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Speaker 1: the Aging and Police website, and that is mobility becomes

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Speaker 1: Remodeling in home building. All right, thanks Vance for hanging

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Speaker 1: Doing good? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: It's a monoreil and it's got thirty six by three

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Speaker 1: I've used several of their products, and it's DICEE Coatings.

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Speaker 1: wet and forget max that's fine, because if you want

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Speaker 1: to resand it, you're going to have to get that

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00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: out of there anyway. That's old sand. Polyameric sand is

433
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: a sand with a resin in it, so it looks

434
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Speaker 1: like a beg of sand, and it's called polymeric sand.

435
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: It's four pavers. Specifically, you sweep all the sand into

436
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 1: those little tiny joints that drive you crazy. Only this

437
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: time you take a hose and you just wet that

438
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: whole patio down. And what it does is it the

439
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: sand's you know, it's it wets that sand down, activates

440
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: the polymeric resin in the sand, and it hardens it.

441
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't harden it like concrete. It just hardens it.

442
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: It minimizes, not eliminates, minimizes ants tunneling through it. It

443
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: minimizes weeds growing up through it. It minimizes anything that's

444
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: going to disturb that sand. It minimizes you tracking the sand.

445
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: So that polymeric sand is a critical player in this

446
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: and at that point if you do the wet and

447
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: forget and it's killed the moss. You got the polymeric

448
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: sand in there, things are looking good. If you want

449
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: to seal it, that's fine. I mean it'll help, it'll

450
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: help it not get as wet as long so the

451
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: environment won't be conducive to growing moss. And then we

452
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: got these other tools that we've used, and I think

453
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: you can pretty much control your problem.

454
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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with all you said. My second question

455
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: was going to be about the answer.

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00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Mm hm, So oh yeah, answer a problem we.

457
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: Must be Yeah, we must be using the wrong kind

458
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: of sand or at some point used the wrong kind

459
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Speaker 3: of thing.

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00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: I do think we must have used that paulmeric at

462
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: one point, because I do remember wetting it down and

463
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: it seeming like it formed hard.

464
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

465
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: And it's a point.

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00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not a cure. All. I think if

467
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Speaker 1: if it were me, in the order of which I

468
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: would do it, I think what I would do is

469
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: I would spray the wet and forget. The next week

470
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: or two, four or six weeks later, you're mid May. Okay,

471
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of that should be gone. Maybe all of

472
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: it will be gone if if we get rains like

473
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Speaker 1: we get in the spring and we get some sunshine,

474
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: it will be gone and then come back. And then

475
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: maybe if that sand is you know, you can put

476
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: in the polymeric sand at that point, or pressure wash

477
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: the whole patio right now. Get rid of the sand,

478
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: get rid of all the weeds and everything. Then take

479
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: the wet and forget, even though there's very little of

480
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: the moss less, and just spray and saturate that whole

481
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: area with the wet and forget. Wait six weeks, then

482
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: sweep in the polymeric sand, and then go ahead and

483
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: seal the pavers. That would probably be the order of

484
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: business I would do it. I'd probably pressure wash that thing.

485
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: I'd just blow up as much as I can. If

486
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I can't get all the moss out of there, I'm

487
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: not gonna worry about it because I know the wet

488
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: and forgets gonna get it and uh and then just

489
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, and start putting it together again.

490
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: Okay. I have tried when and forget before, not like

491
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: on the whole area, and I must have done something

492
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: wrong because it turned yellowish brownish.

493
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Speaker 1: So it was killing it.

494
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so it.

495
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Was killing it. I remember that. I said you might

496
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Speaker 1: need a second helping of it.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I ever did a second

498
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Speaker 3: help because it never totally went away.

499
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Speaker 1: Well, it's loss is going to be a little bit

500
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Speaker 1: different than say molds or mildews. It's not going to

501
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: disappear like a mold or mildew. But it killed it.

502
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: It killed it, But you're going to have to from

503
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: a cosmic standpoint, you're probably still going to have to

504
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: remove some of that or put a second helping on it,

505
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: and you know, just to make sure it's dead, dead

506
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: and a street room was sweet off. I've done this

507
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: exact project before. You get a brown fibered street room.

508
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: After that stuff's good and good and dead and brown,

509
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: get a get a street room and just brush that off.

510
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I never got it to the point where

511
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: I could just brush it off.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think probably a second helping of that. The

513
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: moss is very difficult, and there's been some I've seen

514
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: them removed. It wouldn't forget remove it. Where that path

515
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 1: of that moss is almost three quarters of an inch thick.

516
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: It took three helpings. I mean mold or mildew would

517
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: take one helping. Moss will take one or two helpings.

518
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: So Uh, you know that that's the process. And then

519
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: get that polymeric sand in there and I think you'll

520
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: be on your way. But it's outdoors and that's how

521
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: mother nature works. So you're you're, you're you're fighting a

522
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: winner there, but you can keep it in control and

523
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: keep it well maintained. Hope that helps. We'll continue with

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Speaker 1: Martin Martin, welcome.

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Speaker 6: Welcome, Thank you very much. Mister Sullivan, Arenger Brock, thank

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Speaker 6: you welcome. I have a I moved into a brand new,

573
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Speaker 6: newly built apartment house. It's got about sixty units in it,

574
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Speaker 6: round one thousand square foot, has a new HVAC system,

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Speaker 6: brand spanking new, real high tech, and there's a fan

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Speaker 6: that you can't control turn on or off. You can

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Speaker 6: put it. You can put it on on and it'll

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Speaker 6: run when it's on at your command at the panel

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Speaker 6: on the wall. Or you can put it on auto.

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00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 6: But you can't turn it off and it blows outside

581
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 6: air inside. Again, you can't turn it off. You can

582
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Speaker 6: smell cards off through at restaurant emissions and house chimney smoke.

583
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: You know, you can smell outdoor smoke and exhaust and stuff.

584
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Speaker 6: But and I asked the h fat guy that comes

585
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Speaker 6: around once in a while change filters and whatnot if

586
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 6: that's normal, And he said, it's the combat indoor pollution,

587
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 6: because like you said earlier, indoor pollution is a lot

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Speaker 6: more dangerous than the outside.

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00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's ane changer. It's taking air from the outside, right,

590
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: So what's taking the air? What's what's well, here's my question,

591
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not familiar with that. I've not seen one.

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00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't I think.

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00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 6: It's new the I'm scary to mean to cut you off.

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00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 6: The h fat guy said, it's a new new thing

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Speaker 6: that beneficial, I guess for your health if you pull

596
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: a little Okay, they call it fresh air, but I

597
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 6: live in a highly polluted area.

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00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, here's my question. Okay, So I'm very familiar

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00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: with Eric's changing units. Okay, So if the indoor air

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Speaker 1: is more pollued than the outdoor air and it's pulling

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Speaker 1: air in, it can't pull air in until it pulls

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00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: air out. Okay. Mother nature will not allow itself to

603
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: compress air. So there's got to be something somewhere that's

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Speaker 1: pulling air outta I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know if it's silent. I mean, you can hear this thing,

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Speaker 6: like if you walk under it in the winter, you

607
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 6: can feel the cold air coming out. Everybody's complaining about it,

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00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 6: but you can't turn it off. It's just the normal

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00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 6: thing now. And I you know, I was going to

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00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 6: call my h back guy, but I was listening to

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 6: you and the sponsor and stuff.

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00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may be designed that way. It may yeah. Yeah.

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00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: So way an air exchanging unit works, though, is it's

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00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: a very slow, methodical drawl of air out not in,

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00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: because air coming in the house is we have, uh,

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00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: we're in and out of our house all the time.

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00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: We're opening doors where we got leaks around doors. We've

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00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: got leaks around windows that breeze your house, breeze underneath

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Speaker 1: the base board of your of your rooms. You know,

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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: we got air coming in. But if you're going to

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Speaker 1: force air in, you have to force air out. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if there's I don't know if there's

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Speaker 6: an exhaust system. Like I don't know if it's pulling

624
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: air from the apartment out, but it's blowing it in,

625
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 6: so it could be blowing it up. That's another thing.

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00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 6: My exhaust fan in the bathroom, I just know it's

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00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: real silent too, and you can turn it on, but

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00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 6: you can't hear it. But you know I could. You

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Speaker 6: could put your hand up, a wet hand up there

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Speaker 6: and feel the airflow. It's it works, But that never

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Speaker 6: actually turns off, I think because it's just a natural

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00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 6: you know, like if you have a vent on your roof,

633
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 6: you know, you get a natural airflow there, So that

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00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: might be the pulling it off. Ask to God, they're

635
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: going to change the filters.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd love to hear the response of the other fellow.

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00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how those work. And you're sure

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00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: that when that fan is on, it's just not circulating air,

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Speaker 1: you're sure it's bringing.

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Speaker 6: See I can smell like I can smell car exhaust. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, I have the real sensitive O factory, and

642
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 6: I can smell like the restaurant down the street. Yeah,

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00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: you can even smell like if somebody's smoking cigarettes in

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Speaker 6: their car. Occasionally I get a whiffa tobacco, so I

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Speaker 6: know it's being pulled in from the outside. I don't

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Speaker 6: know where the I don't know where the intake is,

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Speaker 6: but I just thought it was pretty bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be, And there could be intakes where

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Speaker 1: it's just an open pipe for like fresh air, and

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Speaker 1: once you turn that on, it's pulling that air as

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Speaker 1: it's blowing air out. Maybe it's reversing. I I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get to do me a favor after

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Speaker 1: you have a chat with the other HVAC company, and

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Speaker 1: I'll do a little looking into things also. But it

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Speaker 1: does sound like that functions the way the world functions.

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Speaker 1: I may be wrong there too, so let me know

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Speaker 1: what they say. I would love to and I'll do

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Speaker 1: a little research also. And thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: the call. All right on the other side of the break, Spencer,

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