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Speaker 1: About Standard Heating and Air.

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Speaker 2: Love you Standard Heating and Air for bringing us Ben Gesling.

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Speaker 2: On a weekly basis, columnists Excuse Me covers the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: You got podcasts, we got newsletters, we got all kinds

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Speaker 2: of bits. And I know that you're on the grind

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Speaker 2: into the by just like everybody else. Everyone trying to

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Speaker 2: get healthy, everyone trying to feel one out of the

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Speaker 2: break to face Philly, but maybe going backwards for a

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Speaker 2: moment to move forward getting the w in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 2: maybe your perspective in terms of what you heard from

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Speaker 2: the head coach. We had talked about it earlier, Ben,

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Speaker 2: and I think I got a talk back on it.

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Speaker 2: Just listening to Kevin O'Connell speak through kind of the

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Speaker 2: game itself, good to get good to get a win.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like a.

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Speaker 2: Guy who had to grind his way through maybe one

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Speaker 2: of the more difficult coaching performances of his time in Minnesota. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: combined with man I want to go home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, I'm here. Can we just go home? Please?

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Speaker 1: Did you feel similar respects of that speech?

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Speaker 3: I did, first of all, though, shout out Brett Blakemore

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Speaker 3: for bringing me with the Prince the old Prince. Let's work.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was very nicely done. Nice to throw

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Speaker 3: back there.

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Speaker 1: Of course it was my idea. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was very well done. I like it. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: did think Kevin O'Connell was ready to go home. There was.

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Speaker 1: He made a comment in his.

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Speaker 3: Press conference I think Friday he said something about two

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Speaker 3: more sleeps. But who's counting which the phrase two more sleeps.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said this to me over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: It's like you could tell he's a dad of four kids,

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Speaker 3: because that's like a phrase you use with your kids,

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Speaker 3: like only one more sleep till we go to Disney

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Speaker 3: World or something.

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Speaker 1: That phrase.

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Speaker 3: And then he said it in his post game victory

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Speaker 3: speech too, no more sleep, still we go home. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I think he was ready to be in his own bed.

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Speaker 3: Players were ready to go home.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: This is not like a slight to the experience, not

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Speaker 3: a slight to the cities that they were in. But

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Speaker 3: that is such a long time to be gone and

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Speaker 3: to uproot your entire operation. I mean, NFL teams are

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Speaker 3: so regimented, so built on routine that when you take

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Speaker 3: the whole thing and move it as significantly as.

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Speaker 1: They did it. It is.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of disruption for a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: and I think you could see by the end of

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Speaker 3: that stretch they were feeling it and ready to be done.

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Speaker 3: Even if they you know, I think that type of

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Speaker 3: thing is going to come back again. I'll be very

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Speaker 3: curious to hear kind of what the conversations are what

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Speaker 3: the NFL looks at from this process, because you could

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Speaker 3: do it again, but I think you'd have to have

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Speaker 3: a team that is willing to sign up for it.

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Speaker 3: Knowing that the Vikings, who are as enthusiastic as they

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Speaker 3: get about international travel. Yeah, you could see it by

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Speaker 3: the end that they were just I think Jonathan Grenard

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Speaker 3: said it after the game on Sunday that like, we're

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Speaker 3: ready to go, We're ready to be back home and

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's even kind of that element because

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars have played consecutive games in the London area

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Speaker 2: or in the UK before, but they but there wasn't

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Speaker 2: even the you know, it seems because it's a shorter flight.

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Speaker 2: I suppose you're all the same, even the difference of

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Speaker 2: having to set up shop in Dublin, then pick up everything,

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Speaker 2: extended time that is and it sounds like it was

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Speaker 2: a massive difference operationally and just putting everything together into

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a funny thing about it is we

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Speaker 3: we got a chance to talk to a lot of

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Speaker 3: the people doing the behind the scenes work and names

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Speaker 3: think Kevin O'Connell said it yesterday. You know, people like

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Speaker 3: Paul Martin who put on a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 3: where it's okay, everything has to get shipped into Dublin,

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Speaker 3: which is in the EU, then you have to ship

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Speaker 3: and has different laws, and there have to be basically

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Speaker 3: two different ferries that go over with different things and

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Speaker 3: I don't care, just give me the football game, but

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Speaker 3: this type of a setting, This was pretty much unprecedented

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Speaker 3: type stuff. I mean when they brought in Matt Well,

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Speaker 3: practice squad. They have to find somebody that has a passport,

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Speaker 3: they have to find somebody that can get over to

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Speaker 3: because they don't have that yet. So that level of

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Speaker 3: detail is what this took. And I think the fact

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Speaker 3: was what make it what made it so much more

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Speaker 3: difficult than what the Jaguars would do. Because the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: at this point have gone there enough that I think

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Speaker 3: they probably have some of this down to science. I

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Speaker 3: think the Vikings probably have a lot of this into

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Speaker 3: something of a routine when you go to London, only

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Speaker 3: because they've been there so much. But the Dublin to

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Speaker 3: manpower and a lot of time for them to pull

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Speaker 3: it off. And I think you'd have certain teams that

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Speaker 3: would look at that and say, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure we want to take that on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as we go, as we go into the bye week,

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Speaker 2: you go you split one in one tough loss to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, he handle Stefanski's Browns coach is ready to

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Speaker 2: come home.

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Speaker 1: Coach had to grind from a.

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Speaker 2: Coaching perspective, But into the bye I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you were listening as you came in, just kind of

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Speaker 1: Of a JJ McCarthy related conversation.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get more in depth in the quarterback specifically,

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Speaker 2: but as you're covering the team and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: turn the corner on the by, eventually it's full speed

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Speaker 2: ahead to the Eagles starting next week. When you look

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Speaker 2: angles can I find? I'm kind of in an I

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Speaker 2: don't know period with the team because in one sense,

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Speaker 2: mean pro football focus isn't going to be very nice

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Speaker 2: to them. But in the end, I think everyone's walking

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Speaker 2: away going man, they put Carson in the spot to

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Speaker 2: be successful the cardon crash, but then moving forward, what

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Speaker 2: does that look like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The rookie's got to come back with

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Speaker 2: What's the snap count situation out of the by with

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Speaker 2: with derisaw Brandell or Jurgens at center, now that Kelly

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Speaker 2: right tackle in Brian O'Neil so in a sense I

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Speaker 2: don't know, and then defensively Van Ginkel in the neck

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Looks like people are running right at

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Speaker 2: Dallas Turner and they're having success with it. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about hard Grave and Allen out of the break.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I meant when it just kind of

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Speaker 2: overall view, I'm trying to find a direction with this thing.

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Speaker 1: What do I know about my team? Through five?

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Speaker 2: I know they're three and two, and I know that

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Speaker 2: Carson has a warrior in there. He's playing with the

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Speaker 2: of the Steelers game, and he's put this team in

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Speaker 2: spots to be successful. I know that Addison looks terrific

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Speaker 2: when he's on the field, except when he doesn't go

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Speaker 2: to freaking walk throughs. I don't know how you are

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Speaker 2: in a countryside manner, kind of in a captive environment

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Speaker 2: and don't make it to a walkthrough. But different conversation

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Speaker 2: in a different moment, but I'm just still feeling it's

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Speaker 2: like I don't know what I have in my favorite team.

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Speaker 1: Where do you sit?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a fair read on it because there

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Speaker 3: are so many key members of this thing whose health

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Speaker 3: is still a question. I mean, Blake Cashman will come

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Speaker 3: back here, but Andrew van Ginkel, you know, that whole

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Speaker 3: thing with the neck, I think is worth continuing to

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Speaker 3: watch pretty closely because they are different with him on

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Speaker 3: the field. I just I think everything they do is

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Speaker 3: many different things he does that you just can't replace.

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Speaker 1: I mean that sense of what a team is doing.

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Speaker 3: You see the number of times, I mean, we know

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Speaker 3: about the pick sixes, but there have been five or

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Speaker 3: six other times by this point that he's almost done

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Speaker 3: the same thing, and you just don't replace that level

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Speaker 3: of know how with players like that that's just unique

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Speaker 3: to those players. So whether it's Cashman, Van Ginkel, Brian O'Neil,

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Speaker 3: I think you go down that list, and then you

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Speaker 3: ask the questions about the defensive tackles because they've gotten

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Speaker 3: run on a lot, and some of it's the front,

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Speaker 3: some of that's the linebackers, some of that people jump

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Speaker 3: in gas, all those kinds of things. But until they

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Speaker 3: the Lions, the Ravens, I mean, the Chargers have running

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Speaker 3: back questions now with Lamar and Hampton out, but they

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Speaker 3: want to run the ball as well, So you have

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Speaker 3: to show that you can get that thing under control,

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Speaker 3: and then what the line looks like with who's the center,

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Speaker 3: When does Donova Jackson come back?

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Speaker 1: When does Brian O'Neil come back. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: so many questions.

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Speaker 3: We haven't even mentioned the big one with the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 3: I think figuring all of this out and saying I

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Speaker 3: don't know is very fair. I mean, Kevin O'Connell said

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Speaker 3: it that trying to figure out the identity of this

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Speaker 3: team is still very much a work in progress, in

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Speaker 3: part because they've had so many weeks where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: who do we have now? And this you have players

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Speaker 3: kind of coming back and leaving, almost like ships passing

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Speaker 3: in the night. Pardon the Dublin London pun there. But

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Speaker 3: it's hard to get an identity when you're playing that

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Speaker 3: they have to go, you know, switching tackles during the

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Speaker 3: game on Sunday with justin School and Walter Ross switching sides.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to get an identity when you're living that way.

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Speaker 3: And I think getting healthy is a big piece of that.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of work that this team still

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Speaker 3: has to do of what can we hang our hat

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Speaker 3: on and how do.

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Speaker 1: We want to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Saquon is looming, Yes he is, so we don't

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Speaker 2: have to worry about that until Monday.

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Speaker 1: That's true. It's the byew it's the bye week, you

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Speaker 1: know you.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure the rest of it out later.

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Speaker 3: But I do know that some of the dynamics they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the draft picks matter, they do, They matter

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Speaker 1: Really, this is a roster built to win.

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Speaker 2: Now there have been roster specific questions and how maybe

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Speaker 2: about what is looming around the corner in future years

438
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: in regardle of money allocations.

439
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: This team team had a lot of cash, Ben, but

440
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: it's going.

441
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 2: To go away real quick, and what are they replacing

442
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: it with the draft picks matter. We talked about that,

443
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: but through five games and I know health plays into this,

444
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: so feel free to just be like, I can't answer

445
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: that right now. Let's move on and we will has

446
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 2: your perception again the theme over the course of the season,

447
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: this is a roster that's built to win, now, yeah,

448
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 2: versus in some ways it feels like it's a veteran

449
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: laden roster because we.

450
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: Haven't drafted well enough. But again, you know, putting.

451
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: All of that together, has your perception of what this

452
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 2: team potentially could be?

453
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: Has it changed through five games? Boy?

454
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Speaker 3: The phrase I don't know is boring radio, but it's

455
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: kind of we were talking about last segment. It's kind

456
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 3: of where I go because there's just so many things

457
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: we haven't seen yet. I mean, they they're preferred five linemen.

458
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't think I've played a snap together yet. No,

459
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: they have not, from Darri Saw to Jackson to Kelly,

460
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: to Fries to O'Neill. So you have that, You've had

461
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: the Blake Cashman injury, You've had Ben Kinkel, you know

462
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy of course being injured. You haven't had Addison

463
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: and Jefferson on the field with McCarthy yet. You know,

464
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: there's just this, Yeah, there's just been this, Like like

465
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: I said last segment, shifts passing in the night kind

466
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 3: of thing where one thing, one person comes in, one

467
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 3: person leaves, and it's really hard to sit here and say, Okay,

468
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 3: they're they're going to be this is the floor, this

469
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: is the ceiling, because you just haven't seen what they

470
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,479
Speaker 3: intended it to be yet. I mean, Aaron Jones, it's

471
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: the other one that it's like, I know, there's another

472
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: guy that's injured. Aaron Jones would be another one on

473
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: that list. So you know, the three and two they

474
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: lose to the Falcons team that they couldn't stop the run,

475
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: they lose to a Steelers team that changed the game

476
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: by running the ball in the fourth quarter. I think

477
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: that is a big question I have, especially with the

478
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: schedule coming out of the BUI, like we mentioned, but

479
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 3: they still if you get healthy, let's get healthy. And

480
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: the NFC is wide open enough. I you know, I'm

481
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 3: not sitting here saying like, hey, it's San Francisco or

482
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: Santa Clara, because it's not San Francisco, Santa Clara or bust.

483
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 3: But the NFC is enough of a muddle that could

484
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: they get things figured out and be in the mix.

485
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think job one is win a playoff

486
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: game for the first time since twenty nineteen. I mean,

487
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: that's that is a big priority. So are they incapable

488
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: of that. I wouldn't say that. I mean, I think

489
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: they get healthy and get things figured out, they could

490
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: make a a at least a two round appearance in

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs and go from there.

492
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to hard to know where this is going

493
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: to go.

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: But I just think there are so many pieces to

495
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: this that still have to get put in their right

496
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: spots that it'll be a little easier to figure that

497
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: out once they have that. Now, the trick is the

498
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: schedule coming out of the buy. You have to have

499
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: enough pieces to survive it. And there's some of those

500
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: teams that haven't looked as good as what we thought,

501
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: but they're still going to be formidable and yeah, and

502
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: you have to get through this whole stretch. But if

503
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: they can do that, yeah, I think there's still a

504
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: lot of pieces that they could put into their right

505
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 3: spots and and be competitive.

506
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you despite my terrible question, you were

507
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: able to filibuster your way through it, yeah, and found

508
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: found a way to move forward. We hear we hear

509
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: a lot of filibustering sometimes, and I think that you

510
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: did a terrific job.

511
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: Thank you.

512
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: The Ben Gesling and studio a couple more so to

513
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: the quarterback question, watching Drake May on Sunday Night, watching

514
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: and Trevor Lawrence. I mean, these are these are not

515
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: comparable given years in service, and Trevor Lawrence just made

516
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: you know it made two hundred million plus dollars. They're

517
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna ride with him and they But but

518
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: if not, now when scenario for him and Trevor and

519
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, He's showing up.

520
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: But Drake May in particular going backwards to Sunday Night.

521
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: That completely reinvigorated me to see JJ McCarthy on the

522
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: field and getting him an opportunity as you talked about

523
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: in the health And that's why very unanswerable question that

524
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: I put you put in front of you because because

525
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: of the health situation around but getting nine back on

526
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: the field, the the commitment that the coach has, while

527
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: not being definitive and pressers kind of the idea, once

528
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: we get a rhythm with him, once we get him

529
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: practicing in full on a daily basis, then the development

530
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: plan is the plan?

531
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Speaker 1: How has it have?

532
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: Have you found the right answer in terms of how

533
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: this team or at least the maybe a clue to

534
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: an angle in terms of how they're going to handle

535
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: McCarthy or Carson post break, well, I think the first

536
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: question is win.

537
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: Is JJ McCarthy fully healthy, when is he fully back

538
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: from that ankle sprain to the point where he can

539
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: do everything that they want him to do, which does

540
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: include being mobile on the field. I mean we saw

541
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: that the first game where he scores on the zone redplay.

542
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean that is going to be part of what

543
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: they want him to do, and I think if he's

544
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: not at full capacity with that, they're not going to

545
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: rush it. So that is the first question. But I

546
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: don't look at this as like a horse race between

547
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy and Carson Wentz because this season is still

548
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: about figuring out what you have in JJ McCarthy. I

549
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: think that is yes, the north star. I mean, yes,

550
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: this question of it can this team win now? I

551
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: think they built it with the belief that they can

552
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: win now with JJ McCarthy as the quarterback, knowing they

553
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: were going to be some bumps in the road during

554
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: that process. But you have to come out of this

555
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: season understanding what he's going to be and I think

556
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: that has been the plan the entire time. I don't

557
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: think they can get waylaid from that a whole lot,

558
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: because that will be what this regime is defined by.

559
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: Did you fix the quarterback situation long term? Are we

560
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: out of this world where it's okay, this guy is

561
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: a mid career player.

562
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: Do we sign a long term deal? Did we let

563
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: him go?

564
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: I mean, all of these things they've done last year

565
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: with Cousins, Darnold Jones, et cetera. They don't want to

566
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: live in that world. No, and I don't want to

567
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: live in that nobody does. I mean, we've watched the

568
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: recipe play out in Wisconsin for the last thirty some years,

569
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: and Vikings fans are saying, we want our own version

570
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: of it. Blakemore's probably back here smirking. I was just

571
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: written the term yes to see. But I mean, that

572
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: is the way, if you can do it that people

573
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: want to live. Is that you have a guy for

574
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: fifteen years and then you drive after replacement and he

575
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: is the understudy for a couple and then you just

576
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: it's a seamless transition, and you're always competitive because of that.

577
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: So the first step to that is figuring out if

578
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: the guy you have now can be that player and

579
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: I think that is still the main goal for the

580
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: rest of the season. So I think it's more about

581
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: when is he healthy and ready to do everything you

582
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: want to do than sort of this where does he

583
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: stack up in comparison to with Carson Wentz, Because if

584
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: you're sitting here in early October saying, well, the guy

585
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: we draft the tenth overall, the guy that we said

586
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: no to Daniel Jones, to Sam Darnold, to Aaron Rodgers,

587
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: it's either him or the guy we brought in in

588
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: late August. You know, I don't know which one it is.

589
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: That's not much of a plan. I don't think that.

590
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean, winning some games with Carson Wentz has been

591
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: a good thing, but I don't think you can let

592
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: that make you deviate from what you decided your plan

593
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: is going to be. I think you still have to

594
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: see that out, and I think that will ultimately dictate

595
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: the way they go with this thing. Seem I'm glad you.

596
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad you've framed it up that way because it

597
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: perfectly said because for me, as I've kind of gone

598
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: through this, Carson Wentz is never going to be in

599
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: the way that we talk about. If JJ comes in

600
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: and he's not good. Yeah, like there's a fear element,

601
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: there's a risk element. I've seen it from listeners and

602
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: we've talked through it. Carson Wentz is never going to

603
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: be so awful that you absolutely have to drag him

604
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: off the field. Yeah, as long as he's healthy, he

605
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: will get you to be competitive in these games. He'll

606
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: make mistakes. He's going to throw a bad pick, he's

607
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: going to take a bad sack. Yeah, he's going to

608
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: make a decision like maybe getting rid of the ball

609
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 2: instead of trying to run with it. That put him

610
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: in a spot where his shoulder got hurt the other day.

611
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: But he's never going to be awful to take him

612
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: off the field. So do you want to live in that?

613
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: So you're competitive against the Eagles, you go on a

614
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: short week, you beat the Tars. Now you're four and three,

615
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Well you still don't know what the kid has, right,

616
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: and just continue to play that out. Well, we we

617
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: want to win. Now we get a little bit healthier,

618
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: we grind our way. If you are an eight If

619
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: you're a nine win team with Carson Wentz opportunity to

620
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: go to Tampa or Philly and losing a wild card game,

621
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: do you feel like that's successful versus potentially being a

622
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: seven to eight win team. But we know in some ways,

623
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: through let's say, ten twelve games of play, Carson JJ

624
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: McCarthy is or is.

625
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Not a viable answer long term.

626
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: And I know people don't, you know, it's crazy for

627
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: me to say this, you know, losing with JJ McCarthy

628
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: better than winning with Carson Wentz. But I actually do

629
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: believe that at a base level there's some honesty and

630
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: there's some truth there from a long term standpoint of

631
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: the franchise. This team wasting Justin Jefferson's prime years. Yeah,

632
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: going nine to eight every year is wasting the prime

633
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: years of Justin Jefferson two.

634
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: We saw it Garnett early one and done kind of stuff.

635
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, single game situations, we saw it last night. Single season,

636
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: we see it with the Chiefs every year. We see

637
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: it with with what the Eagles have been able to.

638
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Do, et cetera.

639
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: That prime quarterback play is going to get you over

640
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: that hump to where you win in those playoff games

641
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: that are so important and and so at some point

642
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: that health and maybe the health of the old lives.

643
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: See I wonder, you know, I know the head coach.

644
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's kind of had his uh his

645
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: antenna has been up recently because of the idea of

646
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: soft benching or this, and he's been so adamant. And

647
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's a soft benching by any means.

648
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: The kid's ankles hurt, but if it was a soft

649
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: bench that would require They've been lying on the injury

650
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: reports the last several weeks as well.

651
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: So I don't I'm not seeing any lies coming from

652
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: their camp. However, I do kind of wonder if there's

653
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: a bit of this element now moving forward, not just

654
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: JJ being healthy, but I want to know that Donovan

655
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Speaker 2: Jackson's going to be back. I want to know that

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Speaker 2: when I put that kid back in, he does indeed

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Speaker 2: have the best of what they can currently do Ryan

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Speaker 2: Kelly and O'Neil week to week aside to put in

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Speaker 2: front of him, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that is that's why they constructed

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Speaker 3: this line in part to protect him. I mean, some

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Speaker 3: of it was also to be better running the ball,

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Speaker 3: which they've been, but they wanted the pressure up the

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Speaker 3: middle that dictated that playoff game against the Rams to

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Speaker 3: not be something that affects JJ McCarthy in his first

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Speaker 3: year as a starter, and I think the fact that

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Speaker 3: he has not played a game with Christian Darosaw as

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Speaker 3: his left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yet is worth noting.

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Speaker 3: It's almost criminal, yeah, and in that I think changes

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Speaker 3: things a lot when you are the quarterback that's helping

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Speaker 3: set protections and you can say we've got a little

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Speaker 3: bit of the setate.

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Speaker 1: And forget it.

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Speaker 3: I mean Kevin O'Connell talks about the weighty downs you

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Speaker 3: have Christian Darosaw, where it's the help is not coming.

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Speaker 3: You have to win your matchup. You're not getting a chip,

679
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: you're not getting another guy to help you with a

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Speaker 3: double team or running back shaded to this side or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You have your guy and we trust that you can

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Speaker 3: handle it. When you that player, it changes a lot

683
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Speaker 3: of things the way you set the rest of your protections.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's worth noting that they haven't had

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Speaker 3: him on the field with Daris Saw yet. So I

686
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Speaker 3: think a lot of what they are hoping to do,

687
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Speaker 3: or have been hoping to do, is to have a

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Speaker 3: supporting cast strong enough that if you get a representative

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Speaker 3: level of play from JJ McCarthy, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be what we saw from what we see from Patrick

691
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Speaker 3: Mahomes at times, or what we see from Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be that yet, but if you

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Speaker 3: can get some version of what Carson Wentz has been

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Speaker 3: giving you where it's the ball gets out. Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 3: talked again yesterday about footwork and he said that a

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Speaker 3: few times with Wentz. I think that's been a message

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Speaker 3: to McCarthy, and that was the case again yesterday of hey,

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Speaker 3: let's get back to some of these fundamentals that you've

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Speaker 3: seen Carson Wentz demonstrating in this offense. If you can

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Speaker 3: get that from JJ McCarthy, you may be able to

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Speaker 3: get the same level of play or something similar to

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Speaker 3: the level play you've gotten from Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz

703
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Speaker 3: was very good on that last drive. The last row

704
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Speaker 3: he hit to Jordan Adison was a big time throw.

705
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Speaker 3: I think they want to see JJ McCarthy approach. That

706
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean it all has to be there right now,

707
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Speaker 3: but if you can get close to that, given what

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Speaker 3: they have around him, if it's healthy, I think they

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Speaker 3: feel like we can be competitive now. And then he

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Speaker 3: gets the development in the same time. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: kind of been the whole mo of this team, and

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Speaker 3: I think it will be very telling if you see

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Speaker 3: him do some of those things once he gets healthy

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Speaker 3: and once they get the cast around him, because that

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Speaker 3: has been the aim, that's been what they wanted this

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Speaker 3: season to be, and I think there's still a chance

717
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Speaker 3: to get a lot of that, or at least figure out, hey,

718
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Speaker 3: this isn't where we want to be, and then that

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Speaker 3: leads to larger questions, but at least you know, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What's going to be fresh.

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Speaker 2: Maybe everyone's just turned the lights off and taken a

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Speaker 2: breath for a few days, But what's the next angle

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Speaker 2: via the strip?

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll do a podcast tomorrow, kind of a bye

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Speaker 3: week mail bag kind of thing, and then the newsletter

726
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Speaker 3: will still come out on Friday. People can sign up

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Speaker 3: for that on my Socials. Free newsletter comes out every Friday,

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Speaker 3: kind of a have kind of a look at you know,

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's talked about what the identity of this team

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Speaker 3: is going to be, and we'll take a kind of

731
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Speaker 3: thirty thousand foot view of that in the newsletter on Friday.

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Speaker 3: And then Emily Laker has been working on a kind

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Speaker 3: of a fun story on Justin Jefferson with off field

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Speaker 3: to have that done for Sunday, so people should check

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Speaker 3: that out too. That'll be I don't want to spoil

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Speaker 3: it too much, but it'll be a fun one at

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Speaker 3: the sight of Justin Jefferson that we don't cover much

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Speaker 3: in the Start Tribune, so it should be a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun to read that one.

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Speaker 1: No, that's awesome, Thanks for hanging out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We headed to first news to nord style number why.

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Speaker 4: We're headed a doo ball, which I always thought was

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Speaker 4: weird because I would just be like saying, hennepin here.

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Speaker 4: But regardless, how about the Jags thirty one to twenty

775
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Speaker 4: eight winners over the Chiefs. I think this week has

776
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Speaker 4: almost been like a great evening week because you've got

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Speaker 4: the Eagles kind of looking flat in the fourth against

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Speaker 4: the Broncos. You've got a completely inept Bills offense for

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Speaker 4: a change that just didn't want to have the ball.

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Speaker 4: And then you've got the Chiefs, who were not undefeated,

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Speaker 4: but they were still considered to be a good team.

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Speaker 4: They're still the Chiefs. They're now two and three after

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Speaker 4: losing on the road to the Jags. Trevor Lawrence absolutely

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Speaker 4: lights out down the stretch, made two unbelievable ice cold throws,

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Speaker 4: and then the losing your balance trying to get back up,

786
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Speaker 4: losing your balance again to then run into the end

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Speaker 4: zone to score the game winner. Just an unbelievable game

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Speaker 4: to watch. I was watching the Manning cast. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you're a Manning cast guy or not.

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Speaker 2: I like the Mannings. I haven't tuned into a Manning cast,

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Speaker 2: but they're usually pretty good.

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Speaker 4: This is a perfect Manning Cast game for me, because

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Speaker 4: there are two teams that are good. It'd be a

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Speaker 4: good game. But I don't really care. You know, I

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Speaker 4: don't have the invested.

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Speaker 2: It's not Minnesota, a Green Bay Area Packers fans and

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Speaker 2: nothing matters outside of that.

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Speaker 1: Out of my purview, that is correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But how about the Jags though they're four and one,

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Speaker 4: they're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: What a game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, speaking on it earlier, just kind

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Speaker 2: of the if not now when question I had asked

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Speaker 2: prior to the season, and for a few different quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, Trevor Lawrence was one of them, at

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Speaker 2: least for a night, showing out in a big way

807
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Speaker 2: in primetime against Mahomes and finding a way to best

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Speaker 2: them despite throws a pick earlier in the game. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a fumble at the goal line fourth

810
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Speaker 2: and one, maybe Nick Polton recover that I forget, but

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Speaker 2: you get you get a little bit of everything in

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Speaker 2: there with with Devin Lloyd and the pick six for

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Speaker 2: nine nine yards, but when you absolutely had to have it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lawrence has clomped around a little bit throughout

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Speaker 2: his career and the team's come up short and lost

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Speaker 2: their way out of the playoffs. But you know, last night,

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Speaker 2: even he's running three yards past the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 2: and trying to throw the ball, Like, what's that all about?

819
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Speaker 2: Figure out where the line of scrimmage is dude. But

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Speaker 2: then he just he's he's absolutely magnificent in that toss

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Speaker 2: to Brian Thomas, after having to scramble a little bit,

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Speaker 2: finds his way there, hangs in the pocket on that

823
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Speaker 2: particular one, and then yeah, finding some poise. And I

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Speaker 2: think even in the postgame he stopped by the booth

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Speaker 2: or the table field side with SVP on ESPN and

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Speaker 2: he's he's like, it was panic, but then I got

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Speaker 2: up and I expected maybe some pressure here or somebody

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Speaker 2: to come and get me. But then suddenly it was

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Speaker 2: like the Red Sea parted and I found my way

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Speaker 2: into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: So it was a cool moment.

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Speaker 2: The Jags absolutely, you know, with all that is new

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Speaker 2: down there in Jacksonville, they have a defense that can play.

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Speaker 2: They got a kid at t end now that he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: that's running the heck out of the ball. They have

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Speaker 2: some weapons there, you know, still trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: how to use. Travis Hunter. Unbelievable catch he had last night,

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Speaker 2: like some of me. You know, he's like forty some

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Speaker 2: yards or something like that. Highlight play between a couple

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Speaker 2: Chiefs defenders and and you say, it was kind of

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Speaker 2: an evening moment, it was almost the weekend was kind

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Speaker 2: of unevening. Whether it was the Bills who had eight

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Speaker 2: total turnovers a year ago.

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Speaker 1: That's part of their story, from.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen not turning over the ball to the team

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Speaker 2: in general not turning over the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's been part of their evolution.

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Speaker 2: And they're coughing it up on the ground a couple

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Speaker 2: times early on, and Alan throws a pick, and then

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Speaker 2: Drake may and the performance that he had. But from

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's happening in the AFC West right now?

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Speaker 1: Bronco's finding their way through Philly.

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Speaker 2: Philly's no longer undefeated, but the Chiefs losing the way

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00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: they did the Raiders, it just looked like a mess in.

855
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Geno Smith might just not have it. He may have

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Speaker 2: lost it. Tip of the Captain Schneider, by the way,

857
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Speaker 2: who twice in a row now has figured out how

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Speaker 2: to move on from Russell Will Wilson before he completely creted,

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Speaker 2: And now it appears maybe Geno Smith before he completely creators.

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Speaker 2: And now they're rolling with Sam Darnold in a shootout

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Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield, who's researched his career.

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Speaker 1: Donald now appears to be even better than he.

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Speaker 2: Was last year in Minnesota, as Vikings fans frustrated. But no,

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Speaker 2: the games this particular weekend among it just again it's

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Speaker 2: like someone's going to point out, well, you wouldn't believe

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Speaker 2: week seven from twenty twenty two. I just don't remember

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Speaker 2: Week seven from twenty twenty two. Maybe it was crazier,

868
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Speaker 2: but this was a nutty weekend for games and it

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Speaker 2: was an absolute blast. But just kind of building again

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Speaker 2: back into the JJ conversation. I want to see JJ

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Speaker 2: have the opportunity that a Drake May did to build

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Speaker 2: himself into whatever he possibly can be this weekend. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the is it over a conversation with some of these divisions,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the AFC North, the Ravens at one and four,

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Speaker 2: still very much game in that weird division.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Bills probably still run away favorites in the AFC East,

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Speaker 2: but the Patriots with Vrabel and everybody, they're going to

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Speaker 2: be game. The Eagles no longer perfect. The NFC North

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Speaker 2: is a complete mess. The tie into the by our

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Speaker 2: squads three and two. The Bears, well they're not going

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Speaker 2: to be winless. We know that they're two and two.

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Speaker 2: The Saints won a freaking game that's not supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: They're awful, but they did.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals one of the most egregious losses in franchise history.

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Speaker 2: The Niners Mac Jones limping his way down the field

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Speaker 2: to victory against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: That was a fun weekend in the league. Got time

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Speaker 1: for one more and then we'll pause and find La Belle.

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Speaker 1: Let's do one more. Number two. It's NHL Opening Night tonight.

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Speaker 4: Three games on the dock at first game at four,

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Speaker 4: Blackhawks going two sunrise to take on the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Panthers.

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Speaker 4: And then a seven o'clock Penguins Rangers matchup a nine

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Speaker 4: to thirty Avalanche Kings. Let's go Kings. It's the perfect

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Speaker 4: day for NHL. Opening day of the week is a Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest. There's no football going on, there's no

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Speaker 4: NVA yet, there's preseason sure, uh, but I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be locked into this kind of three game slate going

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Speaker 4: on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's sweet.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm I'm excited for specifically more so

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Speaker 2: for the wild I'll be honest, I'm gonna I'm going

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Speaker 2: to check out some playoff baseball. Later today, I will

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Speaker 2: I will pop in just to see specifically the Abs

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Speaker 2: and just kind of connect with with what they're up to.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Rangers don't necessarily do a lot for me.

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Speaker 2: The Rangers were my team, my Eastern Conference team for

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Speaker 2: a minute. So it's just Stirkin and Crider and Savannah

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Speaker 2: jad I'm on in MSG.

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Speaker 1: There's some value to that. Yeah, yes it was. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a poor and fleeting response to my favorite

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Speaker 2: hockey team getting ousted in the first round every year.

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Speaker 2: It was a poor decision on my part and I

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Speaker 2: moved on from it. But yes, NHL Liftoff is going

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Speaker 2: to be sweet, but even better than that Thursday night

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Speaker 2: in Saint Louis getting to see the Minnesota Wild and

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Speaker 2: getting to see Caprice off with.

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Speaker 1: All that money.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it's not weighing them down on the ice and

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Speaker 2: then in the Wild can get two points again the Blues.

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Speaker 1: That's that's news.

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Speaker 2: De Nord and uh, he didn't mention playoff baseball. But

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Speaker 2: that's okay because Lavelle Neil, the third from the Star

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Speaker 2: Tribune is going to be in studio.

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Speaker 1: The columnist.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a Popo Rio, Topics, our

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Speaker 2: favorite baseball team in the managerial search, MLB playoffs at

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Speaker 2: large bears off the bye week, the NFC North, what

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Speaker 2: he thought of the vikings in London. All sorts of

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Speaker 2: topics coming your way with lavell As the final hour

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Speaker 2: unfolds and starts next right here on the fan