1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Thoughts on US men's hockey, which, by the way, we 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: got to text in here from Deborah. Good afternoon. I 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: was driving home from Denver a little before four o'clock, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: looking forward to the US Men's Olympic hockey game, which 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: I had recorded on my DVR with no spoiler alert warning. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: The score and our win was blurted out on KOWA. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Ruined my entire day. And you guys try to do 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: better with that, please. From Denborah, Oh, this is Deva. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I guess in retrospect that could have announced we're going 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: to give a spoiler on US men's hockey, But when 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a live sporting event, even if it's in the 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: middle of the day, I guess we live in a world. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, we live in a world now where 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: most people are connected to social media in some form 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: or fashion and get alerts on your phones and all 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. So it's very difficult to completely 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: shut out the world from a live sporting events. Really 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: difficult to do, and it's been an one of the 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: reasons why I tend to not go watch games back 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: except for the Broncos games, which is probably because of 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: what we do. Because once you know the outcome, it 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: does lose a little bit of its momentum and how 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: much you enjoyed it. But apologies to Debra. I guess 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: we could have announced spoiler alert. But the fact is 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: live sports and I'm not going to ever avoid mentioning 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: what's going on in a live game in the midst 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: of the show, just because of the few people out 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: there that are maybe dvring and there there's only there's 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: only so much we can do to protect that. 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: I guess my one word of advice if you are 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: ever you know, recording something and don't want to find 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: out the score or what's going on, it's not going 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: on social media, like completely stay away from that and 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: then just listen to your own music in your car. 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: Because obviously, when the United States makes a you know, 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: makes a goal to win the game, you know we're 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: going to be excited for It's the Olympics. So I 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: feel like it's part of the job description to inform 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: everybody listening about what just happened. 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not for what it's worth. We're not going 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: out of our way to try to ruin your day, Debra, 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Like I I didn't come into today's show saying, you know, 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: I know there's somebody out there that it's gonna be 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: so angry at this decision, and that's the person that 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I really want to make mad. It's not even that, 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: it's it's much much more innocent than that. It's much 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: more of we are we talk sports. We're enjoying US 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: men's hockey. They're run to hopefully the goal. They're playing 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: in the semi finals, and again this is spoilert for me. 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but they're gonna be playing the semi finals. 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see that match that it's gonna 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: be Slovakia that's coming up here in a couple of days. 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: And then of course Canada is gonna play Finland. But yeah, man, 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm just just excited about it. And in 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: the moment we had Dave on and I want to 56 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: talk to Dave about it because I know he's following 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: it as well, even if he's in Mexico, in Mexico 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: enjoying his vacation, just saying, so, yeah, it wasn't wasn't 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: trying to ruin your day, Debra. I'm sorry that ruined 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: your day, and I guess we'll try to do our 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: best to announce spoilers before we give out any course 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: in the I think you should be okay. I think 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: she'll be all right five six six Zeros or Kae 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Collas pretty all text. I know, if you want to 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: interact with anything that we've been doing. We talked about 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos free agency when I mentioned that article earlier 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: from Nick Cosmiter. You went through several players, and I 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: mean the most prominent ones make sense. Would you bring 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: back JK. Dobbins? That's when I wanted to ask you. 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 2: It just depends on what your plan is at running back. 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: Are you planning on going big and trying to bring 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: in a Briest Hall Oh, you know what I mean, 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: like a guy like that. Or if you aren't and 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: you want to spend that money and you liked what 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: you got out JK. Dobbins, which I think we all 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: liked what we saw out of JK. Dobbins when he 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: was healthy, And if you want to do that and 78 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: then spend that money else where, I don't think that's 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: a bad idea eaither. But the one thing I think 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: that everybody wants to see is the run game get better. 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: And I don't think anyone really cares about who's in 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: there and doing it. But I think there's different options 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: on the way they can go about it. But I 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: think JK. Dobbins will be somewhere and he will be 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: running the rock next year. It's just it'd be hard 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: to believe that he can be your only back just 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: based off of his injury history. 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, even just pairing with RJ. Harvey, I would 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: want another person in the room. Like whether whether you 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: draft somebody, you bring another free agent down, I don't know, 91 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: but there's got to be somebody else. 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we saw them. Even when they were you know, 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: it was JK. Dobbins and r J. Harvey, he still 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: got hurt. So you know, I think JK is really 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: going to have to have a full year to really 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: prove everybody that he can be every down back and 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: be around for the whole season. But until then, you know, 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: people are going to be wondering about are there other 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: options that can be available more often. Now we can 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: talk about Breeste Hall, but Breese Hall has injury history too, 101 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: So it's just I think it's part of the position. 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Keneth Walker has injury history. 103 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's part of his position you get hit 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: every time you touch the ball every time. So I 105 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: just you know, I like the way that JK. Dobbins played, 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: and I think he would fit in you know, obviously 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: great again, but one you know one name that I've 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: loved and you showed it to me yesterday, DeAndre Swift. 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I think he that The way he runs because we 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: played obviously in Cleveland, we played Chicago this year. The 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: way he runs, I think would be perfect for this 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: old line and the way that they move. You don't 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: have a bunch of fast, you know, guys on your 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: old line right now, and and and and DeAndre Swift 115 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: is a guy that can hit it in between the 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: tackles and he has a little bit of speed to 117 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: make things work. I think it'd be a great pick, 118 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: but obviously if that's if you choose to move on 119 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: from JK. 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: Dobbins. 121 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: There's an ESPN article recently that paired the Broncos with 122 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: Rico Daddle and the thing I like about Rico Dawdle 123 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: is is he's a complete back, as in, you're not 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: tipping your hand too much of what he's doing when 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: he's in the game. He can catch passes out of 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: the backfield. He's good in pass pro and obviously he 127 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: runs pretty effectively between the tackles, average about four and 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: a half yards per carry, and he's done that pretty 129 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: consistently over the course of his career. Just got done 130 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: with a one year deal in Carolina, rushed for over 131 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: one thousand yards and Dallas the previous year over a 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: thousand yards. I mean, he can be a very good 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: running back. He's probably not going to be somebody that 134 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: banks the breaks the bank for you. 135 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he would be. But I don't 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: think he would be a guy that's going to break 137 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 2: the bank. But also it's a guy that definitely should 138 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: spin the wheels on and go maybe see what he 139 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: can do. I'm looking at it, you know, I'm on 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: sport tracks, of course, and market values six point five million, 141 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: that significantly less than Briest Hall and DeAndre Swift would 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: probably get around eight, you know, seven and eight. And 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I think if you have other areas of your team 144 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: that you want to invest money in, I think this 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: would be a great look a person that could come 146 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: in and kind of replace the JK. Dobbins and then 147 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 2: also PAIRM with R. J. Harvey. And also I wouldn't 148 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: be tried to go in draft and another running back, 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, they're going to bring competition in 150 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: because obviously what they had at the running back position 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: last year wasn't enough. So the idea that no matter what, 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: they're going to sign somebody and draft somebody, and so 153 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: it's going to be a complete position battle once the 154 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: season starts, and I think it's is just gonna make 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: everybody else better. 156 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I completely agree, So it'll be fascinating from that perspective 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: on how invested is is that a terribly deep running 158 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: back class that like last year where there were gonna 159 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: be a lot of options at running back in the draft, 160 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: this year it's it's not so much. I mean, there's 161 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: there's gonna be loved, is gonna be the Day one guy, 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: and you can get into Day two, maybe take a 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: couple of guys, and then after that it's it's kind 164 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: of just as a handful of players. It's not like 165 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: last year where you knew there was gonna be five 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: six guys by Day one and Day two. So I 167 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: do think that impacts a little bit. But it's a 168 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: really good free agent class. That's why it's a little 169 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: more intriguing because it's a very good free agent class 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: mentioned Bresall, Kenth Walker, Traves Etn it's technically free agent 171 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Javante of course we know him, Rico, o'dowdell, Rashad White, 172 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: James Cook, Naji Well not James Cook, Najie Harris, Tylerrel's year, 173 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: We've talked about him. You mentioned DeAndre Swift. This it's 174 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: a really big free agent running back class. So the 175 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Broncos could bring back JK. Dobbins assume that means they're 176 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: probably gonna go with a draft pick as well with R. J. Harvey, 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: Rico Dawdell, I think would be a little bit of 178 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: a step up from there. Or they could swing big 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: and then go Breesce Hall or Keith Walker, which I'm 180 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: starting to wonder if brees Hall doesn't actually even free agency, 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: like he gets tagged, and then Kenneth Walker they've said 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna test, but he still could ultimately 183 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: come back. 184 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: We'll see, we will see it. 185 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: But what I'm seeing of the draft, and this is 186 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: what happens if you have a strong free agency like 187 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: of a a position. Sometimes you know that just means 188 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: that the draft is in a strong either And but 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: really what I see is I see one first round 190 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: running back. The rest are going to be as a 191 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Day two or Day three picks, which I haven't seen 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: something like this in a long time, where it's just 193 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: everyone knows Jerry might love top five pick. The only 194 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: way that we'll see some guys move up from the 195 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: bottom here is that the combine. If we see some 196 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: guys who up, they're running four to two or for three, 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: we'll fix with quickness and size. Then those some of 198 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: those Day three picks become Day two or even some 199 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: of the Day two might become late first. 200 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it's such a massive drop off from Jeremiah Love 201 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: to the next guy exactly. 202 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: So that's why you know, just like we were talking 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: about last year, I'm going to beach between like R. J. 204 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: Harvey and women Henderson. We talk about Amy and Hampton 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: to all these guys, and these are all guys in 206 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the knicks. 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: We have one guy. 208 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: We have one guy this year, So I wouldn't be 209 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: surprised to see teams Tyle ales you actually get more 210 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: than what he's supposed to because of how weak is 211 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: running that classes. 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: That's a fantastic point you're at You're absolute right, and 213 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: it usually goes hand in hand, doesn't it. Draft classes 214 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: deep at a position, all of a sudden you get 215 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: to free agency and some of like so off the 216 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: ball linebackers for example, we're just talking about it. It's 217 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: a great draft for that, great draft for edge, great 218 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: draft for a even interior defensive line, which sometimes can 219 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: impact the way free agency goes. 220 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like you know, this year, it's not the 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: strongest defensive tackle draft. 222 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: But there's not even there's not a lot of Shelby 223 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: Harris is out there. 224 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: There's only one, and you only need to one. I 225 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: don't know, but actually there's two of us, the Shelby 226 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: and a Shelby Harris junior. But that's that's about as 227 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: much as the world needs right now. We don't need 228 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: anymore Shelby's, so I can only imagine my wife's having 229 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: to do it more. 230 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no doubt about it. Adam Rake, who 231 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: we love Adam Rake with NFL Network. He was on 232 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: the program during Super Bowl Week and he gave he 233 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: gave a breakdown of three teams, the Bears, the Broncos, 234 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: and the Jags of three teams who were in the 235 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl window, he wake that face. Hmmm. 236 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: I just well, he's Jags. 237 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: I was just saying to Jags. Until I'm in a 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: position with the Jacks, until they do it, I'm never 239 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: gonna believe they can. 240 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he's a Bears fan, so he's got I 241 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna wreck them. But you 242 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: don't believe in the Jacks. Huh. 243 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: No, is this because Trevor Lawrence has had what six 244 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: years approved that he can lead a team, and I 245 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: do think he still can. I just think that in 246 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: order for them to be successful, like it's shown that 247 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: you need a lot more talent around him in order 248 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: to be succepted this. Think about the team he had 249 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: a Clemson and the guys he had like that. That's 250 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: when he was successful when he had playmakers at running 251 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: back and receiver, a tight end. And so that's tough 252 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: to do in this league. And I have a full 253 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: offense full of playmakers. And so I think if Trevor 254 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: starts using his legs a little bit more, kind of 255 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: like a Drake May, then you start seeing the Jags 256 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: have more succes, especially in the playoffs, because when you 257 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: can scramble and make plays. In the playoffs, it's hard 258 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: to beat you. If it's thirty and fifteen and you 259 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: scrambled for thirty, you just took all the life blood 260 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: out of the defense. And so Trevor Fast he should 261 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: use his legs. He has one of the best arms 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: in the league. 263 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: We know. 264 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: That's why he was an easy number one overall pick. 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: This is a matter of him putting it all together, 266 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: which I really feel like he will eventually do. I 267 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: think Liam Cohen's onto a great start with them, but 268 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: it's just I don't know if it's just because they're 269 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Jaguars to he canple be honest, I just feel like 270 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: it's because they're they're Jaguars and you're used to them 271 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: not being good the ideas. Until they actually are good, 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: you won't believe in them. Yeah, that was so cringing. 273 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: So if you're a player, I don't know. I don't 274 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: want to like audition on Liam Cohen too much. But 275 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: if you're a player like, oh man, what is this 276 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: year going to be? 277 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: You know, some coaches and squares, it's okay, you know 278 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: what I mean, It's just how it is. I'm not 279 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm not here because of you're a cool guy. I'm 280 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: here because obviously you know how to coach football fair enough. 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: So here's Adam talking about Now, he was talking about 282 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: how that they need to add a wide receiver and 283 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: he kind of has a little bit of fun with this. 284 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: But I want I wanted to play this in part 285 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: because though he makes a good point, I think it's 286 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: a little misguided. I'll explain. Let's go to another. 287 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: Quarterback who gets disrespected way too much, and let's talk 288 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: about bow Knicks. And I know a lot of you 289 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: think that anybody could quarterback the Denver Broncos. I'm sorry, 290 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: I think the AFC Championship Game proved that is not 291 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: the case. Bow Knicks is an excellent quarterback. 292 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: He went out there. 293 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: Got the number one seed for the Denver Broncos. An 294 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: he did it with a trio of wide receivers that 295 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: included Courtland Sutton, Troy Franklin, and Pat Harvey. 296 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: And that last one was a trick because Pat. 297 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,359 Speaker 4: Harvey is a local journalist Karen, Los Angeles. 298 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: You didn't even know that. 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: You just went along with it, like yeah, Pat Harty, No, no, no, 300 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: you didn't have Pat Harvey on your fantasy team. And yeah, 301 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: bo Nicks went out there and did it. They gotta 302 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: go out right now. They got to fortify that wide 303 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: receiver room if there is somebody out there who could 304 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: mount it on. Not you, Tyreek Hill, We're not bringing 305 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: you into this situation, but you go out there, get 306 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: a big name, Hey, Mike Evans, somebody like. 307 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: That who could be available. 308 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: They improved that wide receiver room and the Denver Broncos 309 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: will be even better next season. 310 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so I understand what he's what he's saying there, 311 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: and then again Pat Bryant, RJ. Harvey have a little 312 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: bit of fun there. On one hand, I think we'd 313 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: all like to see more talent to the room. I 314 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know if that's exactly where they're gonna go this offseason. 315 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: It feels like tight end running back is probably going 316 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: to be the focal point. But for a moment, when 317 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: you put together a roster, and the way, especially Sean 318 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Payton has done, I hate to echo Ben Albright here, 319 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: but Ben has said for a long time the way 320 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Sean Payton likes to build a roster, especially from the 321 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver room, is you have one guy that gets 322 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: paid quite a bit of money and then you're really 323 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: surrounding him with certain types of players. You have a 324 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: speed guy that takes the top off, You've got a 325 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: possession guy. I mean, you have certain guys, guys that 326 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: will block right. You have the little Jordan Humphries of 327 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: the world and Pat Bryan's and guys out there that 328 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: will make some contested catches. But for the most part, 329 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a design that you have really kind of one 330 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: receiver one x and then you have a bunch of 331 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: other kind of miscellaneous receivers that they fill important roles. 332 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to have a bunch 333 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: of name guys on this roster going forward. And typically speaking, 334 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: most NFL rosters aren't like that. Most NFL rosters have 335 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: your one or two kind of maybe star players, but 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: good top end wide receivers, and then you have a 337 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: bunch of players that sort of fill out the roster. 338 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Back Michael Bandy today, like, that's a move the Broncos made. 339 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to bring back headlines. You know why, 340 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: because he's the practice squader wide receiver for you. But 341 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: he matters to the overall construction of your roster. So 342 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: on one hand, yeah, Adam makes a point that we'd 343 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: like to see more star talent, more star power there 344 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: with the wide receivers. I just don't know the town 345 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: are going to build it. 346 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just when it comes to you know, even going 347 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: to his idea about Mike Evans, well, it wouldn't necessarily 348 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: make sense to me because you have Courtland said it 349 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: and they're kind of the same receiver, especially at disappointing 350 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Mike Evans's career, and you know, you could you know, 351 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: talk about star power. 352 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: I believe Marvin Mems could. 353 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: Give you that if he actually you know, he has 354 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: to improve though as a receiver because he has to 355 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: speed that, you know, to take off the top speed. 356 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: But the issue is we need to see it all 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: the time at receiver, and so do you go if 358 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: you were to go get another receiver, I think you 359 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: would want to go get another speed receiver, someone that 360 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: could take the top off the defense, you know, and 361 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: another gadget type guy that can hopefully push Marvin Mims 362 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: to be the receiver that everyone's hoping he can be. 363 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: Because if you can get Marvin Mims to its full 364 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: potential with Courtland doing the dirty work and going and 365 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: getting you know, the jump balls and that's really what 366 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: most teams need. Now they obviously have to figure out 367 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 2: what their plan is going to be A tight end 368 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram experiment didn't work out this year. Will it 369 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: be better going in the year two? Will he be 370 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: there going in near two? Who knows? But I think 371 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that we have to focus on and 372 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: what the Broncos should focus on when it comes to 373 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: receivers is the development of Marvin Mems Junior. 374 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: I like that, no, I really do. And he's going 375 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: in the last year of his deal, by the way, 376 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: so maybe it's a motivation for Marvin Mims did not 377 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: and he's and I've talked to him for years. I mean, 378 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be just a returner. Like he's 379 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: very good at that, and he'd find work in the 380 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: league regardless, because he's shown to be an All Pro 381 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: and a Pro Bowl returner and every team, every team 382 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: is always looking for that. But Varvin Mims wants to 383 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: be more than just a returner for this team. 384 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to see him be the guy. You 385 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: want to be able to also see him take deep 386 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: balls but also catch it five yards front of the 387 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: line scrimmage and then go sixty yards. You want to 388 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: see him become that complete receiver, which we haven't seen yet. 389 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: But you have one more year. But even with obviously 390 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: Marvin Mems going into that last year, you're going to 391 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: want to draft somebody. You have Pat Bryant, but he 392 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: already had how many concussions this year? 393 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: Three? 394 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: And anytime you talk about concussions, you gotta be worried 395 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: about the future of a player. Yeah, so you got 396 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: Troy flancun We'll see what that happened, what happens with 397 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: that next year, But right now, it seems like after 398 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: next year, you're really going to have a needed receiver, 399 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: so you're going to have to draft. You're gonna have 400 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: to draft one anyway, and. 401 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: So but you you're rare to see the just make 402 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: sure because we talked about AJ Brown and why Yeshually 403 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: would you rather see the Broncos draft and develop, continuing 404 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: to add to the depths and just kind of continue 405 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: to move these guys along, or would you make a 406 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: swing take a big swing on a VT. 407 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: I'll say like this, if you go off the Devin Lloyd, 408 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: then you should make the AJ Brown trading, okay, because 409 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: that means you're going all in. You're going all in 410 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: trying to trying to win, and we already know once 411 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: bonus is on this rookie deal, once you get past that, 412 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: people are getting cut. This team will not look anywhere 413 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: close to the same as they are right now. So 414 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: if you're going to go all in, and like we 415 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: were talking about with the Devin Lloyd signing, then that 416 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: means go all in at receiver, go all in at 417 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: tighten like, go all in while you have the chance. 418 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I do show me feel the same way. You want 419 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: to make people's day better. 420 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't mind talking some trash and making 421 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: people mad. 422 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: That's true. You're pretty good about that. 423 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: I enjoy it. 424 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no apologies needed, duh on her part. Give me 425 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a break. Don't talk about the end of ending of 426 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: Titanic again. She may have not seen it. That's actually 427 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: very funny. 428 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: That's actually good. I'll give him that. 429 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: And you know we did that yesterday. We were talking 430 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: about Titanic and Forrest Gump and we did give some spoilers, 431 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: and yesterday, in fairness, I did announce, hey, spoiler, this 432 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: is how Forrest Gump ended. So maybe I need to 433 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: be better about announcing us men's hockey. If it's just 434 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: playing at the same time as our show, I gotta 435 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: be better about saying, hey, spoiler. 436 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 3: Mm hm, He's be like, do he do spoiler? 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Apparently? Well again, Sorry, Debra, I'm sorry. Five six six 438 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: nine zero was our ka common spirital text line. I 439 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: want to read this one text before we hear from 440 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: Chris Bryant, who recently spoke up about some of the 441 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: injury stuff that he's been dealing with. Of course, we 442 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: already know he's on the sixty day IL with back injury. 443 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: If Nick's Greenlaw and Dobbins stay healthy, the wide receiver 444 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: room stops dropping balls. Broncos are in this super Bowl 445 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: and possibly champs. But a draft guy's as good as 446 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Judy and Veley. Don't give up on them. Get Barren 447 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: on the field now. Building the draft for next year. 448 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Offensive line and proven and run game is key more 449 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: than tight end or wide receiver. That's my two cents. Yeah, 450 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: I'd say the Broncos probably agree with you. I say 451 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: that the heaviest my view on it is the heaviest 452 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: investment will be in the running back room this offseason. 453 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I believe so. I believe it other be in the 454 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: running back room or a linebacker. But I really believe 455 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: with how the how it worked out last year, you'll see. 456 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: A full on, you know, full force. 457 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: Fledge ahead, you know, effort at getting a top tier 458 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: running back. Which I'm not saying that R. J. Harvey 459 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: can't turn into something. There's a lot of running backs 460 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: that you know, have average first years and they've really 461 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: come strong after. But with the way that they couldn't 462 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: run the ball, I just can't see them going another 463 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: year without trying to find an answer for that. 464 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Completely agree. We'll come back to that again. To Mark Becaus, 465 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Shelby's canna be back in with us, But I wanted 466 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: to play this sound of Chris Bryant. He was being 467 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: interviewed right off the field Salt River Fields down there 468 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: by the way Friday for a spring training game. We're 469 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: excited about that. We'll carry it right here on KOA 470 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: starting at one o'clock. But here's Chris Brian talking about 471 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the pain that he's been dealing with. It's difficult, it's. 472 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: Not easy waking up in pain every day. So yeah, 473 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: so now we're here and I think just trying to 474 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: determine the next steps while I'm here and with the 475 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: training staff and the doctors. 476 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: So he's got a degenerative disc disease that has obviously 477 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: been ailing him for several years now, and it's chronic 478 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: is something that, as he pointed out there, he wakes 479 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: up every day in pain. Now say all this because 480 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: Chris Brian is listed among many, not only Rockies fans, 481 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: but just sports fans, as one of the worst contracts 482 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: in the history of anything. Really, like the one hundred 483 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: and eighty two million dollar contract that he got for 484 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: the Rockies. He's only played one hundred and seventy games 485 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: since twenty twelve or twenty twenty two when he got here, 486 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: So he's he's been here for five years and he's 487 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: played in a handful of games. Is not nearly commiserate 488 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: with the value of what he has paid. I think 489 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: my take on this very quickly before I get yours. 490 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I think multiple things can be true. I think you 491 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: can have empathy for Chris Bryant and what he's dealing with, 492 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: and simultaneously, I think my biggest issue is really the 493 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: contract from the very beginning, because it felt like a 494 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction to losing Nolan Arnado, Like you felt 495 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: like Dick Monfort felt like, I have to give the 496 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: fans this thing because we just moved on from Nolan Arnado, 497 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: a cornerstone player of the franchise, and I've got to 498 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: go out and make a splash move, just to make 499 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: splash move. And so you got a guy that was 500 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: on a bit of a decline in his career, that 501 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: had been dealing with injuries. You thought, well, we get 502 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: him here and it'll be fine, but come to find out, 503 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, this stuff is gonna follow him. 504 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: And so now that contract looks like an albatross on 505 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: an organization that has been struggling. And so those are 506 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: both true statements in my opinion that it's a bad 507 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: contract that unfortunately you don't have a way out of. 508 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: And simultaneously I feel bad for the guy. 509 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I feel I feel bad for him 510 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: because one, you can't control if you get hurt, and two, 511 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: you can't control the fact that they paid you all 512 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: that money. And so I get it all the expectations 513 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: that come with a contract like that, but you can't 514 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: control if you have a back issue. You know you 515 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: can't control that, and you know it's it can't feel 516 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: good on his end, not being able to go out 517 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: there and play, but also, what do you want him 518 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 2: to do, like go out there while he's hurt and 519 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: try to play and then be even worse and then 520 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: give you more to complain about about him. Like I 521 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: feel for the guy because think about it, like waking 522 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: up every day in pain, constant pain, and it's his back, 523 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: so it's imagining the twisting you have to do every 524 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: swing Like that's just I wouldn't wish that on anybody. 525 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: So I understand, like I completely understand the frustration from 526 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: a lot of Rockies fans just because you paid a 527 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: lot of that money and not getting any return even 528 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: but there's nothing he can do about it. And it's 529 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: not his fault that he got hurt, and it's not 530 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: his fault that they paid him that deal. So you know, 531 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: all the stuff we're talking about now is none of 532 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: his fault. He just got hurt, and that's part of 533 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: the game. That's why you do physicals, that's why you 534 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: have your own medical team, and you get to make 535 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: decisions based off of that. You made this decision, he 536 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: ended up having this disk issue in his back. We 537 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: are we're here, So how do you fix it because 538 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: you're gonna like and this is the difference between football 539 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: and baseball. You gotta pay him that anyway. It's guaranteed, 540 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: it's guaranteed. You know, he retires today, he still gets 541 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: all of it. So this is this is what it is. 542 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: So no pointing and complaining about the deal because it's done. 543 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: And will he ever play again? Who knows. But I 544 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: don't think there's any cure for this. So it's all 545 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: about trying to find a way to be comforted. But 546 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: we see a lot of times the worst thing to 547 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: hurt is your back, because a lot of people always 548 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: talk about your back never really gets better. Like once 549 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: people have a bad back, it's never. You don't really 550 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: ever know anyone that used to have a bad back. 551 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: You have a bad back, And so this is going 552 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 2: to carry This is going to follow him the rest 553 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: of his career. And I just hope, you know, just 554 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: for him, I just hope, regardless of baseball, he's able 555 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: to have a good quality of life without pain. 556 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: It's one of those deals where if the Rockies were better, 557 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: if the Rocky were not, coulda be the dodgery. But 558 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: just like if you were a competitive team, right and 559 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: not suffering one of the worst most embarrassing seasons of 560 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: your franchise history of baseball history, then this would be 561 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: one of those, like a man, it's such a bummer 562 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: that we made this investment and a guy that's just 563 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: not able to play. But because of what you are 564 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: and what you've been, this just it's such an indication 565 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: of all of it's and it just it further drives 566 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: that dagger into the back to have your highest paid 567 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: player not available to play for you, and again, understand it, 568 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: and it will go down like if he never steps 569 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: inside the diamond he ever again, and he never plays 570 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: for this team and you just paid him one hundred 571 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: and eighty two million dollars and he gives you nothing else, 572 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: then yeah, it's gonna go down. And it's gonna be 573 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: listed on all those articles that always come out of 574 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: what's the worst contract ever handed? Out? Right, this will 575 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: be in that conversation and he'll he'll wear that too, 576 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: but so well of the organization. But it doesn't change 577 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: what it is is the guy can't get on the 578 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: field because of this injury. So I guess I have 579 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of empathy for him. But if anything, 580 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: if I'm pointing the finger. I'm pointing the finger at 581 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: the Rocky saying this is one of those deals where 582 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: you've got to find a way through your farm system, 583 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: through your development to mitigate it. That's on you, because 584 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: we're past the point of information. Now we know what 585 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: he is. What are you gonna do about it? Because 586 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: you can't just keep saying, well, we got Chris Brian 587 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully he can come back and he can be 588 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: our savior. That's not it. He's not gonna be that 589 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: for you. 590 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Or are they just putting him out there so that 591 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: he keeps getting the blame. That doesn't mean do they 592 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: keep putting his face everywhere so he keeps getting a 593 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: blame and they don't realize that he didn't force them 594 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: to pay him. You know, I'm looking at his stats 595 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: and in his you know, all four seasons with the 596 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: Rockies so far, he pretty much has just as many 597 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: plate appearances as he did in twenty sixteen with the Cups, 598 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: like in one ear. And as a competitor, that just 599 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: you obviously feel like you're letting your team down because 600 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: especially when you go to a small market team, you know, 601 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: when they hand out a deal like that, that's you're 602 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: the highest paid player. You're supposed to be the guy. 603 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: Just like in Milwaukee where Christian Yellis when Yellow tied 604 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: these couple down years, the franchise started to freaking out 605 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: a little bit because they're like, we don't have the 606 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: money to go pay another guy like this. We need 607 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: this to work. And that's kind of where the Rockies 608 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: are right now. Bars Simpson, Oh yeah, that's the rap name. 609 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Well kind of like the stage name. 610 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: Okay, Bars, Bars, not Barns Bars. My camera name is 611 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: Miles Long, but it's a different. 612 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Camera blanket, all right, wet blanket. All right, Well that's 613 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: a different kind of yeah, and I get it out 614 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: high Ben. How are you doing? When are you get in? 615 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: The haircut? 616 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: Sunday? 617 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: Nice? Leading for the combine on Monday? 618 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, freshly shorn, sheep's wool, very good. 619 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: What's coming up on the show tonight? Uh? Sean Kiler, 620 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: you gonna be on the show. 621 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: Okay, We're gonna do Uh, We're gonna go through the Broncos, 622 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 6: look at the restructure, candidates, trade cut candidates, that kind 623 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 6: of stuff. 624 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: All right, looking forward to that. We were just talking 625 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: about Chris Bryant a moment ago and playing the sound well, 626 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: because you're playing the sound of him talking about how 627 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: he wakes up in pain every day talking about it. 628 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: It's his degenerative issue with his back. Yeah, and you 629 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: know it was interesting. It's kind of a mixed on 630 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: the text line. Some people are so very frustrated, but 631 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I think it's more frustration. It should be more frustration. 632 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: Pointed at the Rockies specifically, more so than Chris Bryant. 633 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Rockies had their their site set on Chris Bryant. He 634 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: was one of those things like they were just gonna 635 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: go get him. 636 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 6: I've never understood why you moved off the best third basement, 637 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 6: says Brooks Robinson to go get Chris Bryant. But they 638 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: had it in their hand that that was what they 639 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 6: are doing and okay, and it did not work out. 640 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: This didn't make any sense. Well, they gave they gave 641 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: away Nolan and you want some extra stuff to it 642 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: and cash, Yeah, we gave away Norlan. 643 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 6: Aernado paid the Cardinals to take him and then they 644 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 6: were like, all right, let's pay Chris Bryant now. And 645 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 6: the Cubs were like, oh okay, and the Giants, sure, 646 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: we've seen his medicals here more than welcome to no. No, 647 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 6: by the way, playing with the Arizona Diamondbacks now, yeah, 648 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 6: so the Rockies will see him a little bit division 649 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 6: back in the division I listened. 650 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: We could have debates I guess round the sun about 651 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: all time Rockies. Arenauto is going to be in that 652 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: conversation for I mean, maybe somebody has, I don't know, 653 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe you've got Todd heldon higher or Walker, you know maybe, 654 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: but iron I was probably my all time greatest Rocky. 655 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean for the nostalgia factor, you're probably 656 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 6: going the other guys. But in terms of the best 657 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 6: talent they've ever had come to the organization of Serrando, 658 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 6: not even close. 659 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 660 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: That team, those teams with Troy tu Lewitski and DJ 661 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: LeMay here, I mean they were stabed. 662 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 6: Had any if they could find any semblance of pitching, 663 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 6: any a shred of pitching at that point in time, 664 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 6: they'd have been competitive. 665 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: In true the way they and we'll probably have some 666 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: time to talk about this in the upcoming days, the 667 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: way they've constructed this pitching rotations, I'm kind of intrigued. 668 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: They got some guys that can eat some innnings. I'm 669 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be okay there, but they're not 670 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: flashy names by any stretching the imagine nation. Gretz, fantastic job. 671 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: As always, my friend, Shelby. Able to see you tomorrow 672 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: will three o'clock BC TXT