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Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Who praise God, the week's over halfway over because we

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Speaker 2: A tough one today. So the right off the bat,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna discuss this birthright citizenship Supreme Court thing. In

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Speaker 2: case you're wanting a more in depth legal analysis of it.

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Speaker 2: I have Bill Jacobson coming up thirty minutes from now

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Speaker 2: to break down kind of a legal thing. Bill will

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Speaker 2: break that down for us. All right, I'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in the moment. Here's what else we have. We

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Speaker 2: do have good things happening. Some good things happening in

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Speaker 2: the corporate world. Good thing happened with Trump's executive orders.

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Speaker 2: Terrible things are happening in the media. Bill Gates is

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Speaker 2: still a monster. We'll get to emails, so many things

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Speaker 2: on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: So let's dig into this right here. I've told you

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Speaker 2: many times before, and I'll say it again and again

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Speaker 2: and again and again and again. Saving a country is

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Speaker 2: a process, not an event. Losing a country is a process,

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Speaker 2: not an event. It is never one election, one court ruling,

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Speaker 2: one day. That is not how it works. We can

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Speaker 2: be fooled and the thinking that's how it works, because

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Speaker 2: we get caught up in these things, and because we

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Speaker 2: look back at things, historical things, and it seems like

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Speaker 2: it was an event. You know, the Roman Republic fell

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Speaker 2: when they stabbed Caesar. The Roman Republic fell one hundred

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Speaker 2: years before then. That was just kind of one of

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Speaker 2: the final that was the coup de gras. If you will,

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Speaker 2: saving a country is a process, not an event. We

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Speaker 2: will not lose the United States of America if we

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Speaker 2: get wiped out in the midterms. We won't lose the

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Speaker 2: United States of America if we lose the presidential election

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. There's a thousand battles to fight,

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Speaker 2: a thousand battles to fight, because it's a big war.

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Speaker 2: But with any big war, we have to understand that

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Speaker 2: some battles are more important than other battles. Some battles

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Speaker 2: are a little river crossing. You went across the river,

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Speaker 2: you got slaughtered trying across the river. Not ideal, but

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Speaker 2: you'll cross at some other place you'll gather. Then there

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Speaker 2: are some battles that really, really, really matter, And if

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Speaker 2: you lose those battles, it's not that you can't win

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Speaker 2: the war, but it makes winning the war significantly more difficult,

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Speaker 2: which brings me to today. I got so many emails Jesse,

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Speaker 2: my wife, and I can't make heads or tails of

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Speaker 2: the arguments presented to the Supreme Court or which way

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Speaker 2: it appears the Supreme Court is leaning in the matter

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Speaker 2: of birthright citizenship. Can you help us out? All right?

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Speaker 2: So let me explain first the Fourteenth Amendment. Why do

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Speaker 2: we have it? Well, this is part of what drives

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Speaker 2: me crazy about even having an argument about birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows why we have the fourteenth Amendment. Every single

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Speaker 2: person knows. It is not a mystery. The left nose,

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Speaker 2: the right nose, the middle nose, the judges knows, the

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Speaker 2: lawyers know. It's not a mystery. And it was never

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Speaker 2: meant to be a mystery, because the entire argument was

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Speaker 2: written down, the justifications for it were written down. The

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Speaker 2: Fourteenth Amendment was about freed slaves. We had a country

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Speaker 2: where we had slavery for a time. Eventually, slavey ended

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Speaker 2: Black people before that time of slaves, I should say

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Speaker 2: before that time, because there were black people, and well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Black people before that time were not

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Speaker 2: considered to be full citizens, full humans. They had these

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Speaker 2: weird rules. It was awful. So we wanted to lay

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Speaker 2: down a marker and make it clear as day we

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Speaker 2: no longer have slavery and you are a full American

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Speaker 2: citizen with all the rights that come with that. It

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Speaker 2: was about freed slaves. It always was about freed slaves.

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Speaker 2: And what I just said drives me crazy because everyone

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Speaker 2: knows it. Everyone knows it. Trump talked about it today.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the original birthright citizenship papers, they

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Speaker 3: all happened right after the Civil War. The reason was

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Speaker 3: that had to do with the babies of slaves. And

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Speaker 3: hopefully it's going to say because our country is being scammed,

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Speaker 3: we're getting all of these people, they're selling the rights

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Speaker 3: to them. People are making a big living, getting hundreds

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Speaker 3: in and saying, congratulations, your whole family is going to

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Speaker 2: That's not what it is luck. And what drives me

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Speaker 2: Trump just said there is true. Everyone, it seems, has

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Speaker 2: chosen to lie about this. It's not a mystery why

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Speaker 2: the communists lie about this. As we discuss all the

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Speaker 2: time on the show, the communists understand that disloyal foreigners

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Speaker 2: who hold no love of the United States of America,

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Speaker 2: they are Democrat voters in waiting. You bring them here,

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Speaker 2: let them have as many babies as humanly possible, give

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Speaker 2: them all American citizenship. And if you're a Democrat, demographics

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Speaker 2: truly are destiny. You cannot lose. Zoran Mandani is the

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Speaker 2: mayor of our biggest, most powerful city, New York City,

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Speaker 2: and American born New Yorkers, these are lefties, Democrats. American

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Speaker 2: sixty percent. No, yet he's still the mayor. Why because

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Speaker 2: foreigners voted for him. This is a man who is

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Speaker 2: an open communist, doesn't even hide that he's an open communist.

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Speaker 2: Foreigners love it. With the mass importation of foreigners, we

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Speaker 2: And everybody knows this. Republicans know this, Democrats know this,

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Speaker 2: lawyers know this, judges know this. Everyone knows it. And

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Speaker 2: everyone knows something else. Birthright citizenship has been abused by

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Speaker 2: foreign countries for years and years and years and years

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Speaker 2: and years and years and years. They just cross the border.

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Speaker 2: They'll sneak across the border. A woman who's about to pop,

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Speaker 2: she's about to have her baby, will slip across the

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Speaker 2: have to take her to an American hospital where she

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Speaker 2: will have her baby. And that baby is an American

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Speaker 2: citizen immediately, birth certificates, social Security number, all the rights

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Speaker 2: that you have as a citizen China. And we'll get

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Speaker 2: to this in a few moments. China has companies to

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Speaker 2: and their whole thing is, we will get you Chinese

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Speaker 2: citizen to America to have your baby. Once you have it,

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Speaker 2: you come back home with the baby. We will lovingly

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Speaker 2: nurture this Chinese baby in the all the wonders of communism.

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Speaker 2: But that Chinese baby has a social Security number just

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Speaker 2: like you do, has a birth certificate just like you do.

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Speaker 2: And whenever that Chinese baby chooses, or to put it

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Speaker 2: more bluntly, whenever the Chi cooms tell that Chinese baby

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Speaker 2: the United States of America and take your job and

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Speaker 2: nullify your vote, take your child's position in a university.

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Speaker 2: This is happening. And what drives me crazy. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear me say this a thousand times tonight is everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: It's not like I'm the only one who knows. It's

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Speaker 2: already know. Everybody knows. Foreigners from across the globe pillaged

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Speaker 2: this country and achieve American citizenship by a blatant and

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Speaker 2: obvious violation of the fourteenth Amendment. And everybody knows. Everyone

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Speaker 2: the left nos, the middle knows, the right knows, Judges know,

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Speaker 2: lawyers know. Everyone knows, and yet it is permitted. This

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Speaker 2: ridiculousness is permitted. So Trump correctly challenged this, stood up

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Speaker 2: and said this is wrong. You can't do this anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're stealing from this country, They're stealing from our citizens.

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Speaker 2: You can't do this anymore. To his credit, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: chose to dig into this fight and got it all

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Speaker 2: be clear, before we play, a couple things here. Everybody

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Speaker 2: knows on the Supreme Court too, the left nose, the

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Speaker 2: right nos. Katanji Brown Jackson knows, Clarence Thomas knows, Amy

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Speaker 2: Cony Barrett knows, John Roberts knows, Atlanta Kagan knows. They

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Speaker 2: all know. So how to go today, I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: in a second. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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Speaker 2: a fantastic Wednesday. We got Bill Jacobson coming up about

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Speaker 2: ten minutes from now to discuss the legal things around

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Speaker 2: this Supreme Court argument today. But a thousand battles will

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Speaker 2: be fought to save the United States of America or

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Speaker 2: lose it. And some battles are more important than others.

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Speaker 2: As I said, taking away birthright citizenship is really, really,

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Speaker 2: really important now to do that. We look, we know

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Speaker 2: where Katanji Brown Jackson is going to have. We got

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Speaker 2: all that. I'll play you summer her and but we

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Speaker 2: need people like the Chief Justice John Roberts. We need

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Speaker 2: him to vote with us. Here's how that went today that.

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Speaker 4: Based on Chinese media reports, there are.

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Speaker 2: Five hundred This is not John Roberts, this is the

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Speaker 4: That based on Chinese media reports, there are five hundred

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Speaker 4: five hundred birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China.

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Speaker 4: Who's what business is to bring people here to give

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Speaker 4: birth and return to that nation.

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Speaker 2: Having said all that, you do agree that that has

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Speaker 2: no impact on the legal analysis before us.

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Speaker 4: I think it's I quote, what with justice Clia said

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Speaker 4: in his Homdan descent, where they like their interpretation has

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Speaker 4: these implications that could not possibly have been approved by

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Speaker 4: the nineteenth century framers of this amendment. I think that

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Speaker 4: shows that they've made a mess and their interpretation has

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Speaker 4: made a mess of the provision.

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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the nineteenth century.

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Speaker 4: No, But of course in a new world now, is

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Speaker 4: Justelina pointed out to you, where eight million people are

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Speaker 2: Is a US citizen, Well, it's a new world. It's

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Speaker 2: the same constitution. It's the same constitution. But doesn't he

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Speaker 2: know what the fourteenth Amendment was about. He knows he's lying,

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Speaker 2: He's lying right to your face. Is he dumb? He's

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Speaker 2: not dumb, He's a liar. I know we all think

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Speaker 2: she's an idiot, and she is an idiot. But Katanji

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Speaker 2: Brown Jackson, those two These are the Kakamabe arguments she

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Speaker 2: tries to use against it. But keep in mind, you know,

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Speaker 2: how does this work.

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Speaker 5: Are you suggesting that when a baby is born people

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Speaker 5: have to have documents, present documents? Is this happening in

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Speaker 5: the delivery room? How are we determining when or whether

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Speaker 5: a newborn child is a citizen of the United States

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Speaker 5: under your rule?

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Speaker 4: What Ssay says is there's currently a system where, for example,

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Speaker 4: security social Security numbers are generated based on the birth certificate.

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Speaker 4: They say, this can still be for the vast majority

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Speaker 4: of the institute is completely transparent.

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Speaker 6: You will still get an itch.

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Speaker 5: You're not transparent. I'm just talking about the particulars because

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Speaker 5: now you say your rule turns on whether the person

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Speaker 5: intended to stay in the United States, And I think

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Speaker 5: Justice Barrett brought this up. So we're bringing pregnant women

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Speaker 5: in for depositions? What are we doing to figure this out?

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Speaker 2: She knows? Is she dumb? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: But she knows.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to come up with arguments like this

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Speaker 2: if you didn't know.

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Speaker 5: You obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in

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Speaker 5: whatever country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you

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Speaker 5: also have local allegiance when you are on the soil

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Speaker 5: of this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm ius citizen and visiting Japan, and what it means

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Speaker 5: is that, you know, if I steal someone's wallet in Japan,

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Speaker 5: the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance,

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Speaker 5: meaning can they control you as a matter of law.

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Speaker 5: I can also rely on them if my wallet is

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Speaker 5: stolen to you know, under Japanese law, go and prosecute

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Speaker 5: the person who has stolen it. So there's this relationship

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Speaker 5: based on even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just

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Speaker 4: Based on Chinese media reports, there are five hundred five

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Speaker 6: Well, because I think it is confusing as to what

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Speaker 2: We speaking with Bill Jacobson, founder of Legal Insurrection Cornell Law. Okay, Bill,

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Speaker 2: why is John Roberts this way? Who is this guy?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. You know, he's kind of a legal

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Speaker 6: But he's dealing with, you know, a Democratic party that

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Bill, When are we gonna know? One? I feel so

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Speaker 6: It's not going to be tomorrow. I can't predict, but

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Speaker 6: they know that this is going to be a big reaction,

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Speaker 6: and of course, you know that's why they're going to

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Speaker 6: take more time on it. I mean, it's just very

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Speaker 2: Bill I owe you, thank you for educating us. As always,

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Speaker 2: Bill Jacobson, Thank you so much, sir. It is the

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, absolutely wonderful Wednesday. I

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Speaker 2: feel I feel better after talking to Bill. I feel

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Speaker 2: like we have a chance. I don't you're wrong. I'm

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Speaker 2: still pretty sure we're totally screwed, but I feel like

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Speaker 2: we have a chance on the birthright citizenship thing. Now

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Speaker 2: in a minute, I'm gonna I'm gonna dig into just

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Speaker 2: give me a second here, and I'm gonna dig into

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Speaker 2: why won't Republicans get on board with this? Why are

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Speaker 2: Republicans acting confused about this whole thing? Because there's a

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Speaker 2: whole there's a whole thing behind this on the right

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Speaker 2: that we will discuss at length. Before we discuss that,

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Speaker 2: I have to address something that Jewish producer Chris is

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Speaker 2: mad about. Jewish producer Chris is mad because I am

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Speaker 2: not discussing this. What is it, Artemis, Chris Artemis. But

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Speaker 2: this space launch thing where we're going to the moon

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Speaker 2: and beyond the moon, this big NASA launch they're launching

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Speaker 2: people out into outer space and all kinds of people

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Speaker 2: are all excited about it, and Chris wants me to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. However, this is one of those things,

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Speaker 2: and I have things like this. I can't help it.

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Speaker 2: I've just got to be honest with you at all times.

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Speaker 2: This is one of those things where I differ from

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Speaker 2: virtually everyone else in society. I probably differ from you

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Speaker 2: on this whole thing. I don't care outer space, space travel,

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Speaker 2: going to the moon. Here's a picture of Pluto. Couldn't

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Speaker 2: not matter less to me? Could not what Chris? What

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Speaker 2: Chris said? What if we're mining an asteroid? You know what, buddy,

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Speaker 2: as soon as we go out there and actually grab

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Speaker 2: something that is beneficial to all of mankind, you know,

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Speaker 2: we mine some asteroid and then that turns into a

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Speaker 2: power plant that gives everyone in Africa power, then you'll

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Speaker 2: get me to say, Man, I get it. Totally worth

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Speaker 2: it to this point, I know you're mad at me

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Speaker 2: about this. I know right now you're looking at the

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Speaker 2: radio and you're yelling at me. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: crap on your phone. I'm really not. No, I'm not, Chris, No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm explaining why I don't care. I'm on Earth.

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Speaker 2: I'm here on Earth. I don't understand why we continue

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Speaker 2: to shovel bill millions of dollars towards space travel. Why

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Speaker 2: and then this is where someone will always step in.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you didn't see the pictures of Pluto. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: saw a picture of Pluto. How does this benefit me?

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Speaker 2: How does it benefit you? But they're going to the moon, great,

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Speaker 2: How does that benefit me? How does it make your

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Speaker 2: life tangibly better? In any way? No one can ever

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Speaker 2: lay this out. So you always get these things. And

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Speaker 2: I know I'm a jerk. I understand that. I am

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Speaker 2: my father's son. You always get these things. But it's cool.

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Speaker 2: There are lots of things that are really cool. Juggling

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Speaker 2: is cool. It doesn't cost me billions of dollars. What Chris,

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Speaker 2: Chris said, what if we have to send an oil

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Speaker 2: crew into space to blow up an ash? Yes, Chris,

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Speaker 2: I too have seen Armaged, an underrated movie. Again, if

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Speaker 2: these days ever come where we mine a meteor in

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Speaker 2: Power Africa where we have to send Bruce Willis and

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Speaker 2: his oil crew into space to save the planet, if

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Speaker 2: that day ever ever gets here, then I will say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, all that space travel stuff completely worth

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Speaker 2: it and super super interesting. I'm still waiting on that day.

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Speaker 2: As of now. I'm glad that we have nuclear weapons

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Speaker 2: in outer space. That's what Chris. What Chris said, We don't, Chris,

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Speaker 2: you buy that officially, I understand what the story is.

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Speaker 2: Believe me, pal, they've got nuclear weapons in outer space.

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Speaker 2: I bet you money on it. Anyway, I don't understand

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Speaker 2: why it's supposed to be big deal for me. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand why you think it's a big deal. I

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Speaker 2: just don't get it. And I'm fine with not getting it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to crap on you. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you have something you like. But if we're gonna gather

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Speaker 2: around and we're gonna launch the space thing and whatnot,

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Speaker 2: I did that once as a kid, and everybody died.

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Speaker 2: What Chris Chris said? A private company, would you be

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Speaker 2: interested in space tourism? Go into the space for like

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Speaker 2: five minutes and come back down?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? The reason I say maybe is I would need

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Speaker 2: to know what responsibilities I have here on Earth. It's

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Speaker 2: not that I'm against risks. I take risks in my life,

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Speaker 2: but right now, I still have two sons at home,

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Speaker 2: I have a wife, I have responsibilities. I have people

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Speaker 2: to care for. I would have a hard time justifying

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Speaker 2: having a five minute adventure, so I could pull out

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Speaker 2: my eye phone and snap a picture of Earth from

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Speaker 2: out of space. I can get the same picture right

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Speaker 2: now on Google without ever going into outer space. I

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Speaker 2: just don't get it. I don't get it. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: don't get why the right is still kind of acting

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Speaker 2: dumb about the whole birthright citizenship thing. I will explain

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Speaker 2: that next