WEBVTT - 2-26-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.480 Do you want to be in a Manican idiot? 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:08.000 It's a Scott Flown show on seven hundred WLW. Our 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.200 time is still compressed these days. Everybody and everything wants 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:13.920 so much of us at all times. I don't care 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.600 what kind of job you have, if you're a high 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.759 flying CEO C suite type of person, Hell, you could 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.040 be a guy dude driving to travel a gravel truck 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.880 right and somewhere in between, high or lower, whatever it 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.000 might be, whatever your station in life is, we all 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.840 know that we are Our time has demanded so much 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.360 and it just stretched so thinly, and how do we 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.400 back off of that? I think that's a really valid 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.800 question to ask, because it's too much. I'm doing way too 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.000 many things I have, and I think a lot of 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.000 us are wired to please, and so you don't want 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.199 to tell people no, hey, can you do this? Can 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.680 you do this? Can you? And you just add more 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.640 and more and more on your plate and nothing goes away. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.960 How do you stop the madness? Julia Vincent Gambudo is here. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.720 Please don't subscribe. He is a master of saying no 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.240 with something that most people are bad at. Welcome to 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:57.880 the show. Are you? 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.480 Thanks so much? Thank for having me. I'm good. I 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.720 guessed that fatly. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.560 Yeah, why are you saying yes to me? That would 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:06.960 be the ultimate. It's like, hey, you want to get 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.080 on and talk about you know, unsubscribed. No, I'm good, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.880 I've got too much, got too much going on, kind 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.840 of self defeating. You pick the important stuff, and I 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.080 think that's true though. We all have to. Man, I 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.600 guess I need to do this in order to fulfill 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.240 some sort of goal that I have, which would be 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.000 to sell books. I appreciate that, and I appreciate taking time. 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.520 I've come on, But so, yeah, why say, where do 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.160 you draw a line of things? How do you how 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.639 do you determine what's in and what's out? In some days? 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.119 I think for most of us, it depends on how 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.760 we feel at that exact moment in time. Do you 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.319 catch me the right time? I might say yes, you 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.959 catch me the wrong time, I'm probably going to say no. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.039 Yeah, And you know what, either way is okay, the 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.639 kind of first the first and important part of saying 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.840 no right is understanding that it's okay. We've all been 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:57.160 really really conditioned, and souls are really sexy. Story, you know, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.280 in America, in the last twenty years that we've got 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.400 to say yes right, say you know, Carpa diam say 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.360 yes to the dress right like you know, yes is 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.359 the answer to everything we've always wanted. And I think 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.000 we live in a different time now right where your 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:19.280 work constantly bombarded left, right and center with messages, with information, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:24.440 with things to process, not only just commitments and requests, 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:29.079 but just you know, life is overwhelming, and so learning 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.000 how to be savvy about saying. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.840 No really really really is important. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.840 But the first step really is to understand that you 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:42.080 can say it right without without without sort of losing 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.160 losing at all, which is I think the fear that 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:45.560 we have. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.840 Well and the message bombarding it doesn't begin and end 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.200 with it. But it's the mobile device. It's a text, 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.600 it's something on social media, it's a direct message, it's 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.080 an email, it's a call. It's we are bombarded NonStop 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.920 with asks that large. Is the I think the tipping 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.359 point for this conversation isn't it is? If we got 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.000 rid of our mobile device and just didn't respond, we'd 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.160 be in much better headspace. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.680 Yeah, I think it's really important, you know. I mean, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.440 these times, this technology, it calls for us to be 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.919 you know, really really specific and intentional about how we 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.080 use these devices. I mean, you know, the companies that 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.160 sell them, they want us to use it in a 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.920 certain way. And we've got to sort of wake up 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.760 to the fact that that way is not serving us well. Right, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.720 being connected twenty four hours a day, being always on, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.000 being accessible, having no boundaries, right, these things are not 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:47.240 serving us. They's not helping life be better, rich or deeper, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.720 more satisfying. And so, you know, from. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:51.640 A very very. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.080 Surface level logistically, right, we've got to make decisions about 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.240 how we use these devices. My laptop is for this, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.600 my soulness for that. I'm gonna set some rules and 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.040 parameters for myself. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:05.720 Uh. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.680 You know, those are the things that have been eroded, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.280 and they've been eroded on professe, right, so that we 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:16.000 just feel constantly connected and on. Uh and uh and 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.159 and it's really kind of time in the in a 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.640 large scale or in a large view here, uh, to 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.920 just get some some clearer and clearer boundaries. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.800 Yeah, well, let's talk about taking back our time. How 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.760 do we set those boundaries? I It's easier said than done. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.920 And I think in particular, and and I'm generalizing here, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.960 of course maybe stereotyping, but it seems like women have 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.080 much more difficulty men and saying no. They want to 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.920 try to be everything to everybody. They don't want to 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:46.039 disappoint if kids and husbands, spouses, or certainly their girlfriends 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.719 and people at work, and so they try to do 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.840 everything all the time. And there's plenty of guys that 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.200 do that. Don't get me wrong, A lot of us 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.280 do that. But generally you look at this and go, wow, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.839 that's that that hits women on the head. And I 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.720 think that is why women feel so compromise these days. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.039 But all right, so how do I begin by saying no? 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.040 How do you train someone to say no? Who's the 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.080 programmed to say yes? 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:05.880 Yeah? 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.479 I mean, you know, it is a question of our time. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.840 I think that that all starts. It all starts on 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.800 the surface, right, I think, and I like to look 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.240 at all of this through the through the lens of 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.640 a sort of three places that we can look at 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:26.200 and target in our lives. One being the surface, right, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.520 all the screens, everything that we're touching all day long, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:30.760 our digital life. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:31.440 Uh. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.920 Second being our social networks, both on and off, right, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.279 sort of learning to speak to them and defy some 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.400 of the narratives that we have and that we share 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.920 that somehow, you know, succept is being busy constantly and 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.400 that you know, we we we sort of parent these 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.600 beliefs around to one another all day long, right, and 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.640 kind of learning to say, you know what, I don't 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.080 believe that, I don't think that's true. I think I 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.320 have to sort of create a different space for myself 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.400 and for my family. And then that sort of third 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.480 level which I talk about in my book really is 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.919 sort of these underlying subscriptions. What does that mean? It 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.279 just sort of means like the beliefs that we hold 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.159 really really pearly, you know, about our identity and who 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.200 we are. I you know, certainly before the pandemic, which 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.520 was a really big turning point for me. I know 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.560 we're all sick of talking about it, but you know this, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.840 it was sort of the genesis of my work. Was 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.360 my life was just constant, right, It was just on 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.320 the go all the time, always everywhere. And I can't 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.200 speak to women specifically, but I can speak from my perspective, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.160 which is that you know, I was feeling like, oh 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.080 my god, I have been trained to be this upwardly mobile, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:53.919 successful type a person. And I never stopped back to 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.479 question any of it. So, you know, yes, absolutely, I 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.279 think there are things we can do on the surface, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.760 but so much of this is about digging even deeper 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.080 to understand, you know, why are why do we feel 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.359 the need to people please, Why do we feel the 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.440 need to always link success with being busy? Why do 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:17.120 we feel the need constantly to be accessible to everyone 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.520 or to not find the words to politely say, you 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.520 know what, my time, attention, money, cash, all those things 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.520 are super important to me and have to take precedence 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.600 right now. And I don't necessarily mean it, you know, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.640 one to one with everyone, but I do mean when 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.640 you look at the whole of life, right how can 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.480 I be how can I be a little bit more 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.960 selfish in how I spend my time and where I've 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.040 put my focus, so anyway to be practical about it. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.360 One of the things that I you know, suggest people 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.160 take a look at is not even necessarily you know, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.080 do this or do that, but take a step back 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.880 and ask the question, you know, how can I slow 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.880 this down? How can I put more structure in? And 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.720 how can I make this more human? And I think 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.680 those are the three things that have happened in the 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.880 last ten and twenty years in our country because of 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.440 all of this tech, because of how wired we are, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.800 we have sped it all up. We have taken the 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.560 parameters and the boundaries away, and we've made it less human. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.920 And so, you know, from a just practical perspective, if 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.320 we can stop in any given moment that's overwhelming to 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.600 us and ask those questions, I think people you know, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.280 can find the answers that are specific to their lives 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.920 and helpful to them by by sort of taking that break. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:41.720 Yeah. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.400 By the way, it's Julia Vincent Gambudo on the show 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.480 this morning. Please unsubscribe. Thanks taking back our time, attention 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.960 and purpose and world designed to bury us and bs, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.080 which is largely true. It just we piled on pilot 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.280 on pilod on. Although I just had this conversation with 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.719 a buddy of mine and he's a guy gen X 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:05.720 are like me and raised by parents and there and 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.360 also grandparents too, where work was everything for man, Right, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.120 It's like, okay, you go when you work, you work 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.880 your work, your work, you work all day, you work hard, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.280 you work smart, you make your money and then hopefully 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.000 at the end you start to cash out and enjoy 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.400 the fruits of your labor. I think that models change 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.719 because we have seen and a lot of people are 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.360 as older certainly would look at it and go, oh 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.600 my god, nobody wants to work anymore. And I know 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.600 it's partly true, and it looks and appears that way, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.280 but you know, look at it this way. When you 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.000 were working when you were younger, Hey can we go 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.679 and we're gonna want a family vacation. How much time 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.720 did you spend working while on vacation because things were 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.320 expected you at work or weekends or nights, or you 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.640 may be distracted by different projects and things you had 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.200 to get done. And so you know, kids absorbed that 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.160 like a sponge and they say, all right, well, you know, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.760 we live a nice life. I guess relatively speaking, we 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.680 always want more as a kid. But at the same time, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.200 you know, I saw what work has done to my parents. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.560 I saw the two thousand and eight housing collapse, what 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.040 that did to a lot of people. We saw what 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.560 happened during the pandemic and people losing their jobs, like 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.240 and I think you're people look at that and said, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.760 you know, what, tomorrow is not given. I'm an enjoy 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:08.840 life in the moment, at the moment right now. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:09.080 Now. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.920 Do they want nice things without putting that kind of 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.960 effort in Absolutely, But you can choose to have you 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.880 can choose to live that life where you're not consumed 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.120 with work and not consumed with burning the mid not 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.840 all and doing those things at previous generations, But you're 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.040 probably not going to have as much at the end, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.920 So that is a choice that you will make. I 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.920 respect that out of today said that they literally, hey, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.080 I'm going on vacation now. I'm not waiting until I'm 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.719 in my sixties to travel. I think that's an awesome thing. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.240 But you're doing at the expense of future comfort, and 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.800 that's a trade off you have to accept. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.400 Yeah, I mean I agree with you. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.600 I think well, first, I think our generation I'm a sennial. 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.200 I guess they call us these folks who were born, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.960 you know, late seventies, early eighties, and we're sort of 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.080 sandwiched in the middle. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.360 We grew up. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.920 Without email and without tech, and then graduated college and 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.720 suddenly all you know, so we went out into the 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:09.040 professional world really on equipped, really uh to to understand 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.920 what it's all meant and what it what it asks 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.680 of us. But to your point, you know, I think 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.440 this generation, the younger generation, is seeing these things, but 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.640 they're also seeing that the mass doesn't add up, right 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.760 and without without stoking a political fire, I mean, the 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.280 truth is that you know, the numbers just do not 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.280 support working at that kind of level. You know that 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.160 that past generations did, right, We're we're seeing that we're 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.320 getting less for our money. We're seeing that prices for 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.440 even homes, right, which is like this major symbol of 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.400 our financial and material success, right, that is a different 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.640 proportion of our income. It is a much much larger 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.520 buy in than it has ever been before. We're seeing 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.679 that even the cost of vacations right, proportional to what 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.480 people make per year, has gone up. So all those things, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.000 I mean, those are small examples, but there are plenty 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.240 in a list as long of sort of where the 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.520 math isn't masthing right. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:09.640 Now. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.520 I hate the fact by the way that older people 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.920 in particular and maybe but you know, you can work 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.640 hard to or three or four jobs, but that's not 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.280 the same as it was when we were young, when 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.520 you were when I was young, certainly, and for you 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.960 and if you're older, if you know, in your sixties, seventies, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.240 eighties or whatever, it's a whole different dynamic. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:24.480 Now. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.280 You could work, you know, four different full time jobs 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.840 and still have a hard time servicing your debt. There's inflation. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.800 Inflation has got up and wages have not kept up. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.680 And we've seen the gap between GDP and wages just 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.280 continue to grow further and further apart. It's a real deal. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.920 Don't be dismissive of younger people say, Man, I'm working, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.480 you know, I just I can't get ahead. Well, you 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.280 need to work harder. Well, you know, if you're up 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.320 there in age, yeah, maybe you worked hard, but your 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.520 money went a lot fur than today. And we're not 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.080 even talking about getting buried in college debt and stuff 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.920 like that. And so I think that work is becoming 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.400 less important to individual But I would say that work 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.920 is the the business of the United States, the business 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.480 of America's business, and that means people have to work. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.559 And so if you're not willing to do that at 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:09.920 some point, are you going to do it less? And 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.439 God bless you if you that's your choice, but you 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.120 stand a high likelihood that AI is going to come 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.200 in and fill that void. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.360 Well, I think now it is it is going to 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.480 not only fill the void, it's going to blow the 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.320 void to miery is here. And I think where we are, uh, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:32.199 you know, not necessarily completely emotionally prepared for what's about 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.480 to happen, for the losses that we're going to see. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.240 Not to be doomsday about it, because I think there's 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.040 there is a scenario where this can be helpful to humanity. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.800 This can be helpful to UH, to the economy, and 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.640 also to our to our day to day. But we've 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:54.440 got to have really, really much larger conversations and at 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:55.800 the highest levels. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.160 Of power about how we use. 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.880 AI in order to benefit the masses. Right and right 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.280 now it's in the hands of a handful of corporations 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.120 that are only going to use it for their specific 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.040 gain and goal, and so it's it's really, you know, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.720 now is the time to be having a conversation, to 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.520 be pushing back and to. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.520 Be speaking to power to say, hey, you. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.120 Know, while this is going to change humanity, how is 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.120 everyone going to benefit? 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:25.800 Right? 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.680 And I don't think everyone needs to necessarily. I'm not 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.400 talking about you know, outright socialism. I'm talking about having 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:38.960 conversations about how we fuel capitalism with things like AI. Right, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.080 this is world changing, This is life altering for all 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.880 of humanity. And I think we've got to wake up 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.280 to how significant a change is coming and start to 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.560 really have serious conversations about how that gets spread out, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.840 right among among three hundred million people here in the 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.520 US and obviously more across the world. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.120 But how do you bring that benefit? 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.960 And I'm not an AI specialist, but the question to 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.040 be asked is how do you bring that benefit to 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.320 as many people as possible? 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.320 Probably going to make things worse where it's like, oh, yeah, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.760 you know, look at the ads for everything. That's technologys 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:14.920 just going to make your life so much either, No, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.880 it's not just going to make it more complex. I'll 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.720 have more different things to do and more passwords to 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.240 remember and crap like that. And I get why younger 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.480 people are checking out. And maybe we've peaked at that too, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.520 because how much of this do you think we had 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.200 a glimpse of life when COVID went on. I mean, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.000 we look back at COVID. It was a scary time. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.920 For sure, we didn't know where this thing was headed. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.280 But for a lot of people listening to the early 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.120 days anyway, it was like, wait a minute, hold on 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.560 a second, I can work from home. I can work remotely. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.360 I don't have that now if you lost your job 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.760 obviously because of that's a different story or a riff. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.280 But for most people it's like, Okay, I can work 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.120 from home. What does that look like? I'm in my 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.320 pajamas and it's like, you know what, nothing that we're 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.480 not going to go out and socialize because everything's closed. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.160 It's amazing how in just a few years we've gotten 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.320 way far away from that we had to take of 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.760 like slowing life down. But clearly those Americans we don't 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.000 want that we've real returned to office is the thing. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.280 We've ramped it all up, and I think we exceeded 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.800 where we were in twenty twenty before COVID really hit. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.880 I mean, so many of the numbers are bearing out 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.400 that we are back with a vention. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.280 Yeah, no doubt, you. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.120 Know, And I think part of that. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.600 You know, there's a lot of reasons you could point 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.680 to for why we went back to normal, but one 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.600 of the things I think that's really important is that 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:29.880 we were committed to it. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:30.200 Right. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.440 We we had we had a thirty year mortgage, right, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.800 not a five or ten year or fifteen, Right, we 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.920 had a we had jobs that all of it. I'm 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.400 not ever saying that, you know, people don't have to 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.120 go and work and make a living, but I do 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.120 think that we went back very easily, and we went 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.200 back sort of because the story was sold to us 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.400 that you know, normal is normal is good, Normal. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.200 Is what we need in our lives. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.280 And we've got to get back to the over consumption 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:01.560 and we've got to get back. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.640 To the go, go go and the run gun run, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:04.840 you know. 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.000 And I think it just behooves all of us to 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.399 kind of just remember that in those moments when the 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.960 chips were down and things looked really dark, you know 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.360 what was important to us? Right? 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.960 What did we run to? Who are the people we 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.200 turned to? What are the things that we did? 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.080 I mean, there's no way to recreate that moment, and 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.120 I wouldn't want to, but there was a great value 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.560 in it, right, There was great value in sort of 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.080 understanding like, oh wow, my life actually boiled down to. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.480 These ten fifteen people, like these. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.480 Few things that I love to do, these people that 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.760 I love, this recipe that I like to make. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:51.080 Whatever it is right and tearying that forward can be 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.160 a difficult process, but I think you know, the first 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.760 step that sort of recognizing it, even writing it down, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.040 being really aware of kind of you know, what was 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.159 it in that moment that I ran to that was 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.520 valuable to me and meaningful for me? And how can 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.840 I bring that forward in my life? But I think 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.600 you're totally right at COVID with this weird exercise and 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.720 anti socialism. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.919 Right guys, and we went we really don't want this 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.040 or that's not expected of us anymore. It's it is fascinating. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.040 Please don't subscribe. Thanks. It's Julio Vincent Cambudo on the 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.680 Scotts slun Show seven hundred WW taking back your time 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.840 and attention and purpose in this world, in this crazy, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.919 crazy world. Thanks for coming on the show. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.560 All the best, thanks for having me you well. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.960 Thanks man. News in just minutes here including the forecast 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.480 as well. The stuff should be out of here and 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.440 well next few minutes. Not already for you, but man, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.760 the wall of snow was no joke this morning, was it? 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.200 Full details and the aftermath and minutes here on seven 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:50.399 hundred WLWT. It's a Scott Sloan show on seven hundred 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:55.880 WLW welcome to it. You know, if anything I try 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.639 to be I don't know, consistent, Consistency's apartment and we 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.920 lose it. We live in a world where we're very inconsistent. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.439 People are very inconsistent with what they believe, and they 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.960 ascribe to one of you, and if anything challenges that, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.080 they hated or just simply ignored and go give you 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.520 the yeah butt. It's like, look, if you're gonna you're 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.639 gonna think what way, Here's what I stand for. And 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.280 regardless of who else thinks that way. We had a 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.080 political party, religion, whatever it might be, like, yeah, I 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:23.840 like to call out bs. I'm just tired of being 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.080 smoke blowing up. May you know what? So typically when 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.120 we have weather events like we just experienced right now, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.160 which is a wall of snow, I would call out 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.480 the TV climate terrorists for trying to scare us and 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.480 work us up into a froth and lather about the 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.000 fact that we've got some snow flags flying around. And 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.080 in that regard, you know, it's not like this is 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:48.920 Atlanta or Houston or Phoenix. You get snow there, that's 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.359 a crisis, right, We're not prepared to deal with that. Sure, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.240 we saw what happened to wear an old miss right 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.080 where they got the storm came in. The weren't prepared there. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.800 They would add plows. Here in Cincinnati, we get snow. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.400 It's not like this is Michigan. We get snow. Man, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.720 we're kind of used to. We got a little more 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.639 snow this year than we have in years past. CBG. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.600 I think thirty six inches of snow. Normally they get 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.680 fifteen or eighteen. It's like, okay, almost double. It's that's 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.439 a bit of snow. But we deal. We deal. And 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.520 so when they come on and you know, they're driving 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.480 around in their cars and showing you the live view 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.920 even though it's not snowing out, it's like what you're 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.479 driving around showing me a live view of nothing. It's 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.719 a road and you're driving like sixty five miles an hour, 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.159 So it's not a problem. Or standing up by the 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:33.480 salt dome with a ruler. So I said, I always turned, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.360 you know, pull the curtain back and turn the camera 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.760 around on us because we are guilty here at this 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.400 radio station, seven hundred W is long always made fun 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:46.520 of climate terrorism. That for the first time I can remember, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:52.639 we are now turning that accusation, that sticky finger towards us. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.399 We're looking in the mirror going we are guilty of it. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.880 Here at the big one here is seven hundred WW 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:01.919 matt Reese. 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.200 Big snowflakes falling, no breeze, looks like a holiday movie set. 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.919 You almost welcome snowfalls like this. They're friendly. A crunch 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:16.119 underfoot here on my deck, but melts on the driveway. 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.239 This is the way we live in Cincinnati. Yesterday it 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.320 was a spring forward kind of a day with warmer 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.280 weather today, back to winter, which comes to an end 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.879 three weeks from tomorrow. Here on the west side, the 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.800 ruler is out and it measures two inches of snow 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.600 from Green Township. Matt Reeese News Radio seven hundred wlubs. 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:37.960 Too much the friendly snow for it's like a friendly snow. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.600 It is pretty out there. I'll give him that. You 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.359 look outside, I look it melted on the roads, but 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.200 stuck on the trees. It's like cleans things up a 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.160 little bit, sout that gray salty nastiness pretty for a minute, 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.200 all starts melting and then we're back to that again. 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:53.840 But you know, I attack the climbate terists on our 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.080 local news because you know, they're out there. They're driving 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.560 around and trying to work hip in a fraud. We're 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:00.560 going to go to Kroger, see if milk and bread, 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:01.920 and that's why we do that. You know, if people 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.239 watch that and get a stream of that and then 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.280 they lose their mind thinking, wow, this is a real crisis. 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.680 One it's not, but I would live. I'll give the 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.679 folks on TV, our friends and TV a lot of 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.119 credit because at least they will get in their company 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.720 owned vehicle and drive to where the perceived problem is. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.800 I'll actually drive to the salt dome with a ruler. 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.520 Our guy is Reeses out on his own deck. I 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:32.600 mean the courage that he has to face the inclement weather, 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:36.439 this last dash of severe weather we had this morning, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.280 to go out on the deck of his home in 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.320 Green Township. To actually walk on the deck. That takes 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:47.480 real journalistic courage. To hold the microphone down and hear 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.600 the sounds of a grown man walking on his deck. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:57.400 It's unprecedented journalism, is what That is unprecedented. And he's 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.359 never going to talk to me again, ultimately, that is 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:05.280 the goldless thing. Never never to talk to me. There 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.280 he is, there's Matt braving the elements. Boy, I hope 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.000 to god you put a coat on? Did you leave? 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.280 Did you like run a string from the door to 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.240 the deck so you could find your way back during 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.800 the blizzard? Did you did you like bread crumbs down? 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.160 Did you have what about you should have brought out 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.360 with you, matt on your back deck a Saint Bernard, 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.080 because that way if they hurt, I mean, God forbid. 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:25.879 We just had that tragedy with the avalanche. But the 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.200 snow happens, you snow could have fallen off his roof 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:32.399 and I mean absolutely just flowed down a from her 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.280 from high and probably you know, went down his collar. 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.359 And that's just uncomfortable. You get that snow down your collar, 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.120 it's like, oh, it's like an ice cream headache. It's 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.119 it's a terrible thing. Maybe running the house, Get have 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:47.720 some tea in advil for that. The braveness and they 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.640 say journalism, they say boots on the ground, journalism. Herd 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.080 enting journalist said, nope, not here, not not with our 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:59.919 good friend Matthew Reese. The latest on the Savannah Guthrie tragedy. Uh, 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.440 because there's another turn in this thing. It's certainly it's 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.360 just not good if you look at it. Obviously, we'll 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:05.960 get that in right after a quick time out slowly 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:10.800 back on seven hundred w W Slooney seven hundred w 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:16.040 welw who moment last night with Jack Hughes, the Star, 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:21.560 the game winner, the man himself in New Jersey, NHL 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.320 opens the second one I second half of the season. 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.879 I should say about twenty five games left. Play started 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.040 last night after the heroes welcome it's a State of 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.639 the Union standing ovation or he and the Sabers. My 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.400 Sabers are in town. There Jersey and th Thompson, also 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.040 in the US men's gold winning team, were there and 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:38.960 the crowd gave them both the standing ovation. Really really 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.280 cool moment in the return of the NHL. Thanks for 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.040 our friends at Dorothy Lane Market of course the original 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.240 location in Dayton, but also the new one in Mason, 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.960 I guess the newer one in Mason anyway, and drop 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.920 some food off for us. And you know, I'm I'm 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.399 absolutely crazy for Italian food, and I will say there 0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:00.639 lasagna Is was absolutely incredibly adressing Lasagna off and they 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.399 did it right too. They had the bechamel in their 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.480 little white sauce along with the Marinara and the little 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.560 sausage in there in the right number of layers is 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.080 absolutely perfect. 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There gourmet takeaway stuff is absolutely fantastic 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.199 and in most cases is better than you could make 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.560 it home. And I know that goes saleon typically he 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:44.199 picks up up at a store, grocery store and hey, 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.879 it's okay, this is it's better than you can make 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.760 it home. Trusting me. Thanks again our friends at Dorothy 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.720 Lane Market. So we have movement here in the United States. 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:58.640 After what happened to well in the UK, we now 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.879 have movement here with the Epstein case, Larry Summers resigning 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.160 from his role at Harvard because of his ties there. 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.200 Hillary and Bill Clinton's depositions are being held in New York. 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.280 In connection with that, the former Secretary of State Hillary 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.560 Clinton gives her interview today Bill Clinton. President Clinton is 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.840 set to sit in tomorrow and according to the House 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.240 Deposition rules, both interviews will be videotaped and transcribed and 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.119 hopefully that will be released as opposed to what we 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:26.920 didn't get so far. And you talk to the folks 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.040 who you know the Epstein Justice, folks like Peach Chin 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.720 who had on the show number of times, probably have 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.879 them on in the near future. That you've got literally 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:39.560 six million pages, only three have been released, and all 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.080 of those heavily redacted. And even if you remember Congress, 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.640 the idea is, well, if you're Congress, you can see 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.119 the stuff, sure you can, but the redacted stuff you 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.400 can't see. So there's a lot of names in there. 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.119 Now I get trying to protect individuals from being falsely 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.520 accused and being docked because they're in here. I mean, 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.800 I bring that life touch thing up. That star has 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.840 gone from Kentucky to a high now where parents are 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.760 going well, a minute. I don't know if I want 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.280 this outfit taking pictures of my kid because they're ties 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.480 to Epstein and even though it's twice removed from any 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.960 money that may him involved with him, we tend to 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:12.919 lose our minds when it comes to issues like is 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.359 that rightly? 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:13.480 So? 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:14.560 Rightly? 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:14.720 So? 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.080 You just hope something is going to come in this 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.720 and it's not just Hillary and Billy. I mean, you 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:20.960 go to be fair, and I know a lot of 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.840 Republicans would love to see nothing more than Hillary and 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.160 Bill Clinton get jammed up. But it then means there's 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:32.199 more victims and that's horrible. But you know, politics aside, 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.720 and again back to the consistency thing. It should be 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.720 anyone involved with this, do we deserve to know names? 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.040 And how far do you go to protect them? Interesting question. 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.480 It's along the lines of my guest at eleven o 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.760 seven today, Jack Ryner, a long time first amendm attorney 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.600 here in Cincinnati. My buddy Jack will come on to 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.359 talk about the serious threat of deep fake porn. I 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.520 don't know if you've heard this story or not, and 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.600 it made a lot of headlines I think over Christmas, 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.480 and maybe didn't hear too much about it. But what 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.320 happened with the Grock chat box. So Groc is elon 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.040 Muck's AI client and they have it on X and 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.720 you can go on Twitter X and put an image 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.159 in there and go, okay, make this person, you know, 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.639 standing on top of Careu tower and it well generate 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.359 it for you. Well literally, when the first nine days 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:20.160 of that going, that feature going active on X, people 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.680 were uploading images and generated and posted publicly about two 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.320 million sexualized images of women and children in just nine days. 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.719 We're talking four and a half million AI generated images overall. 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.879 Almost half of those involved nudity in this case women 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.920 and children and some men for that matter. And all 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.760 you do is you put the image and say, hey, Groc, 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.520 take off their clothing and these are pick pictures of 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.840 real people, I mean real children. And the bot did 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.960 that and posted it publicly. Horrible. You mean to tell 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.800 me that, like the Groc people didn't see that coming. 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.200 That's a huge issue. But you know, we're back to that. 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:58.760 It's like, Okay, if you're gonna do that kind of stuff, 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.840 there should be some accountability. Are the laws say? And 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.800 this is not happening in a vacuum, by the way, 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.680 this one off story because their ties to us. What's 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.600 happening in Lawrenceburg. I'm sure you hear that story. In 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.520 middle and high school, there where kids who are wrapped 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.640 up in sextortion cases. And so I'm killing themselves because 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.520 you know, they sent someone a picture of themselves naked 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.520 and the person or the individual they sent it to 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.920 turned out not to be who they thought it was. 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.400 And then they turn around and blackmail the kids, saying, 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:26.920 we're going to put this all over the place and 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.920 ruin your life unless you send us a gift card 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.800 or money. And these kids wind up doing that or 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.720 killing themselves. The case may be a horrible thing, and 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.320 I think that that's from the same cloth. Those two 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.400 stories kind of work together and it's just awful. But 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.400 the times in which we live, I think AIS we 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.960 know we're worried about it taking our jobs. We're worrying 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.280 about a lot of things with AI. This is another 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.200 one to worry about. As much as it's going to 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.520 make our lives easier, there's a threat there and this 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:51.840 is a big one. We'll get to that eleven oh 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:57.080 seventh day on the show on seven hundred WLW. For 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.920 almost a month now, the search for Nancy Nancy Guthrie's 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.560 and it's been dragging on for a while, thousands of leads, 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.120 and you just have a sense this isn't going anywhere. 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.040 And now it's it's pretty clear. You know, someone brought 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.440 up yesterday. I think on the show, you hear this 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.080 is Look, well, why are they just doing a million 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:17.040 dollars now? Is the reward goes? I think that's basically 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.000 because if you start with too much money, you're going 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.800 to get way much more noise. So many more people 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:25.520 are out there to go and simply fabricated reason or 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.320 lead in order to get the money that they wouldn't 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.280 for the fifty grand, but it's less likely, and I 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.520 think when they go, hey, we're doing a million dollars 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.560 a million dollar reward now fifty one hundred and hour 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.320 a million, like now, it's about trying to get the 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.520 people around the individual or individuals responsible for her abduction 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.640 and kidnapping and presumably murder, to get them to turn 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.040 on the people they know, that's what this is. At 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.360 fifty grand, they're like, I don't know, maybe he gets 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.840 the ransom or whatever's going on, but for a million dollars, 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.080 you know, you may have a family member that rolls 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.440 on you. You know, Ted Kazinski is where he is 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.120 now because of a family member rolling on for I 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:05.720 don't think for a roar and maybe did get a reward, 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.960 I don't remember. But you know, the investigators now think 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.120 that the profile here of this individual is not a 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.160 typical kidnapping, ransom suspect and it's more of a personal 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.160 or revenge driven type of thing. But some of the 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.840 characteristics there, and there may be a connection to a 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.240 family member. Now the family has been vindicated at this point, 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.640 but there could be a tie to Savannah's father died 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.800 in nineteen eighty eight. But that's where they're going now. 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.280 But the one million dollars is going to get a 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.360 ton more leads. But it's about trying to get the 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.360 individuals around that person or persons who abducted her to 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.920 roll on them. That's I think that's what that is 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.920 about right there. But now we're almost whatt a month 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.080 into this thing. It's it's clearly and I think you know, 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.280 based on Savannah Guthrie's last video, she knows that public 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.320 interurce is waning on this and you know, eventually the 0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.080 law enforcements. We have to focus on some other things 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.600 because crime never sleeps. There's gonna be more cases to 0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.200 solve out there. And you just wonder if this turns 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.160 into a cold case. And I don't even know what 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.200 that period is actually how long before they consider a 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.880 case cold. I don't think they're anywhere near that at 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.520 this point. Similar it's all high profile, but at eighty 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.520 four needing medication. You know, one of the working out 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.840 my working theory is this individual. You know, this was 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.280 in a you know, like adjacent Stay Them thriller where 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.400 they're kidnapping you know, they're kidnapping a loved one and 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.360 he's got to go and find them, and you know, 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.280 that's that's movies. This is more like you know, I 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.640 think the thing that got me was when the individual 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.160 showed up to her door, took leaves and tried to 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.200 match the camera with that. That's not like a well 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.280 throught out type of you know, you think you'd scope 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.760 the property, go there's a ring camera there, and then 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.800 come back and you know, either disabled knock it off 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.480 or spray paint on something like that. But you know, 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.320 trying to cover it up with leaves is like you 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.800 didn't think of that, so I guess that's my experts 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.680 think this is kind of amateurish that way, and why 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.400 maybe but her personal connection opposed to doing it for money, 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.840 because the ransom thing just dried up right away. We 0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.800 thought initially it's like okay, holder for rams, and that 0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:02.480 just it went away and makes you think that, okay, there, 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:07.200 that was never ever in play, and so why did 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.680 they capture It has to be almost a personal connection, right, 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.320 And just the way that they took her away, I 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.920 guess is and not knowing that she needed medicine. I 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.600 think maybe it's like, okay, I kidnapped her and then 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.720 she needs medicine which you're unaware of, and she dies 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.360 because she has never medicine. And now it's like, oh, okay, 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.200 now what do we do or what do I do? 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.880 If it's an individual and God knows where the bodies 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.360 At this point, I mean, you want to hope against 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.880 all odds that she's still alive, but that's that's been 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.080 less likely for a long time now. It's such a 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.040 sad thing too, because it's fading away now as we speak. 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.920 But you know, the idea of due of people are going, well, 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.719 why why didn't you just give a million to begin with, well, 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:51.720 because you get too many lunatics coming out to try 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.160 and get the million dollars. We saw that with a 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.000 fifty grand, although on one hundred grand, a million grand, 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.720 a million, it's a million grand. It's a new number. 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.880 So yeah, in that regard, I think it's just trying 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.280 to get people to flip on the individual who did this, 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.600 because can you actually do without telling anyone? That's really 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.680 the hard part, you know. We thought cameras are everywhere 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.960 and they may have more video evidence here but that 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.600 they're leading on to. But at the same time, it's 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.960 like it's awfully tough to get away with things with 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.680 all the cameras around, but at the same time, to 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:29.040 do something like this and not tell anyone as almost 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:36.240 an impossibility. Sadly unfortunately, seven hundred ww iHeart Media, Solute, 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.239 Cincinnati's own Procter and Gamble. If you've got someone there 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.319 you'd like for us to recognize on the air, text 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.480 as their name to five one, eight eight one and 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.840 be listening. We'll get a news update in here. The 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.400 snow appears to be over. According to Matt Reeves, it's 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.160 a pretty snow it's very theatrical as what this is. 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.200 Hopefully we'll play that audio with him walking on his 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.920 decking en. It's very brave anyway, very gent very gentle. 0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.600 Snow I believe too. I was just try your boy 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.120 Reese by the way, minutes ago here for being what 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.160 having the break? It's being so brave as to walk 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.960 out on his own deck and file this report about 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.960 crashing my lead man, Oh, you're gonna play it? 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:10.239 Yes? 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.040 Okay, good, you gotta he If you just tuned in, 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.840 you got to hear this. I make fun of climate 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.800 terrists all the time on TV when they try to 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.719 scare about the weather. Our own Matt Reeves is exceeded. 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.160 He's like, literally broke through that wall right now. I mean, 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:23.680 how brave is it to go on your own deck 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.040 and file a report on the radio. It's incredible. We'll 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.120 do that and when we return on Hi, Rep. Dave 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.160 Thomas from up in North should Ohio and property taxes 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.240 all together? Yay, okay, well, how are we gonna fund stuff? 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:36.160 Wait? 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.560 Do you hear what they think the sales tax would 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.319 be if we got rid of property tax? Next on 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.960 the Scott Slone Show, Home of the reds seven hundred 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.399 ww sincent Do you. 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.759 Want to be an American? 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.400 Scott Flum show back on seven hundred w welw. Ohio 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:55.400 activists want to eliminate your property build tax entirely. Sound good? Okay, 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:56.880 well wait do they hear what it could do to 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.960 the sales tax? Right? So, rising property taxes are pricing 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.560 a lot homeowners out of their homes. We've seen increases 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.719 mile of twenty eight percent, but all the way up 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.600 to one hundred and thirty percent across southwest Ohio here, 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.239 and the Committee to Abolished Property Taxes is gathering signatures 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.719 or a constitutional amendment that they want to put on 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.400 the November ballots. So what's the good, the bad, and 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.560 the ugly of this? Ohio Representative David Thomas out of Jefferson, 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.520 I said, Jefferson, not Jeffersonville. That's in the now up 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.480 here Ashtra Bulah Warren, Northeast Ohio. David, welcome to the show. 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:26.880 How are you? 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:27.799 Oh? 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.120 Thank you so much for having me one. 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.960 I appreciate it. Governor de Wine warned about abolishing taxes 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.960 and we'd see the tax rate jump up to twenty 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.919 percent from the five point seventy five now and other 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.520 people say they're full of it. So, uh, do you 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.560 agree with the math? Is the math math on this one? 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.400 And even if it's close to accurate, can you justify 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:46.080 that trade off? 0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.440 Yeah, that's a great question. I think this shows just 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.120 how upset and frustrated people are with the property tax system. 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.120 But the math math if you do essentially a one 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.720 for one, so right now, roughly twenty four billion dollars 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:04.359 is how much property taxes collect in every year, and 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.040 all of that money stays the local level that funds 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.920 your local services. And if you were to eliminate that 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.879 twenty four billion, you would have to and I would 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.760 assume most people would still want their local police departments 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.400 to fire, their road services, all those different types of things, 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.120 and so you'd have to pull that revenue from somewhere else. Now, 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.920 many folks who are very strong behind abolishing you know, say, hey, 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.360 I'm perfectly fine to have a much much higher sales 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.680 tax if that means I no longer have it on 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.920 the property tax side, right, And so's that's kind of 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.880 one of the trade offs that people have to think about. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:41.920 But twenty percent, you know, that is essentially yes, that 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.920 that's the number that we would likely have to get 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.440 to because areas like yours down in southwest Ohio, areas 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.120 like mine in northeast Ohio, we have other states around us, 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.440 and so you're going to have people who leave the 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.520 state to buy things. You're going to have less activity 0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.480 because things are going to be much more expensive. So 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.640 you have to the sales tax even higher than what 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.399 you would directly need to replace that about twenty four 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:06.080 billion dollars. 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.960 That's a question. So let's say, just for giggles here, 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.399 that they're successful. I get on the ballot, people okay, great, 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.120 I don't have to pay any more proper dexts my 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.840 home and are great, I don't have to pay this anymore. 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.320 They came out and said, look, it's not our responsibility 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.439 to figure out how to replace that twenty plus billion 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.160 dollars in annual revenue that falls on the General Assembly. 0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.919 People like yourself, David Thomas. What's your answer? Where would 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.520 even begin to look for that kind of money? I mean, 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.600 you're saying the twenty percent tax wouldn't work, but what 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:33.640 other options are there? 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.920 Yeah, they are correct, and that's kind of the I 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.719 think the committee quite often, I know the leadership personally 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:43.920 they've allowed us to do a lot of the reform 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.360 bills that we've done this past year because people now 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.279 realize just holp set folks are a property taxes, but 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.520 essentially it is our responsibility. There's actually a constitutional amendment 0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.600 two years ago in North Dakota that very similar abolish everything. 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.799 It failed because it put in essentially the replacement revenue, 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.440 and I think people then saw in the ballot, WHOA, 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.319 this will happen if the abolished and so they said no. 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:12.520 But there's no way, no physical way that Ohio would 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.600 go up to a twenty percent sales tax. It'd be impossible. Right, 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.600 So then you have to look at essentially cutting costs. 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.000 You've got to decrease how much money you're actually going 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.600 to need for those services. 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.640 Yeah, you know, I tend to lean more libertarian all 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.279 this stuff, but in the way I look at it 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.880 is looks it's the least bad tax in the world. 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.320 In this group in Midlely a way, we don't like 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.080 property taxes, but we don't really want to cut services 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.799 that they fund. Despite going you know, government's bloated and 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:40.760 fat and dozed and all that stuff, which I get, 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.840 But when it comes to services, that you use are available, 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.359 then we don't want to do that. So it's contradictory 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.680 on our part for sure. And I think property taxes 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.480 just are generally less Distortionay. You know you can, as 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.120 you mentioned being in northeast Ohio and us here in 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.000 southwest Ohio. Well, you know, if you don't like the 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.600 prices because the sales tax is twenty percent, you can 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.600 choose to do business in India and Kentucky. Well, the 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.239 same is true with property tax. A lot of people 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.880 I work with live in Kentucky for that reason. So 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.000 you can move to places where you're less heavily taxed 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.279 with what the local sales tax and income taxes. I mean, 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.040 real estate generally has to stay put. If you're a 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.799 business owner, you can choose where you live. But I 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.239 guess you know that this is the Hey, I don't 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:21.880 want to pay taxes, but I want someone else to 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.360 pay for it. Well, who's that going to be? 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.560 Yeah, And that's a very interesting point you s brought 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.200 up about the business side. So businesses currently pay about 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.840 a third to a half, depending on your local area 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.799 and what kind of makes up the community, they pay 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.600 a third to a half of the property tax bill. 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.240 So one of the I guess the issues of concerns 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.600 that I have is if you abolish and get rid 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.759 of all property taxation, you're also been getting rid of 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:51.160 property taxes on your walmarts and on your manufacturing and 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:54.799 your your data centers. Bring up that fun topic, and 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.200 you know then what happens when you have to move 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.600 it over the income and sales tax are actually shifting 0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.920 that over to the individual as opposed to have in 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.560 the business pay. So there's a lot of kind of 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.719 philosophical questions about what could happen and what's a better 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.080 way to do this, And I think it just brings 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.799 up the whole idea that we can't We've not done 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.480 any type of major changes on a property tax system 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.399 in fifty years. Nineteen seventy six was the last time. 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.760 So it just really shows, you know, we've been overdue, 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.600 and last year we've passed five strong bills plus was 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.240 in the budget to really kind of correct what happened. 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.160 And in my mind, we've essentially now said that the 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.879 frustration that voters have, which is their tax bill goes up, 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:41.719 they never had to say on it, and it's all 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.680 because of the value spiking local government's getting unvoted wmfalls 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.600 that they just didn't really need. We've essentially stopped that. 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.000 Moving forward, that will not continue. So voters now have 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.440 a lot more of that control with what levees are 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.480 on the ballot, what do they actually want to pay 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.759 for and support. But you know what percentage of levees 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:04.840 pass a last year in November? Okay, eighty seven percent. 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.040 So despite there being hundreds of thousand centatures being collected 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.439 a lot of people angry at property taxes, voters still 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.799 approved eighty seven percent of the levees across Ohio. And 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.640 there's a disconnect there. But there's also a thing of 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.800 sense that if you're asked, hey, do you want to 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.279 support your local fire department with this levee for a 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.120 fire truck, typically you're going to say yes, yeah. But 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.200 if you're forced to pay over five hundred or one 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.560 thousand dollars more year tax bill and you had no 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.120 say over that, that's when you get really upset, and 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.520 rightfully so, because that shouldn't happen. So we're correcting that 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:38.200 moving forward. 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.480 He is Ohio represent of David Thomas, and he is 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.640 the foremost expert in the General Assembly when it comes 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.319 to this property tax you should. I'm having them on 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.840 because they're trying to get this on the ball. A 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.360 group called Abolish Ohio Property Taxes gathering signatures for a 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:57.640 constitutional amendment in November that would eliminate our property taxes. 0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.520 The problem is they're like, well, we don't know how 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.880 to replace it. That's y'all's job at the In Columbus, 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.400 we just don't want any more. Property taxes could be 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.920 as high as twenty percent or more the sales tax 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.440 we pay in Ohio, which would be devastating to border 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.240 cities like Cincinnati, for example. We already cut the local 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.360 government fund I think back in twenty thirteen, and that 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.960 FOS forced local communities to engage these levies in the 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.960 first place. So if you push to abolish property taxes 0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.960 now the state, I mean, the finish what they started, right, 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.120 Aren't you just shifting the burden rather reducing it. 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.439 That's a great question. I get asked a lot your 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.919 state tax dollars pre twenty thirteen per twenty ten used 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.280 to send a ton. I think we had eight income 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.200 tax brackets used to send a ton down to Columbus. 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.040 And then it was Columbus deciding Okay, who's the winners, 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:46.160 who's the losers, and. 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:47.719 How much do local communities get? 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.319 And the philosophy from twenty ten to now has been 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.239 you should be sending a whole lot less to Columbus 0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.880 and then you have more money to decide do I 0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.680 want to support that fire department or the library or whatever, 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.640 look levee, and it's it's kind of local communities than 0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.520 picking what type of services they want versus that money 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.800 going on to Columbus and then hoping to come back. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.600 Because you're absolutely right, we have cut the little government 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.760 fund that's the money that Columbus sends the local government 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.360 in twenty ten. Now every year since then we've actually 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.120 been increased in that percentage and now it's it's not 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.440 that to where it wasn't twenty ten, but it's pretty close. However, 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:28.200 what is absolutely different than is our income tax rate. 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.520 You know, we're now the lowest flat income tax in 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.640 the nation at two point seventy five percent. Then we're 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.200 going to keep decreasing that. So there's there's trade ops 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.680 with that. But in my mind, less of Columbus more 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.040 in your pocket to the side you might be paying 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.520 more because you're being asked, and you want to support 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.359 those local services. I'd rather that money stay there than 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:48.840 they come down to the Statehouse. 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.320 Yeah, I mean this is the cost of that local 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.000 money not coming back as well. We have to add 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.480 more and more levees and now we're seeing property tax 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.839 values go up and like and people are now I 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.600 get it, but we we still have to on government. 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.800 Property tax is fun like sixty five percent of local 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:10.319 government revenue. So school fire police ems? What for you 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:14.560 in northeast Ohio? What do you tell your constitions if 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.239 this happens and those things will have to reduce? I mean, 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.120 which one do you pick? Can you do without schools, 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.200 fire police or emas well? 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.640 And that's a great point too, so you know, essentially 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.920 less money from Columbus to lower governments. Your comment of 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.440 they've essentially moved over the levees to help make the 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.240 difference up, but that didn't actually have to be the case. 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.920 And my main kind of comments to my constituents, especially 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.719 my local governments, have been we have to change that 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:44.200 mindset that's always the property owner that we go to. Counties, 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.560 for example, have a sales tax option already. We actually 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.760 see Montgomery County funding their social services, not through property 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:56.520 taxes but through sales tax or Washington County actually decreasing 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.160 their township property taxes and making it up in a 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.160 sales tax. That's one option at the county level. And 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.640 obviously cities and villages they should have the lowest property 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.040 taxes in the state because they have the income tax 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.320 locally and that can vary as well. And schools actually 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.680 have an income tax option also, So there are other 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.720 ways to fund our local governments. We've given different options 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.720 besides just the property needs. 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:21.440 Yeah, and you know that's. 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.440 One thing now, but then abolish happens, I would envision 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:30.920 I kind of tell folks whatever other option that community has, city, village, township, county, 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:36.640 they'll likely just increase and move up tremendously that. 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:36.879 That tax revenue. 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.920 He's Ohio represent David Thomas up in the Ashtabulah Warren area, 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.840 and he is the guy who is the it is 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.680 the foremost expert, I would say in the General Assembly 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.120 on property tax because we're all sweating right now. We're 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:49.719 seeing rates go up as high as one hundred and 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.479 thirty percent here in southwest Ohio. A lot of people 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.799 just screaming, stop the pain. And there's a group out 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.719 there that's trying to get on the ballot November. Just 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:02.439 that a constitutional amendment that would eliminate Ohio's property tax. 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.680 But we got to pay for fiery ms, school police, 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.560 all that stuff. You'll get in your roope. But we 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:08.200 had rough winner here. I know you had a rough 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.319 winner too, especially up north. We got hammer down here 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.520 in Cincinnati, and uh, hey, you know'd be nice if 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.840 we can get some plows out there. That's a question 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.840 as well. So you know, even and you're a Republican. 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.840 Hamlet County Auditor Jessica Miranda is a Democrat, says called 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.080 I had around on a year or so ago talking 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.239 about this, and she said, it's it's tax shifting, not 0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:31.760 tax relief. That we keep cutting its obligations to locals 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.239 from the state and it appears to help taxpayers, but 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.359 it just kicks the can down to a different area. 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.000 It's not really it's just tax shifting. It's not like, wow, 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.160 I got my taxes, go hey, this is great. Yeah, 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:42.600 but we still got to pay for stuff. How do 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.279 you do that? It's aid And when you Democrats and 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.279 Republicans agree, it sounds like there's impetus to maybe make 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:48.920 some change. 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.160 Yeah, and that that sels a question is what level 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.120 of government is actually the largest and what is actual 0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:00.400 tax reform? In my mind, actual tax reform is the 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.160 taxpayer paying less overall, and it's the government getting less 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:08.480 than overall. And if we continue to essentially prompt up 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.080 and make larger one area of government, which would then 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.160 be for example, local government, all that really does is 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.600 actually take your tax money. It doesn't relieve you or 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:24.080 decrease your burden. It just actually is increasing and almost 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.600 promoting larger growth. A perfect example of that, I say, 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:31.480 is the school systems. So you've probably heard and everyone 0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.880 says all of the state's cutting school funding, the state's 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:38.000 cutting school funding. We have actually been increasing your tax 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:42.520 dollars to public schools since twenty twenty, for example, every 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.000 year almost a billion to two billion dollars and so 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:50.560 tremendous amounts more in taxpayer dollars going to local schools. 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.000 And if that theory were correct, that essentially the statements 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:57.400 needs to pay more to local governments, then our school 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.279 system should not need as much property tax money. But 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.480 what actually happened over the last five years as the 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:07.759 state has increased school funding tremendously. Schools have received, asked for, 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:13.280 taken even more on the property tax side, and essentially 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.200 the philosophy that more is never enough, and so there 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.439 has to be some type of limit, some type of 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.400 control over that government size of government spending, and that's 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.840 essentially trying to decrease in taxes. 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.960 And you mentioned school funding there. That was ruled on 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.920 constitual health. I think even before I was doing talk 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.600 rated for goodness sake back in the nineties, and the 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.040 state still has yeah fully implemented fair school funding. So 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:39.719 if that disappears, that's a whole other crisis there isn't it. 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.400 The ninety seven decision, and that's the Draff decision. It 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:48.240 didn't actually say that property taxes were unconstitutional for schools, 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:53.239 or that it was the taxpayer who was being served unduly. 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.479 It was actually more on the student. So we were 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.600 back then essentially giving a whole bunch of money to 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.200 wealthy areas, wealthy school districts and helping them wealthy kids 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:07.640 versus your poor kids were really being left out. And 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.160 so now what we essentially do. We've had eight different 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:14.680 funding formulas since nineteen ninety seven, and we kind of 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.120 balance out the playing fields. So your wealthier areas, your 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:21.080 state tax dollars still go to those schools, but a 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:25.080 very smaller amount than your poorer areas. Think of in 0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.360 my neck of the woods, East Cleveland's Youngstown City schools, 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:33.120 those schools receive almost thirty thousand dollars per kid from 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:37.719 your state tax dollars. Versus your wealthier school districts, those 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.960 received tremendously less. And that's essentially what that constitutional decision 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.799 said we had to move towards, is trying to give 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.880 an equal opportunity for each of those kids, regardless of 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:53.720 wealthier or poor. But using property taxes or local revenue, 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:55.840 I think has to be a piece of that school 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.680 funding size. When I tell folks that we spend over 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:03.120 thirty billion dollars on public schools, their eyes should just 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.799 get wide because that that is over a third to 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:08.400 almost half of our state budget. 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.360 And look at the results we get. That's a separate 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:12.120 argument entirely. 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:17.160 David, Oh, all right, that's insane. 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.000 So I talked to I lot Bill Sites. Bill Sites 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.879 when he was in office, he was part of Mike 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.279 Dewines working group, and they came up with I believe 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:32.560 twenty targeted relief recommendations, homestead exemptions, deferrals, levy reform, inflation caps. Well, 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:34.680 why didn't that fix the problem. Why shouldn't have to 0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:36.439 fix the problem. I mean, you put the smartest minds 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.640 out there. They said, Okay, here's the plan, and here 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:38.960 we are. 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:40.440 Yeah. 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.600 So I joke, I'm the most vetoed legislator right now. 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.120 A lot of these different reforms were actually in the 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:51.239 state budget last year. The governor vetoed almost all of 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.360 them and then formed his working group to say, okay, 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.000 what what should we do? What if these policies are good, 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.000 bad and you know bill sites. The working group actually 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.800 backed up most of those policies that were in the budget, 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.760 and then other ones too, So we passed five different 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:10.360 bills this past year. Those bills essentially stop them voted spikes, 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:14.480 they give a lot more clarity on the ballot voter control, 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.080 and they actually start decreasing tax bills starting second half 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.800 of this year. So those were essentially the biggest changes 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.320 we've made to the property tax system in fifty years. 0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:26.400 We still have a ton more to do, but we 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:30.440 actually hit almost half of the recommendations of that study 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:34.080 committee just last year alone. In those five different bills. 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.239 Finally, David should voter listening to this thing, but four 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.600 or against the proposal, maybe getting on the belt in November. 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.399 So I don't think that this is the right thing 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:47.320 to do. I think that there's a lot of validity, 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:52.200 and I would not begrudge anyone from voting yes because 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.040 of just how bad the system has gotten. I think 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:57.960 that we can do a lot of good and a 0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:01.040 lot of changes that does not blow up the system 0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:05.520 and cause us to essentially have to redo everything, because unfortunately, 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.920 there's about a month turnaround from when folks vote to 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.920 when this happens, and you're talking about the largest change 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.279 in Ohio structure in our history happening in about one month. 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.880 I'd rather do that more planned out or kind of 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.400 long term and have those changes actually help an impact 0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.040 versus what could happen in that part amount of time. 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.200 Well, we've seen this before. Rests with the marijuana thing 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.320 is that people want something and the legislature doesn't do anything, 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:33.960 and then they come up with a grassroots effort in 0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.040 the legislature steps and said, well, well hold on a second, 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.359 that's kind of what's happening here. We'll find out how 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.200 it plays out again. Ohio represent David Thomas up in 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.520 Jefferson in Northeast ohioh thanks for coming on the show 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:44.640 this morning. I really appreciate it. 0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:46.160 Oh, thank you so much. 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.560 Be well, it's a Scott's Loan show. Yeah, it's like, 0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.200 careful what you wish for, you might just get it. 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:51.480 You know. 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.759 It's America and we want everyone else to pay for 0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.799 what we want. I want something, but you should pay 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.360 for it. Welcome to the United States News and seconds 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:06.040 here seven hundred ww So is that price Boodashie bottled 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.200 water actually better for you just paying for the label. 0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:10.720 And there's a new trend when it comes to hydration. 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.759 People are drinking hot water. I don't know why we're 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.920 drinking hot water to hydrate themselves. But Sonjay Shaperkrimani's here. 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:23.280 He is our resident emergency medicine physician, health, food, fitness, 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.120 It all comes together. You can find him at Revives 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:29.000 Strength in Oakley and his handle is at Dinewell Dock. Sonjay, Welcome, 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.759 How are you brother? Thank you? Son? I'm great. How 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.120 are you. I'm doing FINA A little dehydrated right now. 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.000 I think it's a great topic because most people who 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.120 don't drink it off water to start with, and we 0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.200 don't do that now. Typically, Okay, it's a it's thirty 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.359 five eight ounce glasses a day, but I can carry 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.440 around a twenty four onns water bottle and I have 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.120 a couple of those a day. Usually if I'm doing 0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.400 a little more physical activity, I might have more. Some 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:53.960 days I forget and have less. What's the number? 0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.640 So that's the hard part, right, because we don't think 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.720 in ounces a lot of the time. Sometimes our bottles 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:00.879 which you just took us just make be thirsty talking 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:05.160 about it. Well, it's the numbers if we really want 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:07.360 to go with something. And something easy to remember is 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.279 you take your weight and you divide it by two, 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.440 and that's how many ounces you should have. And then 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.120 knowing that there's eight ounces in a cup, that you 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.680 can divide it another way would be you know, just 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.000 just for me a fair example, I'm just over two 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.640 hundred pounds, that's about one hundred ounces, which would be 0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:23.200 about twelve cups of water as opposed to the eight 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:27.000 cups of water that is usually recommended. So usually it's 0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:30.160 it's about total fluid intake in a day for a 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.799 guy should be around three and a half liters and 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.080 for a woman should be about two and a half 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:35.720 to three lids. 0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:39.240 Okay, And most people go, wow, two hundred hundred ounces. 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:40.800 I'm like, I don't turk anywhere near one hundred. I 0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.520 thought it was pretty good with water, But should you all? 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:45.560 Do you also include things like coffee or if you 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.360 drink pop or other form because food has liquid in 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.040 it too, does that count tours? 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.120 That does count towards your your overall So for men, 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:56.480 three point seven liters is what's recommended, a really easy 0:55:56.560 --> 0:56:00.520 number to remember, but that's total fluid that you take in, 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.600 So that does include all of the liquid, even the 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.440 liquid in your food, so you know a lot of 0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:07.040 vegetables or water, et cetera. 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:08.480 So that counts towards it. 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:09.960 So at the end of the day, that's why I 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.080 go with the weight thing, and that's that is the 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:14.880 water intake you want. So again, for me, two hundred 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.280 pounds becomes one hundred ounces, and that's how much water 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:19.640 or fluids I wanted. 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:21.080 Okay, So how good are you doing? 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:21.359 That? 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:21.920 Horrible? 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.279 But better than I used to be. And that's all 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.960 I chase every day. And so I've I've done some 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:32.680 things to help. But you actually mentioned something, which is coffee. 0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:36.400 There was a long standing thing that says that coffee 0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.840 actually dehydrates you, and we all hear it. So coffee 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.200 tea that dehydrates you. 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:42.000 It doesn't count. 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.960 Coffee and tea actually do hydrate you, not as much 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.319 because you know, coffee and tea are diuretics, so there 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.200 are off sat a little bit. But the overall net 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.080 is still hydration when you have coffee or tea, so 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.640 it doesn't count like as well as water does. But 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.400 it's pretty it's pretty good still. 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.480 Okay, fair enough, and if you eat fruits and bad too, 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.680 you're probably getting more than most people don't get the 0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.839 factor that as well. But okay, two hundred pounds, shoot 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.879 for one hundred hundred. Yeah, either drink more water, lose weight. 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.000 That's that's your That's why not both because it's too 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:11.600 much to do. 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.319 Yeah, I used to be horrible at it. How are 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:15.000 you with the water? 0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:15.319 I see? 0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:18.680 I tried to to too, Like I think like two 0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.600 maybe three of those a day, but now I'm like, well, crap, 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.560 I need drink four of those bare minimum, right. 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.160 I mean, like, you know, we can all do a 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:27.600 little bit better. As far as drinking the water, sleep 0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:29.600 over it though, because I have some other things. I mean, 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.240 if you drink too much water, you would lose sleep 0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:32.360 because you'd have to get up to peak. 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.960 Well, that's another part of the problem right there. And 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:38.240 of course you can drink too much water and it's toxic. 0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:39.360 It is toxic. 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:43.040 But those doses are like fraternity hazing doses of water 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.479 water boarded exactly you were. You know, it's it's hard 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:48.920 to make yourself toxic on water, but it is possible. 0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.480 So you know, as always consult with your physicians. You 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:54.400 see people walking around Sarah least she's got I know, 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.520 purified water is stilled water, this dn I deionized water. 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.160 You've got alkaline water, electrolyte in handants, water, vitamin water, 0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:06.240 hydrogen water, fluoridated water, water with water, water, crispy water, 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:10.680 water fed, bacon flavored water, caffeine water actually sounds great bacon. 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.880 I'm in all right, Are you getting anything out of that? Yeah? 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:16.840 So I got a smart I only drink smart water. 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.640 It's like you're dumb in the af you needed drink 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:21.360 seven gallons. 0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:21.600 Yeah. 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:23.439 There are a lot of a lot of things out there, 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:25.280 and a lot of options, and at the end of 0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:27.600 the day, for most of us, at most times of 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:31.640 the day, just normal water is as good as anything else. 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.320 Uh you know, we can we can start with well, 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.920 you mentioned the trend on TikTok, which is, you know, 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:41.360 from the becoming Chinese trend, which is encouraging everyone to 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:45.040 drink hot water in the morning, which actually has no 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:49.360 no basis. Really, it doesn't help detoxify your gut or 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:51.680 anything when you really think about it, you put anything 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.320 in your stomach, Yeah, whatever the water is, it's going 0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:56.680 to go to the to the same temperature your body 0:58:56.760 --> 0:59:00.680 is pretty quickly, so it's not doing anything for you. 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:05.760 Maybe helping your gut motility the smallest amount, but really hot, cold, 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:07.320 room temp it's all the same. 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:11.520 Uh So it's just a livestalle it's Eastern medicine kind 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:11.760 of like. 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:12.560 Yeah. 0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:16.000 And you know the thing about anything, any of these 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:17.920 things we're talking about, as long as they're not toxic, 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.320 is whatever helps you drink more water, that's good. 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.800 It can't chug hot water, so I think I can 0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.080 probably drink to challenge me like that, I can try. 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.920 Uh No, it's it makes it harder and water at 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.320 very high temperatures so greater than one hundred and forty 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.200 degrees can cause burns hirosophagus, sure, and also can cause 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.280 it's been linked to causing cancer. And so you definitely 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.000 don't want to have your water too hot, too much 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.280 hot coffee, hot tea drinking can actually be harmful. 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:47.760 All right, So don't drink all your water hot. I 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:49.680 don't assure the game, but I've heard too it's like 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:51.400 if you if you drink a lot of drink ice 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.240 wor chrug ice water, it will cause your metabolism to 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.120 speed up, but probably maybe a couple calories really not ADATs. 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.480 Yeah, if that again, it'll warm up to your body 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:03.640 temperature in second, so by the time it hits your stomach, 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.800 you're good. And speaking of which, you know your stomach 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.000 is the other part. So there's all the alkali water 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:13.000 out there that basically is a base. So if we 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.680 go back to chemistry, pH is being zero to fourteen. 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.680 Seven is the middle. Less than seven is an acid. 1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:23.880 Your stomach is at one to three for a pH 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:28.760 that's just over battery acid. So it is it's as 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:30.760 it's as acidic as it can get. And then you 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:32.800 put a little bit of alkali in there, and with water, 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.840 it's being in the ocean, so it's not doing much 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:39.080 at all, and so it's not something that is actually 1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:42.479 going to make a real world impact. So I would 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:43.920 recommend not wasting your money on. 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:47.400 Aline alkaline water. What about what about electrolyte in him? 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.040 Does every Because you know, you kind of lost me 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:52.880 when you go into Taco Bell and they've got a 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:54.840 power aid coming out of the fountain next to coke. 1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:58.120 I'm like, I don't know, I'm too Any professional athletes 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:00.440 are coming in, you know after two a days going yeah, 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:03.640 I'm gonna get the I'm going to get a chiloupa 1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:06.560 and oh I've got power Now. It's just become like 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:07.920 you don't need that, do you? 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.000 Most of the time you don't need it. That being 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:13.480 said again, if it's helping you drink water, by all means, 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:18.080 but it really isn't needed. So all the supplements, all 1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.640 the gatorades and power raids, they do have their place. 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:21.800 You know, they were invented. 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:25.360 Gatorade was originally invented for the University of Florida, you know, 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:25.920 the Gators. 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:28.800 It was invented there and where you're playing football in 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:31.320 full pads and one hundred and bleep degrees outside. You 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:34.040 need the exactly you need to replace those salts. You 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:36.360 need that in Cincinnati in February. Probably not. 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:38.959 I mean the way the weather's going. Maybe later today 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:41.080 there'll be ninety and you'll need it. Who knows, but yeah, 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:43.360 if you're sweating a lot, if you're a person you 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:45.840 know who in general sweats, if you've had a you know, 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:49.000 sixty minute workout in the day and you're drenched with sweat, sure, 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:51.480 but most of the time, plain water is going to 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:52.800 be your friend, and there's nothing wrong with it. 1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:54.160 There's also hydrogen water. 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:58.680 What's that Hydrogen water has just got so this is 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.600 the one that might actually have the H the H 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:06.000 the H two is it's like all the hs you want. 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.800 It's as crazy H two O two exactly. Well, that's 1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:12.120 hydrogen proxide, Scott, we won't. You don't want to drink 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:18.200 that at all? Breath It's gonna smell great, yes, but no, 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:20.080 do not drink hydrogen proxide. 1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.000 This is the biggest thing you can learn from this episode. 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:28.400 Please don't. But the hydrogen water is the Chinese are 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:30.440 doing it and they're. 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.280 Living one year longer. Than we are, so there must know. 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:37.240 So hydrogen water actually has some promise, especially in the lab. 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:39.439 So what it does is that the thought is it's 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:42.440 helping with the what we call free radicals of oxygen 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:46.120 in your body, and it's actually been shown to help. 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:49.600 The problem is it's a kind of unstable thing. The 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:51.760 second you open a bottle, most of your hydrogen is 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:53.960 going to escape out of the bottle, and so you're 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:56.520 not going to really absorb a lot. So in theory 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:59.160 it's great, and the studies are still coming out. So 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:01.080 this is one that's in the balance. But if you're 1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:03.760 paying ten times more for that, it's probably not going 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:06.920 to be worth it. But it doesn't seem to be harmful. 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:10.640 At the same time, with the way things are. We're 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:17.040 the debate with RFK Junior over think of floride and water. 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:21.360 Where are you in that? I'm okay with it. I 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.880 think I probably did and I turned out relatively okay. 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.200 I mean it's questionable. Ask my what's the concern. 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:29.160 Of the what's the danger and what's the perceived danger 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:30.480 with flora in the water, what's the. 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.120 I'd have to look into that one more. Scott, I 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.920 can't remember all the details. I can't either, but I know, 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:37.919 well the floor we shouldn't. You should have a choice 1:03:37.960 --> 1:03:38.840 as to what's in your water. 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:41.440 I mean, I guess, but you know, it's the evidence 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:43.280 is pretty the date, it's pretty good. Since we've been 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.800 doing this as long is you know the amount of 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:48.400 people whose teeth are riding and you don't see people 1:03:48.400 --> 1:03:51.120 wearing dentures anymore, right, Yeah, because. 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:53.680 Yeah, the drinking part of is protective. It's also the 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.120 quality of the water we're drinking. Where Cincinnati is one 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:58.760 of the best in the country, so that actually brings 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:01.080 up another thing as far as like quality of the water. 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:03.880 I know, I personally, you know, I start my day 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:05.880 and this is how I start my count and make 1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:07.400 sure I drink enough water in the day. I have 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:10.120 thirty ounces of water essentially first thing in the morning, 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:12.440 and that's straight from the tap. I do have a 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:15.680 filter on my fridge and we use that, you know sometimes, 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:17.520 But I'm also okay with the tap water here. I 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:20.800 believe in it. But that's that's personal preference. And it 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:23.680 does get rid of some of the extra stuff if 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:26.000 you have a filter on your fridge, but certainly nothing 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:28.200 you need like a eight thousand dollars filter. 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:31.520 For Yeah, yeah, reverse osmosis. I mean that might be 1:04:31.560 --> 1:04:34.360 coming to the house some of your pipes. But yeah, 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:35.960 but you know, if you think the water tastes fine 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:37.840 or something, you know, they have the ones in the 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:39.640 tap or brit a picture or something like, and people 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.280 do that. It's exactly and that's more than enough. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:04:42.280 --> 1:04:44.840 but does that also take minerals out that you need 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:46.640 so a little bit. 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:48.800 But a negligible amount, and there's still plenty in there 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:49.680 that that will. 1:04:49.560 --> 1:04:52.320 Get through people that have a water softener. Is that, Tommy, 1:04:53.280 --> 1:04:55.880 I'm not sure, but I don't think it does. Not 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:58.120 like the salt adds. The salt goes into the water, 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:01.800 you don't taste it correct, Yeah, excuse a filter? Okay again, 1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:05.040 Sanjay Shafercamani's here answer the questions about water. You think 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:07.280 there'd be no questions about We have questions about water 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:10.880 in this trend that's grown on TikTok as. My wife 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:12.760 saw this the other day, pointed it out that people 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:14.440 are drinking hot water. Now, what the hell is that 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:16.800 doing for you? It's hot water, It's like drinking cold. 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:19.200 It's water. Water's water, And is that pricey bottle of 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:21.160 water that you get I don't know at the store, 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:22.960 or you're like, I think I need this. You know 1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:25.600 that with the enhancements in it, you really don't. You 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:26.959 just your your body needs water. 1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:27.320 You know. 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:28.800 The other thing too, is you drink all those people, 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:30.920 But well, I gotta I gotta do a cleanse. But 1:05:31.040 --> 1:05:33.960 isn't the job of those organs inside your body to 1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:36.560 do what it is you're trying to do? Like that, 1:05:36.560 --> 1:05:38.880 That's what the cleanse is. If your lover and your 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:39.960 kidneys are doing the job. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:42.040 R If you want to sell anything today, just say 1:05:42.200 --> 1:05:44.400 it detoxifies and it will sell. 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:45.560 And that's what you know. 1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:48.960 Water literally does that by helping your organs flush the 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:51.800 stuff out. It's not like any specific water will do it. 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:54.040 As long as you have water flowing through your organs 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:57.120 to help the blood pump, you will detoxify yourself. So 1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:59.160 you know, it doesn't matter what you're putting in. Again, 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:02.360 the stomach does a great job of neutral or actually 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:05.160 acidifying everything that you know you're gonna get the same 1:06:05.160 --> 1:06:07.680 stuff that passes into your bowels and then gets absorbed. 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:10.480 That that does also bring up one point. 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:12.240 A lot of people are like oh, I shouldn't have 1:06:12.320 --> 1:06:15.080 sugar in my fluid, so you know, full sugar gatorade. 1:06:15.160 --> 1:06:18.360 But there's actually some use to having some sugar in 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:20.600 your water. And this is not a time and so 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:23.080 maybe a little bit of honey or a little bit 1:06:23.120 --> 1:06:24.960 of fruit juice, but maybe not to the degree that 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:27.520 gatorade is. There's probably like twice as much sugar as 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:30.560 you need in there. But that does help water go 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:33.800 from your bowels or your intestines into your bloodstream. So 1:06:34.080 --> 1:06:35.960 it helps with the absorption of water to have a 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:37.120 little bit of sugar, but not. 1:06:37.120 --> 1:06:39.640 Too much, okay, But there's these packets you put in. 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:41.680 One is like for recovery. If you're a crushing at 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:43.520 the night before like you do, you're you're the club. 1:06:43.960 --> 1:06:45.960 It's three four o'clock in the morning. I told you 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.120 not to talk about that on air. You're gonna get 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:49.880 the you know, it's gonna help you hydrate and halt 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:52.680 your body hole much like garin. That's like a gator 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:56.000 but just people won't drink wad unless it's flavored. Is 1:06:56.040 --> 1:07:00.720 that what's worse? The flavoring or the fact that you're drinking. 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:02.640 I mean, it seems like if that helps you get 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:04.840 more water. That's a good thing, right in general. 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:08.200 Yes, I'm I'm a big fan of flavored water just 1:07:08.200 --> 1:07:10.800 because I just don't enjoy flat water. So I like 1:07:10.840 --> 1:07:13.680 bubbles in my water, and I like, you know, stuff 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:16.200 that I actually know what it is. So there's this 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:18.840 big thing as far as like anything that says natural flavors. 1:07:18.880 --> 1:07:21.320 You can't really count on what that is, but I 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:24.439 promise I'm not sponsored by them. But spin Drift has 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:27.400 you know, bubble carbonated water that just said real few 1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:29.280 fruit juice in it, and that's it, and so you 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:32.560 know what you're getting. It's minimal calories. It's just a 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:34.680 little bit of extra sugar to help with that absorption. 1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:37.000 So that's what I go with. But again to your point, 1:07:37.120 --> 1:07:39.000 anything that makes you drink more water, even if it 1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:42.120 has natural flavors, If you're drinking more water, that's a 1:07:42.240 --> 1:07:43.439 good thing in the long run. 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:45.520 Yeah, And most of those things are you know, you 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:47.120 got to watch. So I think you know, there's certain 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:49.240 a lot of pop have chemicals in it, and that's 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:52.320 a concern if that's your primary source of hydration. What 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:55.240 does that do for you outside the chemicals, I. 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:57.920 Mean, from a hydration standpoint, you're going to be hydrating 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:00.840 at least a little bit. Again, the caffeine a mild diuretic, 1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:02.360 so it's gonna make you peel a little bit more 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:04.760 than water would, and you get the chemicals in there, 1:08:04.800 --> 1:08:06.840 and you know there's other stuff. But I love a 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:09.040 coke zero at the same time, I'm just not making 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:12.080 not my primary source of intake as I'm drinking as 1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:14.120 celsius at the same time while looking at it. 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:16.120 Yeah, a water in a five way don't go together. 1:08:16.160 --> 1:08:20.599 You need to, I mean teach through a five way. 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:24.559 I'm gonna have a cog with it. Sanjay Shaver Krimani, 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:26.960 our air physician on the show This Smart Little Food 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:28.920 Health Fitness, we talk all that. We're talking about water 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:30.760 in the myth of water, and you just need to 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:32.960 drink water. Tap water is fine. You know, if you 1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:36.080 want to spend money on pH enhanced that's your money. 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:37.320 You do what you want with it, but you're not 1:08:37.360 --> 1:08:40.439 getting any benefit. It's the thing, and tap is now 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:42.400 you know, bottle water sin, I've got bottles of water 1:08:42.439 --> 1:08:44.479 in my fridge. And if you know a company comes 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:46.680 to company water, you know I had somebody glass of 1:08:46.720 --> 1:08:49.479 water here. Any water. Get a bottle of water, show 1:08:49.560 --> 1:08:52.040 some class at least have a six pack of Desgani 1:08:52.120 --> 1:08:53.639 or some Kroger water, something like. 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:55.639 It's cheap, may as well use a glass then at 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:58.519 that point, like a glass bottle that would be really classy. 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:00.600 Yeah, I would be. Well, there's some of the bougie 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:03.160 mineral water. I mean perry A right, that was the 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:05.400 first when we started. That was back in the seventies 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:07.040 or eighties. I guess when they came out, it's like, oh, 1:09:07.080 --> 1:09:10.240 you got this bougie French water. Now look at well 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:11.439 you're drinking celsias. What's that? 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:16.479 How many chemicals earned that? Only about eighty seven? Yeah, 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:18.800 give or take. There's a lot of letters on it. 1:09:18.880 --> 1:09:21.040 I love it because you keep it real. It's like, yeah, 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:23.320 I'm as bad as anybody else about all this stuff. 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:25.599 So it's fine. Everything you need to know about water. 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:27.240 You do not need to drink hot water. You don't 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:30.559 need to just drink water. Drink again. Divide your weight 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:32.000 in half and that's how the ounces you should have. 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:33.800 You got easy math. Even I can do that, and 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:37.559 I suck it math. Sanjay Shaved CARMANI is here jumps 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:41.040 on the show every Thursday morning, we talk food, fitness, health. 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.800 He's a emergency medicine physician. You can find him at 1:09:43.880 --> 1:09:47.759 Dinewell Dock or his place at Revived Strength in Okley. 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:49.880 Appreciate your brother, Thanks again, thank you. So we'll get 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:52.120 news on the way in just minutes. Jack Render's here. 1:09:52.280 --> 1:09:55.120 Horrible story involving Grock, the AI client that's on x 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:58.200 slash Twitter, where you can, you know, upload an image 1:09:58.200 --> 1:09:59.760 and go, hey, make this person have no clothes on, 1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:02.240 and they do this and we've got four i think 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:05.200 four plus million images that came out in nine days, 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:07.960 and almost two million of those were of women and children. 1:10:07.960 --> 1:10:10.640 It's really interesting and what can the law do to 1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:15.080 protect kids and everyone else from AI. We'll get into 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:17.160 that next to the show Afternoons on the Home of 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:19.200 the Red seven hundred WWT, Cincinnatis. 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:20.960 Do you want to be an American? 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:25.400 Scott Flues Show on seven hundred WLW. How about this 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:29.320 happened a little while ago. Elon Musk's AI chatbot generated 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:32.360 millions of sexualized images of real women and children and 1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:35.080 posted them publicly. And of course, at the same time 1:10:35.120 --> 1:10:37.920 in Lawrenceburg, we have this teen sex stortion case going 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:40.880 on and it's disturbing, and so the next year is 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:44.000 creating and disturbing this content is pretty easy now with AI. 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:46.920 The question is, so what does the law do about it? 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:49.479 Is enough? What about the First Amendment? Jack Ryners here 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:53.760 a one a constitutional expert with Farouki here in Cincinnati. Jack, 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:56.600 Welcome on this snowy Thursday morning. How are you. 1:10:57.320 --> 1:10:58.000 I'm doing well? 1:10:58.040 --> 1:10:58.479 Doing well? 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:01.679 Okay, So the stories If you didn't hear this, so Grock, 1:11:01.720 --> 1:11:05.120 it's an AI chatbot that's on X and you can 1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:07.880 go in there if you're an ex user Twitter and 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:12.160 generate these images. Right, So, people get on there and 1:11:12.200 --> 1:11:15.760 they generated and publicly posted about approximately two million sexualized 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:18.960 images of women and children. In just nine days, there 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:22.400 were more than four point four million AI generated images, 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:24.720 and not all those were porn, but about half of 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:27.080 them more so roughly two million. And all you do 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:29.160 is you simply ask GROC to remove the clothing from 1:11:29.160 --> 1:11:32.360 photos of real people, including children, and the boch complied 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:36.760 and posted all the stuff online. Not only is that 1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:39.639 a huge moral dilemma, but it's also a legal one 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:42.320 at that. So we'll begin with the it's called the 1:11:42.360 --> 1:11:44.679 Take It Down Act, and that covered deep bit Congress pass. 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:47.240 This covers deep fakes and people and intimate sexual acts. 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:48.559 Does that cover this? 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:58.600 I think it does? You know, I think really the 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:02.479 question is is it a fish? It is it? Because 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:05.680 my understanding to Take It Down Act is that it 1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:09.200 requires that it be literally taken down. I mean, you 1:12:09.240 --> 1:12:11.080 know that there can be a demand to take it down. 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:14.600 I don't know that. I don't think that it provides 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:17.640 for any really serious criminal penalty for it, which I 1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:21.599 think is the concern here. If I can do it, 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.479 you know, if I'm one of those people that that's 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:27.600 posting this stuff and the worst thing that happens to 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.880 me is I get in order to take it down? 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:32.760 All right, so what you know, move on to just 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:34.519 want to do it again and get another one. So 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:37.559 I think that the concern that people have, the rightful 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:41.960 concern that people have, is whether or not there's sufficient 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:45.519 keath in the law. And I think right now, no, 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:48.200 I think that that needs to be revisited, and I 1:12:48.240 --> 1:12:52.880 think there has to be some consideration for you know, 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:54.680 actually criminal counties. 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:56.640 Well that's the thing, right, and typically the way the 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:58.439 law works is if you do something like that, you 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:00.960 get a C and D season desist and you have 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:03.000 an opportunity to remedy it. And that's the way the 1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:05.240 law works. It's that's fairness. But the problem is is 1:13:05.280 --> 1:13:08.000 we know that that image has now been distributed, disseminated 1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:11.519 and duplicated countless times on the internet. Once it's out 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:13.200 of the barn. I mean, it's really out of the barn. 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:15.040 There's no one do feature on this one. 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:18.400 No, there really isn't, you know. And if you say 1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:22.080 that can be that's fine. So the person who originally 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:27.200 posted it, if you can find that person, that's an issue. 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:31.559 But you know, if it's if it's posted, you really 1:13:31.640 --> 1:13:35.240 can't control who forwards it, who gets it, who who 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:40.960 forged it again and again and again. So it would 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:46.080 be good, I think, to have some method to try 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:51.360 it innefit. But and again, you know, criminal law serves 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.360 a couple of purposes. One is to punish the wrongdoer. 1:13:54.600 --> 1:13:57.439 Two is to deter other people from doing it. Right, 1:13:57.560 --> 1:14:03.519 So without a scient penalty, uh, you don't have much 1:14:03.520 --> 1:14:04.240 of turrence. 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:07.320 Well. Also, I look at this Lawrenceburg High School middle 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:10.200 school situation involving sex stortion cases, which is just a 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:14.040 terrible story, and that involves minors being manipulated into producing 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:17.160 their own images, because if they're extorted, they're saying, hey, 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:18.600 send me a pay I'll send you a picture of me, 1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:21.880 which isn't a real person. They send something, and now 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.800 they blackmail them as how this works. So if AI 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:25.920 is now used to generate those images without the victim 1:14:25.920 --> 1:14:29.719 ever sending anything, does that fundamentally change the legal exposure 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:30.440 for the perpetrator. 1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:40.519 Uh well, I think if if there's extortion involved, I 1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:48.519 think you probably existing laws can probably address that. Okay, 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:53.960 not to say there's not a good reason to a 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:57.400 man or an act and specific legislation, but if I 1:14:57.760 --> 1:15:01.479 am blackmailing you or story you, I think there is 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:09.559 probably room under existing laws about victorian and blackmail that 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:13.400 you could probably prosecute the person who is who is 1:15:13.439 --> 1:15:15.600 doing that. I do think if you noted, but I 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:21.600 think it's worth emphasizing the cases of Lawrence Burg involved. 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:26.680 Like you say, actual images, these were not AI generated 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:30.320 or manipulated. These, But the problem here were younger people 1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:36.280 teenagers being pressured, pray enough pressure for manipulated into providing 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:43.000 these these images. So, uh, you know, arguably it's worse 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:48.120 because I think that if your images is AI uh 1:15:50.040 --> 1:15:54.080 generated you know, that's that's upsetting and that sort of thing, 1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:57.719 but you are not at least you don't probably blame 1:15:57.800 --> 1:15:59.800 yourself like the kids and. 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:02.439 Wrensburg, you know what I mean, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:07.080 So I think that's a that's another consideration, Okay, I 1:16:07.080 --> 1:16:09.160 would think that there'd be you know. One of the 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:14.639 things is, though, however, is that in the sex storishing cases. 1:16:15.280 --> 1:16:17.760 I think that you get, as you do in a 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:23.000 lot of sexually oriented crimes, can you get the victim 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:27.920 to come forward and you know, testify and participate because 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:31.160 of the embarrassment, and you know, that's the shame and 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:35.040 that's that's unfortunate and sadly. 1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:36.800 The problem is that these kids are taking their own lives. 1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:39.000 It's a you know, long term, permanent solution to a 1:16:39.040 --> 1:16:42.120 temporary problems. The old adage goes, and you just can't 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:45.080 reason with them, and they feel alone and isolated and victimized, 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:46.760 and and they want to take their lives. It's just 1:16:46.760 --> 1:16:49.160 a horrible, horrible thing. Uh But I look at this 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:51.439 and now there's a movement underway here. Jack. By the way, 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:53.439 Jack Grinder on the show, he's a First Amendment attorney 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:57.200 here in Cincinnati, and so the problem was with Grock, 1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:59.880 which is an al chat bot on x So they 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:01.960 released this and said, hey, you upload a photo and 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:03.640 you can do whatever you want. You could have you know, 1:17:03.680 --> 1:17:04.519 you standing on the moon? 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:04.720 What it? 1:17:04.760 --> 1:17:07.400 It's okay? Great? But now well literally when the first 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:10.080 nine days of it, people uploaded images and said take 1:17:10.120 --> 1:17:11.880 the clothes off these people, and some of them were 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:15.320 women and children. In nine days, four point four million 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:18.599 AI generated images did just that, and half of those 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:21.160 were pornographic or in this violation. And there's no law 1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:25.280 dealing with this. That's the issue. So moving forward with law, 1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:30.519 if you misappropriate someone's likeness, name, images and likeness not privacy, 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:33.880 law is a do we need a new hook for 1:17:33.920 --> 1:17:36.840 a new statue? So how would you how would the 1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:38.120 legislature go about doing this? 1:17:39.760 --> 1:17:42.320 I think that it could take some of the existing 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:47.280 trame work. There are Ohio has a statute that deals 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:51.720 with misappropriate to the name, image and likeness. It's more 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:55.160 of it, but it's a civil remedy. It gives you 1:17:55.320 --> 1:17:58.280 a right to proceed in a law to an under 1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:02.160 trademark law. You know there's that you would have a 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:05.920 right because if your image is misused. So there's lots 1:18:05.920 --> 1:18:11.160 of uh, remedies. I guess on the civil side, I 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:17.200 would think you could take that and rework that language 1:18:17.720 --> 1:18:21.840 into a criminal into some sort of criminal statue. 1:18:22.200 --> 1:18:22.439 Uh. 1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:25.120 And I don't think that would be a First Amendment problem. 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:29.040 I think you have to carve out exceptions for political 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:34.040 commentary or parody. Uh, you know, and that gets a 1:18:34.040 --> 1:18:36.880 little murky, but I think that you'd have to do 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:42.960 that because you know, it's tricky. But I think that uh, 1:18:43.479 --> 1:18:47.679 if you're substituting somebody's likeness on a naked body or whatever, 1:18:49.240 --> 1:18:51.440 that you could you could somehow work into the statue 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:56.559 to sexualized use of the photo so that legitimate paroity. 1:18:56.600 --> 1:19:00.280 If somebody takes Trump's face and puts it on what ever, 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:04.599 probably and that you know, in a way that's legitimate 1:19:04.600 --> 1:19:08.840 political correntary. I think that that probably ought to be 1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:12.640 carved out some somehow or another. I think there's probably a 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:14.519 way to do it. I mean, I think I need 1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:15.360 a little bit of time. 1:19:15.680 --> 1:19:15.760 Uh. 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.720 I'm not asking for a court rolling here, Senator. 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:25.800 I'm good, but yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:27.640 But you know you're you're talking about this and what 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:29.559 just came into my mind this is also outside your 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:32.240 scope here. But you're saying, hey, you know, basically you 1:19:32.280 --> 1:19:34.639 own your your your image, your name, image and likeness. 1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:37.040 Could this argument, if this is codified in the law, 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:39.559 could could that undermine the whole high school and I 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:41.839 all think we're talking about here saying well, you, according 1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:43.639 to this, you own your enn image of the likeness 1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:44.760 and you can do what you want with it. 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:49.080 Well, yeah, but that's from the perspective of the person 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:51.559 who owns the name image of Like, we're not talking 1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:56.840 here about somebody if manipulating for their own namas. We're 1:19:56.840 --> 1:19:59.560 talking about a third party, sure, manipulating. 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:02.120 Yeah, but you're saying you own it, not someone else 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:03.600 can't do what they want with it. So it's like 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:07.720 if I own it, then I can monetize it. Oh sure, yeah, yeah, 1:20:07.720 --> 1:20:09.320 this could be it's gonna be sticky for them for 1:20:09.360 --> 1:20:10.960 the I mean, that's a separate argument. I don't want 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:12.840 to get off on the weeds here. So the First 1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:15.800 Amendment protects a lot of uncomfortable speech. So what's the 1:20:15.800 --> 1:20:18.719 competition line between protected expression and what rock. 1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:25.200 Produced political commentary or true parity. I mean, it's distasteful 1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:30.640 as the thing with the Obama on the eighth bodies, right, 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:34.560 I don't think that should be a crime. Okay, yeah, 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:37.920 because I think that in those sort of you know, 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:44.080 cruel way was probably some sort of political commentary. Uh 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.559 So I think there has to be some carve out there. 1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:49.200 I'm not sure that you know, if you if you 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:53.240 put I don't know. You know, if you just having fun, 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:55.840 you take some high school athletes space and you want 1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:59.559 to show a powerful, you know, wrestler. This guy is 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:03.719 clopping on top of the Hulk's body. Again, I don't 1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:07.960 think that's criminal. Uh you know, I think there has 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:11.040 to be some sort of the sexual dacent I think 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:14.120 is probably the issue that you know what I'm wondering about, 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:20.200 is is it? And again I do not understand or 1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:24.439 know anything about how you do coding COMPUTERIVI why did 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:31.400 why somebody provided this mechanism on rock or you know, 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:34.719 like the say, manipulating those so I could be standing 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:40.000 on the moon or whatever. I'm wondering why the option 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.760 even existed for removing clothing, you know what I mean? 1:21:43.960 --> 1:21:46.519 Yeah, why would you do that? Make them naked? I 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:48.040 can't believe that they didn't think of that when they 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:49.400 were writing the code you know what I mean, you'd 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:51.000 have to go, hey, I can use this to you know, 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:53.479 like the old X ray glasses thing in the back 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:56.160 of you know, boys life and tray glasses on. What 1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:58.519 are you going to do with those? Of course they 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:02.160 didn't work. This does. 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.000 Order you have to work for? 1:22:05.120 --> 1:22:05.280 Yeah? 1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:07.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wonder if those X ray 1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:11.240 glasses I actually work now They probably don't. Yeah, And 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:13.479 I guess there's another element here too, is that that 1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:16.599 GROC put this publicly on X. Is does xpair legal 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:18.920 liability under the law or is you know, we always 1:22:18.920 --> 1:22:21.400 talk about section two thirty. It seems like that that 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:23.960 would provide cover for this whole thing. 1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:28.439 Not necessarily be so the idea of second two thirty 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:33.400 is that in an internet service provider, it is not 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:39.040 liable for third party content. Okay, however, there is a 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:46.360 card out for uh intellectual property uh court, so uh 1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.840 there may potential gotcha? 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:55.519 Could could someone sue Grock or X under existing common law? 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:59.479 Mean there's intentional inflection, emotional distress would come top of 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.200 mind probate to see stuff like that. What would they 1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:01.679 need to prove? 1:23:03.439 --> 1:23:09.000 Well? I think again, I think the the uh intencial 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:14.200 infliction probably is covered by the the section two thirty 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:19.320 immunity because that's not an intellectual property claim that would 1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:21.759 be that would be based on the third party content. 1:23:21.840 --> 1:23:23.760 But again I think I think you could make a 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:30.360 claim potentially for it's called a right of publicity, the 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:33.080 violation of the right of publicity. In other words, I've 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:37.160 got the right to choose how money images us. I 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:41.960 also have the right to receive monetary compensation for the 1:23:42.040 --> 1:23:47.960 use of it. There's debate the language of section two thirty. 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:49.599 I'm getting in the wheeze a little bit here, especially 1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:53.800 the language of section two thirty says that there's a 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:58.839 carve out from the immunity for intellectual property towards UH. 1:23:58.920 --> 1:24:01.880 And there's some debate eight about whether right of publicity 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:06.439 is technically an intellectual property UH court a different courts 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:09.320 to go on different ways. Yeah, but so so that's 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:11.439 that's why I said there could be rather than there is. 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.920 I mean, there definitely could be, but it would depend 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:14.960 on you know what court you're in. 1:24:15.560 --> 1:24:19.000 Jack Reiner. Unlike what's happening in Lawrenceburg with that store 1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:22.280 that that's real in this case, when a miner's images 1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:25.639 used to generate a sexualized image on AI with Grock. 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:29.600 Does that trigger existing federal child pornography statute or is 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:33.120 there a loophole because no actual child was photographed the act, 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:35.600 it's the head, but it's imaginary. 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:42.839 The recollection is that the Supreme Court dealt with that issue, 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:49.120 you know, the the uh fake child born and I think, 1:24:49.240 --> 1:24:52.160 if my memory serves, if they found that that was 1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:58.959 not violation of child pornography. Wow, now that was however 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:06.519 completely uh uh. The entire image was generated by a 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:13.000 here if you're using a real faith and a fake body, 1:25:13.040 --> 1:25:15.160 that would be an interesting question. And I think that 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:17.559 might be that seems like a different set of back. 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:20.120 Okay, really really interesting. Where do you think this goes 1:25:20.160 --> 1:25:22.240 in the next I don't know if there's a big 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:24.680 impetus to get this change, but my god, you know, 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:27.479 you're talking about millions and millions of images of people, 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:29.400 and you know, you could be on social or or 1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:30.880 you could be on and all of a sudden, you know, 1:25:31.160 --> 1:25:32.960 six months later, said hey did you see this? It's 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:34.960 a naked picture of you, and especially if you're a 1:25:34.960 --> 1:25:38.040 woman or child, really really disturbined. Not only that, but 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:39.679 I'm you know, someone says it to me, Hey, here's 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:42.519 a heads up. You know that now you're teetering on 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:44.599 child pornography here. This is going to be a really 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.040 difficult thing for the courts to navigate. 1:25:47.000 --> 1:25:50.599 Yeah, I think I don't know if Congress will get 1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:52.479 around to it. I wouldn't. 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:54.280 Well I got to show up, Jack, for that to 1:25:54.320 --> 1:25:57.720 actually happen. So the answer, there's no, But. 1:25:57.760 --> 1:26:01.439 I think different state legislation. I would look for efforts 1:26:01.680 --> 1:26:05.200 in state to deal with it before I suspect Congress 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:05.760 will get her ask. 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:08.120 Yeah, but then, of course, you know, you have offshore, 1:26:08.200 --> 1:26:10.880 you have different states, you have jurisdiction, and that's the 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.479 whole mess entirely. There's really interesting and scary at the 1:26:13.479 --> 1:26:16.840 same time. Jack Reiner, first Amendment expert at Farruki here 1:26:16.920 --> 1:26:19.080 in Cincinnati. Always appreciate the time, brother, Thanks again. 1:26:19.240 --> 1:26:20.599 All right, man, there you go. 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:23.000 News is on the way in just minutes. More stuff 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:25.360 to worry about there, right, Why that looks like it's 1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:27.160 behind us. So that's good. That's good, that's good. And 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:28.960 maybe this is it for winter? What do you say? 1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:32.160 Fingers crossed? Right just ahead? My wife is here and 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.280 another in my opinion thing, I'm going to be forced 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:36.680 as a husband to do that I want to do, 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:41.479 and it evolves being smarter, allegedly getting smarter seven hundred 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:44.719 She's next, Well, fight next on seven hunderd WLW. 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:48.920 Take a look at your watch. It's Real Estate Time 1:26:49.000 --> 1:26:54.400 with Michelle Sloan Remax time agent straordinaire from Sloan sellshomes 1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:58.639 dot com. Now pay attention, then take notes. There might 1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:02.920 be a pop quiz at the on seven hundred job. 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:05.360 Well, the worst thing in the world happened to you today, 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:05.720 didn't it? 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:11.160 I am naked and at work. What Yeah, I don't 1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:12.200 have my phone with me. 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:16.519 I thought there are two things you forgot today. I 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:19.719 forgot my clothes and I forgot my Which one's worse 1:27:21.200 --> 1:27:24.840 for you? You have that nightmare that you're going to that 1:27:25.000 --> 1:27:25.599 is a nightmare. 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:28.880 But actually not having your phone at work is not 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:30.360 great at all. 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:35.559 Yeah, I've done that before here and they're like our 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.920 phones are used to open doors, log on the like. 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:40.160 If you lose it, your screwgeer, you cannot function. I 1:27:40.200 --> 1:27:42.479 would I have said this many times. I'd rather lose 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:44.800 my wallet than my phone. 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:48.320 You're not wrong, I think, Yeah, I mean I'm still 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:50.800 a nightmare. All of it the whole darn thing my day. 1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:53.519 Thankfully I had the keys to get into the office, 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:55.240 to get into the studio so I could talk to 1:27:55.280 --> 1:27:57.800 you this morning. But I was juggling a whole lot 1:27:57.800 --> 1:27:59.960 of things. I brought Brandon to work with me today 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:04.880 because on Thursdays he likes to come with mom to work. 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:09.439 Bring your puppy to work day. And then yeah, I 1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:11.519 had my material that I was going to talk about. 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.800 I had my hands full. I took the garbage out, 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:16.000 I did all these things. How are you gonna scroll 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:18.800 TikTok for hours? Now? It's a big question that's gonna 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:21.439 happen to something you had brought up to me, and 1:28:21.520 --> 1:28:24.720 I tease this coming in as you wanted to. I 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:26.880 don't know why you suggested this, or I don't know 1:28:26.880 --> 1:28:28.599 if it's one of your friends who suggested this, but 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:31.519 something about getting it. You floated the blue the other 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.439 day about a getting into a book club. 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:39.960 Well, you know, in my old age, I'm trying to 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:44.680 find make make friends, be and be part of different. 1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:45.920 I gotta be honest with you, that's some old white 1:28:45.960 --> 1:28:49.120 stuff you got going on earth there? What about Majong? 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:51.600 That's the thing that I keep hearing is they have 1:28:51.680 --> 1:28:54.800 these majog clubs. No, I'm probably not a book club 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:57.320 kind of gal, I will be honest with you. 1:28:57.720 --> 1:29:00.960 But to me, it's like just I read, try to 1:29:00.960 --> 1:29:02.320 read a book every night. I've been reading the same 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:04.080 book for sixty years because I'll fall asleep. But that's 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.639 the whole point of it right before bed to kind 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:09.080 of you know, shut things down. But and I still 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:10.479 don't know what the book is about at this point. 1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:12.439 I just read about a couple of sentence, same sentence, 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:15.880 over and over because I'm dumb. It just here's the 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:19.000 thing with it, Michelle, I love you, but I do 1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:20.240 not want to be in a book club for the 1:29:20.280 --> 1:29:22.760 simple reason is this. It feels like work to me, 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:25.360 Like if you really re want a book, read a book. 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:28.040 I just yeah, it's like school, Like I know how 1:29:28.080 --> 1:29:30.479 I was in school years and years and years ago, 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:33.120 and that's where we met. In school, and you know 1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:34.960 kind of student. I was a terrible student, and I 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:37.720 would I'd cram the night before. I feel like on 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.559 the way to the book club meeting that I'd be 1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:42.400 looking at my ID at the stop of the store 1:29:42.479 --> 1:29:44.800 or download of cliffs notes, so I knew what I 1:29:44.880 --> 1:29:46.559 was talking about with the book because I don't really 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.719 want to read this stupid book. But at the same time, 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:51.439 and then there's this pressure, and I'm wondering if I'm 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:53.400 going to have the nightmares that I can't get to 1:29:53.439 --> 1:29:56.080 book club and people are preventing me from getting there 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:58.400 and taking the exam. It's like an episode of Seinfeld, 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:00.960 it is, but it's not got a study for the 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:08.080 book club. Yeah, I don't need pressure. There's a lot 1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:10.240 of pressure. Yeah, I you know. 1:30:10.240 --> 1:30:13.960 I was invited to participate in the book club. 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:15.800 I thought about it for about three point five O. 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:17.960 Thank god because you asked me about them, Like, oh, 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:20.000 here we go. This is how you plant that seed. 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.080 You know what you're doing. There's a seed planet here, 1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:24.000 here we go. You're not going to join the book 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:28.160 club with me. I know better than that. Here's the thing. 1:30:28.320 --> 1:30:29.880 We read all the time. 1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:33.040 I mean we're always reading about I'm reading about real 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:35.840 estate and things that are going on in my little world. 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:39.799 You're reading about all the things, and we're constantly reading. 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:43.200 But we don't have a lot of time for just yeah, 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:47.320 I don't know, reading reading just for the fun of it. Eventually, 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:49.280 AI is going to do this with stupid. We don't 1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:50.160 need to read anymore. 1:30:52.800 --> 1:30:55.360 Kids. Kids, if you're listening and you're going to school, 1:30:56.520 --> 1:30:58.679 you know what di plumbers are stupid. They don't mean anything. 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:02.000 This is a great topic. I want to get it 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:04.080 because we had a conversation with some friend of ours 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:05.840 the other night about this, and it has to do 1:31:05.920 --> 1:31:09.040 with fires. And we just had a story from Cincinnati 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:11.920 Fire Department. Nearly two dozen residential fires. We had what's 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:14.439 six or seven fatals there, and it's a usually high, 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:16.720 non presented number of this early and it obviously has 1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:18.160 to do with the cold weather and I imagine too 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:21.160 people trying to stay warm. There's a huge increase in 1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:23.720 the number of fires and fatal fires for this, so 1:31:24.840 --> 1:31:27.400 the numbers are elevated compared to recent years. So what 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:29.799 do you need to know about that? Relative to insurance 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:31.160 and documentation and all that. 1:31:31.120 --> 1:31:34.760 Stuff, there's certainly a lot to think about. Insurance is 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:37.160 the big thing, But if let's start with the basics, 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:40.840 you need to have smoke detectors, working smoke detectors. A 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:44.160 couple of those fatal fires they did not have working 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:47.799 smoke detectors. And I find when I'm going through people's homes. 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.639 A lot of people who love to cook will take 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:54.200 these smoke detectors or unhook them because they're a pain 1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:56.360 in the butt because if you cook a lot, and 1:31:56.400 --> 1:32:00.599 you cook and you create you know, some smoke as 1:32:00.640 --> 1:32:04.240 it were, they go off all the time and they're 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:07.320 quite sensitive. We have that problem in our house and 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:11.680 scarce the daylights out of the dog. But smoke detectors. 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:15.120 You have to have working smoke detectors. And there's a 1:32:15.200 --> 1:32:18.920 nice thing you can add on carbon monoxide detectors as well. 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:21.680 Recommend cheap too. That is the big thing you can 1:32:21.680 --> 1:32:23.960 do is car Well, let me rewind at a second 1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:26.280 for and I'll put my you know, remodeler hat on here. 1:32:26.320 --> 1:32:28.680 Typically people will not think about their especially if you 1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:30.880 a house where it's wired in or writing their daisy chain, 1:32:30.920 --> 1:32:32.599 meaning they all work together, one goes off, they all 1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:35.080 go off. That's been code for a while now, and 1:32:35.400 --> 1:32:37.599 people who have homes in the last number of years 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:40.240 have those and they generally don't check them and test 1:32:40.280 --> 1:32:41.800 them or anything. No one does that. No one's going 1:32:41.840 --> 1:32:43.880 to get up. And if you have higher ceiling old homes, 1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:47.280 the time change happen in a wee. No one's doing that. 1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:50.120 The newer ones actually have a default battery of the 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:51.800 last about ten years, which is nice. But if you 1:32:51.840 --> 1:32:53.360 have the old ones, no one checks them and they're 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:56.240 only good for you know, actually maybe ten years, and 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:58.160 no one's if your house is twenty thirty years old, 1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:00.759 you're probably not checking that, and and things like cooking 1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:02.760 will trigger them. You're like this, stupid, Well, you need 1:33:02.760 --> 1:33:04.280 a new smoke detector. And the new ones are a 1:33:04.320 --> 1:33:06.400 little bit more sensitive or less sensitive, I guess I 1:33:06.400 --> 1:33:08.840 should say, And you'd be doing yourself a favor there, 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.040 But no one's doing this, and I think that's the problem. 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:15.080 Absolutely, So smoke detectors number one. I mean, you want 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:18.160 to save lives inside of your home, you have to 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:20.719 have them. The other thing is, when our kids were little, 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:22.960 we always talk to them about having an escape route 1:33:23.320 --> 1:33:25.920 and a meeting place. If you have never talked to 1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:28.920 your kids about that, you know, it's a conversation. You 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:30.920 don't want to scare them, but at the same time, 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:34.000 it's knowledge that they need to have in their little brains. Also, 1:33:34.240 --> 1:33:36.960 when you're buying a home, if you think you're going 1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:43.120 to use a lower level room without an egress, meaning 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:45.760 a way to get out during a fire. You know, 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:50.080 that's that's a danger. That's a dangerous situation. And you're 1:33:50.080 --> 1:33:53.320 not supposed to have a bedroom. There's reason why I 1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:55.680 can't say there's a bedroom in the basement, even though 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.759 somebody puts a bed in a room in a basement. 1:33:57.840 --> 1:33:58.040 Yep. 1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:01.800 So you need to have a lower level egress in 1:34:01.920 --> 1:34:07.400 order to claim a lower level bedroom as an actual bedroom. 1:34:08.600 --> 1:34:12.400 Need to be smart about The next step is documentation. 1:34:12.760 --> 1:34:15.719 And we were talking about our friends had a fire 1:34:16.280 --> 1:34:20.280 several years ago, and they were talking about just the 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:23.600 nightmare that is remembering what was in your house. 1:34:24.760 --> 1:34:27.320 Before, you know, after the fire. Yeah, they had a 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:30.479 fire in their garage and you know, paper's caught on fire, 1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:32.000 and then you have cars in there. They caught on 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:34.479 fire and next thing that was fully involved and literally 1:34:34.800 --> 1:34:37.720 everything was gone. And then they're like, well, we got 1:34:37.720 --> 1:34:39.880 to go back from memory to try and document what 1:34:39.920 --> 1:34:42.000 we had for the insurance company said even today. That 1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:44.960 was years ago. So they're out shopping they see something going, 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:46.559 oh man, yeah we had one of those and I 1:34:46.600 --> 1:34:49.320 forgot I have that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:51.599 you it's wild too. I had no idea this existed. 1:34:51.640 --> 1:34:54.840 So the insurance companies have this the software's AI and 1:34:55.000 --> 1:34:57.839 they'll take in like an image of something that's melted 1:34:58.200 --> 1:34:59.880 and you look at it, go, I have no idea 1:34:59.880 --> 1:35:01.200 what this was, trying to think where it was in 1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:02.920 the house or whatever. They'll take an image of it, 1:35:03.360 --> 1:35:06.320 and I don't what the reliability rate is, but it'll say, oh, 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:08.840 this is a like she I think your friend had 1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:13.120 a water pick in the bathroom and could believe you forgot. 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:14.760 You know, you don't think of those things. And they 1:35:14.760 --> 1:35:16.120 took a page. She said, I have no idea what 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:17.840 this hunk of plastic is and it said, oh, yeah, 1:35:17.840 --> 1:35:20.160 I was a water pick. That's really really cool. But 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:22.680 it's not going to catch everything. No it's not. 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:26.760 And so the thought is, and again you never want 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:30.200 or a fire to happen, but if something does happen, 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:32.880 you have to be prepared, so you want it. The 1:35:32.960 --> 1:35:37.000 simple room, simple, simple thing is to document what you 1:35:37.080 --> 1:35:40.679 have in your house, especially if you have jewelry. And again, 1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:43.680 in your insurance policy you should be stating some of 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:46.360 these things. But if you're going to everybody's got a 1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:50.760 phone except for me today, walk around your house room 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:52.960 by room and take a video on your phone. It's 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:57.120 definitely any open drawers and closets and take pictures, narrate 1:35:57.240 --> 1:36:01.760 like brand names of items that you own. Maybe you 1:36:01.840 --> 1:36:04.680 want to put some estimated value something like that and 1:36:04.720 --> 1:36:07.880 then store it, email a copy of it to yourself, 1:36:07.960 --> 1:36:11.200 to an external hard drive. Just anything that you can 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:13.960 so that you have the documentation of what's in your home. 1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:17.040 And don't forget the garage, don't forget the lower level, 1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:19.760 the basement where you have you know, piled up all 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:22.400 kinds of stuff. So you want to think about that 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:28.000 because when it comes time to make a claim, you 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:31.040 want to know exactly what you're having to claim. The 1:36:31.120 --> 1:36:33.160 other thing is too and I don't you know this 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:37.080 is something that doing a little research about this. I'm 1:36:37.080 --> 1:36:39.800 not an insurance agent, so that's not my thing, but 1:36:39.960 --> 1:36:42.519 you definitely want to talk to your insurance agent about 1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:46.799 all of these things, like the difference between replacement cost 1:36:47.200 --> 1:36:48.960 and actual cash value. 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:50.920 O what is that you know that? I'm like, I 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:52.320 always get confused, what does that mean? 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:52.559 Right? 1:36:52.640 --> 1:36:53.840 The home? You know? 1:36:53.920 --> 1:36:56.200 Basically, if you say you're the value of your home. 1:36:56.240 --> 1:36:58.880 If I come in as your real estate agents, I say, okay, 1:36:59.040 --> 1:37:01.680 your home is worth five ndred thousand dollars. That is 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:04.800 not the same as what it would cost to rebuild 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:09.120 your home. So replacement cost pays what it costs today 1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:13.479 to replace an item, no deduction, no depreciation. You have 1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:17.880 higher premiums for a replacement cost for better protection. Got 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:20.160 it okay, So if you want replacement costs, it's going 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:23.080 to cost you a little bit more on your insurance policy. 1:37:23.720 --> 1:37:29.080 Then the actual cash value pays the replacement cost minus depreciation. 1:37:29.280 --> 1:37:31.880 So if you're looking at things like your roof, if 1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:34.400 your roof is twenty years old, you're not going to 1:37:34.439 --> 1:37:37.360 get the same as a replacement new roof. You're not 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:39.920 going to get the full whatever it is fifteen twenty 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:44.160 thousand dollars. So your actual cash value, your premiums may 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:48.000 be lower, but you're not going to get everything to 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:49.720 rebuild what you have. 1:37:50.040 --> 1:37:52.439 So that's a tough decision. If your homeowners have cost 1:37:52.479 --> 1:37:54.479 everything's going up, and maybe you're new a you're like, okay, 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:57.880 God for allow, hord, Well, I can't afford the replacement cost. 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:00.920 I'll do ACV, but God forbid, if something happens, you're 1:38:00.920 --> 1:38:01.960 going to be out of pocket a lot. 1:38:02.479 --> 1:38:05.640 It's a lower premium much smaller payout. So if you 1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:08.000 have the ACB and you're like, oh, my insurance rate 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:11.639 it's really really good, Well, you're probably looking at actual 1:38:11.720 --> 1:38:15.800 cash value rather than replacement costs. So that's something you 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:19.040 absolutely need to think about. It's part of that self decision, 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:22.639 the big picture. When you're buying a home. How do 1:38:22.680 --> 1:38:25.320 you ensure yourself and how do you make sure that 1:38:25.320 --> 1:38:29.000 that investment, no matter what happens, if there's a tragedy 1:38:29.040 --> 1:38:31.160 of some kind, you are prepared. 1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:31.960 Uh. 1:38:32.120 --> 1:38:33.880 The other thing is you know real quick. I will 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:35.240 say this, So if thank you and you're like, hey, 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:37.400 I can only afford ACV, I get it. But you 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.160 should be more diligent about making sure that the smoke 1:38:40.200 --> 1:38:42.680 detectors are up to date. There's carbon monoxide detectors, that 1:38:43.280 --> 1:38:45.240 you know that the sump pump is working, and you 1:38:45.240 --> 1:38:47.680 put a battery back up in because you're going to 1:38:47.720 --> 1:38:50.280 be out a lot of money if something like that happens. 1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:54.559 Absolutely, here's something I never even thought of either. If 1:38:54.600 --> 1:38:57.080 you have a major upgrade, I'm always talking about, make 1:38:57.120 --> 1:38:59.640 sure that you update your kitchens, your bathrooms. If you 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:03.719 add you're gonna do have an EV charger in the garage. 1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:07.080 Whatever you're gonna do, make sure that your insurance carrier 1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:10.519 knows because if you didn't disclose that you have a 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:14.280 new fifty thousand dollars kitchen, okay, they're just gonna go 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:16.960 on the value of what you know, an old kitchen, 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:19.639 They're not going to give you that upgrade. So when 1:39:19.680 --> 1:39:22.800 you have major upgrades, make sure that you're telling and 1:39:22.880 --> 1:39:26.000 talking to your insurance agent. A lot of people and 1:39:26.360 --> 1:39:29.880 you know, our brother in law used to be my 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:32.840 brother in law. Your brother was an insurance agent for 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:35.240 a long time, and you know we talked to him 1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:39.200 all the time, but you don't usually talk to your 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:42.240 insurance agent. If you talk to your insurance agent once 1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:46.519 a year, that's probably good enough. But at the same time, 1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:48.559 you should be if you haven't talked to your insurance 1:39:48.600 --> 1:39:51.200 agent for five years or more, maybe you need to 1:39:51.200 --> 1:39:53.120 make a phone call. Or if you have no idea 1:39:53.120 --> 1:39:56.519 who your insurance agent is, again, you could be setting 1:39:56.520 --> 1:39:58.960 yourself up because if you have to make a claim 1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:01.640 and you have no not reviewed your policy for a 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:04.840 long time, chances are you are not going to have 1:40:04.880 --> 1:40:08.599 the coverage that you need to really replace what you 1:40:08.680 --> 1:40:11.200 have in your home. So that's really important. 1:40:10.800 --> 1:40:13.720 Okay, gotcha? Bottom line here, what should you do at 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:14.479 least once a year. 1:40:15.160 --> 1:40:17.400 At least once a year, you want to go through 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:20.360 your deck page, the page that says you know how 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.960 much the value is on your home? Are you doing 1:40:23.040 --> 1:40:26.080 replacement cost? What do you have in your home, what 1:40:26.160 --> 1:40:28.879 kind of protections are in your home? How many updates 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:31.599 you've done? So talk to your real estate Yeah, talk 1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:33.479 to your real estate agent. No, talk to your insurance 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:38.040 agent at least once a year and review your policy. 1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:38.920 So you know what you've got. 1:40:38.960 --> 1:40:41.120 And it is important because if you have a and 1:40:41.160 --> 1:40:45.439 we talked about subpump failure, know what you have, know 1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:47.720 what the add ons are, because you know, you may 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:50.040 get all of these documents and I know we're probably 1:40:50.080 --> 1:40:52.639 running against the clock here, but you may be getting 1:40:52.760 --> 1:40:56.679 like piles and piles of documents in the mail. Your 1:40:56.680 --> 1:41:00.479 insurance company is making changes to your policy. And if 1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:02.880 you just say, oh, it's just another it's another it's 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:06.680 junk mail, it's just another bs whatever, pay attention to 1:41:06.720 --> 1:41:09.839 that because they could be changing the way that they're 1:41:10.080 --> 1:41:13.439 doing business, therefore affecting your bottom line. 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:16.160 Gotcha, So make sure you do that. And also the 1:41:16.200 --> 1:41:19.160 documentation thing. You know, get your everyone's got a camera 1:41:19.240 --> 1:41:20.920 on their phone, no excuses. You go in your video 1:41:21.000 --> 1:41:22.880 and then you're probably going to take that and if 1:41:22.880 --> 1:41:24.800 you can get out on the flash drive and store 1:41:24.800 --> 1:41:27.160 it somewhere out of your house or somewhere where if 1:41:27.200 --> 1:41:29.040 God forbid there is a fire or something like that, 1:41:29.400 --> 1:41:32.519 you have access to it at work. Maybe you know 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:34.040 you're going to be able to get into your email 1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:36.080 put it in a cloud. Be the other thing too, 1:41:36.120 --> 1:41:38.960 but you know, and you know we haven't done it yet, 1:41:39.000 --> 1:41:40.800 so or just as guilty. At some point I'm going 1:41:40.880 --> 1:41:43.000 to do that. So maybe next big rainy day I'll 1:41:43.040 --> 1:41:45.280 walk through and document everything. But the other thing too 1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:47.200 is you probably got updated a lot because you are 1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:51.320 always getting stuff and stuff's going out, So it'd probably 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:52.720 save a lot of time, a lot of headache and 1:41:52.720 --> 1:41:55.559 heartache later on. God forbid, something always has happened, especially 1:41:55.560 --> 1:41:57.760 with the rash of fires we've had this year or 1:41:57.760 --> 1:42:01.160 so far. My wife, Michelle Sloanan sales Holmes dot Com 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:03.720 open House show that is via the iHeartRadio app on 1:42:03.760 --> 1:42:06.760 the podcasts as well as on YouTube as well. She's 1:42:06.760 --> 1:42:08.960 a run main flip Remax time all right, love you, 1:42:08.960 --> 1:42:10.920 go go. Why don't you do this? If you really 1:42:10.920 --> 1:42:12.240 want to get in the book club, why don't you 1:42:12.240 --> 1:42:18.200 start reading a book and see how they about the 1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:21.000 whole book club thing. They tell me what I'm supposed 1:42:21.040 --> 1:42:24.240 to read. Come on, come on, man, all right, I'm 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:26.559 glad we're united Fineland. I was sweating it for a second. 1:42:26.720 --> 1:42:28.479 Oh my god, she's gonna get me sign up for 1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:31.120 something else. I don't want to do. My wife, I 1:42:31.120 --> 1:42:34.120 love dearly, but try to avoid because of things like this. 1:42:34.200 --> 1:42:37.439 I'll see you later. You have a great day. Go 1:42:37.479 --> 1:42:39.840 find your phone, go hit my find my phone feature. 1:42:39.840 --> 1:42:41.960 Worst feeling in the world. Right, Willie is on the 1:42:42.000 --> 1:42:44.080 way Next Afternoons on the Home of the Red seven 1:42:44.160 --> 1:42:45.640 hundred w W Cincinnati,