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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to you

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's the Friday feeling we need right now. And by dad,

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Speaker 3: I mean the Friday football frenzy feeling we need right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: I feel like has flown by. Really, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I thought the opposite. Oh, I feel like I blinked

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Speaker 2: man and bang, it's Friday.

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Speaker 3: That feel like it's the holiday season every year. Though

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Speaker 3: then it just it takes wile and then right when

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Speaker 3: he starts to get close, it's gone.

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Speaker 2: Things move fastly. I don't know that I agree with that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but here we are is an amazing two separate people

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Speaker 2: that work so closely we are every day. Yes, can

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Speaker 2: have such differing opinions and feelings about life consistence in time,

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Speaker 2: people have different opinions. Did you bring your life, Jackie?

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Speaker 2: We might get deep today.

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Speaker 3: That's insane. I think it's been a deep week. I

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Speaker 3: feel like we've been taking out to deep water and

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Speaker 3: by something left. People say, oh, they'll be all right.

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Speaker 3: We've treaded water all the way back to shore and

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Speaker 3: here we are on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: Can you tread water back to shore? You can if

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Speaker 2: you can find that right current. Is that called swimming? Now,

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Speaker 2: you find the right current, just tread, it'll take you there.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me put my life jacket one. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna do this to get in there. I think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about meteorological stuff. It's on points werelogical stuff.

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Speaker 3: Can you spell that word? It's a lot, Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's it's frustrating. I'll tell you that. Meteorology.

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating, especially when you got little ones at home.

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Speaker 3: You got kids wearing pajamas inside out last night. Thanks

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Speaker 3: got a snow day coming, and then the snow just

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, were they wearing rally pajamas? No, like

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Speaker 2: wore them inside out to try to christen a snow day,

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Speaker 2: or trying to.

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Speaker 3: Try to bring up on a snow day. That's the

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Speaker 3: new thing nowadays. I like that you wear your your

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Speaker 3: pajama's inside out. Thought we'd wake up to a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, you bring up a question. You

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Speaker 2: brought up pajamas, which makes me have a question. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you have a single set of pajamas, one set

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Speaker 2: that you wear one set and you wear them all week? No,

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Speaker 2: and then you wash them.

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Speaker 3: I wear them every now and then I probably get

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Speaker 3: about three wears out of them.

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Speaker 2: Then I wash them. Okay, but like, and it's.

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Speaker 3: A matching set that like matches something the kids have. Okay, God, Like,

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Speaker 3: you don't have.

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Speaker 2: A set of pajamas, no, or or a pajama set

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Speaker 2: that you wear everything? No, Okay, I'm curious how many

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Speaker 2: people do No, because I don't. No, I don't have

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Speaker 2: like pajamas. I get too hot when I sleep. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I don't have I can't wear like the long

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Speaker 2: pajama pants and blah blah blah. I don't have a

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Speaker 2: I'm always I'm constantly changing. I'm curious if people do.

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Speaker 3: we just continue to be so far off with weather.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean forecast predictions? It's hard, man, it's

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Speaker 2: it's unpredictable. I get it. I did expect four inches.

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Speaker 2: was a dusting. I don't know that it was a dusting.

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Speaker 2: It was a dusting, it was not a dusting where

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Speaker 2: I live. I think I'm a little further south than

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Speaker 3: No, Mulega brought up a point today as well. Are

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Speaker 2: maybe they just complain because they want to snow day again,

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Speaker 2: different strokes, different folks correct. I don't know, but it

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Speaker 2: does feel like nowadays it's like we're good, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: I miss I missed the times now and on Fridays,

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Speaker 3: And I remember, like when I was growing up, though,

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Speaker 3: it was on the TV. Sure, so you can go downstairs,

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Speaker 2: I always remember the pick was Seventh Day Adventist. I

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Speaker 2: now with so many school districts used for many times,

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Speaker 2: shout out to Lee Blurry. But I have to listen.

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Speaker 2: My phone's being blown up right now. I have to

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Speaker 2: mean nothing to do. It does because it's Friday, I'll

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Speaker 2: allow it. This text reads as follows, ask tone about

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Speaker 2: Sina's last match? Please, I beg you. I'm an emotional

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Speaker 2: wreck this week. What does this mean? Is John Cina? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is he actually done? Or is he gonna come back?

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Speaker 2: In two years and do that.

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Speaker 3: He has been very adamant throughout his career, throughout this

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Speaker 3: he laid out the date of where he was going

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Speaker 3: night rolls or Friday night smackdowns, and believe it or not,

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Speaker 3: when this happened, he set out thirty six dates and

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Speaker 3: eighteen matches along the year long farewell tour, and that

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Speaker 3: culminates on Saturday against the ring General Gunter, So it's

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Speaker 3: They're like, why and against someone bigger? Where's the Rock?

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Speaker 3: Rock comes out and calls Seen out one more time

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Speaker 3: for WrestleMania. But if you follow along with John Cena,

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Speaker 3: considered by many the greatest of all time. It is

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Speaker 3: John Cena's final match tomorrow night on Saturday Night's main event.

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Speaker 3: So like, are you okay mentally or yeah, yeah, I'm okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Do you like John Cene?

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 3: I think he's a stand up guy. He is like

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Speaker 3: with John Ceene. I like his messaging. Okay, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: be tough to see him go, but it is his

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Speaker 3: all nobody wanted to know, although maybe it's not Austin

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Speaker 2: I would expect John Cena to come back to wrestling

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Speaker 2: Like he's going back to Hollywood transplants, He's going back

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Speaker 2: to Hollywood. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. WWE or

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Speaker 3: The only thing I could see. The only thing that's

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Speaker 3: But the forties, Austin. People in their forties now, that's

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Speaker 3: I don't know when we're gonna get more understanding. Sharon

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Speaker 3: It's a full college local basketball slate Xaviers in action

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Speaker 3: tonight locally Kentucky, Louisville, Northern Kentucky, and Cincinnati all in

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Speaker 3: our Pickham segment and our number three. Also in our

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Speaker 3: because it's the holiday season, to put a bow on

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Speaker 3: the FC Cincinnati season. Tommy G will join us one

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna talk about it, Austin. It'll be our

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Well we'll save that for the call today.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the game itself. I believe the Falcons

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Speaker 2: Now it's right? How about that any other thing on

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Speaker 2: wondering if Todd Bowles is gonna get canned, which could

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Speaker 2: how that plays out. But it doesn't seem like it's

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Speaker 2: it's amazing. As the kick went in, Raheem Morris found

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Football in the NATI on the Friday Football Frenzy,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Some injury updates real quick.

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Speaker 3: Here Austin for the Cincinnati Bengals. I saw this from

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Speaker 3: Ben Baby. T Higgins left practice little bit early yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't expect to see t very much. Any

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Baltimore Ravens and their injury report. We

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Speaker 3: don't have today's injury report yet, but players that were

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Mark Andrews is watching the film thinking, I

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Speaker 2: says t Higgins will not play this week. So officially

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Speaker 2: what that means. Also, also, Shamar Stewart is doubtful, so

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Speaker 3: The t Higgins side of things. What this means for

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Speaker 3: at such a high level recently Austin, how much does

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Speaker 3: I know it's a welcome site what you had from

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Speaker 3: by Jamar Chase, if you're thinking to the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 3: you got to go into this game doubling Jamar and

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Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, I don't know that it changes that much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Bengals have won plenty of games without

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Speaker 3: The game we saw from Mike Kasiki last week is

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Speaker 7: Thanksava, Franzy.

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Speaker 2: Opinion to hold.

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Speaker 7: And the kick is just inside the left upright, and

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Speaker 7: there's a little celebrate going on in Charlotte, North Carolina

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Speaker 7: right now. This puts the Panthers in the driver's sheet

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Speaker 3: Okay, wake up, al So, just to reiterate, Falcons were

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Speaker 3: penalized nineteen times. They were trailing twenty eight to fourteen

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Speaker 2: They converted a third and twenty eight and a fourth

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Speaker 3: That kick happened as time was expiring, correct, Yes, Austin,

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Speaker 3: louder than what Al Michaels did to call that game winner. Look,

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Speaker 2: Do it. I love Al.

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Speaker 3: That is not acceptable. That is a huge moment in

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Speaker 3: a huge win, that makes a division race extremely interesting

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Speaker 3: in the NFC, And that's the call that was given.

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Speaker 2: Like it totally takes away from the Falcons. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, But they just won a game on

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Speaker 2: national television in come back fashion, major come back better respect,

432
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Speaker 2: like give their fans their moment, correct, And Al is

433
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: just like he never even says it's good. He's just

434
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Speaker 2: like it gets inside the upright and they're happy in

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Speaker 2: Charlotte's celeb Talk about that later, Al, come on, Yeah,

436
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Speaker 2: A lot of times I could do it in three

437
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Speaker 2: hours on the actual broadcast that they've been doing this year.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times Al just has no idea what's

439
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Speaker 2: going on, doesn't see the game the way he used.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's the thing. It's It's not been just

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Speaker 3: a one off. It's been a talking point for a

442
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Speaker 3: lot of this year.

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Speaker 2: I get that they do things differently and I can

444
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Speaker 2: appreciate it, but it just it was poor. Yeah, it

445
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: was poor. Doesn't have the juice.

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Speaker 3: It's still our call tonight. You know, it does have

447
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: the juice, wind Shulers. It's got the cheese, got the cheese.

448
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Speaker 3: Put the cheese on the cracker. Pairs well with anything

449
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Speaker 3: you could possibly have at your holiday get together thanks

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Speaker 3: to our friends at wind Shulers. We'll get to our

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Speaker 3: wind Shulers Cheesy spread of the week when we get

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Speaker 3: to our three and make our picks. For now, we've

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Speaker 3: got some time. Let's take some calls on a Friday.

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Speaker 3: Are we going here? First off, the favor of that.

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Speaker 2: Wherever you want, man, We've got Florence, We've got Boston,

456
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Speaker 2: we've got Los Angeles. You picked your world today. You

457
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Speaker 2: know what, who's been on the longest. That would be

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Speaker 2: Mark and Florence. What's up? Mark?

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Speaker 8: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: What's up out there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

462
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Speaker 9: I wanted to give it a day on Joe Burrow's comments.

463
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Speaker 9: You know, I wanted to give my pinion on what

464
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Speaker 9: I thought about what he said. Yeah, please, and uh well,

465
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Speaker 9: you know, in life, let me just say this person.

466
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Speaker 9: In life, it ain't so much about what people say,

467
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Speaker 9: it's what people don't say. And what he didn't say

468
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Speaker 9: was if this organization don't get better players in here

469
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Speaker 9: so I can compete for championships every year, this ain't

470
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Speaker 9: no fun and I'm gonna be walking out the door

471
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Speaker 9: like everybody else. I'm not gonna keep taking a beating,

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Speaker 9: you know, for nothing. That's what everything he said, That's

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Speaker 9: what I think it all meant. You know, I related to.

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Speaker 9: I remember Corey Dillon, I remember Carl Pickens. How they

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Speaker 9: were complaining about it was all based on the team

476
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Speaker 9: wasn't winning. And I think that's where he's getting frustrated,

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Speaker 9: where this team is not winning and he ain't competing

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Speaker 9: for championships and that's a problem to him. So, you know,

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Speaker 9: that's my take on what he had to say.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday.

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Speaker 9: So hopefully the organization can make some changes, because it

482
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Speaker 9: is when are you gonna get another quarterback in here

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Speaker 9: that's as good as he is, That that could be

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Speaker 9: a that could be a long time talent. Yeah, and

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Speaker 9: I said, I said this before, his career is trending

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Speaker 9: towards Dan Marino or Dan Fouts. You know where they

487
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Speaker 9: they threw the ball all over the place, scored a

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Speaker 9: lot of points, they couldn't win no super Bowls. Sure,

489
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Speaker 9: so you know, we'll see what happens. But that was

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Speaker 9: my take on that. I just wanted to call it.

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Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know, I think Jamar Chase kind of extinguished

493
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Speaker 3: a little bit of the fire that was spreading yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't expect Jamar to say anything else. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't expect Jamar to get up on the podium and say, yeah,

496
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Speaker 3: he's really been struggling. I'm worried about him. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that that Joe Burrow,

498
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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrows openly said Joe Burrow expects to win.

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Speaker 3: He wants to win Super Bowls, and this team is

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Speaker 3: trending further away from that than they are towards that.

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Speaker 3: And whether it's a direct wake up call or not,

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Speaker 3: you would hope that the organization puts the pieces in

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Speaker 3: place for this team to have its best chance to

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Speaker 3: win a super Bowl. Mike what's happening Mike.

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Speaker 8: See guys, come on, man, don't be busting up on Al.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I just need a little more energy on

507
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Speaker 2: a game winner.

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Speaker 8: Dude, he's my age. You know what happened? You start

509
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Speaker 8: running out of gas. That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, it don't work anymore if you can't do if

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Speaker 2: you can't uphold the standard. I would say that to Al.

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Speaker 2: I would tell Al that was a bad call.

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Speaker 8: The guys have what I've never heard of a criticism

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Speaker 8: of Alan fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Well, you haven't been paying attention much this year because

516
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Speaker 2: he's been getting raked through the coals this year. He's

517
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Speaker 2: had a rough season.

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Speaker 8: He might have he might be suffering from a lot

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Speaker 8: of help from them. Well, in that case, they that's

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Speaker 8: on the network. They're paying them. But he guess he

521
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Speaker 8: still wants to get a paycheck. But I can relate

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Speaker 8: to your mental process is starting to diminish. It's quite

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Speaker 8: obvious with me. So anyways, I was just surprised. Hey,

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Speaker 8: I like your idea about the bedtime attires. So what

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Speaker 8: did you say you wear tonything?

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Speaker 3: I don't wear that. It changes night to night. I

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Speaker 3: have one pair of matching pajamas that I've matched that

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Speaker 3: my kids got me that match with theirs, so when

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Speaker 3: they wear it, I'll wear mine. But other than that,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm constantly I'm switching it up all the time.

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Speaker 3: But I don't really have like set page amas.

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Speaker 8: No, I never did, although when it's cold outside they

533
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Speaker 8: do feel kind of good. I have to say that.

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Speaker 8: But my nice go to is a pair of depends

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Speaker 8: and a long white T shirt.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 8: It's called preventive maintenance. Come to sweeping. That's what you

538
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Speaker 8: never know when the old in this case, it ain't

539
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Speaker 8: the sand man, it's the poop man might come along

540
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Speaker 8: and do his thing. Todd Bowles is going to be gone.

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Speaker 8: I was listening to Tampa radio last night. This Tom Krasniki.

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Speaker 10: He's been on down there for I don't know, thirty

543
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Speaker 10: years or something. He's from New York, but he's been

544
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Speaker 10: in Tampa for a long time. And evidently the Glazier family,

545
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Speaker 10: the owners are very judicious in how they go about

546
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Speaker 10: hiring and firing people, but they will do it.

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Speaker 8: They will pull the trigger.

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Speaker 3: It's been disappointing environment and I know they haven't been healthy,

549
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Speaker 3: and they got back healthy last night. It's good to

550
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Speaker 3: see Mike Evans and Godwin and everyone making it a difference.

551
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Speaker 3: But you can't lose a game like that last night

552
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Speaker 3: in the middle of a playoff hunt.

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Speaker 8: No, and Baker didn't. It won't like Baker hit.

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Speaker 2: A terrible game.

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Speaker 4: I got.

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Speaker 8: He threw for almost three hundred Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, it wasn't like in a game like that,

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Speaker 3: you think, Okay, Tampa turned it over four times. Both

559
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: teams turned it over once. That's the that's the crazy

560
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Speaker 3: thing about it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know the deal with Now this is

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Speaker 8: the other rumor, and it's suctly a rumor. Gruden is

563
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Speaker 8: the Glazier family is all. They've always loved John Gruden.

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Speaker 8: He's like a son to them. That's how they ton it.

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Speaker 8: And he's still got a home down in Tampa. I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised, so was. It wouldn't surprise me a bit.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I like it or not, but

568
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Speaker 8: that doesn't matter what I like. But it could happen

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Speaker 8: because at the end, all that has the Glazier and

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Speaker 8: they're nice people. The other question I have is why

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Speaker 8: do you throw Philip Rivers in against probably the best

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Speaker 8: detention football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. It's one thing to get back

574
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Speaker 3: and play. It's another thing for your first game back

575
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Speaker 3: at forty four to go to Seattle and play against

576
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Speaker 3: that defense and that crowd. I don't envy that at all.

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Speaker 3: I think it shows to the desperation in which INDI's

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Speaker 3: operating with. But man, my goodness, that is a tall,

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Speaker 3: tall ask of Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 8: I mean at that age, ton I mean, this is

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Speaker 8: going a little overboard. But he could get severely hurt, right.

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Speaker 2: I could, yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Because you know he never was a mobile quarter. Now

584
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Speaker 8: he's a rocket passer all through through and.

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Speaker 2: A good one.

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Speaker 8: But I'm worried about it tonight because uh, we'll watch.

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Speaker 8: You'll go around, he'll go to fourteen right right, and

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Speaker 8: the uniform will be clean at the end of the night. Okay,

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Speaker 8: thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one weekend, all right. A couple more here,

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Speaker 2: We got a little bit of time here. What's up, John,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon follows Happy Friday Friday.

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Speaker 11: I think what happened with al Michaels last night is

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Speaker 11: he either teased Tampa down to a pick him or

595
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Speaker 11: he had the money line on Tampa Bay. He just

596
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Speaker 11: lost all interest in the game when that happened.

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Speaker 2: That's very disgusted.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he was disgusted. I mean he joined the club

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Speaker 11: on that one.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 11: He obviously he's gone afraid to talk about gambling, and

602
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Speaker 11: so is he most certainly is how many times would

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Speaker 11: we've seen him say it's not over yet?

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Speaker 2: Thirty five to three?

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Speaker 11: Right, So maybe that has something to do with Al's

606
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Speaker 11: alotness down the stretch of that game. But I just

607
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Speaker 11: wanted to I wanted to weigh in on obviously, Joe

608
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Speaker 11: burrow comments from Wednesday, And I'm a person who overanalyzes things.

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Speaker 2: So bear with me.

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Speaker 11: But I think Joe Borrow is a guy who doesn't

611
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Speaker 11: do anything without planning it. So here's one thing I'm

612
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Speaker 11: going to have a takeaway of. It's probably comical and idiotic.

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Speaker 11: When he wears a ski cap, he tends to be

614
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Speaker 11: much more introspective and dower when he's out there with

615
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Speaker 11: his hair flowing. And the dude has an incredible head

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Speaker 11: of hair and let it flow. Brother, he seems a

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Speaker 11: little bit different.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it's a it's a yeah. Maybe maybe it's

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Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a tip. When you see

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Speaker 3: the hat go on buckle In.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think it's cause and effect that he's

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Speaker 11: in a dour mood and we're gonna go with a

623
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Speaker 11: ski cap. But I think the part of his frustration

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Speaker 11: is this, and I'm gonna look at the offensive line,

625
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Speaker 11: because he was asked in the press conference, is this

626
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Speaker 11: the best the offensive line has played since you've been here?

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Speaker 11: And he said, yes, the last two games. And let's

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Speaker 11: go back to the off season. We all agree they

629
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Speaker 11: needed help at guard. They drafted Dylan Fairchilds, who's been outstanding.

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Speaker 11: They signed Lucas Patrick who was five years past his prime,

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Speaker 11: and his prime wasn't all that good.

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Speaker 2: And then you then.

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Speaker 11: We'll go back to that practice in August.

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Speaker 2: You guys are there.

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Speaker 11: You were calling it on the radio when Lucas Patrick

636
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Speaker 11: couldn't even pick up Tamar Stewart on a simple twist

637
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Speaker 11: and he ended up hitting Joe Burrow for his only

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Speaker 11: quarterback hit.

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Speaker 1: Of the season.

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Speaker 11: I think that frustrated Borrow. I think it frustrated the

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Speaker 11: offensive line, and I think it's got a notion to

642
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 11: the front office that wait a second, we do new help,

643
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Speaker 11: need more help here at guard. And we could have

644
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Speaker 11: told him that six months ago. The next day they

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Speaker 11: brought in Alton Rising for a visit, but he didn't

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Speaker 11: sign for eleven days. I mean, that's the kind of

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Speaker 11: thing is when a guy like that comes in for

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Speaker 11: a visit, you need a guard. You don't let him

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Speaker 11: out of the building, right, And again, this is a

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Speaker 11: reactive franchise, not a proactive franchise. Riser signs and he's

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Speaker 11: on the field when Borrow gets hurt against Jacksonville, and

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Speaker 11: we remember after the game.

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Speaker 2: He was crying.

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Speaker 11: He took blame for that because Eric Armstead was at

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Speaker 11: Burrow's ankles and foot one point three seconds after, you know,

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Speaker 11: after the snap. And I'm sure Burrow's almost like, well,

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Speaker 11: if we had this guy in camp earlier, maybe I

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Speaker 11: don't get injured. Because we look at the offensive line

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Speaker 11: that would have been the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And how they've settled in very successfully right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they're playing really well. I think Borrow's

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Speaker 11: getting rid of the ball a little quicker, which is good.

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Speaker 11: And I just think he's like, man, if we just

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Speaker 11: this so if instead of proactive, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 2: Uh that's something.

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Speaker 11: And one more quick thing I wanted to just put

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Speaker 11: note on is everyone questions his durability and injuries and

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Speaker 11: everything else. I mean, we all agree isies have been

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Speaker 11: cock crash type injuries. There's five quarterbacks that are contemptory.

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Speaker 11: Is pretty much the same age. Kyle Murray's not going

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Speaker 11: to play the rest of this year. He will have

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Speaker 11: missed thirty games in his career. Lamar Jackson twenty eight,

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Speaker 11: Dak Prescott twenty five, Joe Burrow twenty three into twenty two.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, you don't hear much about the other guys,

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Speaker 11: and you hear a lot about Burrow's lack of staying healthy.

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Speaker 11: But again, his things are operations. These guys this would

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Speaker 11: pulled ham strings or whatever else they're doing. So I

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Speaker 11: think people are going to get off of that because

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Speaker 11: Phil Simms was a quarterback, was injured a lot early

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Speaker 11: in his career, and.

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Speaker 2: Then he wasn't.

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Speaker 11: So that's part of it, I think is nonsense. So

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Speaker 11: we'll just see what happens going forward and just try

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Speaker 11: to win each game each week. And seems and he

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Speaker 11: says we're the cookie crumble.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Thank you, John, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we are back here next week talking about the

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Speaker 3: season still being alive and ideally Austin talking about the

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Speaker 3: offensive line continuing their play at a high level. I

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Speaker 3: think it's a good point by John of of how

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Speaker 3: this group has come together and they feels like they've

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Speaker 3: finally found some consistency, some solidarity with playing next to

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Speaker 3: each other, which is a very positive sign. One more

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Speaker 3: phone call and one more break here and now were

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Speaker 3: number one. What's up, Zach, Hey, l ari Al Good.

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Speaker 13: I just wanted to talk on Joe Burrow and you

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Speaker 13: know Tye in the pajama discussion. You know, when you

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Speaker 13: when you make your bed, you gotta lie in it

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Speaker 13: when you want to be one of the top paid quarterbacks.

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Speaker 13: But she deserves all granted, But you know Tom Brady

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Speaker 13: never took top dollar. When you want Jamar Chase to

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Speaker 13: be the number one paid wide receiver, when you want

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Speaker 13: t Higgins to be a top paid wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of money to go around.

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Speaker 13: You have a garbage defense, you have a garbage offensive

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Speaker 13: line because of it. That's what you get. When you

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Speaker 13: make your bed, you gotta lie in it. I'll take

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Speaker 13: your sponsor offline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach, thank you. I appreciate it. I get an

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Speaker 3: extent of that often I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't. They've had plenty of money.

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Speaker 3: They have, but they's that's the counter to it. They've

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Speaker 3: had money, and they've had the draft.

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Speaker 2: Picks, and they have plenty of money next year, and

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Speaker 2: they'll have plenty of money the following year. Correct, that

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Speaker 2: cannot be an excuse for now. For some teams, that

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Speaker 2: is an excuse because of the way that they structure contracts.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals, we've been critical of them. Other people have

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Speaker 2: been critical of them because of, you know, their stubbornness

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Speaker 2: or hardheadedness in the way that they do contracts, think

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Speaker 2: of Trey Hendrickson, Shamar Stewart and others. But what has

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Speaker 2: been a positive of that is that they have very

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Speaker 2: little money in dead cap, which creates flexibility in cap

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Speaker 2: space in future years. They've also added void years to contracts,

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Speaker 2: like with Trey Hendrickson, that can set them up for

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Speaker 2: a cheaper franchise tag and get them with very little

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Speaker 2: dead cap in the future. So while we'd love to

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Speaker 2: kind of pile on the Bengals, and to an extent,

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Speaker 2: he's right, those guys are being paid a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: They take up a chunk of the salary cap that

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Speaker 2: hasn't stopped them from going out and improving their offensive

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Speaker 2: line with Dalton Reisner. They tried again with Lucas Patrick.

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Speaker 2: They drafted two really good ones so far in Amarius

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Speaker 2: Mems and Dylan Fairchild. They rese Mike get Sicki as well.

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Speaker 2: They still had the money to do that. They were

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Speaker 2: able to bring back somemaj p Ryan, who's been a

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Speaker 2: big part of their offense so far this season, and defensively.

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Speaker 2: Their whole plan was, We're gonna figure out these draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Problem is they screwed up the d draft picks have

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Speaker 2: found now miserably again. You feel pretty good about your

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Speaker 2: core on offense. What do you want to evaluate or

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Speaker 2: fix in the offseason. Probably some tackle depth, some offensive

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Speaker 2: line depth, wide receiver three, maybe another running back, everything else.

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Speaker 2: You got sixty five million dollars to spend on your defense.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Do it successfully. We like the money they have. It's

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Speaker 3: just how the decisions are being made that's the question mark,

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Speaker 3: and who's making those decisions.

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Speaker 2: We'll break.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back one final time here and now number one,

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Speaker 3: and then our good friend Charlie Goldsmith will join us

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Speaker 3: to kick off our number two of the Friday Football

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Speaker 3: Friends at ESBN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Since he three to sixty ESBA thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

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Speaker 3: the Friday Football Frenzy. We got Charlie Goldsmith in just

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Speaker 3: a moment or two Austin. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 3: we have an update on Sharon Moore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This is according to Tony Paul, who covers he

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Speaker 2: got two first names. Tony Paul covering Detroit sports for

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Speaker 2: the Detroit News. These are the charges brought against former

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Speaker 2: Michigan coach Sharon Moore. Home invasion in the third degree

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Speaker 2: for allegedly unlawfully entering the victim's residents to commit the

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Speaker 2: crime of stalking and committing that crime while in the residence.

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Speaker 2: It is a felony punishable by up to five years

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Speaker 2: in prison and a two thousand dollars fine. The second

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Speaker 2: charge is stalking for allegedly engaging in a wilful course

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Speaker 2: of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of the victim.

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Speaker 2: It is a misdemeanor published punishable I can't talk today

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Speaker 2: by up to one year in jail in a one

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine. And finally, breaking and entering or entering

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Speaker 2: without breaking for allegedly unlawfully entering the dwelling of a

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Speaker 2: victim with whom mister Moore had a dating relationship. A

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Speaker 2: violation of this statute is the misdemeanor punishable by up

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Speaker 2: to ninety days in jail in a five hundred dollars fine,

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Speaker 2: So looking like five to six years perhaps in jail

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Speaker 2: for sure. Own more think about based off of these

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Speaker 2: charges the last couple of days, you go from the

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Speaker 2: head coach of the University of Michigan with a lucrative

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Speaker 2: what thirteen million dollar buyout, wife, small children at home,

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Speaker 2: to now looking at jail time. Yeah, what a insane,

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Speaker 2: insane story. And not to mention, I mean there's there's

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Speaker 2: also reports that have been confirmed of hush money that

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Speaker 2: was paid and promotions mikes just just awful.

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Speaker 3: It is too like it's it's one of those things

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Speaker 3: like for you, as an Ohio State fan, you'd like

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Speaker 3: to poke fun at, but it's such a serious situation

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Speaker 3: and you fear for the victim and obviously a guy

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Speaker 3: who's clearly not right mentally that tried to take his

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Speaker 3: own life as well. It's just a it's a crazy,

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Speaker 3: crazy situation for a guy who's been very front and

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Speaker 3: center in the media with everything that's gone on Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Over the last couple of years. Yeah, and has not

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Speaker 2: even put the second thought into to controling his life

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Speaker 2: outside of football, which is very sad with where things

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Speaker 2: have gone here. We'll take a break. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: our two next with our guy Charlie Goldsmith to kick

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Speaker 3: I'm fantastic. Let's start with the Bengals and the latest

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Speaker 3: injury updates. We know now T Higgins will not go,

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Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart is doubtful. Were you surprised by either one

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Speaker 3: of those announcements today?

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Speaker 4: I guess Chamar more than Te because T still had

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Speaker 4: room he had to get through the protocol and it's

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Speaker 4: been his second concussion in a short time stand. But

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Speaker 4: even with Shamar, not that surprised considering the fact that

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Speaker 4: he's basically missed most of the season and it's going

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Speaker 4: to get him a week of practice reps under his belt.

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Speaker 4: But now this is going to be another week on

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Speaker 4: offense where you know, Mike Gasiki will probably step into

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Speaker 4: a bigger role you'll see a couple of those backp

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Speaker 4: receivers mixing match and then on the defensive line kind

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Speaker 4: of just status quo what we've been seeing, including a

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Speaker 4: lot of Cedric Johnson steps.

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Speaker 3: Let's start on the offensive side of the ball. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned Mike Gasicki. You look at andre Yoshi vash I

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Speaker 3: know it was nine different Bengals that Cot passes when

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Speaker 3: these two teams faced off just a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: What type of adjustments would you expect Baltimore to make

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Speaker 3: knowing that T Higgins is not going to play in

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Speaker 3: an effort to slow down Joe Burrow in this offense?

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Speaker 9: Did p Higgins?

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Speaker 4: I don't think Higgins played in the last one?

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Speaker 2: Last one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just mean like if I mean yeah, Joe

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Speaker 3: had a good game. Still, how do they How does

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Speaker 3: Baltimore adjust?

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, Baltimore needs.

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Speaker 4: To keep doing what they've been doing, and that's being

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Speaker 4: as successful as they were for the most part for

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Speaker 4: ninety percent of that game, aside from a few splash

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Speaker 4: plays here there of selling out to stop Jamar I

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Speaker 4: think Kyle Hamilton is a particularly impactful player in this

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Speaker 4: style of matchup because he's basically a linebacker who can

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Speaker 4: also double team and then a pinch cover Jamar, so

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Speaker 4: moving him around is really impactful. I think if Sicky

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Speaker 4: should be continue to be a bigger part of the plan,

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Speaker 4: I think that can be a strong matchup advantage for

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Speaker 4: the Bengals against a lot of the defensive backs in

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Speaker 4: Baltimore's back defensive backfield. But other than that, will probably

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Speaker 4: need to run the ball because they don't have a

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Speaker 4: ton of faith intend Lee Or and Charlie Jones stepping

864
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Speaker 4: up as back of receivers in this matchup. Yoshi will

865
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: be at of the mix, but he's had his inconsistencies

866
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: this season, so Baltimore should keep doing what they're doing

867
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: and not keep turning the ball over the Bengals like

868
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: they did two weeks ago.

869
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: The running game for the Bengals, Austin laid this out yesterday.

870
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: When the Bengals run in between the tackles, they are

871
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: extremely extremely successful in getting to the line of scrimmage

872
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 3: and pass the line of scrimmage without contact. How much

873
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: do you credit and how impressed are you with the

874
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: improvements you've seen and the consistency we're seeing now with

875
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: the offensive line for this team it's looked.

876
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: Like a lot more double teams, a lot more duo,

877
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: and then when you run duo, what you're seeing is

878
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 4: kind of a veteran polished from Chase Brown. My understanding

879
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: is dual gives you three options, and there's a sort

880
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 4: of patience and eyes and vision and recognition, especially because

881
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 4: one of those options is bouncing the run outside. Chase

882
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: Brown's handling that very well. The offensive linemen are being

883
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: physical and aggressive and confidence as opposed to tentatives like

884
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: they were earlier in the season on double teams. So

885
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: I can't say enough good things about Chase Brown. The

886
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: offensive line has earned some praise as well. The coaching

887
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: staff has a true track record basically every year over

888
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: the last seven years of finding and improving the run

889
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: scheme over the course of the season, and they've found

890
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: an efficient run scheme that works for them this year

891
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: that also now and then gives around the ability to

892
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: break one off.

893
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: The story of the week has turned into Joe Burrow

894
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: and his thoughts on life football in the Bengals organization. Charlie,

895
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: I have talked to people who were in that room

896
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: when Joe had that press conference, and some of them

897
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: say he didn't seem that abnormal to me. Other people

898
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: were on high alert. What did you make of Joe

899
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Burrow and the way he talked in that press conference

900
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: earlier this week?

901
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 4: Joe Burr is a unique guy, you know. Hecka, I'm

902
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: even reminded because the Bengals did the birthday video for

903
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: Joe this week and they, you know, they had the

904
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: clips where he was talking about his crystals and talking

905
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: about fossils, talking about all that kind of stuff. Burrow

906
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: is a unique guy with a unique personality who often

907
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: is more understated like that when you hear you know

908
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: kind of what his role is being a voice in

909
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: the locker room. He's burs an incredible, incredible ten out

910
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: of ten leader. But we all know he's not the

911
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: ra ra guy. While he has been a message center

912
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: in press conferences before, it's not like he's trying to

913
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: orchestrate some big tone shifts that would you know, that's

914
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: a little forty chess for Joe, even considering what we've

915
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: seen from him the past.

916
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 9: I thought it was just a.

917
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: Burrow's Burrow and he's shared how he feels and he's

918
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: being retrospective. I do believe in the maturation and the

919
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: growth in terms of how he handled some of the

920
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: negative feelings and negative reactions and negative moments. But those

921
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: who are around him just keep saying that this is

922
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: just Joe.

923
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: Do you think there's like any reaction, whether it be

924
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: from the front office or the organization or the players

925
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: in the locker room to see that immediately devolve into

926
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: the storyline of the Bengals should trade him or he's

927
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: gonna pull and Andrew Lucker a Carson Palmer. Do you

928
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: think any of that is paid attention to or has

929
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: an impact in those parts of the organization.

930
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly, when it's all anyone's talking about on

931
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: ESPN on a national level, stuff like that, it gets

932
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 4: onto the radar because of the heat and the intensity

933
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: of the conversation. But I don't think that anything Joe said,

934
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 4: Yester and when they changed anyone's stops in here. I'm

935
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: saying here because I'm in the stadium right now about

936
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: Burrow's future with the Bengals, So you know about it

937
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: when the volume is on that magnitude externally. But I

938
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: don't think they've sensed any change about how Burrow feels

939
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 4: about being.

940
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: With the Bengals on the defensive side of the ball. Charlie,

941
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: we learned earlier in the week Trey Hendrickson would be

942
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: going on ir with surgery. Do you believe this is

943
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: the last we've ever seen of Trey Hendrickson as a

944
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengal.

945
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: I do? And what was It felt like he needed

946
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: one or two more years before the rest of the

947
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: defensive line and the plan to rebuild the defensive line

948
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: was ready to live without Trey. And so what you're

949
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 4: stuck in now is this interstitial period where Miles Murphy,

950
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: even though this is the end of year three, still

951
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: isn't quite there yet to take the torch and the

952
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: baton as a number one defensive end. They hoped, and

953
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: they planned that Stuart would be further along at this

954
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: point to take the baton and take the torch at

955
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: defensive end. But obviously he's not there at that point either.

956
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: So that leaves us where we're at is. You know,

957
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: while I think this was if these will be trade

958
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: final days as a Bengal, it'll now be one or

959
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: two more years of saying, man, you miss Trey Henderson,

960
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 4: you miss Trey Henderson, you miss Tray Henderson. The fact

961
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: that they weren't proactive about rebuilding this defense gives them

962
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: more limited resources to continue to invest in the defense

963
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: looking at the long term future. They kept Trey hoping

964
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: that he could, you know, spark enough splash planes to

965
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: make this defense as competitive it could be over the

966
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: last eight gms of the year. Obviously Hull have played

967
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: none of those, so they got none of the short

968
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: term value, they got none of the long term value.

969
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: And it'll be the end of a fantastic career. And well,

970
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be as good as Jesse Gates,

971
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, in the future. I think we're going to

972
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: be over the next couple of years, the man you

973
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: can feel not having tre Hendrickson on this defense.

974
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: How much does it how much more difficult does it

975
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: make if we started this conversation about Shamar Stewart, how

976
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: much difficult has become now because you just don't know

977
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: what you have in Shamar Stewart, and you've got Joseph

978
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: Osai who's now in a contract year, and there are

979
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: just so many questions, especially upfront on defense. How hard

980
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: is it to evaluate not knowing truly what you have

981
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: in Stuart.

982
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: Each guys, each guy has their own question like Osai

983
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: looking at his long term future with the Bengals. That

984
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: guy talked to him two weeks ago about his season,

985
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: and he's still talking about the race injury that he

986
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: suffered as a rookie. You know, Osai's risk and his

987
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: overall durability makes them a harder guy to invest in

988
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: at the price he's probably earned getting this off season.

989
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: The injury presents them risk with that Males Murphy. You

990
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: like where he's at, you like how he's trending, but

991
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: now you're gonna have to make a decision on his

992
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: fifty year option this offseason. And has he played I

993
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 4: don't know what those are now at a seventeen million

994
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: dollars or whatever it is level, you know, we haven't

995
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: quite seen that yet. Shamar Stewart when he was on

996
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: the field, was I think the least or a most

997
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: negatively impactful player, you know, like the worst war on

998
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: the team on a person that basis was Shamar. But

999
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: based on what you've bet on him, you've got to

1000
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: get him snaps in some capacity, But are those snaps

1001
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: as the number one and number two or number three?

1002
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: The entire defensive end room is unsettled and unproven, despite

1003
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: the premium and investments they've made in those spots, and

1004
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: it'll be in the off season. Hey, what are you

1005
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: willing to live with? Conversation? And will it be you're

1006
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: willing to live with? Shamar Stewart is a starter versus

1007
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: Barrett Carter is the starter versus you know, going you know,

1008
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: cheap at slot corner or something like that. Like, I

1009
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: have a really hard time stack those things up because

1010
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: of how rocky it's been in some places and how

1011
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 4: little information we have in others.

1012
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: Talk about the tight end position of opposing offenses. We

1013
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: know that opposing offensive had success and tight end. I

1014
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: know you dove a little bit deeper in into it

1015
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: this week and realized it's not so much just every down.

1016
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: This team has found success more in what man demand

1017
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: defense against opposing tight ends, but they are still getting

1018
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 3: gassed against zone.

1019
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: The Bengals don't have a tight end problem. What they

1020
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: have is a play action problem. If you look at

1021
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: the fact on how unknown passing downs, the Bengals aren't

1022
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: unbelievable against tight ends. I went through third downs specifically,

1023
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: they've allowed I believe like two or three total catches

1024
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: all year in man coverage against tight ends, and the

1025
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 4: zone hasn't been that bad either. What it is is

1026
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: these early downs, especially early downs with teams in twelve personnel,

1027
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: where Demetrius Knight and Derek Carter just go all in

1028
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: to stop the run and then there goes a tight

1029
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: end wide open behind him. And what's interesting stat to

1030
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: me was the Bengals are the clear leader in the

1031
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: NFL in yards after the catch on play action this season.

1032
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: To me, that's a waving red flag. These guys are

1033
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: wide open on play action passes, you know or today

1034
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 4: like it could be a running back, it could be

1035
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: a receiver, it could be a kicker running over the

1036
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: middle of the field. That's how much space the Bengals

1037
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: are leaving based on these linebackers instincts and vision. And

1038
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 4: I think I was willing to use the word radar.

1039
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: It's a nutshell of the adversity and the challenges these

1040
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: rookie linebackers have been struggling with.

1041
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Charlie.

1042
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: Before we switch gears to the reds for a few minutes,

1043
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: it's it'll be the second time in sixteen days these

1044
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: teams play each other. You know the opponent so well

1045
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: because they're an AFC North opponent. You've just seen them.

1046
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: What does a game like Sunday, in your opinion, come

1047
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: down to for the Bengals to get a win.

1048
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: It's going to come down to the same thing the

1049
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving game came down to, which is it wasn't Burrow,

1050
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 4: it was can the defense on third down create three, two, four,

1051
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: four splash negative impact plays. That's what they missed in Buffalo,

1052
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: you know when you look at the drop picks by

1053
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: Battle and Turner and then I identified a miss fumble

1054
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: opportunity for Joseph Osai, Like, that's what they came down

1055
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: to in Buffalo. And what it came down to when

1056
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: Baltimore was especially on those third downs, they made those plays.

1057
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: They got that turnover back in their own tear in Baltimore.

1058
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 4: And you know, with Baltimore up against its own end zone,

1059
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: the exotic third downlooks created opportunities where free runners got

1060
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 4: sacked or forced Lamart to throw the ball away. Can

1061
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: you give me two, three, four five of those plays?

1062
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: And then Joe Burr dropped thirty to thirty five points,

1063
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 4: then you've got a chance.

1064
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: Switching gears to the Reds, Charlie, what did you learn

1065
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: about the Reds when you were at winter meetings in Orlando.

1066
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: Well, you had the focus turned to Schwarber internally and

1067
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: of course externally with us in our coverage as well,

1068
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: and then when they missed out Schore, we turned your

1069
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 4: focus and they turned their focus back to one I've

1070
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 4: been calling the regularly schedule programming. I keep making this point,

1071
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 4: but I think it's illustrated. Like I have a very

1072
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 4: similar feeling right now about the rest of the top

1073
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: season as I had about last offseason, Like how they

1074
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: found a value bi low opportunity with Austin Hayes and

1075
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: made that fit into their payroll and then Gavin Luck

1076
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: and we can debate that trade, but unexpectedly became available

1077
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 4: and they found an opportunity to get them pretty quickly

1078
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: without without much competition on the trade market because La

1079
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Speaker 4: was trying to do right by him. And now maybe

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00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: LA won that trade, but at the time he felt

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00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: good about.

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Speaker 9: That for the Reds.

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Speaker 4: So that's the world I see them living in. There's

1084
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of talk about trade, but you're

1085
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: probably gonna hear me say this fifteen times between now

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00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: and spring training. The Reds don't have much surplus anywhere

1087
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: to trade in the whole organization. They feel like they

1088
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: have just enough starting pitching. The one thing would be

1089
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: and I've heard zero trade rumors involving Brady Singer, but

1090
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: they've to sek with the moves before they did it

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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: leading into twenty twenty three. Do you trade someone like Singer,

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: spend that twelve million dollars and also get a big

1093
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: leaguer in return for Singer? You're probably losing overall talent

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00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: in that deal, just like the Royals loss overall talent

1095
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 4: and the Jonathanabia Brady Singer deal. But aside from that,

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00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: this team doesn't have enough frotation depths. The only other

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Speaker 4: area of surplus I see is these guys in Triple

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00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 4: A with big league experience. So you know, if you've

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Speaker 4: got a take her for Blake Dunn or Ces or

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00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: maybe even Will Benson, but I guess he's a starter

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: on this team right now, or Tyler Callahan, I guess

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Speaker 4: that's a surplus. And then I think they have a

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: surplus of low A starting pitching, but no one really

1104
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: cares about that. And maybe there's another prospector two names

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00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 4: I won't name that you can make a case for,

1106
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: but I'm generally low on those guys and don't think

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00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: they get you an impact guy in return. So I

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00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 4: don't see this being a strong team from a trade perspective.

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Speaker 4: And now again we're right back where he started.

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Speaker 2: So let's say that you know everything you just said

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: is true, how do they expect to improve on a

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00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: year ago if the plan is basically the same as

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00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 4: Then I asked Nick Carral directly that question. That's my question.

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 4: That's the existential question. That's the hurdle that you'll always

1116
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: find yourself facing when you decide that sustainability is the

1117
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: route you're going to go down, as opposed to making

1118
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: a push for one season like twenty twenty like the

1119
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: Reads did, and then having to live with the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two season as a response to that because you

1121
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: pushed your chips in earlier. They're not going to do that.

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00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: So they're not going to have off seasons where it

1123
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: feels like the upside of the roster changes substantially, unless

1124
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: there would have been an exception like Schwerber. So Nick

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 4: Kral said, oh well, And what I don't want to

1126
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: go unrecognized is I agree with Nick that Steer will

1127
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: be better, McClain will be better, Ellie'll be more consistent

1128
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Speaker 4: that south Stewart will make a big difference in this lineup.

1129
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 4: I agree with that, which was his answer to that question.

1130
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: But what I don't agree with is that that'll be enough.

1131
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 4: But part of that, too, is out of the front

1132
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: offices control, because they can only work with the payroll

1133
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: they have. From a trade perspective, they could do more,

1134
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: but they've decided to not go down that all in

1135
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: trade route. So they're banking on like they've all, like

1136
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: they always have, drafting and developing. And while I like

1137
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: a lot of those development stories individually, collectively it's a

1138
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: team that's ceiling still hasn't gotten much high.

1139
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: What is like the leg that they're standing on to

1140
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: think that that that that stuff will improve, Like obviously

1141
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: you don't know if somebody's gonna get get hurt or

1142
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but like, is there anything specifically they're

1143
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: pointing to that gives them that confidence.

1144
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 4: A part of it is that this is just the

1145
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: payroll they have from ownerships, So you know, they're not

1146
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: you know, they're smart people. They know that they'd love

1147
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 4: to go out and sign Ryan or Hearn right now,

1148
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: but that's just not the reality they live in that

1149
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: makes it their only windows to make an aggressive trade

1150
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 4: to try to improve the team. But like I said,

1151
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: they've decided that they need to maintain the long view

1152
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: when it comes to prospect, which again is something we

1153
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: can debate and unpack over the next decade. I'll say

1154
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: it again, I believe stear is gonna have a strong season.

1155
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 4: I believe Matt's gonna have a strong season. I believe

1156
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: Marte isn't going to have that come back to Earth

1157
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: season and hepe build on what he did last year

1158
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: because of how much to move to the outfield help

1159
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: him helped him.

1160
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Speaker 2: I believe a lot of that.

1161
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Speaker 4: But what I have a hard time really seeing is

1162
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 4: true all star ceiling players outside of Ellie and the rotation,

1163
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: and that's where this team is stuck at eighty three

1164
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: to eighty seven wins.

1165
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: Are you surprised at all, Charlie, because I know that

1166
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: the way they're operating. Are you surprised they've been as

1167
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: open as they have been this offseason by various different

1168
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: accounts on how they're operating. So I feel like with

1169
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: some things they keep it close to the vest, and

1170
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: then other things they are open about it and at

1171
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: all it does is create this conversation we're having today

1172
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: and around this team. Are you surprised at the way

1173
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: they've they've communicated these things.

1174
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 4: This has been the first off season during my time

1175
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: covering the team when Nick Krause has flat out said

1176
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: this is what I expect our budget to be in

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00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. And he didn't put a number on that,

1178
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: But you know, I do the math. I've got my spreadsheets,

1179
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: like one hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty million around

1180
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: that range, give or takes. There's a bit with biots

1181
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 4: and stuff that's vague, but that's the first time he's

1182
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: done this, which to me comes across as a reminder

1183
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: that unless you completely scrap the financial model of how

1184
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: they've done things, which they could have gotten closer to

1185
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: excuse me, which they would have been more willing to

1186
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: do from an ownership level for Schwarber when you looked

1187
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: at how deferrals would have been a part of that,

1188
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 4: and trading off salaries would have been a part of that,

1189
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: and maybe the ticket sales would have given pay a

1190
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: little bit of a bump. But all that, you know,

1191
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 4: the more I learned about that, the less I understand

1192
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: this is this is what we have to work with.

1193
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: Don't expect us to be something that we can't be.

1194
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: Basically is what Nick Krawl said when he said, this

1195
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: is our payroll for twenty twenty six. So Red Ownership's

1196
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: philosophy towards payroll is something that lingers over every decision

1197
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: they make, and it came up in a very very

1198
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 4: bright way when the Reds didn't land Cashwarber.

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Speaker 2: My last question, I don't know if you have the

1200
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: answer to this or not, but has there been any

1201
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: clarification on whether or not Ellie de la Cruz is

1202
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: going to be able to play in the World Baseball Classic.

1203
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: Here's what I can guarantee you. I can guarantee you

1204
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: that the Reds wouldn't stop Ellie de la Cruz from

1205
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: playing in the World Baseball Classic. I've talked to Nick Krawl.

1206
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: I talked to him a lot about this. In twenty

1207
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: twenty three. When Ellie or excuse me not, when Ellie

1208
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 4: going a lot of guys on the Reds. We're playing

1209
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: in the World Baseball Classes and that's what these guys

1210
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: believe in, is letting their players do stuff like that. Now,

1211
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: what's the on on here. Typically, I don't really know.

1212
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: That wasn't something as much. I was chafing down in

1213
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 4: Orlando at the winter meetings. But the Reds aren't going

1214
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: to aren't going they wouldn't you know? Take away an

1215
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: opportunity from the twenty sixth man on the roster, let alone,

1216
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: Ellie de.

1217
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: Lacruz, Charlie, Man, you're awesome, whether it's Red's, Bengals or

1218
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: anything else. What's the easiest way folks can follow along

1219
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: with you?

1220
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 4: Charlie, shut a forward at Fox nineteen and on substack

1221
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: and be at the game on Sunday, so look forward

1222
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: to that one.

1223
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: Stay warm, Charlie. We appreciate your time. Man, have a

1224
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: great weekend.

1225
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie. H Thanks guys, Charlie Goldsmith. He's ready for

1226
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: anything we throw out him. He's a beast, he's a monster,

1227
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: He's fantastic. We appreciate him. I think if you're a

1228
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: smart fan of these two teams, you pay very close

1229
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: attention to what Charlie says. I agree. We'll take your

1230
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: talkbacks next as we roll on. The Friday Football frenzy

1231
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 2: continues next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen

1232
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: Hey, Alexa, is that time for talkbacks?

1234
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: With that microphone and record a message?

1235
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh hunter of bistol Toe, I'd be.

1236
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: Remissal to not keep a list, so you better not

1237
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: be naughty. That's kind of all.

1238
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Is that time for talkbacks? It's the most wonderful time.

1239
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 8: Of the show.

1240
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Austin and forty, will you guide this very slow today

1241
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: and try not to sabotage it?

1242
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: Come on, then, let's go. Let's go down.

1243
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 15: Hmmm Friday football friends, we talked to Lord the Unhappy,

1244
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 15: Joe Burrow Bengals twenty seven, Ravens twenty one.

1245
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 16: Okay, hey, this no on the ground, Tony in Austin.

1246
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 16: As Joe Burrow said, if we're gonna do this, we

1247
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 16: gotta have fun with it. No more talking about sports.

1248
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 16: Those are only Debbie Downers. I got a real question

1249
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 16: for you guys. What's the most memorable Christmas gift you've

1250
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 16: ever gotten? Thank you and happy weekend gentlemen.

1251
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: Man. I don't know.

1252
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: I really have to put some thought into that, because

1253
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I've had people in my life that

1254
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: are excellent gift givers throughout the course of my life.

1255
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: I'll have to think about that one. As we get

1256
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: that might be a topic late next week. My parents

1257
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: gave me a car once. That's hard to beat.

1258
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 7: Guy he played what.

1259
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: The guy don't right? They'll tell you all about it from.

1260
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 17: The day.

1261
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: Where you think.

1262
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 5: Please wires.

1263
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, unbelievable, man, unbelievable.

1264
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 15: Doug Gott live here, Heyduk.

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 18: Sports Radio, tyrec dot Com Studios. Love for your feedback

1266
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 18: on talkbacks. I was thinking about adding some other segments

1267
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 18: to my show, like I was thinking about adding a

1268
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 18: let It Marinate and.

1269
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: Quick hits.

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Speaker 18: Any feedback on that, Tony, I may need to borrow

1271
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 18: your wife mart Meredith for my talkback segment for Let

1272
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 18: It Marinate.

1273
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: Let me know I can. I can grab her. She's

1274
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: she's probably available.

1275
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: Hello, this is one James Robert.

1276
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: Yes, let me make this point crystal clear.

1277
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: If you ain't man and you.

1278
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 19: Wear pajamas, too bad, you got your matching p J set.

1279
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 19: You have no test doctor in your body what soever? Man,

1280
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 19: we wear our skimmies or we go fair butt naked.

1281
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: My wife a few.

1282
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 19: Years ago tried to get the whole family to get

1283
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 19: magic pajamas. I said, hell, Mel went out shout in

1284
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 19: my gun drag a beer.

1285
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: William James says he sleeps in his skivvyes William James

1286
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: Robert and it's another edition. He left three talkbacks today,

1287
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: Tony Haudy, What up?

1288
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 20: Boys?

1289
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 8: Matt in seven?

1290
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: Been a minute? Hook you boys are well?

1291
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 4: I just got a quick fantasy question. Man, I need

1292
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 4: a I need a starting wide receiver.

1293
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 21: And I don't know who to go with.

1294
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 8: It's either Za Flowers, Jacoby Myers, or t Higgins.

1295
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: It's not Tea. I would probably at this point goes

1296
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: a Flowers. Yeah.

1297
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 12: Can someone please make a phone call to Matt Patricia

1298
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 12: on behalf of the Cincinnati Bengals for next year? I mean,

1299
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 12: some NFL team's gonna call him, so why not just

1300
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 12: bringing to Cincinnati before someone else takes them?

1301
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: Is there an NFL job right now better than Ohio

1302
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: State's defensive coordinator? I don't know, By the way, I

1303
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: don't think so. Our guy MAVs in seven Jim Knowles,

1304
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: by the way, went to Tennessee MAVs and seven is appropriate? Austin.

1305
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: That's how many games under five hundred the MAVs are?

1306
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1307
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: Seven? That out there, Austin. I couldn't agree with you more.

1308
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: Four inches is a lot. Yeah, yeah, it is PP fifteen,

1309
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: Addie Beach MWG.

1310
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 23: I know there's been a lot of speculation on Joe

1311
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 23: Burrow's press conference, a lot on these airways, socials, just

1312
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 23: on and on and on.

1313
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what it was.

1314
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 23: That was Joe Burrow before our very eyes becoming one

1315
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 23: of us, and he didn't realize it was that dark

1316
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 23: of a place.

1317
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way to you might want to check

1318
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: on your favorite GM over, Jake Sweeney. He was a

1319
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo over the weekend, had our drive home. He convinced himself,

1320
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: they can still make the playoffs. They can. He's right.

1321
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: Was Sloan in Buffalo as well? Yes, he was.

1322
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: My guy over at Jake swhen he was in Buffalo,

1323
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: And I even asked him, like, did you plan this

1324
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: trip before the season or during? Let me ask you

1325
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 3: the Bengals had four wins, I would go, you would

1326
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: still go, yes, absolutely, even if you hadn't like determined

1327
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: before the season.

1328
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: That was good.

1329
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: Like I see, I get like, hey, before the year,

1330
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: let's pick a place, let's go. You would just like

1331
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: still during the season, be like, you know what, screw it,

1332
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: let's go to Buffalo.

1333
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 18: Uh.

1334
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: During the season less likely Okay, but if I had

1335
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: planned it out then yeah, I would go. Okay, Sir.

1336
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 24: Tony and Austin Ray from Cleves with what Joe Burrow

1337
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 24: had to say, and we've had a little more time

1338
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 24: to think about what that might mean if he is

1339
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 24: really saying he wants out or he's going to retire.

1340
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 24: Could this franchise ever ever recover with from that?

1341
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 10: No?

1342
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 24: No, don't you think there would be such a mass

1343
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 24: It would be done. In effect, this franchise is basically.

1344
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: Call it correct, that's it. That's what I said yesterday

1345
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: is we would be closer to the end of the

1346
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: Bengals than anything than at any point in the history

1347
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: of the France. You you called the tonight tonight.

1348
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 17: I am a Muskies fan, but I am also a

1349
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 17: Huskies fan.

1350
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 8: Let's go Yukon f s M.

1351
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: I can figure out what that means and a Husky.

1352
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 17: Tony yesterday conversation about Burrow, I think it goes back

1353
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 17: to last year when Burrow talked about feeling like he

1354
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 17: had to be perfect every time, and I think that

1355
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 17: contributes to his talk and I agree with Tony that

1356
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 17: he's just over it.

1357
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think we we are diving deep into

1358
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: this right now. I just think it's at the very

1359
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: core of it. He's a guy that's frustrated, the guy

1360
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: that doesn't want to lose, and they're losing Awestin.

1361
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 25: I'm not sure how far back did archives go, but

1362
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 25: if you go back to the Reds nineteen seventy two,

1363
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 25: when Johnny Bench hit the home run in the ninth

1364
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 25: and then the wild pitch scored George Foster as well,

1365
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 25: you will hear al Michael's at his best when he

1366
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 25: was much much younger.

1367
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Let's see if this is it right here? Hold on,

1368
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: see if I can find it. Trying to press play

1369
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: but it's not working. Yeah, listen, I I'm not saying

1370
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 2: I like how Michael's nineteen seventy three.

1371
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 12: Bottom of the eighth.

1372
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 14: I think Johnny Bench leads off for the Reds the

1373
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 14: first pick crab deep.

1374
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, this, wasn't you or I saying now Michael's stinks. Correct,

1375
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 3: it's us saying he wasn't good on that call last night.

1376
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: And it's been a couple of times this year. It's

1377
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 3: been talked about about nineteen seventy All right, Jim, it'll.

1378
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: Be Johnny Bench. We'll lead off the fifth inning. Joe, Yeah,

1379
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: it is amazing. I sometimes forget these archives that we

1380
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: have just at my fingertips. But yeah, no, it's al Michaels.

1381
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: I have such high standards for him because he's been

1382
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: incredible after incredible moment over the course of me growing up.

1383
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's tough to It's like Peyton and his

1384
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: last year, like you set a standard for himself, tough

1385
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: to watch.

1386
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 12: To defend al Michaels.

1387
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 26: A lot of their games have been cheeks and it's

1388
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 26: like a flag fest every game.

1389
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. Hello, Hello, this is having

1390
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: and even Dale. Tony.

1391
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 27: I'm a I'm a PJ guy too. I have a

1392
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 27: matching seasonal sets I wear. I've got one for summer,

1393
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 27: I've got one for spring, fall and winter. I'm wearing

1394
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 27: my winter ones right now because well it's winter.

1395
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: Nice.

1396
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 27: We share something in common, Tony, two PJ guys.

1397
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, well said much better days for al Michaels.

1398
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 8: There it is.

1399
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: Well one and a bench, the bench changing the en.

1400
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: That's all saying. Oh, I just remembered I gotta tell

1401
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: you a story about Roberto Clemente.

1402
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 18: Oh, Joe Burrow was just having a bad birthday day.

1403
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 28: I remember when I turned thirty, I got close to

1404
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 28: turning thirty, I got real depressed.

1405
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: I think he's just depressed.

1406
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 28: He hasn't accomplished all the goals that he had as

1407
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 28: far as winning super Bowls.

1408
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: It's just a bad birthday day.

1409
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: Okay, he's going to be Okay, that's yeah. I hope

1410
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 2: that that's great. I'm with you. Yeah, right, how.

1411
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 29: That's up to you.

1412
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 20: Marrh changed the future, Marv. You gotta go tell the Bengals, Marph,

1413
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 20: tell them to change. Man, gotta make them change, Marvin. Yeah,

1414
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 20: that's all the people will be destroying.

1415
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 30: Marvin.

1416
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta change.

1417
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 31: Changed the Bangles.

1418
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: Gosh, if you know, you know, that's one of my

1419
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: favorite talkbacks I've ever got. Right there, incredible job. I

1420
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: was waiting for it to DJ Lance McAllister.

1421
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 10: Yes, I turned it.

1422
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 21: Down after that last phone call. I'm sure you guys

1423
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 21: are pushing back on it already. But the whole excuse that,

1424
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 21: you know, Burrow gets paid so much money and Jamar

1425
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 21: and t the Bengals have what four guys that are

1426
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 21: making twenty five plus million a year. I'm sure you

1427
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 21: guys have said it before you'll say it again. Uh,

1428
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 21: there are teams in the league that are paying eight

1429
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 21: nine such guys. That's not an excuse. They should be

1430
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 21: able to build a competent defense though, correct to Mundo,

1431
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 21: and some of those teams include paying top dollar for

1432
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 21: a quarterback. So that is not the Burrow's paycheck is

1433
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 21: not the reason. Burrow himself is not the reason. His

1434
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 21: play is not the reason. The man plays damn near

1435
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 21: perfect and when he's not, he doesn't deserve the criticism preach.

1436
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 21: This team should be able to build around him, and

1437
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 21: they should take the opportunity to building around him.

1438
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: And that's what's so frustrating.

1439
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 32: And a long sober lining about the Joe Burrows press

1440
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 32: conference was he's inspiring men to talk about and open

1441
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 32: up about their mental health.

1442
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna do just that. I'm gonna open up

1443
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: to you all about mine.

1444
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 32: I've got some personal professional stuff going on too, like

1445
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 32: most of us, I've got ib sc ed, broke, my hairs,

1446
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 32: falling out audio looking at you, and professionally, my work

1447
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 32: line to.

1448
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: Me is my regular wife. Damn he's going through Is

1449
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: he talking about me going through it?

1450
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 8: Now?

1451
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 33: Isn't it?

1452
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 29: Four and nine after back to back ninety eight seasons

1453
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,959
Speaker 29: and three straight years but more than likely missing the playoffs.

1454
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 29: Can't help but get a little bit nostalgic about the

1455
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 29: twenty eleven to twenty fifteen run. Five straight years of

1456
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 29: winning football, nine ten, eleven, ten, and twelve win seasons

1457
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 29: and just some really fun defenses. Man, a lot of

1458
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 29: fun players. January exits the side. Man that was a

1459
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 29: fun era of football. Can't wait to be back to

1460
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 29: being in the playoffs?

1461
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 8: Who does?

1462
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: But you know what's different about them than this era

1463
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: of football? And I know this sounds stupid considering they

1464
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: haven't been to the playoffs. Is you never felt like

1465
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: they could win the Super Bowl because of the quarterback? Yeah?

1466
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Tony and Audie, this is Jack Jack Frost. Yes, Audie,

1467
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: I heard you talking to Sloania orlier said you're gonna

1468
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: be down at the Bengals games day and the cold

1469
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: weather really didn't bother you. Well, you know what, it

1470
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me either, So I hope to see you

1471
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: down here. Just look for me. I'll be wearing the

1472
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: long white shirt and in my depends, I'll see you soon.

1473
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: Just don't be nipping at my nose there, Jack Man. Hey,

1474
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: it's Todd from Cheryville.

1475
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 33: I totally get Joe's frustration. I've been a part of

1476
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 33: multiple organizations where my department was going gangbusters and the

1477
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 33: rest of the company wasn't pulling their weight and we

1478
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 33: were holding everybody.

1479
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: Else up, and it sucks.

1480
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 23: I get the frustration.

1481
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 33: I'm sure anybody with the job feels the pain of.

1482
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: Joe burrow Man. It is I think.

1483
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: I think it was one of the more relatable moments

1484
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: that Joe was talking about that a lot of people

1485
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: can relate to it different aspects of their life.

1486
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: I met Todd once on the He was on a

1487
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: job too, he was working good Man.

1488
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 14: For anyone who missed the interview with Charlie Goldsmith, here's

1489
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 14: the cliff notes and Charlie Goldsmith is joining us. Hey, Charlie,

1490
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 14: tell us something about the Reds and Bengals and thanks

1491
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 14: for joining us, Charlie. Yep, did you hear that we

1492
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 14: are doomed Bengals. Doomed Reds screwed Bengals defense. We're gonna

1493
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,879
Speaker 14: roll it out just like we did this year, same defense,

1494
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 14: same thing, twenty twenty six, Reds half one hundred and

1495
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 14: twenty million dollars payroll for twenty five.

1496
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: Let's keep it there for twenty six.

1497
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 14: Who cares about the eight hundred million dollars in TV

1498
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 14: revenue that every MLB team shares.

1499
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: Man, Somebody tweeted at this, tweeted somebody tweeted this. I'm

1500
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: really getting pissed off. Somebody tweeted this at me earlier

1501
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: this week. The Reds can, but don't. The Bengals do

1502
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: but can't. That's a tough total. That's deep, man, Tony Austin.

1503
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: It's he in year.

1504
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 31: This year.

1505
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 26: For Christmas, I'll knock out my two front teeth. If

1506
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 26: Bob sells the team and the Bengals get three free

1507
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 26: agents on defense minimum, That's the only way I'll do it.

1508
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 28: Have a good Christmas you, okay, side Listen that Joe

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 28: Burrow's presser like three times over a couple of days, Okay,

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 28: And I can see why he is annoyed with the

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01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 28: media in this town because everything he does is under

1512
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 28: a microscope. And just just let the man be whatever

1513
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 28: he wants to feel, you know, quit pushing on him.

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jim.

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01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 34: Joe Burrow is injury from agree or disagree Joe Burrow, Like,

1516
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 34: why was Joe Flacco able to stay up right and

1517
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 34: not get hurt? Why's Jake Brownie stayed up right and

1518
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 34: not got hurt? Did the front office and GM did

1519
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 34: they like do a good job when they were quarterback

1520
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 34: but not when Burrow was?

1521
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, like, stay healthy.

1522
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 34: Quit putting yourself in danger, and stop turning the ball

1523
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 34: over in giant situations. But he's still the best thing.

1524
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: I love him so much about. What makes him who

1525
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: he is, though, is taking those chances and putting himself.

1526
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: I simply have one question. Are they pajamas? That's all

1527
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: I gotta know, Thank you.

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: I used to have a pair of foot pajamas, and

1529
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: every time I wore the mayor, my wife would look

1530
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 3: at me with the most disgusting look on her face,

1531
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: as she should. But at times I'm like, man, how.

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 35: Rafting incompetence is why we're here? Not Joe Burrow's paycheck,

1533
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 35: not Jamar Chase's paycheck. They have done everything and more

1534
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 35: that has been asked of them. We got the t

1535
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 35: move version of Sean McVay and Zach Taylor and he

1536
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 35: cannot coach.

1537
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: We've seen enough.

1538
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 35: Don't waste any more of these valuable years go, Bengals.

1539
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: Who there? Did you know all the coaches hired in

1540
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen cycle, only two of them are still employed. Wow,

1541
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: Matt Leafloor and Zach Taylor? You ever used Timo? Ever

1542
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: bought anything off? I did? Yeah?

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 27: I have.

1544
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: We're actually waiting on a package from Etsy today.

1545
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 22: Well yeah, hey there, tony, acquiring minds would like to know,

1546
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 22: do your pajamas have a career dumber? Please let the

1547
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 22: fans know.

1548
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: You got a col rally on them things. All right,

1549
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: we're done right.

1550
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: One segment, Yeah, probably probably probably a football in the Natty.

1551
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: We'll just play it by year on ESPN fifteen thirty,

1552
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. The Friday Football Frenzy fall.

1553
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 6: In the Natty brunch you in part by Bud Light

1554
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 6: and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen point thirty, the

1555
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,919
Speaker 6: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1556
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: All right, it's the Friday Football Frenzy. Two quick segments here,

1557
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. One quick thing. Austin

1558
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 3: from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Adam Schefter TJ. Watt underwent surgery

1559
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: yesterday to repairy partially collapsed lung that he suffered on Wednesday.

1560
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 3: He is expected to be discharged today. Not definite that

1561
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: he'll be out on Monday night, but it is leaning

1562
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: to be unlikely that he'll play on Monday night. So

1563
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 3: that is the latest out of Pittsburgh regarding t J.

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Speaker 8: Watt.

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 2: That is that's crazy, Yeah, insane. The fact that he

1566
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: needed surgery is is this kind of reminds me of

1567
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: Toarrod Taylor a couple of years ago. Yeah, before and

1568
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: I did want to pass this along, we were talking

1569
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: about how cold it's going to be for the Bengals

1570
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: game on Sunday. Jay Morrison of Sports Illustrator wrote a

1571
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: piece that this game could be one of the five

1572
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: coldest ever played in Cincinnati. We obviously all know about

1573
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: the Freezer Bowl. You might remember the two thousand season

1574
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: when Peter Warick had an eighty two yard punk return

1575
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: against the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's one of the more famous

1576
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: games in terms of like the photos that have come

1577
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: from that game. But yeah, I mean, this is on

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01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: pace to be one of the five coldest games layed

1579
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. And in those five coldest games in Cincinnati

1580
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: in franchise history, the Bengals are five and zero according

1581
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: to Jay Morrison, and in the ten games when it's

1582
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: twenty degrees or colder, they're eight and two in those games. Wow,

1583
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: So let's go, Uh, what is it that?

1584
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 5: What is it that?

1585
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Elsa said? The cold never bothered, Never bothered me anyway?

1586
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: Are you gonna put a bowl hour two next? ESPN

1587
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 6: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

1589
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official Home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: From the Johnson Heating Temps, Star Weatherton Killing. Time to

1591
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: finish up our two Friday Football Frenzy. Here's what we

1592
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: got coming out. Tom Gallerner, pick them, Bob Man, Jean

1593
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 2: Quick Kits.

1594
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 3: One final hour to go on this Friday afternoon stay

1595
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: with us. That starts next on the Home of the Bengals,

1596
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 10: Thank You.

1598
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 20: If you Love to Travel?

1599
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show brought to you

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Bengals, Welcome back.

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01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 3: Let's get our number three started on the Friday Football

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01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 3: Frenzy thanks to Penn Station with our guy from FC Cincinnati,

1610
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 3: the voice of the Orange Blue, Tom Galader, is joining

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 3: us today.

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 2: Tommy G. What's going on?

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 6: Wow?

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01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 30: Well, well, well, Tony, Tony, Tony, it has been a minute.

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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 30: It is to hear from you boys. Happy December. Some

1616
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 30: of these kids out here of a snow day. I

1617
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 30: think we could spend a whole fifteen twenty minutes whatever

1618
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,799
Speaker 30: our normal segment is just talking about how it Gregious,

1619
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 30: I grew up in Cleveland.

1620
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: Gregious, I'm just going Syracuse. Yep.

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01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 30: You know how many inches of snow it took for

1622
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 30: them to have a snow day when I was a

1623
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 30: student of the excuse the answer is there was no

1624
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 30: snow days. I mean, we had like twenty four inches

1625
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 30: of snow in twenty four hours.

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01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: You went up there both ways, Yeah, you had to

1627
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: walk barefoot up hill both ways. Yes, this is what

1628
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 2: I'm hollering.

1629
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 5: And here we are, my kids and their friends within

1630
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 5: the CPS district are all sitting it.

1631
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean it came on sledding.

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 30: There's not a snow it one time down the hill

1633
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 30: and you're gonna clear all the snow off.

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure what happened over there, but whatever,

1635
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, almost go on.

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: Last time, last time we spoke, Shador Sanders was like

1637
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 3: a fifth string quarterback.

1638
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: Now he's like the best quarterback in the.

1639
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 30: League the year. I can't believe we haven't done like

1640
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 30: four shows just on that act. You got your jersey, guys,

1641
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 30: of course I'm sitting here with it on. No, I

1642
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 30: got clarification that I mean, my friend got me on

1643
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 30: a real big technicality. And I'm sure many of our

1644
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 30: listeners who tuned in every Friday have been waiting for.

1645
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: The follow up on this. Ye, right, did I get

1646
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: my jersey?

1647
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,440
Speaker 30: My guy, My guy, Brian got me in a technicality

1648
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 30: that he had to be selected like within a certain pick.

1649
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 30: Come on, Brian, so be better. Maybe I mean the

1650
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 30: Christmas a couple of weeks away. Maybe maybe I'm better.

1651
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 30: I'm just overreacting. And it will show up sometime, you know,

1652
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 30: from Saint Nick.

1653
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 3: Between now and then, let's talk O Engine Blue FC

1654
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: Cincinnati the season itself, Tommy, that the biggest question I have.

1655
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 3: You look at how the season ended and and uh

1656
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 3: what this team was able to accomplish. And there was

1657
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 3: a lot of changes I remember early on in the season.

1658
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: But let's let's dive right into it. When you look

1659
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: back now on the season that was for f C Cincinnati,

1660
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: is that season viewed as a success?

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Speaker 30: Well, I mean, I think anything shy of lifting MLES Cup,

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 30: you know last weekend is you know not a full

1663
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 30: blown on check it off as a success, right because

1664
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 30: that's the ultimate goal. So if you're not lifting MLS

1665
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 30: Cup at the end of the season, then there's gonna

1666
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 30: be some natural disappointment. And I think that's certainly the case,

1667
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 30: you know, with the group and management and everybody else,

1668
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 30: because they fell short of that ultimate goal and they

1669
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 30: lost the team that ended up lifting the cup. So

1670
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 30: you know, Miami proved to be the hottest and the

1671
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 30: best team down the home stretch of the season, and

1672
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 30: for my money, were the rightful champions and and came

1673
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 30: in and you know, walked walked the orange and blue

1674
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 30: out of the building, you know, which added a little

1675
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 30: sting to it. But look, I think the team may

1676
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 30: probably offs for a four straight year. Mean that's a fact, right.

1677
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 30: They made it out of the first round, but in

1678
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 30: the end didn't win the MLS Cup and and that's

1679
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 30: where they want to be. So I think success in

1680
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 30: many ways, growth of players. You had a great story

1681
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 30: with a guy like Nick Kaglin who's come back Player

1682
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 30: of the Year. So I think there's a lot of positives.

1683
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 30: But in the end, if you're looking at check that

1684
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 30: box of a successful season, I think you have to

1685
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 30: win MLS Cup. So, you know, short answer, no, but

1686
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 30: still a lot to be proud of in this twenty

1687
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 30: twenty five campaign.

1688
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 3: What are the things that have happened this year that

1689
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 3: give you the most promise and hope moving forward with

1690
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: this team?

1691
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 30: I think you start with the continued development of your

1692
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 30: goalkeeper in Roman Celtano.

1693
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 2: You know, he proves over and over again to be

1694
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: so reliable back there.

1695
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 30: You know, let's look at the spine of the team,

1696
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 30: and that's what often general managers head coaches talk about,

1697
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 30: you know, right up the middle of the pitch, you know,

1698
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 30: what are you looking at as far as blocking guys

1699
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 30: in and how you develop your squad, And you start

1700
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 30: with your goalkeeper, and for a position that was so

1701
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 30: inconsistent those first three years in Major League soccer, now

1702
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 30: you have Roman who has been, you know, the poster

1703
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 30: child of consistency.

1704
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: He started to work his way into the national team

1705
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,480
Speaker 2: a little bit. I hope that that continues.

1706
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 30: Maybe he gets an opportunity to be one of the

1707
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 30: guys that's involved of the three goalkeepers for the World

1708
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 30: Cup over the summer. But I think that you're going

1709
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 30: to start to see Roman cell and Tino the all

1710
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 30: star goalkeeper if he can keep his performances up. And

1711
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 30: I thought that that he had a lot of really

1712
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 30: good performances this year, and sometimes when the scores were lopsided,

1713
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 30: you know, it wasn't necessarily his fault.

1714
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: There were some breakdowns in front of him.

1715
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 30: But they have a massive positive in Miles Robinson and

1716
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 30: obvious he's been awarded with a new contract. So again

1717
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 30: you talk about that spine and protecting your goalkeeper, Well,

1718
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 30: now you have you know, Miles on a contract that will.

1719
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: Lock him in long term.

1720
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 30: Here in Cincinnati had a designated player salary, So that's

1721
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 30: a great thing. And Miles had a very good year

1722
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 30: and he's involved in the national team as well, and

1723
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 30: I think very much will be a part of the

1724
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 30: World Cup roster and hopefully, you know, gets his opportunity

1725
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 30: to be involved and make a World Cup debut here

1726
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 30: in the United States after missing out of twenty twenty

1727
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 30: two due to injury. So I think that that's a

1728
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 30: big positive. Pavel Buka continue to develop. You know, it's

1729
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 30: a frustrating season for being a Wolbedo, but you have

1730
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 30: those guys in the mid I mean, how about Sammy

1731
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 30: Ghedy and what he did in stepping in and being

1732
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 30: a guy that they brought in really just to acclimate

1733
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 30: himself with Cincinnati with the team and maybe pick up

1734
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 30: some minutes.

1735
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 5: But Obie was out and they needed him, and he

1736
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 5: stepped in and was fantastic down the home threat.

1737
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 30: So I think people should be really really excited about

1738
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 30: what Sammy Guidey did. And then up top of you

1739
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 30: have Kevin Dank, And I think if Kevin Dank was

1740
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 30: on with us right now, he would tell you that

1741
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 30: he was disappointed in his overall season, but you know,

1742
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 30: he provided productivity for Cincinnati with a vander obviously being

1743
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 30: an MVP candidate there and another guy who's locked in

1744
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 30: long term, so we can't overlook that. But you know,

1745
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 30: Kevin Dank steps in and you know, fills one of

1746
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 30: those striker roles, and now I think the question is

1747
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 30: will be alongside him as that other striker. But I

1748
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 30: think when you look at all those pieces of the

1749
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 30: puzzle and making four straight playoff appearances, you have to

1750
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 30: feel really good about this team.

1751
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 3: Other side of the equation, what are one or two

1752
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 3: of the things that this team needs to improve upon

1753
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 3: between now and next offseason or next season.

1754
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean, I think overall the gold production can

1755
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 30: be better, and that they certainly saw some of that

1756
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 30: with Brenner involved, and you know, the fans really would

1757
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 30: love to see Brenner back. I don't know that there

1758
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 30: is a roster mechanism that will make that work, you know,

1759
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 30: especially with what you know hud An Essay is looking

1760
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 30: for in return for him. If if that season, Sanny

1761
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 30: were to pick up the purchase option, at least as

1762
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 30: far as I understand it, he would be a designated player.

1763
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 30: They don't have a DP slot available at the moment

1764
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 30: with the Vander Kevin Dank and now Miles Robinson, you know,

1765
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 30: fulfilling those those roles. So you know, as I see

1766
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 30: things right now, unless there's some change with Major League

1767
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 30: Soccer or you know, some change with those three guys,

1768
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 30: then I don't see any way that you can bring

1769
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 30: Brenner back. But I thought that you know, Brenner was

1770
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 30: really productive in that role and you know, kind of

1771
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 30: bookended his time with that c Cincinnati if this is it,

1772
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 30: you know, kind of took some of those sour tastes

1773
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 30: out of out of folks mouths that they had when

1774
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 30: he left. Left, you know, kind of o under the

1775
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 30: best terms and came back and helped the team at

1776
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 30: the end of the season and certainly in the playoffs.

1777
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 30: So people will always be grateful for that and remember

1778
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 30: his performance against Columbus.

1779
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 2: But the question is, you know who replaces him there?

1780
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 30: You know, Lucas Engle, what a warrior he was this year,

1781
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 30: and if you're Middlesborough, you're thrilled with how he contributed

1782
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 30: to the club, how he stepped in and helped. I

1783
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 30: think the question then becomes, how do you replace him?

1784
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 30: You know, he saw a lot of minutes at center back.

1785
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 30: He played a lot at left wing back, and you're

1786
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 30: gonna need somebody to replace him because his loan is up,

1787
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 30: and you know, if you're paying attention earlier this week

1788
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 30: the club thanked him for his time and his one

1789
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 30: has expired and no return to Middlesborough and you know,

1790
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 30: see if he gets inserted right with their club or

1791
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 30: if they move him along to somewhere else, but it appears.

1792
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 2: That he won't be back.

1793
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 30: So I think there's some of these questions of where

1794
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 30: can the team improve, and you know, talking about the

1795
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 30: offensive production, certainly, you know, filling that slot. Whomever that's

1796
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 30: going could be alongside Kevin Dank is that second striker.

1797
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 30: Assuming this system is going to stay as we've seen

1798
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 30: under patent Union, then that's gonna be a big question.

1799
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: How do you get more goals out of them?

1800
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 30: Because at times the defense is really really good and

1801
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 30: you just need to see a little more offensive production

1802
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 30: and that'll turn some of those draws to wins and

1803
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 30: some of those losses to draws, which obviously helped you

1804
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 30: out in your point total at the end of the year.

1805
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: Finally, I don't think we even need to ask this, Tommy,

1806
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 3: but this as an organization has been a very aggressive

1807
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 3: organization from their approach. They are active in going out

1808
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 3: and making this team better all the time, whether that's

1809
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 3: in season or out of season. You look no further

1810
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 3: than what they were able to do last year when

1811
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 3: they move on from a former MLS MVP and then

1812
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: replace and you're right back in the competitive conversation for

1813
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:50,440
Speaker 3: an MLS Cup. So from the organization standpoint, how aggressive

1814
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 3: do you foresee them being again? Because that has been

1815
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 3: the norm with FC Cincinnati. It's been a model for

1816
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 3: other organizations to watch them. Man, they're not satisfied with

1817
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 3: just going all in for one year. They're building for

1818
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: the future, but they're constantly looking to add the next piece.

1819
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 3: How aggressive do you foresee this front office being again?

1820
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 27: Yeah?

1821
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 30: I can't imagine that it's changing in any ways. You know,

1822
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 30: it's been very quiet, I would say around the team

1823
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 30: since the season ended. And Chris Albright has been fortunate

1824
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 30: that Carl Lenner and the ownership group has you know,

1825
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 30: provided for him the resources to go out and last

1826
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 30: all season, bring in a Vander to replace Luco Acosta,

1827
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 30: and to spend you know, more on a Vander, you know,

1828
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 30: more than double on Evander. What he got in return

1829
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 30: for selling Lucco, and that's on the heels of going

1830
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 30: out and spending the sixteen million to get Kevin Dank in.

1831
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: So I think that.

1832
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 30: They'll be very aggressive again. You know, I mentioned it's

1833
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 30: been quiet. There's really haven't been any rumors yet. It's

1834
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 30: December twelfth, I mean, last year, right after the loss.

1835
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 30: That's kind of when the Kevin dank rumors started to circulate,

1836
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 30: you know. But certainly I would imagine that in the

1837
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 30: coming weeks we'll we'll start to hear some of the

1838
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 30: rumors and see what they're working on, if not you know,

1839
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 30: heurope signings that are firm in the next couple of weeks,

1840
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 30: because the reality is that from what four weeks, maybe

1841
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 30: in a couple of days like it, we're month away

1842
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 30: from the team or probably back, which is insane, and

1843
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 30: firing it up again in February. So yeah, I think

1844
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 30: that there will be, you know, certainly some very aggressive moves.

1845
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 30: But Chris is very smart about it with his staff

1846
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 30: and evaluating situation, making sure that they're not overspending, and

1847
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 30: you know, I think that he has quite a few

1848
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 30: you know, high contracts on you know, the roster at

1849
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 30: the moment, So he's gonna have to be, you know,

1850
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 30: the usual magician that he is in making all the

1851
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 30: numbers fit.

1852
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: But to his credit, that's what he's done for the

1853
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 2: last four years.

1854
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 30: So I imagine that that he will have the resources

1855
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 30: he needs to go out and improve the team.

1856
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: But he doesn't have a days in any player spot.

1857
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 30: So that's where you see the sixteen million dollar transfer

1858
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 30: fee right for a guy like Kevin Dinka.

1859
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,959
Speaker 2: Uh, there won't be one of those because that would trigger.

1860
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 30: Another designated player slot, so that he's gonna have to

1861
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 30: be smart about how you know, he slots guys into

1862
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 30: the roster, and you know, maybe there's some trades of

1863
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 30: the current assets that bring in some allocation money so

1864
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 30: that he can bring in other folks on deals that

1865
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 30: that makes sense for the club. But you know, I'm

1866
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 30: excited to hear and kind of find out over the

1867
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 30: couple of weeks how this team will be improved.

1868
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch because of the aggressive nature

1869
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 3: they take and more importantly, Tommy, I can't wait to

1870
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 3: be talking again soon. It's a quick off season for

1871
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 3: f C Cincinnati, which means we get to talk much

1872
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 3: more in the near future. Until then, Tommy, I hope

1873
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 3: you have a great holiday season.

1874
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: I hope you guys do the exact same. I hope

1875
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Santa Claus means you all something nice. Maybe bring me

1876
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: mester door Jersey.

1877
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 30: We'll see. But it's always a pleasure. I appreciate you

1878
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 30: guys having me on each and every Friday. You know,

1879
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 30: we find a way despite where all all of us are,

1880
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 30: you know, and I'm grateful that we're still doing it.

1881
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 30: So that's that's pretty awesome, right, So you guys enjoyed

1882
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 30: the holidays.

1883
01:34:58,439 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 2: Keep those lights up.

1884
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 30: I don't know you're you don't come down to the

1885
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 30: house till about February, right when we start the season again.

1886
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. Yeah, am I wrong, Austin see

1887
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: you know I'm right. I don't know. I don't. They

1888
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 2: stay up for a while. They've been up for a while.

1889
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 2: They stay up for a while. Just send me some

1890
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: pictures from the Pike Family Christmas party me next year.

1891
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: I'll make the invite.

1892
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 3: Deal, you know, we'll see. Deal, you see, guys, deal,

1893
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 3: you're the man, Tom. Yes, that is Tom Gallader, the

1894
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 3: voice of FC Cincinnati. Wrapping up the FC Cincinnati season.

1895
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 3: We're just getting started. Our number three plenty more next

1896
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Well, let's go Bo. Well,

1897
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 3: Bob man Gene is next. We just talked to Tommy

1898
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 3: g But Bob, Bob, Bob man Gin I'll come up next.

1899
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: Right now, we got to make some picks. It's the

1900
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. We've

1901
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 3: got some well, one college football game, a couple of

1902
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 3: local college hoops games in the NFL slate to pick.

1903
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Let's start Austin with what happens in Maryland over the weekend.

1904
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 3: It is the standalone game, and rightfully so because as

1905
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 3: all eyes of this great country, we'll be on at

1906
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: three o'clock on Saturday. Army versus Navy. Yeah, Navy is

1907
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: a six point favorite. Now many wonder Austin is Navy

1908
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 3: overlooking Army and thinking about the Liberty Bowl already?

1909
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: Probably not. Ken Nea Montalolo is not walking through that door.

1910
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,799
Speaker 2: They don't think about the Bearcats at all. They spend

1911
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 2: all season thinking about Army. Just so we're clear, well,

1912
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: just so, where av cares more about beating Army than

1913
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 2: they care about any damned bowl game? But now Army

1914
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 2: also cares more about beating Navy. There's no butts, right,

1915
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 2: there's no butts, So Army cares more about beating Navy.

1916
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: They care about beating each other.

1917
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 3: Okay, both these teams in the American Athletic Conference. Army

1918
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 3: is four and four, Navy is seven and one. Navy

1919
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 3: is laying six. I'll take the six with the midshipman Austin.

1920
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 2: All right, whatever you have to give a pick, I

1921
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 2: got Maybe that just goes back and forthright, I was

1922
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: trying to fix something in the law. I kind of

1923
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 2: forgot what we were doing for me. He just said,

1924
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 2: all right, I got Navy. Who you got? I got Navy? Okay,

1925
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: my goodness.

1926
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 3: Two college basketball games tonight, both featuring the Muskies. We'll

1927
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 3: get to the Muskies in a second. But the former

1928
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: Musketeer two time head coach Sean Miller is on the

1929
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: road at Yukon discussing, here's how bad things are for

1930
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 3: Texas right now. They're getting fourteen and a half on

1931
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 3: the road to Dan Hurley's bunch.

1932
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this. I like Dan Hurley.

1933
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: He's a Dangle fan.

1934
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: I hope he beat Sean Miller by thirty four tonight,

1935
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 3: give me the Huskies.

1936
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 2: You're taking Yukon. I'm taking Yukon, all right. Fourteen and

1937
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: a half is a lot. I know it's up there

1938
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 2: in snowy Yukon, a home of the Huskies. Oh, but

1939
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: I'll take Texas to cover fourteen and a half. Austin

1940
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: says they stink and I'm not a fan of Sean Miller,

1941
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't blow out Yukon. Okay,

1942
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 2: other games to get blown out by Yukon.

1943
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 3: Other game in the Big East tonight is the Xavier Musketeers,

1944
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 3: first time and action since the Crosstown shootout. They take

1945
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: on Missouri State. The Bears from Missouri State. Xavier's laying

1946
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: seventeen and a half in this. Xavier probably the hottest

1947
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 3: team in the country right now. They are playing well

1948
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 3: under Richard Patino. I'll take Xavier laying the points. What

1949
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 3: I would do though, if there was a player prop

1950
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 3: for Trey Carroll total points, I would take the under

1951
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 3: because that's just what happens.

1952
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to do that anymore? I don't think

1953
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 2: in Ohio where allow that anymore. But I would take

1954
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: his under a crook and a criminal. Long time since

1955
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: Xavior's played. It has been a bit of a hangover

1956
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: game from the shootout. Xavier wins comfortably, but they don't

1957
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 2: win by more than seventeen and a half. I'll take

1958
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: Missouri State to cover. This smells like a twelve point

1959
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 2: win to me for the Bears. You say no, no, no, no, no,

1960
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: or Xavier, Yeah, Xavier's the Missouri State covers. Missouri State covers. Yes, right, So.

1961
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 3: Here's what happens on the college basketball Saturday s late

1962
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 3: because college basketball lines don't come out until really the

1963
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 3: day of the game, but they do have the BPI predictions,

1964
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 3: and those are pretty.

1965
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: Much basketball power in that that's right.

1966
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 3: They're pretty much a point or two off of what

1967
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 3: the spread actually ends up. So I'm just taking the

1968
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 3: BPI for these games for tomorrow, all inviting except one

1969
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 3: involving some local ball clubs Indiana. The Hoosiers Austin traveled

1970
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 3: to Ropperena. Mark Pope made a statement the other night.

1971
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 3: He's benching starters, He's not playing guys for the second half.

1972
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 3: He's not mister nice guy anymore. Kentucky's favored by two

1973
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 3: and a half at Ropperena against the Hoosiers of Indiana.

1974
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 3: Give me the wildcatch from Kentucky in this one to

1975
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 3: get a nice win for Mark.

1976
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Pope, a get back game, a get right game for

1977
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: Coach Pope and the Cats. I'll take Kentucky at home

1978
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: over Indiana. I think I can't pick Indiana ever again. Yeah,

1979
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 2: until Ohio State beats them again. Well said, Well said,

1980
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 2: it is number Any of the Indiana basketball players that

1981
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 2: get hurt running onto the court, hope.

1982
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: To Doug Bike who once got hurt running on the

1983
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 3: football field at the Sugar Bowl.

1984
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me that story this morning, and I

1985
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 2: think at some point we need to have like a

1986
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 2: full that needs to be a whole segment. Yeah, maybe

1987
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 2: we get Doug on the phone. Yeah, I would like that.

1988
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Yep, good, good, good call. There's really one, maybe two

1989
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 3: marquee games tomorrow. One of those marquee games is number

1990
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 3: one in the country. Arizona going to number twelve Alabama.

1991
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 3: Alabama has scheduled incredibly hard. Arizona has been a machine

1992
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 3: this year. Let's say Alabama is getting two and a

1993
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 3: half at home. What would you say to that, Bama?

1994
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 3: I would say, no chance. Arizona smokes them. Nothing but

1995
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 3: the Tide. I like natoates in this one. I like

1996
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 3: Alabama as a home dog. At some point, Arizona's got

1997
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 3: to take a step back. Alabama has been challenged more

1998
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 3: than Arizona this year. I'll take the Crimson Tide Memphis.

1999
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Hardaway still coaches that team, Austin does he actually?

2000
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 9: Yes?

2001
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: Wow, Petty Hardaway still coaches them. They've not been great

2002
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 3: so far this year. I'll tell you who has Pat Kelsey.

2003
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 3: They've been good. Memphis is four and four on the year.

2004
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: They've lost to old mess UNLV Purdue in wake Forest.

2005
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Louisville's gonna lay fourteen and a half. Is that too

2006
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 3: many points for Penny? Nope, you got the vill I

2007
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 3: got the vill I'll take twenty four and a half.

2008
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 3: I'll take the Tigers. Give me Memphis. What about the

2009
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 3: Norse at Bellerman? Yeah, Norse are favored by let's say

2010
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 3: five and a half business like for Northern Kentucky University.

2011
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 3: This is just a short trip over to Bellerman. They'll

2012
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 3: whoop their ass and come back to Highland Heights. Give

2013
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 3: me the Norse death Texas NKU basketball. I'll take the

2014
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: Norse most time. For the calendar flip.

2015
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: January February, Norse after after a week shout out my guy,

2016
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 2: Darren Horne.

2017
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 3: By the way, after a week and a few days

2018
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: off for the Cincinnati Bearcats, no return to action on

2019
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,839
Speaker 3: what's supposed to be a neutral site game somehow in Atlanta,

2020
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 3: or they'll take on Georgia. Georgia is a very good

2021
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 3: basketball team. Georgia is gonna lay four and a half

2022
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 3: in this one.

2023
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm sick. I have a disease.

2024
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's it's it's a

2025
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 3: little bit of whod delusion. But it's mixed with the Bearcats.

2026
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 3: All this time in between makes me think that maybe

2027
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 3: they got better over a week and a day off

2028
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 3: of not playing basketball. I really don't know. But I

2029
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to sleep this weekend. I wouldn't be

2030
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 3: able to take myself seriously if I stood up here

2031
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 3: and picked Georgia today. Give me the Bearcats to cover

2032
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 3: and win them win the game out right. I've been

2033
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 3: searching for solutions. I've been searching for reasons. I've been

2034
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 3: trying to log you're out. Why does Wes Miller still

2035
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 3: have a job Georgia comfortably. I'll take the Dogs to cover. Oh,

2036
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:48,440
Speaker 3: if Georgia wins comfortably, things are gonna get very, very uncomfortable.

2037
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: How are they not already? They are? Okay, they'll get

2038
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 2: a lot more uncomfortable. Let's move. James ain't gonna save you.

2039
01:42:54,760 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Let's move to the National Football League. The Browns, do

2040
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: you want to make you so? We're good? To move

2041
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 2: on to the National Football League? Yea, I Sid said,

2042
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 2: what was that dramatic pause? I don't know, thinking about

2043
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: if things go bad Saturday, what that looks like going forward,

2044
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 2: and how long this basketball season may go. Let's talk NFL.

2045
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 2: Let's talk Browns, Let's talk Bears. Oh boy, Shador Sanders,

2046
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 2: does he have a little magic? They're gonna get a

2047
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: touchdown and a half, seven and a half points Soldier Field.

2048
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm looking at the weather. It's gonna be

2049
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 2: eleven degrees. Chador don't care perfect timing the Bears.

2050
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 3: They come up short on the road against Green Bay,

2051
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 3: and then after this game against the Browns Austin they

2052
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 3: take on the Packers again. Is this one of those

2053
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 3: classic look ahead games where I still think the Bears win,

2054
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 3: but the Browns cover the number. I think the Browns

2055
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 3: keep this close enough to cover, but the Bears win.

2056
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 2: I really want to say this is a rock fight.

2057
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 2: I want to say this is you know, everybody's just

2058
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 2: trying to run the ball and inside because it's going

2059
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 2: to be below zero when it comes to the windshill

2060
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 2: in Chicago. But I think the Bears are a much

2061
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 2: better football team than the Cleveland Brownsky. I think mime time,

2062
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Oh Shoudaddy should don't oh Shaudoor Sanders you know he

2063
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 2: was wasn't he born and raised in Florida? With the

2064
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: this is cold for oh played in Colorado? Doesn't matter.

2065
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 2: They didn't play this late in the year. Okay, they

2066
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 2: didn't play often past the month of December, right, so

2067
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 2: too cold for shoudor Okay. I got the Bears covering

2068
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 2: seven and a half.

2069
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 3: It would officially be the end if Kansas City doesn't

2070
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 3: cover five and a half at home on Sunday against

2071
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 3: the Chargers. Temperatures in this one again under twenty degrees.

2072
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 3: Herbert's still dealing with the hand injury. It was a clunky,

2073
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 3: clunky game against the Philadelphia Eagles. Very impressive that the

2074
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 3: Chargers found a way to win. Do the Chiefs cover

2075
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 3: five and a half and keep their slim hopes of

2076
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 3: the playoffs lives.

2077
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Yes, they do. Chiefs win this game easily. You'd be

2078
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 2: You're insane if you think I'm picking Jim Harball this week. Yeah.

2079
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 3: This to me, This to me is Kansas City's holding

2080
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 3: on by a thread, and they're going to continue to

2081
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 3: hold on. What about the Bills going to Foxborough and

2082
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 3: being favored by a point and a half over the

2083
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 3: eleven and two Patriots. I don't think whether it's as

2084
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 3: big of a factor in this game. Drake May already

2085
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 3: went to Buffalo and won. Does Josh Allen return the

2086
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:23,719
Speaker 3: favor this weekend?

2087
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. The Patriots win at home, they clinched

2088
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 2: the AFC East, and the biggest story on Monday is

2089
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 2: is there a new dynasty in town?

2090
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 3: Were opposite of each other. I think Josh Allen and

2091
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 3: that running game in Buffalo carry the load. I think

2092
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 3: they get it going. Obviously, getting King Kate back help

2093
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 3: this team immensely.

2094
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 2: Now.

2095
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 3: I know they're not playing the Bengals linebacking corps again,

2096
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 3: but I think King Kid opens up this offense even more.

2097
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 3: I think the Bills get a very big win on

2098
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 3: the road in Foxborough, some big late slate or afternoon slates.

2099
01:45:59,000 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 2: I just say.

2100
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 3: The Packers go on the road to another eleven and

2101
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 3: two team. That's the crazy thing about this, Austin. There

2102
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 3: are two eleven and two teams playing at home this weekend,

2103
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 3: and they're both underdogs. Green Bay's a two and a

2104
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 3: half point favorite on the road against Denver, and I

2105
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 3: like the two and a half.

2106
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Is it still Toyotathon? I don't know.

2107
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 3: I'll take green Bay and Jordan Love to go on

2108
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 3: the road and get a win. I'm still not sold

2109
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 3: on Denver. I do think green Bay is a legitimate contender.

2110
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 3: I'll take the Packers on the road. I'm right there

2111
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 3: with you. Green Bay covers that two and a half.

2112
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 3: They put bo Nicks in a blender. Jeff Hafley continues

2113
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 3: to audition for Cincinnati Bengals next head coach.

2114
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: I got it, Okay, I got the pack Okay. What

2115
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: about this Rams Lions playing for their playoff live Still

2116
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 2: they're still on the outside looking in, and they're gonna

2117
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 2: go to Sofi Stadium in Inglewood, California. Weather won't be

2118
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: a factor. No, it's in a Dome and the Rams

2119
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 2: are laying six. That to me just screams, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2120
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 2: that's too much. But as we talked about earlier in

2121
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: the week, Lions are dealing with a lot of different

2122
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: injuries with that team right now, especially on the defensive

2123
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: side of the ball, Stafford has played at a very

2124
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 2: high level. I still think the Lions keep this close enough.

2125
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if they win the game out right,

2126
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: but I do think they cover six points. You know what,

2127
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the Lions could win

2128
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: this game. Backs up against the wall, Dan Campbell coach.

2129
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: Teams tend to respond in those moments, even though it's

2130
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 2: out West, even though they're banged up, even though it's

2131
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: against the old friend, Matt Stafford. These two teams have

2132
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 2: played each other a lot in the regular season and

2133
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: in the postseason over the last couple of years. They

2134
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 2: know each other. I'll take the Lion. This is, of course,

2135
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: both quarterbacks going back to the original squads too. Forgot

2136
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 2: about that. Stafford back with the Lions, golf, back with

2137
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: the Rams. Here we go. Let's go to Monday night

2138
01:47:55,280 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 2: football offtime. The Dolphins and the Stillers Stiller Pittsburgh is

2139
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 2: a three point favorite at home. I know who as

2140
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 2: Cincinnati fans were rooting for in this game. With that

2141
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 2: being said, the floor is yours first. Do the Steelers

2142
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 2: win and if so, do they cover? Frigid conditions in

2143
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh always makes you want to pick against the warm

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Speaker 2: weather Miami Dolphins. But these Dolphins are a much, much,

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01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 2: much better team. I'm struggling to speak, much better team

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01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 2: than we saw early on in the season, and I

2147
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 2: still don't believe in Pittsburgh's defense. Give me Mike McDaniel

2148
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins to go in there and upset the

2149
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers and keep hope alive for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Steelers just for the chance that

2151
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 3: if I'm I'm right, then I win on the Pickham sheet,

2152
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 3: and if I'm wrong, then I'm happy either way.

2153
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 2: It's a happy hedge for me. The TJ.

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01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,600
Speaker 3: Watt situation is worrisome for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but that

2155
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 3: defense hasn't been great all season long. My question is,

2156
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 3: does Aaron Rodgers still have any magic left in the tank.

2157
01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 3: The Dolphins have played well, They've also played some easy competition.

2158
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,719
Speaker 3: I like Pittsburgh to win this one at home Monday

2159
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 3: night football. I think they get it done. And finally, Austin,

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01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 3: should we make this our game of the week. Should

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01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 3: we make it our cheesey spread of the week?

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01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 2: You know what, that's a good idea.

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01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 31: I like that.

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01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 2: You're going with that, So you want me to go

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01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 2: cheese easy spread. That's it.

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Speaker 3: That horn right there tells you it's time for our

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01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 3: wind Shulers cheezy spread of the weekend. And it just

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01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 3: so happens to be the game between the Ravens and

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01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: the Bengals. The Bengals are a home dog.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this.

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01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 3: If you're going down to the game, Austin, it's gonna

2172
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 3: be cold, right. You want to know how to warm

2173
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 3: yourself up. Win Shulers, little pepper Jack, throw a little

2174
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 3: cheese spread at your tailgate. I'll warm your right up.

2175
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 3: Because they pair well with anything that makes sense. They

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01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 3: pair well with anything. It's not a tailgate, it's not

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01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 3: a holiday get together. It's not fun if wind Schulers

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01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 3: isn't involved. And if you're going down to tailgate once

2179
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 3: you the Holy Grail where you probably just watched Moe

2180
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 3: and myself and Ken Brew deliver magic for a couple hours,

2181
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 3: and then you're heading out. You're like, Nope, I got

2182
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 3: to stop by the car and grab the wind shoulders. Honey,

2183
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 3: you'll even Ravens Bengals. Bengals are a home dog there

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01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 3: it is. Get me out of that.

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01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 2: Are you gonna make a pick?

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01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm taking the Bengals. Man Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase,

2187
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 3: I think they have enough. I am not sold on

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01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: what this Ravens team is right now. I think the

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01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 3: Bengals punch him in the mouth early, and I think

2190
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 3: you see an upset and a dejected Lamar Jackson. I

2191
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 3: think things start to implode on the sideline for the

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01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, and the Bengals could put the final steak

2193
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 3: in Harball's heart on Sunday. Give me the Bengals to win,

2194
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,480
Speaker 3: give me them to cover the number home dog. Disrespectful.

2195
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 3: There's been a bunch of nonsinles nonsense. Let me try

2196
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 3: this restart three two one.

2197
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 2: There's been a bunch of nonsensical hogwash spewed out of

2198
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,879
Speaker 2: the mouths of the national media this week. The Bengals

2199
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 2: destroy the Ravens and make a point and We're talking

2200
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 2: Monday about the playoff hopes right here on the Monday

2201
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 2: midday quarterback called Tony Pikes, Monday Nightday quarterback, even though

2202
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 2: he's not here for the whole show.

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01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: If that happens on Monday, yeah, we are the I

2204
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 3: might wear dolphins gear. Oh into the show.

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01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 2: You got some fish gear? I could find some, Okay,

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01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 2: all right.

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01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 3: Bob Manginoll join us next from the University of Cincinnati.

2208
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: Bob's not listening to this SEC and Novercare. Dad just

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01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 2: picked the Steelers. He's fine.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to Bob Manjean and then we'll do a

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01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 3: quick hits next hour three the Friday Football Frenzy. You're

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01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 3: listening right here on the home of the Bengals, ESPN

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01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back at the Friday

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Speaker 3: Football Frendsy ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We're roll

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01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 3: along here and our number three spending a few minutes

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01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 3: here with our guy from the University of Cincinnati and

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01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 3: Nova Care. It is Bob Manjean joining us right now.

2218
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 3: In between polar vortexas is what I'm told, in between

2219
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 3: a cold front that's going to sweep through negative wind

2220
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 3: chills on Sunday afternoon. We still get our guy Bob

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01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 3: manjeing today though, Bob, what's up? Are you staying warm?

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01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 8: Tony?

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01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 31: I'm staying warm. That's why I'm a basketball trader, baby,

2224
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 31: environmentally controlled system, so I don't have to stand outside

2225
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,839
Speaker 31: in negative weather anymore.

2226
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 2: We're in that official transition phage phase. The high school

2227
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 2: football season in Ohio officially ended last week, which means, now,

2228
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 2: I know basketball has been going on, but a lot

2229
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 2: of those basketball players that may be on the football

2230
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 2: team are now transitioning to basketball. Or it doesn't have

2231
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: to be football to basketball. It can be just transitioning

2232
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 2: from one sport to another. And I think sometimes we

2233
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: get caught in a sense, Bob, of being athletes, of saying, oh, well, okay, well,

2234
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 2: if they're playing that sport, they're in shape, they're good

2235
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 2: to go. Let's just move the next one.

2236
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 3: In all systems, go talk a little bit about what

2237
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 3: goes into that transition and maybe what to look out for.

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 31: Well, again, your transitioning sports and different sports require different

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01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 31: loan mechanics, different forces that are applied to your body,

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Speaker 31: and it takes an athlete about three weeks to really

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01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 31: get that transition done. So and we'll use the football

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01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 31: to basketball concept for these kids that are that are

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01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 31: making that transition right now, and that the loads different

2244
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 31: because basketball, obviously, you know, you've got both horizontal and

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01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,719
Speaker 31: vertical loads being applied to your body, whereas in football,

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01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 31: your primary load is going to be in a in

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01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 31: a linear you know, forward backward direction. So the bottom

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 31: line is the fact that you you know, the athletes

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01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 31: need to have time to make the transition just from

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01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 31: the load standpoint, and give the kids an opportunity to

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01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 31: build up and climatization usually takes a about ten days,

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01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 31: so you want to give the kids an opportunity to

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01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 31: you know, to get that time period to adjust. The

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01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 31: other thing is that you also have cardiovascular loads that

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Speaker 31: you have to account for because obviously, playing football is

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 31: one loan mechanic on your cardiovaster system. Basketball is a

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01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 31: different one. Track and field is a different one. Wrestling

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01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 31: is different. You know a lot of the linemen oftentimes

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01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,919
Speaker 31: go into wrestling season, you know heavyweight or just under heavyweight.

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Speaker 31: That's a different loan mechanic than just practice in football.

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01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 31: Playing football, So the kids need to really take an

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01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 31: opportunity to take the time get acclimatized golf from a

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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 31: load standpoint as well as a cardiovasters standpoint.

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01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 8: Also warm up.

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 31: I think a lot of times these young kids don't

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01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 31: warm up sufficiently. You know, we have our kids in

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01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 31: here an hour before practice and doing everything from and

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01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 31: you know, getting heated up in the whirlpool, getting heated

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01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 31: up in masauna, going through stretching, going through using you know,

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01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 31: massage guns, vibrating foam rollers, you know, foam rollers, getting stretched.

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01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 31: You really need to have is the weather gets colder

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01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 31: and you need more time to get loose and get

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01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 31: ready to practice. And too many times, especially the guys

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 31: who practice right after school, you know, get out of school,

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01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 31: change and then get right on a mat or go

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01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 31: right into a court, and they need to take their

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01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 31: time getting their adjustment to the sport, but also making

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01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 31: sure that they're warming up properly.

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Speaker 2: That would be my thing.

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Speaker 3: I remember in high school, like Saturday practices or Saturday

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01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 3: morning and you're coming in and it's ten degrees outside

2282
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 3: and you're freezing cold, and you're hitting the gym and

2283
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 3: you're going I know, there's not a lot of high

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01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 3: schools that have the ability to have the hot tub

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01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 3: or the massage guns or things like that. So at

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01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 3: the high school level, when you're coming in and it

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01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 3: is cold, what can you do at that level to

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01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 3: allow your body the proper time to warm up before

2289
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 3: you go right into that action.

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01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 31: You just need to make sure that you take the

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01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 31: time to do some extra stretching. Okay, get some extra

2292
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 31: stretching in. Make sure that you're you know, getting on

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01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 31: a roller. I mean every school has rollers or even

2294
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 31: using bands, you know, heavy bands, stretch bands that you're

2295
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 31: getting your stretching. It can leads to an extra ten minutes,

2296
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 31: is the ideal situation for me. You know, get the

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01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 31: kids on their bands, get the kids on a roller.

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01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 31: You don't need a hot tub per se, although a

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01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 31: lot of schools do have whirlpoles, you know, hot pack

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01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 31: machines things like that, especially if you've got a sore

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 31: muscle or whatever, you know, get get warmed up.

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Speaker 8: The products that.

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Speaker 31: We really like now is you know hyper rice venoms

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01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 31: where they're they're like a vibrating back unit where you

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 31: just it's a wrap for your knee, your back, your shoulder,

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01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 31: and they're vibrating seat units and they really work well.

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01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 31: And I suggest people with chronic problems. You know, hey,

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01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 31: it's a great investment to have one of those units

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01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 31: for warm up prior to do an activity.

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Speaker 3: What about the acclimatization period. It's difficult at times because

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01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 3: you get to these levels. And we talked about this

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01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 3: last week kind of with Joe Burrow. The coach of

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01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 3: the different sport wants you to play as quick as possible.

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01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 3: How important does the high school trainer become in making

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01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 3: sure that the coach understands and as incorporating proper time

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01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 3: for that athlete to make the transition from one sport

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01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 3: to another. If it's a star athlete or an athlete

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 3: that's going to be relied on in that sport, you

2319
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 3: can be pushed a lot of times, especially in high school,

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01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 3: by a coach, or by by family or by friends.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the importance of the trainer last week.

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01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 3: I would imagine that trainer's role at the high school

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01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 3: level becomes even more important in protecting the athletes.

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01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 31: Absolutely, I think that you have to as an athletic

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01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 31: trainer in a high school, you've got the responsibility to

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01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 31: make sure that your kids are taking their time to transition,

2327
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 31: reduce your risk of injury because you know, you have

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01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 31: that acute injury coming out of one sport into another sport,

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01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 31: you just it takes that much longer to recover because

2330
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 31: you just you know, again, basketball seasons already up and running.

2331
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 31: It's only got another month or two months to go

2332
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 31: for the high school before they start districts or regionals.

2333
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 31: So you know, you've got to take that opportunity to

2334
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 31: be ready for you get toward that point of the

2335
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 31: season where you're in must win game situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is always always tougher, but a very important

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01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 2: time for athletes at any skill level. That is Bob

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01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 2: Mangean from the University of Cincinnati and with Nova Care. Bob,

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01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: enjoy your trip to Georgia, and please, Bob, please bring

2340
01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 2: home a win.

2341
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 31: Well, we're going to try Tony. We're I think we're ready,

2342
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 31: kids are ready. Everybody wants to you know, the kids

2343
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 31: really want to win. So hopefully the weather is not

2344
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 31: a fact that we can get in and out of

2345
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 31: here with that much problem, and we'll keep our fingers

2346
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 31: crossed that we're going to bring home a winner.

2347
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 3: You're the man, that is, Bob man Jean from UC

2348
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 3: and Novcare. Bob always appreciate your time. Man, Thank you.

2349
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 31: Thanks guys, have a good weekend. And if you're going

2350
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 31: to the Bengal game, make sure you warm up. We're

2351
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 31: your thermacare, where your thermacare heaters, you know, get your

2352
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 31: wraps on where your heat is.

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Speaker 2: Make sure the extremities are warm.

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Speaker 8: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first rodeo, but I won't be there.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Today at SINCY three sixty, the Friday Football Friends of

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. All right, here we all,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna wrap up today's show with a quick went fast,

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Speaker 3: quick kits.

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Speaker 2: That was really fast. All you need to know. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals are gonna play the Ravens Sunday in very cold temperatures.

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Speaker 2: Stay warm. The Muskies are tonight Saturday is Yeah, Louisville

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Speaker 2: NKU Kentucky the Bearcats all in action.

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Speaker 3: Coming up this weekend. For now, I'm excited we're done

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Speaker 3: with the Friday football frenzy. We both hope you have

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Speaker 3: a great rest of your Friday, have a great weekend,

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Speaker 3: Stay warm, stay safe. Bengals PEP Rally with Wayne Box,

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Speaker 3: Miller and Dave Lapham is coming up next. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: our callers, listeners, talkbackers, sponsors, and everyone else, have a

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Speaker 3: great rest of your Friday. We'll talk to you again

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Speaker 3: on the Monday Midday Quarterback