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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North Upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan Outdoors. Faithful, Yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations you have made it to yet another Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: But Katie bar the door is cold. It is I

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Speaker 2: think this is the coldest day we have had this year,

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Speaker 2: and it's been plenty cold. I was outside, goodness, I

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Speaker 2: was outside the other day. What I was doing. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we were getting Eric's fishouse out of the yard stuff

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Speaker 2: and snowblowing. It felt like it was below zero. Then,

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Speaker 2: well we have managed that right now. And that's all

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say about it. I'm not gonna whine,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna complain. I'm not going to talk about

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Speaker 2: how long it will be until spring. Nope. On this

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth day of December, we are about not quite

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Speaker 2: halfway through the month. Gosh, and it is. It is

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Speaker 2: the last weekend of the Minnesota Firearm muzzleloader deer season,

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Speaker 2: and I may be goinging sound a little trepidation in

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Speaker 2: my voice. I may I might be going. I know

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Speaker 2: that Eric and Chad are after me to go, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I have hunted in the past in

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Speaker 2: My father had no interest, zero interest in going along,

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Speaker 2: but my mother, bless her heart, she insisted that he

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Speaker 2: want anything to do with that kind of weather. And

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that the truck would start, but evidently

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Speaker 2: And vehicles are much better, but this guy, I don't

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it ends up. I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a little bit less cold. Of course, when

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Speaker 2: it really doesn't. But that being said, you know I

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Speaker 4: It's time for this week span outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Do has aup Fance post. This is a good nominee also,

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Speaker 2: and you might think it has something to do with

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Speaker 2: my producer Brett Blakemore, But who is going to travel

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Speaker 2: what they very fondly refer to as a bit And

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Speaker 2: it's a good one. But I don't know, man, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that boy from Des Moines has ever

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Speaker 2: That will just kind of shake his fillings in his

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Speaker 3: That's say, you bring a winter coat in the car

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Speaker 2: You better bring more than a winter coat. You better

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Speaker 2: accused of illegally bagging moose in northeastern Minnesota. All right, accused,

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Speaker 2: So he hasn't been convicted. However, however, so the story

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Speaker 2: This guy went, and he's in his mid thirties. This

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Speaker 2: when he saw the antlers being a deer hunter. Being

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Speaker 2: saw only the antlers. The idiot that he should have

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Speaker 2: He could have killed somebody because when he got over there,

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Speaker 2: it was a moose. Now, there are some pretty stark

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Speaker 2: Uh huh. They are. Well, he's going to go to trial,

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Speaker 2: I think in February. But there should be a trial.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just put that guy someplace where he can

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Speaker 2: he gives every bad every hunter a bad name everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing no excuse. Along with the fact that the

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Speaker 2: And it had to be a bull because of its

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Speaker 2: just shot at ears and wasn't whatever. But the moose

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Speaker 2: they have, the population of moose is a little over

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Speaker 2: four thousand animals. You take one out of four grand

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Speaker 2: and that's that's a fair number. But what can you say?

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Speaker 2: Would you want him hunting next to you? I'll just

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Speaker 2: leave it at that. Would you want that man hunting

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Speaker 2: a fair amount of money and then some. But for

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Speaker 2: that gentleman, take a firearm safety course, would you please?

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Speaker 2: If you took it, take it again and have somebody

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Speaker 2: teaching the course. That makes damn sure you know what

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Speaker 2: this morning, Stan Tequila is going to join us, and

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Speaker 2: he's going to join us well in about five minutes,

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Speaker 2: so we'll leave it at that. He just got back

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Speaker 2: about that. And along with the holiday season, I have

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Speaker 2: bought and purchased a number of books for my grandkids

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Speaker 2: that are authored by Stan Tequila and for Jack, my

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Speaker 2: and that one was dog eared, some of the pages

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Speaker 2: hold on to your moose as the case maybe, and

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Speaker 2: don't let him get shot by the knucklehead. All right,

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Speaker 2: We will be right back with more after this.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist

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Speaker 4: and photographer Stan Tequila. Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska, or Africa,

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Speaker 4: he's always in search of all things.

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Speaker 1: Wild and natural.

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Speaker 4: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves.

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Speaker 2: And you thought the cat knew the Outdoors.

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Speaker 4: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on Fan Outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Good morning? I'm good, Already at the desk, already working hard,

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Speaker 3: already got about fourteen things going all at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Well, and do any of them include the same clothing

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Speaker 2: you're going to wear this weekend for your trip last week?

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Speaker 3: Isn't this nice?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: So so last week at this time, I was in

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Speaker 2: What was What were the temperatures when you were down there?

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Speaker 2: What typically are they?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's an interesting question because Costa Rica is a

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Speaker 2: Well how does a person stand? How do you plan

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Speaker 3: be able to interact with them and see them and

432
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: learn about them, that's the big thing. So as soon

433
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: as you learn about these things, You're like, wow, isn't

434
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: nature amazing because here's these tiny little frogs that have

435
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: this amazing power, you know. And or these vipers too,

436
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: the pit vipers who who sense the world through these

437
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 3: heat seeking you know, pits on their face and they

438
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: can kind of sense what's around them. And learning about

439
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: this seeing these things in person up close, this is

440
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: this is really something?

441
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: Are you the educator on these trips too?

442
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: We always have a local guide with us, so it's

443
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: a combination of me and the local guide. So our

444
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: local guide and we generally speaking at each location we

445
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: have a different person and they will and then we

446
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: have a local driver who drives us everywhere. Because you

447
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: don't want to be driving in Costa Rica. It's really

448
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: I've done it. It's not fun. And so now now

449
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: it's like, nope, we're all in one bus and we're

450
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: all together, and we have one local driver who knows

451
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: his way around everywhere and takes us around and you know,

452
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: and he lives there, so any situation that you get into,

453
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: he's there to take care of it. And so these

454
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: are really great trips. They're well fought out and there

455
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: I've put a lot of time and effort into these

456
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: trips to make them work.

457
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: And now you're talking, you talk about the thousands of

458
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: images you're taking. Now I know you come back and

459
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: edit them. Do you do your guests take as many

460
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: images and do they do some of their editing in

461
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: the evenings or do they just take all the picure

462
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: not maybe that not that many pictures and are more critical.

463
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: It's a combination of that. Some are like some of

464
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: them will download to their laptops and then work up

465
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: a few of them and put them on their phones

466
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: and then show them the next day. So there's a

467
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: handful of us that do that every day. I did

468
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: the same thing. And then some people didn't even bring laptops.

469
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: They just you know, they just hang on to their

470
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: pictures and do it all when they get home. So

471
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: it's really a combination of things like that. And there's

472
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: really no rules to this stuff. You do whatever you

473
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: like to do, and you know, there's no expectations or

474
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: anything like that. Now, having said that, on this trip,

475
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: I was able to photograph two species of bird I've

476
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: never seen before, So that was pretty darn exciting. And

477
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: perhaps I can tell you a story about one.

478
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on to the break. We'll take a break

479
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: and then we'll come back and look forward to that. Okay,

480
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: sounds good, wonderful. Our guest is mister Stan Tequila, if

481
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: you haven't figured that out, but we're talking about his

482
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: most recent trip to Costa Rica, and we will take

483
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: that pause and come back with two birds that even

484
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: stand doesn't know. And I'll tell you what I have

485
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: tried for years to ask that man a question and

486
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: him tell me that he's never seen that before and

487
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: it's never happened. So this will be good. Hold on,

488
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after this. We're back, fan out

489
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: or is coming your way until the eight o'clock hour,

490
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: Your truly, Billy Hildebrand is in studio at KFA and

491
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: World had headquarters, my producer, my trustee producer, which I

492
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: really really lean on a lot, and he's done a

493
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: great job for us. Is Brett blakemore? Mister Brett blakemore

494
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: to me? So we will do. So we'll begin another

495
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: segment with mister Stan Tequila, who is just returned from

496
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: a trip to Costa Rica and we're talking about it. Stan,

497
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: you sent me some photographs that are absolutely stunning, just

498
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, gracious. The waterfall that looks very very

499
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: appealing with below zero temperatures right now.

500
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I have no idea.

501
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: There's just no idea. And the critters that looks like

502
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: monkeys below that, yep, and they've got a ball spot

503
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: on the top of their head.

504
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: No, it's just dark for oh okay, it's just dark

505
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: for on them like that. Those are white face capuchin

506
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: monkeys and they are a very small monkey. We saw both,

507
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: and we saw and photograph both howler monkeys and these

508
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: white face monkeys, and they're adorable. They're tiny little things

509
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: and there they you know, really don't have a whole

510
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: lot of fear of people, and so they were they

511
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: would come up to us and you know, but they

512
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: were also you can see I sent you some pictures

513
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: that have babies with them, and so they're all very adorable.

514
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: How far are they as wild as some of the

515
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: animals that we come across now that you don't see

516
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: them very often.

517
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 3: They're they you know, they move around a lot, So

518
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: sometimes you see them a lot and sometimes you don't,

519
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: depending on where they're at where the ripe fruit is at,

520
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: because they follow the trees around that have the ripe fruit.

521
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: On it, and so they'll go to these trees, find

522
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: the ripe fruit, and spend time there. At one of

523
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: the lodges we stayed at, the monkeys would show up

524
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: very specifically for early morning when it was you know,

525
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: dark and starting to get a little bit light, because

526
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: there was a fruit tree and for the life mean,

527
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the fruit right now,

528
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: they told me, and I'd never even heard of it before,

529
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: but uh. And they would go and they would take

530
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: the fruit and they would eat it. They'd pop it

531
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: off the tree, they would open it up and they

532
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: would just eat the insides of it. But then as

533
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: soon as like the people started waking up and started

534
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: coming out and we're all like, oh cool, look at

535
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: the monkeys, they were all like, we're out of here,

536
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, and they would they would head out because

537
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, they're wary of people. Do they live in colonies, Yes, yeah, absolutely.

538
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: They're all together and they have you know, adults with babies,

539
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: and they're usually ten twenty at the most, you know,

540
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: in one troop.

541
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: So with a pair bond a male and female monkey together,

542
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: are they bonded for just that particular season or do

543
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: they look for different mates.

544
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: It's a combination depending on what species he are looking at,

545
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: and they are kind of switch it up and move around.

546
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: And there's one male with several females, so it's a

547
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: polgamous type situation. He gets in trouble a lot, I'll bet.

548
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: And then I see a black hummingbird.

549
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Well it's not black, it's it's a deep violet. This

550
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: is a This is called the violet saber wing. This

551
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: is a very large hummingbird, maybe twice the size of

552
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: what you know we normally see in our ruby throats.

553
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: It's a very large thing. It's called a saber wing

554
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: because it has a wing that's kind of sharp pointed

555
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: like a saber, and has a slightly curved bill, and

556
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: it goes to different flowers, and it's very large hummingbird,

557
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, And so it's when you see it,

558
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: it's like, oh wow, that really catches your eye. You know,

559
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: the males are all that violet color, and then the

560
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: females are kind of a lighter version version of that.

561
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: So when with like the red and I recall wearing

562
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: one of the first times hummingbirds came to the lake

563
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 2: with the feeder walking down the lake with a bright

564
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: red hat on and I had one over again hovering

565
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: and I almost fell off the I mean, I had

566
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: no idea what was going on. Out of the wise, it

567
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: is going to be dead pretty quick.

568
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, these guys do the same exact thing

569
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: all the kind of thing. Even if you don't, they

570
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: just want to come over and check you out. These

571
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: hummingbirds are like they're so tiny, but they've got enormous

572
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: attitudes and enormous curiosity and they're always looking around for

573
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: different things.

574
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Wow. Do people feed those over there?

575
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, hummingbird feeding there is massive. You know, they

576
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: put out ten fifteen feeders at one location all the time,

577
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: and they'll they'll drain those those feeders in one day's time.

578
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: Well they do. They eat the same like a sugar.

579
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: Watery same exact yep, you know, one quarter sugar to

580
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: water ratio and they yeah, they really go at it.

581
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: It's the same. It's the same, you know, basic thing

582
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: that they do here.

583
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, Now below that is a little yellow with

584
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: black shoulders and white.

585
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: So this is again I think I put this on

586
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: social media so people can see this. This is a

587
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: white collared mannequin. These mannequins are small little birds about

588
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: the size of a wren, maybe a little bit bigger,

589
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: maybe about a chickenee size, And so you're familiar with

590
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: things like sharp tail grouse and greater prairie chickens. Right where,

591
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: the males all get together and on what's called a

592
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: lek elie k, and they display, they dance for females.

593
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: These little mannequins clear a small spot about three foot

594
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: by three foot on the jungle floor. They clear it

595
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: all themselves. They have small little sapling trees coming up.

596
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: And then these males display on a lek for the females.

597
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: And these little guys here, when they fly, they click

598
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: their wings together, so you hear this snap this little

599
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: and then it goes and then it flies to the

600
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: next perch, which is about three feet away, and then

601
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: snap again. It goes to the next one, and snap

602
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: again and goes the next one. And it does it

603
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: very quickly, and they play and they dance for females

604
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: to come and watch them on their lek. So so

605
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: this lecking behavior is not just for our big grouse.

606
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: It's you know, also found in other species of birds too.

607
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: So this this is a white collared mannequin, and these

608
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: mannequins are so neat when they do this a lot.

609
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: Most of the mannequins are brightly colored. They all will

610
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: clear the males will clear out a small leck in

611
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: the jungle on the on the jungle floor, and it's

612
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: it's really something to see. And that is the first

613
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 3: of the two species that I had never seen before

614
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: that I got a chance to not only see, but

615
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: to photograph this year.

616
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: Are they popular.

617
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: Yes, they're very popular. They're very not very common though.

618
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: They're only found at certain elevations about four thousand foot elevation,

619
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: and so they've got to find them very specific habitats,

620
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: very specific elevations, and then you have to get into

621
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: the jungle to find them, because these leks are set up,

622
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, wherever the ma wants to set them up,

623
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: so then you have to kind of discover them, find them.

624
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: So they live right in that location. They won't migrate

625
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: or anything.

626
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: Why I don't know right exactly. Yeah, why would you leave?

627
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: You're in the you're in paradise basically, yeah.

628
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, And then I got underneath that one. There are

629
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: some more hummingbirds, but they they've got a much different

630
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: of bright green.

631
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are yeah, these are the violet eared hummingbirds

632
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 3: and these are the high altitude over eight thousand foot

633
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: elevation hummingbirds. So these birds are hardy, they're big, and

634
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: they you know, they're they have to feed constantly because

635
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: the temperatures are always cold. Rarely does it ever warm up.

636
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: It rains often, it's it's cold in these higher elevations,

637
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: and so it's it's pretty pretty unique hummingbirds for sure.

638
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they go lower where.

639
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: It's warmer, Well, because they all evolved to be in

640
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: specific regions and they kind of there's less competition there.

641
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: There's you know, that's where they find there, you know,

642
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: the food that they want, those types of things. So

643
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: and it's all it's all based in evolution.

644
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, but the flowers, the flowers they live up at

645
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: that temperature and that height too.

646
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Huh m, yep, there's lots of flowers at that temperature too.

647
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just below that, I'm looking at a green frog.

648
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: Is that the nasty guy?

649
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: Depending on which green frog it is. Red, that's the

650
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: red eyed tree frog. That's the ultimate species that you

651
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: want to see when you're in Costa Rica. The red

652
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: eyed tree frog is a large tree frog. Obviously it

653
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: has red eyes, excuse me, and this is a super

654
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 3: cool They stick to just about anything, so they'll jump

655
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: and they grab a hold of leaves. They crawl around there.

656
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: They're arboreal. They're found up in trees. And then what

657
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: they do is they get over the top of ponds,

658
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: small little wetland areas. Males and females will make together.

659
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: It's a external fertilization. Those fertilized eggs will drop down

660
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: into the water down below. So though very specifically, excuse me,

661
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: set up just over this water, drop their eggs down

662
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: in the water. Those eggs will then go into tadpoles.

663
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: Tadpoles will transform into the frogs. Frogs come out of

664
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: the water, and we have more red eye tree frogs.

665
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: So they're the they're kind of like the ones that

666
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: everybody wants to see. So sorry about that.

667
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Are those quite? That's fine? Are they quite an infamous frog?

668
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: Or is that desire?

669
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: No? No, that's everybody. It's like everybody wants to see

670
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: red eye tree frogs. It's kind of like the thing

671
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: that everybody wants to see when they're there.

672
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, then below it is a looks like a kind

673
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: of a light green, a white green and black spotted frog.

674
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: That is a black and green poisoned dart frog. This

675
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 3: this again, this frog is only about one inch in length,

676
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: so about it maybe as long as a little bit

677
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: longer than your thumbnail. And it is a tiny little

678
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: little frogs. But thecings. Again, you know, you handle them

679
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: and then touch your mouth or something like that with them,

680
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: or you're get injected somehow with the with the poison

681
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: on their skin, and you will. It'll be a problem

682
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: for you. We will kill an individual. Yes, if you

683
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: get enough of it. Yeah, I can. Huh, what the heck?

684
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: I guess I'm all excited. My voice is getting on

685
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: a goofy.

686
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: I understand, that's okay. It looks like a robin next

687
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: and yeah, but I doubt whether it is unless I'm wrong.

688
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were definitely wrong. This is the second species

689
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: I'd never seen before. This is called an scaled ant pitta.

690
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Oh a n T p I T T A ant pitta.

691
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: So one night I'm walking across this bridge. We're staying

692
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: at a lodge, and we're walking across this bridge, and

693
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: a gentleman that works at this lodge, who I've known

694
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: for years because I go back to the same lodge

695
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: all the time. His name is Mario. Mario comes out

696
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: of the dark. It's it's almost five pm, so it's

697
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: getting dark, comes out of the dark, grabs me by

698
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: the arm and says he has very little English. I

699
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: have basically no Spanish. And he's like, come on, come on,

700
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: and he's telling me aunt pitta. I said, an ant

701
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: pitta and he's like, yeah, aunt pitta. And I was like, oh,

702
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: I know what these birds are. I've never seen one,

703
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: but I know what they are. They are a nocturnal

704
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: bird that is kind of a tear drop shape without

705
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: much of a tail at all, and they feed on ants.

706
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: And so he's like, when we go into this deep

707
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: jungle part where they grow orchids at this lodge and

708
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 3: he comes in and he's like, you know, real quiet,

709
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: real quiet. And he comes in and he squats down

710
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: to the ground, kind of drags me down with him,

711
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: you know, and it gives me the quite, you know.

712
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: And we're sitting there and he's like giving me hand signals.

713
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: He's given me the finger up for us to stand up.

714
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: As we're walking along ever so slowly, like one step,

715
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: very slowly in front of the others. We don't make

716
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: no noise at all, and all of a sudden he'd

717
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: clench a fist, mean, freeze, you know, right there, and

718
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: we'd freeze and then gotta get down. So we'd get

719
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: down again. And this goes on for like twenty minutes.

720
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm following him through the jungle and we're and he's like,

721
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: all right, back up, you know. We take a couple

722
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: of steps, freeze, you know, down again. We look and

723
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 3: it's dark, you know, and so we're looking and looking,

724
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: looking and look, couldn't find the darn thing. So I said,

725
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: I kind of I have an app on my phone

726
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: where I can translate English to Spanish and all that.

727
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to go around the backside over here.

728
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: I'll see you out out, you know, out front at

729
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: some point and he's like, okay, So I'm now going

730
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 3: along by myself, trying to find this thing. Very dim light,

731
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 3: very very dim light, and all of a sudden, again

732
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: he pops out of the darkness. I never even saw

733
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: him coming, stan Stan, come on, you know. So we

734
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: literally go kind of half running across this you know,

735
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: jungle floor to this area and he stops and he's

736
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: pointing to the general area where it's at. I'm like,

737
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: you know, where is this? Where is this? And I'm looking,

738
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking and looking at and finally it runs. These

739
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: birds are terrestrial. It runs out into the clearing in

740
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: front of us, and I get my first look at it,

741
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: lnt Pito. I was like, ho, Lee mackerel, this is amazing.

742
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: I tried to get some pictures of it. Did not

743
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: work because I wasn't prepared for this. He I was

744
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: coming back in from a hike and he just grabbed

745
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: me and you know, dragged me into the jungle there.

746
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: So I wasn't ready for that at all. But I

747
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: got a good look at it. I got a blurry

748
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: picture of it, and I thought, well, okay, I got

749
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: a blurry picture. That's better than nothing at all. So

750
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: then the next night I decided I'm going to go out.

751
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: So I said to my group, who wants to go

752
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: look for this crazy, unusual bird and you know, and

753
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: of course nobody wanted to come. Really yeah, except for

754
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: one woman. She's the one from South Africa, and she's like,

755
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: I'll go. I said, great. So we went, same thing,

756
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: except now this time I'm in the lead kind of

757
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: trying to find this thing. We get to the far

758
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: end of this this orchid growing area, and I look

759
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: and I go, what is that? I can't see it.

760
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: This time, I've got a flashlight. This time, I have

761
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: a flash on my camera. I've mounted a flash onto

762
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: my camera. And I'm like, I see a shape over there.

763
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: It looks like the shape of a bird, but it's not.

764
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: But let's look at it anyhouse. I look, No, I

765
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: don't think, so turn off a light. I thought. I

766
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: looked at it in the dark again. I said, well,

767
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: you know, that's the same shape. That's that's the shape

768
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: I need to have, you know. And so then I

769
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: clicked on the light again, stepped up by another five

770
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: feet closer, and went, oh, my gosh, that's it. That's

771
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: the bird. So I'm having this gal hold my flashlight

772
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: while I'm trying in the dark to get focused. And

773
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: then was able to get off a couple images with

774
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: my flash going off, and you're seeing one of them there,

775
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: and I got a picture of the scaled ant pitta.

776
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: I was so thrilled with that that I got nice sharp,

777
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: clear images of this, you know, highly nocturnal bird that's

778
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: very secretive, and so I was pretty excited about that.

779
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: The very next day, I took one of those images,

780
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: worked it up, and I sent it to my good

781
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: friend who lives in Arizona, who has been a lifelong burder.

782
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: And he's the one guy that when I'm around him,

783
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I know nothing about nature, absolutely nothing. Okay,

784
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: I send it to him. His name is Rick. I said, Rick,

785
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: look look at this. I didn't say what it was.

786
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: And he text back to me immediately, which he never does,

787
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: text back to me immediately, and says, is that a

788
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: scaled aunt pitta? I said, yep. And the next one

789
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: is I've been looking for that bird for over fifty years,

790
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And I was like wow. He's like,

791
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: where did you see this? Where I must go? So

792
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: that was that was kind of like the icing on

793
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: the cake. I was like my good friend who again,

794
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 3: like I say, he makes me feel like I don't

795
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: know anything about nature, and he and there he was like,

796
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: I've been looking for one of them for over fifty years.

797
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: Did stand takuila Puffi's chest out and said I got it.

798
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: I got it.

799
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: It was more like I'll tell you exactly where it's at.

800
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: Well, we have to take a pause. Stand. Can you

801
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: stay with me yet?

802
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

803
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: Excellent, We'll take that pause. And if you've got an

804
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: aunt Petta in your life, you better share it with Stan. Okay,

805
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: we'll be right back. We are back Fan outdoors, coming

806
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: your way, Billy Hildebrand Here, My guest is mister Stan Tequila.

807
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: We're talking. Oh, this is so fun. We're talking about

808
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: his most recent trip to Costa Rica with some absolutely

809
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: incredible animals that I had never ant Petta. If you

810
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: heard of an aunt Peta, you're a better person than

811
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: I because I never have. But it looks pretty cool.

812
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: And the next image that I'd say picture, but I

813
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: know you refer to them as images, so I'm just

814
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: trying to sack like I'm smart, but I'm really not. Anyway,

815
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: The next one looks like an owl to me.

816
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a striped owl. It's about the size,

817
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: shape and coloring of a great horned owl, but it's

818
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: a different species, and it's a jungle species. There are

819
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: so many. There's like twelve or fifteen different owl species

820
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: found in the tropics there too, which you know, you

821
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: don't think of the tropics and owls you know, they don't.

822
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: They don't seem to go together, but they do, and

823
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: so that's kind of that's kind of a cool thing

824
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: to see.

825
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: Are they that they have the same behavior as owls

826
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: in America?

827
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely identical. You know. They do all the same exact

828
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: types of.

829
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: Things, hooing too or hooting. Yep.

830
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: They have different types of hoots, different types of calls,

831
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: you know. So they're very very simple.

832
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: Huh interesting The next one, oh, the great horn owl.

833
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: They'll be nesting in not too distant future, won't they.

834
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm glad you've said that, because about

835
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: a month or so ago, I set up a camera

836
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: on my great horn owl nest. And so right now

837
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: I'm live streaming each evening that I'm home, I'm live

838
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 3: streaming my flying squirrels. So people can go to nature

839
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: smart dot com scroll down to the bottom. You'll see

840
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: a link and it'll take you to my live stream

841
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: of flying squirrels in the evening. So right at sunset

842
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: is the best time. Soon as it gets start, that's

843
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: the best time to log in. You can see it.

844
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: I have two cameras set up and two things are

845
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: going starting soon hopefully whenever these my great horn owls

846
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: start to nest, I'm going to have a live feed

847
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: the buttons there. You can see it when you go

848
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: to nature smart dot com. And so hopefully sometime in

849
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: January February, when my great horn owl start to nest,

850
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: I will have a streaming service. Live streaming service. I'll

851
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: run that one probably twenty four hours a day and

852
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: so people can watch the great horn owl nest there.

853
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: So I got my fingers crossed. I saw that the

854
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: great horn owl before this latest snowfall here last week,

855
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: I saw the owl was checking out the nest. So

856
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 3: I've got high hopes that this will happen this year.

857
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: Do you have someplace on your live stream or on

858
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: your website that people can leave questions? You'd probably be

859
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: inundated with questions.

860
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: There's there's comments on when you when you click on

861
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: live streams, it will go to YouTube and then you

862
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: can leave comments there. And now and then I do

863
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: look at those all right.

864
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: Okay, the next image image then down below that, I

865
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: can't tell exactly what it is, but it looks like

866
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: a critter.

867
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of critters. It's like four or five

868
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: of them, six of them. These are white nose kuwati,

869
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: the white nose kawati are in them. Yeah, they're in

870
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: the raccoon family there. They hold their tails straight up

871
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: in the air like a like a doom buggy flag,

872
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: you know, and they're they're fluffy, and they got long

873
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: pointed noses. They climb trees, they go on the ground whatever.

874
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: You see groups of them together. They're always females with babies,

875
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: and males are always loners on their own, and so

876
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: these are they're think of a raccoon that's even more

877
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: fuzzy with a long monkey like tail. And that's what

878
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: you got for white nose kuwadi. They're pretty they're pretty

879
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 3: cool animals. We see them often on this type of trip.

880
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: We also had an opportunity we did see a tyra.

881
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: Tyras are a large, large weasel like the size of

882
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 3: a small dog weasel, so big and and they're jet black.

883
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: Everything on them is jet black, and they are impressive

884
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: looking animal, especially a black animal in the jungle. It's

885
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: really you know, kind of like because they come right

886
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: out of the shadows, so you don't even notice them

887
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, boom, they're there. And so

888
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: that's the second time I've actually come across tyras and

889
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: in the jungles of Costa Rica. Pretty cool, yeah, very cool.

890
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 2: All right, just below that one, they're green with super

891
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: long tails. If we talked about that.

892
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the resplendent katsel. The ketsells are these

893
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: unbelievable birds. I mean they are, I mean, just look

894
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: at them, about three feet long. Most of that is tail,

895
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 3: big long, gorgeous green and blue tails. Depending on which

896
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: way the light is shining, they're iridescent tail feathers. And

897
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: then they have a big the males have a big

898
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: red chest on them, and they're just it's the thing

899
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: you would go to Costa Rica for period. I mean

900
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: that and the red eyed tree frogs. Those are what

901
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: Costa Rica's kind of known for.

902
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: Do people have to do The locals worry about either

903
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: poachers or somebody stealing some of these birds and then

904
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: selling them.

905
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: I would say, I've not heard of anything like that.

906
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

907
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 3: These people make a living bringing you know, photographers to

908
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: these birds, so they will do just about anything to

909
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: protect them, do you know what I mean. They're they're like,

910
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna protect these things because it's their living, it's

911
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: their livelihoods, So they're telling Without them, you know, people

912
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: won't go. Yeah, so they're very they're very and they

913
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: take very good care of the environment. They do a

914
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: pretty n good job with things like that.

915
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's good to know. I mean, yeah, the respect shown,

916
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: if for all the right reasons, is pretty incredible too,

917
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: especially for and.

918
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you just on a personal note, when

919
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: you get out and go to different parts of the

920
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: world and you look around, I think it helps give

921
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: you the perspective you need to see things more clearly

922
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: when you get back home, because when you get there,

923
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 3: you see people are just like us there and they're

924
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: doing their they're making a living, they're working, they're you know,

925
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: having families. They have modern technology and a lot of

926
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: cases they have better technology. They've got Like just looking

927
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: at all the different vehicles. All the vehicles are different

928
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: than what we have here, every single one of them,

929
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 3: even though they're Chevies, they're Fords there. You know, there's

930
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: a Kyas and all the other name brands out there,

931
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: but they're all different and they're all doing something a

932
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: little different and they're all kind of designed differently to

933
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: work in that type of environment and all that and

934
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: It's just it gives you a better perspective of things,

935
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: and it kind of gets you out of your America

936
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: headspace and gets you into a more international headspace where

937
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: you think about things differently, and that's always a good thing.

938
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 3: And I noticed that when I was in Keto, Ecuador,

939
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: that it is a you know, they're super high end,

940
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, technologically advanced and all that stuff, and we

941
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: oftentimes think of, well, these other places like that, you know,

942
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: how could they possibly have what we have and leave me?

943
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: They got it? And then I'll and then some.

944
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: Interesting interesting That's yeah, I like that, And that's that's

945
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: crucial too. I believe for a lot of reasons, a

946
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: lot of obvious reasons that yeah, we can respect, at

947
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: least most people can respect. Mm hmm. Well that looks.

948
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Are you going to have this do you ever display,

949
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: like have a show or something, and or do you

950
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: use some of these images and some of the places

951
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: you've been or topics for your speaking engagements?

952
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: Some of them I do. In fact, let's see, I'll

953
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: be today later today, I'll be in so people can

954
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: join me today. Uh in socks Center, Oh really, Socks

955
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: Center Library.

956
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: My part of the world, Buddy.

957
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then later a couple of four or

958
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: five four hours later at that I'll be an Uppsala, Minnesota.

959
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: I knew a girl from up.

960
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: One, didn't we all and it's all be at the

961
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: I'll be at the Upsilla Library giving a talk there too.

962
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: So just checking with those two libraries as the times,

963
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: and you can come see me today. I'm giving a

964
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: couple of different talks.

965
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: Huh okay with topics. You don't know where we pick

966
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: one out her?

967
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: No, okay, never mind, I just can't remember here here

968
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: I'll look for you though.

969
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: Here.

970
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: Let's see, I'm talking about what am I talking about?

971
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: Fox Center, I'm talking about uh wolves, coyotes and foxes,

972
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: and in Uppsala, I'm talking about elk, moose and deer.

973
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: All right, holiday season right around the corner. I looked

974
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: on my U my Amazon feed. I have purchased an

975
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: awful lot of your books, buddy, and it's they are.

976
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: They're just so awesome and so fantastic. My grandkids absolutely

977
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: love them and tell us.

978
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: People should Yeah, people should remember. I also have books

979
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: for adults. So if you're interested in things like dear,

980
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: if you're interested in things like dear, elka, moose. I

981
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: have a book, a book just on deer, elk and moose,

982
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: which is pretty arm cool for adults. And I wrote

983
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: it in a way in which you're going to learn

984
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: all the biology of these things, but in a non

985
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: scientific way, in a way that you can understand. Same

986
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: thing with wolves, coyotes and foxes, same thing with eagles, owls.

987
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: Let's see what else I've got. I just got a

988
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: bunch of different things like that. Again. You can go

989
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: to nature smart dot com uh and go to the

990
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: bookstore and you can see things there, or go to Amazon,

991
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, and you can just type in my name

992
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: and you'll and you'll see the lots of books for

993
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: adults too.

994
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: All right, So you're telling me to start thinking like

995
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: an adult for a change, Is that what you're telling me?

996
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, treat yourself. Treat yourself to something more of you know,

997
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: less kids and.

998
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: More adults you know. And I respect that a great deal.

999
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: But I also stand one of my im the important

1000
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: things that I want to happen. I want my grandkids

1001
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: to appreciate nature and not and have that at their disposal.

1002
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: And it's beginning to happen. Yeah, And I congratulate you,

1003
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: because you're the one that's really making it happen. And

1004
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: it's really fun because I think they have fun having

1005
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 2: a conversation, yeah, with somebody that cares about it too.

1006
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: And at first they're just intrigued by the photographs, but

1007
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: then they start to ask pictures, ask questions, and I'm

1008
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: so thankful for that. And your memory game coming up.

1009
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to be playing that a whole

1010
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: bunch come Christmas morning.

1011
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: And you know what, considering the age of some of us,

1012
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: a memory game is not so bad.

1013
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: You know what's your name again?

1014
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1015
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: Thanks Frank, No, I understand that, believe me. Yes. And

1016
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: but anyway, we are just about are we going to

1017
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: be out of time or just break? Okay, thank you

1018
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: very much. We have to break. Stan. We'll be right back. Okay,

1019
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: sounds good, wonderful Stan Tequila, that's his name. Nature smart

1020
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: dot com is where you find a lot of his

1021
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: work and his images and the memory game too. We'll

1022
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: be right back. We will be back with a bonus

1023
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: bonus segment with stand Tequila, and right up front, I

1024
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: want to say thank you so very very much. I

1025
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: appreciate that.

1026
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: We Merry Christmas.

1027
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: Same to you. It's gonna be white. I'm predicting that.

1028
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: I think you got a pretty good, pretty good chance

1029
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna win that.

1030
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: One, much to my chagrin. And I think there's more

1031
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: storms coming in. Well anyway, that's another story. But uh,

1032
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: my train okay, my train of thought just took off.

1033
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: You mentioned the the great horned owls and your cameras

1034
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: other other critters that. Well, I guess bald eagles will

1035
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: nest in the in the cold, don't they or not?

1036
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, this is so. Starting in January is the

1037
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 3: beginning of the great horn owl nesting season. They're the

1038
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: very first birds that start nesting. By the way, they're

1039
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: like the first birds that start nesting, even in the

1040
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: Southern States. So January or so, they will start looking,

1041
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: they'll find mates, and they will start finding a territory,

1042
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: exploring nesting options. Now, keep in mind that great horn

1043
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: owls do not build a nest. They take They simply

1044
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: take over an existing nest. And so what I did

1045
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: was five years ago, for whatever it was, four or five,

1046
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,479
Speaker 3: five years ago, coming up on the fifth year. Now,

1047
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 3: I built a three foot by three foot box basically

1048
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: that I made it out of two by sixes, pressure

1049
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: treated two by sixes, put a some like chicken wire

1050
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: underneath it, actually hardware cloth, heavy duty, and then filled

1051
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: it with some grasses and sticks and things like that,

1052
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: screwed it all in place, so like that, and I

1053
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: put it up in a tree because I saw great

1054
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: horn owls hanging around, and I put it up in

1055
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 3: a tree. It's right at thirty feet high, so it's

1056
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: up fairly high. Yeah, and I and then I put

1057
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: it up in the fall, and that very first winter, Bam,

1058
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: I had great horn owls testing in it, just like that,

1059
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: And they've been nesting in it every winter since then,

1060
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: and hopefully they will nest there again this year again.

1061
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: I'll this past October, I got up there and installed

1062
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: a kind of a high tech camera. It's a PTZ camera,

1063
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: so I can you know, pan, tilt and zoom with it.

1064
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: And so if she chooses that nest again this year,

1065
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: then we're going to have that live feed going and

1066
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: people can watch, you know, real time what's going on

1067
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 3: with the nesting great horn.

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Speaker 2: Now, do they add anything to the nest on an

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Speaker 2: annual basis?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: So do you have to go up there and be

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Speaker 2: sure everything is copasetic.

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Speaker 3: I do go up there and I clean it out.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that they really add are like things

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01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: like leftover bones of critters that they've eaten, or feathers

1076
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: or that type of thing. They don't intentionally bring anything

1077
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 3: in at all. Sometimes they'll have, for example, if they're

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: really abundant in their hunting, they'll have extra prey sitting

1079
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: in their nest waiting for the babies to you know,

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: pick it up and eat it. And so there's you know,

1081
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: things like that. But I haven't really had much of

1082
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: a problem with that at all.

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Speaker 2: So do do you have to clean the nest out

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: as far as.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, I don't. This year, since I was up

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: there installing the camera, I added more grasses to the

1087
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: nest to make it you know, because they break down

1088
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: over time. And it's been five years that's been up there,

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01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: so it's I added some more grasses in there, kind

1090
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: of fluffed it up and made it nice. And so hopefully,

1091
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: keep my fingers crossed that'll happen. By the way, when people,

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01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: if they go to naturesmart dot com, they can sign

1093
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: up for my newsletter, which is free. It's just me.

1094
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: I don't sell emails. Or anything like that. It's just me,

1095
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: And every two weeks I send out a blog posting

1096
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 3: with announcements trips, new books, whatever things like that, so

1097
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: people can sign up for that at naturesmart dot com.

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: Don't sell the email addresses or anyhing.

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: No, it's just me. Like I said, it's just I

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01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: don't I don't work with anybody or any corporation or

1101
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: anything like that. It's just me.

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01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: So that tells you a little something too. Is as

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: far as easy to work with, I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's simple. Yeah, well I'm partially I'm partially lying

1105
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: because it's actually my daughter that puts it together and

1106
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: sends it out. I provide her all the information, uh,

1107
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: and I provided with the blog posting. I provide her

1108
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: with the pictures and all the information. She gathers it

1109
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: all up from me, puts it all together, and then

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01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: she sends it out on my emailing list. Cool. Yeah,

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01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: it's cool. I'm just thrilled to have such a wonderful

1112
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: daughter to be able to do that for me.

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes, as you should, and that's pretty important too, but

1114
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: father daughters, those relationships are crucial. Yeah, all right, Well,

1115
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: we talked an awful lot about that as far as

1116
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: the Costa Rica animals that you've seen, but also back

1117
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: home in Minnesota, the like the eagles are still around

1118
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: because I saw one just the other day.

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01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Some of them don't go too far, do they, or

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: do they stay near water because thee is that far

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: from me.

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: They look for open water. So their migration is basically

1124
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 3: from wherever they're at to wherever there's open water, and

1125
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 3: so a lot of times they don't go very fire,

1126
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: I mean something. They can go several hundred miles like that,

1127
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: but generally speaking, they're going just to find open water

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: where they can fish hunt, you know, and catch something

1129
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: to eat. That's their main thing. Now again, when the

1130
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: winters get tough, though, the bald eagles are big time

1131
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: scavengers and they will you know, scavenged roadkill and they'll

1132
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, find things on the road, pick it up

1133
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: and carry it off somewhere and eat it somewhere else too.

1134
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: So they're not above scavenging, that's for sure.

1135
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: I saw some post this last week about a bald

1136
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: eagle dropping a cat that they had taken in somebody's yard. Inadvertently,

1137
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't realize that they would take something

1138
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: like that.

1139
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they will pull things off of roads. It's funny,

1140
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say, because I heard

1141
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: something similar to this week also, and that was somebody

1142
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: said that a baldi was carrying a cat. I mean,

1143
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: it's a common It's like it's like the setup to

1144
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: any joke. And they were carrying the bald egle was

1145
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: carrying a cat and dropped it and went through somebody's windshield,

1146
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: is what I heard. There's so many of these things.

1147
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: I only believe about the small percentage of.

1148
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: I don't believe any of them. Those.

1149
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, and so, but it's certainly possible.

1150
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: But you got to think about it. Average bald eagles

1151
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 3: about ten pounds for a male, females about twelve. They

1152
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: could live about a quarter of their weight. So if

1153
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: you got a three or four pound cat, it's possible.

1154
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: If it's a twenty pound cat like mine, it's not possible.

1155
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, I re told the story you did because

1156
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: I at one point that I ask you my family

1157
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: was so worried because I had a new little Brittany,

1158
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: a new puppy, about leaving the dog in the yard.

1159
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: And he chastised me, saying, how big do you think

1160
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: these things are Yeah, yeah, because I had to retell

1161
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: that just to save me. Yeah.

1162
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: Now, technically speaking, they could you know, try and maybe

1163
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: puncture or you know, get some talons into but they

1164
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: can't carry it off, that's for sure, because they are

1165
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: It's physics, you know. It's the amount. Yeah, how much

1166
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: do they weigh and how much power they have and

1167
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: how much lift they have when they take off to

1168
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 3: be able to do that, And generally speaking they could

1169
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: lift about you know, half of almost half, not quite

1170
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: of what their total weight is. So so if your

1171
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 3: dog's above four pounds, which most dogs are, unless you

1172
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 3: got when those little teacup dogs, and you're you're fine

1173
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 3: in those situations. Now, having said that, you know, there's coyotes,

1174
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: you know, there's there's foxes, you know, or if you

1175
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: live in northern Minnesota, there's wolves, and all of them

1176
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 3: like to pick on dogs.

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Speaker 2: There are some feral cats that run loose in our

1178
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: neighborhood that I would like to be carried off to

1179
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: there you go, or somebody leaving their cat out overnight

1180
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: that just totally frosts my bucket.

1181
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a reminder that cats don't belong outdoors. They

1182
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: should be indoors. They're a pet, they're not a they

1183
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: shouldn't be out running around there. It's just it's not good.

1184
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: I had. I can't tell you, Stan, I had number

1185
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: of arguments with a tech support gal who let her

1186
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: cat out every night and thought nothing was wrong with that,

1187
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: and we would go round and round and round. But

1188
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: that's just an old memory that is making no difference

1189
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: anymore with a lot of the migration that's completed, hasn't it.

1190
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 3: Yes, migration is done, you know, for this year, and

1191
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 3: so we're going to see things, you know, starting to

1192
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 3: return though soon at some point things will start to change.

1193
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 3: December twenty first, as you know, is our winter solstice,

1194
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: and then from a day or two after that days

1195
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: start getting longer, and then you know, we're going to

1196
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 3: see that switch. So we're almost there. We're almost to

1197
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: that halfway point where it's going to start to improve.

1198
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: Of course, then we do have January February though, so

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: and I'll be as always January February. I'll be in

1200
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: Yellowstone for a good portion of that too. So yes,

1201
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward. It should be a good year.

1202
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: Well when you are out there, will we still be

1203
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: able to connect.

1204
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: Should be able to. Yeah, there's a time difference, so

1205
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 3: it means i'd be up a little an hour earlier

1206
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: than usual. But yeah, we can. We can connect again,

1207
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll have another good year with wolves like

1208
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: we had last year, with lots and lots of wolves.

1209
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I h there was there. There was concern about

1210
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,520
Speaker 2: the wolves in Aisle Royal, wasn't there, and they imported

1211
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: some wolves. But now I haven't seen anything about that.

1212
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: Or I haven't either. And I just got notification of

1213
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: the annual wolf Symposium. Every four years they have a

1214
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: wolf symposium, and I look forward to that so much

1215
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: every year. And I saw the notice of it and

1216
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my gosh, I can't wait to go.

1217
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,520
Speaker 3: And then I looked and I will be in Ecuador.

1218
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: So it's like, no, I can. So I'll be leading

1219
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 3: a trip to Ecuador, and so I'll be I'm not

1220
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: gonna be able to attend the wolf symposium this year, unfortunately.

1221
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Ecuador is that a lot the same as Costa Rica.

1222
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: Only ten times larger and a lot more diverse. Where

1223
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: there's like sixty eight species of hummingbirds in Costa Rica,

1224
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: there's like one hundred and thirty in Ecuador. So lots

1225
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: and lots of stuff going on there.

1226
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right. So are some of the species the same.

1227
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: Some Yeah, some are the same, but there's many, many,

1228
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 3: many that are not.

1229
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: Do some of our birds go to Ecuador for the

1230
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: winter and come back absolutely?

1231
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: In fact, when I was just in Costa Rica, I

1232
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 3: was seeing lots of warblers, Baltimore orioles. Saw. I'm all

1233
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 3: over the place down there, you know. Did they come

1234
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 3: from here and they go down there?

1235
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting? Well, sir, I appreciate your time. Gosh, it's

1236
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: fun talking to you, my friend. I really really do

1237
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: enjoy it, and I know our listeners do too, because

1238
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: there's there I get a number of comments on that too,

1239
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 2: So I thank you well.

1240
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: I enjoy it too, and you know, it's always it's

1241
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: always a good time. And hey, happy holidays, Merry Christmas

1242
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: and happy New Year to everybody out there, and everyone

1243
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: have a safe and great holiday.

1244
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: Safe and great are awesome too, I echo echo that

1245
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: for everybody, yourself included. Stand but all right, also, thank you.

1246
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 2: We'll talk again a couple of weeks, buddy, all right,

1247
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: calculator at stand tequila, don't forget nature, smart dot com

1248
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 2: and if you're an adult, if you are adulting a

1249
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: little bit, which I really really try not to do

1250
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 2: a lot, but you might check out some of Stan's

1251
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: adult aimed books. But that will be me too. We'll

1252
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: take that pause and be back with one more segment

1253
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: with Ackle Terry, or right after this, we're back one

1254
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: last time for this Saturday morning, and Brett is waiting

1255
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: for me to say, well, so well, last segment. How's

1256
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: that much better? Thank you? Sometimes I try to fix

1257
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: it up a little bit, but I'll learn. You'll get

1258
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: me trained yet, buddy. I'm just saying we'll bring our

1259
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: next guest in because he is every other week guest

1260
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: on Fan Outdoors and we appreciate his time to mister tackle.

1261
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: Terry Tuma joins us fresh off the ice fishing all,

1262
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: not the Maybe it's the ice, but I'm guessing it's

1263
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: the ice fishing show. Terry.

1264
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 5: Good morning, sir, Good morning to you, and good morning

1265
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 5: to all of our listeners. Yes, the ice. This show

1266
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: was a huge success bill. In fact, Saturday was a

1267
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 5: record breaker and the whole show totally was up twenty

1268
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 5: percent in attendance.

1269
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty cool.

1270
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 5: That's a lot. Yes, it is that's a lot. What

1271
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 5: really impressed me bill to a lot of teenagers. There

1272
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 5: a lot of families, a lot of youngsters. Basically all

1273
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 5: ages were at the show and some of them have

1274
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 5: never been a issue.

1275
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, Terry, I've been to the show a number. Well,

1276
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't for a few years ago, or until a

1277
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 2: few years ago. It was packed. Then how did anybody

1278
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: move around in the show floor.

1279
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 5: I think part of a bill was they had a

1280
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 5: VIP hours both Saturday and Friday, and that was opening

1281
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,440
Speaker 5: two hours earlier. It cost a little extra dollars and tickets,

1282
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 5: but that really helped relieve that, sir people. But it

1283
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 5: was crowd It was crowded during the main fire those days,

1284
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 5: and Someday was good. Also.

1285
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: It reminded when I when I did go, Terry reminded

1286
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: me of salmon swimming upstream because if you saw something

1287
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 2: you wanted to look at, you just couldn't do it

1288
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: because you were going to get swept right along with

1289
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: the current.

1290
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 5: Well, there's no question, but that's why they decided to

1291
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 5: do the VIP, which really helped a lot. But the

1292
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 5: buying bill was I watched the buying I was in

1293
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 5: the vessel booth, and it was just amazing. Like I

1294
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 5: seen one gentleman carring at least six rods that he purchased.

1295
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 5: So but I seen so many people buying almost any

1296
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 5: everything and anything wow wow, which was great. You know,

1297
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 5: it was really great. It's good for the fishing industry,

1298
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 5: and it's good for the fishing industry also.

1299
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, did you come across anything that surprised you

1300
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: or that you haven't seen much of or did you

1301
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: not have a lot of time to move around.

1302
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 5: I didn't have a lot of time to move around.

1303
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 5: We've done the panel discussion on Friday and that was

1304
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 5: standing room only, so that was very very good with

1305
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: a lot of good questions. But no, I've seen a

1306
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 5: couple of items. I think the chance to look at

1307
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 5: everything by no means. But one item that I did

1308
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 5: see was where they had an ice almost like an

1309
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 5: ice anchor or you drill a hole in the ice prober,

1310
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 5: I don't know, something like a six inch hole, maybe

1311
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: eight inch, and you dropped this sort of tube down

1312
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 5: there and then you were able to attach it to

1313
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 5: a very strong so we say, sort of a rope

1314
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 5: if you will, or if you got stuck and you

1315
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 5: had a winch on a say a truck or side

1316
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 5: by side or whatever, you could actually winch yourself out.

1317
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 5: I like that, Terry, Yeah, it really. It was like

1318
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 5: one hundred dollars. And he said they've been selling a

1319
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 5: ton of them. They were, They've been in business for

1320
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 5: five years, he said, all across the ice belt that

1321
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 5: they've been selling them. But this was really a good idea,

1322
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 5: very simple, to be honest with you. Uh, and it

1323
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 5: the strength of this strap was I thought, he said,

1324
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: five thousand pounds.

1325
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's one of those deals, Terry, that

1326
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: you think I should have thought of that.

1327
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 5: I hope you never need it, but if you needed,

1328
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 5: you have it, right.

1329
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, better to have it not needed.

1330
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if you around the lake and you got stuck,

1331
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 5: you know, with a side by side or with your truck,

1332
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 5: and you got a winch. You know what a great

1333
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 5: way to get free or get out stuck.

1334
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Terry used to I'd go with the perch patrol. But

1335
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: that was their whole concept too. They would go with

1336
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: a buddy. So if they did get stuck and just

1337
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: give somebody a call on the on the radio or

1338
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: probably on the radio now still, but they just come

1339
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: and yankee out and that just saved everybody's boy.

1340
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 5: Well, sure, yeah, in this little too, you know. But

1341
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 5: here again you have to have a winch, of course,

1342
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 5: but still, you know, I think a lot of side

1343
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 5: by sides and I do have winches. Many forwarders have

1344
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 5: linches winches, and the trucks have winches too on them.

1345
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 5: So you have a lot of opportunity here. And he

1346
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 5: said they really sell, and I'm sure that they do.

1347
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a winch at home. I used to

1348
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: hoist up electric winch, but you to plug it into

1349
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: the back end by Chevy, and it's got power right

1350
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: back there. I use it to lift up deer carcasses

1351
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: and hang them and stuff. But it also works for

1352
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: taking trees down. But it would work for pulling out

1353
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,839
Speaker 2: pulling you out.

1354
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 5: Of the snow too, Oh yes it would. And especially,

1355
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 5: you know, especially if you get really hung up in

1356
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 5: some of that icy, wet snow, you can really bury

1357
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 5: yourself in and I that has happened to me. And

1358
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 5: this would be really a way to save a lot

1359
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 5: of time and many times a lot of dollars.

1360
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree, Harry. So with the show was

1361
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: going on, had anybody talked about having been on the

1362
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: ice already.

1363
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 5: Yes, somewhat. I did talk to a River Bend resort

1364
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 5: and they, as of yesterday did that eight to ten

1365
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 5: inches of ice on the leak. And here here I'm

1366
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 5: hearing a lot of reports four to five inches, some

1367
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 5: two inches, some three inches, and I think it really good.

1368
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 5: I talked to a bait Chop vocalist today and this

1369
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 5: morning early and he said to me, he said that

1370
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 5: there's approximately two inches of ice, two inches of snow,

1371
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 5: and then two inches of ice. So we got that

1372
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 5: layering system due to this weather that we've had. But

1373
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 5: with the forecast that's taking place now, which is cool weather,

1374
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 5: that should really firm up everything. And I think everything

1375
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 5: should really shape up to be a very good ice visue.

1376
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: Well I hope so. But I have like six or

1377
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: seven inches of snow at home top of the snow

1378
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: we already got. We just got that one the other day.

1379
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: But when you put snow on ice, that snow acts

1380
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: like an insulation too. Plus you can't really see ahead

1381
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: of you other than the assumption that everything is good. Terry,

1382
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: I remember two years ago on our lake that the

1383
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 2: geese cap kept a big section of water open long

1384
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: after the rest of the lake had frozen. You drive

1385
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: over that with all that snow, and you're going to

1386
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: find yourself in a deep doodo.

1387
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 5: Oh you are, And you're exactly right, even while walking

1388
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 5: and so forth. You know, if and that's exactly or

1389
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 5: a spring something worse spring is active. You know, we

1390
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 5: have a couple of active springs on our lake. It's

1391
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 5: always we can see the water seeping up through and

1392
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 5: that's also negative too. But here we've had that brain

1393
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 5: sweet snow mixture. But I think it really is going

1394
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 5: to be just fine with these temperatures, you know, really

1395
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 5: going to reform the ice itself. But here again too,

1396
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 5: as you mentioned, and with this change in weather, Pat,

1397
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 5: it's constantly we need to be a little bit careful.

1398
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and you know people want to take off

1399
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: and go on their own. And the guy used to

1400
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: tell me when I was at school that you want

1401
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: to be on the edge, but you don't want to

1402
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: be on the bloody edgectly.

1403
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 5: Right, Bill, You are right. You know here too, if

1404
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 5: you're venturing on a brand new lake, nobody's out there.

1405
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 5: Use cought, you know, if you can take a buddy

1406
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 5: with you, please do that carry a rope of some sort.

1407
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 5: But you know here too, again just use common sense,

1408
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 5: and you know, if there's nobody on the lake, you

1409
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 5: have to sort of ask yourself why, because you know,

1410
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 5: if nobody's fishing that specific body of wh not good

1411
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 5: fishing or it's not safe.

1412
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, I don't think I want to go,

1413
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to be the first one out

1414
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: on anything us.

1415
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 5: No, and I have I don't think I've ever mentioned

1416
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 5: to your triad of our listeners, but I have fallen

1417
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 5: through three times up to my waist only at that

1418
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 5: shot on your body, Bill is literally unbelievable. Describe it,

1419
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 5: you know, it's just it's it's something that and I

1420
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 5: can't even then think about going all the way through

1421
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: getting submerged.

1422
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, it takes the honest to gosh, Terry, It

1423
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: takes the breath steals it instantly out of your body.

1424
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: You got you just.

1425
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 5: Can't breathe exactly right, Yes, And it's that kind of

1426
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 5: a shock. And I know I got into the truck

1427
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 5: and took out my boots and warmed up and hit

1428
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 5: it home. I was done for the day.

1429
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now when you first do get out on

1430
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: the ice, h what are you going to be doing well?

1431
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 5: Generally speaking, first of all, pick out a good leg

1432
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 5: that after the specie that I'm going to pursue bill,

1433
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 5: and then I look for some sort of structure, you know,

1434
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 5: maybe it's a point or existing we did inside turn

1435
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 5: of the flat. Some of those are rock piles. Those

1436
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 5: are going to be something I'll be looking for. And

1437
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: I can do that by past experiences of watching the

1438
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: shoreline or and dropping the XR down to see the

1439
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,879
Speaker 5: depth and see if I can mark anything.

1440
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: You know.

1441
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: One of the things I noticed Terry was I was

1442
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: in I was shooting the breeze of Denny Fletcher not

1443
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: too long ago up there, and I can't believe the

1444
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 2: number of calls this his bait shop got from people

1445
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: wondering what was going on? How much ice is there? Dyada, YadA, yadia,

1446
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: What different lakes that you're going to? And he was

1447
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: more than welcoming those kinds of calls, and he would

1448
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: He actually took a guy over and showed him a

1449
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: lake map and pointed it out to him, pointed out

1450
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: the places he could go. They're more generic places, but

1451
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: it's a good starting.

1452
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 5: Spot, it really is, especially if it's a good day

1453
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 5: chop that really takes pride in, you know, selling tackle

1454
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 5: and visiting with UH their customers. It is a great

1455
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 5: starting point in the wintertime. I think it's really something

1456
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 5: to take a look at. You know, most of these

1457
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 5: people will try to find out, you know, what kind

1458
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 5: of ice conditions there are, what kind of species are biting,

1459
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 5: what are they biting on. It's just a big, big factory.

1460
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 5: That's a good place to start always, and especially in

1461
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 5: the winter time.

1462
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 2: Do people like yourself even use bobbers anymore?

1463
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 5: Terry as not a whole I will in a second hole,

1464
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 5: Like if we're going, you know, fishing for walleys, you know,

1465
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 5: then I'll use a barber system and a tool, you know,

1466
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 5: permanent house or some sorts get out the wheelhouse. Then

1467
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 5: I'll use a bobber system. But otherwise I don't know.

1468
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 5: Basically I'll use for some fishing crappies, and even for walleys,

1469
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 5: I'll use either a depth stick and digging some sort

1470
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 5: you know, jig or digging round or whatever it may be.

1471
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 5: And then the other one would be a death stick

1472
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 5: without a bobber most of the time, but not always.

1473
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 5: Here again too, it really depends, I think on the

1474
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 5: specie I'm pursuing and what I'm fishing for and where

1475
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 5: and how.

1476
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: When you're talking about let's say, panfish fishing in the

1477
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: wintertime or early ice like it is right now, maybe

1478
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: it's not early anymore, I don't even know time of day.

1479
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: Does that make a difference, And does barometer make a difference,

1480
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: And does cloudy versus sunny make a difference?

1481
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 5: Yes, it sure does that. That was some of the

1482
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 5: questions we had at the Pannel discussion too, Bill, and

1483
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 5: thank you for asking for those. Yes. First of all, yes,

1484
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 5: the brombo makes a big, big difference in catching fish.

1485
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 5: Many anger as they can it's cold out, It really does.

1486
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 5: I think it makes more difference in the winter time

1487
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 5: than in the summertime. In fact, talking to some of

1488
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 5: the guys in a winter time they agree one hundred percent.

1489
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: And generally speaking, you know, a rising barometer is really

1490
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 5: a tough bite. A stong bromer is okay, by a

1491
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 5: steady brommer is excellent. And so therefore what you need

1492
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 5: to do, and that's what ties in with fishing pressure too,

1493
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 5: is you know, fishing pressure, the noise factor another major

1494
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 5: ingredient in being successful. So what we really need to

1495
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 5: do is take a look at you know, exactly where

1496
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 5: we are going to be fishing on, what body of water,

1497
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 5: and then just according to the weather condition. To go

1498
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 5: out and say that you can't catch fish during the coldfront,

1499
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 5: that's totally fault. But what you need to do is,

1500
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 5: you know, generally speaking, what I personal will do startles

1501
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 5: go to the contact a small scow and subtle. If

1502
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 5: I don't catch any fish, and I go just the opposite,

1503
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 5: hopefully to get a reaction bite. And the best time

1504
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 5: a day, especially for sunfish is early morning and late evening.

1505
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 5: If it's a cloudy day or really cloudy out of snowcover,

1506
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 5: then you can have a pretty good mid day bite.

1507
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 5: But here again it you know, there's that at fun

1508
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 5: timeframe of about a half hour before daybreak two about

1509
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 5: eight thirty in the morning, a reason being that these

1510
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,919
Speaker 5: fish are feeding on dash It's a small zoo plankton.

1511
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 5: It's about the size of the head of a stickpin.

1512
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 5: And if you can capitalize on that time frame of

1513
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 5: a bite, you're going to have some great, great success

1514
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 5: for sunfish, especially Terry.

1515
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: I've been on some panel discussions too, not on fishing

1516
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 2: or on ice fishing, but on other things. I always fought,

1517
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: and when I'm attending one too, I always find it

1518
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: interesting that sometimes people don't agree. They arrive at the

1519
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: same conclusion, but they have different ways of arriving. Did

1520
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: you have that or notice it at all in your group?

1521
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 5: Yes, I did, Yes, very much so. And and you're right,

1522
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 5: you know, you know, and everybody has the same actually

1523
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 5: the same goal as to catch fish, of course, but

1524
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 5: also too there are different approaches of doing that and

1525
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 5: if it's successful by all means, do it. But here

1526
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 5: are too, you know. It's just I think most of

1527
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 5: the time is just paying attention to your fishing pressure,

1528
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 5: your weather conditions, what the fish are eating, when are

1529
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 5: they eating, and you know, like fishing pressure is a

1530
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 5: big factor, Bill. I've seen it so many times fishing crappies,

1531
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 5: or it's in a terrible crappy bite in the evening

1532
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 5: and when all the people got off, I was fishing

1533
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 5: a reef. When all the people got off, about a

1534
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 5: half hour eadar, here comes the crappies. And I've seen

1535
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 5: it so many, many many times. Or you know, fishing pressure,

1536
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 5: which relates the noise is really something of a fact

1537
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 5: that you are thing too. I should mention is that

1538
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 5: we have some questions too about the drilling holes. And

1539
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 5: I generally speak, I'll drill you know, two three holes,

1540
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 5: and I'll let that noise factor settle down, and then

1541
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 5: I'll pop the transducer in to see if I'm marking

1542
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 5: fit and move to one spot into the next nixt

1543
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 5: So then if I don't market you fit within you know,

1544
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 5: temis per hole, then I'll definitely move. But we have

1545
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 5: this tendency to move so much. I think it's costing

1546
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 5: us face Bill. And the other thing too that came up,

1547
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 5: especially in the panel, was you know, work to do

1548
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 5: your host Jerry speaking, I will personally drive a who

1549
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 5: on snow. It's up to that question of the noise

1550
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 5: and stop and then diminishes the sunlight.

1551
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1552
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 5: And then also right at the edge of that, so

1553
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 5: that becomes an edge to hold some of the fishes.

1554
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 2: Terry, We're gonna let you go, buddy, but thank you,

1555
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: my friend. Have a fabulous weekend.

1556
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 5: Okay, well you too, and everybody go fishing, but you

1557
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 5: little cross, as.

1558
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: Bill says, that's tackle. Terry joins us every other week

1559
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: on Fan Outdoors. We're almost not a time, but I

1560
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: want to do say thank you special thanks to stand

1561
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: Tequila for joining us, Thank you for allowing us to

1562
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 2: travel with you for Brett blakemore my producer, executive producer.

1563
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm Billy Hildebrand, trying to stay warm. See you next week, everybody.

1564
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Until then,