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Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy Marty Gray, everybody Fat Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It's the DBA Morning Show. This is the band check

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Speaker 2: your bucket, Pittsburgh's own. They're playing tonight at the Pittsburgh Winery,

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Speaker 2: the original Pittsburgh Winery on Penn Avenue in the Strip District.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a Marty Gus celebration, you won't

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Speaker 2: do better than this one.

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Speaker 3: I'd go out to night.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just groove and dancing and you know,

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Speaker 2: get your beads on and get after it.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow it all comes to an end.

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Speaker 2: Ash Wednesday, you go get your ashes and for forty

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Speaker 2: six days.

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Speaker 3: Tind to suffer.

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Speaker 2: Suffer for forty six days, but at least we'll be

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Speaker 2: thawing out abby. Yeah, because the weather has now turned

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Speaker 2: enough that the snow seems to be here for only

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Speaker 2: a short time longer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's fifty seven for a high today.

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Speaker 4: By Thursday it's going to be sixty one and it's

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Speaker 4: just raining the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so I was up in Eerie over the

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Speaker 2: weekend where it was still cold enough. We had the

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Speaker 2: President's Day weekend, the long weekend, and we walked out

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Speaker 2: on the Bay on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's about two and a half feet thick.

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Speaker 2: Had the dog out there. There's hundreds of people and

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Speaker 2: there's shanties all over the place. And then we went

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Speaker 2: over and saw the ice dunes on the beach side

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Speaker 2: where they have you know, the waves hit and then

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Speaker 2: when you get that sub zero weather until the lake freezes,

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Speaker 2: it just forms ice dunes as the waves come in.

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Speaker 2: Then they get to be about twenty feet high, and

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Speaker 2: then when the big freeze continues, those ice dunes just

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Speaker 2: freeze like big solid you know, the structures over looking

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Speaker 2: the lake where the waterline would be basically, but if

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Speaker 2: you climb on them, because they're very climbable, it looks

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Speaker 2: so fun, like you want to run up there and

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Speaker 2: get a twenty foot high vantage point of everything.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they can crack and you can fall in.

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Speaker 2: Now it will droned dangerous because it's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: only probably waist high at that point, but you have

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Speaker 2: to get rescued a lot of times because you're like

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Speaker 2: under ice and stuff like that and pardoning. We walked out,

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Speaker 2: there's dozens of people climbing on them, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: this is a not smart thing to do, but you know,

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Speaker 2: human nature. I get it. There's signs everywhere don't don't

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Speaker 1: Uh. So I told my brother. I was like, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I stayed away from the dude.

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Speaker 2: We walked around the dunes so we didn't get up

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Speaker 2: on him or anything. And then but we walked out

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Speaker 2: on the bay and he was like, uh, when did

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Speaker 2: you do that?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Saturday. And then he sent me

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Speaker 1: an article someone that night fell through the bay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's like when as soon as it starts warming

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Speaker 2: up like this, it can the frost pretty quick. So

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Speaker 2: I think we're past the point where anybody would be

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Speaker 2: silly enough to try to walk on whatever remaining ice

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Speaker 2: there might be on the river.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot on the Alleghany or

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Speaker 1: the man So.

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Speaker 4: We're all talking last week about don't go on the

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Speaker 3: Then you were on the dunes.

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Speaker 2: Well I wasn't on the news, but I was. Bay

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Speaker 2: doesn't move like rivers. I mean, it's different.

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Speaker 4: True, that's true. There's not a rushing river underneath.

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Speaker 1: No, it's completely different.

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Speaker 2: And my buddy had his shanty and he was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: you should if I don't have known you were there.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I would have because I was not far

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Speaker 2: from where he was. He's like, you gotta come in

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Speaker 2: and watch some Perch TV with me.

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Speaker 3: Perch TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because in your shanny, you set up your

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Speaker 2: little you know, you put the hole in and then

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Speaker 2: you drop a camera down now with your line, and

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Speaker 2: you have a monitor so you don't have to sit

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Speaker 2: on with the stick. You know, it's the stick the

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Speaker 2: pole in your hand, you know, like you can watch

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Speaker 2: if there's fish near. And he says he's just sitting

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Speaker 2: in there, drinking beers, know, hanging out and he's watching

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Speaker 2: Perch TV.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that actually sounds delightful.

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Speaker 4: It kind of does. As we get older, it's more

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Speaker 3: And fish and bones.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of to that point now think I think

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Speaker 2: I think my brain is finally settled down enough that

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Speaker 2: I can get back into fishing.

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Speaker 1: I think you well, if it involves a TV.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, and you can scroll on the right side

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Speaker 2: of it, right exactly can be on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: There's comments from other fish.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are racist for some reason, just so

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Speaker 2: it feels like home.

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Speaker 1: Who knew carp were like that.

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Speaker 3: They don't believe in vaccine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Anyhow, back from the President's Day weekend and it is

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Speaker 2: Fat Tuesday and we're eating our King cake here in studio.

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Speaker 3: I love that you actually did it.

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Speaker 1: It's got a baby.

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Speaker 3: It's got a weird looking baby.

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Speaker 2: All kin cakes have a baby. That's part of it.

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Speaker 2: It represents the baby. Jesus, you're so don't eat it,

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Speaker 2: and and and he's selling them.

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Speaker 4: They're pretty good, yes, but you're supposed to The king

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Speaker 4: cake is supposed to be baked into it so that

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Speaker 4: when baby is supposed to be the kingcake, someone gets

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Speaker 4: it in their slice and then that is the person

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Speaker 3: Extra good luck.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and they're king for the day.

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Speaker 3: And they're king for the day.

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Speaker 4: Jihin ego is smart, does not want the liability of

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Speaker 4: your cracked tooth, and so they put it in a

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Speaker 4: little baggy and sell it with the cake.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because there's definitely like, you know, some dude

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Speaker 2: from Sharpsburg can be like, I just thought it was

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Speaker 2: a Simon role. He's the owner and proprietor of a

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Speaker 2: new jine eel.

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Speaker 4: Now do you have to say that as much as

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Speaker 4: that is supposed to represent the baby Jesus.

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Speaker 3: It kind of looks like a baby Buddha.

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Speaker 1: It kind of does.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with Yeah. You know, I'm sort of pan religion.

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Speaker 3: He is risen and so is my blood sugar, So

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Speaker 3: there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's delicious. Anyhow, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Is this hour brought to you Keystone Basement Systems Wet

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Speaker 4: high of fifty seven. After this week's thaw started to

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Speaker 4: trigger numerous potholes around the city, Department of Public Works

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Speaker 4: crews are going to be out for a pothole blitz

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Speaker 4: to patch them on Saturday, so that'll begin.

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Speaker 3: At six a m.

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Speaker 4: Thirty trucks will be out city wide, equipped with cold patch,

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Speaker 4: ready to use asphalt material that doesn't require heat to

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Speaker 4: be applied. It will be driving street routes and stopping

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Speaker 4: to fill potholes as they see them. The department worked

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Speaker 4: throughout the week to start patching potholes that had been

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Speaker 4: reported to the city's three one one number, So keep

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Speaker 4: on using that number as you see those potholes, because

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Speaker 4: I'm sure as we continue to get these temperatures, they

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Speaker 4: are going to be everywhere.

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Speaker 2: You can stuff kincake in them and if you'd like,

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Speaker 2: that'll help just put perfectly clip by band find.

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Speaker 3: This story's been circulating.

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Speaker 4: Ted Levine, who played the psychotic killer Buffalo Bill in

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Speaker 4: over the past thirty five years, now tells the Hollywood

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Speaker 4: Reporter quote, there are certain aspects of the movie that

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Speaker 4: don't hold up too well. We all know more and

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Speaker 4: I'm a lot wiser about transgender issues. There are some

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Speaker 4: the film vilified that, and it's bleeping wrong. And you

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Speaker 4: seen Silence of the Lamb's. Buffalo Bill was a serial

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Speaker 4: killer who m who murdered women in order to harvest

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Speaker 4: their skin to wear. While the character's sexual orientations never

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Speaker 2: And I never thought of him as any thing other

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Speaker 3: I never once thought of him as a trans character.

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Speaker 4: I just kind of thought, even in the Netflix seria

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Speaker 3: That was a little part of that history.

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Speaker 2: And then age you're being, of course, is that you

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Speaker 2: all trans people, Right, They're all murderous people who skin

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Speaker 2: their victims and then try to wear it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I get all that, But also for Ted Gean, I'm

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you can go back and bash things.

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Speaker 2: Without also understanding that we didn't know, Like there's an

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Speaker 2: that's when you're really you're you know, that's when you're

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Speaker 2: really guilty. But like John Hughes, I think was continuing

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Speaker 2: tropes in Hollywood when he had all of the sexist

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Speaker 1: Revenge of the Nerds.

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Speaker 2: Very problematic now that we know a whole lot better

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Speaker 2: that cushion is had more frequently, and back then you

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Speaker 2: to understand was wrongheaded thinking. All right, Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 2: of stuff like that and appreciate it if they don't already.

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Speaker 4: But it is a good marker of time, of how

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Speaker 4: you can't erase all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I get his point of view there. I

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Speaker 3: You know what, they can keep it, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Tim Benz joins us and the latest to throw their

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Speaker 2: Why it's Fat Tuesday, all the history on Fat Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Get out there and shake your ass.

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Speaker 2: Myke Pursuit has got your sports right now on the

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Speaker 2: DV Morning Shoe Fat Tuesday edition.

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Speaker 8: Morning Show with Mike pursuitas three takes that Resident Nate

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Speaker 1: Women who Rock the US women win's national team.

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Speaker 1: Take number two, Jack of No Trades.

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Speaker 8: The Pirates apparently couldn't deal Jacksonwinsky, so he's been dfa'd

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Speaker 1: Last, but not least.

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Speaker 2: Nor McDonald interviewed him one time and said that he

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Speaker 2: was one of the only actors that when he watched him,

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Speaker 2: he never felt he was acting, And I guess there

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Speaker 2: always was this effortless sort of element to his art.

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Speaker 2: But the role I think of him in first is

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Speaker 2: the great Santini, because every father of my dad's generation

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Speaker 2: showed it to their kids just so they could see

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Speaker 2: that it's not as bad as you think.

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Speaker 1: Your old man's not so bad. Could be the great Santini.

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Speaker 8: You know, I liked him so much. I didn't like

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Speaker 8: that movie because he was a jackass. And Mash is

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Speaker 8: a great movie. But I don't include it as a

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Speaker 8: Dval movie because he was a jerkinette.

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Speaker 2: Well he's Frank Burns, yeah, and the Frank television character,

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Speaker 2: he's funny Frank Burns now psycho Frank Burns.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: The Frank Burns television character has little resemblance to the

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Speaker 2: movie version of Frank Burns that Duval played. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I wish he would have got in

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Speaker 2: Godfather three. He might have saved it, but that the

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Speaker 2: thing that's so sad about Godfather three is that Coppola

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Speaker 2: was so desperate for money that he just wanted to

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Speaker 2: get it done so he could bail himself out of bankruptcy.

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Speaker 2: And he threw together a slot movie and then wouldn't

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Speaker 2: pay Duval, who just wanted to get paid on the

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Speaker 2: same level as Pacino. Well, he knew he couldn't make

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Speaker 2: the movie without Pacino and he could only have one

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Speaker 2: of them at that rate.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if this is accurate enough, but I

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Speaker 8: saw something online yesterday they were talking about that, and

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Speaker 8: Devall supposedly said, I didn't mind Pacino making twice as

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Speaker 8: much as me, but not three times as much. Like

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Speaker 8: it sounds like they were fairly close, and it just

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Speaker 8: became a principal.

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Speaker 2: Thing in Apocalypse Now though, I mean, I think he

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Speaker 2: has less than two minutes of screen time, and you

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Speaker 2: just most memorable lines in the movie, though.

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Speaker 9: Star, you smell that.

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Speaker 6: Night fun sun, not think that's a little world smells

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Speaker 6: like that. I love the smell of Nike Palm in

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Speaker 6: the morning. Do you know what time we had a

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Speaker 6: hillbom twos one was all around, walk up.

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Speaker 10: We didn't find one of them, not one sticky. You

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Speaker 10: know that gasoline smelled, oh hell, smells like victory.

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Speaker 2: And you know everybody always quotes that by just saying,

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Speaker 2: I love the smell of Name palm in the morning.

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Speaker 1: It smells like victory. You forget the whole little build

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Speaker 1: up to that.

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Speaker 2: He's just bending down talking to the soldiers there on,

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Speaker 2: phased by explosions around him, doesn't twitch doesn't ever move

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Speaker 2: a muscle.

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Speaker 1: It's just completely calm sitting there, Charlie, don't surf.

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Speaker 8: You know some other ones that I'm sure everybody could

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Speaker 8: come up with a list with five different ones than

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Speaker 8: I did.

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Speaker 1: But the Paper. I love that The Eagle has landed

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Speaker 1: True Confessions with de Niro. Very good movie.

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Speaker 2: And underrated a lot of not a lot of people

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Speaker 2: talk about that one open range.

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Speaker 1: I think, pretty good Cowboy movie with Costner. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that one We own the Night.

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Speaker 8: Is that it's what the guy who played the Emperor

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Speaker 8: and Gladiator.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can picture him.

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Speaker 1: He's a cop and his son's a christ. Well, look

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Speaker 1: the Natural? How good is he in The Natural?

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Speaker 2: Max Mercy is great Colors where he plays Bob Hodges

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Speaker 2: pac Man alongside Sean Penn. Also very good Days of Thunder.

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Speaker 2: I mean the guy, he's just non stop working and

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Speaker 2: always did great stuff and lived into his nineties, lived

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Speaker 2: into his flipping nineties.

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Speaker 1: But apparently functional to the very end. Pretty much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Ibe, you'll have your news coming up at

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour.

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Speaker 3: We are going to church up. More sunlight coming to

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Speaker 3: us very soon.

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Speaker 1: More sunlight coming to us. Okay, good I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: hear that.

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Speaker 1: Tim Ben's joining us this morning. Ben's a good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I got a.

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Speaker 11: Couple other Robert Duval sports movies if you want a

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Speaker 11: couple of which he actually worked with Pittsburgh folks along

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Speaker 11: the way. Do you remember the movie that he did

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Speaker 11: with Will Ferrell kicking in screen?

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Speaker 9: Yesah, where Mike Ditka was his rival neighbor. I'll equip

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Speaker 9: his own.

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Speaker 2: Jacob absolutely loves that movie. He's jumping up and down

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Speaker 2: in the production stoo I mean, I was eight.

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Speaker 12: Years old when that movie came out, So that was

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Speaker 12: my first Robert Duval experience.

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Speaker 1: It's probably your first month experience.

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Speaker 12: It was honestly my first Will Ferrell movie too, because

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Speaker 12: I was eight years old. I wasn't able to watch

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Speaker 12: Old School and Anchorman and everything else at that point.

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Speaker 11: The best part about that movie is his character, the

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Speaker 11: grandfather trades his grandson as a youth.

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Speaker 9: League soccer player to another team because he stinks.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and then there's another soccer movie he did. He

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Speaker 11: did something called A Shot at Glory with Gordon. He

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Speaker 11: played Gordon McLeod and the owner of that team is

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Speaker 11: Michael Keaton and he's trying to move the team from

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Speaker 11: Scotland to Ireland.

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Speaker 9: And Robert Duval.

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Speaker 11: It's sort of like a Major League kind of plot

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Speaker 11: where it's down in its luck, franchise goes out and

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Speaker 11: gets a aging superstar and they make a triumphant run

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Speaker 11: and he's the coach. So there are a couple of

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Speaker 11: Pittsburgh tiyes with sports movies, and he did Jack Reacher

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Speaker 11: here too.

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Speaker 1: Good point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did do some Pittsburgh time rip. Robert Duval

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Speaker 2: obviously one of the all time greats. My favorite Robert

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Speaker 2: Duval scene might be in The Godfather Godfather Too, where

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Speaker 2: he says goodbye to Frankie five Angels, basically explaining to

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Speaker 2: him like, yeah, you got to kill yourself now because

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Speaker 2: you know it won't be pretty the other way around,

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Speaker 2: So why don't you go ahead and take care of.

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Speaker 8: Italy gets taken care of and everybody wins except you. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but you're gonna lose either way, so right, like, why

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Speaker 8: not do this?

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Speaker 11: It's almost like it's almost like in that film and

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Speaker 11: that scene, like Frankie five Angels is half explaining it

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Speaker 11: to him as he is explaining it to Frankie five Angels.

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Speaker 11: They all they both say it without saying it masterfully

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Speaker 11: all the way up to and including like they throw

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Speaker 11: out their cigars and they wave to each other to

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Speaker 11: the bars at the federal prison and he says, see

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Speaker 11: you around, Tom, and then he kind of walks off.

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Speaker 9: In the sunder.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about hitting it back in thirty three A lot.

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Speaker 3: I got good stuff in there. You're around the old timers.

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Speaker 1: Dreamed about the family should be organized. I'll be based

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Speaker 1: them on the old Roman legions and call them regimes.

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Speaker 6: The couples and soldiers kind of worked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a good scene, basically just breaking it

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Speaker 2: down to yeah, you know, Roman times, opening up the

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Speaker 2: risk and a bath. Anyways, the Steelers alumni seems to

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Speaker 2: be doing their own sort of self flagellation these days.

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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure how long this continues. But just

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Speaker 2: when I thought we was done, you pulled someone back

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Speaker 2: into the fray yesterday, Tim Jeff Hardings now weighing in

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Speaker 2: on who is and who was not a bad teammate.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he brought that up during a conversation that I had, Well,

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Speaker 11: actually I brought it up, but I mean he went

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Speaker 11: down the path with me and he kind.

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Speaker 9: Of split the difference between Ben and Joey Porter.

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Speaker 11: Like he didn't really take a side. He more or

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Speaker 11: less tried to extol the virtues.

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Speaker 9: Of both of them. You know. Stephen Nelson was one

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Speaker 9: that came out of nowhere to me too. He came

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Speaker 9: out and said.

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Speaker 11: That Roethlisberger he would have to Roethlisberger for a different reason,

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Speaker 11: not so much talking about how like he was a

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Speaker 11: bad teammate or a bad person like Joey Porter said,

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Speaker 11: but he was highly critical of the Steelers for keeping

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Speaker 11: Roethlisberger after twenty twenty and letting some pieces of the

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Speaker 11: defense go because they wanted to rework his contract and

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Speaker 11: have him playing twenty twenty one, which is largely revisionist

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Speaker 11: history on Nelson's part, because the way he talked about

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Speaker 11: that defense and the way he rattled off names like

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Speaker 11: Mark Barron and Cam Sutton like he was talking about

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Speaker 11: those guys like they were Jack Lambert and Mel Blunt.

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Speaker 11: You know, like that defense, yeah, Devin Bushy was talking about.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like that defense allowed three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 11: two yards per game over the last six games, and

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Speaker 11: they I think allowed something like thirty two points over

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Speaker 11: the last six games. So as that team fell apart

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Speaker 11: in twenty twenty, the defense was at the core of

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Speaker 11: it just as much as the offense and Roethlisberger's play.

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Speaker 11: I mean, what were they gonna do, like let Big

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Speaker 11: Ben go to maintain Mark Barron and Courtland's Camp Sutton?

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Speaker 11: What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 2: I just think we're done with the discourse, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: nobody's gonna weigh in and add anything new at this point.

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Speaker 2: It's probably time just to move on. But I made

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Speaker 2: the point earlier Tim that The Steelers were especially vulnerable

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Speaker 2: to this because of all of the sex success that

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Speaker 2: they had through the years, and they have all of

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Speaker 2: these former players who are Hall of Fame caliber or

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Speaker 2: Hall of Honor caliber, and the Steelers fans are just

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Speaker 2: so fervent they can't get enough Steelers talk, and so

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Speaker 2: it enables all of these players to have podcasts. There's

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Speaker 2: not a lot of teams that have as many podcasts

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Speaker 2: being waged as the Steelers. I mean, can you think

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Speaker 2: of another organization. The Patriots have had just as much success,

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Speaker 2: but there's only one or two podcasts from former players.

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Speaker 2: Think of there's like six or seven former Steelers fan

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Speaker 2: or players.

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Speaker 11: Well, part of that is Randy that nobody in North

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Speaker 11: American sports, there are very few like maybe the Celtics,

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Speaker 11: maybe the Yankees, if.

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Speaker 9: You want to stretch it out a little bit, perhaps of.

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Speaker 11: In Canada, the Montreal Canadians, but there are very few

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Speaker 11: teams that cloak themselves in the importance of their own

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Speaker 11: history like the Pittsburgh Steelers do.

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Speaker 9: History is important to this franchise because.

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Speaker 11: They've got a good one and when times aren't great

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Speaker 11: in the present day and there's not a lot of

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Speaker 11: hope for the immediate future. The past becomes all the

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Speaker 11: more important, and the nostalgia becomes all the more important.

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Speaker 11: And we're also at a time where we're at thirtieth

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Speaker 11: anniversaries of the great teams of the nineties. We're at

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Speaker 11: twentieth anniversaries of these teams from the early two thousands

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Speaker 11: when it comes to their Super Bowl trips and titles

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Speaker 11: and big moments and things of that sort. So it's

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Speaker 11: all dovetailing together, and you're getting guys who are in

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Speaker 11: that stage of you know, what the seventies guys were

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Speaker 11: in the nineties for us, that's where the two thousands

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Speaker 11: guys are like in terms of connection to the fan base.

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Speaker 11: So there's still very tangible and out there at this time,

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Speaker 11: but there's not the harmony that you saw for the

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Speaker 11: most part, you know, the Bradshaw Noles stuff aside from

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Speaker 11: the seventies guys. And part of that is what you're

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Speaker 11: talking about social media podcasts. All that stuff wasn't around

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Speaker 11: in the nineteen nineties when those guys were twenty years

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Speaker 11: removed from their titles.

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Speaker 2: Switching gears to the buckos, Tim I keep watching these

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Speaker 2: at bats or Connor Griffin or Connor Ogriffin, Connor Griffin

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Speaker 2: that Kevin Gorman is tweeting out there, and then reading

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Speaker 2: the Fangraphs breakdown of Conor Griffin and basically saying he

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Speaker 2: could make Paul Skeins the second most popular Pittsburgh pirate,

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Speaker 2: which is hard to fathom right now, they Boots Sewinsky,

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Speaker 2: Am I supposed to start thinking that they are going

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Speaker 2: to try this year now?

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Speaker 1: Because it's starting to feel like it, Tim.

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Speaker 9: I think they kind of have to try, you know.

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Speaker 11: I think it's and I wrote about this the last

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Speaker 11: week or so over a trip Live as well, that

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Speaker 11: when you look at their attempts to load up some

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Speaker 11: in the batting order, and this isn't as much about

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Speaker 11: to do a Criffin, but with your last point about

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Speaker 11: them trying, when they go out and they get three guys,

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Speaker 11: all of whom have been All Stars within the last

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Speaker 11: two years, it's wise.

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Speaker 9: And you can call this cynical, but it's also smart.

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Speaker 9: It's wise to get some money on the books as.

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Speaker 11: They are about to go into twenty twenty seven and

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Speaker 11: the labor dispute and the debates about revenue sharing, and

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Speaker 11: even if you know best case scenario happens, and they

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Speaker 11: somehow do get a cap out of this, they're also

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Speaker 11: going to have a floor, and you want to have

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Speaker 11: some money on the books going in, so you know,

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Speaker 11: whatever percentage you have to get to from last year's payroll.

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Speaker 11: You're not doing what some NHL teams did coming out

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Speaker 11: of the lockout in twenty oh five, which was gobble

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Speaker 11: up garbage contracts of rotten veterans just to get to

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Speaker 11: the floor.

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Speaker 9: You know, you want to.

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Speaker 11: Sort of manage going into a labor stopage smarter than that,

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Speaker 11: and I think the pirates have done that. And oh,

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Speaker 11: by the way, it wouldn't hurt too if you get

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Speaker 11: some money coursing through the stadium, because hey, you're actually

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Speaker 11: in a wildcard race in twenty twenty six before the

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Speaker 11: lockout hits, and throw that into your coffers. So that

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Speaker 11: might sound cynical, but sometimes cynical is smart, and it

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Speaker 11: can serve two masters at once, and it can also

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Speaker 11: appease the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Tim Ben's Trip Live Sports brought to you behind Don's appliances.

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Speaker 2: This morning on DV. I'm gonna go watch Kicking and Screaming.

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Speaker 1: Now. You reminded me how much I like that movie.

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Speaker 11: Think It's a great scene where like Will Ferrell gets

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Speaker 11: up and like they're having the soccer dads and soccer

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Speaker 11: moms night at a local restaurant, and then.

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Speaker 9: Dick It comes in like his assistant coach and takes

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Speaker 9: the mic away.

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Speaker 11: It gives the inspirational speech of Duval and Dick are

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Speaker 11: going at it.

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Speaker 9: It's It's not one.

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Speaker 11: Of Duval's more challenging roles, but it's empty headed and

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Speaker 11: it's fun.

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Speaker 2: I think that like back then that all seemed ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: but that's actually how parents act in the sports culture

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Speaker 2: of today.

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Speaker 11: Did you know that when he took the Days of

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Speaker 11: thunder Roll he allegedly turned down the Hannibal Lector role

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Speaker 11: in Silence of the Lambs.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I couldn't have seen him as Hannibal Lecter.

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Speaker 11: Well, apparently he was being approached to either do Hannibal

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Speaker 11: Lecter or a kind of the last minute they wavered

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Speaker 11: realized they could get.

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Speaker 9: Both him and Hopkins, and then they offered him the.

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Speaker 1: Scott I could seen him the ECI guy.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they get they offered him the FBI guy role,

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Speaker 11: and he kind of split the difference and said, well,

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Speaker 11: if you guys aren't going to make up your mind

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Speaker 11: and take the Tom Cruise movie. And he took the

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Speaker 11: Tom Cruise movie, and like you said, end up working

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Speaker 11: with Cruise again here when they did Jack Reacher, and

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Speaker 11: I don't know if it counts as a sports movie,

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Speaker 11: but he was his shooting coach at the shooting range

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Speaker 11: and Jack Reacher, so I think that's close enough.

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Speaker 1: I think counts it. Norway, Yeah, that's right. If he's

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Speaker 1: a by athlete.

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Speaker 2: Daval was such a good actor, he would have been

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Speaker 2: a good Buffalo Bill as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't see anybody else but Anthony Hopkins is

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Speaker 11: in silence the Lambs' Hannibal Lecter. But he would have

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Speaker 11: brought a little bit more gravitas to the FBI guy

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Speaker 11: if nothing else. It's not like they asked him to

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Speaker 11: do multiple mags in the next cell. At least he didn't

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Speaker 11: have to do this.

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Speaker 2: Tim Benz once again brought to you by Don's Appliances

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Speaker 2: this morning on DV. Thanks Benzi, you got it. Guys,

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