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Speaker 1: Hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sports Talk with your host

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Speaker 1: Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Well, here we are and here we sit now, just

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Speaker 2: two weeks away from selection Sundays. Selection Sunday, two weeks

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Speaker 2: from tonight at six, we'll know who the number one

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Speaker 2: seeds are, will know who goes where, and will know

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Speaker 2: whether or not Miami gets a birth in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting story. It's a narrative. I know

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Speaker 2: they don't like at Miami, but the MAC traditionally only

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Speaker 2: has one team that goes in the field of sixty eight.

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Speaker 2: So the question becomes with Miami, do they have to

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Speaker 2: run the field in their tournament? In the MAC tournament?

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Speaker 2: What happens if they lose, for example, against Toledo Tuesday

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Speaker 2: night or against Ohio at Ohio this coming Friday night.

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Speaker 2: It is one of the gross inconsistencies and unfairness of

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Speaker 2: an en tournament. But you hope, you hope if they

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Speaker 2: don't win their tournament arrive at the MAC Conference Championship unbeaten,

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Speaker 2: you hope that the committee looks at it and says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, there are very very few teams like

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Speaker 2: this team that has had this season. But we'll find out. Miami,

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Speaker 2: of course winning on Friday night, beating Western Michigan almost

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Speaker 2: at the buzzer, sixty nine sixty seven. That was a

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Speaker 2: road game in Kalamazoo last night, or more specifically, yesterday

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Speaker 2: afternoon in fifth third Arena UC went to a ninety

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Speaker 2: one sixty eight when they've won five of their last six.

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Speaker 2: They've got BYU on Tuesday. But it's interesting. It used

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Speaker 2: to be the committee would look at, well, who's hot

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Speaker 2: down the stretch, who's playing well down the stretch, But

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Speaker 2: not so much anymore, not so much anymore. This was

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Speaker 2: a twenty four point effort in twenty six minutes for

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Speaker 2: Moustapha Chime, fifteen rebounds in that game for the big Man,

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Speaker 2: twenty six points in twenty nine minutes for day Dave Thomas. Now,

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Speaker 2: as you might expect, Wes Miller, who has taken a

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Speaker 2: lot of water on this season, particularly with his fan base,

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Speaker 2: has to be feeling pretty good, has to like what

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Speaker 2: he's seen from his team. Well, you get Chime back,

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Speaker 2: you get the inside game, which makes the outside game

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Speaker 2: even more lethal. And that's what Middle was addressing after

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Speaker 2: last night's ninety one sixty eight win over Oklahoma State. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we did a nice job.

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Speaker 3: Like you look down and we made twelve threes. I mean,

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Speaker 3: day they make seven. But we've played inside out well.

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Speaker 3: I mean we didn't take many like swing threes. We

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Speaker 3: took a lot of touch the paint kickout threes. And

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Speaker 3: when you do that and you get those kind of looks,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna make quite a few when you have good,

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Speaker 2: So I was pleased with that. Yeah, not only that

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Speaker 2: they took the lead and never lost it wright from

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Speaker 2: opening jump. By the eleven forty mark, they were up

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Speaker 2: double digits on Oklahoma State. Look, Oklahoma State is not

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Speaker 2: a great basketball team.

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Speaker 4: They're not.

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Speaker 2: They just aren't. But you've got to beat the teams

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Speaker 2: that are not so good in your home gym. And

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what you see did and did it definitively.

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Speaker 2: So the new sixteen and thirteen, eight and eight inside

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, as they said, they won six of

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Speaker 2: their five of the last six. You would think that

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Speaker 2: it would still take a really strong run finish out

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Speaker 2: the regular season, then go to the Big Twelve tournament

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Speaker 2: and make a really strong run in the Big Twelve

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Speaker 2: tournament to get consideration. It's just the situation that you

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Speaker 2: see's in. There are dozens of teams in this country

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Speaker 2: that are in the exact same situation as Cincinnati. But

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Speaker 2: you play who's next, you play who's in front of you,

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Speaker 2: and you move on from there. Three games over five

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Speaker 2: hundred dead even inside what I believe to be and

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Speaker 2: toughest basketball conference in the country. We'll see. They're playing

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Speaker 2: better now, they seem more disciplined now, they seem a

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Speaker 2: little less selfish now, We'll see. But it was a

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Speaker 2: nice win for them yesterday. Fifth third. Now, Xavier is

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Speaker 2: a team that is up and down. Richard Patino took

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Speaker 2: over this team last year. You know, he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: the talent on this team that he wants. He's a

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Speaker 2: couple of good players. I wouldn't say there's anybody on

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Speaker 2: He had twenty two last night in a ninety one

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Speaker 2: Occasionally he'll get points off the bench. He got a

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Speaker 2: lot of points off the bench last night, twenty seven

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Speaker 2: off the bench twenty one from one man, and that's

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Speaker 2: Roddy Anderson. Roddy Anderson gave him twenty one and twenty

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Speaker 2: eight minutes last night. Xavier is now fourteen and fifteen,

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Speaker 2: team that could really stand a miraculous run in their

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Speaker 2: conference tournament. But they win. They've bet a Georgetown team again,

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Speaker 2: a good team, not a great team. Ninety one eighty four.

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Speaker 2: And after the game, Richard Patino was talking about, well,

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Speaker 2: a lot of different things, but certainly about Roddy Anderson.

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Speaker 2: What a boost off the bench for his club. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: really really good.

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Speaker 5: Made some big shots in the second half.

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Speaker 3: You know, he gives us that dimension that we don't

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Speaker 3: really have for guys that can kind of get, you know,

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Speaker 6: So he gave us big energy off the bench for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they shot fifty one percent from the field.

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Speaker 2: They were ten to twenty on their three point field

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Speaker 2: goal attempts. Anderson had seven of those ten made three pointers,

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Speaker 2: and you get Carol with twenty two points. Perfect at

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Speaker 2: the free throw line, he was ten for ten and

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Speaker 2: Xavier comes up with a ninety one eighty four win

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Speaker 2: at home at the Sintas Center over Georgetown, sent the

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Speaker 2: fan base home happy at least for one night. The

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Speaker 2: team I have trouble figuring out, maybe you do as

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Speaker 2: well is Kentucky. One night they look like, Hey, this

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Speaker 2: is a team, could be an Elite eight team. Other

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Speaker 2: nights you look at him to say, what the hell

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Speaker 2: happened to that team? I just saw the other night.

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Speaker 2: So they're in Nashville. I don't know what was it

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Speaker 2: a couple three weeks ago and Vandy slapped them from

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Speaker 2: one side of the gym to the other. Yesterday they're

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Speaker 2: at Rupp and they come up with a ninety one

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Speaker 2: seventy seven win over Vandy. Vandy is a good team.

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilt came into that game twenty two and six. Kentucky

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Speaker 2: is now nineteen and ten after the ninety one seventy

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Speaker 2: seven win. A lot of to talk about in this game.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three points apiece for Odiga, Oway Conglor Champer also

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Speaker 2: with twenty three points. Channer was six to three from

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Speaker 2: three point range. Kentucky led by one at the half.

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Speaker 2: Now Kentucky has or has had a tendency to kind

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Speaker 2: of drift in the second half. They didn't played strong

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Speaker 2: in the second half, held the lead throughout the second

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Speaker 2: half by and large, and come up with a ninety

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Speaker 2: and he's talking about that final twenty minutes where he

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Speaker 2: saw exactly what he wanted to see from his team

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Speaker 2: in the sense that that final twenty minutes overrode everything

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Speaker 2: else he saw from his Kentucky team yesterday at Roupp Arena.

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Speaker 2: Here's Pope after the game.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you I was proud of the forty six

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Speaker 6: I was really proud of that.

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Speaker 7: And you know that's with us not you know, playing

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Speaker 7: proud of the guys for staying really aggressive, you know,

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Speaker 7: as Vanderbilt tried to extend the press, and you know,

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Speaker 7: our guys just attacked it. It's what we what we

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Speaker 7: second guessing. Guys were super aggressive against the press, and

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Speaker 7: we ended up with four or five layups, a couple

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Speaker 7: of end ones, just with our guys making great aggressive

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Speaker 7: decisions and That's that's how you want your guys to feel.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is coming down the home stretch. Everybody is coming

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Speaker 2: down the home stretch. They're at Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday night looking for their twentieth win of the season.

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Speaker 2: I started off by talking about Miami. There's two things

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Speaker 2: you got to love about Miami. One, it's for redemption

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Speaker 2: for Travis Steel, who seems like a really genuinely nice

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Speaker 2: guy and a guy that again I say this a lot.

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Speaker 2: Xavier is a good basketball school. Right, we know that

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to be said. He's a good basketball coach.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out. Sometimes when you have good and good,

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Speaker 2: the fit isn't there. And now he's gone to Miami

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Speaker 2: and in the scant short time of what two and

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Speaker 2: a half seasons, he's built himself a mid major powerhouse.

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Speaker 2: Now Miami is not going to get the respect from

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Speaker 2: the committee. They're not going to get respect from the coaches,

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Speaker 2: or the writers or everybody else that votes on these

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Speaker 2: in season polls. They're not. They're not because the conference,

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Speaker 2: although it's one of the most competitive conference in the

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Speaker 2: United States, it just they don't play anybody outside the

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Speaker 2: conference except early in the year. Where you can maybe

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Speaker 2: chalk up a win outside that conference early in the

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Speaker 2: year to the favored team simply not playing well on

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Speaker 2: that night. It's just not there. It's a matter of respect.

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Speaker 2: Understand it, Matt guy here, understand it. Have understood it

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Speaker 2: for years. But you go twenty nine to zero at

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Speaker 2: any conference, twenty nine to oh to start a season,

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Speaker 2: sixteen to oh in any conference, you're playing great basketball.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Miami play this year, you

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Speaker 2: ought to tune them in. They got a game coming

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Speaker 2: up on Tuesday night against Toledo. It's at Molett on

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Speaker 2: Friday night. This game is tied with one second to go,

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Speaker 2: one second to go. Their best player, Peter Souter is

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Speaker 2: out fouled out seven minutes to go with foul trouble.

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Speaker 2: Had sixteen points at the time. Look like, you know,

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Speaker 2: without the fouls, this guy could have been en roots

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Speaker 2: to a thirty point game. Didn't happen. Luke Scaljack was

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Speaker 2: play Trey Perry. Good ball clubs. Great ball clubs have

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Speaker 2: great depth. Ray Perry comes off the bench fourteen points,

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Speaker 2: goes six of eight from the field, and it hits

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Speaker 2: the game winning bucket with one second to go. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was, it was. It was just amazing to watch.

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Speaker 2: This team has an uncanny ability not to lose, not

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Speaker 2: to lose here now they're coach Travis Steele. This is

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Speaker 2: Friday night after the sixty nine sixty seven win at

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Speaker 2: Western Michigan.

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Speaker 8: Just our guys' ability to execute down there crunch time.

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Speaker 8: Olmar Atlason made some big places, Ian Elmer, Antoine Woolfolk

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Speaker 8: had some big defensive places for rebounds and screens.

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Speaker 9: Trey Perry obviously had the game winner at the very end.

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Speaker 8: But just our guys' ability to stay present, be unflappable

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Speaker 2: Now think about that. You got your your your guard

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Speaker 2: is out scale, Jack's out right, and you go to

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Speaker 2: Trey Perry. It was a good player, not a great.

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Speaker 2: Perry said, you're starting ninety seconds, ninety minutes before the game. Now,

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Speaker 2: some kids would be, you know, like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I got to start. I gotta do this, I gotta

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Speaker 2: do that. Unflappable, Absolutely unflappable. And that's part of the

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Speaker 2: reason why I think Steele recruited the kid, and one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons why you have this this bench that

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Speaker 2: he can go to in a tough situation like he

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Speaker 2: was in before that game on Friday night.

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Speaker 9: You know, Trey, Trey has been playing really well in

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Speaker 9: the last couple of games.

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Speaker 8: He's really triggered it in the right direction over the

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Speaker 8: last month, just his execution on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not shocked, listen.

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Speaker 2: We recruited him.

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Speaker 2: Probably took him a lot to get down to thirty.

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Speaker 2: a lot to get down to thirty, right, Brian.

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Speaker 13: Well, somehow Eric Dickerson made it twice.

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Speaker 6: I have to get with my editors on that.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we'll take I just noticed that.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we'll maybe we'll take Dickerson.

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Speaker 13: Off and we'll give Ken or Joe maybe. Well, that'll

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Speaker 13: be the debate that we do Ken, which one is

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Speaker 13: more deserving?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 13: Canaterson er Joe Burrow? Because we know Eric Diggerson does

442
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Speaker 13: not belong on here twice as good as he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question because, as you know, football

444
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Speaker 2: is the ultimate team sport, and so when you look at,

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Speaker 2: for example, a quarterback who never won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: or a star player who never won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: there were ten other players around him that pretty much

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Speaker 2: controlled whether he not he won or did not win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. So that's tough to say. If you're

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Speaker 2: asking Anderson and Burrow, I would ask which team had

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Speaker 2: the better players around him and as great as Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase and t Higgins are, I would have to say

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Speaker 2: Anderson ahead of Burrow. I would have to say that.

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Speaker 13: No, I yeah, I agree with you, and I think

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Speaker 13: I think one of the main things is, and obviously

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Speaker 13: you know, Anderson had a full career, right fifteen seasons.

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Speaker 6: I think he was largely healthy.

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Speaker 13: That entire run, where Joe's had you know what, six years,

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Speaker 13: and at least two of those years he won't missed. No,

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Speaker 13: I think three years he missed significant time. As you

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Speaker 13: factor in twenty twenty five. But I think Anderson, you know,

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Speaker 13: I think the league MVP carries significant weight as good

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Speaker 13: as Joe's Ben, he hasn't won it.

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Speaker 6: I think we can all agree.

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Speaker 13: In twenty four, if the Bengals had a better team,

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Speaker 13: he would have won it. He was cleterally the best

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Speaker 13: quarterback of the league that year. But I think you

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Speaker 13: know with Anderson, and I think you nailed it.

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Speaker 6: Ken. It's not an individual sports, a team sport.

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Speaker 13: And you look at that Super Bowl against the forty

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Speaker 13: nine ers they win that game Ken Anderson, I think

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Speaker 13: we can all agree, and I think kan Anderson himself

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Speaker 13: recently has said he is a Hall of Famer if

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Speaker 13: they win that game. But if you look at his

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Speaker 13: individual performance in that game, three total touchdowns, two touchdown passes,

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Speaker 13: over three hundred pass in the yards, he actually had

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Speaker 13: almost twice as many passing yards as Joe Montana in

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Speaker 13: that game.

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Speaker 6: And Montana wouldn't he didn't fit it. He was not

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Speaker 6: the best quarterback that day.

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Speaker 13: So and I think you know, they had four turnovers

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Speaker 13: which which cost him in that game, and I don't

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Speaker 13: think Anderson and think he was responsible for one of them.

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Speaker 13: So but yeah, I would at this point put Ken in.

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Speaker 13: But Joe's obviously a great player, and then he's certainly

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Speaker 13: on a probably a longer list of best players that

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Speaker 13: haven't won it.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of interesting names on your list. Chris

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Speaker 2: Carter makes the list. He of course from just up

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Speaker 2: the road in Middletown. Young Blood Jack Youngblood was a

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Speaker 2: great player. The name on this list that just oud

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Speaker 2: at me is Bruce Smith, who obviously had multiple chances

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Speaker 2: with the Buffalo Bills. And of course we all know

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Speaker 2: exactly what nuke the Bills and their Super Bowl chances,

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Speaker 2: particularly as you point out that Scott nor would miss

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Speaker 2: that would have beaten the Giants in Super Bowl whatever

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Speaker 2: it was. But my point being is there's a great

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Speaker 2: player that rose above the rest, even though he did

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Speaker 2: not play on a Super Bowl winning team. But it's

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Speaker 2: still a shock to see his name and see next

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: He had four shots with Buffalo and couldn't get him

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Speaker 2: home in any of those four games. It's kind of amazing.

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Speaker 2: But Bruce Smith, to me, if you talk about Champ

506
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Speaker 2: Bailey being the defenditive player at his position in his era,

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Speaker 2: I think Bruce Smith was the definitive defensive end in

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Speaker 2: his era.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who else would be on that list as

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Speaker 2: his equal?

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Speaker 13: It's Hitman Reggie White, right, I mean it's those two guys.

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Speaker 13: In Smith actually hunk one and actually and topped Regie

514
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Speaker 13: White his all time sack record. And even even though

515
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Speaker 13: Reggie came back with the Carolina Panthers for like one

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Speaker 13: year to try to keep it, Bruce, Bruce hung on

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Speaker 13: and ended up playing for Washington, which was one of

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Speaker 13: the four teams that beat him.

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Speaker 6: But no, I think the difference between the two was I.

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Speaker 13: Think Reggie had had gotten his life and would not

521
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Speaker 13: really cream quarterbacks the way that he probably could Bruce Smith.

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Speaker 6: He might believe in God.

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Speaker 4: That didn't.

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Speaker 6: That didn't.

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Speaker 13: That wasn't applicable to how he treated quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: He was scary.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 13: Look at that hit that he had on Montana in

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Speaker 13: the ninety three AFC title game that knocked him out.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's there's a picture of Bruce kind of

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Speaker 13: looking over it at Montana just holding his head, and

532
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Speaker 13: it's an iconic picture, but it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: The Super Bowl twenty.

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Speaker 13: Five I actually ranked every sixty Super Bowls recently and

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Speaker 13: that was number one.

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Speaker 6: The Scott Norwood miss number one for me.

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Speaker 13: You mentioned how how the margins and how close these

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Speaker 13: players are changing legacies and games. That's sat that he

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Speaker 13: had in the in the first pass against Jeff Passtetler

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Speaker 13: for a safety gave Buffalo a twelve to three leads, but.

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Speaker 6: It should have been more. It should have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 13: Smith actually slapped Hoksteler's wrist and hawks Deeler.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how, but he hung onto the.

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Speaker 13: Ball and by him holding onto the ball, went from

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Speaker 13: a two point play to or a seven point play

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Speaker 13: to a two point play Buffalo. If Smith's able to

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Speaker 13: get that ball out and one of his teammates for himself,

548
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Speaker 13: pounces on it, now you're talking what seventeen to three.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I don't think.

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Speaker 13: The Giants can come back from that, not with that

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Speaker 13: quarterback in the backup running back.

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Speaker 6: But again, it just shows you one play.

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Speaker 13: Could have changed the entire treit and he's not on

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Speaker 13: this list right if that one thing happened.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Munios is on the list, obviously the greatest defensive

556
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Speaker 2: lineman to ever play in Cincinnati, and I think you

557
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Speaker 2: could make a strong argument the best left tackle in

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Speaker 2: the history of the business. But he comes in at

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Speaker 2: number five, and deservedly so. Two shots at the Super

560
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Speaker 2: Bowl Trophy and both short against the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. Number one on the list is Dan Marino,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's well documented he never quarterbacked a

563
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Speaker 2: Dolphins team to a Super Bowl win. Got to the

564
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? What his rookie season, his second season, I

565
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Speaker 2: think his second season he got to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I can see that, and everybody thought, well, there's a

567
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Speaker 2: dynasty there's a team that it's just a matter of

568
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Speaker 2: time and it never it never works out. But again

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Speaker 2: I go back to my argument, Brian, it's it's a

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Speaker 2: team game, and so yes, you're going to hang it

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Speaker 2: on the quarterback and for example, Ken Anderson had that

572
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Speaker 2: hung around his neck still does for not making the

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. But it's a team game.

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Speaker 2: But I think everybody that was on the face of

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Speaker 2: the earth when Marino burst onto the scene figured this

576
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Speaker 2: is a guy that's going to go back to that

577
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Speaker 2: game and win it several times. Boy, it just shows

578
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Speaker 2: you just the fickleness of the game and just how

579
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Speaker 2: so many other factors can weigh in conditions at game time,

580
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Speaker 2: performance of other players, injuries of other players around your team.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think they call it the ultimate team sport, Brian,

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Speaker 2: what about you not?

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Speaker 13: I entirely agree, And I think that the seventies Steelers

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Speaker 13: and the ninety or eighties, forty nine Ers and nineties

585
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Speaker 13: Cowboys and even and if you go to a different

586
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Speaker 13: sports you go to Tiger Woods and golf, right, I

587
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Speaker 13: think it gives the casual fan this unrealistic thought of, oh,

588
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Speaker 13: it's easy to win championships.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 13: But but conversely, if those guys are winning all of them,

591
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Speaker 13: then nobody else.

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Speaker 6: Can win them.

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Speaker 5: Right.

594
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Speaker 13: If Tiger Woods winning fifteen majors, well, then Jil Michelson

595
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Speaker 13: only going to win six, right or less than obviously

596
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Speaker 13: Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 6: So the thing with Marino that's kind of insane is

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Speaker 6: after that Super.

599
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Speaker 13: Bowl, I believe he only made it back to an

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Speaker 13: AFC title game twice and the rest of his career,

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Speaker 13: and he played for fourteen to fifteen more years, and

602
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Speaker 13: one of them was the very next year. And I

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Speaker 13: always wonder had you mentioned conditions. You're so right, because

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Speaker 13: that next Stafety Championship game they played the Patriots, who

605
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Speaker 13: were I think maybe the worst team that ever.

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Speaker 6: No, they are, They're the worst team that ever ever

607
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Speaker 6: played at Super Bowl. They are. They're the worst, and

608
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Speaker 6: it shows in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 13: But the field conditions were awful and they had a

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Speaker 13: good running back, Greig James, who's I think part of

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Speaker 13: that that Eric Dickerson, Tony Express or access.

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Speaker 6: Or however you want to characterize it.

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Speaker 13: And the Dolphins couldn't get their offense off out of

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Speaker 13: the mud into that Coston. But again, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 13: Marino never had the complimentary running game, and him and

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Speaker 13: John Elway could have easily been in this list, if

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Speaker 13: not the last couple of years of his career. But

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Speaker 13: he had the running game with Cherl Davison. You see

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Speaker 13: it now with Aaron Rodgers, all these old quarterbacks. You

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Speaker 13: need a team that you could jump on their back,

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Speaker 13: not the other way around. And Marino, even late in

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Speaker 13: his career, was still carrying teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Absolutely. Brian Diardo cbssports dot com,

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Speaker 2: the author of this article on thirty players who were great,

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Speaker 2: absolutely great thirty players, maybe the thirty greatest players never

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Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl. One quick question on the

627
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Speaker 2: Bengals at the combine this week. There was given take

628
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Speaker 2: between Duke Tobin and the local media here, and Tobin

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Speaker 2: made it all all thoughts of Max Crosby arriving in

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati pointless that it doesn't sound like they're playing that

631
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Speaker 2: game and holding on to that number ten overall pick.

632
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Speaker 2: And it also sounded like that they were going to

633
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Speaker 2: pursue free agents about the way they pursued free agents

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Speaker 2: in years past, and that is middling free agents, people

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Speaker 2: that aren't exactly first day signings. I'm just wondering the

636
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Speaker 2: road back from a bad defense? Is that the best way,

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Speaker 2: in your opinion, to start it?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't really.

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Speaker 13: Understand it, but I think we've discussed this in the past.

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Speaker 13: You know, you sometimes wonder that Super Bowl appearance could

641
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Speaker 13: have been a blessing or at the time it was

642
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Speaker 13: a blessing for Bengals fans, but could that be a

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Speaker 13: curse because it seems like now and you hear Duke

644
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Speaker 13: Tobin every time he talks, he says very similar things

645
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Speaker 13: where I've been doing this for a long time and

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Speaker 13: I had this experience, AKA, don't question.

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Speaker 6: How we do things right. And here's my thing about it.

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Speaker 13: It's it's I have no problem with signing some second

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Speaker 13: tier guys, but you've got to get the right ones.

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Speaker 13: And that's much much harder. It's much easier said than done,

651
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Speaker 13: rather right. And even now, like I'm kind of surveying

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Speaker 13: some of the potential free agent guys.

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Speaker 6: Anytime you get those second level guys.

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Speaker 13: There's there's her sure question marks, like like I like

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Speaker 13: the Mario Davis for the Saints, for example, He's an

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Speaker 13: awesome inside linebacker for them.

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Speaker 6: I think he'd like to stay with the Saints. But

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Speaker 6: we know the Bengals need help.

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Speaker 13: But basically every position on defense, linebacker is one of them.

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Speaker 6: But the Mario Davis is.

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Speaker 13: Like thirty seven, thirty six, thirty seven, and that right

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Speaker 13: there is an example of what you're gonna get with

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Speaker 13: those seconds tier guys like I know they've done well

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Speaker 13: with like von Bell in the past, you know, but

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Speaker 13: then that hasn't lasted long term.

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Speaker 6: I mean one example of when it has.

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Speaker 13: Worked out was Mike Hilton, right, they got him from

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Speaker 13: Pittsburgh and he was a spark plug for them, especially

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Speaker 13: his first two years in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: So the other question, too, Ken, is money.

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Speaker 13: Right When you're paying three guys so much money as

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Speaker 13: they are with Higgins and Chase and.

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Speaker 6: Burrow, this is kind of what you have to do

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Speaker 6: unless you're.

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Speaker 13: A lot better at fanangling and adjusting your salary cap.

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Speaker 13: I think that they do with just Burrows contract, which

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Speaker 13: might free up some money. But in my opinion, though,

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Speaker 13: they need to do what they did with Hendrickson four

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Speaker 13: years ago. They swung and got him at a great

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Speaker 13: deal for both sides. They need to try to figure out.

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Speaker 4: A way to do that.

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Speaker 13: They can't sit out the entire top end free agency market.

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Speaker 13: They've got to at least try to get somebody that

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Speaker 13: can make an instant impact for them in twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I agree, or you're going to be having the same

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Speaker 2: conversation with me a year from now. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: just it's but you know what, the next team I

688
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Speaker 2: run in the NFL will be my first. All I

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Speaker 2: do is talk about it. Brian Brian Diarnold cbssports dot com.

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Speaker 2: You stay well, my friend will be in touch.

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Speaker 6: Sounds great, can you too?

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Speaker 2: You look at some of the names on this list.

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Speaker 2: Fran Tarkenton, terrific quarterback, mostly with Minnesota, had some playing

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Speaker 2: time with the Giants, but mostly with Minnesota. Larry Fitzgerald

695
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, never won a Super Bowl. Tony Gonzalez

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Speaker 2: junior sayout never won a Super Bowl, and of course

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Speaker 2: he mentioned out in page as well, and then right

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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati of course, Anthony Munios, great player, never

699
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Speaker 2: won a super Bowl. But at the top of the list,

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Speaker 2: Dan Marino. Remember Dan marino Is second season unbelievable. He

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Speaker 2: took them to the Super Bowl, the Dolphins in his

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Speaker 2: second year. It was an MVP year from Marino through

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Speaker 2: for five thousand yards forty eight touchdowns, never won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and it just shows you just how delicate

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Speaker 2: an NFL season is and why things have to fall

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Speaker 2: into place perfectly for a team to be standing there

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Speaker 2: with a trophy at the end of the year, and

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Speaker 2: like every other sport, every other team goes home not satisfied.

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Speaker 2: We're coming up on nine to fifty four. Rob Mainz

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Speaker 2: is standing by the Reds playing later today against the Athletics,

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Speaker 2: and you'll hear it here on seven hundred at WYLW.

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Speaker 2: But of the Reds not getting the kind of respect

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Speaker 2: they deserve now that they've signed au Haineo Suarez, everybody

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Speaker 2: was saying they need some power in the middle of

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Speaker 2: that batting order. Well there it is. Still have low expectations. Really,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into all of that on this edition of

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Speaker 2: Sunday Morning Sports Talk nine fifty four News Radio seven

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Speaker 2: Ten oweight, Welcome back. Follow the hour. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk to Rick Wakeman, formerly of Yes Rock and Roll

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, coming to town here in a couple

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Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that also. Two weeks to

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Speaker 2: go be for selection Sunday. That's still to come with

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Speaker 2: our mister basketball experts, Steve Wolf and the top ten

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Speaker 2: returning quarterbacks in college football for a year twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: You think the basketball season blue by, Hopefully it'll be

755
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Speaker 2: the same as we move into football season, but we

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Speaker 2: shall see baseball still on the horizon. We have the

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Speaker 2: reds and a's here later this afternoon on seven hundred

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Speaker 2: a WLW. A lot of rankings, a lot of predictions,

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Speaker 2: a lot of jaw flapping to see what or who

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00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: or how things will work out in any given season.

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Speaker 2: It's already underway Baseball Perspectives, which is probably of all

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Speaker 2: the websites, the Bible, the base of all that is

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Speaker 2: baseball in terms of projections. Fangraphs is right there with it.

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Speaker 2: Fan Graphs is terrific, is in a lot of ways

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Speaker 2: more analytical than Baseball Perspectives. But Baseball Perspectives has come

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Speaker 2: up with and a formula, and they've had it for

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Speaker 2: many years called Pakota. The Pakoda ratings it's short for.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into what it's short for,

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Speaker 2: because it's a lot of baseball technical ease, But by

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Speaker 2: and large, they rank players, and in ranking players, they

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Speaker 2: rank teams. So once individual players and forecasts for their

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Speaker 2: season are set, then they get into a baseball perspectus

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Speaker 2: of ranking how a team will or will not perform,

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Speaker 2: And there are things like run projections and expected run projections,

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Speaker 2: and then they run simulations of an entire season and

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Speaker 2: come up with what they think a team will do

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Speaker 2: in a given year. Now, if you look at baseball

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Speaker 2: perspectus and where it is right now, and it is fluid,

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Speaker 2: it changes almost on a daily basis, Toronto and the

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Speaker 2: Yankees neck and neck on top of the AL East

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Speaker 2: at this point. I mean, if you just look at

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Speaker 2: that one division, neck and neck for who wins the

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Speaker 2: AL East? Projected wins for Toronto eighty eight point six

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Speaker 2: projected runs for the Yankees eighty seven point eight in

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Speaker 2: our division close to the home National League Central Chicago

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Speaker 2: ninety point four wins this year is what Pakoda says.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee eighty one point zero wins, Pittsburgh eighty point one wins,

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Speaker 2: and the Reds at seventy eight point three. The Cardinals

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Speaker 2: are a mess. We know that they're projected for sixty

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Speaker 2: six wins this season. So the Reds are at seventy

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Speaker 2: eight point three on their projected win list, and that's

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Speaker 2: about where it was when these rankings started earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, the Reds

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Speaker 2: added after the original rankings came out, au Hainio Suarez.

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Speaker 2: This is this not the guy that in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five drove in I'm doing the math on the run here,

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Speaker 2: drove in one hundred and eighteen runs, forty nine nine

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Speaker 2: home runs with two different teams, Arizona and Seattle, kidding me,

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Speaker 2: and that was not an anomaly. He had thirty home

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Speaker 2: runs in twenty twenty four, he had thirty one and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and he drove in ninety six runs

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. So really still hovering around that

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Speaker 2: seventy eight win total this year, even after the addition

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Speaker 2: of au Haaneo Suarez. Now, give Rob Mains credit. He's

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Speaker 2: one of their top writers at Baseball Perspectives, and he's

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Speaker 2: coming on today to talk to me, and maybe in

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Speaker 2: a sense to men. Why it's only seventy eight. Let's

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Speaker 2: bring him on in. Let's put the hot light on him.

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Speaker 2: Rob Mains, how are you on this glorious Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I'm great, kid.

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're here now. Look, Sparez is a lot

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Speaker 2: of things. He's a power hitter, he's a flyball hitter.

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Speaker 2: You need a sacrifice flyball, that's your guy. He can

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Speaker 2: still dh I'm not sure that I would put him

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Speaker 2: at third base at this point. I might be grudgingly

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Speaker 2: play him at first base at this point. Reds have

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Speaker 2: I think, better defensive options. But he is a guy

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Speaker 2: in the middle of that order that will provide some

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Speaker 2: protection for Dayla Cruz and deliver a flyball, if not

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Speaker 2: a better hit when you need him. So are you

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Speaker 2: now thinking more than seventy eight wins for the Reds

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Speaker 2: this season?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 4: I can answer that two ways.

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Speaker 5: The algorithm that produces our projections does include us playing

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Speaker 5: time for Suarez, and it's still well today is saying

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Speaker 5: seventy eight and a half when hearts round up to

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Speaker 5: seventy nine. Personally, I'm a little more optimistic than that,

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Speaker 5: and I agree with you I think Suarez is a

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Speaker 5: good pickup for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: You know he was.

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Speaker 5: He had a fabulous start to the year in Arizona.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't as good in Seattle. He moves from a

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Speaker 5: decent ballpark or you know, the toughest ballpark for hitters,

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Speaker 5: and now he's back in a decent ballpark where he's

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Speaker 5: had success in the past. So yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: Flyball hitter at the Great American Ballpark is kind of

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Speaker 5: what you need, especially in a lineup like this one

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Speaker 5: that's been starved for power.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk okay about that star for power. This this

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00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: team has not hit for average, save for one or

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Speaker 2: two players in the course of the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: So bringing in a bat that probably at best is

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Speaker 2: going to hit two thirty to thirty five, but maybe

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Speaker 2: able to give you north of forty home runs, to me,

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Speaker 2: that was a wise investment. You make a run Schwarberg,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to you didn't get him forty home runs.

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Speaker 2: I think in terms of war is going to make

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Speaker 2: up a lot of ground for this team from war

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Speaker 2: was last year. I guess where I'm struggling a little

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00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: bit here is is the division that good or is

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00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: it that much better around them? I see the Cubs,

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00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: I get what they're doing, But the rest of the

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Speaker 2: division is it that much better in your opinion?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, That's where I think I may part a little

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Speaker 5: bit with what Pakoda.

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Speaker 4: Is saying, and that I'll get a little under the hood.

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Speaker 5: With these complex prediction systems, you know, you look at

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Speaker 5: all the various components of a team's performance, and one

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Speaker 5: thing that the prediction systems are skeptical about is singles.

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00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 5: That if you hit a lot, because a lot of

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Speaker 5: singles are a matter of where the infielders are playing,

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Speaker 5: and if they're playing the right position, that's the six

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Speaker 5: to three instead of a single to left. And so

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Speaker 5: you look at a team that hits a lot of singles,

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Speaker 5: the prediction systems aren't that keen on them.

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Speaker 4: That's the Brewers.

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Speaker 5: They led the league in singles last year. The Reds,

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Speaker 5: by contrast, allowed the fewest singles in the league last year.

871
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: And I think what the prediction systems are saying is, well,

872
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: maybe some of that pitching performance was a mirage and

873
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: they're going to backslide a little bit there. I don't

874
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 5: know if I agree with that. So this simple leef

875
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 5: you look at a team like the Phillies or the

876
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: Yankees that kind of, you know, didn't make a lot

877
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: of changes, and he can say, Okay, he had a

878
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: good team, but everybody's a year older, and that's can

879
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: work against the Reds. Didn't do a lot to change

880
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: the team, but a lot of the guys who are

881
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: in years a year older now with the red that

882
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: should work in their favor. It's a lot different from

883
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: going from twenty six to twenty seven years old than

884
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: from thirty three to thirty four. So I think that

885
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: the core of players that the Reds have in place

886
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 5: can do a little bit better this year. And even

887
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: if some of the backsliding the rediction systems talk about occurs,

888
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 5: I think this could still be, you know, not a

889
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 5: team that's can contend with the Cups, but one that

890
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 5: can probably play with the other the division. And I'm

891
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: a little shocked that don cridiction systems have them below

892
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 5: the pirates, who seem to always find a way to

893
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: trade away the good players.

894
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's let's talk about that, because if

895
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: you look at Pakoda in baseball perspectives, we'll round it up.

896
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 2: We'll say seventy nine wins for the Reds at this point.

897
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned it's a fluid kind of thing, and okay,

898
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: that's literally one win behind Pittsburgh and maybe one and

899
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: a half two wins behind Milwaukee. I mean, if you

900
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: look at you mentioned the core players that the Reds have,

901
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: look at the core players that the Brewers and Pirates have.

902
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: Are their core players that much better than what the

903
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Reds have?

904
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: I would say the Brewers, if you look at their

905
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five performance, yeah, that was a really good team.

906
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 5: They got a lot of rookies who kind of came

907
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: out of nowhere to be outstanding players, and I don't

908
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: know if they're getting able to do that again.

909
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: The Pirates. I'm just maybe I'm a low.

910
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: Man on the Pirates. I don't think that they've done

911
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: a whole lot to improve the team. And the Reds

912
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: got Suarez to be a d H and Swarz I

913
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 5: think is still a useful player. The Pirates got marcel

914
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 5: A Zuna, who looked like coast the last couple months

915
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 5: of the year, And I say with that club, there's

916
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: always a risk that they're going to figure out that

917
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: business isn't their year and siguling a trade away, maybe

918
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 5: not a pause teams, but maybe a Brian Reynolds to

919
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 5: get another raft of prospects to kick the can of

920
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 5: being a contender down the road. But I would take

921
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: right now, I would take the red stale and over

922
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 5: the Pirates.

923
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, well, you know I'm just looking again at

924
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: at at these at these ratings. The NL Central that

925
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: did well last year with getting teams to qualify for

926
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: the postseason. If I look at these right now, I

927
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 2: mean there's it's a one team division and that would

928
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: be Chicago. I mean you, if you just if this

929
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: thing projects as the way you think it is, you're

930
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: going to have from the West the Giants and the Padres,

931
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: and from the East you're going to have the Mets

932
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: and the Phillies. So are you looking at the NL

933
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Central right now understanding what time of the year it

934
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: is and understanding that these these these numbers are are fluid.

935
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 2: Are you looking at the NL Central as a one

936
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: team division for the playoffs?

937
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 5: I'm not. I think the mL East has three really

938
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: good teams. Uh. If Atlantic can keep their pictures on,

939
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: you know, on the field, West looks like a one

940
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 5: trick pony. To me, uh, and then we have two

941
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: other contenders or two other playoff teams to be john,

942
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 5: and I think the Cups are likely one of them.

943
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: But whether it's Milwaukee, Cincinnati, or I'll be grudgingly disconsessed

944
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 5: the predictions Pittsburgh. I think that there'll be two seats

945
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: coming out of the Central.

946
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay a name that I'm intrigued with, and I don't

947
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: know why, And it might be a completely moot question

948
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks as spring training plays out,

949
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: But the Reds signed Nathaniel Lowe, and low two years

950
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: ago was terrific good in the field obviously, and hit

951
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: the ball well not so much last year. He looks

952
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: like it's he's one of those flyers that teams like

953
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: the Reds take to see if he can somehow recapture

954
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: the rapture. I don't know where's that bats come from.

955
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: His performance will dictate that, But the fact of the

956
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: matter is this is a guy that, not so long

957
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: ago was one of the premier players in the league.

958
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: Am I too excited about Nathaniel Lowe?

959
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 5: Well, I think that adding a left handed bat is

960
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: a positive thing as well. I concerned with him and

961
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 5: used to just where's he going to get these bats?

962
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 5: Because you don't want him taking it bats away from Suarez.

963
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: A D eight.

964
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: I don't know how comfortable I'd be. Well, I certainly

965
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 5: don't want him taking away at bats from South Stewart,

966
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 5: who looks like, you know, the Reds the best prospect

967
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: coming into the season.

968
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 4: And I don't know how comfortable I'd.

969
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: Be moving Steward to another point place in the diamond.

970
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: I mean, he's got minor league experienced a second, but

971
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: then what do you do with the plane? So I

972
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 5: think that lowers a bench bats certainly makes sense, and yeah,

973
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: you can see him if he squints in the starting role.

974
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 5: My difficult with that, with being an NRI is where's

975
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: it going to play the Reds town. You know, they

976
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: do have depth at those at the corner endfield and

977
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: d H position. So that's that's.

978
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: Do the Reds have the best pitching starting pitching in

979
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: the National Lakes Central Division?

980
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: I think they do.

981
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Not only do they have a dynamite top.

982
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 5: Four, but there's depth that I think other teams don't have.

983
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at some clubs and you say, yeah,

984
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: the pitch is pretty good, but if somebody gets hurt,

985
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: you're you're at a loss as to who's going to

986
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: fill in. And the Reds not only have a good

987
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: top four, but they've got you know, they've got young guys,

988
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 5: the miners, they've got guys coming back from Tommy John,

989
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 5: and I think that they can plug in credible replacements

990
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 5: even if the injuries that inevitably are going to occur,

991
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 5: uh sideline guys for a while. If we lose a

992
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: Hunter Green or nick a Dolo for long period, that's

993
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 5: a different story. But I think where we're sitting right now,

994
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: I really like the Reds location. That's obviously.

995
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: Right, okay, And again just trying to make sense of CODA.

996
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Because of that, the question remains, or the questions about

997
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: them remain, is what does there every Day nine do

998
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: and how weak is the bottom half as for example

999
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: that every Day nine might be because the bottom half

1000
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: is going to include unless things change and unless they

1001
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: have wicked springs, it's going to include keep Brian Hayes,

1002
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: and it's going to include Matt McLean. So I guess

1003
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: that's where the that's where the questions come from, right,

1004
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: It's not from pitching, it's from the everyday nine. And

1005
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: even with the addition of Suarez, and I'm not trying

1006
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: to put words in your mouth, I'm just trying to

1007
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: understand here, even with the addition of Suarez, there are

1008
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: still a lot of question marks about this ball club.

1009
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think that where I'm a little.

1010
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: More optimistic about the red and the CODA is has

1011
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 5: to do actually with the pitching staff, because I said

1012
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: the CODA is not sold on pitchers who suppressed singles,

1013
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: and I think that's the reason why the Reds pitchers

1014
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: of suppressed singles is luck because they're really good and

1015
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 5: particularly having Hayes it's their base for a full season,

1016
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 5: it's going to help with the defense. But you're absolutely right.

1017
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 5: You can hope that we get more from the Claim

1018
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 5: this year than last year. Maybe if we can say

1019
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 5: that twenty five was a washout because he missed all

1020
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: of twenty four with the injury, and maybe he can

1021
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: get back to the player he wasn't twenty three. If

1022
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 5: he can't, I think time may be running out for him.

1023
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: And Hayes is going to be a good field, no

1024
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 5: hit guy no matter what. And there's still questions in

1025
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 5: the outfield as well. So yeah, the bottom part of

1026
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: the lineup is going to be a challenge, and if

1027
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 5: fact can show improvement from where it was last year,

1028
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: that's probably what's going to drive the Reds higher than

1029
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 5: what the protection system happened.

1030
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: Great catching up with your Rob, Rob Bains Baseball Perspectives Dot.

1031
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: He is there, and he's there quite a bit, and

1032
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: he knows of what he speaks, which is why we

1033
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: like having Rob on the show. Rob, you stay well

1034
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Speaker 2: and we'll be in touch.

1035
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: Thanks you too, can't always pause here.

1036
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Speaker 2: returning college football quarterbacks, Max Chadwick Pro Footballfocus dot com.

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Speaker 2: He's got his list. He'll tell you exactly who's on it,

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Speaker 2: and one of the names may surprise you. That is,

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Speaker 2: at eleven thirty six, we are two weeks away from

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Speaker 2: selection Sunday, two weeks from today at six o'clock, will

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Speaker 2: know seeding and will know who is playing where. Now,

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: there are a lot of different predictions out there. Everybody's

1090
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 2: got a bracket. Joe Lenardi's got a bracket. Jerry Palm

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00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: late of CBS Sports. Everybody's got a bracket right now,

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00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: Lenardi is it's it's it's interesting. Leonardi has the has

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: the usual suspects with one seeds. You've got Duke as

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: a one, Michigan has a one. He's got Connecticut as

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00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: a one, and he's got Arizona as a one. And

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: of course there are some variables as to play in games,

1097
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: who does what in a conference tournament and things like that,

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00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: but by and large it could be very lean around

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: the Tri State. It's kind of it's to me, it's

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: kind of interesting because Leonardi right now has you see

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00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: as one of the next four out, you have the

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00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: last four buys. You have the last four in the

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: ones that just skate in at the moment. You've got

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00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: the first four out after that teams that are ranked

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00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: sixty nine through seventy two, and then the next four

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: out teams that are seventy three to seventy six, and

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00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: he as you see at seventy six right now, this

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: all came out before you see beat Oklahoma State yesterday.

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: So it makes you wonder, you know, if Wes Miller,

1110
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: who's got it going on now? They've gone five of

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: their last six if they can keep this thing going.

1112
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: You wonder if Wes Miller, somehow, some way gets his

1113
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: team into the field of sixty eight. We'll see. The

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00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: next ten days will bear all of that out. Somebody

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00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: watching as keenly as anybody, certainly as keenly as me,

1116
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: and maybe more, is our beloved mister Basketball. He is

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00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: a former Xavier star and has called dozens upon dozens,

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: probably at least by my guests. Steve Wolfe is called,

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: at least in his time on television, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty college basketball games. We'll see if my math is correct.

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: But he's standing by to join us right now. Steve,

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00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious Sunday.

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Speaker 20: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: How's my number? Have you done two hundred and fifty

1126
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: games in your career or do you think maybe that

1127
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 2: number is a little low.

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Speaker 20: It's probably a little low at sixty six years old.

1129
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 20: I did it for thirty years, you know, somewhere around third.

1130
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 20: I mean, you could figure the numbers out. I don't

1131
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 20: know some radio games in there, but yeah, I'm just

1132
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 20: glad to be on the radio with you.

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Speaker 2: But I had no idea you were sixty six. I

1134
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: thought I had you pegged for your mid forties, but

1135
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: then I looked when you played, and that would not

1136
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: have worked out because you would have been an embryo

1137
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: playing for per Xavier back all those years ago.

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 20: But I got married to late. Let's just put it

1139
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 20: that way. I'm matured late life. I'm still maturing. I

1140
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 20: think hopefully.

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00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: The last time you and I had a visit, you

1142
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: were pulling back from doing some college games. Have you

1143
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: pulled the reins entirely back?

1144
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 20: Yeah? I did a couple of games your CBS this year,

1145
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 20: and I did some PREESPN, but I'm done. I'm watching

1146
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 20: my My youngest baby daughter played beach volleyball down in Florida,

1147
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 20: and I got three other kids and marriages and a wife,

1148
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 20: so I decided, I'm I'm just gonna take my time

1149
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 20: and relax. So it's been fun. Uh And and I've

1150
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 20: been able to watch some games. You know, I was

1151
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 20: down the Florida right after you guys texted me, and

1152
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 20: I watched the Miami game, and I watched the Aviers

1153
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 20: game yesterday, and you know, I watched UC yesterday.

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00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: So uh, I have a.

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Speaker 20: Pretty good grip of what's going on. But nobody really

1156
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 20: cares now because I'm not announcing. So I'm glad that

1157
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 20: you're you're in the in the interest of that always care.

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: Let's Miami, I think is a really interesting story. And

1159
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: let's let's just say for this conversation's sake, that they

1160
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Speaker 2: beat Toledo on Tuesday night, and they beat Ohio on Friday,

1161
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: and they run the table in the regular season, and

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: then they get into the tournament and maybe they stumble

1163
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: in their in their first game or their second game

1164
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: and are knocked out of the tournament and another MAC

1165
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: team winds up winning. What does what in your opinion,

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01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: would the committee do, because they would then have that

1167
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: one loss, they would not have the conference championship. They're

1168
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: at a conference schedule is or was, you know, really

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: really weak. The only team of note that they beat

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Speaker 2: at a conference was Wright State, and Right State right

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Speaker 2: now is number one on the horizon. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: what is what? What do you think the committee will do,

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: not what they should do, but will do if my

1174
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: scenario plays out?

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Speaker 20: Well, you know, I'd like to think of what they

1176
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 20: should do. But I listened to Bruce Karl talking yesterday

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Speaker 20: and he's saying they're not going to get in. And

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Speaker 20: you know what, if Indiana State wouldn't have won their

1179
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 20: conference tournament, you know, would they have been the you

1180
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 20: know with Larry Bird. I mean, you play who you play,

1181
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 20: that's your schedule.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know.

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01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 20: I like this team because they have seven they're doing

1184
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 20: it the way I think in this stupid bull crap

1185
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 20: nil transfer portal area, they're doing it the right way.

1186
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 20: I think, you know, they're keeping people, they're you know,

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Speaker 20: Travis Steele has obviously learned from what he you know,

1188
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 20: his mistakes, and Xavier and is doing a great job,

1189
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 20: I mean off the Sharks job. And I think he

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 20: made a comment the other day that this team is

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01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 20: probably better not being coached by US as coaches.

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Speaker 4: That's they're a.

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Speaker 20: Really good character team. Seven guys in double figures, you know,

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 20: and they just aren't flustered. I think that they should.

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 20: They will get in. I think they'll get in. I

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 20: think they're gonna win the tournament because they're really unflappable.

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Speaker 20: They were down, you know, by nine points with six

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Speaker 20: minutes to go and had a sixteen to six round

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Speaker 20: to win the game. And it wasn't their leading scorers.

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Speaker 20: It took the last shot. It was like their seventh

1201
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 20: or eight leading scorer Perry that not hit that shot

1202
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Speaker 20: in the lane.

1203
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Speaker 4: They moved the ball well.

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Speaker 20: You know, they average and probably sixteen or sixteen assists

1205
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 20: per game. They do the ordinary thing extraordinarily well. And

1206
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Speaker 20: it's not one of those things where at the end

1207
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 20: of the game you're going to call time out. You

1208
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 20: don't have to do that, And I like that. Now,

1209
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 20: are they big enough? Are they strong enough? They didn't

1210
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 20: shoot the ball from three? The reason why they struggled

1211
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 20: says they're a great three point shooting team, and they

1212
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 20: shot under thirty percent against Western Michigan. When they shoot

1213
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 20: the ball, you got to come out on them. That

1214
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 20: opens up the inside. And even though they're not huge,

1215
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 20: they're able to score in the paint. They beat you

1216
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 20: so many different ways, and they have so many guys

1217
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 20: that can beat you. But I think they'll get in.

1218
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 20: I disagree with Bruce Parol on that, but you know

1219
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 20: the match is Akron is going to be tough. Step

1220
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 20: his brother, stepbrother, John Gross coaches Akron, Travis Fiel's stepbrother.

1221
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 20: So I mean, you know, our half brothers say they're

1222
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 20: really good. Nobody talks about them because Miami has been

1223
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 20: really the team that's ruling the MAC. But it's gonna

1224
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 20: be a gauntlet to try to get through there and

1225
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 20: win that conference turner. But I'd like to think that

1226
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 20: a story like this, you know, no DEI getting in

1227
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 20: because of you know, hey, listen, we have to not

1228
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 20: because they've earned it. I mean, to win thirty games

1229
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 20: at any league and any division is hard.

1230
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: I agree your league is hard. It's hard.

1231
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: That Acri game was at Malette, Akron played them within three.

1232
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: I think they've had like four games that have gone

1233
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: to overtime and then at least five by my account,

1234
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: it might be more than that that were final possession games.

1235
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: And they are unflappable. Yeah, I heard what Steele said.

1236
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: He said, this is this is a players led team

1237
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to a coaches led team. And you're right,

1238
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: from Peter Souter right through that lineup. They lost if

1239
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: Sarah early in the year, and Scaljack steps in and

1240
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: they don't seem to miss Beals.

1241
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 20: Didn't played against Winstern Michigan. He was he was hurt,

1242
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 20: you know, so they play together. They this is the

1243
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 20: problem that you see when you see you see now

1244
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 20: starting to come around people. Oh I can't believe these

1245
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 20: girls talent, you know, West Millar see terrib blah blah blah.

1246
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 20: You know what, people don't know much about basketball. They

1247
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 20: don't know you have to have an identity on the court.

1248
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 20: You have to have team chemistry. And when you have

1249
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 20: new guys coming in, it's hard. And especially because he's

1250
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 20: got used to coaching guys that haven't busted talent. They

1251
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 20: have so much money over there and their nil they're

1252
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 20: able to get these great players. And just because of

1253
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 20: the great players doesn't mean they'll.

1254
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: Play great together.

1255
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 20: I think Richard Patino's been able to do that with

1256
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 20: average players.

1257
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: You know, uh, you know it's.

1258
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 20: Different, no, no, but but you know what, it's a

1259
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 20: they're fun to watch, they play together, they take care

1260
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 20: of the ball, and they when they win, they're moving

1261
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 20: the ball and people are you know, making the extra pass.

1262
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: Miami does that every game.

1263
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 20: You see doesn't do that every game, David doesn't do

1264
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 20: it every game, and you can see it. Uh in

1265
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 20: Miami when they're down two three players, they still are

1266
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 20: able to do it. And Travis Steele has done an

1267
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 20: outstanding job and his coaching staff because they're fun to

1268
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 20: watch and they're never out of a game. But as

1269
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 20: far as U See goes, you know they're playing great.

1270
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 20: I think the Kansas thing with you know, with what

1271
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 20: they have going on in Kansas.

1272
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: You know, one day they're good.

1273
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 20: Next day they lose by twenty the Arizona which is

1274
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 20: a really good team.

1275
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 4: But I don't know what. I don't know who the.

1276
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 20: Real university Sincinnat Bearcats. I'm not sure about their identity.

1277
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got BYU. They got b YU on I

1278
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: think Tuesday night they won five of six. Maybe you

1279
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 2: heard me on the intro that already has them as

1280
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: a next four out or basically a team that is

1281
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, is still in the conversation. Is there a

1282
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: way for them to play their way into the NCAA

1283
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: Tournament without winning the Big twelve conference?

1284
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 20: I don't know. You know, you don't want to leave

1285
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 20: it to that because you don't know, you know, the Miamithing.

1286
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 20: Miami gets in and they don't win the conference tournament.

1287
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 20: I mean they that's a bid you lose. I just

1288
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 20: will tell you this. I wouldn't want to go into

1289
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 20: that conference tournament and have to play them early, because

1290
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 20: you don't know, Cincinnati can beat anybody. They can lose

1291
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 20: to anybody, you know, but they're starting to get an identity,

1292
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 20: they're starting to get some confidence. And for everything they've

1293
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 20: gone through, you know, with Wes and what was happened

1294
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Speaker 20: with him and talking to the radio people and this,

1295
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 20: that and the other thing, these guys are still in

1296
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 20: the hunt. That's that's pretty unbelievable. And if you know

1297
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 20: the betting odds and that, you know fifteen days ago,

1298
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 20: you know, there's no way, there's no way in heckness

1299
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 20: whatever this team whatever, you can get a sniff at

1300
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 20: the end CLA tournament, but they are right there. I

1301
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 20: don't think Lenardi's far off. And you know, Byu is

1302
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 20: down their best player, you know, so they have a

1303
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 20: good shot of winning that they can win out to

1304
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 20: the rest of the regular season and then you know,

1305
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 20: in a couple of games in the tournament, I could

1306
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 20: definitely see them being in there. But at all the

1307
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 20: tends you're putting yourself in a position, like we've already said,

1308
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 20: you know, what other people do will determine your fate,

1309
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 20: and that's not the way you want to, you know,

1310
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 20: slide it back into the tournament.

1311
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: The team I have trouble figuring out that maybe you

1312
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: do too. Is Kentucky. I mean Vanderbilt just smacks him

1313
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: upside the head a couple of weeks ago in Nashville,

1314
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: and they come back last night and they beat Vandy

1315
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: ninety one seventy seven at RUP. They seem to be

1316
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: a team. The more I watch them, they seem to

1317
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: be almost a different team with every possession. They've got

1318
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: great players. I mean Oi is terrific. Colin Chandler is

1319
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: is a good ballplayer. They're right now, nineteen and ten,

1320
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: they're in. I think they're in unless they completely collapse.

1321
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: I think Leonardi has him as a as a nineteen

1322
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: as a I'm sorry, a seventh seed in the tournament.

1323
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: But that's a team that just at times just seems

1324
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: to turn it on and turn it off. I do

1325
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: you have a handle on Kentucky and what's going there.

1326
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 20: I think it's it's a real factor with this this

1327
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 20: transfer porter and I you don't know. Mark Pope is

1328
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 20: a great coach. I mean I did a couple of

1329
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 20: his games, you know, when he was out West, and

1330
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 20: I was like, man, they're well coached or disciplined. When

1331
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 20: I watch UK, sometimes sometimes they are disciplined, Sometimes they're not.

1332
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 20: You know, there's not a these teams that are really

1333
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 20: good continuously consistently either have a good point guard or

1334
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 20: have a two returning players that have played and know

1335
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 20: the system. You know, when you bring in transfers, it

1336
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 20: is it's hard enough for them to adjust to what

1337
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 20: they're doing in school and campus of even go to

1338
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 20: school anymore, I know, Carson Beck, maybe they don't go

1339
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 20: to school. And then you got to get them on

1340
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 20: the court and you've got to make sure they fit

1341
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 20: into what you want to do as a coach. And

1342
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 20: I think Mark Pope is is really He's got a

1343
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 20: lot of players, a lot of money, same as you see,

1344
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 20: but I don't see the identity. I don't know night

1345
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 20: in the night out, who we're going to go to,

1346
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 20: Like in the old days, you know, in the old

1347
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 20: days when when Kentucky was really good, you know you

1348
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 20: knew Nash Burd's going to get the ball down low.

1349
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 20: You know you've got Shepherd's going to do this. You've

1350
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 20: got guys right now. I look at it night after night,

1351
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 20: You're not sure who is going to be the one

1352
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 20: that's going to come up and make the good play.

1353
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: You know you're going to have to call time out.

1354
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 20: To set up a play at the end of the game.

1355
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 20: Same with Cincinnati. You know, that's why I say that

1356
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 20: Miami is unique and that they don't have to, you know,

1357
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 20: call time out, like you know I watched yesterday, Mit

1358
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 20: calls the time out. You know when they're down three,

1359
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 20: you know they're down three with a minute and a

1360
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 20: half left. You shouldn't have to call time out. You know,

1361
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 20: you should be able to say, Okay, this is what

1362
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 20: we do. This is how we handle this. You know,

1363
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 20: you guys take take advantage of and figure out get

1364
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 20: the best shot. We don't need to go for three.

1365
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 20: We're can just go for two. We go for two

1366
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 20: and you know we got time. They don't do that.

1367
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: Now.

1368
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 20: Kentucky's in the same situation, and that's why you never know,

1369
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 20: night in and night out, especially on the road, whether

1370
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 20: they're gonna they're gonna bring it or not. That's why

1371
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 20: I think the Kansas game with Cincinnati sort of woke

1372
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 20: me up a little bit to think, yeah, they do

1373
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 20: have a shot.

1374
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Uh Steve Wolf, our guests, have you ever

1375
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: seen or been a part of a game where the

1376
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: head coach throws his own player out? Speaking of Mick.

1377
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 20: Uh. I love Mick, I mean, I really do.

1378
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: But it was the most bizarre thing I think I've

1379
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: seen on a basketball court in a long time.

1380
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 20: Well, I think there was some a couple of different things.

1381
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 20: Number one the Providence you know Tim English, you know,

1382
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 20: he has no control of that team, and what he did,

1383
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 20: how he explained it to me made me sick to

1384
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 20: my stomach. Now, that was a dirty foul, and I

1385
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 20: think Mick wanted to make you know, especially he and

1386
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 20: Isae are very very close, and you know Tom is

1387
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 20: It took a stand on that, saying it was a

1388
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 20: hard foul and it shouldn't have happened. He should have

1389
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 20: been thrown out or whatever. I think Nick number one

1390
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 20: wanted to be in that camp. But he also was

1391
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,480
Speaker 20: frustrated with his team. And so when you have frustration,

1392
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 20: not just in that game, he has had frustration all

1393
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 20: year long. He literally lost it. And you know, and

1394
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 20: these coaches.

1395
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: Now are losing it. I mean, how about col last

1396
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 4: night and Golden.

1397
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 20: I mean it's just I think that you're going to

1398
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 20: see more and more coaches say listen, I'm gonna go

1399
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 20: broadcast college basketball games and get rid of it. I

1400
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 20: can't deal with, you know, not knowing night at a

1401
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 20: night out what's gonna happen. It's it's worse now than

1402
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 20: I've ever seen college basketball. But it's still fun to watch.

1403
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh, it's great to watch. You just don't know who

1404
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: the hell's on what team. And it's going to change

1405
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 2: after this year. Against for the players, but for the

1406
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: for the fans, for the viewers, it's kind of like,

1407
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: who's this guy? Where he come from? And how come

1408
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: he can't integrate himself into this team. It's very frustrating.

1409
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's.

1410
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 20: Really bad is that I think it's bad for the fans,

1411
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 20: and I'm bad for the boosters because back in the

1412
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 20: day Ken Nil, when Obanon they won the lawsuit, it

1413
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 20: was name, image and likeness, all right. So now you've

1414
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 20: got schmucks that are twelve on the team getting nil

1415
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 20: money and nobody really knows who they are. Where's the name,

1416
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 20: image of likeness and that it used to behave you're

1417
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 20: selling my shirt in the store, I get a piece

1418
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 20: of that.

1419
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: Now it's not.

1420
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 20: Now it's like, hey, let's go ahead and let's ask

1421
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 20: the boosters for all this money, or you know, get

1422
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 20: a hedge fund to do it, you know, and these

1423
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 20: hedge funds use it as marketing. That's fine, but don't

1424
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 20: come back to the boosters. The boosters shouldn't have anything

1425
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 20: to do with it. You know, Hey, we're going to

1426
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 20: promote you want.

1427
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 4: A new locker room.

1428
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 20: Hell, we'll help you with that. You know, we'll help

1429
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 20: you with this, with that, but not to pay somebody.

1430
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 20: And then they're going to leave the next year, you're

1431
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 20: you know, Desk Claude, Hey, does we're getting money for

1432
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 20: doesk Claude? He goes out to the USC, goes out to

1433
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 20: the US and gets more money.

1434
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 4: Where's my money?

1435
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 20: I just gave the program? And then does Claude leaves

1436
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 20: and in a midle of year say I'm done playing.

1437
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 20: I'm gonna I'm gonna.

1438
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 4: Shut it down.

1439
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 20: So now he can go another year, and he goes

1440
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 20: someplace else and get more money.

1441
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: Sure, and none of it's regulated. No.

1442
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean to look at what's going on with

1443
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby. I mean, he goes out to Texas Tech

1444
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: and he stiffs apparently, according to this lawsuit you see,

1445
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 2: says that he stiffed him a million dollars on his

1446
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: nil And I think that's just the tip of the iceberg.

1447
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 20: But who's gonna pay that? And this is what's said, Yeah,

1448
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 20: Texas Tech will pay it, all right, Texas Tech will

1449
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 20: pay it. And no harm, no foubt.

1450
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: No.

1451
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 20: You know, Cincinnati put a lot of time, energy and

1452
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 20: money into the source fee. And there's no way I

1453
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 20: know his lawyers saying that he he gave U see

1454
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 20: all this. No, there was one hundred other football players

1455
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 20: out there that gave two. He gave a piece. But

1456
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 20: it's just now, it's the identity. You know what, if

1457
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 20: you're not getting any money at all and you're the

1458
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 20: offensive lineman protecting that son of the gun, it's not there. Anyway.

1459
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 20: We could talk all day.

1460
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to get you.

1461
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: Worked up, Steve. It's very early on a Sunday here,

1462
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: you got half the day to go. I just don't

1463
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: want to get you worked up at all. And it's

1464
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: too early to use the pool, I know, But I

1465
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: just I enjoyed talking basketball with you all the time.

1466
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: I hope you're right about Miami. I think I do

1467
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 2: think they're going to run the table anyway through the tournament.

1468
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: They're going to win their last two. They're going to

1469
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: go into that selection Sunday Unbeat and it's going to

1470
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: be one of the great stories, I think ever in

1471
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: college basketball. But I just hope if there's a stub

1472
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: toe along the way that the committee doesn't take it

1473
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 2: out on them. But you know what, maybe that's a

1474
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: topic for us down the road for this day. Thanks Steve,

1475
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: we appreciate it.

1476
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 4: Stay well, talk to you soon.

1477
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 20: Ken, thanks so much.

1478
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, this is the portal and Nil. It

1479
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: goes back to that old Seinfeld joke. I forget what

1480
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 2: episode it was, but he said, you know so anymore

1481
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: when you watch a team, as long as you watch

1482
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: a team, at the end, you're just rooting for the uniforms.

1483
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: You really don't know who the players are. There's a

1484
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: lot of truth to that. So eleven twenty six on

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Speaker 2: this Sunday, it's a Sunday Morning Sports Talk seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Sterling is in. They'll solve all of the world's problems

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Speaker 2: Julian say in Ohio State. I'm just saying, Julian saying.

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01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: Profootballfocus dot com, of course, is the most in depth,

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01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: the most analytical website out there when it comes to

1508
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: college football. And the man on this case is Max Chadwick.

1509
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: He is kind of like their college football guru, and

1510
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: he has done the math, he has run the numbers,

1511
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: and Julian saying is the top returning college football quarterback

1512
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Guess who else? Made the top

1513
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: ten list. Brendan Sorosby, now with Texas Tech. He at

1514
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,440
Speaker 2: the epicenter of a lawsuit with the University of Cincinnati.

1515
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: This has been the week of the Combine. The NFL

1516
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: Combine up in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium. Defensive backs

1517
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: were on the field Friday, tight ends on the field

1518
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday. Yesterday was quarterbacks and wide receivers and

1519
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: running backs, and today it's offensive linemen that have the spotlight.

1520
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: And the combine wraps up tomorrow on Monday. But somebody

1521
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: who is staked out there is the heart, the mind,

1522
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: the brains, in the soul of everything college football. At

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:47,520
Speaker 2: profootballfocused dot com. This guy is so immersed in videotape

1524
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 2: and analyzing an in person analysis. I don't know how.

1525
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: I don't ever know how this guy has any life

1526
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: outside of college football. Maybe he can fill us in.

1527
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: Here is the aforementioned Max Chadwick. Max, how are you

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: on this glorious Sunday.

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 21: I'm doing great, Ken, thanks much for having me on.

1530
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 21: Your intros are always the gold standard. I would say

1531
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 21: I appreciate me on a guess.

1532
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: Well, I speak truth to power and nobody leaves my

1533
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: show with bad self esteem. So the NFL never goes away,

1534
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: which is good for you. Football never goes away, which

1535
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: is good for you. But the NFL is a master

1536
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 2: at it, are they not. It's only really out of

1537
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: the headlines about two or three weeks in any given year.

1538
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: They're masters at mastering the narrative, aren't they.

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01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, they are you mentioned before. I mean it never ends,

1540
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 21: honestly in the NFL. You know, once the Super Bowl's over,

1541
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 21: you get right into the NFL combine. Free agency starts

1542
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 21: for a little bit rare after that too, and then

1543
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 21: I'll see the draft comes too, and that's.

1544
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 20: The draft's over.

1545
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 21: You have a little bit of time off, but then

1546
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 21: all of a sudden, training camp starts, and preseason and

1547
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 21: the new season starts to as well. So yeah, the

1548
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 21: NFL's kind of mastered how to have a stranglehold, I

1549
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 21: would say, in the country right now. And you know,

1550
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 21: football never ends, and he's just there right there.

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: You have to look at a number of players up there,

1552
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: but is there one player and all of the players

1553
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: that will be up there, either at the podium or

1554
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: working out, is there one player that you're most interested

1555
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: in seeing workout or hearing from.

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 21: I think Rvel Rees, the linebacker out of Ohio States,

1557
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 21: would be really fascinated to watch this week and just

1558
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 21: how athletic is the honestly, because you know, there's a

1559
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 21: lot of people talking about him maybe being number two

1560
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 21: overall pick in.

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 4: The draft this year to the Jets.

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01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 21: So yeah, I think Arvel Rich is probably guy that

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01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 21: I'm really looking forward to watching here at the combline.

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll keep an eye on him too, just be

1565
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: cause you say so. Did you have a story right

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: now on Pro Footballfocus dot com college football the top

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01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: ten returning quarterbacks for the twenty twenty sixth season, and

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: at the top of the list is Ohio Stage Julian Saying,

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01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: And I found that interesting Number one. I think Julian

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 2: Saying is a terrific quarterback and his numbers that you

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: lay out here from PFF dot com support it. It's

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: got a new offensive coordinator though in twenty twenty six.

1573
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 2: How does that factor in?

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 21: Yeah, it certainly does. You know, It's definitely a big,

1575
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 21: a big thing to watch out for for Ohio State

1576
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 21: this year with Brian Hartline leaving to become USF PAD coach.

1577
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 21: So you know Ryan Day is still obviously be very

1578
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 21: involved with the offense to play callings. I'm not expecting

1579
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 21: two hundred drop off there, but yeah, it's gonna be

1580
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 21: fascinating to watch next year. But I do think Julius

1581
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 21: saying is historically accurate, and he and Jeremiah Smith together

1582
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 21: next year or four month of the most lethal partnership

1583
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 21: in college football.

1584
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: Seventy seven percent accuracy on his passes, I mean, that's crazy.

1585
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: You compare him, and rightfully so to Bo Nicks and

1586
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: Mac Jones what they did in their time in college football.

1587
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: Seventy four point two percent accurate throw rate is the

1588
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: new single season PFF record. I mean, anything he does

1589
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 2: this year has a better chance of disappointment than impressiveness.

1590
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know, having a season like he had,

1591
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't it lead you to believe that maybe

1592
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: a fall office is in the works for this guy,

1593
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: even if it's just a couple of percentage points.

1594
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's hard to reach those highs dimentioned before, like

1595
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 21: almost record setting high for the Advocate. Third highest completion

1596
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 21: rate in collegeball history. He's the highest grated quarterback in

1597
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 21: college football this past year or too, But I fully

1598
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 21: expect him to be, you know, one of the top

1599
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 21: quarterbacks in the country once again this year, if not

1600
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 21: the top quarterback. And I think he's firmly in the

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 21: Heisman conversation right now for next year, and firmly in

1602
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 21: the number one overall bit conversation for next year's draft too.

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: Dante More of Oregon. I was surprised when he said

1604
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: he was coming back to play college football in twenty

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01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: twenty six, and of course back at Oregon. That was

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01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 2: very early in the process. What do you think factored

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01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: into his decision to do that. Was it some information

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01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: he got about his eligibility, not his eligibility, but his

1609
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: status in the draft.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 21: I think he would have been a top three pick

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 21: in the draft if he did declare.

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Speaker 6: I think it was more.

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Speaker 21: Of you know, you know Ken you see all the

1615
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 21: time in the NFL now how it's not really a

1616
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,480
Speaker 21: developmental league for quarterbacks anymore. You've better be ready to

1617
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 21: play well immediately. Really in the NFL, you might get

1618
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 21: like two or three years. Then if you're not playing

1619
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 21: well by then, you're probably out of it. And you know,

1620
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 21: Dante More, one real season of being a starter at Oregon.

1621
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 21: It was a terrific season, which is why he is

1622
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 21: my number two quarterback in the country. But we know

1623
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 21: with nil now he's making a lot of money next year.

1624
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 21: I heard all coourse of seven to eight million dollars

1625
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 21: next year, which of course is not as much as

1626
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,839
Speaker 21: gonna be making in the NFL if he did declare,

1627
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Speaker 21: But it's still a good chuck to change, you know,

1628
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 21: developing college for another year, come out next year with

1629
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 21: a lot more experience, and then be ready to roll

1630
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 21: in the NFL once you get there. That's probably why

1631
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 21: he did. Also some unfinished business offsea right with Oregon

1632
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 21: losing in the College Football playoff semifinals. I think Oregon,

1633
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 21: with doteymore next year right now, is the number one

1634
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 21: team in the country going into next year, so he's

1635
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 21: probably wanting to win a national pedal with the Ducks

1636
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 21: next year too.

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: You got arch Manning from Texas three Trinidad, Shambliss from

1638
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: Old Mess back for a sixth season after a judge

1639
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: gave him that temporary injunction to allow him to play.

1640
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: But what what is around him? I mean, how much

1641
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: will he have around him in twenty six that he

1642
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: did not have around him in twenty twenty five.

1643
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think I think Ole Miss obviously bringing back

1644
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 21: Keon Lacey, who guy, I should just put on my

1645
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 21: top ten running backs list today too as well. Keywon

1646
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 21: Lacy the oldmost running backs, my number two running back

1647
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 21: in the country. So you have those two right there.

1648
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 21: The receiving course a little depleted, but they always have

1649
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 21: talented players there.

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 6: I think Trinidad shambless. So you showed this past year

1651
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 6: that he is one of the.

1652
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 21: Best quarterbacks in the country and almost should be very

1653
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 21: very happy that he won his preliminary induction against the

1654
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 21: Scuba and gotten under your availability.

1655
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: You have three quarterbacks on this list that are transfers

1656
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: that are leaving through the quarter and one is Brendan Soorsby,

1657
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: who spent the last couple of years quarterbacking at the

1658
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati. The last two seasons with Soresby, the

1659
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 2: UC team lost five straight. I'm just wondering, has he

1660
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: found nirvana in Texas Tech or is there some sort

1661
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 2: of crimp in his style when it's crunch time.

1662
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 21: No, I think, you know, at Texas Tech, I thought

1663
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 21: he was great this past year. Cincinnati, you know, obviously

1664
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 21: one of the five highest great quarterbacks in the country twice,

1665
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 21: so high on my list, and I think at Texas

1666
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 21: Tech is more talent around him. I think so the

1667
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 21: Techa Tech offense.

1668
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 4: Is loaded next year.

1669
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 21: They have one of the best run games in the country,

1670
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 21: a really good receiving corps, a good offensive line, and

1671
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 21: then the defense once again should be one of the

1672
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 21: best in the country. I think Texas Deck is firmly

1673
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 21: the Big Twelve favorite going into next year to go

1674
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 21: back to back in that conference. So yeah, I think

1675
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 21: it's more talent around him that Tech deck. I think

1676
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 21: I wouldn't be surprised to even even a better year

1677
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 21: from Soresby with the Red Raiders next year than he

1678
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 21: was at Cincinnati.

1679
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: WHI chad in college football the combine going on in Indianapolis,

1680
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: and our guest Max Chadwick has the story Top ten

1681
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: returning quarterbacks for the twenty twenty sixth season. Bengals made

1682
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: a little news up there. Max. It almost sounds as

1683
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: though they're not going to pursue a trade to get

1684
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Max Crosby in from Vegas, which means most likely they'll

1685
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: hang on to that tenth overall pick. I think Caleb

1686
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 2: downs is a no brainer. My question is will Caleb

1687
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: Downs be available? It's ten overall, and I'm just wondering

1688
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: what of Downs and where he is right now with

1689
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 2: the combine, and then of course the college pro workout

1690
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: days that are conia come up in places like Ohio

1691
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: State very soon.

1692
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: Well.

1693
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of interesting that that the

1694
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: Bengals said, you know, we value draft capital. We've always

1695
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: valued draft capital, and I guess the Max Crosby thing

1696
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: at this point to me at least looks like it's

1697
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: not going to happen.

1698
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 21: What about you, Yeah, I think Calee Downs probably he

1699
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 21: might be available. Mbretend it's actually fifty fifty coin flip

1700
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 21: for me right now. You know, as we know, safety

1701
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 21: kind of usually dip in the draft a little bit,

1702
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 21: even if they're really good. You know, Kyle Hamilton fell

1703
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 21: out by the top fifteen in his draft, which I

1704
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 21: was crazy Derwin James the same way. Cale Downs, though,

1705
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 21: in a draft like this kens not as loaded as

1706
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 21: the top. I think I can see Cale Downs being

1707
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 21: a take before a number ten overrawl. But if he

1708
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 21: is there at number ten overrawl, I mean the Bengals

1709
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 21: ever since that got rid of Jesse Bates. They've had

1710
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 21: one of the worst, if not the worst safety group

1711
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 21: in the NFL over the last few years. So Cale

1712
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 21: Downs would transform that unit immediately, and I would almost

1713
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 21: sprint that card in if he was available with an

1714
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 21: utendo brawl pick.

1715
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: All right, Maxie, you're ready for the big question. This

1716
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: is the big question to this entire interview. I want

1717
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: to make sure you're prepared for this. Are you ready?

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Speaker 21: I'm set ken?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How many times do you think Pro Footballfocus dot

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Speaker 2: Com will allow you and your cadre of workers that

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Speaker 2: are up there right now? How many times do you

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Speaker 2: think they will allow you to go to Saint Elmo's

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Speaker 2: for dinner?

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Speaker 6: We haven't gone.

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Speaker 21: I actually, unfortunately, I think leave tonight where I say

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Speaker 21: the whole week, but we have not going to state Anmals.

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Speaker 21: We actually went to a Brazilian steakhouse last night, which

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Speaker 21: really really good. The first I've ever been to to

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Speaker 21: there go to chow so that was pretty good. But yeah,

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Speaker 21: unfortunately st Anmals, I don't think is in the cards tonight.

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Speaker 21: I did do it last year, which is really fun,

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Speaker 21: but don't think it's in the cards this year.

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Speaker 20: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: You of course have receipts for last night's dinner, right,

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, of course there will not leave without both.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The story is college football Top ten returning quarterbacks for

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01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season. Max, always great having you on.

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 2: Stay well and we'll bring you up down the road. Thanks,

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01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: appreciate you, Ken Julian saying number one returning quarterback in

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: college football according to Pro football Focus dot com. By

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01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: the way, even now, there are way too early preseason

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01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: predictions for college football. Indiana number one according to ESPN

1745
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. That'll be interesting with Mendoza moving on.

1746
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 2: Also surrat and they're terrific linebacker Aiden Fisher gone. But

1747
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: it's just like any other sport in college now, you

1748
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: just keep adding names, adding players. The I'm trying to

1749
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: see where Ohio states there. They are at sixth according

1750
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 2: to ESPN, sixth projected finish and the highest rated Big

1751
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 2: twelve team according to ESPN before a down of football

1752
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: has been played. Texas Tech with Brendan Sorosby's quarterback. They

1753
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: also got a really good defensive end from Miami Adam Trick,

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01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: who played in Oxford now he's with Texas Tech. Texas

1755
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Tech plays at UC. I want to say mid season,

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01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: maybe towards the end of the season, and they have

1757
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 2: designated that game homecoming not just for UC, but also

1758
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: for Brendan soores me. I love a Little shade eleven

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Speaker 2: fifty eleven fifty right now on this Sunday Sunday Morning

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: It's a Sunday showdown. Get the rigs in as today at.

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Speaker 2: I've got my new pick beer this week and you

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Speaker 2: should try it. If you love you love Irish red Ale,

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Speaker 2: you will love the Celtic Red Irish Ale. It is

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Speaker 2: absolutely delicious, a classic red ale with notes of caramel

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Speaker 2: and toffee and a smooth finish. It is perfect for

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Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's month. Last other is celebrating it that Little

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Speaker 2: Miami Brewing. Oh by the way, if you will walk

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Speaker 2: into Little Miami Brewing on a Tuesday and you say

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Speaker 2: I want Ken Bruce pick beer, They'll give you two

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Speaker 2: dollars off. What a deal, and then maybe you can

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Speaker 2: pair it with some of the other great items they

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Speaker 2: have on that menu. Just Berlent the shrimp lists pizza

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Speaker 2: is back. That's the pizza with the tied chili sauce

1777
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: and mozzarella and seasoned shrimp and red onion fresh basil.

1778
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: It's wonderful. They have shrimp tacos. They got clam chowder.

1779
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: They've got your set if you're Catholic. And it's lent

1780
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: And where is this Why I keep telling you, It's

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01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: along the Little Miami River in the heart of downtown

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01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: historic Milford. This is Jim Hello.

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Speaker 7: Jim started advertising with iHeartRadio way back in April and

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Speaker 7: now Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Eleven fifty five News Radio seven hundred a WLW across

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Speaker 2: the news breaking yesterday that Red's Hall of Famer and

1787
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: one of the great pitchers in their baseball legacy, Wayne Granger,

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01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: passed away. He was the first pitcher and I did

1789
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: not know this until I read it in Cincinnati dot

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01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Com yesterday first pitcher to appear in ninety games in

1791
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: a single season. He did that for the Reds back

1792
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine, and he was part of that

1793
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 2: trade that began to piece together the Big Red Machine.

1794
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: In October sixty eight, Granger was traded by the Cardinals

1795
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: with Bobby Tolin to the Reds in exchange for Veda Pinson,

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01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: but Red's pitcher Wayne Granger pitching a lot for the

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Speaker 2: Reds and then some for the Cardinals, and I think

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01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: he even wound up with the Yankees at one point

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01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: in his career, passing on at the age of eighty one.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we have Reds baseball today at three five,

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01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: and that's their exhibition game against the against the A's,

1802
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: and Andrew Abbott is going to be on the mound

1803
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 2: for the Reds. Will be opposed by JT. Gen of

1804
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: the Athletics right handed. Again. Abbot, of course, is like

1805
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: a lot of pitchers out in Arizona in Florida in

1806
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: spring training, had an ok first outing of the spring

1807
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: two winnings, two hits, two runs, and so he is

1808
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 2: back on the mound today to take on the Athletics

1809
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: two thirty airtime, and we will start our pregame coverage

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Speaker 2: from Goodyear. I think it's Goodyear. Maybe it's the home

1811
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Speaker 2: of the Athletics. Who knows, it doesn't matter, does it.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like spring training scores. It don't matter,

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: it's what the player does. Anyway, Our coverage begins at

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Speaker 2: two thirty five here on seven hundred WLW. That'll do

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Speaker 2: it for me, as we now stand up and salute

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01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 2: the greatest country that God has ever placed on the

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Speaker 2: face of this earth on seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: The Nation Station seven hundred wl W and Pella Windows

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Speaker 1: and Doors of Greater Cincinnati along with Hamilton County Veteran

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Speaker 1: Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred wl Cincinnati New.

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Speaker 22: Information now and update on those wounded last night and

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01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 22: a mass shooting in Cincinnati with the twelve o'clock report,

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01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 22: I'm Sandy Collins breaking now. Uc Hospital says eight people

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01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 22: were treated there after a shooting at the Riverfront Live

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Speaker 22: concert venue on Kellogg Avenue overnight Now. Two of those

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01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,520
Speaker 22: who were treated at the hospital were sent home afterwards.

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01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 22: Five others are in stable condition, and one person we're

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01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 22: told is in critical condition right now. Cincinnati Interim Chief

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Speaker 22: Henny has called a news conference for two o'clock this

1831
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 22: afternoon to share what he can about this mass casualty event.

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Speaker 22: We'll have it for you here. Witness has told WCPO

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01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 22: overnight that this was a kind of a high security event.

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01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 22: There were searches at the door, plus a dozen paid

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01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 22: private security officers there along with Cincinnati police on the site.

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01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 22: Still about one o'clock, bullets began to fly. One victim's

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01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,440
Speaker 22: family says they were attending a birthday party at Riverfront

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01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 22: Live and complained that the admission was reportedly fifty bucks

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Speaker 22: and they still weren't safe.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 22: The latest traffic and weather together looks pretty good so far.

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01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 22: No highway problems to tell you about now.

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Speaker 2: We're starting March on a cooler note.

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Speaker 16: Temperatures will be in the low forties today with a

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01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 16: breeze coming in from the northeast. Like yesterday, sunny in sixties.

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01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 16: Tonight into Monday morning, snow chances are ramping up. Will

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01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 16: have about an inch of snow possible and some spots

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01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 16: slightly higher in other spots. This could certainly impact your

1852
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 16: morning commute by the afternoon in the lower forties. Rain

1853
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 16: chances are ramping up for Tuesday. From your Severe Weather Station,

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Speaker 16: I'm nine first one of meteorologists to kjj COOS News

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Speaker 16: Radio seven hundred WLWU.

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Speaker 22: Sunnys guys right now thirty nine degrees here in the

1857
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 22: Trin state. The Pentagon now reporting US casualties in Operation

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01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 22: Epic Fury.

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Speaker 12: A statement from sen Com US Central Command saying as

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01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,839
Speaker 12: of nine thirty am Eastern March first, three US service

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01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 12: members have been killed in action and five are seriously

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01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 12: wounded as part of Operation Epic Fury. Several others sustained

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01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 12: minor shrapnel injuries and concussions and are in the process

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01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,839
Speaker 12: of being returned to duty.

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Speaker 22: As statement says that the identities of the service members

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01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,919
Speaker 22: will be withheld for twenty four hours after their families

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01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 22: have been notified. These are the first deaths that we're

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Speaker 22: hearing about in this attack on Iran. Democratic Senator Adam

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01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 22: Schiff of California, speaking with ABC News this morning, questions

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01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 22: the Trump administrations claimed that there was an eminent threat

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Speaker 22: to the US from Iran.

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Speaker 18: US Central Command announced Sunday morning that three US service

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Speaker 18: members have been killed and five have been seriously wounded

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Speaker 18: in the attacks on Iran. Sencom did not say where

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,520
Speaker 18: these deaths and injuries occurred and what branch of the military.

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01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 18: These service members were in President Trump and his video

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Speaker 18: announcing the US strikes on Iran Saturday, said there would

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Speaker 18: be risk to US forces in this operation.

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01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 20: The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and

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01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 20: we may have casualties that often happens in war.

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Speaker 18: Karen Traver's ABC News the White House.

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01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 22: Again breaking now. Three US service members confirmed dead so

1883
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 22: far by the Pentagon this morning. Back here at home,

1884
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 22: while police chase beginning in Norwood ended up about an

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01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 22: hour and a half later, having led cops into Indiana

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01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,759
Speaker 22: and then back over the border again into her township.

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01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 22: The driver smashed into two police vehicles during that pursuit,

1888
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 22: eventually was stopped by a third cop who used a

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01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 22: pit maneuver into a tree. Nobody was seriously hurt. No

1890
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 22: name has yet been released. And the Fourth Street Bridge

1891
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 22: coming down tomorrow in northern Kentucky between Covington and Newport.

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01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 22: They're going to implode at about ten am. If you're

1893
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 22: in the area within a thousand feet, you're told to

1894
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 22: shelter in place or to get out of that area

1895
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 22: while you can. They're going to have warning signals about

1896
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 22: five minutes before the blast, and then after it's imploded.

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01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 22: They will have another ciren blast to let everybody know

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01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 22: that the area is clear. I say, Andy Collins. We

1899
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 22: have another update at twelve thirty News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 15: This report is sponsored by AutoZone.

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Speaker 6: Get in the zone. It's time to say good night

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Speaker 6: to that check engine light.