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It's my favorite 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: subject that we don't dive into it very often, the 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Vikings quarterback conundrum. Where they've been, where they're going, where 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: they're at with the quarterback situation. So I was reading 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: from a piece from something called SB Nation, Yahoo Sports, 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: and here's what what they write in the context of 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: the Vikings potentially partying ways of McCarthy. It's worth noting 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: that McCarthy lost an important supporter in Quezy Adolpha Mensa. 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: The rumor was that it was Adolpha Mensa who prioritized 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: McCarthy over making a serious attempt to extend Sam Darnold 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: and also let Daniel Jones take a lower offer from 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: the Colts as he viewed his chance to be the 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: starter as better In Indianapolis, Kevin O'Connell wasn't as convinced 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: that McCarthy was ready to be the starter last year. 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: Adolpha Menza's role in the quarterback decision making last year 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: was thought to have been a significant reason for his 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: release at the end of January, as it damages apparently 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: already shaky credibility within the organization. Ultimately, McCarthy was Adolpha 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Menza's pick, and apparently was Adolpha Mensa who was the 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: key to his being a starter last year. Certainly, head 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: coach Kevin O'Connell's expressed support for McCarthy as well, along 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: with acting GM Rob Bazinski, but that support has seemingly 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: been rolled back or qualified in recent comments since a 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: Doopha Mensa has fired. Those comments raised doubts about the 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Vikings comitment to McCarthy. Now you read what Alec Lewis 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: wrote this weekend, and he says, like last offseason, head 36 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: coach Kevin O'Connell, of the strongest personnel voice on the 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: quarterback situation. 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: Also of note, many of the Vikings. 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: Highs profile players are watching closely to see who the 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: team lands. 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 3: I read that as. 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Head coach Kevin O'Connell of the strongest personnel voice on 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback situation, as he did last offseason. I've been 44 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: led to believe by the people I trust that McCarthy 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: was all O'Connor was all in on McCarthy. This other 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: writer seems to be suggesting there was adolpha mensa almost 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: at McCarthy, or that O'Connell had to be pulled along. 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you there's there's spin doctoring going around 49 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: over at TCO Performance Center. 50 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: Sure, that's the only way I can see it is 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: nobody wants to. 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Take them trying to find their fall guy. 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: That's exactly what they're trying to do. 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: And now I guess quays he becomes the convenient fall 55 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: guy because he's gone. Now, whether Quaysy's ever gonna say anything, 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: you know, will everybody go Quaycy? 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: Whose decision was it? 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: Was it more? 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: You more? 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: O'Connell more? Whoever? 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: Wilf's director of player person who who who is the 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: highest what was it? Could be Paul Allen. I don't 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: know if he'll ever say anything. He now works for 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: San Francisco again, right, yes, the boys he getting hired. Yeah, 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: so he might not want to, uh say anything. 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: I think there's plenty of blame to be spread around. 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: You'll never ever be able to convince me that Kevin 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: O'Connell or any coach for that matter, doesn't have a 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: very large say in personnel decisions with the team. I 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: don't the general manager breaks the ties. Maybe there was 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: a tie in that situation when they drafted him. Maybe 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: there was a tie when they decided should they keep Darnold. 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: I mean. 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: O'Connell said all the right things. I mean he certainly didn't. 75 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: Nobody threw anybody under the bus publicly. 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: Right. 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: If you'll remember, what O'Connell said was Sam has earned 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: the right to be a free agent. 79 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: I also was told by people I trust, and whether 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: it's true or not, but what I was told was 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: that part of McCarthy ree or O'Connell resigning his deal, 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: you know, the extension was I got to have more 84 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: say personnel decisions. 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: And it sounds like when Alec writes, is like last. 86 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: Offseason, head coach Kevin o'conne will have the strongest personnel 87 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: voice on the quarterback situation last offseason. And I tend 88 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: to trust Lewis who's there every day, than Fantasy Football 89 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: guy or some other guy that they're not there every day, 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, but. 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: Maybe they know more. 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe in Fantasy Football guy or the the 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: other player were the other writer mentioned it here who 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: works for NBC Sports. Maybe maybe they're more plugged in 95 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: over Winter Park. Maybe they new CCO performance, Maybe they are. 96 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: I kind of tend to trust the local guys more 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: because they're there every day in the trenches, right, you know, 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: your your your your your Seaffert's there all the time. Uh, 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 2: you're a Lewis Craig, Mark Craig, they're there all the time, 100 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: right And the columnists all, you know, just all the people 101 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: that cover the vikings are there. Emily Leeker like her, 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: I think she's she's there. These people are there all 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: the time, and so I tend to trust them, and 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, I I guess. 105 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: I did. 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, does it really even 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: matter who made the decisions? 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: I don't know. 109 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: I I guess it's you could do the oldest water 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: under the bridge, but it's still it's such a critical 111 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: decision when you see what Darnold was able to do, 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: and we understand that. 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Look, they had a great defense. Vikings defense is really 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: good too. 115 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 2: I think they were probably both ranked in the top five, 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: but that Seattle's defense was extra special. 117 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: They had, you know, they. 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Coach it kind of knows. Of course, he's a defensive 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: coach too, is the McDonald guy. Defensive coach. 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: So I don't know how much who was running the offense. 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: But Kubiak Kubiak is now the coach is. 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: San Francisco or San Francisco, but Vegas, Vegas, and. 123 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Does make you wonder, but I don't know, well, does 124 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: go back to a year ago the JJ McCarthy injury 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: his rookie season in in you know, after that preseason game. 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: That made it pretty challenging for these guys to make 127 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: a decision on quarterback last year because one, you know, 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: it's going to stunt your development a little bit when 129 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't get a full season of practicing. But two, 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: it also prevented the coaching staff from being able to 131 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: evaluate them properly. So when they had to make their 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: quarterback decision last year, JJ was still a bit of 133 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: a wild card because he didn't get see him practice 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: all year, and if you had, you might have been like, well, 135 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: this guy's not the guy who got to go out 136 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: and get somebody else. But there's always that potential of well, 137 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: we haven't seen them, let's see what's behind door number 138 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: two here, and they got bitten by it. 139 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: The Fantasy Football and NBC Sports sources Kevin O'Connell, Wait, 140 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: hold on, why you wouldn't want to do that right, 141 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: Distance yourself from that if you can not sure that's 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: what happened there. I'm telling you this common. This regime 143 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: is working overtime to get a splash player at quarterback. 144 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: If they run it with JJ and one of these 145 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: bums on a league minimum, they will all be fired 146 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: after this year. And they know it book it that 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: that could be. I don't know who that splash quarterback is, though, 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, I mean I feel. 149 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Like the yeah, the Burrow Lamar Jackson stuff has died down. Yeah, 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I those are the ones that immediately in the regulation. 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of the off season, people 152 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: try to throw those out hoping it'll stick well. 153 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: And you know, you might be more well versed on 154 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: this than I am. Why would either one of those 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: teams want to go in a different direction at quarterback. 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: They're both considered top five quarterbacks. 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: It might not be the teams. 158 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: It might be the players, Okay, right, it might be 159 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: Burrowed being like, I don't want to be here anymore. 160 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: In Minnesota will be the place he'd want to go. See. 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: That's the other thing, you know. I mean, I don't 162 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: know how much choice he has. I don't know the 163 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: ins and out. I know that in Major League Baseball 164 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: they have, you know, no trade clauses, and. 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: They have certain teams. I think they do that football too, 166 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: right me. 167 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: I don't think Minnesot's an awful landing, No. 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: No, But if you're Joe Burrow, is there much of 169 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: a difference between Cincinnati? I mean, do your receiver in 170 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's better than one in Minnesota? 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: Or at least they're. 172 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Close, you know, And you didn't get to a big game, 173 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: didn't didn't the Bungles losing the big game to the 174 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: Rams that second year? Yeah, so they got to a 175 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: big game is Cincinnati? And that bad of a spot. 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: That was back when you're on Joe Burrow's rookie contract. 177 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I get that he ain't gonna have no 178 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: rookie contract here either. 179 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: But they haven't provided him a defense, they haven't provided 180 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: him an offensive line. 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: Maybe he's losing. 182 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to be back in Cincinnati, so 183 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: it's not even worth talking about. But he was a 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: little cryptic at the end of the regular season, which 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: is why I think people thought maybe he potentially wants 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: to get out of there. 187 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: This one says, Kaos is known quarterback, whisper Quazy is 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: the numbers guy. 189 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: He had to defer to Chaos. So Quazy ass KOC. 190 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: You want Sam Darnold Becker, you want JJ and a 191 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: new offensive line. Tough call bottom line, as they couldn't 192 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: afford to do both because the draft faces in the 193 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: past three years. There might be something to that, And 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: that's what I don't know, will ever know. I just 195 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: feel like I would rather my coach if I hire 196 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: a guy to coach the club. I actually would if 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm the owner. And maybe this is crazy, maybe that 198 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: you can't do it this way, And this is. 199 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 3: Why I don't own it too well because I don't 200 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: writ any money either. 201 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: But I would rather my coach and the coaching staff 202 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: make personnel decisions. 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: In the GM I know the GM. 204 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: There's not to say that he can't find and develop 205 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: talent or understand talent as well. But if you've got 206 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: an offensive minded head coach who's the play caller puts 207 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: the whole thing together, I would think I would say, 208 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: you picked the guy you want a quarterback man, and 209 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: I'll draft them and we'll get the contracts. 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: But make sure you get the right guy. I'll do that. 211 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: I'll fill out some of the other spots, but tell 212 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: me who you want a quarterback. I just I just 213 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: I until somebody comes out and says how it really 214 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: went down, that's what I'll believe. It's I just I 215 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: just find it hard to believe that it wouldn't be. 216 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: But you know, and and the thing is is, I 217 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: don't know if we're ever going to find out. 218 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: We still never heard from Zimmer and Spielman regarded the fallouts. 219 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, how long ago is that? 220 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: In? 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: Four years? 222 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Right? Because it is o'connag going who was fifty year 223 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: and now it's five years ago. 224 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, four or five years. I'd still like to hear him. Zimmer, Yeah, 225 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: give us a tell all. Yeah, I'm not going to 226 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: coach again. What's that he's not going to coach protect 227 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I think come out and tell us. 228 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think he's one of those guys. 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: Here's one that says you could be the lot ofest 230 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: person in the room asking for a golf trip to 231 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Floor Rida. But if the guy making the decision says no, 232 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: it's his call. So it sounds like this text messager 233 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: believes it was all Quazy. 234 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: That could be. 235 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately he has to make the call. YEP. 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Probably what's really happened is your GM is supposed to 237 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: kind of probably be aligned with your with your head coach, 238 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: and you're talking about decisions together, and because you need 239 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: to talk about the coach of what type of players 240 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: do you want? And there was probably a separation there 241 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: right that Quazy can't think the game on Koc's level 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: and KOs is not thinking on Quazy's level, and they 243 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: couldn't get the two to come together. Well if you 244 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: were too, and maybe chaos is like going above Quazy's 245 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: head and going to the going to ownership going well, 246 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: he can't be making this decision. 247 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to go to you guys on this. Then 248 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: Ownership's making a decision. 249 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also heard it wasn't the friendliest arrangement either. 250 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: So, but I don't know. These are just rumors you 251 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: hear from people out of trust. But I don't know. 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: You know, let me ask you this, if you had 253 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: to make a prediction, what do you think the Vikings 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: quarterback room will look like come training camp time? 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Well, the two names being thrown out today are Kyler 256 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: Murray and Gino Smith. 257 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: Problems. 258 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: They're both technically under right under contract with someone right now, 259 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: so you have to assume they are going to get released. 260 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: If they're being honest about trying to give JJ McCarthy competition, 261 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I would probably say Gino Smith is probably going to 262 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: be more like just KOC given apparently his offense is 263 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: the most complic Hayden football, and that's been Kyler Murray's weakness. 264 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Right. 265 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Chaos has not really dealt with having a mobile quarterback. 266 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: He's kind of had more of pocket passers, which would 267 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: fit Gino Smith and kind of just give you a 268 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: bridge until you figure out the next one. 269 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: We haven't really heard Aaron Rodgers. I'm still not. 270 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I still think there's a chance Aaron Rodgers gets out 271 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh and comes here. I think Chaos may go, Hey, 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: we should have taken him last year. 273 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: We didn't. I think Rogers knows. 274 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: He's Pittsburgh's probably just a middle end team. 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, new coach. I don't know how much he likes McCarthy. 276 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it seems to me that in most 277 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: cases Rogers didn't like any of US coaches. 278 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: But he wants to do his own thing. Yeah, he 279 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: kind of wants to do his own thing. 280 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: But he did work. You know, he won a big 281 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: game with McCarthy. But yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I 282 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: don't think there's any Pittsburgh Vikings could be Middland too, 283 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: but they. 284 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: Well they were middling with the awful quarterbacks, all right. 285 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: That's it, and then the defense is pretty good, and 286 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: we'll we'll take a break, we'll come back. I was 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: gonna say controversial likings is, but that's about as controversial 288 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: as we can get. Maybe we'll do some little hockey 289 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: talk now here in the common Man program in the fan. 290 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: It's got a nice little rhythm to it. Yeah, it's 291 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: not bad. 292 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: What's this one? 293 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: It's called Vibes City Vibes. Have we done this before? 294 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: It's I think I recognize the title for sure. It's 295 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: kind of got a city vibe to it. I know 296 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: I promised hockey. 297 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: I just panicked. I don't have any more hockey stuff. 298 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: I'll do that in the last same and I'm gonna 299 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: let you break down the Wild and their chances of 300 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: getting to the NHL Finals Stanley Cup Finals. I did 301 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: see this though, Tennebee. I'd never heard of this before, 302 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: but apparently it's very popular. Have you ever heard of 303 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: the forty twenty rule in the NBA? The forty twenty rule. 304 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson was the one who came up with the 305 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: forty twenty rule. It was Scott Phillips Rice for the 306 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: Athletic Here's what he writes. During his decorated Hall of 307 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: Fame career, Phil Jackson routinely found unique ways to offer 308 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: words of wisdom, navigating some of the biggest egos in 309 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: basketball history while trying to stay sharp during the grind 310 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: of the NBA regular season. Jackson regularly used in season 311 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: challenges to keep his players focused. 312 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: See maybe that is the true. Maybe that's the difference 313 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: with a great coach. So what's the forty twenty rule. 314 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'll get to that one, but I wanted to 315 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: talk about this first paragraph because it's very to me. 316 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: It's eye opening because one of the issues that I have, 317 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm confounded and dumbfounded that somebody told me Doris Burke 318 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: was all over the Wolves this weekend two She said 319 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: she was just beside herself or something. They just couldn't 320 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: believe that the Wolves can be this inconsistent, look like 321 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: the best team in basketball for a game or two, 322 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: and then look like the worst team in basketball or 323 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: somewhere in between. But keeping players voted, We've gone through 324 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: the quotes, you know, for Ants at the very beginning 325 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: of the season, when they started off the season slow, 326 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: and he said, it just feels like we really don't 327 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: want to play these games, want to just get right 328 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. 329 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: And here it says. 330 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: Navigating some of the biggest egos in basketball history are 331 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: all trying to stay sharp during the grind of the 332 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: NBA regular season. Jackson regularly used in season challenges to 333 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: keep his teams focused. One Jackson statute that's gained traction 334 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: with common NBA fans over the last several years is the. 335 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: Forty before twenty rule. 336 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: History indicates that if an NBA team reaches forty wins 337 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: during the regular season before twenty losses, that team has 338 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: a credible chance at an NBA Championship. 339 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: It's staggering Eighteen. 340 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: Of the last nineteen NBA champs fit the forty before 341 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: twenty criteria, with even deeper roots the further you go back. 342 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Of course, it isn't a foregone conclusion that. 343 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: A forty before twenty team will win the twenty twenty 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: six NBA Championship. Plenty of other contenders are worth keeping 345 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: an eye on. If recent NBA playoffs werenning indication. There 346 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: are plenty of dangerous franchises lurking, but there are three 347 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: teams right now tending to be that one forty before 348 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: they lost twenty. They would be the Oklahoma City Thunder, 349 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs, and the Detroit Pistons. NBA writer 350 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: for The Athletic has quoted here a guy named Law Murray. 351 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: It says he extensively researched forty before twenty and its 352 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: value over decades of NBA play The forty twenty rules 353 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: particularly strong backing in the modern era after the three 354 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: point line was added, but the rules still transcends across 355 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: transcends across most NBA eras. 356 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: Here's what he says. 357 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm a strong believer of the forty before twenty rule 358 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: that Phil Jackson established. Of the seventy nine champions in 359 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: NBA history, only seventeen won the title after failing to 360 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: win forty games before they lost twenty. It's twenty one 361 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: point five percent. Moreover, only four teams in the three 362 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: point line era since nineteen seventy nine have won a 363 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: championship without being a forty before twenty contender. That's eight 364 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: point seven percent, and eighteen of the last nineteen champions 365 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: have cleared forty before twenty. The exception was the Milliwauka 366 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Bucks in twenty twenty one, and even the Bucks have 367 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: to beat a a forty before twenty team in the 368 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: NBA finals and the Phoenix Suns. Now, I will say this, 369 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: as cool as that sounds, like, wow, that's mystical, it's crazy. 370 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 2: It sort of like the teams that go oh to 371 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: two in the National Football League only make the playoffs 372 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: like twelve percent of the times. Well, that's because the 373 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: reason they're oh and two is because they're bad. That 374 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: they're not a good team, and so if you win 375 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: forty before two, you're a really good team. 376 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: So that probably is the reason. 377 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Why that that stat uh has some credence to it, 378 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: but it still is an. 379 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: Interesting uh A stat line. 380 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: And if in other words, it sounds like Jackson maybe 381 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: use that as part of his trend. We have to 382 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: keep the guys interested so they don't just decide not 383 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: to play defense like the Wolves do every other game. 384 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: He finds a way to go. You know what, guys, 385 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 4: we went forty before we lose twenty. 386 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: I got stats here that show right here in black 387 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: and white, the show. 388 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: Those bullem then just coasting the nurses never And I 389 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: don't think his Lakers teams did either. Right he did. Coach, 390 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: he did. I don't remember those years as much, but. 391 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: So you know, I kind of like that, And it's like, 392 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: maybe that's the whole trick with coaching in the NBA 393 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: is they're grown men playing a child's game. But I 394 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: think a lot of them are still like children, and 395 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: so you have to try to fool them into certain 396 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: into certain things. Right the forty before twenty You've probably 397 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: heard me say this on IT. 398 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't like to talk about myself. I really don't. 399 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: I'd rather never even mention my name common on the air, 400 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: and I'd really rather not talk about my next comedy 401 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: show coming up with Meat Sauce and Larry Mandella Guy, 402 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: which is April eighteenth, No thirteenth, I think it's thirteen, 403 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: oh boys thirteenth or eighteenth. It's a Friday or Saturday, 404 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: thirteenthir eighteenth. I'm coming up. 405 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, I don't like to talk about something using ozep. 406 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: But when I'm playing golf, if I shoot a thirty 407 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: eight two over, par as on the front side tend 408 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: to be the mantra in my head becomes forty before 409 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: twenty or birdie before bogie. 410 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: Because no Ulthlessen tell me anything, this makes sense. 411 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: I feel like if I'm too over, if I make 412 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: a birdie before I make a bogie, I go to 413 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: one over. 414 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: Then I feel like I got a chance. 415 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: To shoot even par I can make one more birdie. 416 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: But if I make a bogie before birdie and go 417 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: to three over, what are the chances I'm gonna rattle 418 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: off three birdies? 419 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: I could? But I just know that. 420 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: Especially if I go like since I get to ten 421 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: and I go par par eleven, par twelve and then 422 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: bogie thirteen, well I'm three over with I'm almost five 423 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: to go. 424 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 4: Ye, not really not gonna work. 425 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: But if I go bogie bogie, bogie bogie birdie, WHOA 426 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: just have to get one more So I use the 427 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: same psychological ploy to fool. 428 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: My seven ninety two. I just say bogie before double. 429 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: That's how I view it. 430 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. 431 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: But does that make sense? And so I think that's 432 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: what the forty twenty thing is. 433 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: I like out. 434 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like it. Maybe you should apply that 435 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: to your hockey coaching, Tennabe, Maybe figure out a way 436 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: just you know, pick a couple of random numbers. 437 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how many. 438 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: How many games do the kids Leo's age usually play. 439 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: In the season, thirty ish, maybe thirty thirty five? 440 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: So why don't you do the fifteen before five or 441 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: twenty before ten, twenty before ten? 442 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do the twenty before ten. 443 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: Though. I don't think with those with kids that age, 444 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: you have to worry about effort, right they love to. 445 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Play play for the really well, it's not effort, it's 446 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: focused focused. They're nine ten years old. Yeah, that's that's it. Yeah, 447 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: sort of like the kid and right field don't quite 448 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: have that killer instinct yet. Sort of like the kid 449 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: and right field picking Dannylies right. 450 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: You have no idea that age what team you're going 451 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: to get on any given day. 452 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 3: That's true. 453 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: Or let's take a break. One more segment, Togo, I 454 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: do want to talk some hockey. I want to get 455 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: your thoughts. I am over the Quinnesota thing. I was 456 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 2: really annoyed with him doing all these traveling around him. 457 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: He's our losses are Quinn's fault time. 458 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: Well, he's Saturday Night Live one night that he's back. 459 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: First he plays and he jets over to New York 460 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: on a Saturday line. Then he's back on a plane 461 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: tonight he's doing tonight show. Then he's back with the team. 462 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: It's like Stave Paulwart tomorrow. Well, maybe it's because he's 463 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: finally done with all these. 464 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: At least it's an eight thirty start tomorrow nights. Maybe 465 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: get a hill of time for the nap, maybe maybe 466 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: the afternoon. 467 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he planned on doing it on Monday. 468 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: Well, break, we'll come back. 469 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: One more segment to go here on the comment Man 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: program on the Fan. 471 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm responding to a very important email. I can 472 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: check my email on my phone now. 473 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Actually I probably should have hit this button 474 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: and said. 475 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Hold on I gotta do this right now. I'm sorry. 476 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: I'll just reply with this shortly is what I'll give 477 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: the person. Shortly, I'll respond shortly. 478 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: Gosh darn it. 479 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: Uh okay, here's what I have for It tend to 480 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: be before we do hockey. The last time that I 481 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: exercised was when I was doing five point fifteen and 482 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: five fifteen. I was back in nineteen ninety nine. I partied. 483 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: I exercised like it was nineteen ninetynine. That was six 484 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 2: weeks before my wedding. I went on the air and 485 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'd like to lose twenty pounds. 486 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: It was strictly vanity. It was for the wedding pictures. Right. 487 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: Dan Kelly, who became personal trainer guy, he was over 488 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: a lifetime in Woodbury. Then he heard me sent me 489 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: an email or called whatever it was and said I 490 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: can get you twenty. 491 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: Pounds six weeks. 492 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: At exactly six weeks, I was down exactly twenty pounds 493 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: and I got toned. The example I always use, I 494 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: didn't look like Mike Morris, you know where like if 495 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: you see Mike Morris and you call out his name, 496 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: he's got to turn his entire body to look at you. 497 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: His neck is so it's like an oak tree. He's 498 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: got to turn this. He can't turn his right. So 499 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be like that, but I got 500 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: toned and it was kind of nice, and then I 501 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: let it all go away. So that was nineteen ninety nine. 502 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 3: Is now twenty twenty six. 503 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: I haven't exercised in twenty seven years other than play golf. 504 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: And I don't even know if he counted as exercise. 505 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: If you walk the eighteen, I would I started today, Well. 506 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: I didn't really do a lot. 507 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: I took the garbage out average, so I went out 508 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: to the garage and took the garbage out. I started excess, 509 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: and then I did one hundred jumping jacks, one hundred, 510 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: one hundred. I don't know if that I mean. I 511 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: think most people I'll get ripped. I know, you know 512 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: that's not even that doesn't count. They'll say jumping jacks 513 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: don't do anything for you did those back and forth 514 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: grade third grade, you did jumping jacks. 515 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: I think jumping jacks is great extually. I couldn't even 516 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: remember how to do them, it'd been that long. 517 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: I kept doing this, I kept put of my arms 518 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: down and go on my way, arms up, legs out, 519 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: arms down, legs in. 520 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: I did one hundred. I was and I wasn't winded. 521 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Winded, and I I could have done some. 522 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: More, but I said, then you know what I did. Now, 523 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 3: I think I told you this. 524 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: I did try some planks the other day because I 525 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: heard that's. 526 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: Good for your core. 527 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: But you got to take your just like on a 528 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: push up, you have to take your toes and you're 529 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: up on your toes right well, I have arthritis on 530 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: my feet is so bad. 531 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: The next day, after doing planks. 532 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: From the first time, I couldn't even walk barely because 533 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: they just fled. I googled if you have arthritis in 534 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: the ball joints of your big toe, will planks make 535 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: your arthritis forever? 536 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: And said yes, with like nine exclamation artists like you idiot? 537 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: So now I do them where I got one of those. 538 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: I did push ups today where I put my legs 539 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: out across the ottoman. 540 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: So do you do you know harm? Can you can 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: you picture harm? 542 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: To do it? 543 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: It would be like if I is going to do 544 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: a push up right here on the floor here, and 545 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch this floor with my hands, but you 546 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: put your feet up on the chair, right, Yeah, and 547 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: do push ups that way. 548 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: I've heard it's harder to do that way. I did 549 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: twenty of those. You got to start somewhere, right, What 550 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: are you looking up. 551 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: Chances of a sixty seven yeard magnet heart attack after 552 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: doing one hundred jumping jacks. 553 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Good for you. And then I 554 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: I got to get back to doing some of that stuff. 555 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: Too, and then I did the push ups too. 556 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: What about burpies, Well, that's usually if I. 557 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: Have a carbonated soda and I drink it too fast. 558 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I could sit ups. I 559 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: suppose I. 560 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: God's kind of like a push up slash right jumping 561 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: jack combo. 562 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 563 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: So though, you know, if you're looking to lose weight, 564 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: you can burn four thousand calories playing around the golf. 565 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: If you really want to work at it, you can 566 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: do that. 567 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited for it to warm up this week because 568 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Roma needs the workout and I could use some walking 569 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: as well. And you know, a lot of times during 570 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the winter when it's five degrees it's hard to convince 571 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: myself to go for a walk. 572 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: I tried calling. 573 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: Steve will look today over at Oak Marsh to see 574 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: if they're going to open up. 575 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: This week they could. 576 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: Why he didn't answer the phone, He probably saw it 577 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: with me and he's like, no comment, it's too early 578 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: because the problem is when you see the you know, 579 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: when when the snow melts, like in the neighborhoods, that's 580 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of asphalt around. And yeah, your 581 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: yard melts faster than the golf course, just because the 582 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: golf courses out me always probably going he's going to 583 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: ask if you're ready to open to play golf, and 584 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I know we don't have the golf course, but I'll 585 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: find out. 586 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get back to him. 587 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: Your wild club is having just a terrific season as 588 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: we know. Trade deadline you say is Friday? Right, Yes, 589 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: you think tro Check is probably the most likely. 590 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: Candidate. 591 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: What's what I'm going with right now? 592 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: What do you got to give up to get a 593 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: guy like tro Check? 594 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Do you think? I mean, if it's the old they 595 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: probably drive a hard bargain. They know you want them, 596 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: so they probably ask for more than he's one. 597 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: He's not a rental right, so he'd be an under 598 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: contract and a pretty reasonable deal for the next I 599 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: think the two more seasons after this are three seasons 600 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: after this at at like five and a half million ish, 601 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: So you know, if you're going with a rental, you 602 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: don't have to give up as much because it's just 603 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: a team. They're going to lose a guy a free 604 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: agency and they're trying to get rid of them. But 605 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: giving he's under contract at a reasonable contract for the 606 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: next three years, my guess is you're gonna have to 607 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: give up a first round pick plus a prospect minimum. 608 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: And the Wild don't have as many prospects, so it's 609 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: hard to know what the New York Rangers are looking 610 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: for for prospects. But you know, I don't know if 611 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: Trocheck's won that i'd give up Vall said, for he's 612 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: your top prospect. But they have a Charlie Straymol who 613 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: was a former first. 614 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: Round pick who. 615 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: Got off to a bad start in college and Wild 616 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: fans were giving up on him, and he's he's turning 617 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: around at Michigan State and he's going to be a 618 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: power forward. 619 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: He's gonna be a center for you. 620 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: He's probably in that range of a prospect you have 621 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: to give up, But like I said, it's hard to 622 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: know who the Rangers like from a prospect standpoint, but 623 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to go first round plus of 624 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: prospect minimum. But even like Trocheck, I saw comments from 625 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: the day, like you can tell by his comments he 626 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: knows he's getting traded. Oh really, it's just a matter 627 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: of where and when at this point. And he was 628 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: the same guy. I think I brought this up to 629 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: you before when Team USA was getting their pictures taken 630 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: in Italy, right, they'd have a little session four after practice. 631 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: He took us next to Wild player and each. 632 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Team all the Wild players were out there together, and 633 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: he made the joke up, should I get in on 634 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: this picture too? 635 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 4: Oh he did? Yeah, that was quick to laugher. 636 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think he knows one he's gonna get traded, 637 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: and two he knows the Wild of interest in him 638 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: and he would be a good fit. And you saw 639 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: I know Jewel Rksinek ended up playing yesterday. But the 640 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Wild got a scare when in Utah the other night 641 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: he took a stick to the eye, which is not fun. 642 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: And but I saw his quote today where he basically said, 643 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: not that big of a deal. 644 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: I got lucky, right because he. 645 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: Ended up playing yeah, he ended up playing yesterday, but 646 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: it was that twenty four hour reminder of what happens 647 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: to the team of Juel Harsonet gets hurt because the 648 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: depth falls off fast after him, and so there's probably 649 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: been questions about where the Wild should go. Should they 650 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: get a center, could they survive with like a Stamcoast 651 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: at wing. I think maybe losing what you thought you 652 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: might have lost jewelerks Neck for a little bit might 653 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: make you realize that we should probably get a center, 654 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: because if anything happens to Eck, I don't care what 655 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: else we have else all around us where we just 656 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: don't have the center depth to survive in a playoff 657 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: run without Eki, and we've seen that in previous playoff 658 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: seasons where he's been hurt. So I think they're going 659 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: to go the center out and Trocheck makes complete sense. 660 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: He's a right handed center. They're off on the face 661 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: offf circle. He's one of the best in the faceoff circle. 662 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: And he's also a right shot on the face off, 663 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: which is different than ericson Neck and Eurof and Sturm, 664 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: and in the playoffs in the past, they've been bitten 665 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: by the penalty kill and he's good on the penalty kill, 666 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: and he can contribute offensively. He get also played a 667 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: top six center role for you. Yeah, so I think 668 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: that's who they're going to have their eyes on. Whether 669 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: a deal gets consummated, that's another question because obviously other 670 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: teams could potentially throw up more for him than the wildcin. 671 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Well, and then you know, Sarah just wrote Sarah mcla 672 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: writes for a fish refactory west Side. 673 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: She just did a piece that came out a little 674 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: afternoon and it. 675 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: Says wild tread trade deadline primer. Vincent Trocheck fits the bill, 676 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: but obtaining him would be costly. So yeah, it's it's 677 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: it's but like I said, and I know, you know 678 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: when I when I said last week, I'm all in, 679 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: and then you said, well but. 680 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: We don't really need to be all and we got 681 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: an open windowless longer. 682 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: And that's what I kind of meant, though you know, 683 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't saying it's it's when this year or else. 684 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, as long as we're we're playing 685 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: as well as we are right now, I'm okay saying. 686 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: And I know they're not going to ask me. They 687 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: don't care if I'm okay with it, but I'm okay 688 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: with saying if we got to trade a prospect and 689 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: a good prospect and you know, we have to give 690 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: up what you know, a draft pick, first round draft 691 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: pick as good as we might not get a better 692 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: chance in this year. Now, we hope the windows open 693 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: for a couple more years that we we signed Quinnesota 694 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. But it's like, this is the 695 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: best Wild team there's ever been and you're you're. 696 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: You're right there, You're You're just like, go for it? 697 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 3: Why not? So I'm I you. 698 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: Know again, I know there's people are gonna say, yeah, 699 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: and if they get tro checking up getting bounced in 700 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: the first round, you'll be the first to rip them. 701 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I'll rip them. 702 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: But I still will say that I think it was 703 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: the right thing to do this, not just for the 704 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: for the fans, but for the owner. He wants to win, 705 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, he's one of those guys. I think most 706 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 2: owners are like him to a certain extent. I would 707 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: think the majority of them they have a team because 708 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: it's cool and they do want to win. They don't 709 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: want to just have a team to have a team. 710 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: Well exception might be the less but the other one 711 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: they want to win and we we already know what 712 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: he can for the exactly and so uh, I'm all 713 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: for it, you know, do whatever you have to do, 714 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, but. 715 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: To a certain extent, yes, yes, right, like to me 716 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: at this stage to give a ball said, I need 717 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: to have it be a high end, high end guy. 718 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: And Trotech's good, don't get me wrong, but there is 719 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: a possibility of being able to get a game. 720 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 4: Changer at some point in the next year or two. 721 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: And if you had another game changer to caprice Off 722 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: and Boldy and Quinnesota, you had a fourth in there, 723 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: there might not be many teams that can match that 724 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So it's to me it's still at what cost. 725 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: I'd love to get tro Check, but at what cost? 726 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: Or I'd love to get somebody else, but at what cost? 727 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: Because there might be another window in the next couple 728 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: of years. 729 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: Speaking of prospects, headline Bobby Nightingale, he writes. 730 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 3: Fish Wrap Factory, west Side Beat writer Twins. 731 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: Twins prospect Walker Jenkins sideline in spring camp because of 732 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: a hammy injury. 733 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: You've got to be kidding me. 734 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: He's staying in grade one left Hammy Stranger in his 735 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: only played appearance, trying to beat out at a ground 736 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: ball double play. 737 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 3: This team has now been bitten by the injury. 738 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: Brog early on. We lost Lopez for the year. Looks 739 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: like fest is out a couple of months and fifteen 740 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: what or did that just fifteen? 741 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 742 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: I read in the story that it could they think 743 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: it's posing change. Yes, so maybe it's fifteen, David, that's 744 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: it said, possibly months. And then we know that Royce 745 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: lewis out of how did they phrase that? Out of 746 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: an excessive no caution caution? Yeah, abundant over over abundance 747 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: of caution. They pulled them out when he kind of 748 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: pulled up a little lame running out a bass hit 749 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: or a ground ball or whatever. 750 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: Now, Jenkins, I feel like trying to run out of 751 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: double play is like your prototypical Twins injury. 752 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 753 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Right, it's another injury on the base pass and it's 754 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: another injury in a failing situation. 755 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: Jenkins, top rated Twins prospect, attempted to beat out a 756 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: ground ball double play in the eighth inning against the 757 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: Red Sox. 758 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 3: He played one more happening in center. 759 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: The manager of the Shelton character says it'll be down 760 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: for a bit for me to give you a I'm 761 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: not going to do that, but we had some imaging 762 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: today and that's what we came up with, and with 763 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: a team that's not very deep and at any position really. 764 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: Except again there, I'm looking for it now. 765 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: I was frantically searching for it when you were talking 766 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: prospects for the Wild, because I was immediately going to 767 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: shift to prospects. So the terms that you're saying the 768 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: Wild don't have it, did you say they don't have 769 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: a ton of prospects. 770 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they've traded given them all right, 771 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: Quinn Hughes costs a lot because. 772 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 2: The Twins story I saw and I can't find it now, 773 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: but it basically we're never going to have to draft 774 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: a picture again or sign anybody because we've got eight 775 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: or nine pictures. 776 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: I mean the list I think Dan Hayes wrote in 777 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: The Athletic today. 778 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it was where it's like, there's like nine pictures 779 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: that have all this spectacular upside. 780 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 4: And they probably do it. 781 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: And you know, you can only and I'm not blaming Hayes, 782 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: you can only write, you know, it's it's it's the 783 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: job a sports writer. You go to the people that 784 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: that operate, the team owner, GM, manager, minor league guy, 785 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: and you go, what do you got and what are 786 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: they gonna they're gonna sell you hope, Oh. 787 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe the guys we got. 788 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: Wait, we got nine guys that could pitch in the 789 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: big leagues right now. 790 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 3: That's how good they are. And then you look at 791 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 3: some of them. 792 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: You know, some of them haven't ever pitched in the 793 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: big leagues, but they're going to be part of the 794 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: rotation someday. And it's not just the pitching rotation. Here's 795 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: another story that I stumbled across. This is an athletic 796 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: one because Dan Hayes. See if it's Hayes or if 797 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: it's Gleaming, hold on, give me a second. 798 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: It's Hayes. 799 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 2: Twins have a trio of outfield prospects waiting in the wings. 800 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 3: Target field could be next. 801 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Rodriguez, Walker Jenkins and Gabriel Gonzales are already comfortable 802 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: playing in the same outfield. Is target fields on the 803 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: horizon and it basically. 804 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 4: Says Lining twenty twenty, it's the Silver Lions. 805 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: It says, this is what Dan writes, they're on the 806 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: verge of reaching the big leagues, expecting to be in 807 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: the season only twenty minutes away from target field. 808 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: As they close in on achieving their dreams. 809 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: A trio of Minnesota Twins triple A outfield prospects is 810 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: focused on making developmental strides to better prepare themselves. Even so, 811 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: you need to squint very hard to see a time 812 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 2: in the near future where Emmanuel Rodriguez, Walker Jenkins, and 813 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: Gabriel Gonzales are all patrolling the Twins outfield. 814 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: They're basically all going to be there together. 815 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: And they all have their upsides, you know, hit for power, 816 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 2: average run, you know. And not each guy is scouted 817 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: exactly like that. They're not all like a clone, and you. 818 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: Know, and again you can only go with what the 819 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: scouts tell you. 820 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 2: And I suppose you look at some of the numbers 821 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: they've produced in the in you know, single A, double A, 822 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: wherever they've played. 823 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 4: But it is that you've heard me say this a lot. 824 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 2: And even though I don't like to repeat myself often 825 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: do it's the old what do you have six players 826 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: all have a good season, then as you're projecting the next. 827 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 3: Year, you go, boy, they're all probably going to be 828 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: better than that life. No, no, no, no, don't work that way. 829 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: Usually two guys might get better, two guys stay the same, 830 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: two guys regress. That's the same thing with these guys. 831 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you have all these prospects, eight or nine 832 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: starting pitchers, or at least guys that are predicted to 833 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: be starters might end up being in a bullpen, and 834 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: you've got these three outfielders. 835 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 3: There's another outfielder. 836 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: Guy. Did you read the story about astro physicist guy, Well, 837 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: this is I don't. We're about to embark on a 838 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: renaissance of Twins baseball if you believe some of these stories. 839 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: Where's the hell is? Yeah, this is Alan road and 840 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 2: this is Bobby Nightingale. Alan Roaden, who picked baseball over astrophysics, 841 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 2: becoming big part of Twins future. 842 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: He has an unorthodox batting stance. 843 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: A lefty hitter starts with his bat flat on his 844 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: shoulder until the pitcher's set on the mount with a 845 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 2: slightly open stance. He raises his front leg as the 846 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: pitcher starts a delivery, bringing his right knet almost at 847 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 2: any degree angle as he drifts it toward the plate 848 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: before launching into his swing in an era that doesn't 849 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 2: have many unique batting stands, as like Craig Council, Kevin Euculus, 850 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: rod cru Now we're comparing him to Counsel. 851 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 4: Eucalus and rod Cruz already Rodent concenes. 852 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: It may look weird or robotic, and maybe that's fitting 853 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: for Rodent, son of two scientists who entered college dreaming 854 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: of becoming an astronomer more than a professional baseball player. Now, 855 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 2: Shelton says, he's short stock. He kind of built like 856 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: a fullback. He's five eleven and two hundred and fifty 857 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: fifteen pound outfielder. His career three zero two hitters, though 858 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: on the miners tend to me has the potential hit 859 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: fifteen homers in a season. He walks as much as 860 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 2: he strikes out. Roden said, it's un orthodox. We're just 861 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: trying our best here, doing what we can with what 862 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: we've got. So it almost sounds like Shelton's saying, well, 863 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 2: I got a mold and shape this guy a little bit. 864 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: But apparently this Rodent guy can play a little baseball. 865 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 2: He we got him when we traded Louis, when we 866 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: traded Viarlin that's how we got this guy, you know. 867 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 4: And again. 868 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 2: We all pretty much pillar read the Twins for the 869 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: for the for the bonfire right they the fire sale right, 870 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: for all the you know, all the bullpen. 871 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 3: Gone, everybody gone. Louis Viarlin included. 872 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: H but and and and and I and then look 873 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: that should I I don't blame people for having that, 874 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: as their initial initial reaction was mine as well. But 875 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: the proof becomes of who do the players that they 876 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: received in return, these so called prospects, how many of 877 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: them will pan out? 878 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: That's that's obviously, that's the whole trick. And if this 879 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: Roadent kid says. 880 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 2: The Twins acquired the twenty years of road Lance along 881 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: with class Triple A starter Kenry Rojas. 882 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 3: And Rojas is another one of those guys that was 883 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: listed in the. 884 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: Nine ten pictures that that are going to be part 885 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 2: of the Twins rotation forever for reliever Louis Louis viarlind 886 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: A road So we got two guys. It's a triple 887 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: A pitcher and this Rodent guy. Now, if Rodent can, 888 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: if he can do a three to zero two batting 889 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: average in the big leagues and hit fifteen home runs, 890 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: and play solid outfield. 891 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 4: That's worth Rudy var that. 892 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 3: That's that's worth it right there. 893 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 2: Then if you add the ROAs kit and he can 894 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: be a picture of some ill repute, well then then 895 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 2: then it's a good trade. Right now, it still doesn't 896 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: look like one. But we're loaded with prospects with the Twins, 897 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: that's all I know. 898 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: Well you should be when you give away half of 899 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: your major league roster in one season. 900 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: And here's what I'll say, it's really making me feel 901 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 2: like I should buy tickets to the Saint Paul Saints 902 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: game because that's where you got your best team. The 903 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: Saints are going to be a better team than the Twins, 904 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: at least on paper. Tend Thanks for having me you 905 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: as well. We enjoyed our visit with you today. But 906 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 2: stick around. We're back tomorrow one o'clock. Big ticket. 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