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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It is our number three since the three sixty ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. The Hunter Green News Today,

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Speaker 3: if you missed it, he is going to be meeting

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Speaker 3: with doctor Timothy Kremchek and on Monday, doctor Neil elatrosh

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Speaker 3: to talk about stiffness in the right elbow. As of now,

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Speaker 3: he's talked at the ucl AS intact that that's not

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Speaker 3: an issue, but it has brought up a lot of

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Speaker 3: questions around this process and what's going to be happening

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Speaker 3: going forward with Hunter Green and the Cincinnati read So

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Speaker 3: let's talk to someone who's got boots on the ground

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Speaker 3: right now. Austin in Goodyear, Arizona working for the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Inquire nice enough to give us some time right now,

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Speaker 3: Pat Brennan, Pat, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Talk about this day a little bit because we saw

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Speaker 3: Hunter Green last year not his best outing in the

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Speaker 3: final out end of the year. His first spring training

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Speaker 3: out in this year did not go as planned. And

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Speaker 3: now we get this about the elbow stiffness about getting

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Speaker 3: the treatment of the options looked at. What do we

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Speaker 3: know at this point about Hunter Green, Well, we know.

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Speaker 5: What they're calling what the Reds are calling this situation.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if I want to call it

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Speaker 5: an injury yet because they aren't.

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Speaker 4: But it's it's right elbow stiffness.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, that's his throwing elbow, and it's something he's been

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Speaker 5: dealing with. Hunter told us this morning for the last

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Speaker 5: five or six starts of the regular season last year.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure if he includes in that the

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Speaker 5: postseason start, but obviously that that would have been part

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Speaker 5: of it, given the timeline he went into the offseason

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Speaker 5: in as he described it, the discomfort that whatever discomfort

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Speaker 5: he was dealing with seemed to dissipate after he'd been

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Speaker 5: managing it, and then basically showed up to spring training

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Speaker 5: this year and it popped back up on him about

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Speaker 5: a week before spring training actually, and.

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Speaker 4: He's been managing it.

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Speaker 5: Woke up yesterday, was scheduled to throw a side bullpen session,

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Speaker 5: and the stiffness was such that when he woke up,

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Speaker 5: he reported that to the Reds, and at this point

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Speaker 5: they decided that they need to knock this out, whatever

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Speaker 5: it is, and like you said, he's gonna go see

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Speaker 5: Kremcheck and Ella Trash and get an MRI done in

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati later this week.

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Speaker 6: When did the Reds first find out about this? Was

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Speaker 6: it when he woke up to throw yesterday or was

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Speaker 6: it last season?

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't I don't think I

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Speaker 4: know the full timeline there.

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Speaker 5: What Nick Krawl said today as he was addressing the

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Speaker 5: media was that there hadn't been a major deviation in

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Speaker 5: how Hunter had been feeling, including his first start of

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Speaker 5: the spring last week.

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Speaker 4: It really wasn't until.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday morning when Hunter woke up and reported this to

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Speaker 5: the Reds that he conveyed that it was I guess

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Speaker 5: something more than he had been experiencing. It's hard for

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Speaker 5: me to imagine the Reds would not have been aware

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Speaker 5: of this last season.

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Speaker 4: But I want to be clear, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: And that's the hard part too, because if it was

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Speaker 3: aware to the Reds, then the question would be why

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Speaker 3: not just get the imaging done and proactively try to

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Speaker 3: take care of it once the offseason hit. I know

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Speaker 3: that the discomforts and Hunter Green went away, but still

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Speaker 3: with his injury history, would it not maybe be more

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Speaker 3: if there was something more there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you would think so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the the Reds were very careful today. They're

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Speaker 5: really not getting out ahead of this other than I

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Speaker 5: think eventually. Terry Francona conceded that when you look at

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Speaker 5: where we are in the calendar, and we're, you know,

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Speaker 5: tomorrow marks three weeks until opening day, the math doesn't

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Speaker 5: really add up in terms of Hunter Green being available

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Speaker 5: of that yet, but just in terms of being available

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Speaker 5: would have been. The math is not in Hunter's favor

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Speaker 5: now because he's not going to throw for the rest

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Speaker 4: But yeah, again, like.

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Speaker 5: If there was an issue of forthrightness on Hunter's part,

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Speaker 5: some point. I also don't know that to be a

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Speaker 5: would have been wise to knock that out at that time,

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Speaker 5: even if it did dissipate.

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Speaker 6: Sure, he said earlier today Pat that he knows he

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Speaker 6: has bone spurs and that as of now there is

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Speaker 6: no UCL damage. Do we know how he knows that information?

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Speaker 6: Was there a previous MRI. How did they get to

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Speaker 6: the point where they know that the bone spurs are

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Speaker 5: Oh geez, I don't like the sound of this interview,

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Speaker 5: So fark I get don't know, I don't know, I

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Speaker 5: will say, I mean, look, these guys have their entrance physicals,

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Speaker 5: They get poked in produ ahead of a lot. Probably

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Speaker 5: I feel comfortable saying that at least that much. You know,

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Speaker 5: they poked in product more than we do as as

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Speaker 4: So it's it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not totally shocking to me that he would be

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Speaker 5: aware of those things. But again, how that how that

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Speaker 5: jives with what to me certainly was uh a relatively

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Speaker 5: sudden revelation this morning is is uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: a little disconcerting and a little a little confusing.

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Speaker 3: I looked at at how the Reds have gone about

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Speaker 3: this and how you have outlined about you know what

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Speaker 3: was interesting what Hunter Green though had to say about,

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Speaker 3: you know, if something has to be done surgically, he

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Speaker 3: used the term getting it out of the way and

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Speaker 3: and have a big chunk of the season, or if

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Speaker 3: we have a playoff push, I'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Does that become concerning it all of Hunter talking about

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say so, just because Hunter is he's really

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Speaker 7: polished in interview settings. He's I feel like he's had

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Speaker 5: Every word is calculated. So you know, nothing he says

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Speaker 5: and you know, you could also infer from that in

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Speaker 5: he's just being professional and realistic about what the what

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Speaker 5: the possibilities are here.

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Speaker 4: Sure he at one.

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Speaker 5: Point he noted correctly that he is not a doctor.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't He himself doesn't know how all of all

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Speaker 5: of the facts as he understood them today go together

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Speaker 5: and how that's going to impact, you know, the final

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Speaker 4: From Kremcheck and l Trash.

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Speaker 5: So there's just there's a little bit of a waiting

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Speaker 5: game element to this, other than like I said, uh,

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Speaker 5: Terry Francona did kind of you know, acknowledge that the

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Speaker 5: math is not in Honor's favor in terms of making

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Speaker 2: If if it is a substantial amount of time.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about what this means for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the roster, because Hunter even alluded to it, they do

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Speaker 3: have depth at the starting pitcher role. How do you

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Speaker 3: think that that still out now in the absence, however

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I think this is they're about. Look, I

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Speaker 5: don't think any team in MLB is well situated to

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Speaker 5: figures to be in any Cy Young Award conversation.

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Speaker 4: In any given year.

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Speaker 5: This is the top end ace type guy you don't

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Speaker 5: Reds love their depth at starting pitching, and as I

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Speaker 5: see it, they're about as well situated as you possibly

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Speaker 5: could be to And I wrote this to absorb any

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Speaker 4: They're in a good spot.

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Speaker 5: There, I think, and the evidence for that is just

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Speaker 5: that's not a bad thing. And then you know, there's

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Speaker 5: just a list of solid dudes with real meaningful MLB

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Speaker 4: Brandon Williamson, Julian Agie are Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I would even put Chase Petty in there, who's had

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Speaker 4: You can put him out there if needed.

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Speaker 5: And I just if the Reds have to end up

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Speaker 5: patching over hunter Greens spot in the rotation for any

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been determined not.

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Speaker 5: The case yet, but if we get there, Like I said,

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Speaker 5: the Reds are about as well situated to absorb this

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Speaker 6: I would imagine all that being said, being in the

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Speaker 6: the vibe? How's the morale after this news that came

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, guys, look, it's not good news

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Speaker 8: it you know, I'm sure people will be holding their

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Speaker 8: of what this is next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: But you know, all these.

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Speaker 5: Guys have to get their work in and now that

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Speaker 5: the morning's around the complex are shorter. Guys, skip over

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Speaker 4: Just everyone is kind of moving on their own schedule.

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Speaker 5: And you know, some guys playing today they're gonna be

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Speaker 5: they're hanging out. I don't think anyone would take this

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Speaker 5: as a positive though, But guys know, like like Terry Frank,

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Speaker 5: I asked him about the pitching depth, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and he said, yeah, we're not going to throw in

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Speaker 5: the towel. We've worked too hard for this, and guys

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Speaker 5: are still working hard to get ready for this season.

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Speaker 4: And now there is a possibility that getting.

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Speaker 3: And then, but before we let you go, and you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're you're asking about the timeline, yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So so Hunter will go back to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Think the eighth or the ninth.

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Speaker 5: They'll get an MRI in Cincinnati this week and then

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Speaker 4: With here for Hunter.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime And in the meantime, I'll just say

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Speaker 5: they did. They have determined Hunter is not gonna throw

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Speaker 5: no bullpens, no side sessions, no nothing. He's basically they

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Speaker 2: I know, it's it's it's hectic. I know there's a

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the availability to jump on with us. How

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Speaker 4: Well thanks for teeing me up.

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Speaker 4: So check it out if you can.

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Speaker 2: And Pat, thank you so much, man, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go. That's the latest of what

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Speaker 3: we know. I have questions I do too. Very interesting

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Speaker 6: Shout out to Pat. Though he knew, he knew we were,

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Speaker 6: he's gonna get questions.

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Speaker 4: He did have the.

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Speaker 2: Answers to Yeah, that's the one part.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: He was trying like hell, and he made himself available

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Speaker 2: And that's tough too.

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Speaker 3: Like you get this news today and then it's like,

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Speaker 3: all right, we'll update things next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: There's just a lot that's up in the air right

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Speaker 3: Some questions were answered last night on the hardwood, a

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