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Speaker 1: We wrapped stuff up on bumper to bumper on Friday

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Speaker 1: night your Minnesota while to make a little bit of news.

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Speaker 1: And the man who orchestrated pretty much all of it, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess he had to have a partner. But on

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Speaker 1: this side of it, it's kind of enough to join

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Speaker 1: us off the top of the program. Wile general manager

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Speaker 1: Bill Garon is uh with us now, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the program. Are you still on the adrenaline adrenaline rush?

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Speaker 1: Are you past that? How would you describe the current

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Speaker 1: Billy Garren mood?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, good morning, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I mean, you know, we Chris callaher and

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Speaker 2: I flew out and picked Quinn up yesterday and we

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Speaker 2: got to just chat with him on the plane for

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Speaker 2: a while, and you know, it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 2: believe that he's actually on our team now still, but

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Speaker 2: really excited to you know, see him in his debut

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Speaker 2: and he's really excited to be here. You know, he

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Speaker 2: loves hockey, he knows this is a great hockey market

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Speaker 2: and excited, you know, to be in Minnesota. So we're

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm really excited about it, all right.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should not presume, and radio you're never

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Speaker 1: supposed to presume that your audience knows everything that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. So for the maybe eight or nine people

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Speaker 1: in the market who don't know you, you swung a

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Speaker 1: deal in which you bring I think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: say a superstar defenseman a Quinn Hughes, you give up

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Speaker 1: unprotected first round pick in twenty twenty six. Does any

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Speaker 1: of that scare you?

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Speaker 2: No, not really. I mean, Nick, we got the player

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Speaker 2: that we wanted to get, and you know what, if

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Speaker 2: you're going to get a player of this caliber, you

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Speaker 2: have to you have to pay, you have to give up,

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Speaker 2: you have to give stuff up. You don't get these

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Speaker 2: guys for free. So hey, listen, is it like I said,

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Speaker 2: like we we put a lot of time and effort

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Speaker 2: you you have a relationship with them. It's not the

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Speaker 2: easiest thing to move on from them. But when you

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Speaker 2: look at it, you know, look at the player you're

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Speaker 2: getting and look at the appet Yeah, they they they're

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Speaker 2: they're already good players. You know, we feel that we

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Speaker 2: got you know, a great player right now. They're just

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Speaker 2: at different stages. So I mean, look, there's always a

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Speaker 2: I'm just really happy about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's drill down for the casual hockey fan, because everybody

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Speaker 1: So for the casual hockey fan, drill down a little

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Speaker 1: you think he brings and ads collectively that you also needed.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, honestly, he's he's one of the best

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Speaker 2: I mean, his power playwork is elite. Is yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's just it's tough to describe. He just you knowing

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Speaker 2: it's tough to describe, but he's just he's good at

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Speaker 1: You So let's go back to let's try us to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was scouting. I was actually going

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Speaker 3: He told me what he told me what they were

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Speaker 3: here you go, and that was my first offer.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to get to that part in a minute.

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Speaker 1: So how much time you've elapsed from between between when

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Was it almost did you immediately call him back?

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Speaker 1: Or are you still on that same phone call and

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, actually I called Patrick Alvin. He's the GM,

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Speaker 2: Jim's the president. But so Patrick told me that Jim

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Speaker 2: was going to be handling this deal. So by the

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Speaker 2: I talked to Jim the next day. I was flying home,

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Speaker 2: I can satisfy that, and here's what I'm offering you,

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Speaker 2: and uh, it just kind of went from there.

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Speaker 1: Give me your thinking on giving them your best offer

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Speaker 2: Because with you're not going to fool anybody. H They're

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna be ask your way into getting Clint Hughes.

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Speaker 2: And to show people that you're serious, you got to

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Speaker 2: come out of the gate swinging and if you want them,

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Speaker 2: go get them. You're not You're not gonna out smart anybody.

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Speaker 2: And this like it's just and that's not that's not

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Speaker 2: what I want to do. I want to make a

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Speaker 2: a crappy offer. And that's not the way I'd like

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Speaker 2: to do business. This is what I think is fair.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot, but he's he's a great player, so

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot.

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Speaker 1: And what what what day was that that you made

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Speaker 2: That was Monday?

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Speaker 4: That was Monday?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was Monday.

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Speaker 1: So here's the obvious question. I don't think you get

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Speaker 1: after we make what we think is a hell of

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Speaker 2: Well, I you know what, Jim, Jim was great to

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Speaker 2: I checked in with him once and you know what,

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Speaker 2: Then on Friday he called me back and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I think we I think we can

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Speaker 1: Is that when you were you had to you were

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Speaker 2: Yes, I actually am right now too.

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Speaker 1: Now did you throw I mean any of the meatballs

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Speaker 1: and exultation against the wall when you knew that the

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Speaker 1: deal was done? I would have think whatever damage you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we celebrated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you did. That's that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: How hard was I mean, goo that you gave up

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Speaker 1: good pieces across the board, But I know I remember

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Speaker 1: of him. So how hard is it to lose him

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And it's tough to give up these young

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Speaker 2: But you know, this is just part of the business. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know this business is no different. And but we're

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Speaker 2: just we're just yeah, you know what. I hope those

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Speaker 2: best for them. And uh, you know it's yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, but it's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Much of the hockey community that I've heard from since

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Speaker 1: But you know how it works in this town. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think any town, they go, well, now, what exactly

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Speaker 1: is this contract situation? Again, Well, there's no guarantee here.

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Speaker 1: His agent's making it clear he's very happy to be here,

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Speaker 1: but he can't promise anything. So what do you say

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Speaker 1: to those who have those obvious concerns that that's the

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Speaker 1: biggest gamble in the part of a deal that they

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Speaker 1: are all wanting to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Wow, then you won't make the deal. Jesus that then

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Speaker 2: you're going to sit there and I don't know, mediocrity

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is, Well, you'll never make a deal.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, you're going to be afraid of

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Speaker 4: Do you feel? And what is your approach going forward

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Speaker 4: with that?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: And listening to your comments, it's a sense is Look,

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say, Yeah, that's fair to say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you gotta you gotta stick your neck

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Speaker 1: You've been in NHL locker rooms, as you know as

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the guys are really excited, you know

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Speaker 2: They you know, they've showed that, you know, we can

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Speaker 2: I I believe in them. I think we can. I

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Speaker 1: Was this was this you keeping your promise to Caprice off? No, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean we all assume that part of it was, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Don't you don't have to worry about that. We take

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, although I look, all I want to

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Speaker 1: Text, let me ask you this question because it's and

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Speaker 1: Did you see the comments from within the hockey community,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, honestly, you don't think of everything,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's nothing, but you know it turned out to

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in collaborations what you're saying, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this matters to you, but Louis

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Speaker 1: Here on a day where I knew he knew by

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Speaker 4: And he's of course in Florida. The hockey guy you.

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Speaker 4: He is thrilled.

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Speaker 1: And part of it that he and I talked about

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Speaker 1: He didn't always get it right, but he believes it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And I agree with him, like it's he's

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Speaker 2: we we want to win a Sally Cup, and you

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Speaker 1: Well, you also have to have an owner, I assume,

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Speaker 1: if he if he continues to be as good as

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Speaker 1: he is.

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Speaker 2: Correct, And I ask you, let me ask you a question. Sure,

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Speaker 2: do you like when you interview other gms and other

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Speaker 2: people in like the other sports, do you talk about

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Speaker 2: like the money like that, Like oh yeah, well.

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Speaker 4: Well let me give you let me answer. I'll answer

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Speaker 4: it this way.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious because like kind of the NHL, we're kind

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Speaker 2: of gone into this new in this new land where

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Speaker 2: guys are making real big money, and like it always

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Speaker 2: comes up because you know, we've got the hard cap

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Speaker 2: and oh man, you're gonna have to spend all this money, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and this and that, and I just didn't I didn't know,

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Speaker 2: like if because like if you look at like the

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Speaker 2: NBA and MLB and some like they make way more money.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know if you kind of approach it like that. But

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Speaker 2: I think Craig. Craig owns a team, he's them. Fine,

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Speaker 2: he's in it to win, yes he is. Their finances

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Speaker 2: are good, like we're okay if if we're not, if

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Speaker 2: it's not okay, then we wouldn't be in it. And

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Speaker 2: you know what, he wants to win. It's like you can't,

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Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like the trade. Like I talked

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Speaker 2: about the trade, you have to pay to get a

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Speaker 2: player of that caliber. In order to win the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: You have to pay great players to be on your team.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't come free. You can't. You're not. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: but you're not going to be at the minimum the

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Speaker 2: floor of the cap and win the Stanley Cup. You're

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Speaker 2: just not. So if if we're if we're in it

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Speaker 2: and we're going for it, and we're going for it,

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Speaker 2: we're not we're not trying to do it. Oh just

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Speaker 2: on our term. If we can only spend this much

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Speaker 2: and see if we can squeak one out. Well, you're

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Speaker 2: in it.

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Speaker 1: I am not here to suggest any of this spending

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Speaker 1: would be reckless at all.

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Speaker 4: It's more, you know, okay, let's let's double check, let's

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Speaker 4: be sure. No, Well, here's I'll give you the exception.

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Speaker 1: Whenever if I ever talk to anybody from the Twins,

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Speaker 1: and I don't as much anymore because there's not that

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Speaker 1: much to talk to. We never talk money, Bill, because

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Speaker 1: that organization doesn't want to spend any money. And and

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Speaker 1: I know that's not what you're here to do. It's

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Speaker 1: my job to take shots at other organizations. But I honestly,

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Speaker 1: this is what I think appeals to fans about the approach,

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Speaker 1: the ambitious nature of this approach.

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Speaker 4: It may or may not work out perfectly, but.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like, wow, that's an investment, uh, literally and figuratively.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Wolves have largely done. And and

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Speaker 1: I think I and that's definitely what the Vikings have

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Speaker 1: tended to do. Now they have more money to work with,

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Speaker 1: but it's all relative. Let's they all still have certain

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Speaker 1: pots from which they work and not every g you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe even the NHL. There may be owners of say no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to. You know, take that kind of

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Speaker 4: a kind of a a step.

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Speaker 2: There are in every sport. Yes, that's why they never win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's it exactly all right. So you're

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Speaker 1: you're on meatball patroling. What's the dish you're making now?

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Speaker 1: Is it a breakfast, a brunch dish or working dinner?

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Speaker 2: What we we just I was up at like five

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Speaker 2: this morning. I was just crossing a turning, and because

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Speaker 2: of everything that happened the other day, I didn't get

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Speaker 2: to complete the you know, the meatball extrapaganza. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we're making a bunch for Christmas Eve. Like I'm making

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Speaker 2: them now. I got the vacuum sealer out. They're going

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Speaker 2: to go in the freezer. We'll pull them out for

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 4: It's impressible.

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Speaker 2: I think I made I made six pounds already this morning.

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Speaker 4: Six pounds. That's a lot of meat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have like forty something people. Okay, nobody's

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Speaker 2: gonna go hungry.

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Speaker 4: It's a good event. Do you find that process relaxing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just like cooking in general general, and it's uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's great. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Last question because we haven't really talked about the team,

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Speaker 1: and I think we should so leaving aside this move.

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Speaker 1: Prior to this move, what beyond obviously some really good

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Speaker 1: goaltending most of the time, what else has changed for you?

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Speaker 1: What what do you see that you can can you know,

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Speaker 1: demonstrably tell us this is why we seem to be

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Speaker 1: turning some things around.

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Speaker 2: I think we've matured a lot, Like I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: what the guys are under understanding a little bit more

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Speaker 2: like how we need to play each and every night,

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Speaker 2: especially in the games. Like you know, we've we've beat

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Speaker 2: every good team this year. You know, now now we

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Speaker 2: have to back it up, like you know, we we

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Speaker 2: beat a good team that we lose for a weaker team. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but we're we're we're at least kind of making a

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Speaker 2: step in the way we play in these you know, big,

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Speaker 2: big regular season games. So I think there's a I

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Speaker 2: think there's a maturity that's that's going on here with

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Speaker 2: our team. And yeah, it's good to see.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the meatballs, Congratulations on the deal.

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Speaker 4: And I'll add one other thing.

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Speaker 1: Some often our interviews are different than they are with

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Speaker 1: other general managers in large measure because you allow the

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Speaker 1: jousting more, which I do appreciate, and you can't do

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Speaker 1: that with everybody. Some people get too uptight. Some people say,

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Speaker 1: well I'm shutting it down. I'm not doing that. So

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Speaker 1: if they are sometimes they feel a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: It's because you allow them to be different, which as

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Speaker 1: a host I much appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, I love it. No, I always love coming on

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Speaker 2: with you, and I appreciate the jousting. You always ask

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Speaker 2: good questions. Thanks, no matter who writes them for.

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Speaker 1: You, well large largely Russo obviously. Yeah, I just quote

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Speaker 1: him and thanks, have a good morning.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you. That's Bill Ghon, the WHI general manager.

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Speaker 4: Still working on the meatballs that