play from there.

800
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: You're named acting NBA commissioner for a day for whatever reason,

801
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: how do you.

802
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: Want to getting paid?

803
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, you're not doing it for free, a million dollars

804
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: doing it for free a million dollars for a day.

805
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: But you have to solve I like that.

806
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: You have to guarantee it two for that.

807
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: I had a hunt you might. Uh, you got to

808
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: guarantee that you can come up with the solution to

809
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: this problem. And of course I'm talking about tanking. How

810
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: does Commissioner Crean fix the NBA tanking scorge.

811
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: You've got to put a deadline. You got to put

812
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: a deadline on the record for the draft, and it's

813
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: got to be earlier rather than later. And that's just

814
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: what it is. I don't know if there's any other thing.

815
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: The fines don't matter, they don't care. There's it's like

816
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: the old days and cheating in college basketball. You might

817
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: lay awake at night trying to figure out how to

818
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: break a trap and a press, and this other coach

819
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: is laying awake at night figuring out how he's going

820
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: to get more money to Uncle Joe or cousin Sally. Right, Like,

821
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: that's what it is. The people that want to tank

822
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: they're going to find ways to manipulate the roster, the game,

823
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: the injury reports, all those types of things. So there

824
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: may be people that are smarter than me, and maybe

825
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: I'll just take the money and run after one day

826
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: if I get to be that commissioner. But I would

827
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: set a day, and I'm not sure that. I'm not

828
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: sure the All Star break is late enough. It may

829
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: have to be earlier. And there's just got to be

830
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: more because if I go in as a commissioner, I'm

831
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: coming in as a fan, and there is no possible way,

832
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: there's not a shape ants I would be spending my

833
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: money with my family to go watch a team that

834
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: I think is is potentially tanking. I don't know how

835
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 3: some of these places make money. There's not a chance

836
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: I would put money and buy tickets, and I'm to

837
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: be sure i'd take the free ones because I still

838
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: have to buy the concessus thing. Now if I go

839
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: for the suite, if there was a suite and the food,

840
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: and I only had to pay for parking because the

841
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: kids did like it, But I'm not going to spending

842
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: money on a team that's tanking. I think it's absolute

843
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: joke and I think there's some of the most arrogant

844
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: people that do this and the tanking because they insult

845
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: the intelligence of the average people. And it's got to end.

846
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it really does. I mean it's it's the

847
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: only sport where it's this bad and you've got a

848
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: lot of smart people that are figuring out ways to

849
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: manipulate it, and it's it's crazy to me, And it's

850
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: crazy to me that, Okay, there's a bunch of really

851
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: good draft picks, right there's a bunch of really really

852
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: good freshmen. You're gonna see. Keaton Walgler this weekend is

853
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: not getting nearly enough attention for what he could be.

854
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: On a high he could be in this draft playing

855
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: for Illinois. Braydon Burry's is gonna from Arizona is going

856
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: to be a single digit lottery pick. He's going to

857
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: go higher than some of the guards that are getting

858
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: more attention right now. If Brayln Mullins wants to go,

859
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: he's going to be maybe late lottery that he'll be

860
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: right there because of that athleticism and that's shooting, you know,

861
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: all the way around. I just don't understand how you

862
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: give up on a season with the hope of getting

863
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: one player. I just don't I don't get it. But

864
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: that's what I would do. I would change I would

865
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: change the lottery. I would change the who drafts when

866
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: based on a certain part of the season. And if

867
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: you had a trade that you'd made already, well, that's

868
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: just part of it.

869
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: I have one football question for you, because you have

870
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: a lot of connection.

871
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: With Shannon Man's Boston is about as good as it gets.

872
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: He is outstanding as he's been a great he's become

873
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: a really good analyst as well. But there's a lot

874
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: of conversation suggesting a good chance that the NFL officials

875
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: will be locked out, that the league's going to lock

876
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: them out. They're not close to an agreement. Now, you

877
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: know how things can change in a dime when it

878
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: comes to labor negotiations. But let's play this out and

879
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: say they're locked out, and let's say the NFL is

880
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: going to have to go for a period of weeks,

881
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: if not longer, to a system of replacement referees. Can

882
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: the United States of America, knowing what we know about

883
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: the love of football being on a level like no

884
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: other sport, would it survive replacement officials for any significant

885
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: length of time because given the instant replay world in

886
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: which we live to get it right culture in which

887
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: we live, I'm not sure any of us would survive that.

888
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, I don't think it would happen.

889
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't think because the brand is so strong, so

890
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: could they survive in a couple of weeks. It would survive,

891
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: but they don't want anything that's going to attack that brand.

892
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: And Rich can certainly talk about it better than me,

893
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: and I've not talked about it with my brother in

894
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: laws at all. I'm just giving you my opinion. I

895
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: don't think there's any chance they would let the brand

896
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: those take take those type of hits, because there's no

897
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: way they could ever ala and eate all the gambling.

898
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: I mean they can't. They can't. They can't put it

899
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: like that in the hands of the gamblers, with with

900
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: how much money is wagered on any given play, let

901
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: alone any given game, and they just there's there's too

902
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: much at stake. And I think, yeah, will it go

903
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: down to the eleventh hour, will it be hard driving,

904
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: will it be ugly? Yeah, all that stuff, But at

905
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I don't think there's any

906
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: possible way that happens.

907
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: No way, you're the next time. Crean assignment is media assignment.

908
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: At the Bucks tonight, Bucks and Mavericks tonight for fans

909
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: Will Sports Network. I thought I had another Timberwolves game,

910
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: but I don't think I do really unlets something say, yeah,

911
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so because it doesn't go into the playoffs.

912
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: So a couple of games this weekend. But that's kind

913
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: of where it's at then, and then I'm always I'm

914
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: always open to more because here, pretty soon it gets

915
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: to be the point where I start to lose my

916
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: mind a little bit. We live in Florida. Yeah, but

917
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot to do, so I'll just

918
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: dive into the draft and and and work on those

919
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: kind of things. Yep, but that's uh. Have a FanDuel

920
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Sports Network this week.

921
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: Well, I guarantee you this, once the playoffs hit, you're

922
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: you'll hear from us for sure, because we will.

923
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: We will be up there. I'm gonna go for sure.

924
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna definitely do that.

925
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot there's a lot of good fodder

926
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: already about matchups and how this thing goes and whether

927
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: you know there's great equity in what this team's done

928
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: the last two years.

929
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 3: Tom.

930
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: But there's also I think the trap of assuming that

931
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 2: because you did that before, you can do it again.

932
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: And to me, it's also about you know, sustaining the

933
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: right habits, because I don't think you can you can

934
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: you can assume anything. You've told me this over and over.

935
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: Each year is different, each season does take on a

936
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: life of its own.

937
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, my fear, my hear with the Timberwolves is just

938
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: the letdowns they have in the games that there should

939
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: be no letdown in yeap and again that's all you

940
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: need to do is give up a home game in

941
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs and all of a sudden, you know, everything

942
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: changes for you. And then that puts a lot of

943
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: pressure on Superman games or games that we've got to

944
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: be really good when and they can win any game

945
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: at any time they place. Anybody that can win a

946
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: championship could do that, but especially in the West right

947
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: now with I mean when you look at what San

948
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: Antonio is doing and you look at what Victor's doing,

949
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: Victor's not even playing that many minutes on every night,

950
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: right like his his forty eight his if he was

951
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: playing forty eight minutes, those numbers are unbelievable. Well, he's

952
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: not doing that right. They haven't had to do that

953
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: with him, And certainly Oklahoma City's dealt with their ton

954
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: of injuries and they were able to win through that.

955
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: Boston look what they did to get to the point

956
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: even before Tatum got back. It'll be interesting to see

957
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 3: if they get into the playoffs. How Tatum to that.

958
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 3: But there's no room for air. If you really want

959
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: to get somewhere, you've got to get every advantage you

960
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: could possibly get, and you don't want to be given

961
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: games away where it becomes habitual to the point where

962
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: you think you're just going to turn it on because

963
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: now the competition gets and obviously the Wolves have had

964
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: some games where they've given it away the teams that

965
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: weren't close to as good as them, But pretty soon

966
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: they're going to be playing teams that are as good

967
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: as them, and you just can't have that anywhere in

968
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: your system. And I hope that they can get that

969
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: blushed out and be as consistent, and I hope Anthony

970
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: can stay healthy the rest of the way.

971
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: You're the best man. Thanks for the time. As always,

972
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: We'll be in touch as we get closer. To the

973
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: postseason anytime.

974
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Always love it.

975
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's the one and only Tom Crean on

976
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: a number of pretty salient basketball issues right now, Wolves related,

977
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: NBA related, certainly college basketball related because he was there

978
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: for one of the great finishes in recent Big Dance memory,

979
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: the Big Yukon comeback, and even a little football conversation

980
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: given Crean has all that, all those relationships with the

981
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: Harbaughs as well. Top of the Hour break a little late,

982
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: don't forget rich Gannon at four point thirty and Luigi

983
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: in studio that's going to be emotional at five oh two.