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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that because the kid could clean up.

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Speaker 3: Boy, but he can't. He can't. He's a good look

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Speaker 3: at you live.

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Speaker 4: I heard radio tomorrow night, Thursday night football Chargers are

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Speaker 3: You have another pair of I don't care. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: Tier ramsam okay back seven years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cause it's gonna be one of those things. So

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Speaker 3: you know, this is a hard room. It takes a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not very good at reading rooms, So give

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Speaker 5: me some more time. Caller, I haven't read the football

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Speaker 5: season very well.

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Speaker 4: Caller number six is going to win a couple of

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Speaker 4: tickets to tomorrow night's game Chargers Vikings at SOFI Stadium,

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Speaker 4: so one eight hundred five to zero one five three

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Speaker 4: four eight hundred five to oh one k F. I again,

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Speaker 4: Caller number six is going to win the next pair

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest about my emotions and why I probably

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Speaker 5: said what I said is that I have been excited

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Speaker 5: that football is back. But also last night basketball was

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Speaker 3: This is great, like or tomorrow night. It is what

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Speaker 3: I meant. There's more basketball tonight.

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Speaker 2: Billy Blanks is on the TV, the Tybo guy.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen him since about nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: You guys remember Tybo? Do you guys ever get into that?

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Speaker 1: Just see you guys know?

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Speaker 5: Gary looked at Shannon with a smile that only a

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Speaker 3: He does that? You' noticing it? A guy? Oh he

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Speaker 3: made a video game of Tybo. Look at him? Go reboot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of cool. Justin Warsham has joined as

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Speaker 4: we talk about world of parenting. Well, we've talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about what you do to your kids earlier.

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Speaker 3: On in life that can screw them up pretty bad.

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Speaker 4: And there is an article from NEWSWEK actually about child

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Speaker 4: psychologists talking about some of those habits that we parents

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Speaker 4: engage in that create adults who struggle.

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Speaker 3: I love this quote.

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Speaker 5: They said, the intention is love, but the outcome is

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Speaker 5: often dependency. By making things smooth and easier for our kids,

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Speaker 5: we're accidentally making them more dependent on us. It's not

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Speaker 5: really our intent. We're trying to take care of them.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a generalization. The world is not an easy

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Speaker 4: what color your skin is, if you have money, you

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Speaker 4: to be. It can be made easier by some of

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Speaker 4: And the way parents try to make it easy a

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Speaker 4: lot of times is by patting on the head and

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Speaker 4: you're the greatest, and you're so pretty, and you're so

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Speaker 4: cute and you're so smart. That is not what happens

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Speaker 3: No one. I shouldn't say no one.

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Speaker 4: Very few people will walk by you and pat you

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Speaker 4: on the head and say you're so cute and you're

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Speaker 4: It's like the difference between walking down Main Street, USA

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Speaker 4: and Topeka, Kansas and walking down fifty seventh Street in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Is that sure? I don't even know if that's in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, where people are gonna yell, get out of

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Speaker 4: you so slow? I mean, that's what the world is

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Speaker 4: more like. And if you try just to soothe your

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like people are going out of their

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Speaker 5: way to make me feel good, right, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. You guys are my friends, and we all

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Speaker 5: heard how this started.

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Speaker 3: Like I just I was. I was.

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Speaker 5: I was overjoyed that there was a football game I

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Speaker 3: Me, were very dismissive.

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Speaker 1: This is part of the point we're making.

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Speaker 3: I accept you.

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Speaker 1: For who you are.

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Speaker 3: We don't often see genuine joy.

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Speaker 4: This don't know what to do, We don't more protection

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is your version of I think that

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Speaker 5: Like I love watching cats slap things and videos online. Now,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a new level of old

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Speaker 3: I like it, like, just watch it go. It makes

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Speaker 5: I don't know what this is and I don't want

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Speaker 5: Because my older son is very smart wise, like I

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Speaker 1: I said, try to clip.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know what's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 4: There's quote a quote from this professor that we're talking

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Speaker 4: Kids are so easily triggered, traumatized, all of that stuff

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Speaker 2: Is it a pushback then that so many of them

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Speaker 3: Ooh, like you, you feel like you if you're.

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Speaker 5: Like I say, anxiety, you need something as a human,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you need a struggle.

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Speaker 5: Struggle, you need an you need some kind of avert

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Speaker 4: Maybe.

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Speaker 5: And so what's happening is it just seems like the

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Speaker 4: It's a really it's a big job. We've made it

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Speaker 5: Sure so, but what they're talking about here is these

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Speaker 3: They said.

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Speaker 5: This is as per a twenty twenty four study for

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Speaker 5: by Pube Research, written and spoken communication skills and critical

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Speaker 5: thinking skills are rated extremely at very important by around

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Speaker 5: eighty five percent of workers.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four National I'm messing this up.

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Speaker 5: What I'm trying to say is is that they're saying

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Speaker 3: That's the better way to say that than what I

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Speaker 4: And at this point, the vast majority of us have

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Speaker 3: That's all we do.

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Speaker 4: We don't ask it to go through and compare this

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Speaker 5: And then they also talk about being able to develop

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Speaker 3: So you have to go back and double check resource.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have any clue how to try to instruct

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Speaker 4: begin to tell them, hey, that video of Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Well the same way, you know, sometimes you have to

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Speaker 3: I looked, I flew that plane. And I didn't fly

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Speaker 5: I didn't have to take off. No, nor did I

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Speaker 3: But I grabbed the wheel halfway down the freeway. That's right.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, yes, I put the thing in a barrel

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, you're not. You left that door wide open.

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Speaker 2: I tell my kids he wasn't really flying the planet.

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Speaker 4: But when you tell it that way, that does I

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Speaker 3: This is her like spinning it.

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Speaker 5: You were just having a conversation, and these conversational moments

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Speaker 3: Always leaning forward. She's always leaning forward.

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Speaker 5: It's like Caesar Malansa's dogs that see red like you

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Speaker 3: It's a visceral reaction that you have and be like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did? You did this to yourself? Offman? You

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Speaker 3: Have your kids used AI yet?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say last night my son or not

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Speaker 5: The night before I was going to say good night,

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Speaker 5: I go, you got everything done right? And he was like,

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Speaker 5: he goes, oh no, I go what He goes, I

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Speaker 5: And he came in and he goes, look at this

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Speaker 3: Uh No, he had to.

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Speaker 5: He's playing Hades in Hadestown in like a local children's

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Speaker 5: he was Andrew Carnegie, and he debated like a prominent

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Speaker 5: It was a great idea, and he loved it, and

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Speaker 1: Use AI at all of that.

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Speaker 5: He's like no, And he looked at me like why

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Speaker 2: It'thing's fun listening to your kids grow up. I'd say

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Speaker 2: watching your kids, but I don't want them. It's just

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Speaker 2: kind of fun to hear all the anecdotes you bring up.

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Speaker 5: I'm in a phase right now where I'm really liking it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a tool they're going to have to

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Speaker 5: I do my job of being the old guy with

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Speaker 5: I don't know, make sure you know how to really

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm also.

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Speaker 5: A guy who uses a GPS to go to the

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