Speaker 1: Do you want to be in a Manican idiot?
Speaker 2: It's a Scott Flown show on seven hundred WLW. Our
Speaker 2: time is still compressed these days. Everybody and everything wants
Speaker 2: so much of us at all times. I don't care
Speaker 2: what kind of job you have, if you're a high
Speaker 2: flying CEO C suite type of person, Hell, you could
Speaker 2: be a guy dude driving to travel a gravel truck
Speaker 2: right and somewhere in between, high or lower, whatever it
Speaker 2: might be, whatever your station in life is, we all
Speaker 2: know that we are Our time has demanded so much
Speaker 2: and it just stretched so thinly, and how do we
Speaker 2: back off of that? I think that's a really valid
Speaker 2: question to ask, because it's too much. I'm doing way too
Speaker 2: many things I have, and I think a lot of
Speaker 2: us are wired to please, and so you don't want
Speaker 2: to tell people no, hey, can you do this? Can
Speaker 2: you do this? Can you? And you just add more
Speaker 2: and more and more on your plate and nothing goes away.
Speaker 2: How do you stop the madness? Julia Vincent Gambudo is here.
Speaker 2: Please don't subscribe. He is a master of saying no
Speaker 2: with something that most people are bad at. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show. Are you?
Speaker 3: Thanks so much? Thank for having me. I'm good. I
Speaker 3: guessed that fatly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you saying yes to me? That would
Speaker 2: be the ultimate. It's like, hey, you want to get
Speaker 2: on and talk about you know, unsubscribed. No, I'm good,
Speaker 2: I've got too much, got too much going on, kind
Speaker 2: of self defeating. You pick the important stuff, and I
Speaker 2: think that's true though. We all have to. Man, I
Speaker 2: guess I need to do this in order to fulfill
Speaker 2: some sort of goal that I have, which would be
Speaker 2: to sell books. I appreciate that, and I appreciate taking time.
Speaker 2: I've come on, But so, yeah, why say, where do
Speaker 2: you draw a line of things? How do you how
Speaker 2: do you determine what's in and what's out? In some days?
Speaker 2: I think for most of us, it depends on how
Speaker 2: we feel at that exact moment in time. Do you
Speaker 2: catch me the right time? I might say yes, you
Speaker 2: catch me the wrong time, I'm probably going to say no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what, either way is okay, the
Speaker 4: kind of first the first and important part of saying
Speaker 4: no right is understanding that it's okay. We've all been
Speaker 4: really really conditioned, and souls are really sexy. Story, you know,
Speaker 4: in America, in the last twenty years that we've got
Speaker 4: to say yes right, say you know, Carpa diam say
Speaker 4: yes to the dress right like you know, yes is
Speaker 4: the answer to everything we've always wanted. And I think
Speaker 4: we live in a different time now right where your
Speaker 4: work constantly bombarded left, right and center with messages, with information,
Speaker 4: with things to process, not only just commitments and requests,
Speaker 4: but just you know, life is overwhelming, and so learning
Speaker 4: how to be savvy about saying.
Speaker 3: No really really really is important.
Speaker 4: But the first step really is to understand that you
Speaker 4: can say it right without without without sort of losing
Speaker 4: losing at all, which is I think the fear that
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 2: Well and the message bombarding it doesn't begin and end
Speaker 2: with it. But it's the mobile device. It's a text,
Speaker 2: it's something on social media, it's a direct message, it's
Speaker 2: an email, it's a call. It's we are bombarded NonStop
Speaker 2: with asks that large. Is the I think the tipping
Speaker 2: point for this conversation isn't it is? If we got
Speaker 2: rid of our mobile device and just didn't respond, we'd
Speaker 2: be in much better headspace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really important, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: these times, this technology, it calls for us to be
Speaker 4: you know, really really specific and intentional about how we
Speaker 4: use these devices. I mean, you know, the companies that
Speaker 4: sell them, they want us to use it in a
Speaker 4: certain way. And we've got to sort of wake up
Speaker 4: to the fact that that way is not serving us well. Right,
Speaker 4: being connected twenty four hours a day, being always on,
Speaker 4: being accessible, having no boundaries, right, these things are not
Speaker 4: serving us. They's not helping life be better, rich or deeper,
Speaker 4: more satisfying. And so, you know, from.
Speaker 3: A very very.
Speaker 4: Surface level logistically, right, we've got to make decisions about
Speaker 4: how we use these devices. My laptop is for this,
Speaker 4: my soulness for that. I'm gonna set some rules and
Speaker 4: parameters for myself.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, those are the things that have been eroded,
Speaker 4: and they've been eroded on professe, right, so that we
Speaker 4: just feel constantly connected and on. Uh and uh and
Speaker 4: and it's really kind of time in the in a
Speaker 4: large scale or in a large view here, uh, to
Speaker 4: just get some some clearer and clearer boundaries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's talk about taking back our time. How
Speaker 2: do we set those boundaries? I It's easier said than done.
Speaker 2: And I think in particular, and and I'm generalizing here,
Speaker 2: of course maybe stereotyping, but it seems like women have
Speaker 2: much more difficulty men and saying no. They want to
Speaker 2: try to be everything to everybody. They don't want to
Speaker 2: disappoint if kids and husbands, spouses, or certainly their girlfriends
Speaker 2: and people at work, and so they try to do
Speaker 2: everything all the time. And there's plenty of guys that
Speaker 2: do that. Don't get me wrong, A lot of us
Speaker 2: do that. But generally you look at this and go, wow,
Speaker 2: that's that that hits women on the head. And I
Speaker 2: think that is why women feel so compromise these days.
Speaker 2: But all right, so how do I begin by saying no?
Speaker 2: How do you train someone to say no? Who's the
Speaker 2: programmed to say yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it is a question of our time.
Speaker 4: I think that that all starts. It all starts on
Speaker 4: the surface, right, I think, and I like to look
Speaker 4: at all of this through the through the lens of
Speaker 4: a sort of three places that we can look at
Speaker 4: and target in our lives. One being the surface, right,
Speaker 4: all the screens, everything that we're touching all day long,
Speaker 4: our digital life.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Second being our social networks, both on and off, right,
Speaker 4: sort of learning to speak to them and defy some
Speaker 4: of the narratives that we have and that we share
Speaker 4: that somehow, you know, succept is being busy constantly and
Speaker 4: that you know, we we we sort of parent these
Speaker 4: beliefs around to one another all day long, right, and
Speaker 4: kind of learning to say, you know what, I don't
Speaker 4: believe that, I don't think that's true. I think I
Speaker 4: have to sort of create a different space for myself
Speaker 4: and for my family. And then that sort of third
Speaker 4: level which I talk about in my book really is
Speaker 4: sort of these underlying subscriptions. What does that mean? It
Speaker 4: just sort of means like the beliefs that we hold
Speaker 4: really really pearly, you know, about our identity and who
Speaker 4: we are. I you know, certainly before the pandemic, which
Speaker 4: was a really big turning point for me. I know
Speaker 4: we're all sick of talking about it, but you know this,
Speaker 4: it was sort of the genesis of my work. Was
Speaker 4: my life was just constant, right, It was just on
Speaker 4: the go all the time, always everywhere. And I can't
Speaker 4: speak to women specifically, but I can speak from my perspective,
Speaker 4: which is that you know, I was feeling like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I have been trained to be this upwardly mobile,
Speaker 4: successful type a person. And I never stopped back to
Speaker 4: question any of it. So, you know, yes, absolutely, I
Speaker 4: think there are things we can do on the surface,
Speaker 4: but so much of this is about digging even deeper
Speaker 4: to understand, you know, why are why do we feel
Speaker 4: the need to people please, Why do we feel the
Speaker 4: need to always link success with being busy? Why do
Speaker 4: we feel the need constantly to be accessible to everyone
Speaker 4: or to not find the words to politely say, you
Speaker 4: know what, my time, attention, money, cash, all those things
Speaker 4: are super important to me and have to take precedence
Speaker 4: right now. And I don't necessarily mean it, you know,
Speaker 4: one to one with everyone, but I do mean when
Speaker 4: you look at the whole of life, right how can
Speaker 4: I be how can I be a little bit more
Speaker 4: selfish in how I spend my time and where I've
Speaker 4: put my focus, so anyway to be practical about it.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I you know, suggest people
Speaker 4: take a look at is not even necessarily you know,
Speaker 4: do this or do that, but take a step back
Speaker 4: and ask the question, you know, how can I slow
Speaker 4: this down? How can I put more structure in? And
Speaker 4: how can I make this more human? And I think
Speaker 4: those are the three things that have happened in the
Speaker 4: last ten and twenty years in our country because of
Speaker 4: all of this tech, because of how wired we are,
Speaker 4: we have sped it all up. We have taken the
Speaker 4: parameters and the boundaries away, and we've made it less human.
Speaker 4: And so, you know, from a just practical perspective, if
Speaker 4: we can stop in any given moment that's overwhelming to
Speaker 4: us and ask those questions, I think people you know,
Speaker 4: can find the answers that are specific to their lives
Speaker 4: and helpful to them by by sort of taking that break.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's Julia Vincent Gambudo on the show
Speaker 2: this morning. Please unsubscribe. Thanks taking back our time, attention
Speaker 2: and purpose and world designed to bury us and bs,
Speaker 2: which is largely true. It just we piled on pilot
Speaker 2: on pilod on. Although I just had this conversation with
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine and he's a guy gen X
Speaker 2: are like me and raised by parents and there and
Speaker 2: also grandparents too, where work was everything for man, Right,
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you go when you work, you work
Speaker 2: your work, your work, you work all day, you work hard,
Speaker 2: you work smart, you make your money and then hopefully
Speaker 2: at the end you start to cash out and enjoy
Speaker 2: the fruits of your labor. I think that models change
Speaker 2: because we have seen and a lot of people are
Speaker 2: as older certainly would look at it and go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, nobody wants to work anymore. And I know
Speaker 2: it's partly true, and it looks and appears that way,
Speaker 2: but you know, look at it this way. When you
Speaker 2: were working when you were younger, Hey can we go
Speaker 2: and we're gonna want a family vacation. How much time
Speaker 2: did you spend working while on vacation because things were
Speaker 2: expected you at work or weekends or nights, or you
Speaker 2: may be distracted by different projects and things you had
Speaker 2: to get done. And so you know, kids absorbed that
Speaker 2: like a sponge and they say, all right, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we live a nice life. I guess relatively speaking, we
Speaker 2: always want more as a kid. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, I saw what work has done to my parents.
Speaker 2: I saw the two thousand and eight housing collapse, what
Speaker 2: that did to a lot of people. We saw what
Speaker 2: happened during the pandemic and people losing their jobs, like
Speaker 2: and I think you're people look at that and said,
Speaker 2: you know, what, tomorrow is not given. I'm an enjoy
Speaker 2: life in the moment, at the moment right now.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Do they want nice things without putting that kind of
Speaker 2: effort in Absolutely, But you can choose to have you
Speaker 2: can choose to live that life where you're not consumed
Speaker 2: with work and not consumed with burning the mid not
Speaker 2: all and doing those things at previous generations, But you're
Speaker 2: probably not going to have as much at the end,
Speaker 2: So that is a choice that you will make. I
Speaker 2: respect that out of today said that they literally, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going on vacation now. I'm not waiting until I'm
Speaker 2: in my sixties to travel. I think that's an awesome thing.
Speaker 2: But you're doing at the expense of future comfort, and
Speaker 2: that's a trade off you have to accept.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think well, first, I think our generation I'm a sennial.
Speaker 4: I guess they call us these folks who were born,
Speaker 4: you know, late seventies, early eighties, and we're sort of
Speaker 4: sandwiched in the middle.
Speaker 3: We grew up.
Speaker 4: Without email and without tech, and then graduated college and
Speaker 4: suddenly all you know, so we went out into the
Speaker 4: professional world really on equipped, really uh to to understand
Speaker 4: what it's all meant and what it what it asks
Speaker 4: of us. But to your point, you know, I think
Speaker 4: this generation, the younger generation, is seeing these things, but
Speaker 4: they're also seeing that the mass doesn't add up, right
Speaker 4: and without without stoking a political fire, I mean, the
Speaker 4: truth is that you know, the numbers just do not
Speaker 4: support working at that kind of level. You know that
Speaker 4: that past generations did, right, We're we're seeing that we're
Speaker 4: getting less for our money. We're seeing that prices for
Speaker 4: even homes, right, which is like this major symbol of
Speaker 4: our financial and material success, right, that is a different
Speaker 4: proportion of our income. It is a much much larger
Speaker 4: buy in than it has ever been before. We're seeing
Speaker 4: that even the cost of vacations right, proportional to what
Speaker 4: people make per year, has gone up. So all those things,
Speaker 4: I mean, those are small examples, but there are plenty
Speaker 4: in a list as long of sort of where the
Speaker 4: math isn't masthing right.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I hate the fact by the way that older people
Speaker 2: in particular and maybe but you know, you can work
Speaker 2: hard to or three or four jobs, but that's not
Speaker 2: the same as it was when we were young, when
Speaker 2: you were when I was young, certainly, and for you
Speaker 2: and if you're older, if you know, in your sixties, seventies,
Speaker 2: eighties or whatever, it's a whole different dynamic.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: You could work, you know, four different full time jobs
Speaker 2: and still have a hard time servicing your debt. There's inflation.
Speaker 2: Inflation has got up and wages have not kept up.
Speaker 2: And we've seen the gap between GDP and wages just
Speaker 2: continue to grow further and further apart. It's a real deal.
Speaker 2: Don't be dismissive of younger people say, Man, I'm working,
Speaker 2: you know, I just I can't get ahead. Well, you
Speaker 2: need to work harder. Well, you know, if you're up
Speaker 2: there in age, yeah, maybe you worked hard, but your
Speaker 2: money went a lot fur than today. And we're not
Speaker 2: even talking about getting buried in college debt and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. And so I think that work is becoming
Speaker 2: less important to individual But I would say that work
Speaker 2: is the the business of the United States, the business
Speaker 2: of America's business, and that means people have to work.
Speaker 2: And so if you're not willing to do that at
Speaker 2: some point, are you going to do it less? And
Speaker 2: God bless you if you that's your choice, but you
Speaker 2: stand a high likelihood that AI is going to come
Speaker 2: in and fill that void.
Speaker 4: Well, I think now it is it is going to
Speaker 4: not only fill the void, it's going to blow the
Speaker 4: void to miery is here. And I think where we are, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily completely emotionally prepared for what's about
Speaker 4: to happen, for the losses that we're going to see.
Speaker 4: Not to be doomsday about it, because I think there's
Speaker 4: there is a scenario where this can be helpful to humanity.
Speaker 4: This can be helpful to UH, to the economy, and
Speaker 4: also to our to our day to day. But we've
Speaker 4: got to have really, really much larger conversations and at
Speaker 4: the highest levels.
Speaker 3: Of power about how we use.
Speaker 4: AI in order to benefit the masses. Right and right
Speaker 4: now it's in the hands of a handful of corporations
Speaker 4: that are only going to use it for their specific
Speaker 4: gain and goal, and so it's it's really, you know,
Speaker 4: now is the time to be having a conversation, to
Speaker 4: be pushing back and to.
Speaker 3: Be speaking to power to say, hey, you.
Speaker 4: Know, while this is going to change humanity, how is
Speaker 4: everyone going to benefit?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And I don't think everyone needs to necessarily. I'm not
Speaker 4: talking about you know, outright socialism. I'm talking about having
Speaker 4: conversations about how we fuel capitalism with things like AI. Right,
Speaker 4: this is world changing, This is life altering for all
Speaker 4: of humanity. And I think we've got to wake up
Speaker 4: to how significant a change is coming and start to
Speaker 4: really have serious conversations about how that gets spread out,
Speaker 4: right among among three hundred million people here in the
Speaker 4: US and obviously more across the world.
Speaker 3: But how do you bring that benefit?
Speaker 4: And I'm not an AI specialist, but the question to
Speaker 4: be asked is how do you bring that benefit to
Speaker 4: as many people as possible?
Speaker 2: Probably going to make things worse where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, look at the ads for everything. That's technologys
Speaker 2: just going to make your life so much either, No,
Speaker 2: it's not just going to make it more complex. I'll
Speaker 2: have more different things to do and more passwords to
Speaker 2: remember and crap like that. And I get why younger
Speaker 2: people are checking out. And maybe we've peaked at that too,
Speaker 2: because how much of this do you think we had
Speaker 2: a glimpse of life when COVID went on. I mean,
Speaker 2: we look back at COVID. It was a scary time.
Speaker 2: For sure, we didn't know where this thing was headed.
Speaker 2: But for a lot of people listening to the early
Speaker 2: days anyway, it was like, wait a minute, hold on
Speaker 2: a second, I can work from home. I can work remotely.
Speaker 2: I don't have that now if you lost your job
Speaker 2: obviously because of that's a different story or a riff.
Speaker 2: But for most people it's like, Okay, I can work
Speaker 2: from home. What does that look like? I'm in my
Speaker 2: pajamas and it's like, you know what, nothing that we're
Speaker 2: not going to go out and socialize because everything's closed.
Speaker 2: It's amazing how in just a few years we've gotten
Speaker 2: way far away from that we had to take of
Speaker 2: like slowing life down. But clearly those Americans we don't
Speaker 2: want that we've real returned to office is the thing.
Speaker 2: We've ramped it all up, and I think we exceeded
Speaker 2: where we were in twenty twenty before COVID really hit.
Speaker 4: I mean, so many of the numbers are bearing out
Speaker 4: that we are back with a vention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, you.
Speaker 3: Know, And I think part of that.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of reasons you could point
Speaker 4: to for why we went back to normal, but one
Speaker 4: of the things I think that's really important is that
Speaker 4: we were committed to it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: We we had we had a thirty year mortgage, right,
Speaker 4: not a five or ten year or fifteen, Right, we
Speaker 4: had a we had jobs that all of it. I'm
Speaker 4: not ever saying that, you know, people don't have to
Speaker 4: go and work and make a living, but I do
Speaker 4: think that we went back very easily, and we went
Speaker 4: back sort of because the story was sold to us
Speaker 4: that you know, normal is normal is good, Normal.
Speaker 3: Is what we need in our lives.
Speaker 4: And we've got to get back to the over consumption
Speaker 4: and we've got to get back.
Speaker 3: To the go, go go and the run gun run,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: And I think it just behooves all of us to
Speaker 4: kind of just remember that in those moments when the
Speaker 4: chips were down and things looked really dark, you know
Speaker 4: what was important to us? Right?
Speaker 3: What did we run to? Who are the people we
Speaker 3: turned to? What are the things that we did?
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way to recreate that moment, and
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to, but there was a great value
Speaker 4: in it, right, There was great value in sort of
Speaker 4: understanding like, oh wow, my life actually boiled down to.
Speaker 5: These ten fifteen people, like these.
Speaker 3: Few things that I love to do, these people that
Speaker 3: I love, this recipe that I like to make.
Speaker 4: Whatever it is right and tearying that forward can be
Speaker 4: a difficult process, but I think you know, the first
Speaker 4: step that sort of recognizing it, even writing it down,
Speaker 4: being really aware of kind of you know, what was
Speaker 4: it in that moment that I ran to that was
Speaker 4: valuable to me and meaningful for me? And how can
Speaker 4: I bring that forward in my life? But I think
Speaker 4: you're totally right at COVID with this weird exercise and
Speaker 4: anti socialism.
Speaker 2: Right guys, and we went we really don't want this
Speaker 2: or that's not expected of us anymore. It's it is fascinating.
Speaker 2: Please don't subscribe. Thanks. It's Julio Vincent Cambudo on the
Speaker 2: Scotts slun Show seven hundred WW taking back your time
Speaker 2: and attention and purpose in this world, in this crazy,
Speaker 2: crazy world. Thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 3: All the best, thanks for having me you well.
Speaker 2: Thanks man. News in just minutes here including the forecast
Speaker 2: as well. The stuff should be out of here and
Speaker 2: well next few minutes. Not already for you, but man,
Speaker 2: the wall of snow was no joke this morning, was it?
Speaker 2: Full details and the aftermath and minutes here on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLWT. It's a Scott Sloan show on seven hundred
Speaker 2: WLW welcome to it. You know, if anything I try
Speaker 2: to be I don't know, consistent, Consistency's apartment and we
Speaker 2: lose it. We live in a world where we're very inconsistent.
Speaker 2: People are very inconsistent with what they believe, and they
Speaker 2: ascribe to one of you, and if anything challenges that,
Speaker 2: they hated or just simply ignored and go give you
Speaker 2: the yeah butt. It's like, look, if you're gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna think what way, Here's what I stand for. And
Speaker 2: regardless of who else thinks that way. We had a
Speaker 2: political party, religion, whatever it might be, like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: like to call out bs. I'm just tired of being
Speaker 2: smoke blowing up. May you know what? So typically when
Speaker 2: we have weather events like we just experienced right now,
Speaker 2: which is a wall of snow, I would call out
Speaker 2: the TV climate terrorists for trying to scare us and
Speaker 2: work us up into a froth and lather about the
Speaker 2: fact that we've got some snow flags flying around. And
Speaker 2: in that regard, you know, it's not like this is
Speaker 2: Atlanta or Houston or Phoenix. You get snow there, that's
Speaker 2: a crisis, right, We're not prepared to deal with that. Sure,
Speaker 2: we saw what happened to wear an old miss right
Speaker 2: where they got the storm came in. The weren't prepared there.
Speaker 2: They would add plows. Here in Cincinnati, we get snow.
Speaker 2: It's not like this is Michigan. We get snow. Man,
Speaker 2: we're kind of used to. We got a little more
Speaker 2: snow this year than we have in years past. CBG.
Speaker 2: I think thirty six inches of snow. Normally they get
Speaker 2: fifteen or eighteen. It's like, okay, almost double. It's that's
Speaker 2: a bit of snow. But we deal. We deal. And
Speaker 2: so when they come on and you know, they're driving
Speaker 2: around in their cars and showing you the live view
Speaker 2: even though it's not snowing out, it's like what you're
Speaker 2: driving around showing me a live view of nothing. It's
Speaker 2: a road and you're driving like sixty five miles an hour,
Speaker 2: So it's not a problem. Or standing up by the
Speaker 2: salt dome with a ruler. So I said, I always turned,
Speaker 2: you know, pull the curtain back and turn the camera
Speaker 2: around on us because we are guilty here at this
Speaker 2: radio station, seven hundred W is long always made fun
Speaker 2: of climate terrorism. That for the first time I can remember,
Speaker 2: we are now turning that accusation, that sticky finger towards us.
Speaker 2: We're looking in the mirror going we are guilty of it.
Speaker 2: Here at the big one here is seven hundred WW
Speaker 2: matt Reese.
Speaker 6: Big snowflakes falling, no breeze, looks like a holiday movie set.
Speaker 6: You almost welcome snowfalls like this. They're friendly. A crunch
Speaker 6: underfoot here on my deck, but melts on the driveway.
Speaker 6: This is the way we live in Cincinnati. Yesterday it
Speaker 6: was a spring forward kind of a day with warmer
Speaker 6: weather today, back to winter, which comes to an end
Speaker 6: three weeks from tomorrow. Here on the west side, the
Speaker 6: ruler is out and it measures two inches of snow
Speaker 6: from Green Township. Matt Reeese News Radio seven hundred wlubs.
Speaker 2: Too much the friendly snow for it's like a friendly snow.
Speaker 2: It is pretty out there. I'll give him that. You
Speaker 2: look outside, I look it melted on the roads, but
Speaker 2: stuck on the trees. It's like cleans things up a
Speaker 2: little bit, sout that gray salty nastiness pretty for a minute,
Speaker 2: all starts melting and then we're back to that again.
Speaker 2: But you know, I attack the climbate terists on our
Speaker 2: local news because you know, they're out there. They're driving
Speaker 2: around and trying to work hip in a fraud. We're
Speaker 2: going to go to Kroger, see if milk and bread,
Speaker 2: and that's why we do that. You know, if people
Speaker 2: watch that and get a stream of that and then
Speaker 2: they lose their mind thinking, wow, this is a real crisis.
Speaker 2: One it's not, but I would live. I'll give the
Speaker 2: folks on TV, our friends and TV a lot of
Speaker 2: credit because at least they will get in their company
Speaker 2: owned vehicle and drive to where the perceived problem is.
Speaker 2: I'll actually drive to the salt dome with a ruler.
Speaker 2: Our guy is Reeses out on his own deck. I
Speaker 2: mean the courage that he has to face the inclement weather,
Speaker 2: this last dash of severe weather we had this morning,
Speaker 2: to go out on the deck of his home in
Speaker 2: Green Township. To actually walk on the deck. That takes
Speaker 2: real journalistic courage. To hold the microphone down and hear
Speaker 2: the sounds of a grown man walking on his deck.
Speaker 2: It's unprecedented journalism, is what That is unprecedented. And he's
Speaker 2: never going to talk to me again, ultimately, that is
Speaker 2: the goldless thing. Never never to talk to me. There
Speaker 2: he is, there's Matt braving the elements. Boy, I hope
Speaker 2: to god you put a coat on? Did you leave?
Speaker 2: Did you like run a string from the door to
Speaker 2: the deck so you could find your way back during
Speaker 2: the blizzard? Did you did you like bread crumbs down?
Speaker 2: Did you have what about you should have brought out
Speaker 2: with you, matt on your back deck a Saint Bernard,
Speaker 2: because that way if they hurt, I mean, God forbid.
Speaker 2: We just had that tragedy with the avalanche. But the
Speaker 2: snow happens, you snow could have fallen off his roof
Speaker 2: and I mean absolutely just flowed down a from her
Speaker 2: from high and probably you know, went down his collar.
Speaker 2: And that's just uncomfortable. You get that snow down your collar,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, it's like an ice cream headache. It's
Speaker 2: it's a terrible thing. Maybe running the house, Get have
Speaker 2: some tea in advil for that. The braveness and they
Speaker 2: say journalism, they say boots on the ground, journalism. Herd
Speaker 2: enting journalist said, nope, not here, not not with our
Speaker 2: good friend Matthew Reese. The latest on the Savannah Guthrie tragedy. Uh,
Speaker 2: because there's another turn in this thing. It's certainly it's
Speaker 2: just not good if you look at it. Obviously, we'll
Speaker 2: get that in right after a quick time out slowly
Speaker 2: back on seven hundred w W Slooney seven hundred w
Speaker 2: welw who moment last night with Jack Hughes, the Star,
Speaker 2: the game winner, the man himself in New Jersey, NHL
Speaker 2: opens the second one I second half of the season.
Speaker 2: I should say about twenty five games left. Play started
Speaker 2: last night after the heroes welcome it's a State of
Speaker 2: the Union standing ovation or he and the Sabers. My
Speaker 2: Sabers are in town. There Jersey and th Thompson, also
Speaker 2: in the US men's gold winning team, were there and
Speaker 2: the crowd gave them both the standing ovation. Really really
Speaker 2: cool moment in the return of the NHL. Thanks for
Speaker 2: our friends at Dorothy Lane Market of course the original
Speaker 2: location in Dayton, but also the new one in Mason,
Speaker 2: I guess the newer one in Mason anyway, and drop
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Speaker 2: absolutely crazy for Italian food, and I will say there
Speaker 2: lasagna Is was absolutely incredibly adressing Lasagna off and they
Speaker 2: did it right too. They had the bechamel in their
Speaker 2: little white sauce along with the Marinara and the little
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Speaker 2: absolutely perfect. Chef Tommy crushing it Italian meatballs Maide in
Speaker 2: house too, the Rosemary Ficasha Tiremasu absolutely fantastic, all made
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Speaker 2: and in most cases is better than you could make
Speaker 2: it home. And I know that goes saleon typically he
Speaker 2: picks up up at a store, grocery store and hey,
Speaker 2: it's okay, this is it's better than you can make
Speaker 2: it home. Trusting me. Thanks again our friends at Dorothy
Speaker 2: Lane Market. So we have movement here in the United States.
Speaker 2: After what happened to well in the UK, we now
Speaker 2: have movement here with the Epstein case, Larry Summers resigning
Speaker 2: from his role at Harvard because of his ties there.
Speaker 2: Hillary and Bill Clinton's depositions are being held in New York.
Speaker 2: In connection with that, the former Secretary of State Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton gives her interview today Bill Clinton. President Clinton is
Speaker 2: set to sit in tomorrow and according to the House
Speaker 2: Deposition rules, both interviews will be videotaped and transcribed and
Speaker 2: hopefully that will be released as opposed to what we
Speaker 2: didn't get so far. And you talk to the folks
Speaker 2: who you know the Epstein Justice, folks like Peach Chin
Speaker 2: who had on the show number of times, probably have
Speaker 2: them on in the near future. That you've got literally
Speaker 2: six million pages, only three have been released, and all
Speaker 2: of those heavily redacted. And even if you remember Congress,
Speaker 2: the idea is, well, if you're Congress, you can see
Speaker 2: the stuff, sure you can, but the redacted stuff you
Speaker 2: can't see. So there's a lot of names in there.
Speaker 2: Now I get trying to protect individuals from being falsely
Speaker 2: accused and being docked because they're in here. I mean,
Speaker 2: I bring that life touch thing up. That star has
Speaker 2: gone from Kentucky to a high now where parents are
Speaker 2: going well, a minute. I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: this outfit taking pictures of my kid because they're ties
Speaker 2: to Epstein and even though it's twice removed from any
Speaker 2: money that may him involved with him, we tend to
Speaker 2: lose our minds when it comes to issues like is
Speaker 2: that rightly?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 2: Rightly?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: You just hope something is going to come in this
Speaker 2: and it's not just Hillary and Billy. I mean, you
Speaker 2: go to be fair, and I know a lot of
Speaker 2: Republicans would love to see nothing more than Hillary and
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton get jammed up. But it then means there's
Speaker 2: more victims and that's horrible. But you know, politics aside,
Speaker 2: and again back to the consistency thing. It should be
Speaker 2: anyone involved with this, do we deserve to know names?
Speaker 2: And how far do you go to protect them? Interesting question.
Speaker 2: It's along the lines of my guest at eleven o
Speaker 2: seven today, Jack Ryner, a long time first amendm attorney
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. My buddy Jack will come on to
Speaker 2: talk about the serious threat of deep fake porn. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've heard this story or not, and
Speaker 2: it made a lot of headlines I think over Christmas,
Speaker 2: and maybe didn't hear too much about it. But what
Speaker 2: happened with the Grock chat box. So Groc is elon
Speaker 2: Muck's AI client and they have it on X and
Speaker 2: you can go on Twitter X and put an image
Speaker 2: in there and go, okay, make this person, you know,
Speaker 2: standing on top of Careu tower and it well generate
Speaker 2: it for you. Well literally, when the first nine days
Speaker 2: of that going, that feature going active on X, people
Speaker 2: were uploading images and generated and posted publicly about two
Speaker 2: million sexualized images of women and children in just nine days.
Speaker 2: We're talking four and a half million AI generated images overall.
Speaker 2: Almost half of those involved nudity in this case women
Speaker 2: and children and some men for that matter. And all
Speaker 2: you do is you put the image and say, hey, Groc,
Speaker 2: take off their clothing and these are pick pictures of
Speaker 2: real people, I mean real children. And the bot did
Speaker 2: that and posted it publicly. Horrible. You mean to tell
Speaker 2: me that, like the Groc people didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2: That's a huge issue. But you know, we're back to that.
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, if you're gonna do that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: there should be some accountability. Are the laws say? And
Speaker 2: this is not happening in a vacuum, by the way,
Speaker 2: this one off story because their ties to us. What's
Speaker 2: happening in Lawrenceburg. I'm sure you hear that story. In
Speaker 2: middle and high school, there where kids who are wrapped
Speaker 2: up in sextortion cases. And so I'm killing themselves because
Speaker 2: you know, they sent someone a picture of themselves naked
Speaker 2: and the person or the individual they sent it to
Speaker 2: turned out not to be who they thought it was.
Speaker 2: And then they turn around and blackmail the kids, saying,
Speaker 2: we're going to put this all over the place and
Speaker 2: ruin your life unless you send us a gift card
Speaker 2: or money. And these kids wind up doing that or
Speaker 2: killing themselves. The case may be a horrible thing, and
Speaker 2: I think that that's from the same cloth. Those two
Speaker 2: stories kind of work together and it's just awful. But
Speaker 2: the times in which we live, I think AIS we
Speaker 2: know we're worried about it taking our jobs. We're worrying
Speaker 2: about a lot of things with AI. This is another
Speaker 2: one to worry about. As much as it's going to
Speaker 2: make our lives easier, there's a threat there and this
Speaker 2: is a big one. We'll get to that eleven oh
Speaker 2: seventh day on the show on seven hundred WLW. For
Speaker 2: almost a month now, the search for Nancy Nancy Guthrie's
Speaker 2: and it's been dragging on for a while, thousands of leads,
Speaker 2: and you just have a sense this isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 2: And now it's it's pretty clear. You know, someone brought
Speaker 2: up yesterday. I think on the show, you hear this
Speaker 2: is Look, well, why are they just doing a million
Speaker 2: dollars now? Is the reward goes? I think that's basically
Speaker 2: because if you start with too much money, you're going
Speaker 2: to get way much more noise. So many more people
Speaker 2: are out there to go and simply fabricated reason or
Speaker 2: lead in order to get the money that they wouldn't
Speaker 2: for the fifty grand, but it's less likely, and I
Speaker 2: think when they go, hey, we're doing a million dollars
Speaker 2: a million dollar reward now fifty one hundred and hour
Speaker 2: a million, like now, it's about trying to get the
Speaker 2: people around the individual or individuals responsible for her abduction
Speaker 2: and kidnapping and presumably murder, to get them to turn
Speaker 2: on the people they know, that's what this is. At
Speaker 2: fifty grand, they're like, I don't know, maybe he gets
Speaker 2: the ransom or whatever's going on, but for a million dollars,
Speaker 2: you know, you may have a family member that rolls
Speaker 2: on you. You know, Ted Kazinski is where he is
Speaker 2: now because of a family member rolling on for I
Speaker 2: don't think for a roar and maybe did get a reward,
Speaker 2: I don't remember. But you know, the investigators now think
Speaker 2: that the profile here of this individual is not a
Speaker 2: typical kidnapping, ransom suspect and it's more of a personal
Speaker 2: or revenge driven type of thing. But some of the
Speaker 2: characteristics there, and there may be a connection to a
Speaker 2: family member. Now the family has been vindicated at this point,
Speaker 2: but there could be a tie to Savannah's father died
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight. But that's where they're going now.
Speaker 2: But the one million dollars is going to get a
Speaker 2: ton more leads. But it's about trying to get the
Speaker 2: individuals around that person or persons who abducted her to
Speaker 2: roll on them. That's I think that's what that is
Speaker 2: about right there. But now we're almost whatt a month
Speaker 2: into this thing. It's it's clearly and I think you know,
Speaker 2: based on Savannah Guthrie's last video, she knows that public
Speaker 2: interurce is waning on this and you know, eventually the
Speaker 2: law enforcements. We have to focus on some other things
Speaker 2: because crime never sleeps. There's gonna be more cases to
Speaker 2: solve out there. And you just wonder if this turns
Speaker 2: into a cold case. And I don't even know what
Speaker 2: that period is actually how long before they consider a
Speaker 2: case cold. I don't think they're anywhere near that at
Speaker 2: this point. Similar it's all high profile, but at eighty
Speaker 2: four needing medication. You know, one of the working out
Speaker 2: my working theory is this individual. You know, this was
Speaker 2: in a you know, like adjacent Stay Them thriller where
Speaker 2: they're kidnapping you know, they're kidnapping a loved one and
Speaker 2: he's got to go and find them, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's movies. This is more like you know, I
Speaker 2: think the thing that got me was when the individual
Speaker 2: showed up to her door, took leaves and tried to
Speaker 2: match the camera with that. That's not like a well
Speaker 2: throught out type of you know, you think you'd scope
Speaker 2: the property, go there's a ring camera there, and then
Speaker 2: come back and you know, either disabled knock it off
Speaker 2: or spray paint on something like that. But you know,
Speaker 2: trying to cover it up with leaves is like you
Speaker 2: didn't think of that, so I guess that's my experts
Speaker 2: think this is kind of amateurish that way, and why
Speaker 2: maybe but her personal connection opposed to doing it for money,
Speaker 2: because the ransom thing just dried up right away. We
Speaker 2: thought initially it's like okay, holder for rams, and that
Speaker 2: just it went away and makes you think that, okay, there,
Speaker 2: that was never ever in play, and so why did
Speaker 2: they capture It has to be almost a personal connection, right,
Speaker 2: And just the way that they took her away, I
Speaker 2: guess is and not knowing that she needed medicine. I
Speaker 2: think maybe it's like, okay, I kidnapped her and then
Speaker 2: she needs medicine which you're unaware of, and she dies
Speaker 2: because she has never medicine. And now it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: now what do we do or what do I do?
Speaker 2: If it's an individual and God knows where the bodies
Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, you want to hope against
Speaker 2: all odds that she's still alive, but that's that's been
Speaker 2: less likely for a long time now. It's such a
Speaker 2: sad thing too, because it's fading away now as we speak.
Speaker 2: But you know, the idea of due of people are going, well,
Speaker 2: why why didn't you just give a million to begin with, well,
Speaker 2: because you get too many lunatics coming out to try
Speaker 2: and get the million dollars. We saw that with a
Speaker 2: fifty grand, although on one hundred grand, a million grand,
Speaker 2: a million, it's a million grand. It's a new number.
Speaker 2: So yeah, in that regard, I think it's just trying
Speaker 2: to get people to flip on the individual who did this,
Speaker 2: because can you actually do without telling anyone? That's really
Speaker 2: the hard part, you know. We thought cameras are everywhere
Speaker 2: and they may have more video evidence here but that
Speaker 2: they're leading on to. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 2: like it's awfully tough to get away with things with
Speaker 2: all the cameras around, but at the same time, to
Speaker 2: do something like this and not tell anyone as almost
Speaker 2: an impossibility. Sadly unfortunately, seven hundred ww iHeart Media, Solute,
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Speaker 2: snow appears to be over. According to Matt Reeves, it's
Speaker 2: a pretty snow it's very theatrical as what this is.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll play that audio with him walking on his
Speaker 2: decking en. It's very brave anyway, very gent very gentle.
Speaker 2: Snow I believe too. I was just try your boy
Speaker 2: Reese by the way, minutes ago here for being what
Speaker 2: having the break? It's being so brave as to walk
Speaker 2: out on his own deck and file this report about
Speaker 2: crashing my lead man, Oh, you're gonna play it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, good, you gotta he If you just tuned in,
Speaker 2: you got to hear this. I make fun of climate
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Speaker 2: scare about the weather. Our own Matt Reeves is exceeded.
Speaker 2: He's like, literally broke through that wall right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: how brave is it to go on your own deck
Speaker 2: and file a report on the radio. It's incredible. We'll
Speaker 2: do that and when we return on Hi, Rep. Dave
Speaker 2: Thomas from up in North should Ohio and property taxes
Speaker 2: all together? Yay, okay, well, how are we gonna fund stuff?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 2: Do you hear what they think the sales tax would
Speaker 2: be if we got rid of property tax? Next on
Speaker 2: the Scott Slone Show, Home of the reds seven hundred
Speaker 2: ww sincent Do you.
Speaker 1: Want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Scott Flum show back on seven hundred w welw. Ohio
Speaker 2: activists want to eliminate your property build tax entirely. Sound good? Okay,
Speaker 2: well wait do they hear what it could do to
Speaker 2: the sales tax? Right? So, rising property taxes are pricing
Speaker 2: a lot homeowners out of their homes. We've seen increases
Speaker 2: mile of twenty eight percent, but all the way up
Speaker 2: to one hundred and thirty percent across southwest Ohio here,
Speaker 2: and the Committee to Abolished Property Taxes is gathering signatures
Speaker 2: or a constitutional amendment that they want to put on
Speaker 2: the November ballots. So what's the good, the bad, and
Speaker 2: the ugly of this? Ohio Representative David Thomas out of Jefferson,
Speaker 2: I said, Jefferson, not Jeffersonville. That's in the now up
Speaker 2: here Ashtra Bulah Warren, Northeast Ohio. David, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me one.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Governor de Wine warned about abolishing taxes
Speaker 2: and we'd see the tax rate jump up to twenty
Speaker 2: percent from the five point seventy five now and other
Speaker 2: people say they're full of it. So, uh, do you
Speaker 2: agree with the math? Is the math math on this one?
Speaker 2: And even if it's close to accurate, can you justify
Speaker 2: that trade off?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. I think this shows just
Speaker 7: how upset and frustrated people are with the property tax system.
Speaker 7: But the math math if you do essentially a one
Speaker 7: for one, so right now, roughly twenty four billion dollars
Speaker 7: is how much property taxes collect in every year, and
Speaker 7: all of that money stays the local level that funds
Speaker 7: your local services. And if you were to eliminate that
Speaker 7: twenty four billion, you would have to and I would
Speaker 7: assume most people would still want their local police departments
Speaker 7: to fire, their road services, all those different types of things,
Speaker 7: and so you'd have to pull that revenue from somewhere else. Now,
Speaker 7: many folks who are very strong behind abolishing you know, say, hey,
Speaker 7: I'm perfectly fine to have a much much higher sales
Speaker 7: tax if that means I no longer have it on
Speaker 7: the property tax side, right, And so's that's kind of
Speaker 7: one of the trade offs that people have to think about.
Speaker 7: But twenty percent, you know, that is essentially yes, that
Speaker 7: that's the number that we would likely have to get
Speaker 7: to because areas like yours down in southwest Ohio, areas
Speaker 7: like mine in northeast Ohio, we have other states around us,
Speaker 7: and so you're going to have people who leave the
Speaker 7: state to buy things. You're going to have less activity
Speaker 7: because things are going to be much more expensive. So
Speaker 7: you have to the sales tax even higher than what
Speaker 7: you would directly need to replace that about twenty four
Speaker 7: billion dollars.
Speaker 2: That's a question. So let's say, just for giggles here,
Speaker 2: that they're successful. I get on the ballot, people okay, great,
Speaker 2: I don't have to pay any more proper dexts my
Speaker 2: home and are great, I don't have to pay this anymore.
Speaker 2: They came out and said, look, it's not our responsibility
Speaker 2: to figure out how to replace that twenty plus billion
Speaker 2: dollars in annual revenue that falls on the General Assembly.
Speaker 2: People like yourself, David Thomas. What's your answer? Where would
Speaker 2: even begin to look for that kind of money? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're saying the twenty percent tax wouldn't work, but what
Speaker 2: other options are there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they are correct, and that's kind of the I
Speaker 7: think the committee quite often, I know the leadership personally
Speaker 7: they've allowed us to do a lot of the reform
Speaker 7: bills that we've done this past year because people now
Speaker 7: realize just holp set folks are a property taxes, but
Speaker 7: essentially it is our responsibility. There's actually a constitutional amendment
Speaker 7: two years ago in North Dakota that very similar abolish everything.
Speaker 7: It failed because it put in essentially the replacement revenue,
Speaker 7: and I think people then saw in the ballot, WHOA,
Speaker 7: this will happen if the abolished and so they said no.
Speaker 7: But there's no way, no physical way that Ohio would
Speaker 7: go up to a twenty percent sales tax. It'd be impossible. Right,
Speaker 7: So then you have to look at essentially cutting costs.
Speaker 7: You've got to decrease how much money you're actually going
Speaker 7: to need for those services.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I tend to lean more libertarian all
Speaker 2: this stuff, but in the way I look at it
Speaker 2: is looks it's the least bad tax in the world.
Speaker 2: In this group in Midlely a way, we don't like
Speaker 2: property taxes, but we don't really want to cut services
Speaker 2: that they fund. Despite going you know, government's bloated and
Speaker 2: fat and dozed and all that stuff, which I get,
Speaker 2: But when it comes to services, that you use are available,
Speaker 2: then we don't want to do that. So it's contradictory
Speaker 2: on our part for sure. And I think property taxes
Speaker 2: just are generally less Distortionay. You know you can, as
Speaker 2: you mentioned being in northeast Ohio and us here in
Speaker 2: southwest Ohio. Well, you know, if you don't like the
Speaker 2: prices because the sales tax is twenty percent, you can
Speaker 2: choose to do business in India and Kentucky. Well, the
Speaker 2: same is true with property tax. A lot of people
Speaker 2: I work with live in Kentucky for that reason. So
Speaker 2: you can move to places where you're less heavily taxed
Speaker 2: with what the local sales tax and income taxes. I mean,
Speaker 2: real estate generally has to stay put. If you're a
Speaker 2: business owner, you can choose where you live. But I
Speaker 2: guess you know that this is the Hey, I don't
Speaker 2: want to pay taxes, but I want someone else to
Speaker 2: pay for it. Well, who's that going to be?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's a very interesting point you s brought
Speaker 7: up about the business side. So businesses currently pay about
Speaker 7: a third to a half, depending on your local area
Speaker 7: and what kind of makes up the community, they pay
Speaker 7: a third to a half of the property tax bill.
Speaker 7: So one of the I guess the issues of concerns
Speaker 7: that I have is if you abolish and get rid
Speaker 7: of all property taxation, you're also been getting rid of
Speaker 7: property taxes on your walmarts and on your manufacturing and
Speaker 7: your your data centers. Bring up that fun topic, and
Speaker 7: you know then what happens when you have to move
Speaker 7: it over the income and sales tax are actually shifting
Speaker 7: that over to the individual as opposed to have in
Speaker 7: the business pay. So there's a lot of kind of
Speaker 7: philosophical questions about what could happen and what's a better
Speaker 7: way to do this, And I think it just brings
Speaker 7: up the whole idea that we can't We've not done
Speaker 7: any type of major changes on a property tax system
Speaker 7: in fifty years. Nineteen seventy six was the last time.
Speaker 7: So it just really shows, you know, we've been overdue,
Speaker 7: and last year we've passed five strong bills plus was
Speaker 7: in the budget to really kind of correct what happened.
Speaker 7: And in my mind, we've essentially now said that the
Speaker 7: frustration that voters have, which is their tax bill goes up,
Speaker 7: they never had to say on it, and it's all
Speaker 7: because of the value spiking local government's getting unvoted wmfalls
Speaker 7: that they just didn't really need. We've essentially stopped that.
Speaker 7: Moving forward, that will not continue. So voters now have
Speaker 7: a lot more of that control with what levees are
Speaker 7: on the ballot, what do they actually want to pay
Speaker 7: for and support. But you know what percentage of levees
Speaker 7: pass a last year in November? Okay, eighty seven percent.
Speaker 7: So despite there being hundreds of thousand centatures being collected
Speaker 7: a lot of people angry at property taxes, voters still
Speaker 7: approved eighty seven percent of the levees across Ohio. And
Speaker 7: there's a disconnect there. But there's also a thing of
Speaker 7: sense that if you're asked, hey, do you want to
Speaker 7: support your local fire department with this levee for a
Speaker 7: fire truck, typically you're going to say yes, yeah. But
Speaker 7: if you're forced to pay over five hundred or one
Speaker 7: thousand dollars more year tax bill and you had no
Speaker 7: say over that, that's when you get really upset, and
Speaker 7: rightfully so, because that shouldn't happen. So we're correcting that
Speaker 7: moving forward.
Speaker 2: He is Ohio represent of David Thomas, and he is
Speaker 2: the foremost expert in the General Assembly when it comes
Speaker 2: to this property tax you should. I'm having them on
Speaker 2: because they're trying to get this on the ball. A
Speaker 2: group called Abolish Ohio Property Taxes gathering signatures for a
Speaker 2: constitutional amendment in November that would eliminate our property taxes.
Speaker 2: The problem is they're like, well, we don't know how
Speaker 2: to replace it. That's y'all's job at the In Columbus,
Speaker 2: we just don't want any more. Property taxes could be
Speaker 2: as high as twenty percent or more the sales tax
Speaker 2: we pay in Ohio, which would be devastating to border
Speaker 2: cities like Cincinnati, for example. We already cut the local
Speaker 2: government fund I think back in twenty thirteen, and that
Speaker 2: FOS forced local communities to engage these levies in the
Speaker 2: first place. So if you push to abolish property taxes
Speaker 2: now the state, I mean, the finish what they started, right,
Speaker 2: Aren't you just shifting the burden rather reducing it.
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I get asked a lot your
Speaker 7: state tax dollars pre twenty thirteen per twenty ten used
Speaker 7: to send a ton. I think we had eight income
Speaker 7: tax brackets used to send a ton down to Columbus.
Speaker 7: And then it was Columbus deciding Okay, who's the winners,
Speaker 7: who's the losers, and.
Speaker 3: How much do local communities get?
Speaker 7: And the philosophy from twenty ten to now has been
Speaker 7: you should be sending a whole lot less to Columbus
Speaker 7: and then you have more money to decide do I
Speaker 7: want to support that fire department or the library or whatever,
Speaker 7: look levee, and it's it's kind of local communities than
Speaker 7: picking what type of services they want versus that money
Speaker 7: going on to Columbus and then hoping to come back.
Speaker 7: Because you're absolutely right, we have cut the little government
Speaker 7: fund that's the money that Columbus sends the local government
Speaker 7: in twenty ten. Now every year since then we've actually
Speaker 7: been increased in that percentage and now it's it's not
Speaker 7: that to where it wasn't twenty ten, but it's pretty close. However,
Speaker 7: what is absolutely different than is our income tax rate.
Speaker 7: You know, we're now the lowest flat income tax in
Speaker 7: the nation at two point seventy five percent. Then we're
Speaker 7: going to keep decreasing that. So there's there's trade ops
Speaker 7: with that. But in my mind, less of Columbus more
Speaker 7: in your pocket to the side you might be paying
Speaker 7: more because you're being asked, and you want to support
Speaker 7: those local services. I'd rather that money stay there than
Speaker 7: they come down to the Statehouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is the cost of that local
Speaker 2: money not coming back as well. We have to add
Speaker 2: more and more levees and now we're seeing property tax
Speaker 2: values go up and like and people are now I
Speaker 2: get it, but we we still have to on government.
Speaker 2: Property tax is fun like sixty five percent of local
Speaker 2: government revenue. So school fire police ems? What for you
Speaker 2: in northeast Ohio? What do you tell your constitions if
Speaker 2: this happens and those things will have to reduce? I mean,
Speaker 2: which one do you pick? Can you do without schools,
Speaker 2: fire police or emas well?
Speaker 7: And that's a great point too, so you know, essentially
Speaker 7: less money from Columbus to lower governments. Your comment of
Speaker 7: they've essentially moved over the levees to help make the
Speaker 7: difference up, but that didn't actually have to be the case.
Speaker 7: And my main kind of comments to my constituents, especially
Speaker 7: my local governments, have been we have to change that
Speaker 7: mindset that's always the property owner that we go to. Counties,
Speaker 7: for example, have a sales tax option already. We actually
Speaker 7: see Montgomery County funding their social services, not through property
Speaker 7: taxes but through sales tax or Washington County actually decreasing
Speaker 7: their township property taxes and making it up in a
Speaker 7: sales tax. That's one option at the county level. And
Speaker 7: obviously cities and villages they should have the lowest property
Speaker 7: taxes in the state because they have the income tax
Speaker 7: locally and that can vary as well. And schools actually
Speaker 7: have an income tax option also, So there are other
Speaker 7: ways to fund our local governments. We've given different options
Speaker 7: besides just the property needs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that's.
Speaker 7: One thing now, but then abolish happens, I would envision
Speaker 7: I kind of tell folks whatever other option that community has, city, village, township, county,
Speaker 7: they'll likely just increase and move up tremendously that.
Speaker 8: That tax revenue.
Speaker 2: He's Ohio represent David Thomas up in the Ashtabulah Warren area,
Speaker 2: and he is the guy who is the it is
Speaker 2: the foremost expert, I would say in the General Assembly
Speaker 2: on property tax because we're all sweating right now. We're
Speaker 2: seeing rates go up as high as one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty percent here in southwest Ohio. A lot of people
Speaker 2: just screaming, stop the pain. And there's a group out
Speaker 2: there that's trying to get on the ballot November. Just
Speaker 2: that a constitutional amendment that would eliminate Ohio's property tax.
Speaker 2: But we got to pay for fiery ms, school police,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. You'll get in your roope. But we
Speaker 2: had rough winner here. I know you had a rough
Speaker 2: winner too, especially up north. We got hammer down here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, and uh, hey, you know'd be nice if
Speaker 2: we can get some plows out there. That's a question
Speaker 2: as well. So you know, even and you're a Republican.
Speaker 2: Hamlet County Auditor Jessica Miranda is a Democrat, says called
Speaker 2: I had around on a year or so ago talking
Speaker 2: about this, and she said, it's it's tax shifting, not
Speaker 2: tax relief. That we keep cutting its obligations to locals
Speaker 2: from the state and it appears to help taxpayers, but
Speaker 2: it just kicks the can down to a different area.
Speaker 2: It's not really it's just tax shifting. It's not like, wow,
Speaker 2: I got my taxes, go hey, this is great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we still got to pay for stuff. How do
Speaker 2: you do that? It's aid And when you Democrats and
Speaker 2: Republicans agree, it sounds like there's impetus to maybe make
Speaker 2: some change.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that that sels a question is what level
Speaker 7: of government is actually the largest and what is actual
Speaker 7: tax reform? In my mind, actual tax reform is the
Speaker 7: taxpayer paying less overall, and it's the government getting less
Speaker 7: than overall. And if we continue to essentially prompt up
Speaker 7: and make larger one area of government, which would then
Speaker 7: be for example, local government, all that really does is
Speaker 7: actually take your tax money. It doesn't relieve you or
Speaker 7: decrease your burden. It just actually is increasing and almost
Speaker 7: promoting larger growth. A perfect example of that, I say,
Speaker 7: is the school systems. So you've probably heard and everyone
Speaker 7: says all of the state's cutting school funding, the state's
Speaker 7: cutting school funding. We have actually been increasing your tax
Speaker 7: dollars to public schools since twenty twenty, for example, every
Speaker 7: year almost a billion to two billion dollars and so
Speaker 7: tremendous amounts more in taxpayer dollars going to local schools.
Speaker 7: And if that theory were correct, that essentially the statements
Speaker 7: needs to pay more to local governments, then our school
Speaker 7: system should not need as much property tax money. But
Speaker 7: what actually happened over the last five years as the
Speaker 7: state has increased school funding tremendously. Schools have received, asked for,
Speaker 7: taken even more on the property tax side, and essentially
Speaker 7: the philosophy that more is never enough, and so there
Speaker 7: has to be some type of limit, some type of
Speaker 7: control over that government size of government spending, and that's
Speaker 7: essentially trying to decrease in taxes.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned school funding there. That was ruled on
Speaker 2: constitual health. I think even before I was doing talk
Speaker 2: rated for goodness sake back in the nineties, and the
Speaker 2: state still has yeah fully implemented fair school funding. So
Speaker 2: if that disappears, that's a whole other crisis there isn't it.
Speaker 7: The ninety seven decision, and that's the Draff decision. It
Speaker 7: didn't actually say that property taxes were unconstitutional for schools,
Speaker 7: or that it was the taxpayer who was being served unduly.
Speaker 7: It was actually more on the student. So we were
Speaker 7: back then essentially giving a whole bunch of money to
Speaker 7: wealthy areas, wealthy school districts and helping them wealthy kids
Speaker 7: versus your poor kids were really being left out. And
Speaker 7: so now what we essentially do. We've had eight different
Speaker 7: funding formulas since nineteen ninety seven, and we kind of
Speaker 7: balance out the playing fields. So your wealthier areas, your
Speaker 7: state tax dollars still go to those schools, but a
Speaker 7: very smaller amount than your poorer areas. Think of in
Speaker 7: my neck of the woods, East Cleveland's Youngstown City schools,
Speaker 7: those schools receive almost thirty thousand dollars per kid from
Speaker 7: your state tax dollars. Versus your wealthier school districts, those
Speaker 7: received tremendously less. And that's essentially what that constitutional decision
Speaker 7: said we had to move towards, is trying to give
Speaker 7: an equal opportunity for each of those kids, regardless of
Speaker 7: wealthier or poor. But using property taxes or local revenue,
Speaker 7: I think has to be a piece of that school
Speaker 7: funding size. When I tell folks that we spend over
Speaker 7: thirty billion dollars on public schools, their eyes should just
Speaker 7: get wide because that that is over a third to
Speaker 7: almost half of our state budget.
Speaker 2: And look at the results we get. That's a separate
Speaker 2: argument entirely.
Speaker 6: David, Oh, all right, that's insane.
Speaker 2: So I talked to I lot Bill Sites. Bill Sites
Speaker 2: when he was in office, he was part of Mike
Speaker 2: Dewines working group, and they came up with I believe
Speaker 2: twenty targeted relief recommendations, homestead exemptions, deferrals, levy reform, inflation caps. Well,
Speaker 2: why didn't that fix the problem. Why shouldn't have to
Speaker 2: fix the problem. I mean, you put the smartest minds
Speaker 2: out there. They said, Okay, here's the plan, and here
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I joke, I'm the most vetoed legislator right now.
Speaker 7: A lot of these different reforms were actually in the
Speaker 7: state budget last year. The governor vetoed almost all of
Speaker 7: them and then formed his working group to say, okay,
Speaker 7: what what should we do? What if these policies are good,
Speaker 7: bad and you know bill sites. The working group actually
Speaker 7: backed up most of those policies that were in the budget,
Speaker 7: and then other ones too, So we passed five different
Speaker 7: bills this past year. Those bills essentially stop them voted spikes,
Speaker 7: they give a lot more clarity on the ballot voter control,
Speaker 7: and they actually start decreasing tax bills starting second half
Speaker 7: of this year. So those were essentially the biggest changes
Speaker 7: we've made to the property tax system in fifty years.
Speaker 7: We still have a ton more to do, but we
Speaker 7: actually hit almost half of the recommendations of that study
Speaker 7: committee just last year alone. In those five different bills.
Speaker 2: Finally, David should voter listening to this thing, but four
Speaker 2: or against the proposal, maybe getting on the belt in November.
Speaker 7: So I don't think that this is the right thing
Speaker 7: to do. I think that there's a lot of validity,
Speaker 7: and I would not begrudge anyone from voting yes because
Speaker 7: of just how bad the system has gotten. I think
Speaker 7: that we can do a lot of good and a
Speaker 7: lot of changes that does not blow up the system
Speaker 7: and cause us to essentially have to redo everything, because unfortunately,
Speaker 7: there's about a month turnaround from when folks vote to
Speaker 7: when this happens, and you're talking about the largest change
Speaker 7: in Ohio structure in our history happening in about one month.
Speaker 7: I'd rather do that more planned out or kind of
Speaker 7: long term and have those changes actually help an impact
Speaker 7: versus what could happen in that part amount of time.
Speaker 2: Well, we've seen this before. Rests with the marijuana thing
Speaker 2: is that people want something and the legislature doesn't do anything,
Speaker 2: and then they come up with a grassroots effort in
Speaker 2: the legislature steps and said, well, well hold on a second,
Speaker 2: that's kind of what's happening here. We'll find out how
Speaker 2: it plays out again. Ohio represent David Thomas up in
Speaker 2: Jefferson in Northeast ohioh thanks for coming on the show
Speaker 2: this morning. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Be well, it's a Scott's Loan show. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 2: careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's America and we want everyone else to pay for
Speaker 2: what we want. I want something, but you should pay
Speaker 2: for it. Welcome to the United States News and seconds
Speaker 2: here seven hundred ww So is that price Boodashie bottled
Speaker 2: water actually better for you just paying for the label.
Speaker 2: And there's a new trend when it comes to hydration.
Speaker 2: People are drinking hot water. I don't know why we're
Speaker 2: drinking hot water to hydrate themselves. But Sonjay Shaperkrimani's here.
Speaker 2: He is our resident emergency medicine physician, health, food, fitness,
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Speaker 2: Strength in Oakley and his handle is at Dinewell Dock. Sonjay, Welcome,
Speaker 2: How are you brother? Thank you? Son? I'm great. How
Speaker 2: are you. I'm doing FINA A little dehydrated right now.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great topic because most people who
Speaker 2: don't drink it off water to start with, and we
Speaker 2: don't do that now. Typically, Okay, it's a it's thirty
Speaker 2: five eight ounce glasses a day, but I can carry
Speaker 2: around a twenty four onns water bottle and I have
Speaker 2: a couple of those a day. Usually if I'm doing
Speaker 2: a little more physical activity, I might have more. Some
Speaker 2: days I forget and have less. What's the number?
Speaker 9: So that's the hard part, right, because we don't think
Speaker 9: in ounces a lot of the time. Sometimes our bottles
Speaker 9: which you just took us just make be thirsty talking
Speaker 9: about it. Well, it's the numbers if we really want
Speaker 9: to go with something. And something easy to remember is
Speaker 9: you take your weight and you divide it by two,
Speaker 9: and that's how many ounces you should have. And then
Speaker 9: knowing that there's eight ounces in a cup, that you
Speaker 9: can divide it another way would be you know, just
Speaker 9: just for me a fair example, I'm just over two
Speaker 9: hundred pounds, that's about one hundred ounces, which would be
Speaker 9: about twelve cups of water as opposed to the eight
Speaker 9: cups of water that is usually recommended. So usually it's
Speaker 9: it's about total fluid intake in a day for a
Speaker 9: guy should be around three and a half liters and
Speaker 9: for a woman should be about two and a half
Speaker 9: to three lids.
Speaker 2: Okay, And most people go, wow, two hundred hundred ounces.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't turk anywhere near one hundred. I
Speaker 2: thought it was pretty good with water, But should you all?
Speaker 2: Do you also include things like coffee or if you
Speaker 2: drink pop or other form because food has liquid in
Speaker 2: it too, does that count tours?
Speaker 9: That does count towards your your overall So for men,
Speaker 9: three point seven liters is what's recommended, a really easy
Speaker 9: number to remember, but that's total fluid that you take in,
Speaker 9: So that does include all of the liquid, even the
Speaker 9: liquid in your food, so you know a lot of
Speaker 9: vegetables or water, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So that counts towards it.
Speaker 9: So at the end of the day, that's why I
Speaker 9: go with the weight thing, and that's that is the
Speaker 9: water intake you want. So again, for me, two hundred
Speaker 9: pounds becomes one hundred ounces, and that's how much water
Speaker 9: or fluids I wanted.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how good are you doing?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: Horrible?
Speaker 9: But better than I used to be. And that's all
Speaker 9: I chase every day. And so I've I've done some
Speaker 9: things to help. But you actually mentioned something, which is coffee.
Speaker 9: There was a long standing thing that says that coffee
Speaker 9: actually dehydrates you, and we all hear it. So coffee
Speaker 9: tea that dehydrates you.
Speaker 2: It doesn't count.
Speaker 9: Coffee and tea actually do hydrate you, not as much
Speaker 9: because you know, coffee and tea are diuretics, so there
Speaker 9: are off sat a little bit. But the overall net
Speaker 9: is still hydration when you have coffee or tea, so
Speaker 9: it doesn't count like as well as water does. But
Speaker 9: it's pretty it's pretty good still.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, and if you eat fruits and bad too,
Speaker 2: you're probably getting more than most people don't get the
Speaker 2: factor that as well. But okay, two hundred pounds, shoot
Speaker 2: for one hundred hundred. Yeah, either drink more water, lose weight.
Speaker 9: That's that's your That's why not both because it's too
Speaker 9: much to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to be horrible at it. How are
Speaker 2: you with the water?
Speaker 3: I see?
Speaker 2: I tried to to too, Like I think like two
Speaker 2: maybe three of those a day, but now I'm like, well, crap,
Speaker 2: I need drink four of those bare minimum, right.
Speaker 9: I mean, like, you know, we can all do a
Speaker 9: little bit better. As far as drinking the water, sleep
Speaker 9: over it though, because I have some other things. I mean,
Speaker 9: if you drink too much water, you would lose sleep
Speaker 9: because you'd have to get up to peak.
Speaker 2: Well, that's another part of the problem right there. And
Speaker 2: of course you can drink too much water and it's toxic.
Speaker 2: It is toxic.
Speaker 9: But those doses are like fraternity hazing doses of water
Speaker 9: water boarded exactly you were. You know, it's it's hard
Speaker 9: to make yourself toxic on water, but it is possible.
Speaker 2: So you know, as always consult with your physicians. You
Speaker 2: see people walking around Sarah least she's got I know,
Speaker 2: purified water is stilled water, this dn I deionized water.
Speaker 2: You've got alkaline water, electrolyte in handants, water, vitamin water,
Speaker 2: hydrogen water, fluoridated water, water with water, water, crispy water,
Speaker 2: water fed, bacon flavored water, caffeine water actually sounds great bacon.
Speaker 2: I'm in all right, Are you getting anything out of that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I got a smart I only drink smart water.
Speaker 2: It's like you're dumb in the af you needed drink
Speaker 2: seven gallons.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: There are a lot of a lot of things out there,
Speaker 9: and a lot of options, and at the end of
Speaker 9: the day, for most of us, at most times of
Speaker 9: the day, just normal water is as good as anything else.
Speaker 9: Uh you know, we can we can start with well,
Speaker 9: you mentioned the trend on TikTok, which is, you know,
Speaker 9: from the becoming Chinese trend, which is encouraging everyone to
Speaker 9: drink hot water in the morning, which actually has no
Speaker 9: no basis. Really, it doesn't help detoxify your gut or
Speaker 9: anything when you really think about it, you put anything
Speaker 9: in your stomach, Yeah, whatever the water is, it's going
Speaker 9: to go to the to the same temperature your body
Speaker 9: is pretty quickly, so it's not doing anything for you.
Speaker 9: Maybe helping your gut motility the smallest amount, but really hot, cold,
Speaker 9: room temp it's all the same.
Speaker 2: Uh So it's just a livestalle it's Eastern medicine kind
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And you know the thing about anything, any of these
Speaker 9: things we're talking about, as long as they're not toxic,
Speaker 9: is whatever helps you drink more water, that's good.
Speaker 2: It can't chug hot water, so I think I can
Speaker 2: probably drink to challenge me like that, I can try.
Speaker 9: Uh No, it's it makes it harder and water at
Speaker 9: very high temperatures so greater than one hundred and forty
Speaker 9: degrees can cause burns hirosophagus, sure, and also can cause
Speaker 9: it's been linked to causing cancer. And so you definitely
Speaker 9: don't want to have your water too hot, too much
Speaker 9: hot coffee, hot tea drinking can actually be harmful.
Speaker 2: All right, So don't drink all your water hot. I
Speaker 2: don't assure the game, but I've heard too it's like
Speaker 2: if you if you drink a lot of drink ice
Speaker 2: wor chrug ice water, it will cause your metabolism to
Speaker 2: speed up, but probably maybe a couple calories really not ADATs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if that again, it'll warm up to your body
Speaker 9: temperature in second, so by the time it hits your stomach,
Speaker 9: you're good. And speaking of which, you know your stomach
Speaker 9: is the other part. So there's all the alkali water
Speaker 9: out there that basically is a base. So if we
Speaker 9: go back to chemistry, pH is being zero to fourteen.
Speaker 9: Seven is the middle. Less than seven is an acid.
Speaker 9: Your stomach is at one to three for a pH
Speaker 9: that's just over battery acid. So it is it's as
Speaker 9: it's as acidic as it can get. And then you
Speaker 9: put a little bit of alkali in there, and with water,
Speaker 9: it's being in the ocean, so it's not doing much
Speaker 9: at all, and so it's not something that is actually
Speaker 9: going to make a real world impact. So I would
Speaker 9: recommend not wasting your money on.
Speaker 2: Aline alkaline water. What about what about electrolyte in him?
Speaker 2: Does every Because you know, you kind of lost me
Speaker 2: when you go into Taco Bell and they've got a
Speaker 2: power aid coming out of the fountain next to coke.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, I'm too Any professional athletes
Speaker 2: are coming in, you know after two a days going yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the I'm going to get a chiloupa
Speaker 2: and oh I've got power Now. It's just become like
Speaker 2: you don't need that, do you?
Speaker 9: Most of the time you don't need it. That being
Speaker 9: said again, if it's helping you drink water, by all means,
Speaker 9: but it really isn't needed. So all the supplements, all
Speaker 9: the gatorades and power raids, they do have their place.
Speaker 2: You know, they were invented.
Speaker 9: Gatorade was originally invented for the University of Florida, you know,
Speaker 9: the Gators.
Speaker 2: It was invented there and where you're playing football in
Speaker 2: full pads and one hundred and bleep degrees outside. You
Speaker 2: need the exactly you need to replace those salts. You
Speaker 2: need that in Cincinnati in February. Probably not.
Speaker 9: I mean the way the weather's going. Maybe later today
Speaker 9: there'll be ninety and you'll need it. Who knows, but yeah,
Speaker 9: if you're sweating a lot, if you're a person you
Speaker 9: know who in general sweats, if you've had a you know,
Speaker 9: sixty minute workout in the day and you're drenched with sweat, sure,
Speaker 9: but most of the time, plain water is going to
Speaker 9: be your friend, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2: There's also hydrogen water.
Speaker 9: What's that Hydrogen water has just got so this is
Speaker 9: the one that might actually have the H the H
Speaker 9: the H two is it's like all the hs you want.
Speaker 9: It's as crazy H two O two exactly. Well, that's
Speaker 9: hydrogen proxide, Scott, we won't. You don't want to drink
Speaker 9: that at all? Breath It's gonna smell great, yes, but no,
Speaker 9: do not drink hydrogen proxide.
Speaker 2: This is the biggest thing you can learn from this episode.
Speaker 9: Please don't. But the hydrogen water is the Chinese are
Speaker 9: doing it and they're.
Speaker 2: Living one year longer. Than we are, so there must know.
Speaker 9: So hydrogen water actually has some promise, especially in the lab.
Speaker 9: So what it does is that the thought is it's
Speaker 9: helping with the what we call free radicals of oxygen
Speaker 9: in your body, and it's actually been shown to help.
Speaker 9: The problem is it's a kind of unstable thing. The
Speaker 9: second you open a bottle, most of your hydrogen is
Speaker 9: going to escape out of the bottle, and so you're
Speaker 9: not going to really absorb a lot. So in theory
Speaker 9: it's great, and the studies are still coming out. So
Speaker 9: this is one that's in the balance. But if you're
Speaker 9: paying ten times more for that, it's probably not going
Speaker 9: to be worth it. But it doesn't seem to be harmful.
Speaker 9: At the same time, with the way things are. We're
Speaker 9: the debate with RFK Junior over think of floride and water.
Speaker 9: Where are you in that? I'm okay with it. I
Speaker 9: think I probably did and I turned out relatively okay.
Speaker 9: I mean it's questionable. Ask my what's the concern.
Speaker 2: Of the what's the danger and what's the perceived danger
Speaker 2: with flora in the water, what's the.
Speaker 9: I'd have to look into that one more. Scott, I
Speaker 9: can't remember all the details. I can't either, but I know,
Speaker 9: well the floor we shouldn't. You should have a choice
Speaker 9: as to what's in your water.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, but you know, it's the evidence
Speaker 2: is pretty the date, it's pretty good. Since we've been
Speaker 2: doing this as long is you know the amount of
Speaker 2: people whose teeth are riding and you don't see people
Speaker 2: wearing dentures anymore, right, Yeah, because.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the drinking part of is protective. It's also the
Speaker 9: quality of the water we're drinking. Where Cincinnati is one
Speaker 9: of the best in the country, so that actually brings
Speaker 9: up another thing as far as like quality of the water.
Speaker 9: I know, I personally, you know, I start my day
Speaker 9: and this is how I start my count and make
Speaker 9: sure I drink enough water in the day. I have
Speaker 9: thirty ounces of water essentially first thing in the morning,
Speaker 9: and that's straight from the tap. I do have a
Speaker 9: filter on my fridge and we use that, you know sometimes,
Speaker 9: But I'm also okay with the tap water here. I
Speaker 9: believe in it. But that's that's personal preference. And it
Speaker 9: does get rid of some of the extra stuff if
Speaker 9: you have a filter on your fridge, but certainly nothing
Speaker 9: you need like a eight thousand dollars filter.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, yeah, reverse osmosis. I mean that might be
Speaker 2: coming to the house some of your pipes. But yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, if you think the water tastes fine
Speaker 2: or something, you know, they have the ones in the
Speaker 2: tap or brit a picture or something like, and people
Speaker 2: do that. It's exactly and that's more than enough. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but does that also take minerals out that you need
Speaker 2: so a little bit.
Speaker 9: But a negligible amount, and there's still plenty in there
Speaker 9: that that will.
Speaker 2: Get through people that have a water softener. Is that, Tommy,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I don't think it does. Not
Speaker 2: like the salt adds. The salt goes into the water,
Speaker 2: you don't taste it correct, Yeah, excuse a filter? Okay again,
Speaker 2: Sanjay Shafercamani's here answer the questions about water. You think
Speaker 2: there'd be no questions about We have questions about water
Speaker 2: in this trend that's grown on TikTok as. My wife
Speaker 2: saw this the other day, pointed it out that people
Speaker 2: are drinking hot water. Now, what the hell is that
Speaker 2: doing for you? It's hot water, It's like drinking cold.
Speaker 2: It's water. Water's water, And is that pricey bottle of
Speaker 2: water that you get I don't know at the store,
Speaker 2: or you're like, I think I need this. You know
Speaker 2: that with the enhancements in it, you really don't. You
Speaker 2: just your your body needs water.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is you drink all those people,
Speaker 2: But well, I gotta I gotta do a cleanse. But
Speaker 2: isn't the job of those organs inside your body to
Speaker 2: do what it is you're trying to do? Like that,
Speaker 2: That's what the cleanse is. If your lover and your
Speaker 2: kidneys are doing the job.
Speaker 9: R If you want to sell anything today, just say
Speaker 9: it detoxifies and it will sell.
Speaker 2: And that's what you know.
Speaker 9: Water literally does that by helping your organs flush the
Speaker 9: stuff out. It's not like any specific water will do it.
Speaker 9: As long as you have water flowing through your organs
Speaker 9: to help the blood pump, you will detoxify yourself. So
Speaker 9: you know, it doesn't matter what you're putting in. Again,
Speaker 9: the stomach does a great job of neutral or actually
Speaker 9: acidifying everything that you know you're gonna get the same
Speaker 9: stuff that passes into your bowels and then gets absorbed.
Speaker 2: That that does also bring up one point.
Speaker 9: A lot of people are like oh, I shouldn't have
Speaker 9: sugar in my fluid, so you know, full sugar gatorade.
Speaker 9: But there's actually some use to having some sugar in
Speaker 9: your water. And this is not a time and so
Speaker 9: maybe a little bit of honey or a little bit
Speaker 9: of fruit juice, but maybe not to the degree that
Speaker 9: gatorade is. There's probably like twice as much sugar as
Speaker 9: you need in there. But that does help water go
Speaker 9: from your bowels or your intestines into your bloodstream. So
Speaker 9: it helps with the absorption of water to have a
Speaker 9: little bit of sugar, but not.
Speaker 2: Too much, okay, But there's these packets you put in.
Speaker 2: One is like for recovery. If you're a crushing at
Speaker 2: the night before like you do, you're you're the club.
Speaker 2: It's three four o'clock in the morning. I told you
Speaker 2: not to talk about that on air. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: the you know, it's gonna help you hydrate and halt
Speaker 2: your body hole much like garin. That's like a gator
Speaker 2: but just people won't drink wad unless it's flavored. Is
Speaker 2: that what's worse? The flavoring or the fact that you're drinking.
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like if that helps you get
Speaker 2: more water. That's a good thing, right in general.
Speaker 9: Yes, I'm I'm a big fan of flavored water just
Speaker 9: because I just don't enjoy flat water. So I like
Speaker 9: bubbles in my water, and I like, you know, stuff
Speaker 9: that I actually know what it is. So there's this
Speaker 9: big thing as far as like anything that says natural flavors.
Speaker 9: You can't really count on what that is, but I
Speaker 9: promise I'm not sponsored by them. But spin Drift has
Speaker 9: you know, bubble carbonated water that just said real few
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Speaker 9: know what you're getting. It's minimal calories. It's just a
Speaker 9: little bit of extra sugar to help with that absorption.
Speaker 9: So that's what I go with. But again to your point,
Speaker 9: anything that makes you drink more water, even if it
Speaker 9: has natural flavors, If you're drinking more water, that's a
Speaker 9: good thing in the long run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And most of those things are you know, you
Speaker 2: got to watch. So I think you know, there's certain
Speaker 2: a lot of pop have chemicals in it, and that's
Speaker 2: a concern if that's your primary source of hydration. What
Speaker 2: does that do for you outside the chemicals, I.
Speaker 9: Mean, from a hydration standpoint, you're going to be hydrating
Speaker 9: at least a little bit. Again, the caffeine a mild diuretic,
Speaker 9: so it's gonna make you peel a little bit more
Speaker 9: than water would, and you get the chemicals in there,
Speaker 9: and you know there's other stuff. But I love a
Speaker 9: coke zero at the same time, I'm just not making
Speaker 9: not my primary source of intake as I'm drinking as
Speaker 9: celsius at the same time while looking at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a water in a five way don't go together.
Speaker 2: You need to, I mean teach through a five way.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a cog with it. Sanjay Shaver Krimani,
Speaker 2: our air physician on the show This Smart Little Food
Speaker 2: Health Fitness, we talk all that. We're talking about water
Speaker 2: in the myth of water, and you just need to
Speaker 2: drink water. Tap water is fine. You know, if you
Speaker 2: want to spend money on pH enhanced that's your money.
Speaker 2: You do what you want with it, but you're not
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Speaker 9: It's cheap, may as well use a glass then at
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be. Well, there's some of the bougie
Speaker 2: mineral water. I mean perry A right, that was the
Speaker 2: first when we started. That was back in the seventies
Speaker 2: or eighties. I guess when they came out, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got this bougie French water. Now look at well
Speaker 2: you're drinking celsias. What's that?
Speaker 9: How many chemicals earned that? Only about eighty seven? Yeah,
Speaker 9: give or take. There's a lot of letters on it.
Speaker 2: I love it because you keep it real. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm as bad as anybody else about all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's fine. Everything you need to know about water.
Speaker 2: You do not need to drink hot water. You don't
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Speaker 2: in half and that's how the ounces you should have.
Speaker 2: You got easy math. Even I can do that, and
Speaker 2: I suck it math. Sanjay Shaved CARMANI is here jumps
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Speaker 2: Appreciate your brother, Thanks again, thank you. So we'll get
Speaker 2: news on the way in just minutes. Jack Render's here.
Speaker 2: Horrible story involving Grock, the AI client that's on x
Speaker 2: slash Twitter, where you can, you know, upload an image
Speaker 2: and go, hey, make this person have no clothes on,
Speaker 2: and they do this and we've got four i think
Speaker 2: four plus million images that came out in nine days,
Speaker 2: and almost two million of those were of women and children.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting and what can the law do to
Speaker 2: protect kids and everyone else from AI. We'll get into
Speaker 2: that next to the show Afternoons on the Home of
Speaker 2: the Red seven hundred WWT, Cincinnatis.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Scott Flues Show on seven hundred WLW. How about this
Speaker 2: happened a little while ago. Elon Musk's AI chatbot generated
Speaker 2: millions of sexualized images of real women and children and
Speaker 2: posted them publicly. And of course, at the same time
Speaker 2: in Lawrenceburg, we have this teen sex stortion case going
Speaker 2: on and it's disturbing, and so the next year is
Speaker 2: creating and disturbing this content is pretty easy now with AI.
Speaker 2: The question is, so what does the law do about it?
Speaker 2: Is enough? What about the First Amendment? Jack Ryners here
Speaker 2: a one a constitutional expert with Farouki here in Cincinnati. Jack,
Speaker 2: Welcome on this snowy Thursday morning. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well?
Speaker 5: Doing well?
Speaker 2: Okay, So the stories If you didn't hear this, so Grock,
Speaker 2: it's an AI chatbot that's on X and you can
Speaker 2: go in there if you're an ex user Twitter and
Speaker 2: generate these images. Right, So, people get on there and
Speaker 2: they generated and publicly posted about approximately two million sexualized
Speaker 2: images of women and children. In just nine days, there
Speaker 2: were more than four point four million AI generated images,
Speaker 2: and not all those were porn, but about half of
Speaker 2: them more so roughly two million. And all you do
Speaker 2: is you simply ask GROC to remove the clothing from
Speaker 2: photos of real people, including children, and the boch complied
Speaker 2: and posted all the stuff online. Not only is that
Speaker 2: a huge moral dilemma, but it's also a legal one
Speaker 2: at that. So we'll begin with the it's called the
Speaker 2: Take It Down Act, and that covered deep bit Congress pass.
Speaker 2: This covers deep fakes and people and intimate sexual acts.
Speaker 2: Does that cover this?
Speaker 5: I think it does? You know, I think really the
Speaker 5: question is is it a fish? It is it? Because
Speaker 5: my understanding to Take It Down Act is that it
Speaker 5: requires that it be literally taken down. I mean, you
Speaker 5: know that there can be a demand to take it down.
Speaker 5: I don't know that. I don't think that it provides
Speaker 5: for any really serious criminal penalty for it, which I
Speaker 5: think is the concern here. If I can do it,
Speaker 5: you know, if I'm one of those people that that's
Speaker 5: posting this stuff and the worst thing that happens to
Speaker 5: me is I get in order to take it down?
Speaker 5: All right, so what you know, move on to just
Speaker 5: want to do it again and get another one. So
Speaker 5: I think that the concern that people have, the rightful
Speaker 5: concern that people have, is whether or not there's sufficient
Speaker 5: keath in the law. And I think right now, no,
Speaker 5: I think that that needs to be revisited, and I
Speaker 5: think there has to be some consideration for you know,
Speaker 5: actually criminal counties.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, right, and typically the way the
Speaker 2: law works is if you do something like that, you
Speaker 2: get a C and D season desist and you have
Speaker 2: an opportunity to remedy it. And that's the way the
Speaker 2: law works. It's that's fairness. But the problem is is
Speaker 2: we know that that image has now been distributed, disseminated
Speaker 2: and duplicated countless times on the internet. Once it's out
Speaker 2: of the barn. I mean, it's really out of the barn.
Speaker 2: There's no one do feature on this one.
Speaker 5: No, there really isn't, you know. And if you say
Speaker 5: that can be that's fine. So the person who originally
Speaker 5: posted it, if you can find that person, that's an issue.
Speaker 5: But you know, if it's if it's posted, you really
Speaker 5: can't control who forwards it, who gets it, who who
Speaker 5: forged it again and again and again. So it would
Speaker 5: be good, I think, to have some method to try
Speaker 5: it innefit. But and again, you know, criminal law serves
Speaker 5: a couple of purposes. One is to punish the wrongdoer.
Speaker 5: Two is to deter other people from doing it. Right,
Speaker 5: So without a scient penalty, uh, you don't have much
Speaker 5: of turrence.
Speaker 2: Well. Also, I look at this Lawrenceburg High School middle
Speaker 2: school situation involving sex stortion cases, which is just a
Speaker 2: terrible story, and that involves minors being manipulated into producing
Speaker 2: their own images, because if they're extorted, they're saying, hey,
Speaker 2: send me a pay I'll send you a picture of me,
Speaker 2: which isn't a real person. They send something, and now
Speaker 2: they blackmail them as how this works. So if AI
Speaker 2: is now used to generate those images without the victim
Speaker 2: ever sending anything, does that fundamentally change the legal exposure
Speaker 2: for the perpetrator.
Speaker 5: Uh well, I think if if there's extortion involved, I
Speaker 5: think you probably existing laws can probably address that. Okay,
Speaker 5: not to say there's not a good reason to a
Speaker 5: man or an act and specific legislation, but if I
Speaker 5: am blackmailing you or story you, I think there is
Speaker 5: probably room under existing laws about victorian and blackmail that
Speaker 5: you could probably prosecute the person who is who is
Speaker 5: doing that. I do think if you noted, but I
Speaker 5: think it's worth emphasizing the cases of Lawrence Burg involved.
Speaker 5: Like you say, actual images, these were not AI generated
Speaker 5: or manipulated. These, But the problem here were younger people
Speaker 5: teenagers being pressured, pray enough pressure for manipulated into providing
Speaker 5: these these images. So, uh, you know, arguably it's worse
Speaker 5: because I think that if your images is AI uh
Speaker 5: generated you know, that's that's upsetting and that sort of thing,
Speaker 5: but you are not at least you don't probably blame
Speaker 5: yourself like the kids and.
Speaker 2: Wrensburg, you know what I mean, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So I think that's a that's another consideration, Okay, I
Speaker 5: would think that there'd be you know. One of the
Speaker 5: things is, though, however, is that in the sex storishing cases.
Speaker 5: I think that you get, as you do in a
Speaker 5: lot of sexually oriented crimes, can you get the victim
Speaker 5: to come forward and you know, testify and participate because
Speaker 5: of the embarrassment, and you know, that's the shame and
Speaker 5: that's that's unfortunate and sadly.
Speaker 2: The problem is that these kids are taking their own lives.
Speaker 2: It's a you know, long term, permanent solution to a
Speaker 2: temporary problems. The old adage goes, and you just can't
Speaker 2: reason with them, and they feel alone and isolated and victimized,
Speaker 2: and and they want to take their lives. It's just
Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible thing. Uh But I look at this
Speaker 2: and now there's a movement underway here. Jack. By the way,
Speaker 2: Jack Grinder on the show, he's a First Amendment attorney
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, and so the problem was with Grock,
Speaker 2: which is an al chat bot on x So they
Speaker 2: released this and said, hey, you upload a photo and
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want. You could have you know,
Speaker 2: you standing on the moon?
Speaker 4: What it?
Speaker 2: It's okay? Great? But now well literally when the first
Speaker 2: nine days of it, people uploaded images and said take
Speaker 2: the clothes off these people, and some of them were
Speaker 2: women and children. In nine days, four point four million
Speaker 2: AI generated images did just that, and half of those
Speaker 2: were pornographic or in this violation. And there's no law
Speaker 2: dealing with this. That's the issue. So moving forward with law,
Speaker 2: if you misappropriate someone's likeness, name, images and likeness not privacy,
Speaker 2: law is a do we need a new hook for
Speaker 2: a new statue? So how would you how would the
Speaker 2: legislature go about doing this?
Speaker 5: I think that it could take some of the existing
Speaker 5: trame work. There are Ohio has a statute that deals
Speaker 5: with misappropriate to the name, image and likeness. It's more
Speaker 5: of it, but it's a civil remedy. It gives you
Speaker 5: a right to proceed in a law to an under
Speaker 5: trademark law. You know there's that you would have a
Speaker 5: right because if your image is misused. So there's lots
Speaker 5: of uh, remedies. I guess on the civil side, I
Speaker 5: would think you could take that and rework that language
Speaker 5: into a criminal into some sort of criminal statue.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And I don't think that would be a First Amendment problem.
Speaker 5: I think you have to carve out exceptions for political
Speaker 5: commentary or parody. Uh, you know, and that gets a
Speaker 5: little murky, but I think that you'd have to do
Speaker 5: that because you know, it's tricky. But I think that uh,
Speaker 5: if you're substituting somebody's likeness on a naked body or whatever,
Speaker 5: that you could you could somehow work into the statue
Speaker 5: to sexualized use of the photo so that legitimate paroity.
Speaker 5: If somebody takes Trump's face and puts it on what ever,
Speaker 5: probably and that you know, in a way that's legitimate
Speaker 5: political correntary. I think that that probably ought to be
Speaker 5: carved out some somehow or another. I think there's probably a
Speaker 5: way to do it. I mean, I think I need
Speaker 5: a little bit of time.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm not asking for a court rolling here, Senator.
Speaker 5: I'm good, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know you're you're talking about this and what
Speaker 2: just came into my mind this is also outside your
Speaker 2: scope here. But you're saying, hey, you know, basically you
Speaker 2: own your your your image, your name, image and likeness.
Speaker 2: Could this argument, if this is codified in the law,
Speaker 2: could could that undermine the whole high school and I
Speaker 2: all think we're talking about here saying well, you, according
Speaker 2: to this, you own your enn image of the likeness
Speaker 2: and you can do what you want with it.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but that's from the perspective of the person
Speaker 5: who owns the name image of Like, we're not talking
Speaker 5: here about somebody if manipulating for their own namas. We're
Speaker 5: talking about a third party, sure, manipulating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're saying you own it, not someone else
Speaker 2: can't do what they want with it. So it's like
Speaker 2: if I own it, then I can monetize it. Oh sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this could be it's gonna be sticky for them for
Speaker 2: the I mean, that's a separate argument. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get off on the weeds here. So the First
Speaker 2: Amendment protects a lot of uncomfortable speech. So what's the
Speaker 2: competition line between protected expression and what rock.
Speaker 5: Produced political commentary or true parity. I mean, it's distasteful
Speaker 5: as the thing with the Obama on the eighth bodies, right,
Speaker 5: I don't think that should be a crime. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: because I think that in those sort of you know,
Speaker 5: cruel way was probably some sort of political commentary. Uh
Speaker 5: So I think there has to be some carve out there.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that you know, if you if you
Speaker 5: put I don't know. You know, if you just having fun,
Speaker 5: you take some high school athletes space and you want
Speaker 5: to show a powerful, you know, wrestler. This guy is
Speaker 5: clopping on top of the Hulk's body. Again, I don't
Speaker 5: think that's criminal. Uh you know, I think there has
Speaker 5: to be some sort of the sexual dacent I think
Speaker 5: is probably the issue that you know what I'm wondering about,
Speaker 5: is is it? And again I do not understand or
Speaker 5: know anything about how you do coding COMPUTERIVI why did
Speaker 5: why somebody provided this mechanism on rock or you know,
Speaker 5: like the say, manipulating those so I could be standing
Speaker 5: on the moon or whatever. I'm wondering why the option
Speaker 5: even existed for removing clothing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you do that? Make them naked? I
Speaker 2: can't believe that they didn't think of that when they
Speaker 2: were writing the code you know what I mean, you'd
Speaker 2: have to go, hey, I can use this to you know,
Speaker 2: like the old X ray glasses thing in the back
Speaker 2: of you know, boys life and tray glasses on. What
Speaker 2: are you going to do with those? Of course they
Speaker 2: didn't work. This does.
Speaker 5: Order you have to work for?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wonder if those X ray
Speaker 2: glasses I actually work now They probably don't. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I guess there's another element here too, is that that
Speaker 2: GROC put this publicly on X. Is does xpair legal
Speaker 2: liability under the law or is you know, we always
Speaker 2: talk about section two thirty. It seems like that that
Speaker 2: would provide cover for this whole thing.
Speaker 5: Not necessarily be so the idea of second two thirty
Speaker 5: is that in an internet service provider, it is not
Speaker 5: liable for third party content. Okay, however, there is a
Speaker 5: card out for uh intellectual property uh court, so uh
Speaker 5: there may potential gotcha?
Speaker 2: Could could someone sue Grock or X under existing common law?
Speaker 2: Mean there's intentional inflection, emotional distress would come top of
Speaker 2: mind probate to see stuff like that. What would they
Speaker 2: need to prove?
Speaker 5: Well? I think again, I think the the uh intencial
Speaker 5: infliction probably is covered by the the section two thirty
Speaker 5: immunity because that's not an intellectual property claim that would
Speaker 5: be that would be based on the third party content.
Speaker 5: But again I think I think you could make a
Speaker 5: claim potentially for it's called a right of publicity, the
Speaker 5: violation of the right of publicity. In other words, I've
Speaker 5: got the right to choose how money images us. I
Speaker 5: also have the right to receive monetary compensation for the
Speaker 5: use of it. There's debate the language of section two thirty.
Speaker 5: I'm getting in the wheeze a little bit here, especially
Speaker 5: the language of section two thirty says that there's a
Speaker 5: carve out from the immunity for intellectual property towards UH.
Speaker 5: And there's some debate eight about whether right of publicity
Speaker 5: is technically an intellectual property UH court a different courts
Speaker 5: to go on different ways. Yeah, but so so that's
Speaker 5: that's why I said there could be rather than there is.
Speaker 5: I mean, there definitely could be, but it would depend
Speaker 5: on you know what court you're in.
Speaker 2: Jack Reiner. Unlike what's happening in Lawrenceburg with that store
Speaker 2: that that's real in this case, when a miner's images
Speaker 2: used to generate a sexualized image on AI with Grock.
Speaker 2: Does that trigger existing federal child pornography statute or is
Speaker 2: there a loophole because no actual child was photographed the act,
Speaker 2: it's the head, but it's imaginary.
Speaker 5: The recollection is that the Supreme Court dealt with that issue,
Speaker 5: you know, the the uh fake child born and I think,
Speaker 5: if my memory serves, if they found that that was
Speaker 5: not violation of child pornography. Wow, now that was however
Speaker 5: completely uh uh. The entire image was generated by a
Speaker 5: here if you're using a real faith and a fake body,
Speaker 5: that would be an interesting question. And I think that
Speaker 5: might be that seems like a different set of back.
Speaker 2: Okay, really really interesting. Where do you think this goes
Speaker 2: in the next I don't know if there's a big
Speaker 2: impetus to get this change, but my god, you know,
Speaker 2: you're talking about millions and millions of images of people,
Speaker 2: and you know, you could be on social or or
Speaker 2: you could be on and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 2: six months later, said hey did you see this? It's
Speaker 2: a naked picture of you, and especially if you're a
Speaker 2: woman or child, really really disturbined. Not only that, but
Speaker 2: I'm you know, someone says it to me, Hey, here's
Speaker 2: a heads up. You know that now you're teetering on
Speaker 2: child pornography here. This is going to be a really
Speaker 2: difficult thing for the courts to navigate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I don't know if Congress will get
Speaker 5: around to it. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Well I got to show up, Jack, for that to
Speaker 2: actually happen. So the answer, there's no, But.
Speaker 5: I think different state legislation. I would look for efforts
Speaker 5: in state to deal with it before I suspect Congress
Speaker 5: will get her ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then, of course, you know, you have offshore,
Speaker 2: you have different states, you have jurisdiction, and that's the
Speaker 2: whole mess entirely. There's really interesting and scary at the
Speaker 2: same time. Jack Reiner, first Amendment expert at Farruki here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Always appreciate the time, brother, Thanks again.
Speaker 5: All right, man, there you go.
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Speaker 2: over and over because I'm dumb. It just here's the
Speaker 2: thing with it, Michelle, I love you, but I do
Speaker 2: not want to be in a book club for the
Speaker 2: simple reason is this. It feels like work to me,
Speaker 2: Like if you really re want a book, read a book.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, it's like school, Like I know how
Speaker 2: I was in school years and years and years ago,
Speaker 2: and that's where we met. In school, and you know
Speaker 2: kind of student. I was a terrible student, and I
Speaker 2: would I'd cram the night before. I feel like on
Speaker 2: the way to the book club meeting that I'd be
Speaker 2: looking at my ID at the stop of the store
Speaker 2: or download of cliffs notes, so I knew what I
Speaker 2: was talking about with the book because I don't really
Speaker 2: want to read this stupid book. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: and then there's this pressure, and I'm wondering if I'm
Speaker 2: going to have the nightmares that I can't get to
Speaker 2: book club and people are preventing me from getting there
Speaker 2: and taking the exam. It's like an episode of Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: it is, but it's not got a study for the
Speaker 2: book club. Yeah, I don't need pressure. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of pressure. Yeah, I you know.
Speaker 10: I was invited to participate in the book club.
Speaker 2: I thought about it for about three point five O.
Speaker 2: Thank god because you asked me about them, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: here we go. This is how you plant that seed.
Speaker 2: You know what you're doing. There's a seed planet here,
Speaker 2: here we go. You're not going to join the book
Speaker 2: club with me. I know better than that. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: We read all the time.
Speaker 10: I mean we're always reading about I'm reading about real
Speaker 10: estate and things that are going on in my little world.
Speaker 10: You're reading about all the things, and we're constantly reading.
Speaker 10: But we don't have a lot of time for just yeah,
Speaker 10: I don't know, reading reading just for the fun of it. Eventually,
Speaker 10: AI is going to do this with stupid. We don't
Speaker 10: need to read anymore.
Speaker 2: Kids. Kids, if you're listening and you're going to school,
Speaker 2: you know what di plumbers are stupid. They don't mean anything.
Speaker 2: This is a great topic. I want to get it
Speaker 2: because we had a conversation with some friend of ours
Speaker 2: the other night about this, and it has to do
Speaker 2: with fires. And we just had a story from Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Fire Department. Nearly two dozen residential fires. We had what's
Speaker 2: six or seven fatals there, and it's a usually high,
Speaker 2: non presented number of this early and it obviously has
Speaker 2: to do with the cold weather and I imagine too
Speaker 2: people trying to stay warm. There's a huge increase in
Speaker 2: the number of fires and fatal fires for this, so
Speaker 2: the numbers are elevated compared to recent years. So what
Speaker 2: do you need to know about that? Relative to insurance
Speaker 2: and documentation and all that.
Speaker 10: Stuff, there's certainly a lot to think about. Insurance is
Speaker 10: the big thing, But if let's start with the basics,
Speaker 10: you need to have smoke detectors, working smoke detectors. A
Speaker 10: couple of those fatal fires they did not have working
Speaker 10: smoke detectors. And I find when I'm going through people's homes.
Speaker 10: A lot of people who love to cook will take
Speaker 10: these smoke detectors or unhook them because they're a pain
Speaker 10: in the butt because if you cook a lot, and
Speaker 10: you cook and you create you know, some smoke as
Speaker 10: it were, they go off all the time and they're
Speaker 10: quite sensitive. We have that problem in our house and
Speaker 10: scarce the daylights out of the dog. But smoke detectors.
Speaker 10: You have to have working smoke detectors. And there's a
Speaker 10: nice thing you can add on carbon monoxide detectors as well.
Speaker 2: Recommend cheap too. That is the big thing you can
Speaker 2: do is car Well, let me rewind at a second
Speaker 2: for and I'll put my you know, remodeler hat on here.
Speaker 2: Typically people will not think about their especially if you
Speaker 2: a house where it's wired in or writing their daisy chain,
Speaker 2: meaning they all work together, one goes off, they all
Speaker 2: go off. That's been code for a while now, and
Speaker 2: people who have homes in the last number of years
Speaker 2: have those and they generally don't check them and test
Speaker 2: them or anything. No one does that. No one's going
Speaker 2: to get up. And if you have higher ceiling old homes,
Speaker 2: the time change happen in a wee. No one's doing that.
Speaker 2: The newer ones actually have a default battery of the
Speaker 2: last about ten years, which is nice. But if you
Speaker 2: have the old ones, no one checks them and they're
Speaker 2: only good for you know, actually maybe ten years, and
Speaker 2: no one's if your house is twenty thirty years old,
Speaker 2: you're probably not checking that, and and things like cooking
Speaker 2: will trigger them. You're like this, stupid, Well, you need
Speaker 2: a new smoke detector. And the new ones are a
Speaker 2: little bit more sensitive or less sensitive, I guess I
Speaker 2: should say, And you'd be doing yourself a favor there,
Speaker 2: But no one's doing this, and I think that's the problem.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, So smoke detectors number one. I mean, you want
Speaker 10: to save lives inside of your home, you have to
Speaker 10: have them. The other thing is, when our kids were little,
Speaker 10: we always talk to them about having an escape route
Speaker 10: and a meeting place. If you have never talked to
Speaker 10: your kids about that, you know, it's a conversation. You
Speaker 10: don't want to scare them, but at the same time,
Speaker 10: it's knowledge that they need to have in their little brains. Also,
Speaker 10: when you're buying a home, if you think you're going
Speaker 10: to use a lower level room without an egress, meaning
Speaker 10: a way to get out during a fire. You know,
Speaker 10: that's that's a danger. That's a dangerous situation. And you're
Speaker 10: not supposed to have a bedroom. There's reason why I
Speaker 10: can't say there's a bedroom in the basement, even though
Speaker 10: somebody puts a bed in a room in a basement.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 10: So you need to have a lower level egress in
Speaker 10: order to claim a lower level bedroom as an actual bedroom.
Speaker 10: Need to be smart about The next step is documentation.
Speaker 10: And we were talking about our friends had a fire
Speaker 10: several years ago, and they were talking about just the
Speaker 10: nightmare that is remembering what was in your house.
Speaker 2: Before, you know, after the fire. Yeah, they had a
Speaker 2: fire in their garage and you know, paper's caught on fire,
Speaker 2: and then you have cars in there. They caught on
Speaker 2: fire and next thing that was fully involved and literally
Speaker 2: everything was gone. And then they're like, well, we got
Speaker 2: to go back from memory to try and document what
Speaker 2: we had for the insurance company said even today. That
Speaker 2: was years ago. So they're out shopping they see something going,
Speaker 2: oh man, yeah we had one of those and I
Speaker 2: forgot I have that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you it's wild too. I had no idea this existed.
Speaker 2: So the insurance companies have this the software's AI and
Speaker 2: they'll take in like an image of something that's melted
Speaker 2: and you look at it, go, I have no idea
Speaker 2: what this was, trying to think where it was in
Speaker 2: the house or whatever. They'll take an image of it,
Speaker 2: and I don't what the reliability rate is, but it'll say, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a like she I think your friend had
Speaker 2: a water pick in the bathroom and could believe you forgot.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't think of those things. And they
Speaker 2: took a page. She said, I have no idea what
Speaker 2: this hunk of plastic is and it said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was a water pick. That's really really cool. But
Speaker 2: it's not going to catch everything. No it's not.
Speaker 10: And so the thought is, and again you never want
Speaker 10: or a fire to happen, but if something does happen,
Speaker 10: you have to be prepared, so you want it. The
Speaker 10: simple room, simple, simple thing is to document what you
Speaker 10: have in your house, especially if you have jewelry. And again,
Speaker 10: in your insurance policy you should be stating some of
Speaker 10: these things. But if you're going to everybody's got a
Speaker 10: phone except for me today, walk around your house room
Speaker 10: by room and take a video on your phone. It's
Speaker 10: definitely any open drawers and closets and take pictures, narrate
Speaker 10: like brand names of items that you own. Maybe you
Speaker 10: want to put some estimated value something like that and
Speaker 10: then store it, email a copy of it to yourself,
Speaker 10: to an external hard drive. Just anything that you can
Speaker 10: so that you have the documentation of what's in your home.
Speaker 10: And don't forget the garage, don't forget the lower level,
Speaker 10: the basement where you have you know, piled up all
Speaker 10: kinds of stuff. So you want to think about that
Speaker 10: because when it comes time to make a claim, you
Speaker 10: want to know exactly what you're having to claim. The
Speaker 10: other thing is too and I don't you know this
Speaker 10: is something that doing a little research about this. I'm
Speaker 10: not an insurance agent, so that's not my thing, but
Speaker 10: you definitely want to talk to your insurance agent about
Speaker 10: all of these things, like the difference between replacement cost
Speaker 10: and actual cash value.
Speaker 2: O what is that you know that? I'm like, I
Speaker 2: always get confused, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: The home? You know?
Speaker 10: Basically, if you say you're the value of your home.
Speaker 10: If I come in as your real estate agents, I say, okay,
Speaker 10: your home is worth five ndred thousand dollars. That is
Speaker 10: not the same as what it would cost to rebuild
Speaker 10: your home. So replacement cost pays what it costs today
Speaker 10: to replace an item, no deduction, no depreciation. You have
Speaker 10: higher premiums for a replacement cost for better protection. Got
Speaker 10: it okay, So if you want replacement costs, it's going
Speaker 10: to cost you a little bit more on your insurance policy.
Speaker 10: Then the actual cash value pays the replacement cost minus depreciation.
Speaker 10: So if you're looking at things like your roof, if
Speaker 10: your roof is twenty years old, you're not going to
Speaker 10: get the same as a replacement new roof. You're not
Speaker 10: going to get the full whatever it is fifteen twenty
Speaker 10: thousand dollars. So your actual cash value, your premiums may
Speaker 10: be lower, but you're not going to get everything to
Speaker 10: rebuild what you have.
Speaker 2: So that's a tough decision. If your homeowners have cost
Speaker 2: everything's going up, and maybe you're new a you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: God for allow, hord, Well, I can't afford the replacement cost.
Speaker 2: I'll do ACV, but God forbid, if something happens, you're
Speaker 2: going to be out of pocket a lot.
Speaker 10: It's a lower premium much smaller payout. So if you
Speaker 10: have the ACB and you're like, oh, my insurance rate
Speaker 10: it's really really good, Well, you're probably looking at actual
Speaker 10: cash value rather than replacement costs. So that's something you
Speaker 10: absolutely need to think about. It's part of that self decision,
Speaker 10: the big picture. When you're buying a home. How do
Speaker 10: you ensure yourself and how do you make sure that
Speaker 10: that investment, no matter what happens, if there's a tragedy
Speaker 10: of some kind, you are prepared.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The other thing is you know real quick. I will
Speaker 2: say this, So if thank you and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: I can only afford ACV, I get it. But you
Speaker 2: should be more diligent about making sure that the smoke
Speaker 2: detectors are up to date. There's carbon monoxide detectors, that
Speaker 2: you know that the sump pump is working, and you
Speaker 2: put a battery back up in because you're going to
Speaker 2: be out a lot of money if something like that happens.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, here's something I never even thought of either. If
Speaker 10: you have a major upgrade, I'm always talking about, make
Speaker 10: sure that you update your kitchens, your bathrooms. If you
Speaker 10: add you're gonna do have an EV charger in the garage.
Speaker 10: Whatever you're gonna do, make sure that your insurance carrier
Speaker 10: knows because if you didn't disclose that you have a
Speaker 10: new fifty thousand dollars kitchen, okay, they're just gonna go
Speaker 10: on the value of what you know, an old kitchen,
Speaker 10: They're not going to give you that upgrade. So when
Speaker 10: you have major upgrades, make sure that you're telling and
Speaker 10: talking to your insurance agent. A lot of people and
Speaker 10: you know, our brother in law used to be my
Speaker 10: brother in law. Your brother was an insurance agent for
Speaker 10: a long time, and you know we talked to him
Speaker 10: all the time, but you don't usually talk to your
Speaker 10: insurance agent. If you talk to your insurance agent once
Speaker 10: a year, that's probably good enough. But at the same time,
Speaker 10: you should be if you haven't talked to your insurance
Speaker 10: agent for five years or more, maybe you need to
Speaker 10: make a phone call. Or if you have no idea
Speaker 10: who your insurance agent is, again, you could be setting
Speaker 10: yourself up because if you have to make a claim
Speaker 10: and you have no not reviewed your policy for a
Speaker 10: long time, chances are you are not going to have
Speaker 10: the coverage that you need to really replace what you
Speaker 10: have in your home. So that's really important.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha? Bottom line here, what should you do at
Speaker 2: least once a year.
Speaker 10: At least once a year, you want to go through
Speaker 10: your deck page, the page that says you know how
Speaker 10: much the value is on your home? Are you doing
Speaker 10: replacement cost? What do you have in your home, what
Speaker 10: kind of protections are in your home? How many updates
Speaker 10: you've done? So talk to your real estate Yeah, talk
Speaker 10: to your real estate agent. No, talk to your insurance
Speaker 10: agent at least once a year and review your policy.
Speaker 2: So you know what you've got.
Speaker 10: And it is important because if you have a and
Speaker 10: we talked about subpump failure, know what you have, know
Speaker 10: what the add ons are, because you know, you may
Speaker 10: get all of these documents and I know we're probably
Speaker 10: running against the clock here, but you may be getting
Speaker 10: like piles and piles of documents in the mail. Your
Speaker 10: insurance company is making changes to your policy. And if
Speaker 10: you just say, oh, it's just another it's another it's
Speaker 10: junk mail, it's just another bs whatever, pay attention to
Speaker 10: that because they could be changing the way that they're
Speaker 10: doing business, therefore affecting your bottom line.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, So make sure you do that. And also the
Speaker 2: documentation thing. You know, get your everyone's got a camera
Speaker 2: on their phone, no excuses. You go in your video
Speaker 2: and then you're probably going to take that and if
Speaker 2: you can get out on the flash drive and store
Speaker 2: it somewhere out of your house or somewhere where if
Speaker 2: God forbid there is a fire or something like that,
Speaker 2: you have access to it at work. Maybe you know
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to get into your email
Speaker 2: put it in a cloud. Be the other thing too,
Speaker 2: but you know, and you know we haven't done it yet,
Speaker 2: so or just as guilty. At some point I'm going
Speaker 2: to do that. So maybe next big rainy day I'll
Speaker 2: walk through and document everything. But the other thing too
Speaker 2: is you probably got updated a lot because you are
Speaker 2: always getting stuff and stuff's going out, So it'd probably
Speaker 2: save a lot of time, a lot of headache and
Speaker 2: heartache later on. God forbid, something always has happened, especially
Speaker 2: with the rash of fires we've had this year or
Speaker 2: so far. My wife, Michelle Sloanan sales Holmes dot Com
Speaker 2: open House show that is via the iHeartRadio app on
Speaker 2: the podcasts as well as on YouTube as well. She's
Speaker 2: a run main flip Remax time all right, love you,
Speaker 2: go go. Why don't you do this? If you really
Speaker 2: want to get in the book club, why don't you
Speaker 2: start reading a book and see how they about the
Speaker 2: whole book club thing. They tell me what I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to read. Come on, come on, man, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: glad we're united Fineland. I was sweating it for a second.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's gonna get me sign up for
Speaker 2: something else. I don't want to do. My wife, I
Speaker 2: love dearly, but try to avoid because of things like this.
Speaker 2: I'll see you later. You have a great day. Go
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