1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mannon show, Too Hot to Handle 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: for twenty nine years on Pittsburgh Radio. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: A three three four one two. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: W XDX is the number to call, or you can 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at mark mann X. Boy, did 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens suck? I gonna use my vocal five voice 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: to emphasize they suck in the tank. I'm conditional surrender 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: that game yesterday, the Steeler game. It defies analysis, like 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: every like talking point I brought up in this monologue. 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: That's it. That's the list. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Uh football one oh one always does defy analysis. But 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: four and one here we are, and now Cincinnati gonna 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: be five and one. 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: And really I'm dazed and confused. 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm too sick to clog to do the baselide, I 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: can't do it. 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: How do I feel about four to one? How do 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: you feel? How to starblin feel? It's like next game up? 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: No big picture, but the defense is finally great, not good, 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: but great, worthy of its price tag against Cleveland for now. 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: But you're what Jamar Chase said, the Steelers are coming. 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: We do. 23 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: We have that SoundBite. 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: You gotta hear this soud bye this Jamar Chase talking 25 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: about what the Steelers are gonna come the Cincinnati looking. 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: To do what this next game is always the most 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: important game is because of divisional game also, but just 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: the rankings that we got going on the standards where 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: we are right now. We know Steelers don't try to 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: come in and raw doggas and kill us. But we're 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: gonna be ready for that challenge and we're gonna be 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: waiting for it. 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Raw dog on brass. That costs extra. Ask that Penguins winger. 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: He'll tell you. 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: We'll get a little Penguins talk in a little bit later. 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: But with the Steelers, like I keep saying, you're probably 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: bored with me saying it, But that's too bad. It 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: begs a bigger question. Can you win in today's NFL? 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Can you win playoff games in today's NFL with an 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: approach primarily based on defense? Because when it's nine to 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: three against Cleveland at halftime, your approach is obviously based 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: on defense. First, they laid up for field goals, make 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: sure we get three. If Bos would have blown out 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: his knee on the bad turf, that would have changed 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: the game plan. No offense to Bos, but maybe that 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: would have been best for the sake of entertainments, and 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: to win in that method yesterday, and to keep winning 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: by just playing d and leading a high three at 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: halftime against good teams, that would be a quantum shit 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: in how football is played. 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean, think about this. If you watch Red. 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Zone yesterday instead of the Steeler game in the first half, 53 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: you didn't see the Steelers. 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: You just didn't. 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm DeBie Donner and I'm not gonna lie that 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: I can go for helseyon right now. Maybe I'm thinking 57 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: too much. Maybe I should enjoy four and one like 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: we all enjoy ten and three. Maybe I should have 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: a shot and a beer in a helcion. And now 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the show sucks because I'm not embracing 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: the communal joy of Connor Hayward scoring a touchdown. I 62 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: feel bad that I just can't buy in to the 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: mascot scoring a touchdown. But on a lighter note, baseball sucks. 64 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Get your calls in, by the way, let's talk today. 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm sick, I need company. I'm lonely. Eight three three 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: four one TWODX. 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Baseball sucks. 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: He had that great fifteen inning game to decide the 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: division series between Detroit Seattle and Detroit's a Scooble, who 70 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: is the left handed skiings. 71 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: He is a bad mfort. He's really freaking good. He 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: can deal. 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: And he pitched six innings in that game, ninety nine pitches, 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: lights out, and his last pitch in the sixth was 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: one one hundred and one miles per hour. And he 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: struck on cal Rawley, the presumptive American League MVP. And 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: then right after that, after he struck on cal Rawley 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: at one oh one mph, Detroit pulled Schooble. Detroit pulled 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Scooble with the season on the line. I think they 80 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: were head by one. They pulled Scooble. You got that 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: guy specifically to pitch that game, Sounless. His arm hurts, 82 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: and I bet it didn't let him keep going. The 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: priority there can't be protecting Schooble's arm at the expense 84 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: of winning an elimination game in the friggin' Alds. You 85 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: just can't worry about the guy's arm unless he tells 86 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: you he hurts, and he tells you to worry about it. 87 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think he wanted to come out. Invited 88 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: me a Blake Snell like for Tampa NetWorld Series game 89 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: against La elimination game where Snell like, you know, you 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: could tell visibly on the mind he did not want 91 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: to come out of the game for Tampa. 92 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: But the priority want to protect his arm. You know 93 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: what else you'll hear. 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I didn't see the round up afterwards because I just 95 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: hated what happened so much. I mean I didn't watch 96 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Once they pulled him, I go, Okay, 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: this ain't how baseball is supposed to be. All y'all 98 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: can go after yourselves, but uh, they're gonna say that 99 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: crap probably about how oh third time through the order, 100 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. The ware was dealing. He could have 101 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: gone three, four, five, ten, twenty times in the order, 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: and as long as he was dealing, I left him 103 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: in there. And you know what, when he stops dealing, 104 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: you'll know it. 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: You'll know it. 106 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: You're not stupid, Well, actually you are if you pulled him. 107 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: And in that vein. 108 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Some baseball purest After that game was on Twitter, I 109 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: was like, see, that's why you don't use the stupid 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: ghost runner. Actually that's exactly why you do use the 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: ghost runner, because who has time. 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: For fifteen innings? 113 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: But that's in the regular season, the ghost Runner is 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a OK in the regular season. In the playoffs not 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: so much. The playoffs are different. Four one two three 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: three three Wait that's wrong. A three three four one 117 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: two WXDX. Does anybody out there Pet State fans? I 118 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: think they should have fired Franklin. And here's the thing, 119 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: you Pet State fanser dopes. You Pet fans, you're bigger dopes. 120 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm not picking on anybody but your Pet State fans. Okay, 121 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: you wanted him fired, I guarantee you'll call up and 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: give me the reasons why, and I'll pick you to 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: shreds because logic dictates he should not have been. And 124 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: when they hire whoever they hire, you will see right 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: quick that they should not have Give an example. They're 126 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna try for Kurtzing that you not get him. They're 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: just not would you leave Indiana to coach pet State? 128 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna get this Matt Rule guy, and you're gonna 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: take It's a good hire, yo, idiots. He's the GM's buddy. 130 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: That's what the hires based up buddy system. They should 131 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: not have fired him. A three three four one two 132 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: WSTX call now, X, we've been kind of dropping in 133 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: names and guys who played real good for the Steelers yesterday, 134 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Some pretty obvious like Jalen Ramsey, and some not quite 135 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: so obvious like Broderick Jones, who Trey Essex said played 136 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: a great game. It was a big part of neutralizing 137 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Is much as we've ever seen Garrett neutralized 138 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: another guy, and I've not been a fan so far. 139 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, Patrick Queen getting some stuff done out there. 140 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen played a little tougher, Patrick Queen rising to 141 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: the occasion finally, and about time too. Let's hear not 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: from Miles Garrett after that horrible performance he put in 143 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: yesterday in losing to the Steelers yet again at Akroshur Stadium. 144 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: They tipped after he got the ball out as quick 145 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: as possible, And there weren't a lot of situations in 146 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: which even if I was running, but as nugget, no day, 147 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: I could have got there. So I think that was 148 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: a situation for for all of us. You know, the 149 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 5: way he was getting it out or spurning out to 150 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 5: the other side. 151 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, wait what Garrett said. It's all true, but nobody cares. 152 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: And Garrett bitched in another side by Cleveland's offense not scoring, 153 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's why we lose. And that's true too, But 154 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: you can't bitch when you're invisible. Late Miles Garrett was yesterday. 155 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm a Garrett fan, but yesterday he sucked and then 156 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: he babbled. And here's a little secret to repeats. Rodert 157 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Jones played great. It's kind of be a whispered to 158 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: maybe not jinx it, but Treyasis said it for example 159 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Rodert Jones played great and that is a 160 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: welcome development. And yes, please would like to see some 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: more of that. I'd like to get some Steelers calls 162 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: at eight three three four one two WX Dix. But 163 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I find what's happening in college football. 164 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: And I'm not a college football guy, you guys know that, 165 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: but I find what was going on in college football 166 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: to be mooie interesting. 167 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: The Franklin firing. 168 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: Pitt with a big win in Florida State, where both 169 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: those programs go from here? Let me ask you Pitt 170 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: fans this your Penn State fans too. If Pitt and 171 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Penn State played Saturday, who would win? And tell me why. 172 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: If you're a Penn State fan, would you have fired Franklin, 173 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: if so, why so? If not, why not dial eight 174 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: three three four one two WXDX. Staying with college football, 175 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Texas be to Oklahoma. Oklahoma had been righting number six. 176 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Arch Manning was twenty one for twenty seven and one touchdown, 177 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: not even two hundred yards. Very nickel, dimie. They've dumbed 178 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: him down. They know he's not good. And with arch 179 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: Manning being not so good Andrew Aller being not so 180 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: good and now out for the year and with no 181 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: more eligibility, is next year's draft gonna be flushed with 182 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks like we thought? 183 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Or no? 184 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Because to me it looks like no. And with this 185 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: height Shechell kid had Pitt the bomber, the true freshman 186 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: who's the same. Big ten and SEC teams won't come 187 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Colin with a big nil envelope. 188 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: I almost hope they. 189 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Do, because that would validate how good he is, because 190 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: they didn't come in for Holstein, who got off to 191 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: such a hot start last year before kind of fading. 192 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: And people say, well, they gave him a million bucks 193 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: holsteate to keep him here. Yeah, that's great, but uh, 194 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: if he was worth worth it to an SEC or 195 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: Big ten team as a quarterback. My god, the money position, 196 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: they would have given him a whole lot, I mean 197 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: a whole lot more than that. I'm next going to 198 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: talk to our football grew. We're with the pro and 199 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: college Scott Matt Williamson here on one oh five nine. 200 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 6: It's the Woodie Show Show Week in Winnings at six. 201 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Precocious and full of wonderment. 202 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 6: One nine The X. 203 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: If you can't get enough, if you're Pittsburgh Steels, then 204 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: check out the Laker. 205 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: I remember what. 206 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Falls are really awesome call the X at one oh 207 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: five nine. Steelers with a convincing twenty three nine went 208 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: over Cleveland yesterday, joining me now to talk about it. 209 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: He is our football guru, former pro and college Scott 210 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. Matt, the Steelers defense was excellent yesterday and 211 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: mostly has been what and who have been the biggest 212 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: factors on that side of the ball. 213 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really impressed with that group, and they're doing 214 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: such a good job of just being aggressive, play calling, blitzing, attacking, 215 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: playing fast. I think everyone's starting to get, you know, 216 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: acclimated with one another. That was obviously a problem early 217 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: in the season. I thought collectively the first couple of weeks. 218 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: They were a very poor tackling team that's changed dramatically. 219 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: And frankly, they're healthy too, you know. I mean the 220 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: guys that they had to play early on got valuable experience, 221 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: and then the high Smiths and Elliotts and these guys 222 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: start coming back and everyone's kind of found their role. 223 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: But most importantly to me or if we get to 224 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: stress one thing, if they're so good right now at 225 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: creating splash plays and chaos and disruption from all angles. 226 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: And I give the coaching staff a lot of credit. 227 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: I was really critical of Austin a year ago for 228 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: being so static with the defense, and they went out 229 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: and got a lot more movable chess pieces. Ramsey's at 230 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: the top of the list, and they have really lit 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: it up with aggressive play calling, and I think the 232 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: players are thriving off it and it's fun to watch. 233 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: And frankly, there was what four or five near interceptions 234 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: they could have had on tip balls and things like 235 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: that that even if they get one or two of them, 236 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: that game goes drastically different. In the Steelers faate, Yeah. 237 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: You mentioned Ramsey in full marks to him. I think 238 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: he's been everything we hoped he would be. He enables 239 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: the team to present so many different looks by moving around. 240 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: Even got two sacks yesterday, which is not always in 241 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: his game. And another guy I want to praise is 242 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Derek Harmon. He's making plays and there's clearly a trickle 243 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: dad to everybody else along that. 244 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: Front line, right And I love that you can have 245 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: like Equalle and Black as your fourth and fifth piece 246 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: now and early in the season when Harmon was out, 247 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: Ben and Hayward were playing way too many snaps, especially 248 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: for early in the season. You know, Hayward hadn't done 249 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: anything hardly anyone does, I mean around the league. So 250 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: I like Harmon quite a bit. He's very active, just 251 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: a big bodied athlete in the middle of the defense 252 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: I think goes a long way. And you know, Benton 253 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: was really straight. Benton might be the number one benefactor 254 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: of Harmon being in the mix because Benton was playing 255 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: too much. He was getting worn down, he was getting 256 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: pushed to the second level, he was getting dumped downfield, 257 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: especially in the run game. And now he looks like 258 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: a new guy. So there's definitely a ripple effect. With 259 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: the first off pick of the mix. 260 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: Would you expand Herby's roll or be content with what 261 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: he's doing in the staffs he's playing. 262 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: I think he's phenomenal. If he played every snap, I 263 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't object. And I know this sounds like it's a 264 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: bit extreme, but I really think he's one of the 265 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: best edge pass rushers in the league. I don't think 266 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: he's a cute, cute story that's fun off the bench 267 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: or being introduced as a the twelfth member of the 268 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: defense as they did yesterday. I think he is a 269 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: star in the making, and I love kind of how 270 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: they handled yesterday, though. You know, take ten to fifteen 271 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: snaps off a lot, Take ten to fifteen snaps off 272 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: the high Smith. Throw in six or seven snaps of 273 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: the three of them out there together, and it should 274 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: pay off long term. I mean, I'm sure watch will 275 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: be a lot fresher come December because of it, and inevitably, unfortunately, 276 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: someone will probably get hurt again. But they're really in 277 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: an enviable situation with those three players, which of course 278 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: isn't the knock on what or high Smith. I mean, 279 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: I just think her big is spectacular. 280 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Can you win in today's NFL against good teams with 281 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: the defense is your main strength? I mean, yesterday's win 282 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: was convincing that but it was nine to three at halftime. 283 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was against the Browns and they have 284 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: not played great offenses and as a quarterback in his 285 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: second year. And it should be noted too that not 286 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: the rain on the parade, but their tackle offensive tackle 287 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: situation was a disaster by the end of the game 288 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: for Cleveland and wasn't great to start the game. I 289 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: think that's a great question. I definitely believe it's harder 290 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: and harder in today's NFL to be very defensive oriented 291 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: because inevitably, in the playoffs, Josh Allen or Mahomes, the 292 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: Lamar or one of these type of guys is going 293 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: to figure out a defense and start ripping you apart. 294 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: But I also think the Steelers offense is a little 295 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: better than it's been in those last couple of years too. 296 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Maybe a lot better. 297 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: No, I think it's a little better. And that leads 298 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: to this question. Matt was The running game good enough. 299 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: The yards per carry not great, but the Steelers rarely 300 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: got behind the sticks and they seemed committed the run, 301 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: which is something they're they're really sticking to. 302 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: They're not getting away from it. 303 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I didn't know if they would because some 304 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: are the best run defense in the league and teams 305 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: are averaging about seventy five yards a game against the 306 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: Browns despite usually winning deep in the game and trying 307 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: to close the Browns out, you know, So the fact 308 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: that they eclipsed you know, the Browns average performance I 309 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: thought was really oppressive, and frankly, I know this is 310 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: kind of like making excuses for them. Their yard for 311 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: rush went down so much because they had three meal 312 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: downs at the end of the game. Those Caleb Johnson's 313 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: you know rushes at the end of the game were 314 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: basically into a brick wall eating clocks. So in meaningful 315 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: time they will average in a little over four yard 316 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: to carry, which I did not see coming against this group. 317 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: And I give them credit for sticking with it because 318 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: I probably would have been more pass centric than they were. 319 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: Is the all line playing better or is it just 320 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: about using seven guys? 321 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: I thought Roderick Jones had maybe his strongest game of 322 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the year. 323 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a strongest game as a Steeler and certainly 324 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: his strongest game as a left tackle. I think Faltanu 325 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: is coming into his own and understanding what's expected of 326 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: being an every down player in this league and the 327 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: starter and all those things. I think Frasier is better 328 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: than he was early in the season, So I absolutely 329 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: think the line is better. One thing I wanted to 330 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: ask throw in, you know, from your previous question, though, 331 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: and I think it's very Roger centric, is they had 332 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: very few negative offensive plays. Now that doesn't mean every 333 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: play was a raging success, but sacks, turnovers, you know, 334 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: going backwards, they and that's been the case for a 335 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: couple of weeks now. And I think Rogers helps the 336 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: old line drastically, as does the addition of Anderson and Washington. 337 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: But I think Rogers is so good at the line 338 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: a scrimmage that he doesn't have them, you know, have 339 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: six guys block eight in the run game. If you're 340 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: gonna give me single high, I'm gonna go over the 341 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: top of the metcalf war in Max protect, you know. 342 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: So he's so smart that they're rarely in the wrong play. 343 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: Well, and that's what's great about him. 344 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: He's just such a such a brain back there, knows 345 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: what to do, what not to do. Maybe even more impressively, 346 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: I want to stay with the running game for one 347 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: more second, that Warren was good. I thought he got 348 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: hard yards. I feel like he laid down the marker 349 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: that he's the guy. 350 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: I agree. Like if you just look at the box 351 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: score or even the snap counts, he might be like, ah, boy, 352 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: they still like Game Well, the mixing and Johnson. No, 353 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: he's the guy. I mean to me, Warren is clearly 354 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: the best player at that position on the team. He 355 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: had some nice pass protection reps. There was one snap 356 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: that he picked up Miles Garrett very ably alone. You know, 357 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: that's exactly what a defense tries to devise, and he 358 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 3: lived extremely well. I'm a big, big Warren fan, and 359 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 3: that's not a knock on Game Well, but I just 360 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: think Warren is clearly the guy. 361 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: As you mentioned how Rogers play, is he just a 362 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: game manager? And if he is, I don't mean that 363 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: as a knock, but he's he's real effective whatever they ask. 364 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: I think he's the ultimate game manager. I mean, he's 365 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: always in ahead of what the defense is doing, and 366 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: I think he's bringing his teammates up to par with 367 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: him for what's expected so that he can use his 368 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: brain to the fullest. I still think he throws. I 369 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 3: still think he throws the football quite well. I was 370 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: alarmed at the deep goball to Metcalf that just died 371 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: and didn't come close to getting there. But I'm gonna 372 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: call that a one off. That was one throw. And 373 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: he doesn't move great, that's for sure, especially when you 374 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: compare him to a lot of the starters around the league. 375 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: But he always knows where the most dangerous guy is 376 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 3: when he's buying time. And his sack avoidance, which I 377 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: think is very much a quarterback thing, not a no 378 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: line thing, is really good and was particularly good in 379 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: this game. So I mean, even like his time to 380 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: throw went up drastically, their average depths of target went 381 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: up drastically in this game. And it just shows that 382 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: he doesn't have to play one way. You know, if 383 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: you're going to load the box and try to take 384 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: away the run, well then I will hold the ball 385 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: a little bit longer and throw it downfield. 386 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: DK broke out a bit, but in the second half, 387 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers don't like to open up till they feel 388 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: they have I don't want to say it safely, but 389 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: certainly a lead, and certainly in the second half. 390 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think a lot of that's opponent base 391 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: too that I don't think that the Steelers, Tomlin, whoever 392 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: you want to say, feared the Browns offense at any point, 393 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, so why put the ball in Harm's way 394 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, struggling offensive line. They eliminated Judkins early, so 395 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: I think that was more of just a team philosophy. 396 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: If they were to hypothetically, if Burrow was healthy on 397 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: Thursday night, maybe they would play the first half a 398 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: lot different. But I will say, you know, I think 399 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: everyone's aware. Boy, they're scoring touchdowns and points on the 400 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: opening drive that hasn't happened in five years. They're also 401 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: scoring points all through the first half, you know, like 402 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: their first half scoring is really really good. So it's working. 403 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: Is Darnel Washington the legit number one tight end? He's 404 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: catching the balls. Obviously he's big and he could block. 405 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: Is it the right move to have him playing the snapsis? 406 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: Yes? And I've lobbied for this for over a year 407 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 3: because everyone in the NFL to freak, and everyone's an 408 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: athlete and everyone's a special physical specimen. But sometimes there's 409 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: outliers and he's an outlier, and playing against outliers drives 410 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: defensive coordinators bonkers. You know, there's no great answer for 411 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: someone with his dimensions that can also catch the football. 412 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: And I like Johnny Smith, and frankly, Friar Moose has 413 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: just kind of been the short you know, he just 414 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: pulled the short straw. And but I would continue, and 415 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: I think they agree that Washington would be my tight 416 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: end snap leader every week. 417 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Well, where's that Friar mooth in the long run, because 418 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: it's all Worth paid him eleven million to have him 419 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: do what he's doing. 420 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: Agreed. Now, I'm not saying i'd dump him at the 421 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: trade deadline for a fifth round pick or a sixth 422 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: round picker or something that doesn't help you much. But 423 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: I think he'd have to explore, you know, extending Washington. 424 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: Smith's making money and field offers for Friar Moose, draft 425 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: another one in the fifth round to be your you know, 426 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: third tight end is. 427 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: The division decided con Cincinnati maker gave him a Thursday 428 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: on a short week. 429 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: Flacco helped them a little, a little, but there was 430 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: nowhere to go but up. And boy they stink the 431 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: start games and they some injuries Hendrickson Mims, two of 432 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: their key guys. I don't know, we'll play. We'll find 433 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 3: that out. More as we go. Chase and Higgins are 434 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: as dangerous as ever, and Flacco makes them more dangerous, 435 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: but their defense is horrific. I don't definically well coached team. 436 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 3: I know you know, Tomlin on the road Thursdays is 437 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: not a winning formula, and it really isn't for anybody. 438 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: But I'd be shocked if the Steelers lose this game. 439 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: I think that that puts a nail in the Bengals coffin. 440 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: But I'm not quite ready to bury the Ravens. I mean, 441 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: to me, the Ravens go into a buy that they 442 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: need unbelievably bad and could on the other side being 443 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: a highly effective team, but the math and the standings 444 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: are not their friend at all. Obviously. 445 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing about this game Thursday, and I 446 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: don't see a ghost of a chance for the Bengals, 447 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: not really math, but but Flacco could bomb the Bengels 448 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: back into the game if the trail into the lead early. 449 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: The Steelers need have a much better first half offensively 450 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: than they did against Cleveland. 451 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: That's the only way this game could be. 452 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: Trouble could be. But if you look at how bad 453 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: the Bengals have started games lately, it's terrific. I mean, 454 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: they haven't scored more than three points in the first 455 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: half of a game for like a month, you know, 456 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: so a lot of their production is coming when the 457 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: game's well out of hand. But the thing with Flaco 458 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: is he doesn't care. I mean, he's to the point 459 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: of his career where he's ultra aggressive. Now that might 460 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: mean four touchdowns, or might mean four picks, you know. 461 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: I mean, and you know he's gonna get hit. But 462 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: it's kind of like that Winston game when they played 463 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: the night. If he rolls the dice over and over 464 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: and he keeps getting seven, well then you might be 465 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: in for a game. But man, their defense is so 466 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: bad in Cincinnati. 467 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Trey Henderson might not play. He's bagged up. Yeah. 468 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 469 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a tough game 470 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: for the Steelers bit up. But like you said Thursday 471 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: night on the road, that that's difficult. And I was 472 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: surprised Tomlin kind of took it to Cleveland's management about 473 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: trading Flaco. It was almost like he doesn't want to 474 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: play Flacco. 475 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: I know, and I'm anxious. I'm actually driving home at 476 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: the moment I'm going to go watch the press conference 477 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: because I want to see what tone he took about it, 478 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: because I mean, the only I think, the only time 479 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: it's really happened in the Super Bowl era. It was 480 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: a meaningless trade. But the Eagles traded McNabb to Washington 481 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: way back when, right, you don't trade starting quarterbacks within 482 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: the division, you know. 483 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: Let me play Devil's advocate of Craig Patrick, the Penguins 484 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: former GM who's as good at GM and any sport 485 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: as there is. He always said that if you can 486 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: make the best trade with inner division and benefits your club, 487 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: you should make the trade. And by way of evidence, 488 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: he made a trade with Philadelphia in nineteen ninety two 489 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: then got Tackett, Sheel, Samuelson, Kenny Reagan, and ultimately the 490 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Penguins second straight Stanley Cup. So I just like making 491 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: a good. 492 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: Deal me too. 493 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: And frankly, the day that the you know, I do 494 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: a bunch of other radio stuff on national networks and 495 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: national stuff and podcasts, and the second the Browns made 496 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 3: the deal, I'm like, Wow, they got more than they 497 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 3: should for a bad old quarterback. That doesn't matter, so 498 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: good for them. They shouldn't care what the Steelers saying, don't. 499 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: You that was a deal made by their ownership to 500 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: try to get Shador that much closer to the field. 501 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I have one thousand percent think that, and I 502 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: think Shador will be starting a month from now. 503 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: The Steelers haven't trailed by more than one score all year, 504 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: except against Seattle, the game they lost. Does that double 505 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: storias a coincidence? Can this offense come. 506 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: For behind that? I don't know? And that was something 507 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: I questioned all off season, was boy, I like this 508 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: approach of three tight ends and creating mismatches with your 509 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: tight ends and you know, thirteen personnel and do some 510 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: things that most teams don't do. But and I even 511 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: said this today on the Drive, like sometime in two 512 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: months or whatever, you're gonna go into the fourth quarter 513 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: down by fourteen and Rogers is gonna have to sit 514 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: in the shotgun and throw it over and over and 515 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: over to Roman Wilson and Scronic and Miller and you 516 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like today, have the firepower to 517 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: do that. I think Rogers can do it. I just 518 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: don't know that they can play that style of game 519 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: when everyone in the stadium knows you have to throw I. 520 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Don't think they can play that style game when they 521 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: have to convert to it in the wink of an 522 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: eye after not doing it very much. I also don't 523 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: think they have the receivers either, which begs the question 524 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: that my producer Tom one step to trade for a 525 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: number two receiver. 526 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: So do I. But I just don't think they're. 527 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: Gonna It's funny because today, more than ever, I would 528 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: push stronger, you know, if it was me. Now, I 529 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: know they're always making calls, and they're always looking a 530 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: bit better their team and all that stuff. I don't 531 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: think they will either. And I don't think it'll be 532 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: a lave, a expensive you know, big. 533 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 7: Time guy, but I would bet it's better than the 534 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 7: Mike Williams edition last year, you know what I mean, 535 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: some throwaway nonsense and I mixed feelings. 536 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: But the more I what's the team, the more I 537 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: see the status of the division and the conference. I 538 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: could see giving up a third round pick next year 539 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: when you have multiple for us a high quality number two. 540 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: But who's out there. 541 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: To Kobe Meers, you know, something like that, And it's 542 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: kind of splitting the difference between in the lave and 543 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: a junkie you know, seventh round, pick move something like that. 544 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Would that guy come here and get enough targets to 545 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: keep him happy or doesn't that matter. 546 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't think you care about that at the moment, 547 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, And frankly, there's not enough targets to go 548 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: around to keep Fiarmuth happy and John you're happy, and 549 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: you know it's they don't run a lot of plays 550 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: or you know, have a huge piece of the pot, 551 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: but I want one more insurance piece if you're really 552 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: gonna make a run. 553 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Mad great stuff, fabulous insight. 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