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Speaker 1: On the show, it's Lessons from Europe. Tina and I

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Speaker 1: just got back from spending a couple of weeks over there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just sharing not so much a travelogue of

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Speaker 1: with you some architectural lessons that I was reminded of

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Speaker 1: as we saw some pretty interesting things over there. I've

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Speaker 1: been talking to you about Paris, why and how a

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Speaker 1: place like Paris, and I hope that was encouraging by

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Speaker 1: the way. You know, the reason I went into, you know,

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Speaker 1: the history of the city of Paris was because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really get talked about much in terms of what

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Speaker 1: a miracle it was of a turnaround from one of

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Speaker 1: the worst slums ever in Western Europe to the most

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Speaker 1: beautiful city in the world in like twenty years twenty

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Speaker 1: years time. Why master plan? Why a vision, a story

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Speaker 1: to tell and the way that it's told and the

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Speaker 1: way it was enacted, and that kind of thing should

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Speaker 1: be encouraging to you and the little house that you

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Speaker 1: live in, that tracked house that didn't really come with

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Speaker 1: a story that was just kind of mass produced and

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Speaker 1: stamped out, and there you are. And you've always wondered,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you know a place like this could

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Speaker 1: ever actually really really express who we are. Well, the

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Speaker 1: answer is yes, yes it can. And it doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to get bigger, and it doesn't need to get fancier.

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Speaker 1: It just needs to shift in the direction of good design,

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Speaker 1: telling a better story. That's what we're all about here,

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Speaker 1: helping you get that done. It's not just about home improvement, okay,

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Speaker 1: or maybe I should say it's my definition of home improvement,

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Speaker 1: because what passes for home improvement in our world is,

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Speaker 1: you know, new stuff, A new water heater. Yeah, technically,

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Speaker 1: I guess that improves your home. Repiping your house, putting

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Speaker 1: a new roof on, Yeah, sure, those are improvements in

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Speaker 1: the insurance, you know, bottom line kind of ways. But

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Speaker 1: real home improvement is allowing design to transform the story

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Speaker 1: of the house as those other things are being done.

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Speaker 1: Home maintenance, home repair. That's what I would call and

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Speaker 1: classify those other things. And I'm just as interested in

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Speaker 1: those things with you as well. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to confuse the two. Repiping your house is repair

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Speaker 1: and or maintenance. Repainting is maintenance, but changing the design

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Speaker 1: motif of your home, changing design elements in your home,

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Speaker 1: that is home improvement. That makes sense, I hope. So

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Speaker 1: one of those ways that or things examples that I

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Speaker 1: saw of that was a Notre Dame cathedral that went

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Speaker 1: through this violent, just devastating, heart breaking fire about seven

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Speaker 1: years ago and in that time from then until now.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they're still working on parts of

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Speaker 1: the cathedral. There's still scaffolding up in parts outside. There's

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Speaker 1: still a crane erected there moving materials and doing various things,

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Speaker 1: but the material the cathedral proper, the main cathedral has

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Speaker 1: been reopened now. And I told you that the fire,

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Speaker 1: the most devastating thing that the fire did was melt

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Speaker 1: down the lead sheeting that made up the roof. And

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Speaker 1: this was a roof that was built in twelve hundred AD,

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Speaker 1: and that lead was particular particleized particle Indian. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: the lead was carried into the smoke everywhere, and that

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Speaker 1: made the whole site a hazmat site because now we've

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Speaker 1: got an eight hundred year old stone embedded with a

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Speaker 1: coating of smoke and lead. So what are you gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna wipe the site clean. You're gonna take

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Speaker 1: what the French decided to do was to restore it,

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Speaker 1: to clean it, and that meant getting the getting the

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Speaker 1: lead out, literally, getting the lead off the cathedral meant

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Speaker 1: cleaning every square inch of every surface in the entire cathedral.

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Speaker 1: What a task that is. Wow, And they've accomplished it.

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Speaker 1: And what that has done is it made Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: the most unique ancient cathedral on planet Earth. Because if

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Speaker 1: an eight hundred year old cathedral that looks like it

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Speaker 1: saw a lot of cathedrals in our European trip here,

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Speaker 1: and they're very impressive and they're very beautible, but every

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Speaker 1: all that cleaned without just you know, spending gabillions and

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Speaker 1: inside as well, you know, hundreds of years of candle

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Speaker 1: on every surface. Notre Dame currently has zero percent of

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Speaker 1: that anywhere. And that golden, creamy bright Parisian limestone that

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Speaker 1: everything is made out of Notre Dame is now gleaming, gleaming.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing to see a cathedral as it originally

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Speaker 1: appeared to the original builders at that time. Inside and out.

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Speaker 1: There are panels of color in the ceilings inside that

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Speaker 1: have not been exposed in this way for hundreds of years.

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Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it was a very special experience, but

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Speaker 1: also again application to us. It doesn't matter to me,

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Speaker 1: I get it, Believe me, the French people get it.

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Speaker 1: The cost, the expense of a disaster happening. The pipe breaks,

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Speaker 1: the hardwood floors are ruined, the roof leaks, the room

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Speaker 1: is destroyed, an earthquake ravages part of your foundation, or yeah,

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Speaker 1: a wildfire burns your home in irreparable ways. And yet

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Speaker 1: for those who are dedicated to retelling that story, what

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Speaker 1: we see time and time again is that it can

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Speaker 1: be done and is done. And so it's about, you know,

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Speaker 1: human will and the desire to make something meaningful out

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Speaker 1: of a disaster, and that can happen in your home

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Speaker 1: just as easily, and probably more easily by far then

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Speaker 1: it happened in Paris with Notre Dame Cathedral. Just a

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Speaker 1: word of encouragement to you, that's all. That's all it's

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Speaker 1: meant to be, is that no matter what life is

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Speaker 1: dishing out in regards to your home, there is always

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Speaker 1: a story to tell. And you can always make the

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Speaker 1: decision to throw your hands up and walk away, or

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Speaker 1: you can dig in and decide our story is worth

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Speaker 1: telling in this place because it's where we live, all right.

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Speaker 1: When we return, guess what we're mid show. It's time

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Speaker 1: to go to the phones and find out what's going

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Speaker 1: on with your home. We'll do that right after this

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Speaker 1: Good Sunday morning to you, my friend. I'm glad you're here,

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Speaker 1: happy to be speaking to you about this all important

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Speaker 1: thing that we both call home. It is a lovely

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Speaker 1: day here in southern California. Wherever you may find yourself,

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Speaker 1: I hope the weather is treating you half as well.

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Speaker 1: Although for March you know, we're headed into some like

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Speaker 1: Can we get a little spring? Little spring, just a

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Speaker 1: little little spring. Okay, all right, we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: be more to share with you. But first we're in

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Speaker 1: mid show right now, which means it's time to go

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Speaker 1: to the phones, and let's, without any further ado, talk

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Speaker 1: to Leslie. Hey, Leslie, welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Thank you hiding. I have a question. I hope I

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Speaker 3: can explain it clearly. I just had my house tinted fumigated,

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Speaker 3: and when they came to do the final inspection, they

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Speaker 3: went into the attic and kind of looked around, I guess,

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Speaker 3: and the guy that came down from the attic said,

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Speaker 3: you know, you have four broken two by fours up there.

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Speaker 3: They're snapped in two. And I said, well, why didn't

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Speaker 3: you fix those when you repaired the wood? And he said,

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Speaker 3: it's not termite damage, it's stress cracks. And he took

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Speaker 3: a picture of them for me.

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Speaker 4: And what it.

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Speaker 3: Is is four individual two by four it's that go

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Speaker 3: floor of the attics. They're connected to the trusts at

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Speaker 3: the top end, I think, And I don't know what

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Speaker 3: they are, how important they are, or who to call

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Speaker 3: to fix them, or if they even need fixing. I

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Speaker 3: don't know how long it's been like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got you. Uh So these two by fours

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Speaker 1: they're headed from there. They're they're coming from the very

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Speaker 3: The picture that I that he took, that he provided

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Speaker 3: me with, they go up. They're at a forty five

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Speaker 3: because that part is cut out of the picture. And

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Speaker 3: I believe they attach at the floor of the attic

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Speaker 1: And I got you, I got you. So here here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, so there are two kinds in a

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Speaker 1: typical home. Uh, there are two kinds of angled wood

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Speaker 1: that you'll find up in the attic space. They're braces. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just call them braces. Okay, they're braces. You can

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Speaker 1: the ridge. Sometimes you'll see a couple of these, one

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Speaker 1: at each end in opposite directions of each other, headed

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Speaker 1: that's the top part of the roof. And just as commonly,

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Speaker 1: if not more commonly, there are there's pieces of wood

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Speaker 1: boards that are running across the roof rafters about mid

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Speaker 1: span of the rafters as they come down. Those are

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Speaker 1: called Perlin braces. Now, the other braces that go all

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Speaker 1: couple of those, and those are braces that are designed

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Speaker 1: they're at opposing angles to each other, the pearlin braces

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Speaker 1: the mid span of the rafters so that the rafters

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Speaker 1: don't sag. And so whether these are pearlin braces doing

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Speaker 1: are ridge braces coming down at an angle. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the most important moment for those ridge braces are when

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Speaker 1: the house has been framed up but the roof hasn't

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Speaker 1: but they should be a draft. You shouldn't just let

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Speaker 1: two ways to do that, Leslie. So I want you

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Speaker 1: to hang tight, and when we come back, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to very quickly explain how those can be dealt with

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Speaker 1: without tearing a bunch of stuff up in the attic.

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Speaker 1: See you hang tight. Everybody, hang tight, Let's fix Leslie's attic.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So, Leslie had her home fumigated recently, and on

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Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense. Teen, And thank you. You've given

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Speaker 5: Hidin, thanks so much for taking my call. First time caller,

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Speaker 5: Well, we have an automatic water fill for our pool,

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Speaker 1: Of course it is. Of course it is. Why couldn't

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Speaker 5: It makes total sense. My husband's here shaking his head

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Speaker 1: Oh you're so very welcome, and thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: Right now, we are mid show and we're taking calls.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the phones. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Scott. Hey, Scott, welcome home.

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Speaker 4: Hey Aden, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, my friend. How can I help you?

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Speaker 4: All right? Well, I've got a tub problem. I got

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I do so. But here's the important thing. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking from the tub down to the floor.

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Speaker 4: And it's just over the top of the crest of

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Speaker 1: You know, gotcha, gotch you. So we're just talking about

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Speaker 1: So here's what I if you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: take you know, two or three guys to lug it

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Speaker 1: in and slide it into place, but you know it's

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Speaker 1: cast iron tubs fall in the category in my mind

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Speaker 1: of what we call by once cry once and that's it,

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Speaker 1: and then you're done. The cast iron tub will outlast

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Speaker 1: the house right when you know, five hundred years from now,

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Speaker 1: when archaeologists are picking through the remains on the side

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Speaker 1: of your home, they will find all sorts of tiny

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Speaker 1: little clues as to everything else in your house and

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Speaker 1: the tub just sitting there in all of its glory.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so cast iron tub, and you know, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, like a Cohler Villager cast iron tub,

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Speaker 1: five foot wide tub with front apron, is going to

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Speaker 1: run you, you know, about four hundred ish dollars and

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Speaker 1: is sitting on the shelf right now at Low's and

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Speaker 1: Home depot. They're just sitting there ready to rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: And so the cast iron doesn't flex, the porcelain is

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Speaker 1: thick and uh. And then you do whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to do above it now in lieu of that, then

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Speaker 1: I would tell you jump past the steel tub, don't

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Speaker 1: get a steel tub. Steel tubs are made to emulate

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Speaker 1: cast iron, and the problem is not with the porcelain

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Speaker 1: coating on the steel tub, but porcelain is brittle, and

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Speaker 1: a steel tub flexes. A cast iron tub does not flex,

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Speaker 1: It does not flex, but the steel does. And over time.

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Speaker 1: The issue that I have with steel tubs is that

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Speaker 1: they flex, the porcelain doesn't, and the porcelain will crack.

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Speaker 1: It will crack, and so because the because the walls

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Speaker 1: are too thin, okay, and so there's too much flex

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Speaker 1: being covered with something that you know, if it was

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Speaker 1: a stainless steel tub, like a stainless steel sink, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't care because the flex. Who cares, because it's just

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Speaker 1: steel on steel. But because a steel tub is covered

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Speaker 1: in porcelain enamel, the porcelain's gonna crack because the the

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Speaker 1: base that it's sitting on flexes too much. So in

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Speaker 1: lieu of a colar cast iron tub, I would jump

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Speaker 1: to and I don't mean to be colar you know

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Speaker 1: specific here, but I would jump to a colar acrylic tub.

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Speaker 1: Now colar acrylic tubs, which is kind of more like

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Speaker 1: the Delta five hundred and Delta five hundred. It's a

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Speaker 1: decent tub, okay, but it still falls in the category

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Speaker 1: of what we call builders special. It's a builder quality

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Speaker 1: tub that does not that's not a compliment, by the way.

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Speaker 1: That's that's basically saying that it's like better amongst cheap tubs. So,

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Speaker 1: but a Colar acrylic tub it has what's called a

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Speaker 1: VI Krell material, which is a solid material with additives

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Speaker 1: to it a color bottom line. A colar acrylic tub,

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Speaker 1: it is stronger than standard acrylic or fiberglass, and so

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Speaker 1: colar tubs are far far less prone to cracking. I

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Speaker 1: would send you down the road of the cast iron first.

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Speaker 1: But if we want to save some bucks and not

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Speaker 1: worry about you know, could basically get kind of a

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Speaker 1: delta style tub that is not going to crack on you.

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Speaker 1: Then go Cohlar acrylic or Cohler Vikrell V I k

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Speaker 1: R E l L. The Krell the proprietary material that

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Speaker 1: Cohler uses and far stronger than standard acrylic or fiberglass.

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Speaker 1: But I like the cast time. Okay, Scott, Hey Bud,

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Speaker 1: thanks for your call, appreciate it, great questions, good luck.

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Speaker 1: That's solid advice for you. You're not going to be disappointed.

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