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Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour. My first guest tonight covers the
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Speaker 1: talking with Charlie Goldsmith and Charlie. I wonder what if
Speaker 1: anything caught your eye in Mike Brown's statement yesterday.
Speaker 2: It was the the nouns and the use of they
Speaker 2: and there. I guess those would be the pronouns. It's
Speaker 2: only the second time, kind of during this modern era
Speaker 2: of Bengals football, that Mike has released a statement like this.
Speaker 2: He had done press conferences and such earlier in his tenure,
Speaker 2: but the first example of this was twenty twenty, were
Speaker 2: coming off, you know, the Joe Burrow injury season. Mike said,
Speaker 2: Dak needs to do better. You know, we trust Zach
Speaker 2: and Duke Copin, who is kind of a face of
Speaker 2: the front office at the time wasn't even mentioned. But
Speaker 2: then following three or four straight off seasons that have
Speaker 2: been you know, nowhere near productive enough. I blame roster
Speaker 2: construction personally much more than coaching on how the Bengals
Speaker 2: are where they are right now. Following all of that,
Speaker 2: Mike Brown named Duke. He said Zack and Duke, he
Speaker 2: said they, he said, they're putting them together. Was really
Speaker 2: something we've never seen before between a head coach and
Speaker 2: a personnel guy whose last name wasn't Brown in the
Speaker 2: history of the Bengals organization.
Speaker 1: Charlie, I thought you made a great point in one
Speaker 1: of your recent like chalkboards, mentioning how it will be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how outside free agents view this situation
Speaker 1: compared to how they viewed it maybe a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Explain, so they're running it back with the same coaching staff, obviously,
Speaker 2: the same front office, and they're betting on the same
Speaker 2: people coming up with different results. And now, what you know,
Speaker 2: we think of that, what you know, the guys in
Speaker 2: the locker room think of that. That doesn't even matter
Speaker 2: as much as what the free agents they're going to
Speaker 2: try to sign and March think of that because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, while money certainly talks, We've
Speaker 2: seen Orlando Brown, Hayden Hurst, and Mike Esicki, Alex Kappa,
Speaker 2: I can name others some very very obvious examples to
Speaker 2: I know just by knowing those guys signed with Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and put a concrete, truth, angible value in the ability
Speaker 2: to compete for championships. In some ways, they were ring chasers,
Speaker 2: and the Bengals had that benefit of a doubt. The Bengals,
Speaker 2: we all know, they know need multiple free agents who
Speaker 2: can impact their defense, and some of them will certainly
Speaker 2: be able to win over with a nice offer, But
Speaker 2: then some of them there's gonna need to be that
Speaker 2: tiebreaker and do the free agents on the market still
Speaker 2: believe in what they see externally going on in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: It will be a case by case basis, but I
Speaker 2: think that's the million dollar questions.
Speaker 1: The theme will certainly be of this offseason fixing the defense.
Speaker 1: I think you could make a case and and argue
Speaker 1: players on all three levels, but is there a priority
Speaker 1: spot in your mind that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2: You knowing these guys and how they view football, and
Speaker 2: how they game plan for opposing teams at an offense,
Speaker 2: how they game plan for defenses, it always starts with
Speaker 2: the defensive front and the pass rush. And over the
Speaker 2: last you could argue even it was the weakness of
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two Bengals is
Speaker 2: while Trey Henderson was awesome, and while Sam Hubbard won
Speaker 2: an incredible Bengals career, really aside from those guys and
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one BJ Hill, you weren't getting enough pass
Speaker 2: rush across the rest of the unit. And that's something
Speaker 2: that when you look at the teams that give the
Speaker 2: Bengals the most trouble, they do it with their defensive lines.
Speaker 2: It's literally the quickest way to impact the quarterback in
Speaker 2: the most straightforward way. So I see the Bengals being
Speaker 2: most aggressive there. I see their biggest need even at
Speaker 2: defensive end, even over something like free safety, and I
Speaker 2: think they'll finally try to get that pass rushing defensive
Speaker 2: tackle as well.
Speaker 1: I think everybody understands the importance of the off season.
Speaker 1: I think you raise another great point. A year ago
Speaker 1: in the off season, they weren't very good at multitasking
Speaker 1: as an organization, were they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bengals kind of had their thesis statement yesterday,
Speaker 2: you know was Dach Taylor's press conference. He said, the
Speaker 2: big thing this year will be year two of Al.
Speaker 2: And he said the scouts know, and Duke knows, and
Speaker 2: I know, and we all have an idea of who
Speaker 2: we are and what we're about. But that idea kind
Speaker 2: of just raises another question, which was you know you
Speaker 2: at that much of a disadv at that much of
Speaker 2: a disadvantage in year one of Olt, Like you know,
Speaker 2: where was the delayed process of getting this coaching stat
Speaker 2: together to how I was in the college football playoffs?
Speaker 2: And then you had to rebuild a staff many of
Speaker 2: them had never worked together, most of whom who've never
Speaker 2: worked together before. Only Al had worked with the Bengals before.
Speaker 2: Among the additions, did it take that long and hamper
Speaker 2: your ability to be as prepared as you needed to
Speaker 2: be for a free agency? Boy, that's not a good
Speaker 2: thing for an organization to have the case about it
Speaker 2: so you know, the answer to what will be better
Speaker 2: this year also raises the question of, man, what was
Speaker 2: going on last year?
Speaker 1: Charlie, Is there something in particular that you are interested
Speaker 1: to hear Duke Tobin address on Friday?
Speaker 2: My biggest question, and I'm going to try to figure
Speaker 2: out the best way to phrase this, is kind of
Speaker 2: why is Duke doing this? No matter what it is,
Speaker 2: whether it's a pass rush scheme or a special teams
Speaker 2: personnel grouping, I always look for what's happening that we've
Speaker 2: never seen before that's interesting to me, And you know,
Speaker 2: obviously was Paul Brown. Paul Brown wasn't going to put
Speaker 2: out a statement about himself speaking as the owner about
Speaker 2: himself as the GM. Mike Brown wasn't going to do that.
Speaker 2: And then really Duke kind of became a face of
Speaker 2: this front office in twenty nineteen and since then, obviously
Speaker 2: there hasn't been a single postseason press conference that featured Dope,
Speaker 2: featured Duke Cobin in this way on the Bengals home turf.
Speaker 2: So what's changed to get to this point? Now? What
Speaker 2: are the different pressure points that leads to this sense
Speaker 2: of accountability that we've never seen represented in the Bengals
Speaker 2: front office before.
Speaker 1: He's Charlie Goldsmith. He is a must read, Charlie for
Speaker 1: those listening who do want to read, how would they
Speaker 1: go about doing that?
Speaker 2: He nailed it up front. Thanks Lance. Charlie Shockward on
Speaker 2: substack Fox nineteen. You can find it there as well.
Speaker 2: The Growler podcast Power Stacks coming back soon with red
Speaker 2: vests coming up. Excited about baseball season as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it has been too long. I always enjoy our conversations.
Speaker 1: Thanks for making time tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you, There you go.
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