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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Just as a final attendant to my Last Hour with

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rich and the author of his book, Jordan's Rich

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Speaker 2: Journey John to Chico. The easiest way to get the book, uh,

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Speaker 2: and to get the information you need to get the

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Speaker 2: book is just go to Jordan's website Jordanrich dot com

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rich spelled as sounds dot com. And if you

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Speaker 2: will give you that website Jordan Rich singular just his

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Speaker 2: I thank John to Chico. Now we're going to turn

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Speaker 2: to your physical safety and with us is a guest

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Speaker 2: from a week ago tonight. Actually we had Tim Beard,

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Speaker 2: who's a former CIA agent on the program, and we

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Speaker 2: brought him back tonight so he to take some phone

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Speaker 2: calls from some of you. We interviewed Tim last week,

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Speaker 2: So Tim, welcome back to Night's Side. Thanks for the

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Speaker 2: quick turnaround. Tell us about your career. How does one

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Speaker 2: become a CIA agent? That's I assume not something that

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Speaker 2: call them up and say hey, I'm available. Did they

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Speaker 2: find you, I assume as opposed to you finding them?

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, and thanks for having me back

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Speaker 3: on the show. I really appreciate it. Well, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I had served in the Marine Corps as an officer

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Speaker 3: and the way actually you apply and then a lot

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Speaker 3: of times you just never hear anything. That's the end

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Speaker 3: of it. But I did hear something back, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of those details they keep very close hold, so

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Speaker 3: I can't talk about that. But I had conversations back

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Speaker 3: and forth with them, and then they thought I was

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Speaker 3: going to be a good fit after all the the

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Speaker 3: stuff I went through, and they hired me on and

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Speaker 3: put me through a bunch of training, and then I

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Speaker 3: I was really, really proud to have served as an

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Speaker 3: officer in the Marines, in the Infantry, and that served

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Speaker 3: me very well. All the skills and everything that I

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Speaker 3: learned in the Marine Corps served me well throughout my

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Speaker 3: agency career, all the way until I retired.

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Speaker 5: What years were you in the Marines, if I could.

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Speaker 3: Ask, I was in from ninety to ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that was an interesting time and always an

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Speaker 2: interesting time to be in the Marine Corps.

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Speaker 5: And then you were with the CIA again.

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Speaker 2: If I if I asked you a question that you

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Speaker 2: can't disclose, feel free. But of course you were for

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Speaker 2: the CIA from Whin to win.

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Speaker 3: I left out of the Marine Corps, was trained to

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Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you.

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Speaker 2: Had almost ten years in the Marines in another twenty

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Speaker 2: years in the CIA in round numbers here. Yeah, Oh, absolutely, no,

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Speaker 2: incredible career. And you now have uh, talked on my

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Speaker 2: program about a book. Actually, I believe you're going to

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Speaker 2: do a trilogy of these books. Look twice Your Guide

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Speaker 2: to Staying Safe in an Unsafe.

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Speaker 5: World, Volume one. Uh, let's talk about the book that

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Speaker 5: is out.

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Speaker 3: Here, and that's the big news today today was the

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Speaker 3: release DA so big day for me. The volume one

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Speaker 3: came out. And if people go to my website tim

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Speaker 3: Beard spelled b e ar d Timbeard author dot com,

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Speaker 3: central page and they'll see all three books there. Two

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Speaker 3: came out today in print, ebook and audio form, and

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Speaker 3: so people can get that they want. And that's the

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Speaker 3: Look twice mindset, which is where I've taken all those

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Speaker 3: what I spend over. The fifteen chapters of the remaining

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Speaker 5: So let me come back.

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Speaker 2: Volume two is going to be about Volume three three

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Speaker 2: said would be travel.

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Speaker 5: I assume domestically or internationally.

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Speaker 3: Well it's actually Volume two is your guide to staying

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Speaker 3: safe with tech, travel and natural disasters. So in that

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Speaker 3: call safe tech. Well, I cover, you know, I have

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Speaker 3: your email. I use something called a zero inbox, and

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Speaker 3: under control. Big section on that one cover some travel

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Speaker 3: loved ones out of the way of civil unrest. You know,

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Speaker 3: if that comes to you, how do you get out

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about volume one, the one that

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Speaker 2: is out today and available at your website. Tim Beard,

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Speaker 2: author all one Word dot Com. Look, I when we

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Speaker 2: is it possible to be too aware of your sorroings.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, if if you think about it, and

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Speaker 2: There's weird stuff going on here. So let's uh, let's

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Speaker 2: let's dig in. If you will, Tim, how do you

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Speaker 3: Sure, and that's a great question. This first off, let

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Speaker 3: much harder targets. And that could really affect their quality

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Speaker 3: A meteor could fall on the radio station right now.

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Speaker 3: Is that possible? Sure, it's possible, it's not probable. You

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Speaker 2: For me, it's simple stuff. I am not a high

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Tim Beard, a former Marine Corps captain

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Speaker 2: in an Unsafe World. Let me go to Carol in Randolph. Carol,

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Speaker 2: You're all with author dim Bier. Go right ahead, Carol.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Tim, I'm so glad you wrote this book. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely truly. It's I appreciate the opportunity to chat with

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Speaker 4: Well, want to be born is tim? I never give

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Speaker 2: attached to you. Carol, gotta let you run because I'm

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Speaker 4: On news here than Carol, appreciate cold.

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Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here the number six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: He's written three books that are coming out. Bingo Bango Bongo.

435
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Speaker 2: I guess is what you call? Or seriatomus we would

436
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Speaker 2: say in Latin Volume one, Volume two, and volume three,

437
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Speaker 2: the first one. Look twice your guide to saying stay

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Speaker 2: safe in an unsafe world. Love to hear your suggestions.

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Speaker 2: Carol was a great caller. Feel free coming back on

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Speaker 2: Night's Side right after the news a little late here

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of.

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Speaker 1: The hour Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZY

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Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about your safety in an unsafe world. My

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Speaker 2: guest is Tim Beard. He's a former Marine captain and

446
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: after nine years in the Corps, he spent about twenty

447
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Speaker 2: years in the CIA's former CIA age and he has written

448
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Speaker 2: three books here Volume one, Volume two, and Volume three

449
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: dealing with all sorts of safety shoes. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that we're focusing on a little bit tonight

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Speaker 2: is travel, and i'd like to get you were talking

452
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Speaker 2: which I thought was really interesting about being in a

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Speaker 2: hotel and having to get out of a hotel quickly.

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Speaker 2: I remember being in a hotel many years ago in Houston.

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Speaker 2: We were traveling with the Dukakis campaign in eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: and they told us when we checked in that night,

457
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Speaker 2: well the hotel's closing tomorrow and they're going to start

458
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Speaker 2: knocking the building down, so you really have to be

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Speaker 2: out no later than nine o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 7: And it was I was like, are you kidding me?

461
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Speaker 7: We had to be up early anyway, but it was like, whoa,

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Speaker 7: you know, you just you just never know. One of

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Speaker 7: the points that all of us have experienced is going

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Speaker 7: through at airports security. I find that very unsettling because

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Speaker 7: the rules were always changing.

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Speaker 2: Do you keep your shoes on? Do you take them off?

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Speaker 2: What about your belt with a buck buckle? What do

468
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Speaker 2: you do if you hold your money in your hand

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Speaker 2: do you put it? It seems it's different every time,

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Speaker 2: and there are moments there where you are separated from

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Speaker 2: your cell phone, you're separated theoretically from your.

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Speaker 5: Credit cards, and a lot's going on.

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Speaker 2: Not that I don't trust the TSA agents, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I do, but it seems to me that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people can can end up in confusing situations there.

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Speaker 2: What do you do if I could ask Tim sure

477
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Speaker 2: to try to slow that process down without tying the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Well, things certainly are always going to be changing, and

479
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: you want to try to do your research beforehand. This

480
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: goes back to the whole concept always you always want

481
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Speaker 3: to plan ahead, so know what you're looking at, know

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Speaker 3: where you're going in the airport, especially if it's your

483
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Speaker 3: usual airport, you should know generally where you're going to

484
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Speaker 3: be going, have a command of the airport. One of

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Speaker 3: the things that I like to do I use a backpack,

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Speaker 3: so I'll have I try to I'll have a suitcase

487
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: because especially if I'm going overseas, but even if I'm

488
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Speaker 3: going on a trip in the United States where I

489
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Speaker 3: have to bring a little bit more stuff, I have

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Speaker 3: a bag I check, and then I have a backpack

491
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Speaker 3: because once I check the bag, that's on the airport

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Speaker 3: to be taken care of, and I don't have to

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Speaker 3: worry about that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I just have everything in my backpack. So I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: I always pack it exactly the same way. In the dark,

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Speaker 3: with my eyes closed, I can tell you where everything

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Speaker 3: is in my bag, so I know where to reach

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Speaker 3: to before you go into security. For example, for me,

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Speaker 3: I will take my wallet out of my minimalist wallet

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Speaker 3: that I have in my front pocket. I will take

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Speaker 3: that out. If I think that my belt is going

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Speaker 3: to be a problem, I will take that off and

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Speaker 3: I will put it in my backpack. I will take

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Speaker 3: my keys, and I will put a little carabiner in

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Speaker 3: my backpack that hooks. It's hooked to the backpack itself inside,

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Speaker 3: so I'll just put my keys on that not hearing.

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00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: So I basically have stripped everything down. So if they

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00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: say take your shoes off, no problem at all. If

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00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: there's anything in my pockets, it's all in my bag.

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00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: And so and then my bag. One of the things

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00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: I talk about in the book line the zippers up.

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00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: People go, really, are you going to do something like that?

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00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: I line the zippers up so that with a very

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00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: quick glance, I put the zippers, say, for example, in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the bag, so that way nothing's open,

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Speaker 3: nothing's going to fall out. I can look and see

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Speaker 3: immediately everything's closed with one glance. But that way you

519
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: go to security. Everything is in your bag, your phone

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00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: is in your bag, your credit cards are in your bag.

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Speaker 3: Because you're not really going to have a problem with

522
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: the bag. You can keep your eyes on your bag.

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Speaker 3: You go through the magnanometer and you can look back.

524
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: You can watch your bag come forward, you pick it up,

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Speaker 3: and everything's secure.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling. You're going to go to

527
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Speaker 2: filling Boston. Fill your neck night Side with my guest

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Speaker 2: Tim Beard. You comment a question, philm nice subject.

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Speaker 8: Can I give you a quick hotel story?

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Speaker 5: If it's quick? Sure? Go ahead?

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Speaker 8: Okay. In the Caribbean years ago, I went down there

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Speaker 8: and it's a hotel. It was based on the cliff.

533
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Speaker 8: You walk into the front door of the home. Matt

534
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Speaker 8: the the larvae and it we'll go down like eight

535
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Speaker 8: to ten stories to the beach and it's a backup.

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Speaker 8: You think it'd be safe there. But I when I

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Speaker 8: went in the hotel, I noticed there was these jealousy

538
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 8: windows and I really never liked those because I've seen

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Speaker 8: them pop up pop out by someone doing something to them.

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Speaker 8: So I had a little table. There was a little

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Speaker 8: table on the porch. They ran over a couple of chairs,

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Speaker 8: so I said, I don't like the looks at the

543
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Speaker 8: sooy putting a couple of putting a couple of cans

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Speaker 8: on on the on the on the table and one

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Speaker 8: or two on the chairs, and I just went I

546
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 8: went let it there, and you know, I went to bed,

547
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Speaker 8: and then I was that night on the night and

548
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 8: next night I hated one of the cans get knocked

549
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 8: over and I said, what the heck is this? So

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Speaker 8: I go, I go to the window of the back

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Speaker 8: window where the table is and I pulled a curtain

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Speaker 8: back and there's a guy on my tenth swol veranda.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I know they do it, and I it

554
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 8: was scary. And then they jumped, they threw them, they jumped,

555
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 8: I what are he's doing? And they swore me and

556
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Speaker 8: they jumped over the the balcony and went down like

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Speaker 8: a you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I assumed that that they you were considered.

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Speaker 2: I hope you had your slider log and they weren't

560
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Speaker 2: going to walk in on you.

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Speaker 8: Oh, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes did do you have a question the interesting story?

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Speaker 2: We appreciate Phil, But do you have a question for Tim?

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00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 8: No? So he's good, but I mean they steal everything

565
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 8: off you. The you know, you know, but there's also

566
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 8: things about Carman. You don't get it to. People come

567
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 8: by and offer me money for your house paint and

568
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 8: they they try to rip you off. They have them

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Speaker 8: is scariness, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: All right, will keep listening Phil, because maybe you'll pick

571
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Speaker 2: up some good information from my guest.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, thanks for the story.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate it, all right, thanks for the service.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: Damn one thing that comes to mind with what Phil

577
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: had just said there a lot of it comes back

578
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Speaker 3: to mitigating risk. It sounds like the the architectural design

579
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Speaker 3: of that hotel doesn't lend itself to security. Sounds like

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: a pretty strange circumstance. If you find yourself in that

581
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: kind of a circumstance where you're like I'm uncomfortable here.

582
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: This just doesn't feel right. You probably ought to look

583
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: for another hotel and shift. Even if you know during

584
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: your trip you don't have to stay there, avoid avoid,

585
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: avoid problems, go to another hotel. It's better.

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: The other thing too is I don't know if Phil

588
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: was alone on that trip, but a lot of people

589
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Speaker 2: who I talked to say, I'm going to take a

590
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: trip here, going to take a trip alone you that

591
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: can be a mistake. I mean, I think it's better

592
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: always to be with someone you know, whether it's you know,

593
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: a female friend or a buddy, or someone or another

594
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: family member, you know, just so that you know you

595
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: have someone that can kind of you have two sets

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Speaker 2: of eyes looking looking around. Right or wrong on that

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Speaker 2: in your opinion, Tim.

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely right. My wife, she married for

599
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: a long time and she has basically been trained by me.

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00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: She is another set of eyes. Fantastic. We watch over

601
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: each other, We watch each other's back. Two people can

602
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: do anything together. One person You've got to sleep sometime.

603
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: One person will eventually fall.

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Two people.

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00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: That is that's the way life's built. Two people go

606
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: through life together, and that is a great way to

607
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: really preserve your security. If you get in a situation

608
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: where something's really going wrong, you can go back to back,

609
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: meaning like my wife and I, we can put our

610
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: backs to each other facing opposite directions. I now can

611
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: cover one hundred and eighty degrees from my left to

612
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: my right, and she can do the same thing, and

613
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: then we can talk back and forth and communicate on

614
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: what we're seeing until we can leave an area. It's

615
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: a quick way to provide instant three sixty security, and

616
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: you can do it without looking like two robots. You

617
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: can just kind of move over by each other and

618
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: you can see everything going on and say hey, I

619
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: got you know. You use something called a clock system.

620
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: I cover this in the book, but the clock system

621
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Speaker 3: will say twelve o'clock is to my front, and then

622
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: it's just based on that you can say, hey, i've

623
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Speaker 3: contact at eleven o'clock. We need to go, We need

624
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: to go now, and just by chatting back and forth,

625
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: instantly improved your security. The military does this in some

626
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: of the special ops teams as well. Similar topic with

627
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: you that.

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Speaker 5: With your military background, I'm sure your your wife has

629
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Speaker 5: learned a lot and I don't know if she has

630
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Speaker 5: a military background as well, but I'm sure she's picked

631
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Speaker 5: it up.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't, but she's fantastic orithmosis. All right, we take

633
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Speaker 2: a very quick break here, come back with a final

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Speaker 2: segment with Tim Beard again.

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Speaker 5: The the author is of the book.

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Speaker 2: The book is titled Look Twice Your Guy to Staying

637
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Speaker 2: Safe in an Unsafe World. And Tim your website? Uh

638
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: is I believe Tim Beard author?

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Speaker 5: Is that correct? Dot com? Right?

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Speaker 3: Tim Beard author dot com dot com?

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Speaker 2: Okay, And that way folks can can probably see a

642
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Speaker 2: little bit more of what we're talking about. And sounds

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Speaker 2: to me like you said that these books are available.

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Speaker 5: There's not. There's an e edition as well as a

645
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Speaker 5: printed edition.

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Speaker 3: And right if they if they go to my website

647
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Speaker 3: and they click on the by book link, it takes

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Speaker 3: them to my Amazon Amazon Author Central page, and they

649
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Speaker 3: can see the book Book one is available now. It

650
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: came out today officially. They can buy the e book,

651
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: the audiobook or the print book and they can pre

652
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Speaker 3: order just the ebook for now for the second volume

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Speaker 3: and the third volume. But everything is going to be

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Speaker 3: right on there because it links to my Amazon Author

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Speaker 3: central page.

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Speaker 5: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: I guess Tim Beard, former Marine captain or always a

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Speaker 2: marine and the CIA agent for nearly two decades. If

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Speaker 2: you'd like to try to get through for one more,

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Speaker 2: one or two more questions, feel free Back with Tim Beard.

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Speaker 2: My guest staying safe. Your guide is staying safe in

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Speaker 2: an unsafe world, and I think that world unfortunately gets

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Speaker 2: progressively more unsafe every year.

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Speaker 5: Back on Nightside after.

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Speaker 1: This night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: My guest is that Tim Beard. He's an author also

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Speaker 2: former marine. Again I can't say Marie captain for nine

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Speaker 2: years and as the IA agent for twenty. He's talking

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Speaker 2: about your guy to staying safe in an unsafe world.

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Speaker 2: Let me get to Laurie in Melrose. Laurie gonna get

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Speaker 2: you on here with Tim Beard. What's your comment to question?

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Speaker 5: Laurie?

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Speaker 6: All right, My question is refer two men with the

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Speaker 6: wallet in the front pocket and what you did with

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Speaker 6: the backpack. But a woman has a pocket books sometimes

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Speaker 6: they carry on bag. What does you do with all

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Speaker 6: her stuff? Well the other side of the coin?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, yes, great question, Yeah, the thing was on

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Speaker 3: that there. First off, you probably want to reduce the

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Speaker 3: size a little bit, not have a huge one. I

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Speaker 3: know my wife sometimes carries a larger bag, and then

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Speaker 3: when we travel she'll try to shrink that down some

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Speaker 3: just like I do when I travel with we're carrying

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Speaker 3: our backpack. Sheo a lot of times put that inside

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Speaker 3: her backpack, which further protects it and people can't spot

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Speaker 3: it and say there's a purse. I want to grab

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Speaker 3: their handbag. I want to grab that. They see a backpack,

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Speaker 3: and the backpack you can attach to your body, of course,

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Speaker 3: so that's one thing you can do. You just part

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Speaker 3: of it is about not appearing. It goes back to

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Speaker 3: what we said earlier in the conversation, making yourself a

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Speaker 3: little more of a hard target by controlling that bag,

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Speaker 3: knowing where it's at at all times, having it under

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Speaker 3: your arm, or putting it out of view like in

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Speaker 3: a backpack. That's something I would recommend.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, the trouble is if you have a

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Speaker 6: check you have a carry on bag, and you know

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Speaker 6: and so forth, and I my fuck books are very

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Speaker 6: small and it doesn't hold very much as it is,

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Speaker 6: but still something you know, it's over your shoulder. It's

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Speaker 6: easy to carry. A backpack is not as good for

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Speaker 6: thirty forty year old a twenty year old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I certainly understand that. Just just understand that

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Speaker 3: when you do have a when you have a handbag,

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Speaker 3: that is going to attract attention. There some places overseas,

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Speaker 3: I won't say which country, but there was one where

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Speaker 3: with something Dan mentioned a little bit earlier, and they

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Speaker 3: would come by, essentially on a little motorbike and they

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Speaker 3: had a big, long, sharp knife. There'd be two guys.

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Speaker 3: One would drive, the second one will come behind, and

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Speaker 3: they would take because they don't care about the person

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Speaker 3: has the bag. They take the big long knife and

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Speaker 3: they would cut the strap of the bag, which is

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Speaker 3: going to result in a significant injury to the person

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Speaker 3: who has the bag on their shoulder, who is walking

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Speaker 3: too close to the street with their bag on the

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Speaker 3: street side. They slash it, don't care about what happens

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Speaker 3: the person, take the bag and ride away on the motorbike.

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Speaker 3: And so in that kind of a situation, you want

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Speaker 3: to the buildings and have the bag on the other

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Speaker 3: side and try to lessen yourself from appearing to be

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Speaker 3: a soft target. But you know the thing, what you're

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Speaker 3: saying there there are some challenges with that. If you

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Speaker 3: have a bag and you're traveling, it is going to

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Speaker 3: attract attention. Reduce the size, maybe make it not so flashy.

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Speaker 3: If you have a Louis Baton bag, Cristill's here in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I know they're.

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Speaker 3: Expensive, but that that's something that somebody it comes to.

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Speaker 3: People can have nice stuff, but if you have a

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Speaker 3: Louis Baton bag, you aren't going to get a lot

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Speaker 3: of attention. Some you probably don't want so maybe.

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Speaker 2: Laurie, thank you for the call. Well you got it

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Speaker 2: under the way. Thank you very much. I really enjoyed this, Tim,

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Speaker 2: you did not disappoint I felt last week that would

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Speaker 2: get good phone calls and would have good conversation. The

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Speaker 2: book is look twice your guide to Staying Safe in

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Speaker 2: an unsafe world. But more importantly, just go to the

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Speaker 2: website Timbeard author dot com and you learn about volume one,

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Speaker 2: Volume two, and volume three and Tim, I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time both last week and especially tonight. I hope

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Speaker 2: you enjoyed it as much much as I did.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Thanks for the opportunity. It's been great. Love to

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Speaker 3: do it again sometime.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you will book that I promise you on that one,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. This was a great hour, indifferent from

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Speaker 2: what I do. At eleven, we're going to go talk

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Speaker 2: about with the latest out of Minnesota. So it's always

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Speaker 2: great to take a little break from some tough news.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Tim.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back right after the eleven and we will

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Speaker 2: be talking about the latest in Minnesota. Some meetings out

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Speaker 2: there today. Will those meetings mean anything? We will find

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Speaker 2: out right after the eleven