1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Thanksgiving week Here on the Dan O'Donell show 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: hope everybody is getting where they need to be over 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: the river and through the woods to grandmother's house across 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: the country if need be, or if you're like me 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: and staying put this Thanksgiving that you settle in for 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: three hours of broadcast excellen sore at the very least 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: and far more likely broadcast competence. Obviously, the biggest story 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: of the day was a giant international story over the weekend, 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the escape of Morgan Geyser from a group home in Madison. 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Why did the Department of Justice here in Wisconsin wait 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: so long to inform the Madison Police Department, allowing Geyser 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: and a male acquaintance ample time to get all the 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: way down to near Chicago, where she was apprehended. She 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: was in Worth this morning. She faces an extradition hearing tomorrow. 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: We will attack this story from all angles, including the 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: systemic failure that allowed her to be released to a 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: group home from a mental health facility where she should 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: have remained until she was at least fifty three years old. Also, 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: it should not be lost in the shuffle of this 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: story that Guyser now identifies as a male. The connection 21 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: between transgender ideology and schizophrenio, which her defense attorneys argued, 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: citing multiple psychologists that she was no longer suffering from 23 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: the connection between the two, should have been ample evidence 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: that she was still schizophrenic, ie still a danger to 25 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: herself and others, should not have been released. But why 26 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: is it that psychologists will not follow the actual science 27 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: and connect the dots between schizophrenia and trans ideology? And 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: why is Geyser just the latest in a growing list 29 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: of violent and very high profile trans individuals. We will 30 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: get into all of that throughout this hour here on 31 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: The Dan o'donald Show. If you want to join us, 32 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: our phone lines are open, so to his Our text 33 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: line the avet noo is dot com talk and text 34 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: line four one four seven nine to nine eleven thirty, 35 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: or you can reach us toll free one eight one 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: hundred eight three eight nine four seven six. Email me 37 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: directly d od at iHeartMedia dot com at Dan O'donaldshow, 38 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: on x Facebook dot com, slash Dan o'donald Show. We're 39 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram, we're on LinkedIn, We're on YouTube. We are 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: streaming live everywhere via the Danocam. Please do check in 41 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: and follow the show via podcast at iHeartRadio or wherever 42 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. Geyser was in in Illinois, the 43 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: court executed the out of state warrant from Wisconsin ordered 44 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: that Geyser be detained in the Cook County jail. This 45 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: according to records from the Clerk of the Circuit Court 46 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: in Cook County. Extradition hearing is scheduled for tomorrow. Earlier today, 47 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Waukeshaw County District Attorney Leslie Baizy expressed her dismay and 48 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: frustration with the fact that the timeline of Morgan Geyser's 49 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: escape on Saturday night meant that there was just nothing 50 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: that anybody could do until Saturday, or rather Sunday morning, 51 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: when this was made public. 52 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Once Misguyser is brought back to Walkshire County, it will 53 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: be the up to Department of Health Services whether they 54 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: foul a petition to evoke her conditional release. We are 55 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: certainly hopeful that they do proceed with that. We fully 56 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: support it. We support that she should be in custody, 57 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: not only should she had been in custody from twenty 58 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: fourteen forward, but also Triny Nick lay argued vehemently for 59 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: her not to be released to conditional release in I 60 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: believe it was January of this year, and therefore we 61 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: will be fully supporting a petition if one is filed. 62 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Now. 63 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I need to remind people about 64 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: the slender Man's stabbing, but since we have listeners and 65 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: viewers from all across the country who might not be 66 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: familiar with the twenty fourteen case, Geyser and her friend 67 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Anissa Weyer lured their also twelve year old friend at 68 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the time into the woods, where they stabbed her multiple 69 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: times in an attempt to please the fictional character slender Man, 70 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: who at the time was very popular on Internet sites 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: as part of the Creepy pasta genre of internet content. 72 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: She pleaded guilty to attempted first degree intentional homicide, but 73 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: at trial a couple of years after the stabbing, Guyser 74 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. 75 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: She was diagnosed with schizophrenia. In twenty eighteen, Waukeshaw County 76 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: Circuit Court Judge Michael Boren, who has since retired, sentenced 77 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: her to the maximum indeterminate term of forty years to 78 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: life in a mental health facility. She needed three years 79 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: of initial confinement and treatment at a state forensic psychiatric 80 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: institute until her symptoms resolve or she reaches the age 81 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: of fifty three. Now, she was released from the Winnebago 82 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Mental Health Institute early this year. She served just seven 83 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: years of her forty year to life commitment. We will 84 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: get into why exactly she was released and why she 85 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: absolutely shouldn't have been coming up a little bit later 86 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: this hour, But following the timeline of her escape to 87 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: when local police in Madison, where she was living in 88 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: her group home, were notified, reveals massive failures by the 89 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Department of Justice. Here's how it all went down. 90 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: Between about seven thirty and eight fifteen on Saturday night, 91 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Geyser is last seen on security video near her group 92 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: home in Madison. She was walking with an unidentified adult 93 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: male acquaintance who she was ultimately arrested with outside of 94 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I believe it was a bus station near Chicago. At 95 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: about nine to thirty pm, the Department of Corrections received 96 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: a malfunction alert from Geyser's ankle monitor. She had rather 97 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: obviously removed it, and staff from the group home conducted 98 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: a welfare check. Once they were told all right the 99 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: device's malfunction, they confirmed she deliberately cut the device off 100 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: off using some sort of unknown tool, and then notified 101 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: the Department of Corrections, Hey, we cannot find Morgan Geyser. 102 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: We see her removed ankle bracelet, but we don't have her. 103 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: At around midnight, two and a half hours after the 104 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: call from the staff at this group home to the DOC, 105 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: there's an internal apprehension order issued. The DOC and this 106 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: is what should still be under investigation. Did not immediately 107 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: alert the Madison Police Department because it took two hours 108 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: or so, they say, to verify that she had in 109 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: fact tampered with the device. Well, excuse me. If they 110 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: get an alert from the device itself that says, hey, 111 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: this device has been tampered with, and they get an 112 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: alert from the staff at this group home that the 113 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: device had been tampered with. Have the device? We do 114 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: not have Morgan Geyser. It appears as though an instant 115 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: APB all points bulletin should go out to local police departments, 116 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: not just in Madison, but across Dane County and really 117 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: across the broader area. This is a violent individual who 118 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: despite what several psychologists who believed her Kakamami story that 119 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: somehow she was miraculously cleared of serious schizophrenic delusions in 120 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: just a matter of years or actually even months. They 121 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: were saying, well, she made a miraculous recovery over the 122 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: last several months. This is still a person who is 123 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: very dangerous. Seven forty six a m. So we have 124 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: gone from nine thirty pm, give or take. When the 125 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: first nine to one one call is placed, staff member 126 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: at the group home calls nine to one one to 127 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: report Morgan Geyser in an n as an at risk 128 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: missing person. At this point, Madison police are finally made 129 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: aware of the fact that she has pulled off her 130 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: bracelet and escaped. Remember, she was last sighted outside of 131 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: the group home on surveillance video twelve hours earlier. This 132 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: gave her more than enough time to get out of 133 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: what would be a standard search area. So sometime yesterday afternoon, 134 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: she and this guy take a bus from Madison to 135 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: the Chicago area, eventually landing in Posin, Illinois, which is 136 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty five minutes south of downtown Chicago. It 137 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: took them about four to six hours to go The 138 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: estimated two hundred miles in that time. Very clearly, had 139 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: law enforcement in the Madison area been notified, they could 140 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: have pieced together through surveillance cameras where it was and 141 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: this guy were going. They probably could have been able 142 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: to pin her to that exact bus station where they 143 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: would have just needed to take a look at what 144 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: buses were leaving for where and figured out where she 145 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: was very quickly. Ten thirty five pm, police in Posen 146 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: last night locate Geyser and the forty two year old 147 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: man she was with, which raises some significant questions of 148 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: its own. Why this forty two year old is with 149 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old Morgan Geyser. Is this a 150 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: relative does not appear to be, Is this a family friend, 151 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: or more likely, is this somebody who she possibly met 152 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: on the internet who is all manner of screwed up 153 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: himself and was contacted specifically to or as part of 154 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: their ongoing relationship, agreed to help her escape. So they're 155 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: found at this truck stop and gas station, and when 156 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: she was at who she was, according to police, she 157 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: said just google me. Well this was the wrong answer, 158 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: because they did. They figured out exactly who she was, 159 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and they took her into custody. The forty two year 160 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: old has been charged with a couple of minor crimes 161 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: loitering trespassing at this truck stop gas station, as well 162 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: as obstruction for failing to give his name. People are 163 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: asking very serious questions about why there was such a 164 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: big delay, and I am one of them. Why did 165 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the Department of Corrections wait so long to inform local police? 166 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Was this, as I suspect, just your standard issue incompetence, 167 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: because remember this did occur on a Saturday night, and 168 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: are there fewer than normal people staffing the Department of 169 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Corrections department task with monitoring all of the people who 170 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: are off on electronic monitoring devices. Was this just bureaucratic 171 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: incompetence at the highest level? My guess is it is. 172 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: I don't believe, and I have no evidence to suggest 173 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: that there was anything nefarious or anything like that, but 174 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: this does once again illustrate just how dangerous it is 175 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: to allow dangerous people like Morgan Geyser. And thank heavens, 176 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: she didn't go to Wakashaw to try to get revenge 177 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: on the girl who put her in prison. Apparently there 178 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: is no animosity there, or at least that's what decades 179 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: worth of court filings suggest. But she is potentially a 180 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: danger to everybody else out there. Not only that, think 181 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: about all of the other people who are dangerous, who 182 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: are career criminals. This is somebody who is just deeply 183 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: mentally disturbed, obviously shouldn't be out and about I actually 184 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: was fearful that she escaped because she was going to 185 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: commit suicide. Was generally I think the overall fear amongst 186 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: law enforcement when word got out on Sunday morning that 187 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: she had cut off her bracelet or somehow slipped out 188 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: of her bracelet and escaped. But nonetheless, she is about 189 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the least dangerous of all of the dangerous people who 190 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: are routinely put out on electronic monitoring. If there is 191 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: this amount of delay, just think about somebody who's armed 192 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: to the teeth, who has nothing to lose and is 193 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: not going to go down without shooting at law enforcement 194 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: or anybody else who happens to notice him and attempts 195 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: to bring him back into custody. This is where we 196 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: get into a massive issue with violence amongst people who 197 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: are released on signature bond, on electronic monitor whatever it is. 198 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: This is why dangerous people need to be locked up. 199 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: As I said, Leslie Basey, the Walkeshaw County District Attorney, 200 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: was expressing extreme frustration and outright dismay that there was 201 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: this delay in informing anybody, including the slender Man stabbing 202 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: victim and her family. 203 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: We thought out yesterday morning about Morgan's escape. Victim Witness 204 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: was immediately notified of this information. The director of the 205 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Victim Witness Unit, Jhen Dunn, did reach out to the 206 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: victim and her family. We were told that they had 207 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: not been informed prior to misdone reaching out to them 208 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: that Morgan had escaped, and I'm able to verify that 209 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: when we spoke with the victim's family, or when Miss 210 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Dun spoke with the victim's family at twelve twenty this 211 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: morning or this afternoon, they still had not been informed 212 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: by any other agency other than our own that she 213 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: had escaped, which is very concerning. While she was on 214 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: the loose, we were very concerned about the safety of 215 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: the victim and her family, as well as our community. 216 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: Well they should be. Why is it that it's the 217 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: Waukeshaw County District Attorney that is informing this victim that 218 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: the girl who tried to stab her fourteen years ago 219 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: or eleven years ago, excuse me, in twenty fourteen is 220 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: on the loose that she escaped from a group home 221 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: where I don't think I need to tell you there 222 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: is a whole lot less security than there is at say, 223 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the Winnebago Mental Health Facility, which houses the most dangerous 224 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: mentally unwell people in the state. This is a massive 225 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: failure of epic proportions, and thank heavens, it didn't end 226 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: tragically with either the death of Morgan Geyser at her 227 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: own hands or the death of somebody else at Morgan 228 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Geyser and whoever this forty two year old man who 229 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: was on the road with her when we come back 230 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: here on the Dan O'Donnell Show, why it was such 231 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: a travesty that Morgan Geyser was ever released to begin with. 232 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Just to remind her, we are today starting all Christmas 233 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: bumper music on this Thanksgiving week. You're listening to the 234 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. Back in three minutes. Welcome back to 235 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald's Show. It is conservative thought, not just talk. 236 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: We are in the holiday spirit on this Thanksgiving week, 237 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: so we decided we're going to play all Christmas bumper 238 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: music from right now until after Christmas. I am also continuing, 239 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: as we continued the Mark Belling Show tradition of playing 240 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the second week of Deer camp on Friday as we 241 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: closed up shop for the weekend before the nine day 242 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: gun deer season began in Wisconsin. We are also continuing 243 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the tradition of playing Christmas music. I'm not willing to 244 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: go as long as Mark did with it. He would 245 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: actually go to January sixth, which is the end of 246 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: the traditional twelve days of Christmas with the Holy Epiphany. 247 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: Right yeah, the Epiphany and also Orthodox Christmas I will 248 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: end after New Year, so we're going to do the 249 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: entire week after Christmas. As always, folks, I am taking 250 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: off that week between Christmas and New Year's. It's just 251 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: an annual tradition like to spend with my family. And 252 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: as a reminder, I am going to be gone Wednesday, Thursday, 253 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: and Friday of next week. My brother is getting married, 254 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: so we're heading off to Mexico, City, of all places, 255 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: is where he wanted to get married for Right now, though, 256 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: since we are in the Christmas spirits, we remind you 257 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: to this Thanksgiving holiday record your kids playing Christmas music 258 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: on their instruments piano, violin, clarinet, trombone, SUSA and it 259 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, or record them singing a Christmas carol and 260 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: enter your submissions for the twenty twenty five Dan o'donald 261 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Show Family Christmas Special. It is going to premiere right 262 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: here on The Dan o'donalds Show at four o'clock in 263 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: the afternoon on December twenty third, and then it is 264 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: going to play throughout the day on Wissen on Christmas 265 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Eve and Christmas Day. It will also be available as 266 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: a podcast. We have already gotten a handful of submissions 267 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and a reminder, we can only guarantee that the first 268 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: fifty five zero submissions are going to be accepted, so 269 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: please get those in early as early as you can. 270 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend is a perfect time to do it. You 271 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: can email them to DD at iHeartMedia dot com. That's 272 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: DD at iHeartMedia dot com. That is going to be 273 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: the only way we accept submissions. Multiple siblings together or 274 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: sept are just fine. It's open to kids eighteen or under, 275 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: provided those eighteen year olds are still in high school, 276 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: so high school seniors on down. Also, if you are 277 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: the conductor or a director or school principal of a 278 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: school choir or church group that you want to feature, 279 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: provided that you have the ability to speak on the 280 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: group's behalf. We would love your submissions as well, your choir, 281 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: your orchestra, your band, whatever it is. Please do keep 282 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: those submissions to about two minutes or under, and the 283 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: deadline for final submissions is going to be the end 284 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: of the day, that is the end of this show 285 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: on Friday, December twelfth, So please do you get those 286 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: submissions in as early as you can. Todd at iHeartMedia 287 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: dot com we are looking forward once again the twenty 288 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: twenty five Dan O'Donnell show Family Christmas Special. The original 289 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: set sentence for Morgan Geyser was deeply flawed. I supported 290 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: the decision to try her as an adult as opposed 291 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: to a child, but it was unsurprising, to say the least, 292 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: that she was eventually found not guilty by reason of 293 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: mental disease or defect, essentially the state's insanity defense. She 294 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and four years after the stabbing 295 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen February of twenty eighteen, she's sentenced to 296 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: the maximum term of forty years to life in a 297 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: state mental health facility. This was the right decision by 298 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: Judge Michael Boren. However, she was released earlier this year. 299 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: She served just seven years of the forty year to 300 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: life commitment. Why because three psychologists from that institute testified 301 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: in January of this year in a hearing again before Boren, 302 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: because Born was up until he retired handling this case. 303 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: They testified that Geyser has made quote impressive and substantial 304 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: progress over the preceding six months. How did they know? 305 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Prosecutors argue that she was faking her progress in twenty 306 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty twenty four, remember she has been petitioning 307 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: for her release consistently since she was initially confined. In 308 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: two separate evaluations, they noted that Geyser had been quote 309 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: faking improvement or minimizing her symptoms to gain privileges like say, 310 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: access to the phone, access to the intern whatever it 311 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: was an extra jello cup. I don't know what she 312 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: would be faking to get privileges. Four Prosecutors were also 313 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: able to present evidence in twenty twenty four that she 314 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: had actually gone so far as to brag to another 315 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: patient about howing how to how she knew how to 316 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: play the doctors. Now, this to me would be proof 317 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: positive that nothing that you see about her progress should 318 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: be believed. That she knew how to talk to psychologists 319 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: who are then presenting their evidence before Judge Borne. Oh, yes, 320 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: because of our work with her. This has always been 321 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: sort of the scam about these psychiatric evaluations. It's the 322 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: psychologists who treat her themselves who are making the recommendation. 323 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: What do you think they are going to say, Yes, 324 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm a terrible psychologist and this patient has made absolutely 325 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: no progress. Or if you have somebody who maybe wasn't 326 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: as schizophrenic as she initially claimed, in order to get 327 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: that guilty by or not guilty by reason of mental 328 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: disease or defect verdict, maybe she was also in her 329 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: own words, playing the doctors in order to get released 330 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: from her mental health facility. In fact, this is something 331 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: that in today's press conference with the Waukeshaw County District 332 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: Attorney's Office, assistant da Abby Nikolay said was a big problem. 333 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: She was the one who is actually arguing earlier this 334 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: year that there's no way that Morgan Geyser should be 335 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: released to a group home because she's still incredibly mentally ill. 336 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: She is still an incredible danger to herself and others. 337 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: And Nikolay said, look, it is it is very concerning 338 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: that this is going to be the second time that 339 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: we have to in the span of a year, go 340 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: before a judge and say no, she needs to be 341 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: back in a mental health business. 342 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: One thing that is very concerning to me is that 343 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: if and when a petition is filed by the department 344 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: to revoke conditional release, it will be the second one 345 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: that is filed, because we were here in March on 346 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 4: a petition to revoke conditional release already, and so it's 347 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: extremely concerning that you would so blatantly violate a very 348 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: very simple condition, which is to stay in a placement 349 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: and keep a bracelet on, and that we have no 350 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: idea what was going on is extremely concerning to the 351 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 4: state because immediately my thoughts went to the victim and 352 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: keeping the community safe. But as additional information is gathered, 353 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: that would be the kind of facts that are put 354 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: into a petition to revoke, and that would be what 355 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 4: is litigated at that motion hearing before the court when 356 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: I'd be able to gather more information, whether there are 357 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: specifics about the dangerousness, but I think those blatant acts 358 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: in themselves certainly speak to the dangerousness there. 359 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: Nikolai is absolutely correct. Morgan Geyser was still most definitely 360 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: a threat. She apparently, in evaluations back in twenty twenty three, 361 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: admitted to still having hallucinations about violent entities such as 362 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: slender Man. She was also, apparently, according to her admissions 363 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: in prior evaluations, taking orders from Voldemort, the bad guy 364 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: in the Harry Potter books and movies. And she also 365 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: was reading the novel Rent Boy. It explores themes of 366 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: human trafficking, murder, selling organs on the black market. Now that, 367 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: in and of itself, okay, someone is reading that, whatever, 368 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: someone who has committed extreme violence and his schizophrenic is 369 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: reading that, that is potentially a warning sign that this 370 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: person is still obsessed with death, still obsessed with disembowelment, 371 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: still obsessed with very dark things. Not only that, it 372 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: was presented as evidence in her most recent mental health 373 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: evaluation that she didn't disclose that she was reading this. 374 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: She deliberately hid that from her therapists. She deliberately hid 375 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: that from anybody and prosecutors, including Nikolai said that this 376 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: shows a lack of transparency about her continued interest in 377 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: the macabre, the violent, the gruesome. Remember, she was just 378 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: eleven years ago so fixated on the slender Man that 379 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: shed stabbed her friend nineteen times and very nearly killed her. Well, 380 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: if she's once again reading about violent, gruesome content, does 381 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: this mean that she is beginning this cycle again? Here 382 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: is an aspect of the story that nobody wants to 383 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: dive into. She began publicly identifying as transgender, using the 384 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: he him pronouns and taking a boy's name. It was 385 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: reportedly Ethan, although that has not been officially confirmed. She 386 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: first started publicly identifying as trans in that conditional release 387 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: hearing in January, first time her treatment team, first time 388 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: any court records ever documented this shift in gender identity. 389 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: She appeared in court in January with a short haircut. 390 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: She was reportedly using a breast binder to reduce the 391 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: amount that her breasts would show through her shirt, So 392 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: there is no mention of her being transgender identifying as 393 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: a boy in the trial documents at all those span years. 394 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: In the sentencing in twenty eighteen, in release petitions twenty 395 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty three, there are multiple release petitions. 396 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Every single one of them was either denied or withdrawn. 397 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: In none of them does she ever identify as trans now. 398 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: One of the consulting psychologists, a doctor Brooke Lundbolm, testified 399 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: in January that Geyser's identification as a male, which she 400 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: said started at the end of May of twenty twenty four, 401 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: was not related to her psychosis or the slender Man delusions. 402 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: She said, well, this is a separate, ongoing process involving 403 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: male pronouns and all of this. But this, she emphasized, 404 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: did not influence Geyser's stability or her ability to be 405 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: eased into supervised group home activities coming up next. This 406 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: deliberately ignores the available science. There is a very strong 407 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: correlation between schizophrenia and trans ideology. Welcome back to the 408 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: Dano Donald's show. Happy Holidays this Thanksgiving week. And yes, 409 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: I say Happy Holidays because I'm saying Happy Thanksgiving, Mary Christmas. 410 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: So we are in the Christmas spirit here on the 411 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnells Show. So we are starting all Christmas music 412 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: this week, primarily because I'm going to miss half of 413 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: next week because I have to travel down south of 414 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: the border down Mexico Way for my brother's wedding. So 415 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the failures of the Evers administration in failing to notify 416 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: the public, and especially especially the family of the original 417 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: slender Man stabbing victim, that Morgan Geyser the one who 418 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: actually did the stabbing. Remember back at trial, it was 419 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: determined that it wasn't the two girls, Anisa Wyer and 420 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Morgan Geyser actually stabbed the girl. And I know the 421 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: girl's name has been public for the better part of 422 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: a decade. I just see no need to keep dragging 423 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: her name into this. She is the innocent victim of 424 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: this true sociopath and her accomplice. It was Geyser who 425 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: actually did the stabbing, so she got a much more 426 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: serious sentence than did Anissa Wire. The fact that nobody 427 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: was notified for twelve hours is a huge, huge mistake. 428 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Attorney General Josh Call needs to own up to it. 429 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Needs to explain exactly why the Department of Corrections. Governor 430 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: Evers needs to own up to exactly why the Department 431 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: of Corrections was apparently not sufficiently staffed on Saturday night 432 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: to notify anybody that a dangerous mental patient who has 433 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: been convicted of attempted murder or at least found liable 434 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: for attempted murder when she was twelve years old, and 435 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: has admitted straight through to twenty twenty three to still 436 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: having violent, delusional hallucinations that she was on the loose, 437 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: that she was just gone for twelve hours. We have 438 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: no idea that one of the most infamous violent people 439 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin is gone now. The thing that nobody wants 440 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: to talk about in the Morgan Geyser escape is the 441 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: thing that actually might be the most relevant detail here 442 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: in serving to prove that Geyser still was a dangerous individual, 443 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: that she still was suffering from serious schizophrenia. And that 444 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: is the fact that at some point in late twenty 445 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: twenty four, actually about May of twenty twenty four, she 446 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: began identifying as a male. She adopted a male name 447 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: even though she's a biological female. She cut her hair short, 448 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: she started wearing breastbinders at her appearances before mental health evaluators. 449 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: She used him pronouns. Never before was this ever documented. 450 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: She just decided that she is going to identify as 451 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: a biol logical male, and one of the three evaluators, 452 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: doctor Brooke Lumbom, the consulting psychologist who was testifying at 453 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: her conditional release hearing last January, said well, this has 454 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: nothing to do with her schizophrenia. It is a separate, 455 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: ongoing process in which she is discovering herself. Well, this 456 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: ignores decades of informal observations by mental health professionals and 457 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: at least fourteen years of very very well documented studies 458 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: and cohorts of scientists who are who are absolutely demonstrating 459 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: that there is a very serious correlation between schizophrenia and 460 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: trans ideology. In twenty eleven, there was a total population 461 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: cohort out of Sweden, meaning they basically study the entire 462 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: population of Sweden and found transgender individuals had schizophrenia diagnoses 463 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: at about ten times a higher rate than aged, matched 464 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: control samples. Eleven years later, study at the London Gender 465 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Clinic in twenty twenty two, seven point eight percent of 466 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: adult referrals to this gender clinic had a pre existing 467 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: psychiatric or psychotic disorder, most of those were on the 468 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: schizophrenia spectrum. Compared that to zero point seven percent in 469 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: the UK population, So there is an incidence of zero 470 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: point seven percent of the general population of the United 471 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Kingdom of Schizophrenia. Seven point eight percent of the people 472 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: who are going to this gender clinic had a pre 473 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: existing psychotic disorder. Most of it is schizophrenia. That is 474 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: a massive, massive increase in the general population. In the 475 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three release of the Journal Schizophrenia Bulletin, there 476 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: is a quote pooled prevalence of gender dysphoria in schizophrenia 477 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: in patients that is eight point four percent. So people 478 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: who are being treated in a psychiatric hospital or mental 479 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: health facility of some sort, eight point four percent of 480 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: them are suffering from gender dysphoria, i e. Believe they're 481 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: the opposite gender, believe that they are not born in 482 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: the right body, that sort of thing. That is fourteen 483 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: times the prevalence of the general population. Then last year 484 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: there is a two year forensic cohort out of Spain. 485 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: Once again we find fourteen point eight percent of male 486 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: schizophrenia spectrum patients in maximum security units identified as transgender 487 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: women sixty eight out of four hundred and sixty people. 488 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: Only four percent of non psychotic offenders did so. Once again, 489 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: you are seeing a massive increase in the number of 490 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: people who are suffering from schizophrenia or who are on 491 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: the schizophrenia spectrum and who also identify as transgender or 492 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: have gender dysphoria of some sort than in the general population. 493 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: There is a huge elevated risk of schizophrenia amongst transgender 494 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: individual that is five to twenty times that of the 495 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: general population. In secure settings such as mental health facilities, 496 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: group homes, that sort of things, there is an eight 497 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: to fifteen percent prevalence of trans gender ideology or gender 498 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: dysphoria amongst people with schizophrenia. To say that there is 499 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: no correlation whatsoever is either willfully dishonest or, in my 500 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: humble opinion, it is politically correct because nobody wants to 501 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: talk about the obvious, massive elephant in the room. If 502 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: you truly believe that you are the wrong gender, if 503 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: you truly believe that you need to cut off your 504 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: sex organs in order to be happy, there is something 505 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: very seriously psychologically wrong with you. This isn't judgmental. This 506 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: is simply stating what medical science has known for a 507 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: long time. And to pretend that there's no correlation between 508 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: serious psychotic illness, especially schizophrenia, and transgender ideology or gender 509 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: dysphoia or anything else is dangerous. And it is my 510 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: very strong suspicion that had the evidence actually be presented, 511 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: had it actually been presented, that hey, there is this 512 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: massive correlation between transgender ideology and schizophrenia, and since all 513 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Morgan Geyser is identifying as trans, maybe 514 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: this is evidence that she's only pretending that her schizophrenia 515 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: is waiting. Remember it was only within the last six months, 516 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: just within the last six months before she was released, 517 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: where psychologists who are treating her were saying, oh my goodness, 518 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: she is doing so well, and look at this. She 519 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: can absolutely be released. Absolutely she can be put into 520 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: a group home. The idea that we are placating dangerous 521 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: people by feeding into what very likely could be a 522 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: schizophrenic delusion that they're actually supposed to be a different 523 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: gender is having very, very very serious consequences. We're going 524 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: to get into this again in the four o'clock hour 525 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: plus the Daily Trump Date, we check in with Dave 526 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Spano and much much more. Just three days until Thanksgiving 527 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and we are celebrating here on the 528 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. We used to try to have Thanksgiving 529 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: themed bumper music, but then realized that outside of what 530 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: you just heard, which is It's Thanksgiving by Nicole Westbrook. 531 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: It was a viral sensation about a decade ago because 532 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: of how bad a song it was, but we turned 533 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: it into our unofficial Thanksgiving anthem here on the Dan 534 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: o'donald show. Outside of that, over the River and through 535 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: the woods to Grandmother's House we go, And technically jingle 536 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Bells was originally a Thanksgiving song. A little bit of 537 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: Christmas carol trivia for you there. There really are not 538 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot of Christmas songs. Really, Halloween and Christmas 539 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: are the only two holidays that have their own soundtrack. Yes, 540 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: obviously the fourth of July pretty much anything patriotic will go, 541 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: and anything by John Phillips SUSA, any March he ever wrote, 542 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: sounds great on the fourth of July. But in terms 543 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: of holiday music, very very difficult to find. Easter songs 544 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: very very difficult to find. Well, Saint Patrick's Day pretty 545 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: much anything Irish will do there. But you try to 546 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: find yourself a song for Arbor Day, it's difficult. Now, 547 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: we do have an open call for Christmas carols performed 548 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: by the children and grandchildren of our listener family. Record, 549 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: a video, record an MP three or audio of your kid, 550 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: your grandkid aged eighteen, high school senior and under, singing 551 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: a Christmas carol, playing one on their musical instruments, to 552 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: together with a friend, with a brother and sister. Whatever. 553 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: You've got multiple kids and you want to submit all 554 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: of them, go right ahead, Please do. Just make it 555 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: two minutes or under and email it Todd at iHeartMedia 556 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: dot com to be a part of our twenty twenty 557 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: five Dan O'Donnell show Family Christmas Special, which is going 558 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: to premiere December twenty third right here on this radio show. 559 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: It will also air as part of our Christmas Eve 560 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: and Christmas Day programming throughout the day on both of 561 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: those days. It is a musical celebration of the most magical, 562 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: most wonderful time of the year, starting starring rather the 563 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: children and grandchildren of our listener family. Please do keep 564 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: those entries to two minutes or under. If you are 565 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: the director or lead of a choir or school or church, 566 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: orchestra or band, we would love to submit an audio 567 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: or video of your performance. It is not a video show. 568 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: It is just going to be an audio show that 569 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: is going to air starting December twenty third. It's going 570 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: to run two hours, but as a result of that, 571 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: we have very limited time. We can only guarantee the 572 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: first fifty entries will be accepted, and you have a 573 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: deadline of December twelfth, So please do get those entries 574 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: in as quickly as you can. Email them. Todd at 575 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia dot Com time once again at about four o'clock 576 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: for your daily Trump Day. 577 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired 578 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: of winning. 579 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: Tump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration. 580 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: It's also a big win for the United States. 581 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. 582 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: We have to win more. 583 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna win more. And it was a holiday themed 584 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: day at the White House today. First Lady mat Trump 585 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: welcoming the official twenty twenty five White House Christmas Tree 586 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: on the North Portico today. It's a twenty five foot 587 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: Conkalore fur sourced from Corson's Tree Farms in Michigan. The 588 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: tree will soon take center stage in the White House's 589 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Blue Room. This says the White House today introduced to 590 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: turkeys who could be pardoned in the annual tradition, and 591 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: you can actually pick which turkey gets parted either Gobble 592 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: or Wattle by texting the word gobble or texting the 593 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: word wattle to four five four seven zero before midnight tonight. 594 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: What is this like the ancient gladiators? You get to 595 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: determine which one of these turkeys dies. I'll give you 596 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: a little spoiler. President Trump is going to pardon both turkeys, 597 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: Gobble and Wattle, who are going to live out their 598 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: days on a farm. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy touting cheaper 599 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: gas prices as people head out for the Thanksgiving holiday this. 600 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 5: Travel season by by car. We have incredible gas prices 601 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 5: on average three point two cents a gallon, So if 602 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 5: you're going to travel by car, you're gonna be able 603 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 5: to put gas in your vehicle at a very affordable price. 604 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 5: On top of that, if you're flying and you need 605 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 5: to run a car domestically, our car rountal prices are 606 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 5: down by fifteen percent. So it feels very good where 607 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: we sit with the President's economy and what is done 608 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 5: with regard to his energy independence push and energy dominance push. 609 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: And that's being reflected in the share volume of expected 610 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: travelers this week, a record breaking eighty one point eight 611 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 1: million Americans are traveling for Thanksgiving this year, up one 612 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: point six million from last year. That marks the busiest 613 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: holiday travel period in US history. Nearly not ninety percent 614 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: of all travelers, about seventy three million in total, will 615 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: drive at least fifty miles from home between Tomorrow and 616 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 1: the following Monday, while six point one million are expected 617 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: to fly domestically. That is a two percent increase from 618 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: last year. Secretary of State Marco Rubio today leading a 619 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: high level delegation in Geneva, engaging in what he described 620 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: as the most productive and meaningful discussions yet on President 621 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: Trump's twenty eight point plan to end the Russian War 622 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: in ukra. 623 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 6: We had a very good dag thing. I think we 624 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 6: made a tremendous amount of progress, even from the last 625 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 6: time I spoke to you, and I apologizing for keeping 626 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 6: you waiting with those more work to be done. You know, 627 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 6: we began almost three weeks ago with a foundational document 628 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 6: that we socialized and ran by both sides and with 629 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 6: input from both sides. And one of the things that 630 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 6: happens when you've been involved in this now for ten 631 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 6: months is you've got a pretty good sense of what 632 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 6: the priorities and the red lines and the important issues 633 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 6: are for both sides, and so that allowed us to 634 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 6: create a foundational document, which has been an ongoing working document. 635 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 6: In fact, over the last ninety six hours or more, 636 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 6: there's been extensive engagement with the Ukrainian side, including our 637 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 6: Secretary of the Army and others being on the ground 638 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 6: in Kiev, meeting with relevant stakeholders across the Ukrainian political 639 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 6: spectrum in the legislative branch and the executive branch and 640 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 6: the military and others to further sort of narrow these points. 641 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: Ukraine does have a deadline of Thanksgiving Day this Thursday 642 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: to respond to the proposal. Rubio is expressing optimism for 643 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: what he calls a just and lasting peace, signaling a 644 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: potential breakthrough after months of stalemate. A federal judge has 645 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: tossed out the indictments to both former FBI Director James 646 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: Comy and New York Attorney General Letitia James, citing a 647 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: violation of federal law in the appointment of interim US 648 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: Attorney Lindsay Halligan. We will have much more on this 649 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: coming up in the Dan O'Donnell show, because this is 650 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: just the latest in an intentional misreading of federal law 651 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: by district court judges intended not to justly uphold the 652 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: rule of law, but to rather weaponize the judiciary against 653 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 1: the executive branch. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been your 654 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: daily Trump date. We check in now with Dave Spono, 655 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: who is the CEO of Annex Wealth Management, to help 656 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: you know the difference and navigate what has been Dave 657 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: over the last three weeks about the most incomprehensible market 658 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: I think I have ever seen. We have a whole 659 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of fear. We have a whole lot of greed. 660 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: When what was it Warren Buffett said, when everyone is fearful, 661 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: be greedy. When everyone is greedy, be fearful. Well, we 662 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: have had the entire gamut of emotion, sometimes within the 663 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: span of a day. When in video releases it's earnings, 664 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: just a massive blowout, earnings beating the street expectations by 665 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: three percent, we have a huge rally in the morning, 666 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: and by the afternoon all those gains are given back 667 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: and we end up significantly down for the day. Well, 668 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: we opened up the shortened Thanksgiving trading week up this 669 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: week based on what exactly I can't figure it out, 670 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: can you. 671 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, sir. 672 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 7: There was a couple of things that happened over the 673 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 7: last couple of days. Most importantly, the New York Fred 674 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 7: Fed President John Williams had said, boy, we really need 675 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 7: that rate cut. 676 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 3: That was not going to happen. 677 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 7: So there's the poly market, you know, betting odds of 678 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 7: what the Fed is going to do. Last week, it 679 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 7: was all the way down to about thirty percent that 680 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 7: the Fed was going to cut rates. Today nearly seventy 681 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 7: five percent spiking on what that Fed president said. And 682 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 7: so that certainly changed the demeanor of the market last week. 683 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 7: And so we did have a good on Friday and 684 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 7: again today on Monday. But the other thing that happens, 685 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 7: Dan is you get you have this seasonality that begins 686 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 7: this week, Thanksgiving week. And it's really not because of 687 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 7: Black Friday, because you know, in the past, Dan used 688 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 7: to go with the overcoat, overs pajamas on Friday morning 689 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 7: to look for the for the doorbuster deals and you know, 690 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 7: watch ladies. 691 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 3: Push each other over. 692 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Actually, you know, twenty twelve, twenty twelve, I beat a 693 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: man to death with a crowbar just to get a 694 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: TV that was forty five percent off. It's not something 695 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm proud of. No, no, no, no, no, you know 696 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: what what it is actually funny, it's actually funny. I 697 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: don't want to derail you. I was at Target today. Okay, 698 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm at Target with my daughter and we had to 699 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: pick up our curing coffee maker just totally died, so 700 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: we had to get another one because. 701 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm mine too, mine too, I actually need to do that. 702 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: You got to be kidding me. Six months, six months. 703 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, longer than that. 704 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: I called them because the warranty, and they say, okay, well, 705 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: we know you purchased your carriage six months ago. Here, 706 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: you know you have the serial number on the product. 707 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: You need the receipt from the store that you bought. 708 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's been six months. I don't have the 709 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: damn receipt. So I just said, ah, you know what, 710 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out and buy another one. And 711 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: I was there and they were advertising that they are 712 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: going to give out gift bags to the first one 713 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: hundred people who are in line, gift bags filled with 714 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: like Christmas you know, treats or something like that. Could 715 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: you have imagined that Dave fifteen years ago, during the 716 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: height of the craziness on Black Friday. It just goes 717 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: to show you how much Amazon dot Com and online 718 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: retailing has just taken over and the dire straits even 719 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: very successful retailers like Target are when they need to 720 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: bribe people to show up on Black Friday. 721 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly right. So there isn't these you know, 722 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 7: crow bar beating deaths anymore, which is. 723 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, it is a shame because I happened to 724 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: enjoy reporting on all the madness. We used to do. 725 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: It was a recurring segment on on Black Friday, and 726 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: I would play all of the reports of like people 727 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: beating each other in line, and we'd set it to 728 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: it's the most wonderful time of the year. I had 729 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: so much fun doing that. And I actually used to 730 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: go real late at night after we would get done 731 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: with Thanksgiving dinner and everything, like midnight one am. I 732 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: would I would take my kids and it was always 733 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: very we go to Target or Walmart or something like that. 734 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 7: They watched day they were actually six. 735 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: My six year old actually jumped on just to make 736 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: sure he was dead. 737 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 6: Uh. 738 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: And now Child Protective Services is coming to the O'Donnell 739 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: house Monday. 740 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 7: That's exactly why cyber Monday people don't have to go 741 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 7: through it. They get the same deal, and so that 742 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 7: is a big part of it. So seasonality as well 743 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 7: as the FED changing, both those things are leaning into 744 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 7: this change. And as we get into the end of 745 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 7: the year, you're going to you know, you're going to 746 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 7: know that some of this information that's coming out is bearish. 747 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 7: For example, we had the best earning season in the 748 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 7: last four years. You don't see that being talked about. 749 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 7: So you put all of those together with the fact 750 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 7: that next year and liberals in the crowd are not 751 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,959 Speaker 7: going to like this. Estimates for GDP for next year 752 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 7: are five percent, so we haven't seen this. 753 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 3: It's a blowout from where we've. 754 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 7: Been and so all of these things together are setting 755 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 7: ourselves up. So I'm not surprised that the market is 756 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 7: fluctuating around. And why did that happen? You have to 757 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 7: go back that there was a bunch of reports that 758 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 7: we're not going to have enough energy to power all 759 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 7: of this AI that's coming down the road, and that 760 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 7: was in and you had all of the data centers 761 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 7: that weren't going to be up to capacity. 762 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 3: So all of that stuff unnerved the market over the 763 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 3: last three weeks. 764 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 7: I believe we got into an oversold category and that's 765 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 7: why you saw some of this money come in both 766 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 7: on Friday and today. And that is the reason why 767 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 7: we saw this this flip. And it's a bit manic, 768 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 7: I'd have to say, but that's the reason why you 769 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 7: cannot you cannot get yourself into these three week trading windows. 770 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 7: You have to make sure that the companies that you 771 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 7: own have fundamentals. You know, back in nineteen ninety nine 772 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 7: and two thousand, those dot com stocks didn't have fundamentals. 773 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 3: They did not have earnings. These companies do. 774 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 7: They have measurable earnings, they have measurable revenue. And that's 775 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 7: why it's a different trade today than it was in 776 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety nine. 777 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, what's actually kind of remarkable is 778 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: I forget, was it a buffet? He just bought a 779 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: bunch of Google. I saw that with one of his 780 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: last major moves before he steps down from Berkshire. But 781 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: what did he say? Google is the next Google? Or 782 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: somebody said, well Google is the next Google? And it 783 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: certainly is looking like that that these behemoths are just 784 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: acquiring AI companies and AI techlogy and you're seeing I mean, 785 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: the AI adjacent like in Vidia is just it's it's obvious. 786 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 3: Amazon. 787 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: Well yeah, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon's. 788 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 7: An million dollars contract, right, And think about the size 789 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 7: in Nvidia. I've mentioned this to you before. At a 790 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 7: market cap of five trillion dollars. That's the market Kevin 791 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 7: in Vidia, that is larger than the French, Great Britain 792 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 7: and German stock markets added together. 793 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 3: And so the size of these companies are just enormous. 794 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 7: And so that's the reason why it could, especially in 795 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 7: a cap weighted stock market where the biggest companies have 796 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 7: an overweighted value. 797 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 3: When they start to pull back, that is, you know, 798 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 3: all the whole entire indusitry gets hurt. 799 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: That's it. That's actually an excellent point. Like, just as 800 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: the Magnificent seven is basically artificially inflated the gains of 801 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 1: the stock market since what twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, 802 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: any slight pullback is going to have just massive downstream effects. 803 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, And that is why 804 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: I am so thankful that we have you on each 805 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: and every week. Hey, happy Thanksgiving, my friend to you 806 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: and everybody at Annex. By the way head to annexwealth 807 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,359 Speaker 1: dot com to get a clearer picture of your own 808 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: personal finances. I hope you and your wonderful family just 809 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: have a fantastic Thanksgiving. 810 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 3: Dave yes Sys, thank you, Dan to you and all 811 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 3: your listeners as well. Appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving. 812 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Here is Dave Spoto. I am Dan o'donald. We get 813 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: back to Morgan Geyser and the high correlation between schizophrenia 814 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: and trans ideology. The rest of the media is willfully ignoring. 815 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: That's coming up next, Conservative thought, not just talk. It 816 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: is the Dan o'donald Show, diving deeper into the issues 817 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: than anyone else in media. Instead of headlines, instead of slogans, 818 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 1: you get an actual understanding of what it is that's 819 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: going on. For example, we spent almost all of the 820 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour talking about the escape of Morgan Geyser, 821 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: one of the two slender Man stabbing suspects, who is 822 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: diagnosed with severe schizophrenia and as a result, was found 823 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: not guilty by mental disease or defect, basically the insanity 824 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: defense to charges of stabbing her friend nineteen times when 825 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: they were all twelve, in an effort to appease the 826 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: fictional character slender Man, so she could become his acolyte 827 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: and her co defendant, Anissa Wire would live happily ever 828 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: after with slender Man in the woods of Waukeshaw. We 829 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: here in Wisconsin all know the story. But how many 830 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: of us have actually been following all of the attempts 831 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: that Morgan Geyser has had to get out of the 832 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,760 Speaker 1: mental health facility that she has been living in since 833 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, since her conviction, well since she was found 834 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: to be you know, liable in the near homicide of 835 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: her twelve year old friend. Probably not many. How many 836 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: people also knew that she had declared herself to be 837 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: transgender during her most recent appeal to get out of 838 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: the mental health facility. She was supposed to be there 839 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: until she was fifty three years old. She got the 840 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: maximum forty year term. Instead she stayed for seven years 841 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: seven years for attempted first degree intentional homicide. Now does 842 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: this sound like justice? It absolutely does not. This is 843 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: why I vehemently disagreed with the not guilty by reason 844 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: of mental disease or defect finding when it happened, because 845 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: the standard there is does this person know that difference 846 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: between right and wrong. It's not just how crazy she is. 847 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, isn't it insane that she's stabbing her 848 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: friend because she wants to please Slenderman. Did she know 849 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: at the time she stabbed her friend that stabbing her 850 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: friend was wrong? Obviously she did. She and her co defendant, 851 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 1: Anissa Wire led the girl into the woods. They made 852 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: a conscious effort to cover up the crime. That in 853 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: and of itself is proof positive that she knew the 854 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: difference between right and wrong. She knew what she was 855 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: doing was wrong. She should have been sentenced to prison 856 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: for decades. Instead, she goes to a mental health facility 857 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: where she gets to petition over and over and over 858 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: for her release to a lower security group home, which 859 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: was finally and stupidly granted by Judge Michael Boren earlier 860 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: this year, And of course, over the weekend she cuts 861 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: off her electronic monitoring bracelet and escapes. Now people have 862 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: been pointing out that on social media, conservatives like me 863 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: have been saying, hey, she identified as trans which is 864 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: sort of an indicator that she's not totally mentally well. 865 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: And this case, I hope, is finally going to force us, 866 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: at least us here in Wisconsin to confront the reality 867 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: that liberals will not allow us to confront, and that 868 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: is that there is a very very pronounced correlation between 869 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: schizophrenia and transgender ideology. I mean, anybody, even people who 870 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: don't study psychology or really understand it, just kind of 871 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: know intrinsically, if someone believes that they're a boy, but 872 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: they're really born a girl, and in order to be 873 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: happy they need to cut off their male sex organ 874 00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: and surgically add a female sex organ, you sort of 875 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: know common sense would tell you that's not something a 876 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: sane person would do. But we now have a mountain 877 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: of evidence, study after study after study showing a very 878 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: strong correlation to the tune of ten to twenty times 879 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: higher incidents of transgender ideology or gender dysphoria in people 880 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: with schizophrenia. It is sort of another delusion. Nobody wants 881 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: to say it because we, because of political correctness, removed 882 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: gender dysphoria from the American Psychiatric Association's Journal of Classified 883 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: Mental Illnesses. It was up until about I think a 884 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: decade decade and a half ago, gender dysphoria was on 885 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: its own a mental illness, which which would make sense. 886 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: How can somebody possibly be happy. How can somebody possibly 887 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: be fully functioning if they hate the most basic IDENTI 888 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: to find characteristic about themselves. Their their gender, they're their sex. 889 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: And it's not just oh, okay, I want to dress 890 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: up as a girl. It's no, no, no, no no, 891 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: I need to live as a woman. I need to 892 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: have surgery. I need to permanently alter my body. Or 893 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: even worse, children, we need to pump kids full of 894 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: hormones so that they don't hit puberty. Are we insane? 895 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Morgan Geyser, identifying as trans should have told psychologists evaluating 896 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: her that she is still schizophrenic and yes, is still 897 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:45,959 Speaker 1: potentially very dangerous. We have just in the last year 898 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: three separate examples of people who either identified as transgender 899 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: or we're dating someone who identifies as transgender engaging in 900 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: a very high profile assassination, near assassination, or mass shooting. 901 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Back in January of twenty twenty five, this was a 902 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: case that just got completely buried. Right around the time 903 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: that Trump was first inaugurated, there was actually an attempt 904 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: to assassinate Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant in DC Ryan English, 905 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: twenty four years old transman was arrested with firebombs in 906 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: his possession. He was attempting to kill Bessant because he 907 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: was radicalized on Blue Sky and Reddit to believe that 908 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Besson's economic policies were anti LGBTQ plus. In late August, 909 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, August twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, mass shooting 910 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: at the Annunciation Catholic School, Robin Westman, twenty three years old, 911 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: who was born Robert Westman, a trans woman, shot and 912 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: killed two kids, injured eighteen other people, including fort teen children, 913 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and his manifesto referenced a fixation on mass shooters very 914 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: anti religious views. He had legally changed his name and 915 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 1: gender in twenty twenty and was very likely striking back 916 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: at the school where his mom worked because of the 917 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: fact that it would not support somebody like him. He 918 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: was very radical in his left wing pro LGBTQ views. 919 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Then September tenth, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Despite what 920 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Candice Owens or other bad faith or crazy themselves actors 921 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: might tell you, Charlie Kirk was very obviously killed by 922 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: a twenty two year old by the name of Tyler 923 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Robinson who was dating a transman by the name of 924 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Lance Twiggs, and texts between the two showed that he 925 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: was radicalized because of Charlie Kirk's views on lgbt Q. 926 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: Twiggs was the big influence on Tyler Robinson's politics, and 927 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: because it was so violent and radical, Robinson absolutely believed 928 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: that he had no other choice but to kill Charlie Kirk. 929 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: He said, there is some hate that you just can't 930 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 1: reason with, or I believe some hate that you just 931 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: can't argue out. Some form of that basic quote if 932 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: you want to go back even farther. March twenty seventh, 933 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Nashville, Tennessee, Covenant School shooting. Audrey Hale 934 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: born a woman but used he him pronouns. Identified as aiden, 935 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old, killed six people, three children and 936 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: three adults, and in a long buried manifesto that Hale wrote, 937 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: reference gender dysphoria and resentment towards quote the female gender role. 938 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Harvard again, radical left wing beliefs, and deep animosity towards religion, 939 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: specifically that school where she attended and was very likely 940 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: bullied because of who she was. June eighth, twenty twenty two, 941 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Now, 942 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: we didn't learn until earlier this year that the suspect, 943 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Nicholas Rosky, who now identifies as Sophie Roski twenty nine 944 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: years old, now is a trans woman. Roski pleaded guilty 945 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: this past April, and we learned in court filings at 946 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: about that time that he or she had an online 947 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: persona as a trans gamer girl. Instead of getting thirty 948 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: years with the which the Department of Justice recommended for 949 01:04:54,760 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: almost killing a sitting Supreme Court justice motivated by the 950 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: opposition to the draft opinion that leaked overturning Roe v. Way, 951 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,919 Speaker 1: DOJ wanted thirty years, he got eight. He got eight. 952 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: The family cited his mental health as well as his 953 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: trans identity in the overly lenient sentencing plea go all 954 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: the way back to May seventh, twenty nineteen, the STEM 955 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: School in Highland's Ranch, Colorado, one killed eight injured school 956 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: shooting sixteen year old Alec McKinney, one of two gunmen, 957 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: trans man. He and his accomplice, Devon Ericsson, both cited 958 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: bullying McKenny over the transidentity. In multiple journals that were 959 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: recovered by police, transgender individuals comprise about one percent or 960 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: less of the population. True gender dysphoria sufferers are a 961 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: tiny fraction of one percent In a staggering number of 962 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: the highest profile acts of violence that we have had 963 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: over the past six seven years, transgender people are overly represented. Now. 964 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Is this because there is a very strong correlation between 965 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: transgender ideology, gender dysphoria, and schizophrenia. Voices inside these already 966 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: violent and very mentally ill people inside their heads saying, Okay, 967 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: you've got to kill Brett Kavanaugh. You've got to kill 968 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk because your boyfriend Lance is being victimized by 969 01:06:51,440 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Kirk's rhetoric. People who deny this reality are I believe, 970 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: overrepresented in the criminal justice system and mental health systems, 971 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and as a result, they are putting lives at risk. 972 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is you have two different 973 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 1: professions attorneys, judges. The legal profession writ large overrepresented by liberals. 974 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Same thing with the mental health community who don't want 975 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: to admit the obvious. People who are transgender are suffering. 976 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: They are suffering, and they are lashing out often at themselves. 977 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 1: My goodness, the transgender Do you know what the suicide 978 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: rate amongst transgender people is right now, it's about forty percent, 979 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: four out of every ten people who identify as trans 980 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: will kill themselves at some point. Does it sound like 981 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: we're doing them any favors by refusing to treat the 982 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,919 Speaker 1: underlying issues, which is very likely schizophrenia, It's very likely 983 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: severe depression. It's very likely this homicidal or suicidal rage, 984 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: this need to lash out at broader society because they 985 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 1: perceive themselves to be victims, or because they are just 986 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: struggling so badly they don't know what else to do. Pretending, 987 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: as you did in the Morgen Geyser treatment, that her 988 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: gender dysphoria, her identifying suddenly as a man is totally independent. Oh, 989 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: she's cured of her schizophrenia. She's totally mentally she is fine. 990 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: She can be released to this group home. She doesn't. Oh, 991 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: by the way, she is suddenly identifying as a man, 992 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,719 Speaker 1: and her new name is Ethan. Everybody please meet Ethan. 993 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. And anybody who is serious 994 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: about this will cite any of the dozens of studies 995 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: that have found this. I can list them off again 996 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: if you want. But over the weekend we had because 997 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 1: of massive systemic failures in the Wisconsin criminal justice and 998 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: mental health systems. We had an entire population of the 999 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: state potentially in danger. Now it turns out all she 1000 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do was run away with her forty two 1001 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: year old I don't know love her boyfriend. I don't 1002 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: know who the hell this guy is, why he's paling 1003 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: around with a twenty three year old lunatic. In fact, 1004 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I am going to get my sources all over this 1005 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: to try to figure out who exactly this was. I'm 1006 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: a little embarrassed with myself that I wasn't actually able 1007 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: to figure it out by showtime today. Rest assured, I 1008 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 1: will get a name, I will get a backstory on this. 1009 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm willing to wager there is all manner of mental 1010 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: health issues with this guy as well. But the bottom 1011 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: line is that yet again, we just marked what on Friday, 1012 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 1: we marked four years since the Waukeshaw Parade massacre, where 1013 01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 1: someone was out, someone was amongst the general p populist 1014 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: who should not have been. You have someone who is 1015 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: amongst the general populists. Because it was very easy for 1016 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: her to cut off her electronic monitoring bracelet, because she 1017 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 1: wasn't in a maximum Security Mental health facility because she 1018 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: was apparently able to lie to these psychologists who couldn't 1019 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:26,440 Speaker 1: possibly equate her rather obvious schizophrenia with her transgender ideology 1020 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: because oh oh, that would be bigoted and hateful and awful. 1021 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: And you are listening to the Dan O'donnald's show. We'll 1022 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: be right back after this. Now, forgive me if I'm 1023 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: wrong about this, But have you heard any media outlet 1024 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: outside of this one, or possibly another conservative talk show 1025 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: host like Jay or Ben or Vicky McKenna call the 1026 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Evers administration to account for its Department of Corrections not 1027 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 1: notifying anybody that a danger is mental patient who had 1028 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: stabbed her friend nineteen times was on the loose, that 1029 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 1: had cut off her electronic ankle monitor and was taking 1030 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: off with some forty two year old man. Just look, 1031 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there was anything nefarious that the doc 1032 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: was helping her. I'm saying that it was a Saturday 1033 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 1: night at about nine to ten o'clock, and I'm taking 1034 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 1: a wild guess that there was not a single person 1035 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 1: who was manning the fort as it were, to take 1036 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 1: a report that someone had cut off the electronic monitor. 1037 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Why does it take two hours to say, hey Morgan, guys, 1038 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: we got an alert. So what happens is if there's 1039 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: tampering with the electronic monitoring, there's an alert that goes 1040 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: off that immediately goes to the Department of Corrections and 1041 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: a number of people at DOC are notified of this. 1042 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Was is everybody just out partying? Was everybody celebrating Wisconsin's 1043 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: big win over Illinois? I still maintain I posted on 1044 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 1: social media after that win. Are we really celebrating by 1045 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: storming the field after a win over? 1046 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 3: Yes? 1047 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I get it was be Lama. I get it was 1048 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: the second straight win over a ranked opponent in an 1049 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: otherwise dismal season. But to me, storming the field should 1050 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: be reserved for top five opponent defeat or better. That's 1051 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: just me. Maybe I'm old school, I know, I know. 1052 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Let the kids have their fun. Whatever, Why was nobody notified? 1053 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: It takes thirty seconds. You call over to the group 1054 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: home in Madison. Hey, did Morgan Geyser? Can you do 1055 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: a quick check on Morgan Geyser? Is she in her room? Oh, 1056 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,919 Speaker 1: the electronic monitoring is bracelet is off, and her window 1057 01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 1: is open. The curtains are blowing, and there's footprints leading 1058 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,599 Speaker 1: away from the building. Yet we should probably tell people 1059 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: about that. It took two hours apparently to verify that 1060 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: there was temper You know what that tells me? That 1061 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: tells me that nobody was paying attention to this alert 1062 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 1: until two hours after it initially came in, and then 1063 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,680 Speaker 1: they issue an internal doc warning that Morgan Geyser is 1064 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: on the loose. Nobody in the state knows about it 1065 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: for another twelve hours now. Fortunately, it seems that Morgan 1066 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: was sleeping over with her boyfriend or whomever this was, 1067 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: and they didn't actually try to leave this state until 1068 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon or Sunday evening, or maybe they were sleeping there. 1069 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have absolutely they took a bus, 1070 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 1: which tells me they don't actually have transportation, So I 1071 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: have no idea what they were doing from ten pm 1072 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 1: until they eventually tried to get on a bus and 1073 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: get down to one of the suburbs of Chicago, where 1074 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 1: they were eventually arrested at a truck stop. How does 1075 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: that happen? And more importantly, just as importantly at least, 1076 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: why is it that the Evers administration that the call 1077 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 1: do Josh Call wants a third term? As attorney general. 1078 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,919 Speaker 1: What is this systemic failure here? He's talking for years, 1079 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: he's railing on Brad Shimmel about the stupid rape kits. 1080 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: It turns out that in his first term, testing rape 1081 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: kits in Wisconsin dropped to an even slower rate than 1082 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: it was under Shimmel. And now we have dangerous, transgender, psychopathic, 1083 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 1: attempted murderers just walking away from their group homes and 1084 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 1: nobody knows about it. And yes, the idea that she 1085 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,719 Speaker 1: was allowed to trans transition from the mental health facility 1086 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 1: in Winnebago to this group home living in Madison, all 1087 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: while admitting it is in her documented reports from her 1088 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: failed attempts at getting a conditional release, that she knows 1089 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: how to play the doctors. She knows how to lie 1090 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: and to manipulate them into believing that she's totally better. 1091 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: She knows how. It's my very strong suspicion that she 1092 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:37,440 Speaker 1: was probably playing up her schizophrenia diagnosis and her symptoms 1093 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 1: to begin with because she didn't want to be convicted 1094 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: and have to go to prison for stabbing her friend 1095 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: nineteen times. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, schizophretic, schizophretic. I'm sure 1096 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,799 Speaker 1: her defense attorneys are telling her, Hey, uh, not guilty 1097 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: by reason of mental disease or defect. You can do this. 1098 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 1: Oh well, Dan, she was only twelve, thirteen, fourteen years 1099 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,600 Speaker 1: old when she's going through the criminal justice system. Believe me, 1100 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: as someone who has raised thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year olds. 1101 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 1: They know how to get out of trouble. They know 1102 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: how to They will lie directly to your face in 1103 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: order to get whatever is best for them. To pretend 1104 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,640 Speaker 1: that this girl of all girls is incapable of doing that. 1105 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,839 Speaker 1: Oh yes, she must be telling the truth about her treatment. 1106 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: She must be doing just fine, because she's telling her 1107 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: psychologists she's doing just fine. It's an absolute debacle from 1108 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,719 Speaker 1: start to finish, and I demand accountability from the Evers 1109 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Department for it. 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We're 1162 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: just going to give first name, age, and where they 1163 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: are from in order to identify them for friends and 1164 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:34,759 Speaker 1: family and loved ones. Here your child performing on the radio, 1165 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 1: debuting with the Dan O'Donnell Show Family Christmas Special on 1166 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 1: December twenty third at four pm and then playing throughout 1167 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,640 Speaker 1: the day, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on our flagship 1168 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: station News Talk eleven thirty WIS and again send a 1169 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:58,640 Speaker 1: video or audio recording Todd at iHeartMedia dot com. We 1170 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,960 Speaker 1: would love to have your kids star in the twenty 1171 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty five Dan o'donnald Show Family Christmas Special. We do 1172 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:11,280 Speaker 1: have some breaking news just into us regarding the arrest 1173 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 1: of Morgan Geyser, who is the slender Man stabbing suspect 1174 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 1: who walked away from her group home on Saturday night. 1175 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 1: She was arrested yesterday evening down in Illinois in Posen, Illinois, 1176 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 1: which is about twenty minutes south of Chicago, with a 1177 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 1: forty two actually forty three year old man whose name 1178 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:43,839 Speaker 1: is Chad Mecha. He has been identified by as Chad Mecha. 1179 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: This is reported by Denise Craig of Today's TMJ four, 1180 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the NBC affiliate in Milwaukee. Morgan Geyser, one of Tuwaukashaw 1181 01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 1: teenagers sentenced in the twenty fourteen slender Man stabbing, was 1182 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 1: arrested with a forty three year old man she reportedly 1183 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: met at church. According to newly obtained arrest reports, Posen 1184 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 1: police first approached Geyser and Chad Mecca for a welfare 1185 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 1: check after they were found sleeping behind Thornton's gas station 1186 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 1: at one four eight four oh Western Avenue in Posen. 1187 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 1: The report say they initially gave officers false names. When 1188 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: no information could be found for either name, officers asked again. 1189 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Geyser told police that if she gave them her information, 1190 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 1: she would never be able to communicate with her friend again, 1191 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,759 Speaker 1: and later told officers they could google her name Morgan 1192 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:47,759 Speaker 1: Geyser to find out who she was. Mecca eventually told 1193 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 1: officers his identification was in his backpack. In a police interview, 1194 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 1: Geyser said she met Mecca a couple of months earlier 1195 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 1: at Good Shepherd Church. She told authorities the group home 1196 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,679 Speaker 1: would not allow Mecca to visit her, so he would 1197 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: sneak in through her window to see her. So there's 1198 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 1: literally no security on her windows. A forty three year 1199 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: old man can just sneak in to this group home 1200 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: to look folks. I'm just gonna be honest with it. 1201 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: Why do you think this forty three year old man 1202 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 1: was sneaking into a twenty three year old woman's group 1203 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: home window at night? Guys Are admitted to police that 1204 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:41,600 Speaker 1: she cout off her ankle monitor with scissors. With scissors. 1205 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: These things are apparently so easy to cut off, you 1206 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 1: can cut them off with scissors, and had discussed traveling 1207 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,160 Speaker 1: to Nashville, Tennessee, with Mecca. When asked how they got 1208 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: to pose In, she said they took a Greyhound bus 1209 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin to Chicago, walked to the South Side, then 1210 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 1: took another bus to pose In, where they ran out 1211 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,560 Speaker 1: of money and stopped at the gas station. Mecha was 1212 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 1: charged with criminal trespass and obstructing identification. He was released 1213 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,719 Speaker 1: on a citation and a notice to appear in court. 1214 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Geyser was processed on a nationwide extradition warrant. She is 1215 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:22,559 Speaker 1: expected in court on Tuesday morning. Well, here's the thing. 1216 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: I actually did some digging on Chad Mecha and found 1217 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 1: that he has an acting restraining order or temporary restraining 1218 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: order TROO against him, which I am led to believe 1219 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 1: stems from a disorderly conduct domestic violence incident from earlier 1220 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, as recently as Halloween October thirty first, 1221 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,600 Speaker 1: so less than a month ago. There was activity in 1222 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 1: this temporary restrain order case. This outside of that, he 1223 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: was sued by a credit union for sixteen thousand dollars, 1224 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 1: So I'm taking a wild guess that he's significantly in debt, 1225 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: that he is some sort of low life himself. But 1226 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 1: in terms of crimes, all I could find was the 1227 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,600 Speaker 1: domestic violence. He had one charge dismissed, but read in 1228 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:35,600 Speaker 1: both were domestic abuse modifiers, which means if it's disorderly 1229 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 1: conduct that the officers or prosecutors can determine was done 1230 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: in the cause of domestic harassment or some sort of 1231 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: violent activity, they will actually make it a more severe 1232 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 1: crime didn't matter because it was not actually charged as 1233 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 1: a crime. It was a forfeiture, meaning it wasn't a misdemeanor. 1234 01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 1: It resulted in no jail time. And unfortunately, we're having 1235 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: major issues with my computer here. There's some issue with 1236 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 1: the internet, so I can't actually stream on the dan 1237 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 1: ocam and also surf the internet and try to look 1238 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 1: up the circuit court records of Chad Mecca. So I'm 1239 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: sort of doing this by memory from what I had 1240 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 1: up on my phone during that news break when TMJ four. 1241 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,599 Speaker 1: I've got to give credit where credit is due here, 1242 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 1: I am going with the report from today's TMJ four. 1243 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 1: That is where I'm getting all the information, including the 1244 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: name of the forty three year old suspect. He was 1245 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: originally identified as a forty two year old, but now 1246 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 1: we know him to be forty three year old Chad Meca, 1247 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 1: and I have no information about the nature of his 1248 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 1: relationship with Morgan Geyser outside of what I know from 1249 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,000 Speaker 1: the report from TMJ four and the fact that he 1250 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: apparently was peeking into her room and she met him 1251 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 1: at church. This certainly sounds like a dating romantic relationship. 1252 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 1: Now is Geyser still identifying as a man, or was 1253 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 1: that just to perhaps gain some sympathy so she could 1254 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 1: get out of her mental health facility and into this 1255 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,840 Speaker 1: group home where apparently there's no security whatsoever. She is 1256 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 1: allowed out. Apparently there are now stories that are appearing 1257 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: at jsonline dot com. I saw one on Fox six 1258 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 1: now dot com that neighbors of this group home were 1259 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 1: totally stunned that one of the most I mean, it's 1260 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: not as though that the crimes she committed was one 1261 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: of the most heinous in Wisconsin's istrael, though it very 1262 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 1: well could have been. I mean, they stabbed this girl 1263 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: nineteen times to try to kill her, But I dare 1264 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,640 Speaker 1: say she is one of the most notorious criminals in 1265 01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 1: recent Wisconsin history. I mean, this story was international, This 1266 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 1: was international news because of how twisted and deranged it was. 1267 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 1: And to think that somebody is seven years later completely fine. 1268 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, Morgan Guyser, she is totally normal, absolutely no 1269 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:32,559 Speaker 1: issues here. I've got to seriously question the credentials of 1270 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: the psychologists. There was apparently three psychologists who made this 1271 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 1: determination that she's safe to be released from a high 1272 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 1: security mental health facility to a group home. Where she's 1273 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 1: apparently allowed outings to church to go meet significantly older men, 1274 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 1: and there's such little oversight into what she's doing that 1275 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,639 Speaker 1: she's able to sneak this dude into her room without 1276 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: anybody noticing. Apparently this group home had no idea that 1277 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: she was gone for hours after they get the call. Hey, 1278 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Morgan Geyser appears to have been tampering with her electronic monitoring. 1279 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 1: The fact that you can just cut is this a 1280 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 1: normal thing. I've got a lot of people with law 1281 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 1: enforcement ties serving as sources and obviously listeners. Can somebody 1282 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: please explain to me, because I'll admit I've never been 1283 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,679 Speaker 1: on electronic monitoring, nor has anybody I know. I guess 1284 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,680 Speaker 1: I would have thought it was a little bit bulkier that, 1285 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, you couldn't just cut off with a scissors. 1286 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: I just there are so many questions about this case, folks. 1287 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I know I have spent the bulk of today's program 1288 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:55,440 Speaker 1: on this, but it just touches on so many things 1289 01:29:55,479 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 1: that are wrong with the criminal justice system, that are 1290 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 1: are wrong with just the liberal view of the world 1291 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 1: that oh, yes, yes she's trans, that has nothing that 1292 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,280 Speaker 1: has no impact on her mental state, whatsoever. It's totally 1293 01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 1: independent of her schizophrenia, say the psychologist who believe that 1294 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: she should be released. Literally eight months later, seven months later, 1295 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 1: she's just walking away from the group home. So now 1296 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 1: what's going to happen? She goes back to the mental 1297 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 1: health facility and in four or five years she runs 1298 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,639 Speaker 1: the same scam again. Oh yeah, no problems here. Oh 1299 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:44,559 Speaker 1: I'm totally rehabilitated thanks to you psychologists who are treating me. 1300 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 1: What a scam this is like if I in the 1301 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 1: radio business were able to give myself my own ratings. Oh, yes, 1302 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,960 Speaker 1: I did such a great job doing a radio show, 1303 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 1: so that I am going to say I got a 1304 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty five share. What am I supposed to say? Now 1305 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I failed? I only got a two share. What's the 1306 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 1: psychologist supposed to say? Yes, I failed. This person is 1307 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 1: even crazier than they were before. Or is it in 1308 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: the interest of them professionally to say, especially in the 1309 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 1: case of a high profile defendant like Morgan Geyser. Yes, 1310 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,759 Speaker 1: because of my work, I was able to fix Morgan Geyser. 1311 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,679 Speaker 1: I was able to get her to a point where 1312 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 1: she no longer wants to stab people for the slender Man. 1313 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,160 Speaker 1: But instead, she's going to meet a significantly older man 1314 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 1: identify as trans and then walk away from the group 1315 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,960 Speaker 1: home and be arrested twenty four hours later somewhere down 1316 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: in the Chicago Land area, panicking the entire state. And 1317 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,600 Speaker 1: really this was this was a nationwide man This was 1318 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 1: probably the biggest manhunt out of Wisconsin since Bambi Ben Benneck. Now, 1319 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 1: thank heavens, she and Chad Mecha are too mentally ill 1320 01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: or incompetent or it sounds like poor to be able 1321 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: to get out anywhere. They ran out of money after 1322 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,480 Speaker 1: two bus rides down to Chicago. This does not sound 1323 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,120 Speaker 1: like the most well financed, well thought out plot between 1324 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 1: two criminal masterminds here, thank heavens for that. What would 1325 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 1: have happened? And it sounds like they went totally peacefully 1326 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 1: A you know, google me is what she told officers. 1327 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 1: Google my name, You'll know who I am. What would 1328 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:51,280 Speaker 1: have happened if she was having an episode? Not to 1329 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:56,600 Speaker 1: say she would have, but I think the people of Wisconsin, 1330 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,640 Speaker 1: I think that the poor victim of the stabbing and 1331 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: her family at least have the right to know. And oh, 1332 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,080 Speaker 1: by the way, the Department of Corrections, the evers Department 1333 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 1: of Justice. Nobody from the state ever bothered to tell 1334 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,680 Speaker 1: the girl, now a young woman, or the family of 1335 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,519 Speaker 1: this young woman that, oh, by the way, hey, remember 1336 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,200 Speaker 1: that girl that stabbed you nineteen times and left you 1337 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:25,599 Speaker 1: for dead. Yeah, she's out and if we arrest her, 1338 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,400 Speaker 1: were probably just going to send her right back to 1339 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 1: this group home. So sleep tight. Oh yes, and she's 1340 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: had a twelve hour head start on law enforcement, so 1341 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,799 Speaker 1: she could literally be anywhere, including lurking outside your bedroom window. 1342 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 1: Hope that fills you with a lot of comfort. Sincerely, 1343 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 1: the Tony Evers Department of Corrections slash Department of Justice 1344 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 1: has Evers issued a statement about this it's the biggest 1345 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 1: story in America for twenty four hours. Has Josh Cole 1346 01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:01,720 Speaker 1: been asked to comment about the unbelievable incompetence of the 1347 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 1: doc I just it's I mean, if it's just me 1348 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 1: qualify they can ignore me. Well, it's it's some right 1349 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,840 Speaker 1: wing radio host, but of course nobody else in the media. 1350 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 1: They're just gonna trade. Oh, that's one of those things 1351 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: that happens. Oh golly, when you know, damn well, if 1352 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: it's next year or I guess a year and a half, 1353 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:35,240 Speaker 1: from now is Governor Tom Tiffany and Morgan Geyser escapes again. 1354 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 1: You think it's just gonna be one of those things 1355 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,520 Speaker 1: that happens, or do you think it's gonna be Attorney 1356 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,120 Speaker 1: General Eric Tony's fault and there's gonna be wall to 1357 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,800 Speaker 1: wall coverage about how incompetent Attorney General Eric Tony and 1358 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 1: whoever Governor Tiffany puts in charge of the doc It's 1359 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 1: the story's gonna be there incompetence, It's gonna be non 1360 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,720 Speaker 1: stop question. And you, folks, I know exactly how this 1361 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:08,839 Speaker 1: game is played, So don't pretend if you're a reporter 1362 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 1: with the State Journal or the Journal Sentinel looking at you, bise, 1363 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly how this game is played. I know 1364 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 1: exactly what the framing of every story would be, and 1365 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I know exactly why the framing of the story of 1366 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,200 Speaker 1: one of the most notorious defendants we have ever had 1367 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 1: in the state was just kind of able to waltz 1368 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,600 Speaker 1: away and get down to Chicago before anybody knew she 1369 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:40,360 Speaker 1: was gone. It's just it's mind boggling. And it's not 1370 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,759 Speaker 1: as though she, you know, she was just some nutso 1371 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 1: kid who was writing manifestos about wanting to shoot up 1372 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,360 Speaker 1: her school, which would be bad enough. She stabbed a 1373 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 1: girl nineteen times because she had some insane delusion that 1374 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the slender Man was going to kill her family if 1375 01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,640 Speaker 1: she didn't do it. But we're to be told that, 1376 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 1: oh well, just in the last six months she made 1377 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 1: a great recovery, just a miracle recovery. So she was 1378 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,919 Speaker 1: criminally psychotic. She was so schizophrenic that we couldn't possibly 1379 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 1: release her. From twenty fourteen through exactly midway through twenty 1380 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:25,640 Speaker 1: twenty four what changed, What miracle breakthrough happened in the 1381 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 1: last couple of months before she was released, that all 1382 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden she was perfectly fine to be released, 1383 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,639 Speaker 1: and then within seven eight months of her release into 1384 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:41,000 Speaker 1: apparently the least secure group home in the history of 1385 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:47,599 Speaker 1: secure group homes. She's escaping. She's just walking right out, 1386 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 1: or maybe she's going out her lover boy's window. I 1387 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,560 Speaker 1: remember growing up with a show when I was a 1388 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,240 Speaker 1: kid in the early nineties. There's a show called Clarissa 1389 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,559 Speaker 1: Explains It All where her best friend, a boy, would 1390 01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,320 Speaker 1: just kind of appear. This set was her window, and 1391 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,040 Speaker 1: he had a ladder and he would climb up to 1392 01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 1: her window and just kind of appear in the show. 1393 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 1: Max or Sam or something his name was. Clarissa explains 1394 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 1: it all homicidal weirdo edition. Please somebody explain to me. 1395 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,720 Speaker 1: I would love the director of the group home to 1396 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,160 Speaker 1: explain why nine to one one wasn't called until the 1397 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,439 Speaker 1: following morning. I would really love an explanation from the 1398 01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,960 Speaker 1: Department of Corrections as to why nobody was notified that 1399 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,719 Speaker 1: Morgan Geyser was gone until Sunday morning. I would really 1400 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: really like if I wasn't the only person in the 1401 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:44,960 Speaker 1: media in this state to ask that question. I'll tell you, 1402 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,639 Speaker 1: what do we What do you think, Producer Eric? Should 1403 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,479 Speaker 1: we open up the phones? There have been a lot 1404 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 1: of people texting in all day fine four one, four, seven, nine, nine, 1405 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 1: eleven thirty. I also want to get to this dismissal 1406 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,040 Speaker 1: of the Komy and Letitia James indictments. All that coming 1407 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:05,880 Speaker 1: up next. It is the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back 1408 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: to it. I'd love to read your text right now, 1409 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: but apparently we just don't have the Internet anymore. It's 1410 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 1: sort of like we're doing a radio show back in 1411 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, So we're gonna just move on. I'm 1412 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 1: sure there will be much more to talk about with 1413 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 1: respect to the great Morgan Geyser escape coming up. Federal 1414 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,479 Speaker 1: judge appointed by Bill Clinton, of course, with a long 1415 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,880 Speaker 1: record of donating to Democrat politicians, has thrown out the 1416 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: indictments of both former FBI Director James Comy and New 1417 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 1: York Attorney General Letitia James because of an alleged violation 1418 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:58,559 Speaker 1: of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, or FVRA, in the 1419 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:03,839 Speaker 1: way that President Trump and his Attorney General Pam Bondi 1420 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:09,759 Speaker 1: appointed Lindsay Halligan the interim US attorney for the Eastern 1421 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:19,720 Speaker 1: District of Virginia. The FVRA, codified as twenty eight USC. 1422 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 1: Section five forty six, provides that whenever a vacancy arises, 1423 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 1: the President or his Attorney General can appoint an interim 1424 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:36,599 Speaker 1: US attorney. They are, however, subject to a one hundred 1425 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: twenty day service limit, So you can't get around the 1426 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:45,240 Speaker 1: advise and consent power of the United States Senate by 1427 01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,800 Speaker 1: simply appointing an interim US attorney and then having them 1428 01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,120 Speaker 1: serve on a permanent basis, so they could only serve 1429 01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 1: for one hundred twenty days. Attorney General Pam Bondy exercise 1430 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: this authority. On September twenty second, twenty twenty five, the 1431 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 1: prior interim US Attorney, Eric Siebert, resigned because he wanted 1432 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 1: no part of prosecuting James Comey or Letitia James, or 1433 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 1: so he said. He resigned, and a couple of days later, 1434 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:26,640 Speaker 1: on September twenty second, Pam Bondi names Lindsay Halligan to 1435 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:33,720 Speaker 1: lead the prosecution to be the US attorney. What the 1436 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,840 Speaker 1: judge today found, Cameron Curry is the name of the 1437 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:45,160 Speaker 1: judge that because Eric Siebert was prior appointed, he was 1438 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:52,040 Speaker 1: previously appointed, his one hundred and twenty day interim appointment 1439 01:40:53,000 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 1: had lapsed. In other words, what Lindsay had was appointed 1440 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:05,559 Speaker 1: to phil was the original one hundred and twenty day 1441 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 1: appointment of Siebert. Therefore, because Halligan was not lawfully appointed, 1442 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,520 Speaker 1: because there was already a one hundred day interim appointment, 1443 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: it was not a valid appointment and as a result, 1444 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,719 Speaker 1: the indictments that she brought against both Comy and Letitia 1445 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:31,600 Speaker 1: James were null and void. Here's the problem with that, 1446 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 1: each new interim appointment restarts that one hundred and twenty 1447 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 1: day clock. The DOJ has long interpreted this statute to 1448 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:49,080 Speaker 1: mean just that, and prior application of the statute in 1449 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:55,320 Speaker 1: nearly identical cases has also proven this. Not only that 1450 01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:04,160 Speaker 1: federal courts have for decades held that a technical deficiency 1451 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:10,599 Speaker 1: in a vacancy filing does not nullify an action taken 1452 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:17,879 Speaker 1: by the de facto officer. Okay, so just because Halligan 1453 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 1: because there was a procedural defect in her appointment, that 1454 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that anything she did is null and void. 1455 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,559 Speaker 1: The most notable case of this comes thirty years ago, 1456 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:37,519 Speaker 1: Rider v. United States from nineteen ninety five. This actually, 1457 01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: in fact led to this case led to the enactment 1458 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:48,400 Speaker 1: of the relevant statute three years later. The Attorney General 1459 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:55,400 Speaker 1: has filled one hundred interim positions following an interim position 1460 01:42:55,479 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 1: without any invalidation from a court. So if you were 1461 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: to require the district court to intervene, and that's the 1462 01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,760 Speaker 1: prescribed remedy, after one hundred twenty days, the district court intervenes. 1463 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,160 Speaker 1: If the Senate just is not going to take up 1464 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,800 Speaker 1: a nomination, you go to the district court and say, 1465 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:20,840 Speaker 1: all right, hey, judge, Senate's not acting on this. We 1466 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,240 Speaker 1: have to ensure that the US Attorney's Office is able 1467 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,479 Speaker 1: to function. You need to step in and say we 1468 01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: get the interim appointment again, or we have to go 1469 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board and get somebody else. If 1470 01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:41,240 Speaker 1: you would require the District Court to intervene after every 1471 01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty day period, how could the DOJ function? 1472 01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,599 Speaker 1: This probably is going to be tested with the interim 1473 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:56,639 Speaker 1: appointment of Brad Schimmel as US Attorney for the Eastern 1474 01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:01,120 Speaker 1: District of Wisconsin. Remember, he was owned appointed on an 1475 01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:06,519 Speaker 1: interim basis because our Democrat Senator Tammy Baldwin, with no 1476 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:12,120 Speaker 1: possible reason other than partisan politics, refused to sign off 1477 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 1: on his nomination. Now, normally what this would result in. 1478 01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 1: It's called a blue slip. If she doesn't fill out 1479 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,240 Speaker 1: a blue slip, normally the nomination would die. 1480 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 3: Well. 1481 01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:29,600 Speaker 1: The Trump administration says Shimmel is eminently qualified. He was 1482 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 1: a district attorney, he was the Attorney general of the 1483 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,599 Speaker 1: state for eight years, and he was a sitting judge. 1484 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 1: How is he not qualified to be US attorney? Name me, 1485 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 1: how he is not qualified? 1486 01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:44,320 Speaker 6: Oh? 1487 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,599 Speaker 1: Oh, he ran He got a lot of money from 1488 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's political action committee when he was running for 1489 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. That that's the reason. All right, that's cute. 1490 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,720 Speaker 1: Now do Janet prot Sewitz and how much money she 1491 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:03,360 Speaker 1: took from reed Hoffman who is gallivanting around to Epstein Island. 1492 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,640 Speaker 1: The point is that the Trump administration said, we're not 1493 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:13,120 Speaker 1: playing this partisan game. Shimmel is the interim US attorney. 1494 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 1: Guess what They are not going to appoint him to 1495 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 1: a permanent basis. They're gonna have to keep going to 1496 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 1: the district court and saying Shimill needs to go for 1497 01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,080 Speaker 1: another interim appointment. And guess what the district court is 1498 01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,760 Speaker 1: going to say exactly what they said here, No, no, no, 1499 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,600 Speaker 1: no no. If it goes before loony Lynn Aedelman, the 1500 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,560 Speaker 1: eighty five year old left wing dinosaur who's currently presiding 1501 01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,639 Speaker 1: over the Hannah Dugan case, what do you think he's 1502 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna say is the exact same thing based on a 1503 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:52,360 Speaker 1: complete ridiculous misinterpretation intentional misinterpretation of the relevant statute. But 1504 01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:57,360 Speaker 1: this is sort of the point. Notice that neither Comy 1505 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,720 Speaker 1: nor Tish James actually were able to successfully challenge their 1506 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 1: indictments on the merits of them because both are very 1507 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,320 Speaker 1: clearly guilty of the crimes with which they're charged. They 1508 01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 1: had to go through this procedural thing, and this just 1509 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:19,439 Speaker 1: smacks of this judge Curry looking for whatever ruling she 1510 01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:24,640 Speaker 1: could find that would actually invalidate both indictments. Because this 1511 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 1: was just in the Komy case, but because Helligan also 1512 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:33,960 Speaker 1: brought the Tish James indictment, her ruling impacts that as well. 1513 01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:38,920 Speaker 1: The government should absolutely appeal this and appeal this instantly 1514 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,200 Speaker 1: because they're going to be successful on the merits. There's 1515 01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,679 Speaker 1: thirty years of case law behind this. But you get 1516 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:52,040 Speaker 1: the headline that, oh, Pam Bondi failed. Oh look at this, 1517 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,400 Speaker 1: Komy and Tish James walkfree, And most people, most of 1518 01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,800 Speaker 1: them poorly informed lefties, are going to say, oh, well, 1519 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,280 Speaker 1: the case fell apart because it was obvious political persecution, 1520 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,920 Speaker 1: because it was an obvious revenge prosecution. No, it fell 1521 01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:12,799 Speaker 1: apart because a judge is willfully and intentionally misapplying federal 1522 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 1: law in order to get to the outcome that she wanted. That, 1523 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,880 Speaker 1: in a nutshell, is precisely what's wrong with the judiciary 1524 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:25,160 Speaker 1: writ large. You know, one of the nice things about 1525 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 1: essentially being cut off from the Internet and doing a 1526 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,639 Speaker 1: show here, by the way, I want a little credit 1527 01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:37,080 Speaker 1: in case anybody thinks that, oh, Dan Jesse googles things 1528 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: really quickly. No, I've got a lot of this stuff 1529 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,160 Speaker 1: committed to memory. Yes, I do work from notes. But 1530 01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 1: one of the nice things about not having access to 1531 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,960 Speaker 1: the internet, not being able to see your texts, is 1532 01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't have to read all the people who are 1533 01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 1: complaining that we are already doing Christmas bumper music. Look, 1534 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,200 Speaker 1: I've been listening to Christmas music for the last like 1535 01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks, so I am fully in 1536 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,880 Speaker 1: the Christmas spirit, even though it is not yet thanks 1537 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 1: If we had a big tree trimming party at our house, 1538 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,800 Speaker 1: had the in laws and my dad over and had 1539 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,840 Speaker 1: a wonderful time decorating the tree. Yes, I've got all 1540 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,800 Speaker 1: of the Thank God, I put up all of the 1541 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,839 Speaker 1: outdoor decorations this past weekend when it was like fifty 1542 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,960 Speaker 1: degrees as opposed to next weekend, when it's going to 1543 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,639 Speaker 1: be a high of thirty on Thanksgiving and we may 1544 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,240 Speaker 1: have a massive amount of snow. They're talking about the 1545 01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:43,800 Speaker 1: possibility of a foot in northwestern Wisconsin tomorrow and we 1546 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,639 Speaker 1: may actually get snow. It's right at that freezing point 1547 01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 1: where a degree here, a degree there means we get rain. 1548 01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:57,400 Speaker 1: Or we get six inches. And this is where meteorologists 1549 01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 1: just absolutely hate it because they can say, all right, 1550 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,360 Speaker 1: well if we get you know, if it's thirty two degrees, 1551 01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 1: if it's thirty three degrees, we get zero snow. If 1552 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 1: it's thirty one degrees, we get eight inches of snow. 1553 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:15,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know, right, And that's where you've got 1554 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,360 Speaker 1: to give these folks a little bit of leeway. Although 1555 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 1: how bad would that be if over the weekend, not 1556 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,559 Speaker 1: only do you have Thanksgiving travel, but you've got a 1557 01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,479 Speaker 1: whole lot of people either going up or coming back 1558 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 1: from hunting, where you're just going to have a traffic 1559 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 1: nightmare across this system on Thanksgiving. So I'm hoping it 1560 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,599 Speaker 1: all comes down as rain, but I am looking forward 1561 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:50,400 Speaker 1: once again to a white Christmas. Yeah, we are also 1562 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 1: at my house. Well, you know what, maybe i'll tell 1563 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: that story tomorrow. We had a bit of a grooming 1564 01:49:55,479 --> 01:50:00,479 Speaker 1: emergency with the puppy. His fur. We couldn't get anybody 1565 01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,839 Speaker 1: to do haircuts, and the appointment was like six weeks 1566 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,559 Speaker 1: or whatever. His fur is so matted they had to 1567 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,720 Speaker 1: basically just shave it all off. But he was so 1568 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 1: agitated because he's a little puppy. He's not even five 1569 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 1: months old yet. Let's see he was born, Yeah, he's 1570 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:21,360 Speaker 1: five months old, and in fact he's five months old tomorrow. 1571 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 1: He's born June twenty fifth. He was I guess, biting 1572 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:30,320 Speaker 1: the groomer, so his whole body is basically shaved. But 1573 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't get his paws or his face because he 1574 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,520 Speaker 1: was so aggressive. So we need to find another groomer 1575 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 1: who is willing to put his or her personal safety 1576 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:51,680 Speaker 1: at risk by a four pound teddy bear puppy. So 1577 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,840 Speaker 1: my daughter, I am eager to look at and see 1578 01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:57,120 Speaker 1: when I get home, would but they sent pictures and 1579 01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,920 Speaker 1: I said, it doesn't look that bad and to it, 1580 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,320 Speaker 1: which my wife responded, Oh, it looks much worse in person. 1581 01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,200 Speaker 1: He's going to look quite weird for the holidays. So 1582 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,280 Speaker 1: if there's anybody out there who is or who knows 1583 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,439 Speaker 1: a pet groomer and could do an emergency grooming on 1584 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,360 Speaker 1: a dog who is going to freak the freak out 1585 01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:21,000 Speaker 1: on you, please email me DoD at iHeartMedia dot com 1586 01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:25,839 Speaker 1: and I will absolutely make it worth your while, because 1587 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:32,200 Speaker 1: apparently Buddy is looking a little odd this holiday. We're 1588 01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,360 Speaker 1: going to wrap things up here on the Dan o'donald 1589 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:39,240 Speaker 1: Show when we return, stay tuned. Well, Hey, big thanks 1590 01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 1: to loyal listener John, great friend of the program and 1591 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 1: a very close personal friend as well, for recommending a 1592 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: groomer who is potentially willing to put her life on 1593 01:51:54,600 --> 01:52:00,639 Speaker 1: the line in fixing my four pound teddy bear puppy 1594 01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 1: who apparently freaked out on the groomer today. His hair 1595 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,479 Speaker 1: was just so matted apparently that they had to shave 1596 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 1: much of it off, which poor little guy. He's going 1597 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,080 Speaker 1: to be wearing Christmas sweaters pretty much from now until 1598 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:24,160 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, and his hair grows so fast that within 1599 01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,599 Speaker 1: two weeks he's going to be somewhat fluffy once again. 1600 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,840 Speaker 1: But they were not able to do his face or 1601 01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:36,519 Speaker 1: his paws because he just started biting like a little 1602 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:41,919 Speaker 1: demon straight out of hell. So I will be calling 1603 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,599 Speaker 1: her to see if she'll be able to help out. 1604 01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 1: And thank you. I apparently just I had to shut 1605 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:54,880 Speaker 1: down the danocam. We just had a catastrophic internet collapse 1606 01:52:54,960 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 1: in here. So fortunately it's a short week and I 1607 01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:05,479 Speaker 1: think tomorrow, hopefully we should have everything running smoothly once again, 1608 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,880 Speaker 1: from computers to you know, dog fur and all of that. 1609 01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,519 Speaker 1: Packers were firing on all cylinders yesterday. I think the 1610 01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:17,519 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the Packers win over the Minnesota Vikings 1611 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:23,200 Speaker 1: is that JJ McCarthy is a bad quarterback. This guy 1612 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,280 Speaker 1: has bust written all over him. And what does it 1613 01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:33,600 Speaker 1: say about the Vikings' decision makers that not only do 1614 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,720 Speaker 1: they let Sam Darnald walk and Donald is looking like 1615 01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:41,479 Speaker 1: an absolute beast in Seattle, but they also say to 1616 01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who up until he got hurt, was having 1617 01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,639 Speaker 1: a great season in Pittsburgh, he'll probably be back next week, 1618 01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,599 Speaker 1: they said to him, thanks, but no thanks. All Right, 1619 01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:54,160 Speaker 1: we are out of time here on the Dan. O'donald's 1620 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: show back tomorrow with yes, more holiday fun and more 1621 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 1: conservative thought, not just talk. Have yourselves a wonderful evening, Wisconsin,