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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from dou Wor Back now to

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Speaker 1: the Dobor Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is a modern day miracle made possible by

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk futurist reporter kevin' SURREALI tells us about Neurolink.

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Speaker 3: And I've talked to you about this before, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It's fifteen minutes, right, and with that you're going to

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Speaker 2: learn something you didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's like I always say, come down my

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Speaker 4: rabbit hole. Now, We've got a bunch of episodes. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: we talk about robots in one episode, and then we

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Speaker 4: talk about you know, civilization, starter kids, and then I'm

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Speaker 4: interviewing an astronaut, and then it's quick conversations and I

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Speaker 4: will say, I'm always thinking to myself, I do wish

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Speaker 4: I had more time. But the thing I'm upseessed with today, Larry.

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Speaker 4: As I'm driving back from Penn State, I was speaking

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Speaker 4: at my alma mater and I gotta say I love

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Speaker 4: pet State. I mean, it is a beautiful campus this

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Speaker 4: time of year.

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Speaker 3: But did you say goodbye to James Franklin the football coach?

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Speaker 3: Did you see him?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's all actually know you can break some news.

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Speaker 4: As I'd be sarcastic now, I said, listen, if you

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Speaker 4: guys want to fire me and give me a fifty

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Speaker 4: million dollar check, but gladly, gladly take it, you know,

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Speaker 4: like what the heck is going on up there? But uh,

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Speaker 4: but I love that place. It's it's Happy Valley for

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Speaker 4: a reason. Man, But I got my girl stickies. Enough

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Speaker 4: of that. Promoting the show, Hello Future. So I remember

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Speaker 4: when I was a kid, and I remember you would

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Speaker 4: walk down the street and you'd say that person had

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Speaker 4: a nose job or other work done, or that person

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well okay, well you know, okay, I mean whatever. So,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to be not crass on your program

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Speaker 4: because it's still early right, so we maybe that person

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Speaker 4: has marked time. I look forward to the day where

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Speaker 4: we're saying, has that person had a brain job? Has

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Speaker 4: that person had a brain implant? Because these microchips and

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Speaker 4: elon musk and neurallink and everything that's happening, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the future is here. There's you know, we can talk

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Speaker 4: about him. We'll go into it on the show about

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Speaker 4: you know, the long term implications of having bad actors

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Speaker 4: like China and Russia controlling the chips that are going

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Speaker 4: to be implanted into our brains. But in the short term,

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Speaker 4: I mean talk about a medical miracle. To be able

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Speaker 4: to see someone who's lost a limb be able to

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Speaker 4: have a brain ship and they're able to use their

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Speaker 4: prosthetic arm immediately, or they're able to regain speech and

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Speaker 4: be able to communicate via computer. I think that's an awesome,

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Speaker 4: awesome thing for these people.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this at length back when they were

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk was getting just railed when they were going

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Speaker 2: after him, when they were they were wanting they wanted

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Speaker 2: him to be hung by his feet in the hall.

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Speaker 2: And what I said was, this is a guy that's

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Speaker 2: going to help the paralyzed walk again. He's going to

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Speaker 2: help the blind. See, he's not a villain. This man's

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Speaker 2: not a villain because he's trying to cut the government.

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Speaker 2: He's a miracle worker. And this is the primary example

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Speaker 2: of that. Please talk a little bit more about it,

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Speaker 2: because I think this is extremely important topic because this

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Speaker 2: is the future and it's not that far away.

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Speaker 4: No, it's already here. And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: my dad just had heart surgery, he had stints place

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Speaker 4: in his hearts. And we live in a time now, Larry,

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Speaker 4: where that's not uncommon, you know what I mean. I mean,

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Speaker 4: no one blinks when you say I've got to have

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Speaker 4: my knee replaced or my hip orplace. And so why

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Speaker 4: don't we have that same preventative care on our brains.

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Speaker 4: And so, especially when it comes to Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's,

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Speaker 4: we're on the cusp of these brain technologies being preventative

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Speaker 4: and to be able to get preventative health care for

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Speaker 4: our brain, which is the engine for our entire lives.

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Speaker 4: We already have these conversations, by the way, I mean

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Speaker 4: it dates back to when your mom and dad would

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Speaker 4: say eat your vegetables it's good for your brain, or

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Speaker 4: an apple a day keeps the doctor away, or even

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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago with those zenpech when that

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Speaker 4: conversation really took off. So this idea that somehow brain

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Speaker 4: ships are not going to be able to help us,

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Speaker 4: especially as a nanotechnology, and what do they ultimately do?

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Speaker 4: All they do if your brain is a bunch of wires,

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Speaker 4: and you think of an electrician in your mind going

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Speaker 4: into the ceiling of the wall and you see all

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Speaker 4: of the different colored wires and maybe one of them

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Speaker 4: short circuited. The brain ship essentially is just a fix.

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Speaker 4: It's an ability to get the wires and to jump

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Speaker 4: start the wires again, to connect to them, and to

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Speaker 4: be able to help get your brain back to functioning.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that's the very simple version of this.

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Speaker 4: But from a longer term perspective, you know, in the

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Speaker 4: next fifty seventy five, one hundred, two hundred years, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's national security systemic questions that should be asked. I

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Speaker 4: believe in innovation and an America democracy, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure that American companies and innovators

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Speaker 4: are at the forefront of this, and not that actors

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Speaker 4: who are controlling the brain chips.

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Speaker 3: But Elon Musk's company is far out in front of

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Speaker 3: this is aren't.

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Speaker 4: They, Yes, for sure? But there's also other industries supporting it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I think from an economics and I'll

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Speaker 4: put on my old Bloomberg hap for a second. From

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Speaker 4: an economics standpoint, the data that is required to do this,

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Speaker 4: the manufacturing to build these chips, in addition to the

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Speaker 4: cyber secure network and systems that this neuralink would have

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Speaker 4: to operate on. It's an entire new industry, and that

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Speaker 4: I really hope is what Hello Future ultimately gets into

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Speaker 4: and that inspires people to think beyond. Is that this

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Speaker 4: shift and the systems that we're all building for our

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Speaker 4: future is you know, it starts with, as you said,

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Speaker 4: a blind person being able to see, or someone who's

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Speaker 4: who can't who can't walk being able to walk again.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, I'm so glad we talked about this story today.

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Speaker 2: I was amazed at it when I first heard about it,

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Speaker 2: and people can learn more about it, I'm sure on

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Speaker 2: your podcast, Kevin. Kevin serreally host of the podcast Hello

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Speaker 2: Future on the iHeartRadio app, and he talks about things

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Speaker 2: like this all of the time, things that aren't on

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Speaker 2: the radar but should be. Kevin, it was good to

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Speaker 2: talk to you. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 4: Thank you later. I appreciate you.

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