1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Uros are Kawai Commas Spirit Health text line. We got 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Broncos Country tonight coming up here at the top of 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: the air. We gotta see you, see you Buffs men's basketball. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: See if that's multiple times, see you Buffs men's basketball 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: coming up at six thirty tonight tip at seven. So 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: all that still ahead, we will we'll get to a 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: little more in this game. We have a couple more 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on the matchups for the Broncos and the Chiefs. 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Want to get to that here in just second or reminder, 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: we have our coach's corner coming up at five thirty tonight, 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: so we have a voice of the Broncos, Dave Logan, 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: head coach Sean Payton breaking down a play from the 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: last game. So that'll be the touchdown to Troy Franklin, 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: I believe. And then right after that, I will give 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: you a cue call and you're gonna have a chance 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: to win Broncos Packers tickets. So that's coming up. So 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: before we get back into the game. Last night during 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, right before Thursday Night Football, Ian Rappaport 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: said something kind of interesting, and you know, there's this 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: what they say versus what they do right. So what 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: they say, what the Broncos have been saying, is they 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: love their receiver corps. They like these guys, They feel 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: great about the In fact, they traded Davon Vley because 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: they liked these guys so much. Well, come to find 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: out in the off season they were a finalist for 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: Very interesting. Here was the conversation. 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: Signing Sevan Diggs was the end of a decades long 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: quest for Mike Rayle, who did get him, by the way, 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: three year, sixty nine million dollar deal. Rabel recruited Digs 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: out of high school and he was an assist at 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: Ohio State, didn't get him, was mad about it. When 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: Diggs became available to Spring, his agent sent video to 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: the Patriots just three months after the ACL tear. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: He was running. 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: Cutting good, sign ahead of schedule. It came down to 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: the Broncos or Patriots. Five months from passing a physical. 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: The Patriots signed them. A big time leap of faith. 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you hear that, what is your what's 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: your reaction to that? 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Because and I don't know, like what that would have 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: meant for Saint Cortland Sutton, who at that point time 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: hadn't gotten his extension yet. This would have been March, 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: right when when he ended up getting his three or 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: sixty nine million dollar contract with the Patriots that was in. 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: March, so and twenty six million I think is guaranteed. 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: So if you would have probably it certainly changes kind 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: of the discussion about what this receiving room looks like. 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Stefon Diggs went healthy and he's been very 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: good for Drake May in the New England Patriots. Are 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: you frustrated that the Broncos didn't pull the trigger and 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: get that done or are you okay because you think 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: that the Broncos are ultimately going to be okay and 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: maybe Stefan Diggs, who was at that time considered a 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: bit of a locker room cancer coming off of the 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Houston experience and the Buffalo Bills, you're ultimately okay they 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: didn't bring him in. 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: I'm okay they didn't bring him in. 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: I think he's playing probably better than a lot of 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 5: people thought he might. You know, coming off in ACL 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: two is also a question mark. He's an older player. 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 5: What he's probably you know, in his thirties, has had 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 5: some off the field issues or locker room type of issues. Yeah, 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 5: I think that's something that maybe you don't do when 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: you're still trying to build the culture. You know, it's 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: something and I know Mike Rabel that they're doing that 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 5: because he knows him and he believes in him, and 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: then that kind of thing. A really good player can 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: run every route in the route tree. He's a number 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: one receiver. And so how would that have messed with 71 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: Cortland Sutton? I think you know, you probably would have 72 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: said goodbye to Courtland Sutton if you kept them both 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: a lah Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase, that would have 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 5: pretty been a dynamic duo. Would that have changed the 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: way the offense looks and the way you're calling plays? 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: I hope, but you don't know. So I think that. 77 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: Stephan DAGs was maybe too much of a question mark 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: to bring him in and ink him to a long term, 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: big deal like that. 80 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm probably okay too. 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like the New England Patriots, well, they 82 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: really needed a guy like this, right considering what their 83 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: receiving corps was, and you got a second year player 84 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: with the rookie contract with your quarterback, and he needed 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: something to be able to lean On and Steffan Diggs 86 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: win healthy is absolutely one of those guys you'd be 87 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: banking on that. I don't want to sound like copium though, 88 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: right because that's kind of what it feels like, because 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs would make you better like healthy, Steffan Diggs 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: makes this receiver room better. There's really no argue around it. 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: He's a one, and I don't know if we have 92 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: one right now. I don't know if the Broncos have 93 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: a one. 94 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: And that's not not Corland. 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Sexy actually have been a big fan of his for 96 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: a very long time. It's just to see several weeks 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: now in a row where he's not a big factor 98 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: in the offense. 99 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: And enough that's Cortland's fault. 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: Okay, you know, I think bo is maybe moving off 101 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: of Courtland a little bit quick. I know that Champayne 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: has talked about how Courtland's getting some combination coverages that 103 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: are making it difficult. But Cortland Sutton is the type 104 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: of player who can catch the ball. If you throw 105 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: it to him, you're not throwing it to him. I mean, 106 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 5: Troy Franklin is leading the team in targets and he 107 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: had he doubled him up last week. I mean, you're 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 5: just not trying hard enough, in my opinion, to get 109 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton the ball. We've seen games where he's clearly 110 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 5: a number one receiver. He looks like it, right, I mean, 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: does he have the quick twitch ability that Stefan Diggs 112 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 5: has to run every sort of route in the book? No, 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: but neither did Tarall Owans. He wasn't in every single 114 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 5: route kind of guy. He was a dominant, physical, big 115 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: receiver who can move guys out of the way and 116 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 5: go up and catch the ball and make guys miss. Now, 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: the thing that's different between Taral Loans and Cortland Sutton 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: is the run after the catch. Arrea Loans would turn 119 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: into a beast to bring down like Brandon Marshall would, right, 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: and Cortland Sutton seems to have not unlocked that part 121 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 5: of his game. He's bigger and stronger than everybody who's 122 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: covering him, and to me, I'd like to see him 123 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: become more of an aggressive runner after the catch, use 124 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: that offhand as a weapon and make yourself really difficult 125 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 5: to bring down. See yourself as a fighter at that point, 126 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: You're not gonna bring me down. And so in that regard, 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: I wish our number one guy was breaking more tackles 128 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: and had more yards after the catch. Courtland Sutton doesn't 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: seem to be having that. That said, I do think 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 5: he has a potential of being annumber one. We'll you 131 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: to this offseason. What's going to be your biggest priority 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: for this offense? I want a tight end who can 133 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: do it do it all? Okay, you know, I think 134 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: that's really important. I could be do the tight end 135 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 5: for me is is kind of the hinge between the 136 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 5: running game and the passing game. 137 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: And if he can only. 138 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: Run block well and he's not a good pass catcher, 139 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 5: or he can only pass catch well he's not a 140 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: good run blocker, that limits what you do you have 141 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: to It's a tell. Every time is having Ingram like 142 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: tricking anyone? You know, are you feeling, oh my gosh. No, 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: you kind of know that he's on there and trying 144 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 5: to get him the ball, But what about running right 145 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: at him and Evan Ingram making a you know, a 146 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: game change in block. I mean, Pat Bryant's doing that 147 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: kind of stuff. And so I think that getting a 148 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: tight end who's an every down run blocking, pass catching 149 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: guy would be the priority. 150 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I get behind that. 151 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean watching Tyler Warren with the Colts this year, man, 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: and what's great about him and it makes me really 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: appreciate good coaching, which I think they really have good 154 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: coaching out there in Indianapolis is they're using him exactly 155 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: as he was used in Pitt State, right Like they 156 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: lineup him in the backfield, they move all over the 157 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: formation like he's sometimes in the Wildcat Likes. 158 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: That's coaching right there. 159 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we see what you did in college, 160 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: and we're not going to bring you in here and 161 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: try to formulate you to what we think the idea 162 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: of a tight end is, which drives me crazy sometimes 163 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: when coaches have, no, this is our scheme, you're going 164 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: to fit us. We drafted you with the talent that 165 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: we believe you can ascend to what we do, instead 166 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of working with what you do and saying no, what 167 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: you did in college actually is pretty awesome and we're 168 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and utilize that. And he might win 169 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year as a result of it. 170 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: So that for me is exciting to see when a 171 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: player that is really that highly touted and was doing 172 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: so much at Penn State. They bring him into the 173 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: pros and say, why don't you just do the same thing. 174 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's already a complete player. Well, I mean 175 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: there's to an extent. I mean, obviously gonna he's gonna improve. 176 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: But but you understand my point, Like, sometimes you get 177 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: coaches who say, well, no, our titands they have to 178 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: be prolific block blockers. Now he is a good blocker already, right, 179 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: But sometimes you get were these receiving tight ends that 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: are really good in college, and it's like you bring 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: him in with the coaches and they say, hey, you 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: won't see the field until you're a prolific blocker. 183 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: Well, that's because there's a reason for it, because you 184 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: become easy. 185 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: To cover. 186 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: I mean, you, Kyle Pitts, was it number five, pick 187 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: number four? You you can't just split him out and 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 5: throwing the ball all the time. It doesn't work. They 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 5: tried it, and their offense suffered because of his one 190 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: dimensional nature. He can't be here every down tight end 191 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: you have to be able to block. And so I actually, 192 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: you know, I made that transition from receiver to tight end, 193 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 5: and so I understand that process. I understand how difficult. 194 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: It is, but I also understand how important it is 195 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: to have your guy who's your pass catching tight end. Now, 196 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 5: he doesn't have to be a road grading Mark Vo 197 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 5: type of blocker, okay, but he does need to be serviceable. 198 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 5: You do need to be able to trust him to 199 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 5: make a block on the play side, on. 200 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: A linebacker, a defensive end. 201 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 5: He needs to be able to do that, and if 202 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 5: he can't, then he is a liability in the run game. 203 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: And so he comes off the field and guess what. 204 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 5: The other team knows what you're doing. And that's why 205 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: guys like the Bills, who have two capable of receiving 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: tight ends but also capable blockers, we're able to gash 207 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: the Chiefs and are able to get a lot of 208 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: movement because you don't know what we're doing. 209 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: We might run it, we might throw it. 210 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 5: And if I'm on the field, it's not an indication 211 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: of what we're gonna do. 212 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: And Evan Ingram Adam. 213 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 5: Troutman, those tight ends right now, they kind of wherever 214 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: they are, it kind of shows you what they're doing 215 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: and what they're not doing. 216 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't kind of get behind that. 217 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I still think about like Julius Thomas and having back 218 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: to back twelve touchdown seasons and not a guy that 219 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: wants the block. 220 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: That's an anomaly. 221 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: And the trudging, yeah, those are just like three you know. 222 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: And but like George Kittle, oh he blocks. Yeah, And 223 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, elite. 224 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: He's the model because and I think that's what most 225 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: coaches want, is that because he's such a good run 226 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: blocker and he devotes himself to it that the play 227 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 5: action pass he opens wide up because you think I'm 228 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: about to block you because I have been, and then 229 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: all of a sudden I slipped by you and I'm 230 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: and I'm wide open. You know, like Travis Kelcey's role 231 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: on that team is not normal. I mean that's not 232 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 5: what they what most teams ask a tight end to do. 233 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 5: And you know the same with Julius Thomas, the same 234 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: with Jimmy Graham. I think the tried and true traditional 235 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: model and it works of having a tight end be 236 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: able to do both. 237 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: So you don't know what we're doing for this game 238 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: coming up on Sunday, So we know JK. 239 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Dobbins is going to be out and perry and rap 240 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: up for our NFL Network insidery. He says that it's 241 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: a significant foot injury and to believe to be out 242 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. So looks like ir might be 243 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: a possibility here. Doesn't sound like it's gonna be season ending, 244 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: which is fantastic because they're gonna need him whatever whatever 245 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: happens this weekend. The Broncos are a playoff team and 246 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna need JK. 247 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 248 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Now, hopefully maybe you get an RJ. Harvey like renaissance 249 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: over the next few weeks. What we're seeing like Trayvon Henderson 250 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: out there with the New England Patriots, where just the 251 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: guy could not get He couldn't buy a touch in 252 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: that offense. Some weeks it was all Ramondre Stevenson. Well, 253 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: Ramondre Stevenson went down and all of a sudden, Treyvon 254 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Henderson has five touchdowns over the last two weeks. 255 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I think R. J. 256 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Harvey's got that kind of talent. I'm very excited to 257 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: see what RJ. Harvey can do in this offense. But 258 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,359 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question about this weekend. Specifically, 259 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you have Alex Singleton, you have JK. Dobbins, you have 260 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: patzer Tan we could include Nate Adkins in there, but 261 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: we'll stay with those three. Of those three, which one 262 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: are they gonna miss the most this Sunday? 263 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: You know, I think it's gonna be JK. Dobbins. Okay, 264 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: R J. 265 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 5: Harvey still a rookie, but you know, it doesn't have 266 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: time to be a rookie. It's almost like, hey, you're 267 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 5: not a rookie anymore. Second half of the season, we're 268 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: gonna rely on you. But we've never seen him be 269 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 5: relied upon to be the bell cow. And I think 270 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: that to beat the Chiefs, you've gotta have to do 271 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: some of that. I wanted to see him get twenty carries. 272 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: I think he needs to get at least fifteen. Will 273 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 5: Sean Payton have the patience to do that? And will 274 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 5: he be able to hold up between the tackles like that? 275 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 5: You know, he's a kind of a smaller guy. He's 276 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: pretty well built, but we haven't seen him do that. 277 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Stocky, stocky. 278 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: But I'm tended to say Alex Singleton because he's everywhere, 279 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: and I know he's, you know, taking some flack for 280 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: his cover skills. He got beat a couple of times 281 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: by running back out of the backfield. But he's still 282 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 5: a tackling machine. He's top five in the NFL and 283 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: tackling the green dot, which you don't want to. You know, 284 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: we can't underestimate the importance of the signal caller, the 285 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: guy who's getting everyone lined up, the guy who's communicating 286 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: the message to play all that stuff and the calls. 287 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: So the defense, they got to put a new green 288 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 5: dot on a new helmet. I imagine it's going to 289 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: be justin sternad or as is a dre greenlaw. I 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: don't know, but that changes things a little bit on 291 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 5: the defense. And the defense has been playing so well, 292 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 5: So you're changing the chemistry a little bit of the defense, 293 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 5: not just by pulling Alex off the field, but also 294 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: giving the green dot to someone else. But I still 295 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: think that JK. Dobbins is the guy they're going to 296 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: miss the most. Okay, there's no like right or wrong. 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I think it's all kind of you know, shades of 298 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact is that you didn't go to 299 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the league. 300 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: Well, just in the last two weeks they've been good 301 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: without them, they have and so and so it's like 302 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 5: clearly they've been able to. You know, the depth in 303 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: that room has proven itself. They'll be really happy when 304 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 5: he comes back. But these other two are unknowns, you. 305 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Know, the JK. 306 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: Dobbins, miss and Alex Singleton. That's exactly right now. 307 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: I do wonder and I was asking this to Ben 308 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: and Dave yesterday about the unknown and how much that 309 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: can be maybe turned into an advantage. You perfectly laid it 310 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: out why it's a disadvantage. I'm not going to try 311 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: to pretend it's not, but for an advantage of your 312 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: opponent not knowing what you look like with the about 313 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: those things right, not knowing what RJ. Harvey looks like 314 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: with maybe fifteen carries running between the tackles. 315 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: You'd have to go back to UCF really to get that. 316 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: And he had one game with the Dallas Cowboys where 317 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: he carried it fourteen times, which was nice for him 318 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: to get that work, but they resulting away at the 319 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: game at that point. It's just good to see him 320 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: out there getting some opportunities, but you weren't running with intention, 321 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: with intention to win the game or because that game 322 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: has been decided already that point. 323 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: So the unknown of RJ. 324 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Harvey, the unknown of it's going to be Drake Greenlaw 325 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: for a lot of the game. In fact, maybe even 326 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of sixty two percent this last week. 327 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of justice ur not. 328 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: So there's some unknown parts about this. Does that help 329 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: you from a competitive advantage perspective versus the Chiefs in 330 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: their preparation? 331 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: I think so, but maybe not a ton. I mean, 332 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 5: these coaches have been around a long time. There's tape 333 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: on all these guys. Maybe, I think RJ. Harvey probably 334 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: the unknown there is a bit of an advantage. But 335 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 5: justin Surna has played a lot. You know, Drake green 336 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 5: Law missed so much this season and Dre played a lot. 337 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: You know, they know his what his skill set is. 338 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: He's a thumper, He's a flash, you know pang. So 339 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: I think that that R. J. Harvey can catch him 340 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: by surprise a little bit. And I think particularly him 341 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: running the football. They're aware that he's going to come 342 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: out of the backfield and be a dynamics pass catcher. 343 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: He's done that a couple of times this year. 344 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: I know he had a long touchdown run as well, 345 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 5: but they haven't seen him. They haven't seen if he 346 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: can wear down a defense. You know, they know they 347 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: haven't seen how he's going to be in the third 348 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: and the fourth quarter, what his motor is like when 349 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: he's heavily involved, you know, when they're feeding him, like 350 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: all these running backs want to be fit. That is 351 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: an unknown and that could catch him by surprise. 352 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the hope. I'm not I'm not. 353 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Trying to promote something that's like not physically possible. I'm 354 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: just saying that the under the circumstances, you always look 355 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: for competitive edges where you can get them, and I 356 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: honestly there was one that I was really hoping the 357 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Froncos would use this week, which is gives pascertain a 358 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: limited practice and list him is questionable on Friday. 359 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: It would have been interesting. You know, you're from it. 360 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: Joseph this week and even the last week he said, Hey, 361 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: it's difficult to think prepare because we are a different 362 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: defense without passer Tan and those are different reps to 363 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: see out of our group and what we're going to present. 364 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: To the Chiefs offense. 365 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: You wanted to see him perhaps play or just be listed, 366 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 5: just listed, because then that just one more thing the 367 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: Chiefs have to pay attention to and think about. 368 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: And it kind of goes back to Sean Payton talking 369 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: about DeMarcus Ware. He tells the story multiple times about 370 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: how we didn't prepare for DeMarcus and we didn't think 371 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: he was going to play, and then all of a 372 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: sudden he comes running out of the tunnel on game 373 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: day and he plays in the game and he got 374 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: all these sacks and all these pressures. And we didn't 375 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: prepare for DeMarcus Ware because we thought he wasn't going 376 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: to play, and so there was a little bit of 377 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: gamesmanship hope in my opinion, or hope that they would 378 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: be like Pascertan, even though we knew he wasn't going 379 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to play, that he would just get a limited practice in, 380 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: which is you know, conditioning, maybe just maybe just take 381 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: north of conditioning and then listen is questionable or even doubtful, honestly, 382 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: like just a little bit of hint there for the Chiefs. 383 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: To have to think about it. It must mean he's 384 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: not close, no, And we talked to him earlier and 385 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: it sounds like he's feeling better. 386 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, But this was always in my opinion through the 387 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: bye like this was like maybe you get him back 388 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: for the Washington game. 389 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: That would be kind of the hope. 390 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: Well, a huge challenge for the secondary without him or 391 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 5: with him. You know, Patrick Mahomes is able to extend 392 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 5: these plays. And they got a lot of speedy guys 393 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 5: out there and not no real true number one receiver. 394 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: You know, you got to you gotta focus on. 395 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: All these guys, including Travis Kelsey, no doubt about it. 396 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we got our coaches corner. 397 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: Plus right after your chance to win Broncos Packers tickets. 398 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: We'll get to that next. Because it was in the 399 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: midst of the. 400 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs winning streak and Alfred was trying to make the 401 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: point that this it's supposed to end. This is gonna 402 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: end eventually, and then he said something like I was 403 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: not gonna win. It's gonna hit this week, and I 404 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: think they did. 405 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: In the beating the Broncos. 406 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately there but the Broncos with Russell Wilson snapped the 407 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: Street twenty four to nine a couple of years ago. Seeah, 408 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: I have that over your head. And of course the 409 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Broncos split with him last year. Chief didn't need the 410 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: second game, so it's not a real mean it's a win, 411 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: but it's not like a real win. It would have 412 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: been great to sweep them last year at blockfield goal. 413 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's right, the. 414 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Broncos have been a team that has won those close games, 415 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: at least as of recently. 416 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: It's even if it's does well. 417 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: I mean they lost the two, the two, Yeah, they'd 418 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: be undefeated. 419 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's six and two in one score games and in. 420 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: The field goal operation. Could be coming down to the 421 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 5: could come down to the special teams. You know, last 422 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 5: week Crosshaw had a tough he did a tough game. 423 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: Some people call him cross Ink. Well, tomorrow Sunday might 424 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: be cross Ink redemption. 425 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: You're not calling him Crosshank, right, that would be something 426 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: you would ever say. 427 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: No. 428 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 5: No, It's funny as a journalist you can say some 429 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: people are saying some people are saying this many and 430 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 5: then say whatever you want. A lot of folks are saying, no, 431 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 5: I mean he has an issue with the way he's 432 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 5: dropping the ball. 433 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: For whatever reason. Yeah, I heard that earlier this week. 434 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 5: But he's got a fantastic leg. He'll clean that up. 435 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 5: But it could come down to the kicking. Game could 436 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: come down to cross Shawn, and it could come down 437 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: to Lutz. 438 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: You moot that's right? Stright? 439 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Why okay? So as promised, that was really good grant. 440 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: We have our coach's corner here, Voice of the Broncos 441 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: Dave Logan along with head coach Sean Payton, breaking out 442 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: of play from the last week's game, which is the 443 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: touchdown Detroy Franklin. And after this, I'll give you a 444 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: cute call for your chance to win Broncos Packers tickets. 445 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: But without further ado, here we go with coach's corner. 446 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: Nicks drops back, throws the ball to the end though 447 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: the passes taught, and that is a Denver touchdown, probably 448 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: Franklin with the catch at the gold line, and he 449 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: had Eric Stokes. 450 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: On his back. 451 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 6: So Sean, obviously that was a big play. It puts 452 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: you guys into a position to tie the game up. 453 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Just talk to us a little bit about that call. 454 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's actually called fifty three upright rail double cross, 455 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 7: and so you try to float a zone. Someton's got 456 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 7: the big baseline upright, and you have a rail that 457 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 7: first crosser, and then it's the second crosser that you're 458 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 7: trying to get open. The thing that was impressive there 459 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 7: and I really like how the quarterback climbed the pocket 460 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 7: all right and made the throw because that's where that's 461 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 7: where the pocket unfolded, and so it was. It was 462 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 7: one of those moments where I'm like, man, there it is. 463 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 7: You know it's in the gun five climb and then 464 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 7: making that throw in a tight window to Troy. That 465 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 7: was an important play. 466 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 467 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 6: I mean ballplacement too, because you mean hit him where 468 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 6: Troy could catch it and also kind of contain the ball. 469 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: That's right, that's. 470 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: Right, and it's it would be you know, there's certain 471 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: I think I think people think you give new play. 472 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 7: That would be a play that's up every week from 473 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 7: an oddball formation and yet the reads and the you 474 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 7: know there's a progression, but upright rail double cross would 475 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 7: be one of our staples and uh and the timing 476 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 7: of it and everything worked out just. 477 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: How you wanted it too, Okay, good enough? 478 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 6: All right? 479 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Appreciation yep, all right, really good stuff. Enjoy those. 480 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Every single week we had an opportunity to play what 481 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: was the Broncos Dave Logan and head coach Sean Payton 482 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: breaking down a play right now we call her number nine. 483 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: The Broncos are going for the ninth win. I'm assuming 484 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: that's why I. 485 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Granted this Caller number nine three all three seven one 486 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: three eighty five eighty five three all three seven one 487 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: three eighty five eighty five. Caller nine is going to 488 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: win a pair of tickets to the Broncos Packers December 489 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: fourteenth game at in Power Field, a mile high from 490 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: the official home of the Broncos Kaway. 491 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: And again, this is Broncos Packers. 492 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: We had somebody win tickets last week and they thought 493 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: it was for a different game. So this is Broncos Packers. 494 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Just so we're very clear on that. So call number 495 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: nine three or three seven one three eighty five eighty five. Yeah, 496 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: they call back and they're like, well, I can't go 497 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: to that game. I'm like, oh, you won tickets anyways. 498 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: So so yeah, there we go, and good luck, good luck. 499 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: We love that we can do that here on the 500 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: official home of the Broncos k Away. 501 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 5: So what do you think about that breakdown? What did 502 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: you learn from that? Yeah, it seemed like bread and butter. 503 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: Play crossing, you know, crossing routes, holding the safety, flooding 504 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 5: his zone, normal passing game stuff. 505 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: It's good that the quarterback stepped up. I don't know 506 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: why I didn't call him bow because he called Troy Troy. 507 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: It's this weird thing. The quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback. 508 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 5: To me, it's like he's having a hard time saying 509 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: his name right now. What do you think that is? 510 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: Is the tension? There's tension there. Okay, there's a tension there. 511 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: Now he stepped He talked about him stepping up in 512 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 5: the pocket, which he did really nicely on that play. 513 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 5: Bo has had a tendency to bail out a little 514 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: bit early to the right when he gets pressure, and 515 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: maybe he's sensing pressure a little too soon, and so 516 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: I think that's probably been a lot of the you know, 517 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: the difficult conversations that they've been having together is staying 518 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: in that pocket. So that's probably why they wanted to 519 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: talk about that play because it was the time that 520 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 5: he did what he was coached to do, step up 521 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: in the pocket and deliver the ball. He delivered an accurate, 522 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: really nice ball to Troy. But that was like their 523 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 5: only cool play, you know, in the game, and that 524 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: was their only touchdown, and so they got to have 525 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 5: a lot more of those this week. But you can 526 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: sense I can sense a bit of tension there between 527 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 5: Sean and his quarterback, which happens when you're not clicking. 528 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 5: And you know, Sean was an ex quarterback, and so 529 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 5: those ex quarterbacks who had some success and are now 530 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: coaches are really hard on the young quarterbacks. And I 531 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 5: just hope that they're able to work this out because 532 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: they're eight and too their first place, and I don't 533 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: know what to. 534 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Do with it. 535 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'll say let's just roll with it 536 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: for a second, saying there is some tension and on 537 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: some of you can kind of understand why because it 538 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: looks like it, Like from our just watching the games, 539 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: it looks like it. You sort of think like internally, 540 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: you'd find a way to figure it out because you 541 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: are a winning team, you've had success. 542 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: Sean hand picked the quarterback. 543 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: This is like his guy bet his legacy on it 544 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, never drafted the first front quarterback, 545 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: So like, what's the. 546 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: Deal, Like, well, I think that's that's the deal is 547 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: that he did bet on it. 548 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: He did risk his legacy for this kid, for this kid. 549 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: And so when this kid is not performing up to 550 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 5: the standard and this kid is getting excoriated in the 551 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: national media, and this kid is a subject of these 552 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 5: conversations about why he's not playing well in the Broncos 553 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 5: offense is being carried by the defense, and I think 554 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: the Sean picked Sean pertin Sean Payton hears every single 555 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: one of those criticism. 556 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: He says, to be very plugged into these things. 557 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 5: He is, and so I think he's internalizing that. And 558 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 5: instead of you know, the supportive sort of we're going 559 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 5: to get this. I believe in you, we got this, 560 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: let's figure it out. We're on the same page. I 561 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: believe you know, we're doing this together. There becomes a 562 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: sort of adversarial relationship there where nothing is good enough 563 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: and there's always tension, and every time we're watching film, 564 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: I'm picking it apart. And it's not like I'm not 565 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 5: talking about the good stuff you're doing anymore. I'm really 566 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 5: just talking about the stuff you're screwing up and then off. 567 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: And then the style of communication matters too. The words 568 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 5: I choose to use to coach you up well more 569 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 5: often than not affect the way you take it. And 570 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 5: if someone's being and I don't know, I don't know, 571 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: I'm not in those rooms, right, but so. 572 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: Those just a cold kind of the quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback. 573 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: And and some coaches do that, they kind of objectify 574 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: the player and they'll the player, they'll call them the player. 575 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels used to do that. Now he's a good coordinator, 576 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: bad head coach. 577 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 578 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: I want them to patch this, and nothing will do 579 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: that better than a big offensive explosion. 580 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: Everything working. 581 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 5: Let's get back on the same page, you know, because 582 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: these are two men who need to find a way 583 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: to work together. 584 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: Quickly before we hit traffic here. 585 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: YouTube TV and Disney have agreed to a deal that 586 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: will restore ESPN and other channels to the service. 587 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: Okay, how about that immediately? That's what it sounds like. 588 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: They came to a deal. Yeah, so for all the 589 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: people that are I mean, I was too busy to 590 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: look into it, but I've been concerned by it. There's 591 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 5: no ESPN two weeks now, two weeks we'll move without Wow. 592 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: So it's happened on a Friday, five forty nights. 593 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: How about that? 594 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back on the other side. 595 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: We got show me the money, broncous countries and night 596 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: come at the top of the art. 597 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: There's a little bit. 598 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: We'll snip it from Susie Warrigen's Sideline stories with your 599 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: bulls talking about it. 600 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: The heroes, they are the ones that give us this 601 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 8: freedom to live in this beautiful country and be a 602 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 8: to play football, and without them, we want to be 603 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 8: where we're at. So it's definitely a surreal moment for 604 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 8: me and it's definitely a very you know, it gets 605 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 8: me going, gives me the juice and to be able 606 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 8: to go out there and play the game. 607 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: I love you. 608 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: Ever thought about what branch you would go into if 609 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 5: you had gone into the military. 610 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 8: Would definitely be a Navy seal for sure. Yeah, some 611 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 8: top of a Special Forces. 612 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Benjamin Albright Jonas Studio, The real Hero, gush, Yeah, you're 613 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: the real hero. 614 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: It's it's fine, no need to think. Did you ever 615 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: consider anything besides army? 616 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, actually initially Air Force, But you know, in 617 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 9: order to be a pilot you got to go through 618 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 9: the four year you know, and then you got to 619 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 9: be a certain weight and all that kind of stuff. 620 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: And there's there's certain weight. Yes, you're not heavy enough. 621 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 9: Well, in a fighter pilot, I was not heavy enough. 622 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 9: The jaw. You gotta be heavy enough. You have to 623 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 9: be a certain way. Yeah, oh yeah, I was a chunky. 624 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Back then. Then you gotta lose some weight like Barty 625 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: Rubby Brint. I was like, wait, did they fat fat 626 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: shame to me out of the Airfiest. 627 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 9: No, it was the Air Force didn't have the same 628 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 9: program that I because I enlisted when I was seventeen. 629 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 9: I was still a junior in high school when I enlisted, 630 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 9: and so I did my basic training between my junior 631 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 9: and senior year of high school and then I came 632 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 9: back did my senior or high school and then left. 633 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: And so the Air Force didn't have that either. They 634 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: didn't have that option at that point either. 635 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 5: So did you forget any of the training between and 636 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 5: when you went back to high school and then went 637 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 5: back after that? 638 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 2: You didn't have to just basic training? I mean it's 639 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: basic marketing shipsic. Yeah, basic training is real base. 640 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 9: I mean it's facing movements in marching and you know, 641 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 9: it's all basic stuff. 642 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: So we again sured just a moment ago that ESPN 643 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Walt Disney they agreed to a deal with YouTube. So 644 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: that's finally done. All the billionaires can stop fighting over. 645 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: On the napsital light beer is over if you will. 646 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. 647 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: It's uh, I'm happy about it. I have YouTube TV, 648 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: so I'm pretty excited about it. I've been supplementing with 649 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: Fubo for a little bit, so I'm excited about that. 650 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 9: But when you coming on BCT short show, obviously we 651 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 9: got the CU Buffs men's basketball, so we get the 652 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 9: real quick half hour. 653 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: There'll be about it looking forward to that. Are you well? 654 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: First I'll ask Nate after we've come to the end 655 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: of the show. You were on the fence about what 656 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: direction you were leaning with the game. Have anything I've 657 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: said helped convince you one. 658 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: Way or the other? 659 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 5: You've convinced me that you are very optimistic, Okay, it 660 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: has not changed my view of it. You know, I 661 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: think the Broncos need to prove it to me that 662 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: they're ready to to, you know, supplant the bully on 663 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: the block. I know the Chiefs are not having their 664 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 5: best season right now, but I think they have an 665 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 5: incredible amount of confidence playing the Broncos, and so you know, 666 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: this is this is the this is this is a 667 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: huge test, probably the biggest test the Broncos have faced 668 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: next to the Eagles. But I think it's even a 669 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: bigger one because it's their boogeyman that dream died, really 670 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 5: good stuff,