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Speaker 2: at the top sports stories happening across the sports world

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Speaker 2: right now. How about Austin, oh for two from former

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Speaker 2: Patriots Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. Now, Robert Kraft has

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Speaker 2: not been voted in for the Hall of Fame class

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six. I'm really surprising.

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Speaker 3: I am surprised because I thought that he would get

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Speaker 3: including the fact that his team is playing again on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I thought Robert Craft would get in. But what we've

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Speaker 3: these voters were thinking, this really might be the last

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Speaker 3: chance for Roger Craig, for L. C. Greenwood, for Ken Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Do you see it hope that's the case. I say,

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Speaker 2: do you see it as as a good thing for

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Speaker 2: Ken Anderson? Anderson because of this?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean there's five guys and it's been

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Speaker 3: So that obviously would be a good thing. That being said,

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Speaker 3: last year, out of the five finalists, only one of

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Speaker 3: going to get in there. I still think that that

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Speaker 3: Roger Craig and Elsie green would have good cases that

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Speaker 3: I'm sure people across, you know, the different areas of

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Speaker 3: and you're one of the last three, you'll take that.

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Speaker 2: How on the list of just folks that are tough

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Speaker 2: Jason Whitlock on that list? At the bottom? He is

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Speaker 3: I mean, he'd be near the top. Yeah, Mason Whitlock

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Speaker 2: He sends a tweet out today, Roger Craig, Can Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Exclusivity is essential for greatness. Who you leave out stamps

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Speaker 3: My biggest issue with the way people have handled the

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem that I've had with the way

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Speaker 3: And I get where some of those people are coming from. Well,

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Speaker 2: So does this tie in at all to what you

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Speaker 2: expect for Tom Brady? No, I don't either. Brady'll get

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Speaker 2: in I don't know. Yeah, very quickly, Yes, the Pro

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think so many people take this whole thing way

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Speaker 3: too seriously. Like it's they call it the Pro Bowl Games.

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Speaker 3: They have skills competitions, they hang out, they meet fans,

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Speaker 3: they sign autographs, they run around and play flag football,

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Speaker 3: which the NFL is investing a lot of money into

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Speaker 3: flag football. It's going to be an Olympic sport in

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Speaker 3: path forward for or the like the idea of flag football.

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Speaker 3: I heard Steve Young talking about this earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: where he's like, if we keep investing in flag football

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Speaker 3: and the competition and building that up, eventually the players

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Speaker 2: I like it a lot. I don't take it that serious.

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Speaker 3: The days of those guys in full pads hitting each

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Speaker 3: other and being out in Hawaii, that's over. The NFL

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Speaker 3: screwed it up by trying to monetize it. But now

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Speaker 3: this is what it is, and people take it way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it drives me nuts. I just have fun.

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Speaker 3: So the personalities of the players, they're all one spot

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Speaker 2: That is what tonight is again, flag football skill competitions,

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Speaker 2: they do. Agreed, right, You get, like you said, you

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Speaker 2: get to see personality, You get to see how they operate,

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Speaker 2: and it just peels back the curtain of what is

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals, by the way, have done a

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Speaker 3: guys who are there. T Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: I think Burrow like may have just gotten there. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's going to be around.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's going to play tonight. But like even

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Speaker 3: to be able to experience that all together. And like

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Speaker 2: I think it's cool.

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Speaker 3: And people keep clowning it because now there's reports coming

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Speaker 3: out that Justin Fields was asked to participate and he declined.

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Speaker 3: Stroud was asked to participate and he declined. You know

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Speaker 3: being a representative of the Green Bay Packers. He's not

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Speaker 3: going to participate in anything. Yeah, but Michael Parsons is there.

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Speaker 3: Goes a long way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Other NFL news, Matt and Naggy is going to be

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Speaker 2: this Domataw Peco defensive line coach for the Steelers. That

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Speaker 2: makes me sick to my stuff. I love Peco. That

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Speaker 3: It's going to be difficult to see Domatah in Steeler gear, agreed,

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Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifteen kids. Yes, so yep, money

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Speaker 2: All over them.

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Speaker 2: out locally in the state of Ohio. Austin. Lawmakers in

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Speaker 2: Ohio are trying to block middle and high school students

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Speaker 2: from making money off their name, image, and likeness. This

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Speaker 2: has been something that Ohio student athletes in high school

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Speaker 2: something that legislation is trying to undo so that you

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Speaker 2: can pull back on high school athletes and even to

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Speaker 3: this whole. I think it's State Rep. Adam Byrd. Yes,

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Speaker 3: the state of Ohio is proposing legislation to end NIL

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Speaker 3: in high schools. My question is how much is this

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Speaker 3: Junior high school sports. How much money are there? Is

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Speaker 3: there any data that the State Rep Can provide that

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Speaker 3: and it's not amateurism anymore. How much does it really

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Speaker 3: affect high school sports?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And you know people want to talk about And by

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Speaker 3: the way, there are rules in the current NIL thing

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Speaker 3: with the OHSAA. Let's say, you can't wear your team's uniform,

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Speaker 3: good basketball player at Reading high school can't put on

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Speaker 3: Got the good work in that nasty old pay Indiana

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Speaker 2: And walk away. They make wipes for that. He was

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Speaker 2: Getting high in the air throwing it down. Okay, Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 2: he still dunks. Apparently he still plays. Who's he played

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Speaker 3: Lance showed up and Lance, yeah, this show is you know,

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Speaker 2: out throughout the glasses. Everyone's looking in here like what

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Speaker 2: are these folks doing? What do we know about the

435
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Speaker 2: should go crash? It just go dead air? Yeah? What

436
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Speaker 2: do we know about the latest Reds TV deal? Is

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Speaker 2: it Reds dot TV?

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Speaker 3: They're calling it Reds dot TV. Okay, let me just

439
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Speaker 3: say this before we get started. You can listen to

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Speaker 3: every single Reds game on the iHeartRadio APD on seven

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Speaker 3: hundred w LW, thanks to our good friends at iHeartMedia

442
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Speaker 3: and of course the Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: But one of my favorite things is to have the

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Speaker 2: game on but the audio off, yes, and have WLW

445
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Speaker 2: pulled out.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I hope that one of the cool things you can

448
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Speaker 3: do with like Apple TV broadcasts and some of the

449
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Speaker 3: others is you can think all that listen to the

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Speaker 3: radio broadcast while you watch. I hope they do that

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Speaker 3: with Reds dot TV. But it's called Reds dot TV

452
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Speaker 3: and basically the Reds announce yesterday that Major League Baseball

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Speaker 3: will produce and distribute all the local Reds game broadcasts

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Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty sixth season, and under this new agreement,

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Speaker 3: fans in the team's home television territory will be able

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Speaker 3: to watch all locally distributed Reds games via cable and

457
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Speaker 3: satellite providers, or you can digitally stream Reds dot tv

458
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Speaker 3: without blackouts. So Thereds dot TV subscriptions will be available

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Speaker 3: in February through MLB dot Com or the MLB app

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Speaker 3: and the information including specific channels and all that will

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Speaker 3: be announced at a later date. But the Red's announced

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Speaker 3: officially yesterday that it is going to be distributed by

463
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. So the biggest difference there, to my understanding,

464
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Speaker 3: it's it's basically gonna be the exact same other than

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be FanDuel branded. We'll have a different

466
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Speaker 3: graphics package, the people will all be the same. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be really familiar. It's just gonna look a little

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Speaker 3: bit different, and how you get to it is gonna

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Speaker 3: be a little bit different, I will say. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's what's interesting about this is like the Atlanta Braves,

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Speaker 3: for example, they're one of those teams that did not

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Speaker 3: renew with Main Street as well. They had their games

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Speaker 3: on FanDuel Sports down South. They're coming up with their

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Speaker 3: building their own RSN.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: The Mets have this with Sports New York or Sports

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Speaker 3: Net New York. The Yankees have this with Yes Network.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers have this, other teams have it, so the

479
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Speaker 3: Braves are now building their own regional sportsnet. This is

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Speaker 3: my biggest question about the future of Major League Baseball

481
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Speaker 3: when it comes to revenue sharing, is if there is

482
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Speaker 3: at some point everything under one roof and you can

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Speaker 3: evenly distribute that money for not just the playoffs like

484
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Speaker 3: it is now, but for everything. Now a team like

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers of the Mets to the Yankees, they won't

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Speaker 3: want anything to do with.

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Speaker 2: Those they make.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to share that money with other teams.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how feasible it is, but the

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Speaker 3: fact that this keeps happening would suggest eventually major League Baseball,

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Speaker 3: whether it's with a salary cap, with a salary floor,

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Speaker 3: or who knows, in these negotiations with the Players Association,

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Speaker 3: maybe for the betterment of baseball down the road, there's

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Speaker 3: some sort of overarching television situation that makes games easier

495
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Speaker 3: to see, easier to be distributed, easier to find, and

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Speaker 3: makes money and puts money in the pockets of all

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Speaker 3: the teams.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Speaking of trying to put money in pockets, how

499
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Speaker 2: about former Red Jamer Candelario Jamer to the Angels oh,

500
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Speaker 2: it's just a minor league deal with an MLB camp invite.

501
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Speaker 2: He gets about eight hundred grand if he makes the majors.

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Speaker 2: You want to know if it's gone from bad to

503
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Speaker 2: worst for for Jamer? Last year he was uh, he

504
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Speaker 2: was let go by the Reds, signed a deal with

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Speaker 2: the Yankees, but played at sixty one games with their

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Speaker 2: Triple A team where he slashed two oh three, two

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Speaker 2: eighty nine, three fifty seven. That's not good man, No,

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Speaker 2: so then, so then he picked himself back up and said,

509
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go play in the Dominican Winner League, but

510
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Speaker 2: get myself right. Played thirty three games there. He slashed

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight, two sixty nine and three thirty three

512
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Speaker 2: with ten extra base hits and forty strikeouts. Didn't his

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Speaker 2: team make it to like the World Series down there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, pretty sure there was. His numbers didn't

515
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Speaker 2: go well. There's a big.

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Speaker 3: Playoff game recently and there was a few Reds guys

517
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Speaker 3: in it, and Jamer was like batting seventh and playing

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Speaker 3: third base for one of the teams.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, the au Heno Suarez thing, the

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Speaker 3: Reds have not made an official announcement, but they did

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Speaker 3: just tweet five minutes ago good vibes only.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So I would.

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Speaker 3: Expect to maybe an official announcement from the ball club.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Mets have been very active in all

526
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Speaker 2: of this. A former Mets general manager now an MLB insider,

527
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Speaker 2: Steve Phillips, said this of the Suarez deal, It's a

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Speaker 2: great signing for the Reds. They needed more offense, they

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Speaker 2: needed more thunder, and they needed a veteran for Terry

530
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Speaker 2: Francona for the Cincinnati Reds. This is a good signing Thunder.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that we glazed over yesterday,

532
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Speaker 2: and we talked about what Suarez brings as a bat,

533
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Speaker 2: and we talked about where he would fit into the lineup,

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Speaker 2: we kind of grazed over the part about Suarez as

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Speaker 2: a leader. If you think about the conversations we had

536
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Speaker 2: last year going into the season, one of my questions

537
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Speaker 2: off was who's the leader or who are the leaders

538
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Speaker 2: on this team? And I think pitchers are a little

539
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: bit more difficult, especially starters, because they get to go

540
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Speaker 2: won every five games. So a lot of people point

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Speaker 2: to Tyler Stevenson and on a team full of so

542
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Speaker 2: many young guys. You know, who's ready to take the

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Speaker 2: next step? I think is always a great question. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that on top of just what it

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Speaker 2: is added to this team from a lineup point of view,

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Speaker 2: I do think there is an added value in Suarez

547
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Speaker 2: in the locker room, in the clubhouse, on the bench

548
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Speaker 2: for these guys as well. I don't think that can

549
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Speaker 2: be overlooked enough with how important. I mean, I've talked

550
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Speaker 2: for years about the team where Miguel Cairo and Scott Roland,

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Speaker 2: We're not at the pinnacle of their career, they were

552
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: kind of on the back stretch, but it just felt vital,

553
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Speaker 2: and so many players on those teams talked about having

554
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Speaker 2: Rolling and Cairo in the clubhouse on a daily basis

555
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: and how much time, how much that helped them. I

556
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Speaker 2: think it's hard to overlook what that can mean for

557
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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, and I think they crossed another one

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Speaker 2: off the list by bringing back EU Honeyosuarez. So what

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00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: have they done the offseason? I think we both agree, Austin,

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00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: they've upgraded the bullpen and they added a power back,

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Speaker 2: two things that they needed to do. And I think

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Speaker 2: you could make the argument that they they have much

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Speaker 2: better depth than they had last year.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say the depth of the starting pitching

565
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: is better, especially with Brandon Williamson's going to be back.

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Speaker 3: Rhet louder is going to be back. You feel better

567
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: about those guys. Connor Phillips and that situation. The depth

568
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: of the infield is clearly an issue, and I think

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Speaker 3: will maybe get addressed. I mean, I don't think Suarez

570
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Speaker 3: fixes that, and maybe, you know, we'll see what happens

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Speaker 3: over the course of spring training. But overall, I think

572
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: they are better offensively and deeper on the mound, and

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Speaker 3: that can be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: What would you, knowing where they are now, what would

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Speaker 2: you give them as a great for the offseason? C plus? Okay,

576
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: see I was kind of a A B. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think a a Bonafi bat would have put them

578
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: in an A. But like again, their bullpen's better. They

579
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Speaker 2: added a bat who hit forty nine home runs last year,

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Speaker 2: and the depth is better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, The issues with the infield depth and a bunch

582
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: of guys that play the same position kind of knock

583
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: it down a peg for me. The embarrassment of the

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Speaker 3: Schwarber situation, I once makes me want to give them

585
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: an f and you know, I just don't trust them. Yeah,

586
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: and so for that reason, I get that. But I'm

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Speaker 3: glad they I'm glad they've changed. I can acknowledge that

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00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: they changed something about their plan, and I'm appreciative that

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Speaker 3: they did.

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Speaker 2: I hope it works. Okay, I'm with you. We'll take

591
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Speaker 2: a break, we'll come back more on the Reds and

592
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Speaker 2: your phone calls five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: It happens next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Your front row seat to the fiercest debates in sports.

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Speaker 1: Moegger Today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty a service of Skyline Chile.

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Speaker 2: On the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station, Austin. We are fifty one days away from

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Speaker 2: Red's Baseball fifty one. Yesterday we brought up some of

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Speaker 2: the former players of this organization that dawned the great

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Speaker 2: number fifty two, Kyle Farmer, Tony sin Grani and so

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Speaker 2: many others. Revers, San Martin, zach Ltel and his time

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Speaker 2: here with the ball club. If you look at Reds

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00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: that have worn number fifty one in their career, Austin,

606
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Speaker 2: there's a long list of them. Many different players have

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Speaker 2: worn number fifty one. Does a name stand out to

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Speaker 2: you above the rest?

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Speaker 3: No, because I haven't looked at the list yet. So

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Speaker 3: the first one that comes to mind is Graham Ashcraft

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Speaker 3: from a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: My thought was Sean Marshall.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Sean Marshall's dead to me because

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Speaker 3: they tried to get them on the show. Text me back.

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Speaker 3: You guys apparently used to fish together. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: couldn't remember if he was fifty or fifty one. Fifty

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Speaker 3: one you're saying he's fifty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ok.

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Speaker 2: Some of the other names that stood out.

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Speaker 3: Now, I remember Rule five Drafts election, Jared Burton, Okay,

622
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: he could spin it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: What about Big Jonathan Broxton?

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Speaker 3: That's true. You remember Jonathan Broxton? Yeah, he played for

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00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: a couple of years.

626
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Speaker 2: And what he was able to do for the Red

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Speaker 2: Legs Man six four, two eighty five, Yeah, the Big Man,

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Speaker 2: And of course Brady Singer.

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Speaker 3: What about nineteen thirty eight Jimmy Outlaw. Wow, Well, you

630
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Speaker 3: know about Jim Outlaw.

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Speaker 2: Now nineteen thirty eight. To me, I thought of Don

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Speaker 2: Lang of course, the they both were number fifty one

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Speaker 2: in the thirty eight season.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Jimmy Outlaw only played in four games in nineteen

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Speaker 3: thirty eight for the Red.

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe they were tired the number for a

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Speaker 2: time being, because no one from nineteen thirty nine to

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty three wore the number fifty one. Interesting, so

639
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: something to be said there. But I think we go

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Speaker 2: with who's the best red on that list that that

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Speaker 2: has worn fifty one?

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you've got guys like Lis alvartol Bonia,

643
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: Jeff Austin, Eddie Priest, who.

644
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Had the best Reds career of Graham Ashcraft.

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Speaker 3: It's probably Graham Ashcraft, Yeah, Jared Burton, It's probably not

646
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: Kyle Crockett. I mean, with a good year this year,

647
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Speaker 3: Brady Singer might take the cake.

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Speaker 2: They could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where the bar set. And now fifty tomorrow

650
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Speaker 3: gets interesting. Yeah, because there's some legends on that list. Yep,

651
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: we have a hard time going through this tomorrow. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: fifty one, I'm gonna give it to Graham Ashcraft. Okay,

653
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Speaker 3: but fifty one days away now he's number he's number

654
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Speaker 3: twenty three. Now, yeah, Jordan, he'll never be the best

655
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: red to wear number twenty three because Jason LaRue exists.

656
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.

657
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Speaker 3: And Dennis Phipps, who I once saw d Phipps. I

658
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: once saw him rob a home run at a Dayton

659
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: Dragons game, one of the greatest best catches I've.

660
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: Ever seen, and that was it. You're like, that's my guy.

661
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dennis Phipps. Dude can play d Phipps. You can't

662
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 3: forget the glue. Doug Flynn. I'm getting ahead of myself.

663
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go yet, don't go ahead yet. Sorry, all right,

664
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Lynch has to say, le's take a phone caller too.

665
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: What's up, Johnny, Tony Austin, it's a minute, it has

666
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Speaker 2: How are you doing well?

667
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: I just got over the plague, had a fever Friday

668
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: and Saturday was not fun. Do not recommend. But other

669
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: than that, I'm fine. I mean, I don't know why

670
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 4: I don't rise your husband.

671
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: Those are the things that keep you up at night,

672
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: right now?

673
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony? Do you like Getta?

674
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 5: No?

675
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: Who was the last time you had Getta?

676
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: Years ago? My my, my father was known for making

677
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: very good breakfast, like he does a nice gravy bulldog gravy.

678
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: He calls it sausage links biscuits at the whole nine

679
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: yards and he'll often start chopping up that geta on

680
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: the griddle, and uh, I've had it before, but I

681
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: maybe I doubt I'll have it again.

682
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: All Right, I want to propose something to Tony, and

683
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: the amount of money is whatever you want.

684
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: So let's just say, okay.

685
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: Let's just say something says, Hey, Tony, I'll pay you

686
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: X amount of money to sit down at a table

687
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: and we're gonna blindfold you and we're gonna give you

688
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: certain food items ooh and dishes, and you're not gonna

689
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: know what they are, and you're not gonna have any freaconceptions.

690
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: You're just gonna taste them and you're gonna scale them

691
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: on a one to ten on How you like that?

692
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: Would you do that?

693
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: See? That's dangerous because like if if it's like I'm

694
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: trying get a or I'm trying jerky or something like that,

695
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: it's one thing. But if someone throws like a sardine

696
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: on the plate or something like that, then we're gonna

697
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: have an issue.

698
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: No, I would honestly put very common food that most

699
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: people like them. Okay, you don't like them?

700
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: I know I would be intrigued by that.

701
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: Do you like beef strogan off? Tony, huh the stroganoff?

702
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.

703
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: That is Oh my gosh, put a pull out there often?

704
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: Do you know beat strogan off? There? You're gonna have

705
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 4: ninety five for some people?

706
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 2: Say yes, there's always there's a lot of snow and ready,

707
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that your kids had the school off

708
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: to day.

709
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: I was probably very frustrated.

710
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's tough.

711
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: It has been tough. Awesome question for you.

712
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Yes.

713
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: Do you like Brussels sprouts?

714
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.

715
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: Do you like roasted Brussels sprouts?

716
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.

717
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 4: Would you eat boiled Brussels sprouts?

718
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? I'd try it?

719
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: Oh good lord, you are from Cindy. Okay, that wasn't

720
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: an insult, by the way, I was just freaving a point.

721
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, well try I have a better.

722
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: Feel of what you two like. Who's why now, before

723
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: I get off this phone, you haven't talked to me

724
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: a while. Give me some mere time. I would like

725
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: to know this. This is a bangles question. For both

726
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: of you if you right now are sitting at your

727
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: desk in it, I don't know. Right before the draft,

728
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: two days before the draft, and all the Bengals have

729
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: done in free agencies it has signed a Bobby Wagner

730
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: is your linebacker and another veteran safety and that's all

731
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: they've really done in free agency outside of, like, you know,

732
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: a depth piece somewhere else.

733
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: How do you feel disaster? I feel terrible. I feel

734
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: it was a disaster. Bobby Wagner's thirty five. I wouldn't be.

735
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think it's a disaster, but I would think

736
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: they're not on pace to reach their goals.

737
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: So do you think you have justification to go right

738
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 4: to do COVID office and say, hey man, you said

739
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: the defense wasn't good enough and you had no leaders?

740
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: What the hell is this?

741
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

742
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: I would especially refer to his quote about past rush

743
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: being king and it not being a drafty.

744
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my biggest issue.

745
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: Ah, I like that. I like that a lot. So

746
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: here's my thinky. I think they gotta do much more. Obviously,

747
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: Tony has you much more than that, but as a minimum,

748
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: they need to sign five new defensive players. Five minimum

749
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: of five. If I see less than five, I'm worried thoughts.

750
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm in that Does that include draft picks?

751
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: So you're just talking free agents?

752
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: No free agency.

753
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: They have the money to spend, and they have gaping

754
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: holes in so many places. And that's not even talking

755
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: about the free agents that they should have already signed.

756
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned in Dalton Reisner, that deal that should

757
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: have that should easily equate for one of those deals.

758
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: You need another linebacker, you need multiple pieces on the

759
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. I think four or five

760
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: would be necessary. If if you are trying to to

761
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: take this thing and turn it around and get back

762
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl, WHI should be the goal.

763
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: I agree. Now I'm gonna top a little Reds here

764
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 4: for a second. Marcus will love me for this. Don

765
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 4: he never talked about the Reds. If you want to

766
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: ask me who my favorite Reds player is of all time,

767
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: it's Ken Griffey Jr. But number two, maybe three is Flores.

768
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: So the fact that he's coming back, I have I

769
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: think a picture somewhere I wrote swore and name on

770
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: my chef. Took my shirt off at a game because

771
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: every time that man went up to bat like it

772
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: was the most exciting thing ever because like, I don't know,

773
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: he was in or mis right, either was home run

774
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: or not. So I actually think this is a great

775
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: move by the reds now it's the age. Is he watched?

776
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think it's good for the

777
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: fan base of a familiar name that's a good hitter,

778
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: it's a good bat. I just don't think they've done enough.

779
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: They need to get another bat they have to do.

780
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: You agree, Yeah, I think they're still offensively challenged. I

781
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: don't think he fixes all their issues. So yeah, I

782
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: mean I don't know that they're gonna to get is

783
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: another starter?

784
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

785
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it because they don't have the payroll to

786
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: get another starter?

787
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: Probably not anymore. I mean they've extended it for him,

788
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't assume that they'll keep extending it.

789
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the hesitation?

790
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't at this point, I don't know one.

791
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's that many names left out

792
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: there that could make that type of splash impact for you,

793
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: it would be a depth that would be a depth piece.

794
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: At this point. I mean, Suarez was easily the best

795
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: Bat left on the market and they went and got him.

796
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's that many names that you

797
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: would really sell yourself on if they made a deal today, Like,

798
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: oh you tell, Okay, that's that's a good depth piece.

799
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: I don't think at this point in the offseason you're

800
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna find anyone that's contributing on a major basis for him.

801
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: Well, would you feel better as a fan if they

802
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: got two or three depth pieces and you have all

803
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: the depth Like, you're just showing that you care. That's

804
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: what I'm asking for, is the urgency is showing that

805
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: you care. Same with a Bagels. Why adult Rice, you're

806
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: not signed? Why do I want four or five free agents?

807
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: I just want to see that you understood that last

808
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 4: year was a failure and that this year needs to

809
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: be improvement.

810
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I think that's fair.

811
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: I think by the red standards that would qualify this

812
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: offseason would qualify for that. I don't think that it's enough,

813
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: but by their standards, it probably does qualify for that.

814
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, well, Tony, if it snows again, what we'll

815
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: do is, well we'll bring your kids in the studio.

816
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: That'd be great ill er them for you. Why you

817
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: do your show. I'll be sober. Don't worry. I'll be sober.

818
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: I have what twenty nieces and nephews at this point,

819
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: so it's gonna it's gonna be fine. But what we

820
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: should do is bring your kid to work day for

821
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: everybody in the studio.

822
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that would work well for

823
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: the for the folks around time, I'm fine with that.

824
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: I'll stick him in there with Austin. Then that's fine.

825
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm a great Okay, I'll.

826
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 4: Produce the show. You take care of the kids.

827
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be fine. It's not that hard.

828
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: Can you imagine that hard? Yes?

829
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: That or it's not rocket science. Yeah, it's not that hard.

830
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: That's it. Thanks Johnny. Thanks Johnny. Say you know, if

831
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: I think Suarez in the postseason is about the swars

832
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: you're going to get at this point in his career,

833
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: I was trying to think ten hits, three home runs,

834
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: eight RBIs about at two thirteen. Yeah, it's kind of

835
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: who is going to be. I would probably be pretty

836
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: happy with that. Yes, like that, that is who Suarez

837
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: I is going to be.

838
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: The last time I saw Suarez play for the Reds

839
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: in person, I'm ninety nine percent. Sure, I booed him

840
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: mercilessly when he got called up to the plate, wow,

841
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: because he couldn't hit. Okay, by the way, while we're

842
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: talking to Johnny, the Reds made it official nice au

843
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: Haneo Suarez has signed a one year major league contract

844
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: with a mutual option for twenty twenty seven. In a

845
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: corresponding move, Tony, the Reds have designated for assignment catcher

846
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: Ben Rourtvett he is no longer with us, and the

847
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: Reds also posted a graphic saying welcome back Geno. Good

848
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: vibes only, and in the graphic it shows that you

849
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: Hanio Suarez wearing number twenty eight. Come on, Suarez A

850
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: you Hanio now returns official.

851
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: One other point to Johnny's question about depth with the

852
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Suarez signing, don't you look and say, Okay, Dane Myers

853
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: JJ bledeh.

854
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: Is that better depth than what they had last year?

855
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's any different. I mean, but

856
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: it's not like Jake Frayley. Yeah, I mean, it's just

857
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 3: there's the same.

858
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: Right.

859
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: There were times last year where the options they had

860
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: on the bench were not great. Yeah, that's better than

861
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: it was last year. At least to this point. Jake Frayley,

862
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: by the way, reuniting with Gavin Lux in Tampa. Rake

863
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: Frayley a break, what to do, A to and go

864
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: when we come back, and then get to Joe Danaman.

865
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: We'll take more phone calls in our number three on

866
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline Chili.

867
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, time.

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Speaker 5: Bomb the Bottle.

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