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Speaker 2: It's for an I Heeart radio station guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: Human.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's disappointing, but I'm certainly thankful for this

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Speaker 4: group in their efforts. But it's a disappointing night tonight.

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Speaker 5: Coach Mike Tomlin of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Former coach of

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin with his postgame comments there

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Speaker 5: after Houston's defeat of the Steelers in the Wildcard Game

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Speaker 5: on Monday night. Mike Tomlin stepping down after night teen

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Speaker 5: years yesterday as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: It is the end of an era. And you know,

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Speaker 5: we've talked a lot off air about this. That was

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Speaker 5: a shock yesterday, no question about it. But to me,

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Speaker 5: as much as I had issues with Mike Tomlin, and

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Speaker 5: I think that a change is necessary for this organization.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't know to what degree I knew they

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Speaker 5: couldn't keep doing what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: It obviously wasn't working.

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Speaker 5: I would have been fine with let's get some badass

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Speaker 5: coordinators in here. Arthur Smith was a step in the

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Speaker 5: right direction, I guess away from Matt Canada, but still

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Speaker 5: not good enough. And let's get this guy a quarterback

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Speaker 5: and two coordinators and make him an overseer of the team.

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Speaker 3: He's got good ball knowledge.

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Speaker 5: He inspires players, but we have to stop giving him

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Speaker 5: the ability to buy the groceries to make dinner. As

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Speaker 5: Bill Parcells once said, because I thought talent assessment was

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Speaker 5: the biggest issue. So with his stepping down, I kind

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Speaker 5: of am of two minds. I feel sad about it,

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Speaker 5: and as much as I think there needs to be

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Speaker 5: something done, I'm sad about Mike Tomlin stepping down after

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Speaker 5: nineteen years. I can't get into the There's like a

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Speaker 5: group of Steeler fans who are very excited about this,

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Speaker 5: and the people who were chanting fire Tomlin and stuff

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Speaker 3: You know my thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: I've talked about it a lot, even during the Fire

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Speaker 5: Canada days. I thought that that was a classless look

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Speaker 3: It's like, keep your.

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Speaker 5: Issues in has you know? Uh yeah, in no way

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Speaker 5: she or formed you. I think Mike Tomlin heard those

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Speaker 5: chants and he's like, dude's it. I'm over here. As

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Speaker 5: some people are asserting, Uh, this is one of the

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Speaker 5: all time great coaches in NFL history, and his record

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Speaker 5: of never having a losing season is insanely consistent and

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Speaker 5: remarkable and tough to do. And I know that that

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Speaker 5: became a joke for a lot of people, and that

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Speaker 5: it didn't matter to me.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin is synonymous.

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Speaker 5: With Pittsburgh Steelers football, so it's really hard to imagine

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Speaker 5: him not as the coach going forward.

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Speaker 3: You know. Uh, Now, change is hard.

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Speaker 5: As I said, and I'm one of my most Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: trait is that I don't love big change like this,

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Speaker 5: But I do think it'll be good for both sides.

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Speaker 5: I do think it'll be good for Mike Tomlin. I

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Speaker 5: do think it'll be good for the Steelers, provided they

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Speaker 5: get the right coach. That being said, it is hard

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Speaker 5: to swallow. I don't know how you guys feel, but

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Speaker 5: it is weird to think of the Pittsburgh Steelers being

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Speaker 5: coached by anybody else not named Cower or Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Should be easy to find the right coach. Based on

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Speaker 1: the reaction I'm seeing on social media, Yeah, oh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just go to the good coach Store.

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Speaker 3: Grab one, Yes, the head Coach Emporium. They have one

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Speaker 3: in Ross Parks, Mall. Yeah. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 3: I grew up with Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: I was still in college when he got higher and uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's a weird Cowra felt like

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Speaker 1: I'm also happy for Tomlin. It seemed like he, I

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Speaker 1: was saying this, Dabby before the show, seemed like you

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Speaker 1: had like no discernible hobbies. Really yeah, right, he just was,

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Speaker 1: It seems like ten jobs rolled into one.

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Speaker 6: I just with him having a year to go and

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Speaker 6: him stepping down like that just to me, really two

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Speaker 5: Two years to fifty million dollars he left on the table.

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Speaker 6: Wow, So that really does leave him to what either

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Speaker 5: He's going to TV.

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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna go to TV and uh and

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Speaker 3: People want him there. It's low.

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Speaker 5: I think he sees coach Kauer who planned on going

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Speaker 5: me I suck every Sunday. You know, there's not a

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Speaker 5: my ass, when I go to pump gas and I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm going out to dinner with friends. This is I

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Speaker 5: have a life that becomes very attractive, very fast. And

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Speaker 5: he is going to be a sought after commodity. Anybody

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Speaker 5: that would want coach Tomlin to coach for them would

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Speaker 5: have to trade for the rights for Mike Tomlin. So

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Speaker 5: the Steelers in that regard, you know, he might get

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Speaker 5: a Sean Payton situation. I can't remember what the details

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Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, so we might get something out of it

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Speaker 5: when all of a sudden done. But I don't think

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Speaker 5: There's so many rumors that have to be unsubstantiated.

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Speaker 3: He'll only coach in warm weather.

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Speaker 1: I don't, okay, all right, after nineteen years of this,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was the straw. Yeah, yeah, I TV seems

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Speaker 5: I want him next to Terry Bradshaw, as I said,

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Speaker 5: I do think he was slow to adapt to an

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Speaker 5: paid for it. That looked anything like what we saw

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Speaker 5: Houston do the other night, you know, yeah, like those

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Speaker 5: lot more on that. We're gonna be talking a lot

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Speaker 5: about it, obviously. Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,

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Speaker 5: a winner? Maybe I'll be good. Yeah, because they might

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Speaker 5: not get their quarterback this year. I'm not sure interested

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Speaker 5: to hear what Mike has to say about things. In

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Speaker 5: a shocking development yesterday, coach Tomlin stepping down.

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Speaker 6: Him stepping down just tells me that he knows something

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Speaker 6: and then also that there is something potentially that maybe

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Speaker 3: Sleeping would be my guess.

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Speaker 6: I say beyond that, because I don't think that he's

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Speaker 7: He seems like a seeker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's clear he had planned this.

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Speaker 5: He didn't lose the game and then go, you know what,

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Speaker 5: I'm done, right, It's clear to me that he was

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Speaker 5: He knew that once this season was over, he was

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Speaker 3: That was fast.

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Speaker 5: There's some people speculating nest whether or not Art Rooney

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 5: We did start to hear some names being bandied about

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Speaker 3: Would be one of the first people considered.

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Speaker 1: think Mike McDaniel bring him interview? I don't know, Cheryl, Cheryl.

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Speaker 5: Call Mike mcdale's people happy, he's here right now, Sarah, Oh, okay,

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Speaker 5: he's just waiting. There's just coaches agents just have their

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Speaker 5: now interview. I don't think coach Tomlin tipped his hand.

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Speaker 5: I don't I think that he surprised Art Rooney yesterday

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Speaker 5: now it's onto Chris Shula, Marcus Freeman, Brian Lauras.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Those are some of the names you keep hearing. Marcus

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Speaker 5: Freeman to me, where the hell's that coming from? Based

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people keep talking about Signetti too.

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Speaker 5: It's like he's sixty two years old and he just

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Speaker 5: made a buttload of money, and Jacob's over there going

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Speaker 5: uh oh you're not allowed to have him.

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Speaker 7: I thought of Jacob immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have him, though, why because he

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Speaker 5: If he stinks though, I mean, he was born in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: But if he's stunk, it wouldn't I don't know, his

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Speaker 3: The highest state. Yeah, I don't know. I let the iupiece.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know fifty dude.

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Speaker 1: I could write you a list of fifty dudes that

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Speaker 5: all the latest in a world wind day, and not just.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, but in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: As legendary coach Mike Tomlin steps down, it's the end

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Speaker 5: I got to be honest.

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Speaker 7: Today it is a high of forty six.

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Speaker 6: Keeper Sutherland was arrested early Monday morning for allegedly assaulting

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Speaker 6: Police responded to the call around twelve to fifteen. A

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Speaker 7: The driver didn't suck We're.

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Speaker 3: Coming, hear.

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Speaker 5: Criminal threats always sound I'm gonna rob a bank, you

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Speaker 6: The driver didn't suffer any injuries that required medical attention.

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Speaker 6: Keefer was booked around four am on an unspecific felony charge,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a.

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Speaker 7: Cooky guy, cooky guy, and he continues the kookiness the times.

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Speaker 1: Stav leads me to believe he was drunk, but I think, right, know, crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: But I always like to think about what the rideshare

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Speaker 8: The uber driver pulls up, He's like, sorry, I had

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Speaker 9: Shut up.

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Speaker 5: Keifer, Oh, Keifer. He's always had a kind of a

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 5: I definitely think he's got a laundry list of incidents

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Speaker 7: A musician as well? Yeah, is he good?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I guess it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: We know he's gonna play moon Dogs this summer. He

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Speaker 7: Right, another quirky guy.

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Speaker 8: UH.

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Speaker 6: Skittles and Elijah Wood are looking to go big with

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Speaker 3: Mark swear to God for a second.

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Speaker 5: When you said Skittles and Elijah Wood, I'm like, is

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Speaker 3: I don't know about. I'm out of touch.

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Speaker 5: Good Skittles is the esn ill guest this weekend, Jolly Skittles, Diabetes.

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Speaker 7: Fest Bars Incorporated.

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Speaker 6: UH is announcing that for it's Super Bowl commercial, it's

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Speaker 7: Your yard and Elijah Wood is a part of it.

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Speaker 6: And Elijah Wood was explaining this concept to People magazine,

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Speaker 6: saying that he plays a magical creature that can be

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Speaker 7: So as long as you have.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, is it? Yeah? Very interesting? Yeah? I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many people are going to rush to do that.

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Speaker 11: Why not.

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Speaker 7: Blowing a horn and then you get Skittles?

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Speaker 5: Can I use your bathroom?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I was out last night doing the Skittles thing.

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Speaker 1: Now that's where my career is.

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Speaker 5: Now him, I can see beating up a uber driver.

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Speaker 5: I mean, things are not going good. Do you like Skittles.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a Skittles person, never have been.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm if I'm gonna have sugar, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: That's exactly where I am.

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Speaker 5: Although I don't mind a sweetheart or something like that

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Speaker 5: which were basically it's like, but that's Skittles adjacent. I

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Speaker 7: That's like Toms what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, Toms is what I like.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, sorry, I have those every Yeah, never mind the edge.

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Speaker 3: I'm just all out of sorts with the Tomlin news.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But if it was a Tom's commercial,

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Speaker 6: I think I had a moment with things like Skittles,

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Speaker 7: I'm just like, I just I can't do this.

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Speaker 6: But now I'm full into like anything that's like chocolate

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Speaker 7: I wonder where that's been my whole life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's always been my jam. Always been a

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Speaker 5: I feel like my immune systems been better the last

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Speaker 7: You got to send me all these things that you're taking.

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Speaker 5: You bought me Lion's Mane for my birthday and I've

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Speaker 3: For these are gifts to each other.

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Speaker 6: These are our gifts to each other. It is like supplements. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I bought you supplements, and I bought you whiskey to

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Speaker 6: I keep meaning to bring it to you. It fell

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Speaker 7: We're at the point of our birthday.

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Speaker 3: The most practical gifts, very practical.

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Speaker 5: I bought her a snowbrush last year because she was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was in a broom, broom, because.

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Speaker 7: I'm short and so whenever I can't reach the top.

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Speaker 5: Of the cars. Back in the day, we'll be like,

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Speaker 5: here's a GIF certificate to a really cool restaurant. Let's

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Speaker 5: go party. Really, let's get a hammer, let's go get hammered.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, here's Lyon's name, bunch of depositories and an

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Speaker 5: That's all right, I'm still rock and Rolling and the

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Speaker 5: Rambles coming up in two weeks, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: We've got a really special night planned with a really

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Speaker 5: cool tribute to Bob Weir.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna want to miss this show.

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Speaker 13: Saturday, January twenty fourth, DV presents Randy Bauman's Ramble Live

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Speaker 13: with the Thunderbird Music Hall. Over twenty five local musicians

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Speaker 13: coming together for an epic throwdown of rock and soul

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Speaker 13: in the spirit of Levon Helm's Midnight Rambles, and this

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Speaker 13: Bob Weird featuring Clinton Clay, Pattie Twigg, Max Somerville, Josh Verbannons,

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Speaker 13: Sarah Siblat, Nathan Zoo, Gibson Mesisco, Mike Minda, Rob James,

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Speaker 13: January twenty four at the Thunderburg Music Hall, Randy Bauman's

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Speaker 14: DVE from the Bridgeville Appliance Weather Center start the new

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Speaker 14: year with.

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Speaker 5: New radio home at the picture Steelers one on two

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Speaker 5: point five dve in the end of an era on

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin stepping down a Steelers head coach yesterday.

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Speaker 15: Sports is Up brought to you by Bridgeville applying someone

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Speaker 15: with you, Randy. I don't think Mike Tomlin decided after

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Speaker 5: There were a lot of leaks of potential coaches. As

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Speaker 5: I said earlier months ago. A lot of times that's

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Speaker 15: Yeah, if we find out in the coming days that yeah,

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Speaker 3: But we do know this much.

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Speaker 15: Mike Tomlin went in yesterday and told Art Rooney that's that,

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Speaker 15: Art Rooney, the second Steels President, issuing a statement yesterday

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Speaker 15: then included during our meeting today Coach Tomlin in for

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Speaker 15: me that he has decided to step down as our

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Speaker 15: His track record of never having had a losing season

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 5: Where you and I part paths is that I think

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Speaker 5: it's significant that his coaching tree is bare. I think

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Speaker 5: that's a big deal or not. I think it's telling.

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Speaker 5: I think talent assessment will always have been his achilles heel.

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Speaker 5: He believed in guys or believed he was able to

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Speaker 5: perform some sort of reclamation project on guys who were

447
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Speaker 5: just past their expiration date.

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Speaker 15: I think that's a fair criticism. I think, and hey,

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Speaker 15: in the NFL, talent assessment is always the trick. I mean,

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Speaker 15: teams that win assess their talent correctly and they have

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Speaker 15: good talent. Teams that lose did not right. I mean,

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Speaker 15: you don't see a lot of non talented teams going

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Speaker 15: to the NFC Championship Game. But I think that was

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Speaker 15: particularly an issue in free agency and trades. You know,

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Speaker 15: we always talked about him playing the long game and

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Speaker 15: they would acquire somebody and it's all I went this

457
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Speaker 15: pro day at Georgia and we went out to dinner

458
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Speaker 15: eight years ago, or I liked them then. I think

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Speaker 15: he got a little too attached to people at certain times.

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Speaker 15: And yeah, they had the talent acquisition is what they

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Speaker 15: have to attack as an organization.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if they're going to get better.

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Speaker 15: But one of the ways you have a bad playoff

464
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Speaker 15: record is you make the playoffs when your quarterback options

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Speaker 15: are Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph, and you

466
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Speaker 15: find a way to make that work, and then you

467
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Speaker 15: have to go into Buffalo, or then you have to

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Speaker 15: go into Kansas City, or then you have to go

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Speaker 15: into New England, or then.

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Speaker 3: You have to go in to wherever.

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Speaker 15: Like he got some teams there that probably that's as

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Speaker 15: good as they were.

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Speaker 3: But to me again, but if you want to win

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, you got a better team than that.

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Speaker 3: You can't draft Kenny Pikett at number two.

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Speaker 5: But okay, so who should be doing the talent evaluation?

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Speaker 5: That's Omar? Well, like Andy weidel Is. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: the number.

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Speaker 15: Two in the GM department and he is perceived as

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Speaker 15: the talent guy. Omar rose to his curt level as

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Speaker 15: a cap guy.

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Speaker 5: But this is something that happened throughout time in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: and it started sort of in the parcels era where

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Speaker 5: these guys there were a couple of GM coaches, but

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Speaker 5: mostly it was like there was an personnel expertise was

486
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Speaker 5: separate from coaching, and then the parcels. If I'm cooking dinner,

487
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Speaker 5: I want to buy the groceries. Quote always stands out

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Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I think originally it was separate because in

490
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Speaker 15: the pre salary cap days, there was a lot more negotiating,

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Speaker 15: and you know, finances were a bigger deal. Now everybody

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Speaker 15: kind of spends the same, it's just what you spend

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Speaker 15: them on. So you know, if Parcels went to the

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Speaker 15: grocery store and said I'd like file a and the

495
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Speaker 15: GM said, well you're getting Hamburger helper, make it good?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 15: Uh yeah, that's the Steelers have to figure out how

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Speaker 15: to get better players. But the argument that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 15: can't coach is farcical.

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Speaker 5: I agree, I get you know, I had my problems

501
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Speaker 5: with with coach T, but it wasn't I wasn't a

502
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Speaker 5: lop off the head guy necessarily, so much as I

503
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Speaker 5: think he's a great guy to oversee a football organization.

504
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Speaker 5: I disagreed with some of his tactics. But uh, I

505
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Speaker 5: don't know. I'm feeling sad today, not because I feel

506
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Speaker 5: like I wished him out the door. There's an element

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Speaker 5: that I wanted things to change, but I don't like

508
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Speaker 5: the way that it's being painted by a lot of

509
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Speaker 5: people in Steeler Nation that.

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Speaker 3: That it's just not this.

511
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Speaker 5: Uniform adulation on his way out, which is what I

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Speaker 5: think it should be.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't agree more. And one of the things I

514
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Speaker 15: always appreciated about him. You know how much I love

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Speaker 15: training camp. I think Mike Tomlin loves camp more than

516
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Speaker 15: I did. Well, yeah, he was love sharks You did

517
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Speaker 15: I know that? I wow, Okay, yeah that's true. You

518
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 15: love Sharky's more than anyway. I put more time in

519
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Speaker 15: listening to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was busier. Yeah.

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Speaker 15: If attention means adulation, then you know, two thumbs. This guy. Uh,

522
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Speaker 15: he cared. You know the fans say they care, he

523
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Speaker 15: actually did. I think he cared more than the fans cared.

524
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Speaker 15: And he cared about coaching football. He was a self

525
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Speaker 15: described on many occasions football junkie. You know, Danny Smith

526
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Speaker 15: has said this over the years. He doesn't have any hobbies.

527
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Speaker 15: He he doesn't golf, he doesn't do this. He just

528
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Speaker 15: wants to coach special teams.

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Speaker 3: So he is. It's what he does. Mike tom the

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Speaker 3: same kind of guy. I think. I do think he.

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Speaker 15: Will be awful a TV because, as you've heard me,

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Speaker 15: if he goes there, Because as I've described him many

533
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Speaker 15: times over.

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Speaker 3: The years, he never meant a sentence.

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Speaker 15: He couldn't turn into two paragraphs, right, and TV is

536
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Speaker 15: about brevity, Yeah, and getting.

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Speaker 3: Your point out and then moving on and uh.

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Speaker 15: He likes to wax poetic and hear the sound of

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Speaker 15: his own voice and use a bunch of words.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think this. I don't think TV is

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Speaker 3: the endgame here. No, I think it will be stopgap

542
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Speaker 3: like it was for Sean Payton. I don't.

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Speaker 15: I just for whatever reason, I think he thinks he

544
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Speaker 15: needs a reset and he's still a relatively young guy

545
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Speaker 15: in the coaching profession. Yeah, and you know he could

546
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Speaker 15: have a second career that is extensive, a second chapter.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he will.

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Speaker 3: I think he will, and I think he will too.

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Speaker 15: But Okay, Steeler fans, those of you who are celebrating,

551
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Speaker 15: you got it.

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Speaker 5: Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King, Jeremy Fowler,

553
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Speaker 5: who along with Adam Schefter broke the news yesterday, will

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Speaker 5: join us at eight forty five. Max Starks, Mark Madden.

555
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Speaker 5: We are packed to the gills with Steelers insiders talking

556
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Speaker 5: about the shocking news was shocking for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked. I was. It was shocked, Dodgeball.

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Speaker 5: If we got there to that point, that would have

559
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Speaker 5: been one thing, But to have it happen less than

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Speaker 5: twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: You know why.

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Speaker 5: I was a little more than twelve hours, but you know,

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Speaker 5: shortly after the lost to Houston was a huge surprise.

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Speaker 15: It's funny because he kind of was noncommittal when he

565
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Speaker 15: was asked about his future right after the game. He

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Speaker 15: was and usually he slaps that down with a little

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Speaker 15: more authority.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. It didn't really register with me at the time.

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Speaker 15: Did I know about Jim's p Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 15: if I.

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Speaker 5: Was just tired or I didn't bear.

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Speaker 3: I was in bed, but he just said, I'm still

573
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Speaker 3: played it yesterday.

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Speaker 15: I'm still in the mindset we just lost, and I

575
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Speaker 15: haven't thought about any of that yet, which usually says, hey,

576
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Speaker 15: as long as they'll have me, I'm I'm the guy,

577
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Speaker 15: and I'm here and this is what I do.

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 15: I just thought it was late and it was an

580
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Speaker 15: incredible ass kicking.

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Speaker 3: It was an incredible ass kicking. That was a tough one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin might have walked

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Speaker 5: out the door with that incredible ass kicking.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Aaron Rodgers is coming back to the

585
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Speaker 3: Steelers without my talk.

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Speaker 15: I don't sure he might play again, but won't be

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Speaker 15: give one of them wants to continue doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: I bet they do it, Abby, What are you talking about?

589
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 6: Gen Z is unplugging and it's making them happier. And

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Speaker 6: somebody decided to.

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Speaker 7: Write about Rod Stewart's eighty year old sex life.

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Speaker 3: Tim Bens will join us next.

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Speaker 5: You know, this all could have been avoided if we

594
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Speaker 5: would have brought that woman from the Jacksonville Free Press

595
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Speaker 5: up here to give him a pep talk after the game.

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Speaker 3: It's on Benz. Yes, Ben's had the opportunity to do it,

597
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Speaker 3: and he refused.

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Speaker 17: Eyes forward, hands in the ten and two position. Radio cranked, Yep,

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Speaker 17: looks like you're ready to drive.

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Speaker 16: Let's get after you.

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Speaker 5: It's your radio home at the Pittsford Steelers one out

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Speaker 5: two point five dv E. Mike Tomlin resigns after nineteen

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Speaker 5: years as head coach and absolute end of an era.

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Speaker 3: And I was pretty shocked by the news.

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Speaker 5: Tim Ben's brought to you by Don's Appliance joining us right

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Speaker 5: now from Tribal Live Sports and Benzi, where did you

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Speaker 5: land on the surprise scale yesterday with the news that

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin had decided to step down?

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Speaker 18: Surprised because I didn't think that he would be the

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Speaker 18: one to throw in the towel if he thought that

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Speaker 18: he had any chance of competing next year, if there

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Speaker 18: was a next year that he thought was winnable and

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Speaker 18: an opportunity to do better than the year before. I

619
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Speaker 18: didn't see that as the opportunity for him to walk

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Speaker 18: away from his career. Like you know, there are two

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Speaker 18: things that could very much be at play here. I

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Speaker 18: mean there's the one, very pragmatic one that perhaps he

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Speaker 18: knew where things stood in his own mind and maybe

624
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Speaker 18: in the franchise's mine and went in and asked Art

625
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Speaker 18: if he was going to get his option picked up

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Speaker 18: for twenty twenty seven, and Art said, no, We're not

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Speaker 18: going to do that. He said, Okay, then I resign

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Speaker 18: that could have been one. That's the practical, pragmatic way

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Speaker 18: of looking at it, and then there's the other way

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Speaker 18: of looking at it, which there's perhaps a little bit

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Speaker 18: more meat on the bone. That's what I wrote about

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Speaker 18: this morning, which is, you know, I heard what Mike

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Speaker 18: said about getting the vibe that he didn't slap down

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Speaker 18: to talk about the future as quickly as possible and

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Speaker 18: the postgame press conference, but you know, I ended up

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Speaker 18: asking him the last question of that press conference, and

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Speaker 18: I got that sense too that he wasn't, as you know,

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Speaker 18: direct in talking about that. So I said, you know,

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Speaker 18: do you think you have the foundation for something that

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Speaker 18: could be better next year?

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Speaker 16: And he answered in the affirmative.

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Speaker 18: So I was like, all right, well, it sounds like

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Speaker 18: he's at least thinking about next year. I don't know

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Speaker 18: what it could have been in those fourteen hours that

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Speaker 18: made him suddenly had the epiphany that it was going

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Speaker 18: to be better in twenty twenty six than twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 18: I don't know what that could have been that made

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Speaker 18: him realize that.

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Speaker 15: So you got the last question and you ended him.

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Speaker 18: I did, and me so that with the last strikeout,

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Speaker 18: I am basically that what was the guy's name from

652
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Speaker 18: Houston Bullock, Kaylon Bullock. I's a Kaylon Bullock of Mike

653
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Speaker 18: Tomlin's career. That was my pick sixth on the way out.

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Speaker 18: Maybe I'll get him to sign the transcript like that

655
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Speaker 18: Houston guy said he wanted to get Rogers to sign

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Speaker 18: the ball.

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Speaker 15: Tim, I think in your pragmatic narrative, I wonder if

658
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Speaker 15: there were gonna be some massive staff changes coming, and

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Speaker 15: I know Mike's never been real a big fan of that.

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Speaker 15: Maybe he either sensed that or was made aware of that.

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Speaker 15: Just throwing that out there.

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Speaker 18: You know, he well, yeah, no, right, And again I

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Speaker 18: think this is we're literally talking about fourteen hours here.

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Speaker 18: And my thinking was, if it did come down to

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Speaker 18: the contract angle, that Mike knew well in advance of

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Speaker 18: the Houston game, probably well in advance of the Ravens game,

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Speaker 18: that he was going to want real quick affirmation that

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Speaker 18: that option was going to be picked up, and if

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Speaker 18: Art said no, we'll find that out maybe later today,

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Speaker 18: then okay, he was going to say I resigned then

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Speaker 18: and end of conversation. Or I think Art had every

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Speaker 18: intention of giving him the option and Tomlin just didn't

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Speaker 18: want to be here anymore. But I have a hard

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Speaker 18: time believing that he had some sort of epiphany or

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Speaker 18: you know it came to him in a dream now

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Speaker 18: after the Houston loss, or a nightmare after the Houston loss,

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Speaker 18: that this is it.

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Speaker 16: I'm out.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I just I don't think he's that reactionary

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Speaker 18: of a person.

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Speaker 5: I think it's possible he looked at a long road

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Speaker 5: ahead in having to rebuild with a brand new quarterback,

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Speaker 5: because that's likely the scenario they're going to have given that.

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Speaker 5: Of all the names being bandied about, have you thought

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Speaker 5: about a replacement that makes the most sense at this point.

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Speaker 18: I'm just gonna who would you say?

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Speaker 3: John Harble?

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Speaker 18: Oh, no, Celia, I had the pin wheel going the

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Speaker 18: right way, Tomlins to Baltimore, Harbaugh to the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And rehired at the Browns. That's what I've been saying, Yes.

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Speaker 18: Because the Browns might do that ye backwards, but I

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Speaker 18: better Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm scouring the landscape for

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Speaker 18: defensive coordinators who are thirty six years old.

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Speaker 3: That's some to them because.

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Speaker 16: That's how Granddad did it.

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Speaker 18: That's how Dad did it, That's how Art the second

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Speaker 18: is going to be inclined to do it.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of revisionist history when coach Kuer left.

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Speaker 5: I remember the we enough of Coward days. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the Steeler fan base was not super sad that Cower

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Speaker 5: stepped down. Now that seems unthinkable, but at the time

702
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Speaker 5: that was actually what was happening. It was not dissimilar

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Speaker 5: to the case of a portion of this fan base

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Speaker 5: being sort of fed up with Tomlin. It never got

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Speaker 5: to the fire Cower point, which I hate. I think

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Speaker 5: that's classless, whether it's Matt Canada or Mike Tomlin. I mean,

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Speaker 5: keep your keep the dirty laundry inside. But anyways, that's

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Speaker 5: just me on a soapbox. How do you think they're

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Speaker 5: going to look back at Mike Tomlin when it's all

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Speaker 5: said and done, if you look back.

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Speaker 18: I've actually found the cowor press conference from yesterday.

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Speaker 16: I tweeted it out.

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Speaker 18: First of all, you just got to look at it

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Speaker 18: to see the sweater that he pulled out that day.

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Speaker 3: That was Cosby special Oh my god.

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Speaker 16: The Cosby Specialist.

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Speaker 18: It is one of the best ones he's ever had.

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Speaker 16: He went out and styled there. But you know, I

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Speaker 16: mean I kind of thought there was a.

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Speaker 18: Rece on the Cower narrative here, like you're right, I

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Speaker 18: mean people.

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Speaker 16: I think people were most fed up with Cowur.

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Speaker 18: Going into the new stadium, you know, after the three

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Speaker 18: years without a playoff berth in ninety eight through two

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Speaker 18: thousand and then, I.

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Speaker 16: Do think there was a reset with a Super Bowl point.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, the way I remember it was wasn't so much

728
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Speaker 18: people were fed up with him and done and wanted

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Speaker 18: to leave again.

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Speaker 3: I just think, like a.

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Speaker 18: Lot of people's minds was Okay, mission accomplished, and if

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Speaker 18: we don't want to have to do a big reboot

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Speaker 18: after the rocky season that followed the Super Bowl, then okay,

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Speaker 18: leave a good team and a good legacy behind for

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Speaker 18: the next guy. And hey, fortunately that happened.

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Speaker 5: Tim Men's Rocky by Don's Appliances from trib Live Sports

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Speaker 5: this morning, and Benzi always appreciate your contribution and congratulations

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Speaker 5: on getting the last question in on Mike Tomlin as

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Speaker 5: head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 18: Hey, and by the way, a little plug coming out

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Speaker 18: later today and later this morning early afternoon today is

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Speaker 18: the thirtieth anniversary of the Harbaugh Heaves at Three Rivers Stadium,

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Speaker 18: the AFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 16: Of nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 18: And I talked to the defensive backs who were in

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Speaker 18: the end zone to bat the ball away from Aaron

747
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Speaker 18: Bailey to send the Steelers to Super Bowl thirty.

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Speaker 3: So you should have let me know it.

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Speaker 5: I got you my buddy Brian Stablein's number, who was

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Speaker 5: in the end zone right behind.

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Speaker 15: Oh yeah, Tim, did you talk to Harbaugh and did

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Speaker 15: he know exactly what coverage they were going to play

753
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 15: and where the blitz was gonna come from and all

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Speaker 15: the particulars.

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Speaker 18: You know, there's that famous clip of him standing in

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Speaker 18: the end zone looking at the jumbo John Replace saying I.

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Speaker 3: Thought he caught it. I thought he caught it.

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Speaker 16: He did not.

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00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 18: It rolled off his tummy and the Steelers went.

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Speaker 3: To the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Denzi, thanks so much, man.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you later. Abbey's got your news. When

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Speaker 3: we return, we.

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Speaker 6: Will talk about Rod Stewart's eighty year old sex life.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's exactly what I want to hear.

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Speaker 5: Charlie Batch at seven to fifteen, Merrill, Hodge, Rob King,

767
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Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler, who along with Schefter, broke the report yesterday,

768
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Speaker 5: Max Stark's Mark Madden.

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Speaker 3: A whole lot of Tomlin talk coming up this morning

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Speaker 3: on DV.

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Speaker 13: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE brought

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Speaker 13: to you by your Neighborhood for its store and Steelers

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Speaker 13: Pro Shop. Get it direct from the team at shop

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Speaker 13: dot Steelers dot com. Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 19: For the first time since two thousand and seven, the

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Speaker 19: Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.

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Speaker 19: Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after

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Speaker 19: nineteen seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: By Tomlin leaves behind a legacy that.

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Speaker 19: Includes a Super Bowl Championship, two AFC Championships, eight AFC

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Speaker 19: North Division titles, thirteen total playoff appearances, and of course,

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Speaker 19: never having had a losing season. The news comes on

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Speaker 19: the heels of the Steelers losing thirty to six of

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Speaker 19: the Texans in the Wildcut round Monday night, team's seventh

785
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Speaker 19: straight playoff loss, the worst than franchise history.

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Speaker 3: Steelers will now enter into a coaching.

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Speaker 19: Market where they will be competing with eight other NFL

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Speaker 19: teams searching for a head coach, including their division rivals

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Speaker 19: Baltimore and Cleveland. As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well,

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Speaker 19: that remains to be seen, although it has been reported

791
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 19: by ESPN's Adam scheffer, that is expected that he will

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Speaker 19: take a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other

793
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 19: ventures like television. Whatever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the

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Speaker 19: Steelers will be looking for just the fourth head coach

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Speaker 19: and team history.

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Speaker 5: Since nineteen sixty nine, and seeing as.

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Speaker 19: The previous three are all Super Bowl champions, two of

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Speaker 19: three are already in Ken with Mike Tomlin surely on

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Speaker 19: his way as the third. Eventually, the shoes are going

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Speaker 19: to be pretty big to fill for whoever does get

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Speaker 19: the job. Steelers owner and president Art Rooney will speak

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Speaker 19: to the media today at noon to address coach Tomlin

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Speaker 19: stepping down.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report.

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Speaker 20: pre own vehicle, guaranteed human.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man certainly disappointing into our season, has certainly got

810
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: to give Houston a lot of credit, in particularly the

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Speaker 4: defensive unit.

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Speaker 3: I thought they ruled the day.

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00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: They certainly had a reputation for that coming in and

814
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: they confirmed it with their performance.

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Speaker 3: And that's just how it.

816
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 5: Goes Mike Tomlin's comments after being defeated by the Houston

817
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Speaker 5: Texans in the wild Card game on Monday night, and

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Speaker 5: it would be about fifteen hours later it would be

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Speaker 5: announced he steps down as the Steelers head coach after

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Speaker 5: nineteen years. I am one of those people who think

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Speaker 5: that this can be mutually beneficial and that I think

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Speaker 5: there needed to be a change. But I am filled

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Speaker 5: with gratitude and appreciation for everything that Mike Tomlin did

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Speaker 5: for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I feel kind of sad

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Speaker 5: and I don't want him to go. And I think

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Speaker 5: the vast majority of Steeler fans have that level of

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Speaker 5: respect for Mike Tomlin and feel sort of the same

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Speaker 5: way that this is not something to be celebrated so

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Speaker 5: much at his leaving so much as the celebration should

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Speaker 5: be about what he accomplished here. We had meaningful football

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Speaker 5: all nineteen years that he coached here. That is unbelievably rare.

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Speaker 5: That is, he is one of one to do that,

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Speaker 5: and there are people who will try to diminish that accomplishment.

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Speaker 5: I've never been one of those people. I've had issues

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Speaker 5: with Coach Tomlin. I don't think there's a coach you

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Speaker 5: can find where I wouldn't as a fan say, ah,

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Speaker 5: I can't stand that he does this. I always thought

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 5: talent assessment was the biggest issue, but I guess that's

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Speaker 5: probably the toughest thing.

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Speaker 3: For any coach GM tandem to pull off.

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Speaker 5: I certainly am not celebrating that Mike Tomlin's gone woo,

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a rough road ahead. This doesn't just

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00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 5: turn around super easy. We're not in a great situation here,

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Speaker 5: so it's gonna be rocky. Also, I acknowledged that things

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Speaker 5: needed to change. I don't think that what we were

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00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: doing was working. That mean I don't think coach Tomlin

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Speaker 5: was an incredible coach.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't an incredible coach? I think he was.

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Speaker 5: I think he is one of the elite motivators in

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Speaker 5: coaching history. I do think that he one of his

851
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: achilles was thinking that every former great player was a

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00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: reclamation project that he could take on and fix, get

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00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: the last good bit of football out of somebody. I

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00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: always described that as he's the guy who goes around

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Speaker 5: instead of refilling the soap dispensers.

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00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: He'd be like, I just put some water in there,

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Speaker 3: shake it up.

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Speaker 5: You can get plenty of soap out of it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like there's no more soap coach Darius

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Speaker 3: Slake can't even run.

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Speaker 5: But that's just because he had great belief in players,

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Speaker 5: and that's why those guys love playing for him.

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Speaker 3: So I'm filled with gratitude and appreciation.

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Speaker 5: For Mike Tomlin. On a personal level. He was a

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Speaker 5: really fun guy to be around. And he was like

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Speaker 5: he was cool, you know what I mean, Like it

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Speaker 5: was fun. When you saw Coach two, you'd be like,

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Speaker 5: oh man, what's up? Like he was, He's good dude.

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Speaker 5: You know cowor wasn't like, you know Cower, You'd be like,

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Speaker 5: oh Jesus, yeah, right, Coach Tomlin was.

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Speaker 3: And the idea here, this one thing I want to

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Speaker 3: push back on to.

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Speaker 5: Is the idea there's a group of people celebrating thinking

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Speaker 5: that they got Tomlin run out of town.

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Speaker 21: Weirdo behavior, just ridiculous. That guy loved Steelers fans. All

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 21: you had to do was spend five minutes with him

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Speaker 21: in Latrobe to see the joy that he gleaned from

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Speaker 21: the crowds that were there to watch them practice. He

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00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 21: had an appreciation for Steeler Nation that went far beyond

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00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 21: anything that these idiots are recognizing and they think that

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Speaker 21: by throwing together some sort of campaign to get him ousted,

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Speaker 21: that that I had anything to do with it. I

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Speaker 21: hate to tell you that his resilience was far greater

884
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Speaker 21: than whatever counter you could have mounted. He was never

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Speaker 21: going to be pushed out. That's not what happened in

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Speaker 21: any way. I think he might have been burned out.

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Speaker 5: I think that there might have been an element of

888
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Speaker 5: truth to what Benzi was saying last hour or two

889
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Speaker 5: about the fact that he might have walked in and

890
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: wanted assurance that his option was going to be picked up,

891
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: and Art Rooney might have just said something along the

892
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Speaker 5: lines of at this time, we can't do that, and

893
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: he said, all right, let's cut this off here. After

894
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: nineteen years and never having a losing season, next year

895
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Speaker 5: was going to be a tough one no matter what,

896
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Speaker 5: because you're starting over and you're looking for your new quarterback.

897
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 5: More to come from so many people, Charlie Batch is

898
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Speaker 5: calling us in a few minutes here, Merrill Hodge, Rob King,

899
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Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler, who broke the story with Schefter yesterday, joins us.

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Speaker 5: A forty five, Max Starks and Mark Madden, so much

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Speaker 5: more to come Abby News.

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Speaker 6: cloudy and rainy today and high of forty six. And

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Speaker 6: we've seen kind of what we do here in the media.

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Speaker 6: I want to remind you that British tabloids are always

907
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Speaker 6: the worst. Okay, there was a headline that caught my

908
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Speaker 6: eye a couple days ago and I thought, like, we

909
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Speaker 6: just don't even know what's happening over there.

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Speaker 7: Half the time.

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Speaker 6: There was a headline that just said Rod Stewart's sexless marriage,

912
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Speaker 6: and like, here's the thing.

913
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Speaker 7: You have to remember, he's eighty it should probably.

914
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Speaker 6: Be a sexless marriage at this point. But it went

915
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Speaker 6: into detail, saying that he and Penny Lancaster are facing

916
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Speaker 6: immense challenges in their marriage, but it's due to his

917
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Speaker 6: demanding schedule at the age of oh.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have time to get it on.

919
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Speaker 6: Because he is making these relentless professional commitments. He's busier

920
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Speaker 6: than ever. He's juggling the one Last Time tour across

921
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Speaker 6: North America. He's got residency shows at Caesar's Palace in

922
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Speaker 6: Las Vegas and studio recordings that showed no signs of

923
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Speaker 6: slowing his prolific career, or apparently he's also working on

924
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Speaker 6: a country album.

925
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Speaker 3: Everybody does.

926
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Speaker 5: I mean, there, I always feel like they're the most

927
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Speaker 5: patronized fan base out there, because Stephen Tyler's like, you

928
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Speaker 5: know what, let's rip off a country album to see

929
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Speaker 5: if these roobs will buy it.

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Speaker 3: That's what it feels like to me.

931
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Speaker 9: You know.

932
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Speaker 5: Hoody was like, well, let's try country, and then it worked.

933
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Speaker 5: He's like, I'm country now, I'm country now. I mean,

934
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Speaker 5: he was a South Carolina guy, so I think he

935
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Speaker 5: had a little he was a little more steeped in

936
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Speaker 5: it than yeah, than most of the people like Rod Stewart.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I also don't think it depends on

938
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Speaker 5: what kind of country, because rock and roll it's not

939
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Speaker 5: too far of a leap from country. You know, there's

940
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Speaker 5: a lot of the foundations are similar.

941
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Maggie May, you could make a country song pretty easily,

942
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Speaker 6: oh my gosh, yeah, and everything. But Penny Lancaster is

943
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Speaker 6: obviously significantly.

944
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Speaker 7: Younger than him.

945
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Speaker 3: How much younger.

946
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Speaker 7: I feel like she's in her sixties.

947
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Speaker 3: She's a spring chicken spring compared.

948
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Speaker 6: But he continues to prioritize his career over his private life.

949
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Speaker 6: She feels neglected and feels like he is married to

950
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Speaker 6: his career instead of her. He used to prioritize their

951
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Speaker 6: private time. He is no longer doing that, so she

952
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Speaker 6: feels like she's single at this point. And again they

953
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Speaker 6: kind of went through a much more British fashion than

954
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Speaker 6: they're just not getting it on anymore.

955
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Speaker 1: Wake up, Penny, it's time to continue to not have send.

956
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Speaker 5: Maybe Penny doesn't want to have sex with eighty year

957
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Speaker 5: old Rod Stewart. Do you ever see that picture of

958
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Speaker 5: Rod Stewart back in his heyday when he was married

959
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Speaker 5: to that sweet Britt Eklund, the Swedish model now, and

960
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Speaker 5: he's like sitting there, he's hanging out by his pool

961
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Speaker 5: and he's wearing a the top is a like a

962
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Speaker 5: track suit, like an Adia's tracksuit from the soccer team

963
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Speaker 5: that he owned, I think, and he just has bikinis

964
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Speaker 5: like bottoms on, you know, oh, like bikini and his

965
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Speaker 5: pubes are flying out. Yeah, just really just tons of

966
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Speaker 5: pubes and he's sitting there and I was like, with

967
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Speaker 5: no shame at all, and I thought like, is that

968
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Speaker 5: a British thing that it's just okay to have your.

969
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Speaker 12: Apparently, No, that was just a row Stewart thing. Yeah,

970
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Speaker 12: oh what year? Oh just google Rod Stewart Brett Ecklin picture.

971
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Speaker 1: Don't search Ron Stewart pube computer.

972
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Speaker 7: Randy is going to search that.

973
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Speaker 5: Never mind. Oh yeah, this is not my computer.

974
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Speaker 7: Worry about that.

975
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Speaker 5: Cubes and then you hit image. Yeah, right there, I

976
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Speaker 5: mean the first thing that comes up. Yeah, yeah, there

977
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Speaker 5: you go. Nineteen seventy five. It was a different times hack, right,

978
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Speaker 5: it was a different staring out.

979
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Speaker 7: Of there also with a shag haircut.

980
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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

981
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Speaker 5: I mean, she's so incredibly beautiful that your eye is

982
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: kind of drawn away for a moment, and then you

983
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Speaker 5: notice that it looks like he's got Rosie Greer in

984
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Speaker 5: a headlock, and you think her leg lock. I should

985
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Speaker 5: say Rosie Greer. Kids, look it up. Google it free

986
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 5: to be you and me.

987
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Speaker 6: I mean, he is worth three hundred million dollars according

988
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Speaker 6: to this article, So if I were a penny, I

989
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Speaker 6: would say that's a pretty good consolation prize to not

990
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Speaker 6: having sex with an eighty year old man.

991
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Speaker 5: All I know is, you know, he essentially took over

992
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Speaker 5: for one of the all time great singers when he

993
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Speaker 5: took over it, when faces went from small faces to

994
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Speaker 5: faces And why am I blanking on his name?

995
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Speaker 7: Mary? Yes, one of my favorite singers of all time.

996
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 5: Yes, but who else could have done that except for

997
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: Rod Stewart?

998
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 7: Completely agree?

999
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, And also at this moment he looks like Lady Elaine,

1000
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Speaker 6: he kind.

1001
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Speaker 3: Of does unfortunately.

1002
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Speaker 5: Joining us right now from the Steelers Audio Network, brought

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Speaker 5: to you by Edgars Knighter and Associate its local lawyers

1004
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Speaker 5: helping local people.

1005
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Speaker 3: Charlie Batch.

1006
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Speaker 5: And Charlie I know you were on the NFL Network

1007
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: yesterday talking about this. Pretty shocking the news, the way

1008
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: that it broke, It was very sudden. I wasn't I

1009
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been surprised if a change were in the works,

1010
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 5: but to have come down that quickly after losing to

1011
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Speaker 5: Houston on Monday night was a big surprise.

1012
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that was the part that shocked me more than anything,

1013
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 11: just on the timing of it and how quickly it happened,

1014
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 11: because that took me right back to you know, obviously

1015
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 11: twenty years ago when coach Kawer was going through it.

1016
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Speaker 11: We had our team meeting after the two thousand and

1017
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Speaker 11: six season, and then we even had exit interviews with

1018
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Speaker 11: the head coach and then ultimately a decision was made

1019
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 11: after all the players left the building. But in this case,

1020
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 11: it sounds like he went into the team meeting alerted

1021
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 11: everybody at that time, so everybody was shocked learning that news. So, yeah,

1022
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Speaker 11: that was the part that got me more than anything.

1023
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Speaker 3: Now.

1024
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's reported that it was of his own

1025
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 5: volition that Mike Tomlin wanted the change, but you suggested

1026
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 5: that maybe he got nudged.

1027
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's possible, and.

1028
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 11: I think ultimately when you look at this whole thing,

1029
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Speaker 11: and the reason why I didn't think he was going

1030
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Speaker 11: to get fired was because the money that was owed

1031
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 11: to him and being around the Steelers organization for twenty

1032
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Speaker 11: four years now, I've never seen the Rooney family fire

1033
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 11: coach and allow him to sit home and collect money,

1034
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Speaker 11: and I thought ultimately there would be some type of

1035
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 11: mutual understanding how do you resolve the money issue. But

1036
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Speaker 11: because he was not fired, now that steal comes into

1037
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Speaker 11: play because Mike Tolland is not a free agent, so

1038
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Speaker 11: he cannot go and sign wherever he chooses to go

1039
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 11: to without the permission of the organization. So the Steelers

1040
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 11: still control his rights and if he chooses to go

1041
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 11: somewhere else, whether it's this year potentially next year, the

1042
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 11: Steelers rule won compensation for this, So this is still

1043
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 11: a story in progress for sure, Charlie.

1044
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: They've had a type over the years.

1045
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Speaker 15: They find a young, up and coming to fail coach

1046
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 15: and hire a guy who they think has the tools

1047
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 15: and can grow into the job and be there a

1048
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Speaker 15: long time. They did that three times in the last

1049
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 15: what sixty something years? Each guy won at least won

1050
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 15: Super Bowl. But has the game changed and is it

1051
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 15: time to look for a young, offensive minded coach?

1052
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1053
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Speaker 11: And I think, you know, just based off of comments

1054
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 11: that you read throughout the years, especially the last couple

1055
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 11: of years, you know, you start to kind of see

1056
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Speaker 11: as this shifting offense is happening.

1057
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Speaker 3: Through the league.

1058
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you want to score more points, so you're starting

1059
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 11: to see people lean in that direction.

1060
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Speaker 3: You know, where do you go? Where do you look for?

1061
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Speaker 3: You know?

1062
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Speaker 11: And ultimately you know, is that coach out there? And

1063
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Speaker 11: I think as this process happens, I think the Ruinies

1064
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Speaker 11: will take their time like they always have done. Even

1065
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Speaker 11: though you do have a few teams that are a

1066
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Speaker 11: week ahead of them with their interviews. But what direction

1067
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Speaker 11: that he chooses to go is obviously going to be

1068
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Speaker 11: something that we're all.

1069
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Speaker 16: Paying attention to, only because he wants.

1070
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Speaker 11: To get it right and making sure that you're not

1071
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Speaker 11: making this coaching decision every four to five years. He

1072
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Speaker 11: wonts somebody who's going to be here ten plus years?

1073
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Speaker 3: Did you feel it was time for a change.

1074
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Speaker 11: I didn't necessarily feel it was time for a change

1075
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Speaker 11: because I've been.

1076
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Speaker 16: On some bad teams. I was in Detroit.

1077
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Speaker 11: And then when you have an organization who's learning how

1078
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 11: to or trying to learn how to win, versus one

1079
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Speaker 11: who knows how to win, you understand, yes, you can

1080
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Speaker 11: be right there on edge and you just need a

1081
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 11: little nudge to kind of get over that hurdle. And

1082
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Speaker 11: I think that's ultimately what I feel needed to happen here. Listen,

1083
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 11: the move is made and now Steeler fans who wanted

1084
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 11: Tomlin gone got their wish. And ultimately, and I would

1085
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 11: always ask be well, if he's gone, who would you want?

1086
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 11: And there's a well anybody but him? And I said,

1087
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Speaker 11: the process is not that easy. Who else is out there?

1088
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 11: And I think ultimately I just developed that a.

1089
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Speaker 16: Little bit more help nudging mirror.

1090
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Speaker 11: Ultimately, you still stay stable because you're winning ten wins.

1091
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 11: Now you're trying to get to that fourteenth win ultimately,

1092
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Speaker 11: which is a super Bowl title if you had to

1093
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Speaker 11: go on the.

1094
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: Road and do that. So I just think we're there.

1095
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 11: I just think now an ultimate reset this is going

1096
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 11: to be something that is going to be challenging only

1097
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 11: because the next head coach is not inheriting a Ben Roethlisberger.

1098
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 11: You now have to rebuild at that quarterback position. So

1099
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Speaker 11: this is going to be a process for sure.

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Speaker 5: In appreciation of what Mike Tomlin did here, you played

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 5: for Mike Tomlin. What was it in your mind that

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Speaker 5: made him special, set him apart from other head coaches.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, for me, it was always the communication because when

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00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 11: he stepped into a room, his message was always clear

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00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 11: and concise and he was able to communicate that which

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00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 11: a lot of Steelers' Nation, you know, fell in love

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 11: with his press conferences and its tolinisms and those type

1108
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 11: of things. And that was the part that you always

1109
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 11: appreciated in my relationship with them. And quite frankly, it

1110
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 11: was different because he was only three years older than me, right,

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00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 11: you know, we stepped into the meeting he's coached Tomlin,

1112
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 11: but if we're out on the street, your mic to me,

1113
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 11: and that's just where we were.

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00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: And we had a really good rapport.

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 11: That way, and he was able to balance that not

1116
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 11: only with myself but with multiple players, especially when the

1117
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 11: age gap became greater and greater.

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 16: And that was the things that I just truly appreciate.

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00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 11: The players still the message still resonated with these guys,

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Speaker 11: and I think ultimately when you hear and read the comments,

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00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 11: even when he did make the med that they delivered

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00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 11: the message to the team.

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Speaker 16: His players gave.

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Speaker 11: Him a stand in ovation because not just what he

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Speaker 11: did currently, but just the length of his career.

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Speaker 16: And people appreciate that, and I appreciate it.

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 11: What him and his family has done for not only

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Speaker 11: Latasha and I, but our foundation as a whole.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you see there being one thing or a

1130
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: couple of things that might have changed his fortune? I mean,

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00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: I talked about his inflexibility with some things and possibly

1132
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 5: not adapting to the changes in the NFL as being

1133
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 5: you know, one of one of the achilles that he had.

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Speaker 5: Is there anything that you think, like, boy, if you

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00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 5: might have just accepted this he would have had a

1136
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 5: you know, a better outcome in terms of playoff success

1137
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 5: or is that just how the cookie crumbles in the

1138
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 5: NF fell And you know, it's hard to win, it's

1139
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 5: hard to get playoff success.

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Speaker 11: It is, and I think, you know, there's a lot

1141
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 11: of that all that that combines there, and I think

1142
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 11: ultimately everybody's trying to win, you know, right with one

1143
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 11: of his phrases was football is our game. Winning is

1144
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 11: our business, and that's how we're evaluated. But I think

1145
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 11: ultimately people are growing They were growing weary of that

1146
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 11: because you're not having a success in the playoffs. But listen,

1147
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 11: that's what happens when you come out the gate hot

1148
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 11: and you win a super Bowl in your second year,

1149
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 11: you go your second super Bowl in your fifty year.

1150
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 11: That's the expectation that everybody wants you to continue to have.

1151
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 11: It's not just the winning seasons. And those are things

1152
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 11: that ultimately kind of played out. But I think it

1153
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 11: really all came to a head in November when those

1154
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 11: boot burrs came out.

1155
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 16: Maybe he's thinking maybe.

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00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 11: Potentially down that road, but when it started to happen

1157
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 11: and ultimately not having a success in the playoffs sometimes

1158
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 11: there is a point where you say the time is now,

1159
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 11: and ultimately that decision was made and here we are

1160
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 11: reacting to it.

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Speaker 5: Charlie Badger and the Steelers Audio Network. Charlie, thanks as always, Buddy,

1162
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: appreciate your time this morning.

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00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, I appreciate you.

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00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 5: Thanks for having Okay Man, We'll see him.

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00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: We got a lot more to come.

1166
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 5: Merrill Hodge, Rob King, Jeremy Fowler, who broke the story

1167
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 5: with Adam Schefter yesterday eight forty five, Max Starks and

1168
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: Mark Madden still the come, plus Mike Persuda with the

1169
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: latest on what happens now.

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Speaker 3: Art Rooney's gonna speak with the media today, Mike.

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00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 15: Just yeah, he's gonna speak, and then he's gonna go

1172
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 15: out to the coach store and get a great coach

1173
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 15: and they're gonna win a Super Bowl next year. No

1174
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 15: prom because it was all Tomlin's fault. Well, the only

1175
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 15: thing holding them back was Tomlin.

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00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: That's it. They should have done this ten years ago.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who think that, you know,

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00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: I like what Charlie said, though he used a victim

1179
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 5: of his own success. You know, super Bowl in year

1180
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: two and then year five, you go back and it's

1181
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 5: like you set the bar so.

1182
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 15: Well, and you know part of the non losing seasons

1183
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 15: thing that it was not the ultimate goal, but that

1184
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 15: seemed to be the ceiling the last nine years, and

1185
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 15: that was an issue to a lot of people, no.

1186
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: Doubt about it. All Right.

1187
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 5: The latest when we returned, Mike Tomlin stepping down a

1188
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: Steeler's head coach at your radio home of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: Steelers one on two point five.

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Speaker 15: To the news of Mike Thomlin's resignation breaking mid afternoon yesterday.

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 15: A lot of people taken by surprise, I'm guessing it

1197
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 15: even those who thought this might be a possibility that

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00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 15: was probably a very small number weren't expecting it. In

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Speaker 15: the immediate aftermath of Texans thirty Steelers six, I was

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Speaker 15: driving home from here we taped the Extra point yesterday, myself,

1201
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 15: Rob King and Matt Williamson, and I was listening to

1202
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 15: serious Radio because Steve Bushatti, the Ravens owner, was having

1203
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 15: a press conference to detail why he fired John Harbaugh.

1204
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: And that's when Bashati found doubt at Pittsburgh he did.

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: Is it official? That's what I keep hearing. So is

1206
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 3: he a candidate? Here?

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Speaker 23: Holy Mike, wouldn't that be awesome? Only if John takes

1208
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 23: the Pittsburgh child. Wow, wouldn't that be interesting? I don't

1209
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 23: know that that thing last week maybe disqualified one of

1210
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 23: my He did the kiss the opening after our kicker,

1211
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 23: mister kick to let them advance. Good for Mike, Yeah,

1212
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Speaker 23: I don't know, talk to him.

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Speaker 3: I love Mike.

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Speaker 23: I mean I've I've admired Mike for eighteen years and

1215
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 23: that's really uh shocking that that that he did it

1216
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 23: that way.

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00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's kind of craz He didn't say no.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I don't think Tomlin switching jobs.

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Speaker 5: And again, like I said, Stefanski gets rehired by the Browns.

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Speaker 3: That makes the most sense or tame that the Bengals

1221
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: for Zach Taylor in the fifth rout. Zach Taylor's getting

1222
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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin Right now.

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Speaker 5: We talked about Tomlin being a victim of his own success,

1224
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: you know, same as Zach Taylor. Expectations get set high,

1225
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 5: you don't get back there. People are like, all right,

1226
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: you can't do it anymore next.

1227
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Speaker 15: Probably that going on in Detroit, Michigan too. I think

1228
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Speaker 15: definitely I never quite got there. He got to the brink,

1229
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 15: Dan Campbell did.

1230
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Speaker 5: I think Buffalo was approaching that point, man, But now

1231
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, dude, that defense he's

1232
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 5: doing some cool things. So at any rate with Mike Tomlin,

1233
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Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be coaching anywhere next year.

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: Too much would have to happen for that to be

1235
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: the case, because the Steelers still retain the rights to

1236
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin.

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did have to get some compensation, Yeah, a

1238
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: little something for the effort. It's not that much to happen.

1239
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: He was out fifty million dollars and he walked away

1240
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: from that. I might have toughed it out. I might

1241
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: have toughed it out.

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Speaker 3: Well, think you about the last fifty he had a

1243
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: chance to earn. Well, that's just it is.

1244
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 5: I think that he's looking at it and his agent's going, hey,

1245
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 5: you'll go make twenty eight next year for you know, Fox,

1246
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 5: If you want to go and sit next to Howie

1247
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 5: and Terry.

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: He might be like, I'd rather talk to Tim Bins,

1249
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: but that would be shocked.

1250
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 5: Ye still though, when he returns to coaching, because I

1251
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: don't think there's any doubt he's going to and is

1252
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 5: if the reports are true, Tad apparently it has to

1253
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 5: be warm weather. He's he's gotten very dainty in his demands. Yeah, right,

1254
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: it's critical. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he

1255
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: ends up in Tampa in two years.

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Speaker 3: That's where he started.

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Speaker 5: I could see him going right back there and that

1258
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 5: if there was any truth to the warm weather demand,

1259
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 5: it would fit that bill too.

1260
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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's going to be coaching next year.

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Speaker 5: I genuinely think he's burnt and wants a little bit

1262
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 5: of a break here and fresh recharge and get back

1263
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 5: at it. And also to the whole point of this,

1264
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 5: the money will be insane when he comes back, so

1265
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: giving up this fifty doesn't matter.

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Speaker 15: Included in Mike Tomlins's statement released yesterday, quote, I want

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Speaker 15: to thank Steeler Nation. Your passion, loyalty, and high expectations

1268
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 15: represent what makes this franchise truly special. Coaching in Pittsburgh

1269
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 15: is unlike anywhere else, and I will always take great

1270
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Speaker 15: pride in having been a steward of this team. Well,

1271
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Speaker 15: this chapter comes to a close, my respect and love

1272
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 15: for the Pittsburgh Steelers will never change. I'm excited for

1273
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Speaker 15: what the future holds for this organization, and I will

1274
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Speaker 15: forever be grateful for my time coaching in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I think when his history is.

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Speaker 15: Written here, the reason there wasn't more success, the reason

1277
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Speaker 15: there wasn't ultimate success, is the player evaluation component, as

1278
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Speaker 15: he might do.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the first thing.

1280
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Speaker 5: And the second thing is his reluctance to allow for

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Speaker 5: coordinators to be independent and people who have had success.

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Speaker 3: You and I disagree on this.

1283
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Speaker 5: I always think his lack of a coaching tree is

1284
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Speaker 5: an indictment.

1285
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying you don't have good coaches. I'm

1286
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: just saying maybe you need better coaches.

1287
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But Randy Fiekner, you know, I think the best

1288
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 5: coaches he had are the ones he inherited when he

1289
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 5: when he got on the job, and the fall off

1290
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Speaker 5: after was precipitous. And I don't think that's a coincidence

1291
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Speaker 5: with the lack of postseason success.

1292
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Speaker 15: Although One of the reasons he got the job was

1293
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Speaker 15: he was in agreement to keep Lebau Dick Lebaux on

1294
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Speaker 15: his defensive coordinator and Bruce Arians And this was a

1295
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Speaker 15: defensive coach, yes, who agreed to have a legendary defensive

1296
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Speaker 15: coach stay on his staff. So, you know, maybe just

1297
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Speaker 15: made some wrong decisions there. I don't think he wanted

1298
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Speaker 15: bad coaches, and I don't think no. I think he

1299
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Speaker 15: wanted to be in control, is my point. Well, that

1300
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Speaker 15: certainly does not make exclusive in the NFL head coach.

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Speaker 3: I know that, But that I think was he was

1302
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: stirring too many pots.

1303
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Speaker 15: Maybe a couple of other arguments I'd like to shoot down.

1304
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Speaker 15: The idea that he had an outdated philosophy always made

1305
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 15: me laugh. You know, he wants to run the ball

1306
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Speaker 15: too much. Last year they got run over by the

1307
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Speaker 15: Ravens who ran them out of the playoffs, and then

1308
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Speaker 15: the Eagles won the Super Bowl by running the ball.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he wanted to run the ball to

1310
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Speaker 3: I don't think he ran the ball enough.

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Speaker 15: And then defensively, you know he wants these low scoring

1312
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Speaker 15: defensive struggles. Well, when he had Ben Roethlisberger, he did

1313
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Speaker 15: and he wanted to score thirty eight points, and when

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Speaker 15: he had Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown, he wanted to

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Speaker 15: throw it all over the yard. He wanted to do

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Speaker 15: what he thought his players could do. And the idea

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Speaker 15: that defense doesn't matter anymore, well, they just got smashed

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Speaker 15: by the best defense in the NFL. I mean, these

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Speaker 15: things don't go out of start. Running the ball, having

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Speaker 15: a great defense, and being plus minus in turnover do

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 15: not go out of style. They're not exclusive to Mike

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Speaker 15: Tomlin or how the game's played.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you there.

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Speaker 5: I think that they didn't have the level of success

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Speaker 5: that he wanted to in those areas and that's what

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Speaker 5: bit them, no question in the a yeah.

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Speaker 15: Like people saying, you know, his philosophy's wrong or the

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Speaker 15: game's passed him by.

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Speaker 3: No, the philosophy right.

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Speaker 5: But again, you know, schematically, if you don't have the

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Speaker 5: badasses that Houston has, you kind of have to do

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Speaker 5: some things to take it up.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think you with Darius Slay and one

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Speaker 3: thorn Hill can do. You got a problem.

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Speaker 15: Then you're going on to scrap Peep and picking up

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Speaker 15: Kyle Duggan and you still got a problem. If you

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Speaker 15: think Roman Wilson's worth a third round pick and he

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Speaker 15: ends up not being that. You got a problem, and

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Speaker 15: then you end up going to the scratch like that's

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Speaker 15: a hard way to get it done.

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Speaker 5: He sat on this show and said the defense had

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Speaker 5: a chance to be historic, which was hyperbolic for Mike

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Speaker 5: Tomlin to say something like that, who would you know

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Speaker 5: say that all the time.

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Speaker 3: We all have a chance to be great. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's what this is all about.

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Speaker 5: But for him to go out on the limb and

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Speaker 5: say that that he was that confident because of Jayalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 5: because of Darius Lay, because of Thornhill, because of TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watbi and full Bore and Derek Harmon joining the defensive line,

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Speaker 5: and Herbig also having another year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all of that. Yes, Sawyer was.

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Speaker 5: Actually another one of a piece of that puzzle that

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Speaker 5: just told me in retrospect, like, man, he overestimated what

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Speaker 5: these guys could do by leaps and bounds.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I wonder if this is just pure speculation

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Speaker 15: on my part, but they put so much time, effort,

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Speaker 15: energy resources into making the run defense better and rebuilding

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Speaker 15: the secondary, and when they needed it most, the run

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Speaker 15: defense was not better and the secondary was not better.

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Speaker 15: And I wonder if he thought, Wow, maybe I need

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Speaker 15: to rethink some stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah maybe, I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 5: see what happens. Now, turning to the future, who's the

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Speaker 5: new stealer head? It's going to be? I keep hearing

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Speaker 5: Chris Shula, Marcus Freeman, Brian Flores. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 5: it was a bad move to let Brian Flores walk

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Speaker 5: out in the first place. Imagine if you never let

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Speaker 5: Mike Munchak go. Imagine if you had Munchak and Brian Flores. Well,

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Speaker 5: it's a whole lot different from what they had at

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator in Tarrell Austin, no doubt, and in Randy Fiekner,

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Speaker 5: Matt Canada and Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 3: Don't the college guys make more than the NFL guys?

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Speaker 3: They do, now, I believe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why everybody's talking about Signetti coming here.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I think he's good. And is Freeman gonna

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Speaker 3: get the schedule Navy and Purdue?

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Speaker 15: Where did Marcus Freeman guarantee him a spot in the playoffs?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Right?

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Speaker 3: How did that name get thrown into the mix?

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Speaker 15: If based on what these things happen and his names appear.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of times it's agents that that,

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Speaker 5: you know, put that stuff in.

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Speaker 15: You feel like they got a writer say something, so

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Speaker 15: they writer or say something and just move on.

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Speaker 3: You know, that wasn't anywhere near in the same ballpark.

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Speaker 5: Merrill Hodge joins us next and we'll talk about what

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin steps down as head coach of the Steelers

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Speaker 5: I'm not feeling too celebratory today.

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Speaker 3: I I uh, as much as I think.

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Speaker 5: A change needed to happen, I am only filled with

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Speaker 5: gratitude at what Mike Tomlin did for us here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not one of those people who are cheering

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Speaker 5: this change. Thinking list solves everything. I don't know where

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Speaker 5: you fall in this argument, but I know you have

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Speaker 5: an appreciation for Mike Tomlin's abilities as a coach, and

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Speaker 5: you can speak to that first if you'd like. But

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Speaker 5: did you think this was the right time for a

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Speaker 5: change for both Mike and the organization?

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Speaker 24: Well, I'll just answered the first one is yeah. I

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 24: think that they all felt that, and I think that's

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01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 24: actually you know, I think Mike's not dumb man, you know,

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 24: I think Mike sensed it too, and instead of you know,

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Speaker 24: thinking about it, I think all of these Chuck, Bill

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 24: and Mike all resigned. Correct me if I'm wrong. Nobody

1446
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 24: got fired. I don't think ex serious. I've ever fired

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01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 24: a head coach in like almost seventy years. Okay, they've

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 24: all decided to move on, and I think all of them,

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 24: you know, felt that that there was time that they

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 24: needed to move on and best for not just them,

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Speaker 24: but I.

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Speaker 3: Think the organization. So I'd say yes to that. Now.

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Speaker 24: I'm fortunate that I played for two of the three

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Speaker 24: coaches in CEO history, which is when I when I

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Speaker 24: said that, I can't even believe I can say that.

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Speaker 24: You know, two of them ended up being in the

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Speaker 24: Hall of Famers. I remember when Chuck left, you could

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Speaker 24: fill it in the air the last few weeks you

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Speaker 24: just could feel either there was something different. We didn't

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Speaker 24: know he was going to resign, but there was something

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Speaker 24: different in the air. Then were Bill Cower left as

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Speaker 24: a ESPN at the time, And I remember ESPN came

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Speaker 24: to me, They're like, oh my gosh, some my gosh,

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Speaker 24: who do you think on their staff is going to

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Speaker 24: be the next head coach? I said, they all better

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Speaker 24: run for their lives to think nobody could be the

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Speaker 24: next head coach there if they do what they normally do.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 24: And I go and I can't tell you how good

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Speaker 24: the head coach would be and telling you can tell

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Speaker 24: me whose staff is period. That's really what makes a

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Speaker 24: great head coach. But then I got to work with Mike.

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Speaker 24: You know, I didn't play for him, but if I

1474
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 24: worked with him, I've been in the same room with him.

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Speaker 24: I've watched my parade and and you know, correct me if'

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 24: wrong on this one. But the Steeders will probably end

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Speaker 24: up with three Hall of Fame coaches back to back

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Speaker 24: to back.

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Speaker 3: Ye when it's all.

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Speaker 24: Said and done, I enjoyed working with my because you know,

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Speaker 24: he's unique and how he goes about things, he's confident,

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Speaker 24: and how he goes about.

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Speaker 3: Things, he models things.

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Speaker 24: And I'm going to leave it right there, because the

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Speaker 24: greatest you can take leadership and you can say, hey,

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Speaker 24: here's the five principles in leadership, and which one's most important.

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Speaker 24: I think all of them usually are. But if I

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Speaker 24: had to pick one, it's like there's one that this

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Speaker 24: is just concrete, it never goes wrong.

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Speaker 3: And that's modeling, you know.

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Speaker 24: Because what you see somebody do is going to be

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Speaker 24: far more impactful than what you hear them say, especially

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Speaker 24: if it doesn't match.

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Speaker 3: Now, if they say something and then they model it,

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Speaker 3: which Bill Cower Chuck. No, they were impeccable with that,

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Speaker 3: and so is Mike. And so.

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Speaker 24: You listen, nineteen years something to not be like feel

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Speaker 24: like there's something. Listen, my wife is one of the

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Speaker 24: biggest steel fans. I can't eve watch TV with the

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Speaker 24: game sometimes because within thirty seconds of the game, if

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Speaker 24: something doesn't go right, it's over, you know.

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Speaker 3: And she's Italian. So he's a Steelers fan. No, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he said he's a Steelers fan.

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Speaker 5: I know, yeah, ok, yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: Right right.

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Speaker 24: So I'm sitting there, that's crazy because say I didn't

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Speaker 24: I got I got drafted by the Pittsburgh Steels. I

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Speaker 24: didn't live in Pittsford. I didn't grow up in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 24: I'm like, I'm watching somebody who grew up in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 24: and I'm like, Wow, that's Od's what I loved about

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Speaker 24: the Steelers fan that they are so passionate, they are

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Speaker 24: so committed. And let me tell you this. I think

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Speaker 24: I've told this before many times. When I was a

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Speaker 24: year fan for some twenty five years, everybody that I

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Speaker 24: got to work with that was not a Pittsburgh steel Fan,

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Speaker 24: every one of them referred to the Steelers fan as

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Speaker 24: being the best.

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Speaker 3: And here's why they're a smart fan. Do they get mad,

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Speaker 3: do they get angry, Yes, but they.

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Speaker 24: Appreciate your one percent commitment win or lose, then know

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Speaker 24: you gave everything you had. Okay, they can say they

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Speaker 24: can swallow that they want champ they want championship, absolutely,

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Speaker 24: but they can accept somebody who gave everything they have.

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Speaker 3: It just didn't work out for us. MARYL.

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Speaker 5: Well, what I wanted to ask you that, duvetailing into

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Speaker 5: your experience working with Mike one of the knots against him.

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 5: Did you ever sense that he was reluctant to accept

1528
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 5: feedback from those around him, or that he was reluctant

1529
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 5: to put the best people in the room as he

1530
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 5: possibly could to come out with the best performance that

1531
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 5: the team could muster.

1532
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 24: Now you could sit there, Here's where I he was

1533
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 24: off coach too. Okay, so I didn't just play off coach.

1534
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 24: I've been a position coach, coordinator and a head coach,

1535
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 24: and I've always believed I'll go back to what I

1536
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 24: said at the very beginning. When Bill Tower came or

1537
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 24: if they were going to go Chuck n or Bill resigned,

1538
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 24: They're like, who's you know, who's going to be the

1539
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 24: next head coach and how good will they be? I

1540
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 24: was like, until I know the staff, I cannot really

1541
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 24: tell you.

1542
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: And that is lead the truth. And if you look

1543
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 3: at it at his history, he's.

1544
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 24: He hasn't put the you know, smarter people around as

1545
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 24: smart as people that he can round. The tree tells

1546
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 24: you that, you know, if there is there was one

1547
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 24: flaw that Mike, Mike had maybe was not the evaluation

1548
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 24: of coaches and getting people in that you know, we're

1549
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 24: just smarter in an area. It's nice to be in

1550
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 24: a room and come up with an idea and then

1551
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 24: have somebody go, well, I think we should do it,

1552
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 24: and you're like, oh, yeah, that's smart.

1553
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: That's better now, I did you know, And if there was,

1554
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: probably in.

1555
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 24: The nineteen years there was never really any you know,

1556
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 24: great depth around him aside from initially, you.

1557
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 5: Know, the transition came with quite a stable of coordinators, right.

1558
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 24: And so you know those guys never really eclipsed like

1559
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 24: you know, true greatness. So they moved on and evolved.

1560
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 24: So you know, the evaluation of staff. But you know,

1561
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 24: I could tell you this, he has a great in

1562
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 24: what he does in a commitment to what he does,

1563
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 24: and sometimes you don't really go back and look until

1564
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 24: you can just remove yourself and reflect on stuff.

1565
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, you're in the blender.

1566
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 24: It's hard to see what's going on sometimes, and so

1567
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 24: I did give him that liberty because that's happened to

1568
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 24: me many times. You're in the blender, and there wasn't

1569
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 24: until I got out of the blender that I was like, Okay, wow, jeez,

1570
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 24: I couldn't see it in the blender, but man, I

1571
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 24: got it out of it, and see, it's easy to

1572
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 24: judge from the outside. Now I have a perspective of that,

1573
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 24: so I can evaluate that a little better. But I

1574
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 24: also do know when you're in the blender, it's hard.

1575
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 24: It's so hard. And listen what he did for nineteen years.

1576
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 24: If you just listed all the things, you know, a

1577
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 24: lot of them are never been done.

1578
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: You know that.

1579
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 24: Don't never take that lightly. The leave's been around one

1580
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 24: hundred years or more. I mean a lot of great coaches,

1581
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 24: great coaches, Hall of fame coaches, some that he proceeded

1582
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 24: that didn't do what he did, you know, just to

1583
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 24: put it in light of the greatness that he did,

1584
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 24: he did have and I think every coach could go

1585
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 24: back and go about even Chuck No who I think

1586
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 24: he is the greatest leader I have ever seen, the

1587
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 24: greatest man I've ever been around. Still with this day,

1588
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 24: nobody has ever eclipsed him. And I could go back

1589
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 24: and look at things that we could have done, like

1590
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 24: his his commitment to being physical and practice. I'm telling

1591
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 24: you that Friday we were just like I don't know

1592
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 24: if I got enough for Sunday.

1593
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: You know. So there's a lot of.

1594
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 24: Things you know, that evolved in and change over time

1595
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 24: that somebody could go back. But here's why I give

1596
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 24: all three of them. In the environment they were in,

1597
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 24: all the information they had at that time, they did

1598
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 24: their very best, and they gave everything they had. And

1599
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 24: there's nothing more you can ask of a human being

1600
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 24: in those two things.

1601
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 3: Uh. Do you have a favorite tomlinism? We'll go out

1602
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: on that. I don't.

1603
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 5: Did you like that that technique using the metaphoric and

1604
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 5: may well?

1605
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 24: Yes, I like those of things like because I think

1606
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 24: they could be powerful, especially when you you've implemented that,

1607
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 24: you've implemented in your life, you know the effects they

1608
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 24: can have. Uh, Like I've always been like as a kid,

1609
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 24: I ran across Aristotle on accident. I don't know who

1610
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 24: that guy was at the time, and I don't even

1611
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 24: know why. I read the stuff he reads more more.

1612
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 24: I read the margin that.

1613
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: I became.

1614
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 24: So stowing stuff like to me resonates with me, and

1615
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 24: I was so what he does says stuff, I get that.

1616
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 24: I get where that's coming from, you know, and how

1617
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 24: it resonates in his life, and he transfers it to

1618
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 24: the people he's leading, you know, and or the people's

1619
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 24: trying to explain stuff too. So uh, I think he

1620
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 24: was a trific head coach. I think he's unique in

1621
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 24: his in his approach to it. I think he was

1622
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 24: a tripic leader period, and his history will speak for

1623
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 24: itself when he's when he goes to the Hall of Fame.

1624
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 5: Minds again will forever be there's a fine line between

1625
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 5: between drinking wine and stomping grapes.

1626
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1627
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 24: See, you know something, if you know the first time

1628
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 24: you hear that, you start going, you got to make

1629
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 24: a sink.

1630
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 5: I know.

1631
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 24: That's one thing I think you're trying to do is

1632
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 24: makes you think, you know.

1633
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: Because it's not the norm. Yeah, so you know that

1634
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people go ahead.

1635
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 5: Do you think he'll stay on TV, like you know,

1636
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 5: he's gonna head back to coaching.

1637
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 3: No, I think he goes to TV. I don't do.

1638
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 24: Here's any doubt because when listen, he the Steelers if

1639
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 24: he has another year on his contract, right too? Yeah,

1640
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 24: okay too, so he can't coach. Look, I guess you

1641
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 24: can't coach, you know, but the Steels, he's not gonna.

1642
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 24: I believe he's going to television. I have no information

1643
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 24: on that. I just believe that when you resign, you

1644
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 24: have two years you'll go. You're gonna go onto television.

1645
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 24: You're gonna go on to broadcasting. That's what I believe.

1646
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 5: Merril Hodge brought to you by Castle Rock Hormone Health

1647
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 5: in south Field, Key this morning on DV. Love me, Meryl,

1648
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 5: Thanks buddy. We'll talk to you next week. Absolutely all right, man,

1649
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 5: we'll see it when we come back. Tad Whistle's thoughts

1650
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 5: on coach Tomlin's tenure here in Pittsburgh. Rob King, voice

1651
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 5: of the Steelers on the Steelers Audio Network, joining US

1652
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: eight forty five. Jeremy Fowler, who broke the story along

1653
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 5: with Adam Schefter fre ESPN yesterday. Max Stark's Mark Madden

1654
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 5: all still to come and we'll go.

1655
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: Over some of our favorite tomlinisms for you.

1656
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 5: There certainly are plenty to choose from. Some of them

1657
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 5: drove me crazy, but that's part of the power of them,

1658
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 5: as they're supposed to drive the standard. Is the standard

1659
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 5: used to drive me nuts? I'm like, that's too vague.

1660
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 5: Let's just doha. So yeah, and also Abby will have

1661
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 5: some news later this morning nine am.

1662
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: We'll check back in what's going on.

1663
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 5: News because it's kind of a slow news day outside

1664
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 5: of Mike Tomlin.

1665
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: Right, I don't think.

1666
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 7: We care about anything other than Mike Tomlin.

1667
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 6: But you know what will restore people's trust in their

1668
01:20:55,479 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 6: nightly news alcohol agreed, That is what could potentially be

1669
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,440
Speaker 6: coming to CBS whiskey Fridays.

1670
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's Look.

1671
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 5: If there's one thing that the evening news is needed,

1672
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 5: it's a touch of booze.

1673
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 23: Yeah, Meryl Hodge, Here, I faced a lot in my life.

1674
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: Here's it's fair an iHeart radio station guaranteed.

1675
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 4: Human like like, I don't know if anything is absolute,

1676
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But I had to add

1677
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: enough confidence to feel comfortable.

1678
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.

1679
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 4: But certainly, you know, as they say in this business

1680
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 4: man nothing is solid in his business to the inks

1681
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 4: dry and so, but I felt I felt very confident.

1682
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 5: Coach Tomlin talking about this Pittsburgh Steeler campaign with us

1683
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,919
Speaker 5: at Steelers training camp and Lay Trobe this past August,

1684
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 5: and that will be his nineteenth and final, which is

1685
01:21:58,520 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 5: hard to believe.

1686
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 3: Hard to believe.

1687
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 5: He won't be uh walking around the field art Rooney

1688
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 5: Field there Saint Vincent College in the summer, welcoming the

1689
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 5: throngs of Steeler fans. By the way, you have to

1690
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 5: say throngs, throngs of Steeler fans who pilgrimage out to

1691
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 5: La Trobe each and every summer, and you can say

1692
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 5: La Trobe or Latrobe, it doesn't matter. Apparently it's not

1693
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 5: gonna feel real.

1694
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: I think it's it's really it's going to hit another

1695
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: layer of setting in when he's not a camp this year.

1696
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: I agree. It's going to field. Well, the first game

1697
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 5: on the sidelines, who is this guy?

1698
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like what if?

1699
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 5: Like, how's the new guy gonna dress? Will he wear

1700
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 5: a hat? There's a high bar, Yeah, there's not a

1701
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 5: very high first. I think some hoodie in a hat

1702
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 5: is really all he did. Vast gentleman's vest. Yes, tech guy.

1703
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 5: Vest I wonder who, you know, what kind of coach

1704
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 5: of the Steelers gonna go out and get now, Tad,

1705
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 5: you know, will it be a meathead?

1706
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 3: Will it be an analytics guy? You know, one of

1707
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 3: the many archetypes. Will it be a.

1708
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 5: Storied NFL like Tom Donahoe, not Tom don Tom Coughlin type,

1709
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, disciplinaryan, Yeah, one of those guys, don't. I

1710
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 5: don't know what it's gonna end up being. Sounds like

1711
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 5: it's going to be a young guy again, Chris Shula,

1712
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman.

1713
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 3: We keep hearing.

1714
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: You know, I think with teams that replace their head

1715
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: coaches a lot, and I feel this way in all sports.

1716
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 1: If you have the crazy yells all the time, guy,

1717
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: when that guy gets fired, the pendulum swings the other

1718
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: way and get the most so Lloyd to John Russell, Yes,

1719
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: and also like them, yes, yeah, But the Steelers obviously

1720
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: have a thing that they like to do.

1721
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 3: Mike talked about it, you know, young defensive minded guy. Yeah.

1722
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 5: I know you have your reflections on these past nineteen years, Dad, Yeah,

1723
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 5: you know, it's been a somber time a reflection for me.

1724
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really set in yet. But

1725
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 1: I was a sat back yesterday, and you know, I

1726
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: had to think about the legacy of Mike Tomlin here

1727
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: and some of my memories with them. Nineteen years is

1728
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: a long time to do anything. I remember his first

1729
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: press conference, this plucky thirty four year old defensive coordinator

1730
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: from the Vikings. He was well spoken, and he chalked

1731
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: up an early win with Steeler fans by wearing a

1732
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: black suit with a gold tie, as if to say,

1733
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,480
Speaker 1: these are the team's colors.

1734
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm aware of that.

1735
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 5: That's right.

1736
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: Tom established himself as a no nonsense guy pretty early.

1737
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: On two thousand and eight, he put the kaibosh on

1738
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Santa Claus visiting the coaches.

1739
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 3: Prescott's right, that's right. Yeah, we'll have to ask Mike

1740
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: about that at some point.

1741
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1742
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: It's sort of it set like the precedent for his

1743
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: moral code. If I think something is stupid, I'm out.

1744
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: It feels pretty easy to break Mike Tomlin's tenure into

1745
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: two periods, the ten years before the twenty seventeen Divisional

1746
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,879
Speaker 1: round loss of the Jaguars and the nine years that followed.

1747
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the first decade was extremely fun, you know,

1748
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was all very fun.

1749
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 3: Maybe the message got stale.

1750
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: Maybe the team was constructed to win in an antiquated

1751
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: way that can't make you elite. And yeah, TJ and

1752
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: Derrek Watt, the Haywards, Nate and Nick Herbig. He obviously

1753
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: developed some kind of brothers fetish over the years.

1754
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 3: You forgot about the Edmonds.

1755
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: He was.

1756
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 5: Trying to engineer that one. And maybe yeah they were

1757
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 5: triplets too. Yeah, if only Tremaine were worse, we could

1758
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 5: get him. He had so many great qualities, you know.

1759
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 5: Let's let's not overlook that he should go into the

1760
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame for his management of Antonio Brown alone.

1761
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 5: His players seem to love him. He was, by all accounts,

1762
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 5: highly regarded by his peers. And let's not forget Mike

1763
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 5: Tomlin was cool as hell. Oh yeah, cooler than every

1764
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 5: other coach in the league anyway.

1765
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: Put it this way. He never ran out of the

1766
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: tunnel with toilet paper on the ship.

1767
01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 5: It did not happen.

1768
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 3: I have a vivid.

1769
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: Recollection of watching Hard Knocks in my parents' basement. In

1770
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Miami was the featured team and Joe Philben

1771
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: was their head coach. Oh my god, I remember thinking

1772
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: to myself, Wow, this dude sucks.

1773
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 5: There is nothing interesting about this guy at all.

1774
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: It felt like at any moment, Joe Philbin was gonna

1775
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: call a team meeting and try to sell them supplemental insurance.

1776
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: At the very least, the Tomin led Steeler team would

1777
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 1: never be dorks.

1778
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, like John Gannon in uh oh Arizona. You know,

1779
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 5: like one of those guys where it's like they just

1780
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 5: they're just awkward and weird or boring and it's just

1781
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 5: not fun to reofor him.

1782
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: Completely unrelatable, like to ownership, and I think to the players, yeah,

1783
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:47,839
Speaker 1: who are you serving?

1784
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like a lot of people didn't like that.

1785
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 5: Tomlin was super cocky, would like do the blow of

1786
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 5: the kiss and all that pet the chest pound which

1787
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 5: was owed to uh. I can't remember who who was he? Yes,

1788
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 5: some UFC guys. I thought it was sweet.

1789
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. You know me too.

1790
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,520
Speaker 1: He was a smooth dude. We'll always have the tomlinisms

1791
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 1: among my favorites.

1792
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 3: We do not care. I'd rather have to say woa

1793
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 3: than sick. That's a good one.

1794
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: The fine line between drinking wine and squashing grapes. If

1795
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna dance all night you better wear a diaper.

1796
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 3: I don't remember that one.

1797
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 5: I made that last one up, all right.

1798
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: But that was the beauty of Mike t the order

1799
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: he could casually drop a phrase like that at the

1800
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: podium after a big win and it would sound legit.

1801
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah uh yeah, I be prepared, right, that's what that means.

1802
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: Maybe it'd be on a T shirt in the Strip

1803
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: district by noon on Mondays? Would A Steelers team led

1804
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: by Mike Tomlin was never a laughing stock. People hate

1805
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: the non losing season staff. To put it in perspective,

1806
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: the Browns have finished under five hundred and sixteen times

1807
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: since Mike Tomlin.

1808
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Airly cow wow, sixteen times. It's a lot. I see

1809
01:27:59,280 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: a lot of high things.

1810
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Steeler fans talking about going three and fourteen to improve

1811
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: their draft position.

1812
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: Wow, heady stuff. I think it was.

1813
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: Sun Zoo who once said to be good, one must

1814
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: first suck, and I think I.

1815
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Deserve a little credit for not turning that into a

1816
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: Bobby suck.

1817
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, anyway, sure, Hey yeah, let's tag for

1818
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: a year sounds great. If anyone needs me, I'll be

1819
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,440
Speaker 1: on a twelve month bender.

1820
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 5: Who wants to do that? I know it's Madden was

1821
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 5: was endorsing that yesterday. He wanted a three and fourteen

1822
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 5: year with Will Howard at quarterback, and I'm like, I

1823
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 5: don't want that. Will Howard doesn't want that. No, Will

1824
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 5: Howard is very much in the why do I have

1825
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 5: to suck?

1826
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1827
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was drafted.

1828
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Being a head coach in the NFL means fighting battles

1829
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: on a strategic level that we the fans haven't even

1830
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: considered the game within the game, if you will. And

1831
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: in that regard, Tomond had many rivals. Tomlin versus the clock, Oh,

1832
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: Tomlin versus his fears.

1833
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 5: He lived at him sometimes he did.

1834
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: Did Tomlin verse, challenging the call on the field, Tomlin's

1835
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: leg VERSUSJA Kobe Jones, Tomlin versus Jory Rand's press conference question.

1836
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 5: Now you reminded me of this. I forgot when Jory

1837
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 5: Ran worked for Channel two back in the day that

1838
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 5: he and Tomlin just did not jive.

1839
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,839
Speaker 1: My first go round with a clear channel like fifteen

1840
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: years ago.

1841
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: Ever, iHeart days three, iHeart yeah.

1842
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a Gopher and one of my responsibilities

1843
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: was to record sound at the Tomlin press conference. And

1844
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: every week Jory Rand respectfully would wait till the end

1845
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: of the press conference to ask him the TV questions

1846
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,919
Speaker 1: that no one that were like ridiculous and fluffy.

1847
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he'd be like very allowed to be like

1848
01:29:59,439 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 3: any more.

1849
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Quest Riss and Jury would go, Mike, what are you

1850
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna dress up for us Halloween? Mike full candy bar,

1851
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: fun size stuff like that, and Tomlin was really not

1852
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 1: into it.

1853
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 5: It was awesome the formidable time. Young Jory works for

1854
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Free Press now and things are going much

1855
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 5: better for him.

1856
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: No, he's out in La killing it good, dude. I mean,

1857
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm happy for Mike Tomlin. The job sounds like a

1858
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: horrible grind. I can't imagine he ever sleeps. Coach t

1859
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: deserves some rest. Get into fishing, sure, take a pottery class,

1860
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: go on a guy's trip with John Harbaugh and Kevin Stefanski,

1861
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: raise a little hell Myrtle.

1862
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 3: Geneva on the lake. I don't know.

1863
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: Then he can come back with a full heart and

1864
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: write The Coming of middle aged Buddy movie, in which

1865
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: Tomlin is played by Michael B. Jordan, Chris Pine and

1866
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: his cast Kevin Stefanski and John Harbaugh's character is played

1867
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 1: by a muppet.

1868
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,560
Speaker 3: Named Jonny Tsunami.

1869
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: Coach Tomon was a huge part of our lives of

1870
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist Pittsburgh over these last two decades. I feel

1871
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: like I grew up with the guy. And this can't

1872
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: be overstated. This doesn't happen that we are witnessing the

1873
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Yinzer conclave right now. Soon the smoke will rise from

1874
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: the south Side facility and a new Stealer head coach

1875
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: will be named. So how will we remember Mike tomalind,

1876
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: the ninth winning is coach in NFL history. Well, at

1877
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: some point that it may be hard to believe these

1878
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: right now will become the good old days, especially if

1879
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: the next guy sucks.

1880
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 5: Which there's a good chance the next guy sucks. He

1881
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 5: might suck.

1882
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna choose to remember Coach t the way

1883
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: we were. So just a quick note, this is per

1884
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: Adam schefter. Tomlin will have to wear the exact same

1885
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: sweater Bill Kaher wore at the Press Shovidge while he resigned.

1886
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 5: It's the humiliation ritual that the Rudies make you do

1887
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 5: on the way out.

1888
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 3: It's a clause I never wanted to wear those flitters.

1889
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 5: I like the idea of the Insurer conclave and like

1890
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 5: black and gold smoke coming out of the Hinds stacks

1891
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 5: or something.

1892
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 8: You know.

1893
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 5: Well done, Tad, Thanks for just summing up everybody's feelings

1894
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 5: this morning. It stopped Rob King joining us from the

1895
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 5: Steelers Audio Network and King heer. You were in here

1896
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 5: all morning yesterday, well not all morning, but a good

1897
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:40,879
Speaker 5: portion of it, and we had no indication, nobody seemingly

1898
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 5: had any indication that this was going to happen. How

1899
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 5: surprised were you that Mike Tomlin decided, you know what,

1900
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 5: that's it?

1901
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say very you know, like you said,

1902
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 10: we had no inkling. You know, there was I suppose

1903
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 10: if you look back, you know there were people reporting,

1904
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 10: hey there's a there's a coach, you might step want

1905
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 10: to step aside, and all this other stuff. But you know,

1906
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 10: you see a lot of that kind of reporting and

1907
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,839
Speaker 10: a lot of it is just quick, fat or nonsense

1908
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 10: or whatever. Well maybe they were referring to my tomin

1909
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 10: I don't know they were. You know, there were some

1910
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 10: rumblings along the way, but I really didn't I really

1911
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 10: didn't put much stock in that. You know, the one

1912
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 10: thing when you listen to my tom Will talk is

1913
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 10: that you know, I've said this before. My favorite part

1914
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 10: of his press conference on Tuesdays when he starts talking

1915
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 10: about the other team and he was saying, Yeah, I

1916
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 10: met that guy when he's a senior in high school,

1917
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 10: and I took another guy, took that parents out on

1918
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 10: Pro Day and you know, watch some work out, and

1919
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 10: you know, he just loves football and and that love

1920
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 10: that's when it really comes through to me. But he

1921
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 10: loves to be involved in every aspect of it, down

1922
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 10: at the Senior Bowl and all the.

1923
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 3: Other things he did.

1924
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 10: And I I just didn't think that, you know, I

1925
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 10: didn't get the indication that this was going to be it.

1926
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 10: But it did, at least for now.

1927
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 5: So do you think that it was something that the

1928
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 5: Rooney family and ar Rooney knew about in advance and

1929
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 5: they had both sort of been working with the knowledge

1930
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 5: that all right, if we don't make it all the

1931
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 5: way this year, we're gonna shake hands and say, you know,

1932
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 5: so long? Or do you think our Rooney was also

1933
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 5: taken by surprise.

1934
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1935
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 10: All I can tell you is that I think Jerry

1936
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 10: doc said that they reported that they had not had

1937
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 10: that conversation. Jerry has very good sources within the students organization.

1938
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 10: I have to take his word for it. I don't know.

1939
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 10: I mean, I just I could make up an answer

1940
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 10: for you with the plain fact matters, Randy, I don't know.

1941
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 10: I had no idea whether they had a conversation. I mean,

1942
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 10: I was very, very surprised yesterday that announcement came, and

1943
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 10: I don't know anybody else who wasn't. And I don't

1944
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 10: know whether that includes the people internally in the SIS

1945
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 10: organization or not.

1946
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 5: Do you think that the message was getting stale as

1947
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 5: so many have uh opined, or was there another factor

1948
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 5: that was conspiring to just make it not work for

1949
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 5: them in the postseason over the last eight years.

1950
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a great question. I don't think that. I mean,

1951
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 10: it's a legitimate question, for sure. You know a lot

1952
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 10: of people are asking, and I don't think that's the case, Randy,

1953
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 10: because you know, first of all, there's a lot of

1954
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 10: roster turnover, right, a lot of guys are new, and

1955
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 10: I think he's gotten to that point and gotten to

1956
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 10: that status where players want to play for him. You know,

1957
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 10: there was always there used to be those polls. I

1958
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 10: don't know if they still do them. Hey, who's the

1959
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 10: player's coach, who would you most like to play for?

1960
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 10: And he was always on those lists. And I don't

1961
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 10: think that that is going to diminish as he gets

1962
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 10: further on into his career. I think people still want

1963
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 10: to play for him. You know, there was some impassioned

1964
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 10: defensive of him by Cam Hayward and Aaron Rodgers, for example.

1965
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 10: A lot of people say Aaron Rodgers came here because

1966
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 10: he wanted to play for Mike Tomin and wanted to

1967
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 10: win a championship. You know, I thought of the past.

1968
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 10: You know, it's hard to separate everything out, but I think,

1969
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 10: you know, it's I think it's easy in one way

1970
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 10: to lump all these years together and say, look all

1971
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 10: these years of failure, this this is you know it

1972
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 10: is this is like one item. But I think that

1973
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 10: you know, in many of those years, they're just they

1974
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 10: didn't they weren't good enough, you know, they just didn't

1975
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 10: have a good enough roster. Yeah, and you know that

1976
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 10: began at the quarterback position when you think about all

1977
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 10: the quarterbacks he's had. You know, I don't know if

1978
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 10: I mentioned this yesterday, but this is the first team.

1979
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 10: This year's team is the first time team in a

1980
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 10: quarter of a century to make the playoffs three consecutive

1981
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 10: years with three different starting quarterbacks. I mean, it's really

1982
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 10: hard to win in the NFL without great quarterback play.

1983
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 10: I thought this year they were going to be able

1984
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 10: to break through and win and at least win a

1985
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 10: game in the playoffs. I think this is the best

1986
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 10: team they've had in several seasons, and this one fell short.

1987
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 10: So this one, to me, is more disappointing.

1988
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 3: Than the others.

1989
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 10: I think I could look at the others and just say, hey,

1990
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 10: they just weren't.

1991
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: Good enough this year.

1992
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 10: I thought they had a good enough team to at

1993
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 10: least win a game.

1994
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Speaker 5: Agreed, all right, so we've heard all the names being

1995
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 5: bandied about as a replacement. What do you think will

1996
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 5: be the most important attribute the next coach of the

1997
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 5: Steelers has for Art Rooney to consider?

1998
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 10: I think, you know, young, energetic, you know, those would

1999
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 10: be two things like when I think of, you know,

2000
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 10: to see this coaches. You know, Chuck Knowle was really

2001
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 10: young when he was hired. Bill Cowell was really young

2002
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 10: when he was hired. Mike Tomlin was really young when

2003
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 10: he was hired. One other thing that's in common when

2004
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 10: you think about all these names. I don't think any

2005
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 10: of those guys were considered top of the Okay, this.

2006
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Is the guy, this is going to be the guy.

2007
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 10: In fact, if I'm correct, I think Dan Rooney back

2008
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 10: when he hired Chuck Knowle, was resisting, you know, the

2009
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 10: overtures of others to say he got to hire a

2010
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 10: more experienced guy, a more well known guy. They will

2011
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 10: go with somebody. I think it's an extremely attractive coaching position.

2012
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 10: Just look at the stability. How would you like to

2013
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 10: be a coaching step into that stability with this ownership

2014
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 10: and this track of record and a pretty good roster. Well, so,

2015
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 10: I don't know, if you know you hear the names,

2016
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 10: I wouldn't be surprised if it's if it's somebody you know,

2017
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, they're gonna be like, oh, hey,

2018
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 10: check out this, you know, assistant offensive line coach for

2019
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 10: the Broncos. You know he's the guy, because they're looking

2020
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 10: for a for a guy who I think you know,

2021
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 10: brings those sort of attributes, the intelligence, certainly, the football intelligence,

2022
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 10: and the work ethic and the energy. I think that

2023
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 10: those are the kind of things and that they'll be

2024
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 10: looking for.

2025
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 5: Rob King, voice of the Steelers here on the Steelers

2026
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 5: Audio Network, your flagship station of the Black and Gold,

2027
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 5: one of two point five TV King or thanks for

2028
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 5: your time this morning.

2029
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 3: Appreciate it, buddy, Thanks man, see it. Okay, we'll see you.

2030
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 5: Pursuit of joining us next Jeremy Fowler from ESPN. He

2031
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 5: broke the story yesterday with Adam Schefter. He'll join us

2032
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 5: at eight forty five, Max Starks, Mark Madden More to

2033
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 5: come as we chronicle the last crazy forty eight hours

2034
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh that has ended with Mike Tomlin stepping down

2035
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 5: as the head coach of the Steelers after nineteen years

2036
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 5: and plus. We'll pick some of our favorite tomlinisms for you.

2037
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be sad to see those go. Those were great. Yeah, yeah,

2038
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 5: the squashing grapes and drinking wine while oh yeah, it's

2039
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 5: just it's a newer one, right.

2040
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a last three years, five years.

2041
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I understand, you know, it's one of those one. Yeah,

2042
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 8: there is a fine line. Yeah one sucks. Yeah, there's

2043
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 8: enjoying the fruit of your labor.

2044
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 5: That's good. Yeah, I need these to be fermented. Just

2045
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 5: imagine him saying that next to Howie Long. Next year,

2046
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 5: Terry Bradshago. I need to see these ahead of town live.

2047
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 22: From the town's appliants in studios where Pittsburgh shops for

2048
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,520
Speaker 22: appliance is. This is WTV Pittsburgh.

2049
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: The fourth ghost of Christmas past that Lingers way too

2050
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 2: long is showing up everywhere Holiday bills DV.

2051
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 3: Guess here on your radio Home of the Steelers DV.

2052
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin stepping down after nineteen years as head coach.

2053
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 5: It's still hard to believe. I'm having a hard time

2054
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 5: wrapping my head around this.

2055
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 3: Didn't see it coming, not this way.

2056
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 5: Now, and I do think there needs to be some

2057
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 5: sort of change. I just wasn't sure how it was

2058
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 5: going to come about.

2059
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 15: I was Sports is STU brought to you by Bridgual Applian,

2060
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 15: so I was fairly confident change was on the horizon.

2061
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 15: Didn't think there was any way Mike Tomlin was going

2062
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 15: to get fired after he won ten games in the

2063
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 15: Acon North Division championship. But Tomlin also is a guy

2064
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 15: who's resistant to staff change for a lot of reasons.

2065
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 15: And I thought, Okay, this is going to come up,

2066
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 15: particularly the way it ended. Had the Houston game gone

2067
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 15: the way a lot of us were anticipating it was

2068
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 15: going to be a thirteen to ten rock fight somebody, Okay,

2069
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 15: that's one result, thirty to six, and getting just steamrolled

2070
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 15: the way they did probably ramped up the degree to

2071
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 15: which change was going to be demanded. But I have

2072
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 15: no idea if any of that was what Mike Tomlin

2073
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 15: was thinking about or not. He just decided that's it,

2074
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 15: and uh, there's nothing anybody can.

2075
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 3: Do about it. Jeremy Fowler, Yeah, and there's nothing can

2076
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 3: be done.

2077
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler eight forty five, who was part of the

2078
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 5: team with along with Schefter that broke that story. I

2079
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 5: want to ask him about the notion that this is

2080
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 5: just was it Art Rooney going hey, well, Mike good,

2081
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do this year? You know, whatever

2082
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 5: you want, I'm fine with anything.

2083
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 3: What you want a coffee? Are you thinking about Quinton? Yeah?

2084
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 5: Was this that? Or was it? I don't think of

2085
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 5: Art Rooney saying, hey, we're gonna need to bring in

2086
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 5: some coordinators and I've you know, Omar and a couple

2087
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 5: other people are gonna I don't put some names out there.

2088
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 15: Then been reported that they even spoke yet, I mean,

2089
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 15: I don't know that they had their quote unquote meeting.

2090
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 3: I think he just came in and said, I'm done.

2091
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 5: Well that's what I want to Yeah, figure out here.

2092
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get to the bottom of it.

2093
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 3: Damn it. As much we know Mike Tomlin went out,

2094
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 3: Uh like Mike Tomlin. I mean, do you think that'll

2095
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 3: be his legacy here? Though? What's that when all of

2096
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 3: a sudden done, Will people.

2097
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 8: Be like he didn't win a playoff game for the

2098
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 8: last eight years?

2099
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 3: Or well they think like, yeah, you want a Super

2100
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 3: Bowl year?

2101
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 5: He never every year we had a chance, we had

2102
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 5: meaningful football for the entire nineteen years he was here.

2103
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think people choose to embrace these days what

2104
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 15: they choose to embrace, and they don't let the facts

2105
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 15: get in the way.

2106
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 3: Man, This is very true.

2107
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 15: They just make up their mind on something and that's it,

2108
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 15: and if they need a little reinforcement, they find somebody

2109
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 15: who agrees with them and say, there you go.

2110
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 3: See, but this is the reality I want to live in.

2111
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 3: You know. He was Mike Tomlins to the end. Let's

2112
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 3: rewind back to training camp.

2113
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 15: Will turn out to be Mike Tomlins last training camp

2114
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 15: at Saint Vincent College. Juan Thornhill, one of these Steelers

2115
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 15: perceived solutions heading into the twenty twenty five season, said

2116
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 15: that he thought the Steelers had a chance to be

2117
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 15: the NFL's one of the NFL's all time best defenses

2118
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 15: this season. And when Mike Tomlins sat down with the

2119
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 15: DV morning show in Latrope, he didn't run away from that,

2120
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 15: he ran toward it.

2121
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 4: You know, we feel really good about the prospects of

2122
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 4: this group.

2123
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 3: We do got to write that story, but we.

2124
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 4: Got enough talent, we got enough schematics to do big,

2125
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 4: big things. And when I say big things, I'm talking about.

2126
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: The stored things piled on.

2127
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Speaker 15: And I talked to a number of people about that

2128
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 15: in the wake of that comment. I think the best

2129
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 15: answer I got was from Cole Holcombe, inside linebacker, and

2130
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 15: he said, well, he's challenging us, he wants us to

2131
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 15: he's daring us to be great. You know, I don't

2132
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 15: know that it was so much a prediction. Yeah, we're

2133
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 15: gonna break the eighty five Bears record for points against

2134
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 15: the Ravens.

2135
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 5: Record for suggesting that we plucked out something that he

2136
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 5: said and then maybe pumped a little context behind it

2137
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 5: that didn't exist.

2138
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 3: Since it was on our show, probably us more than anybody.

2139
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's how this crap stupped out to make

2140
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 5: sure make that note.

2141
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 3: But no, it's kind of who it was. He was.

2142
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 15: He often talked in the riddles is probably not the

2143
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 15: right word, but no, riddles is the word, is it?

2144
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2145
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 3: He was.

2146
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 15: He would come up with wild analogies and try to

2147
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 15: be entertaining and uh, he would go on and on

2148
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 15: about stuff. But he was also very direct at times

2149
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 15: and very singularly focused.

2150
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 3: That was one of his favorite. Uh.

2151
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 15: You know, he wanted to win and win big and

2152
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 15: he thought they could every year.

2153
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 5: He was evasive at times, and you'd use language to

2154
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 5: dance around things, no question about it. He's linguistic gymnastics.

2155
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 5: As I used to say that he would perform on

2156
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 5: a weekly basis. I think, you know the whole message thing.

2157
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 15: I think the fan base got tired of hearing from

2158
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 15: him more than the players.

2159
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 3: Fans hearted it for nineteen years.

2160
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 15: Players did not right, and he got to the point

2161
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 15: you knew what he was going to say after a game,

2162
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 15: you knew what he was going to say on Tuesday,

2163
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 15: and he would do the lot.

2164
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 5: Resume his resume Cleveland.

2165
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Speaker 15: Browns are fun football team and they're gonna be Yeah,

2166
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 15: Racers is a good football team.

2167
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 3: You know it's sixty eight to three win.

2168
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 15: You know that's a TV show. He has to talk

2169
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 15: for so long. That's why he does that. I mean,

2170
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 15: what a lot didn't win enough?

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Speaker 3: So now what do you do if I'm the Steelers? Yeah,

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01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 3: I hired John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 15: No, for real, I can't wait to hear what ur

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Speaker 15: Rooney has to say about it today. Art does not

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01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 15: often make declarative statements, but if you listen close, he

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 15: usually gives you a hint or two as to how

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Speaker 15: he's thinking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 15: Know the playbook, going back to the Chuck Nole higher

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Speaker 15: was you find a young defensive coach that you think

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01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 15: has great coaching chops and great potential, a guy that

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01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 15: will not be overwhelmed initially and who can grow into

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Speaker 15: the job and be there for a long time. They

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Speaker 15: did that with Noel won four Super Bowls. He's in

2185
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 15: the Hall of Fame. They did that with Bill Kauer

2186
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 15: won a Super Bowl. He's seen in the Hall of Fame.

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01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 15: Yet who cower? Yeah, we were there for it. And

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01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 15: now you got Mike Tomlin won a Super Bowl and

2189
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 15: he's going to the Hall of Fame. So do you

2190
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 15: keep running that play or do you take a look

2191
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 15: at the way the game is evolving. Not that defense

2192
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 15: will never be unimportant, but his offense more important though

2193
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:14,520
Speaker 15: you know it's the old defense wins champions think championships

2194
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 15: thing going out of style.

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Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler from ESPN, along with Adam Schefter, broke the

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01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 5: news yesterday. Jeremy Fowler joins us next on your radio

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Speaker 5: It's Randy Bauman at the DV Morning Show and your

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Speaker 5: radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one a two point

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Speaker 5: five DVE and joining us right now, one of the

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Speaker 5: guys along with Adam Schefter, who broke the story of

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01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin resigning after nineteen years as head coach of

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01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jeremy Fowler, our old friend, joining us

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01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 5: now on the DV Morning Show. Jeremy, good morning, how

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01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 5: are you.

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 5: Good morning gang, Thanks for having me well, thanks for

2211
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 5: making time for us this morning. I mean that news

2212
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,480
Speaker 5: is still taking me by surprise. To be honest with you, Uh,

2213
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 5: do you have any sense of the concrete reasons why.

2214
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 3: Well, I think there.

2215
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 25: Are a few, a couple of those I'll lean on.

2216
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 25: Really what I heard he said to the team yesterday,

2217
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 25: which is basically that, uh, I'm sorry, Uh got a

2218
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 25: call and get a get out of that and get back.

2219
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 3: In my notes. Tell you're talking to us, Okay, he

2220
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:38,879
Speaker 3: said something.

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01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 25: Now you're good, You're good. So really someone has to

2222
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 25: move the franchise forward that I couldn't deliver for you anymore,

2223
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 25: Like he kind of put it on himself not getting

2224
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 25: it done. Now that said, I know for a while

2225
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 25: Tomlin had been thinking about stepping away. I don't think

2226
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 25: it was a situation where it was a mandate that

2227
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 25: he leave or anything like that. But in the meeting

2228
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 25: with the team, he did say, hey, look, this is

2229
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 25: sort of a game of throne style business. It's cut

2230
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 25: throats and if you don't get it done, you don't.

2231
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 3: Get it done.

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01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 25: And I didn't get it done for you. So I

2233
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 25: do think he recognized to the team that renewed optimism

2234
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 25: was needed for the franchise that he wasn't delivering that anymore,

2235
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 25: even though you could argue that a lot of these

2236
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 25: teams overachieved in part because of him, and so you

2237
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 25: have that dynamic, you have the TV component. I do

2238
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 25: think is real that he's going to be courted here.

2239
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 25: I think that's been on the table since the summer,

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Speaker 25: to be honest, not formally, but I think like it's

2241
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 25: been made known to him, Hey, you're going to have

2242
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 25: some good opportunities here if you do, if and when

2243
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 25: you do step away. And I think he from what

2244
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 25: I was told directly from sources I've been talking to

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01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 25: me for the last few weeks, is that he just

2246
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 25: needs a life reset. Kids are out of school now,

2247
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 25: out of the house. You know, he's been doing it

2248
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 25: and giving it all he can for two decades really,

2249
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 25: and it's just probably time.

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Speaker 5: Was there any notion that Art Rooney pushed back on

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01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 5: it and said, no, no, you're you're good, We like you,

2252
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 5: it can work.

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01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 3: Or was Seinfeld yeah, right, you're doing good. Yeah.

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01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if he got any pushback from Art Rooney

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01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 5: there and in the form of him trying to course

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01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 5: him to stay.

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Speaker 25: You know, I haven't got an answer on that in particular.

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01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 25: So it's certainly possible that the Rooney felt like it

2259
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 25: was time as well, but I cannot speak directly to that.

2260
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 25: But what I do know is that Mike Common went

2261
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 25: into Monday with a purpose. Part of that purpose was

2262
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 25: to let Art Rooney know his plans, and then he

2263
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 25: knew at the team meeting at two o'clock he was

2264
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 25: telling the team, So he had a plan carefully crafted out.

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Speaker 25: What Art Rooney the Second's involvement in in that plan was,

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01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 25: I don't know exactly, but I do believe it was

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01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 25: truly a stepping down situation. And I don't think it

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01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 25: was like, hey, you know you like, you know, we're

2269
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 25: ready to for you to move on, Why don't you

2270
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 25: tell the team it's your decision. I really don't think it.

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Speaker 5: Was that, and it wasn't something that he shared with

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01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 5: Art Rooney, you know, several weeks ago that he was

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01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 5: leaning in this direction in case they wanted to start

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01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:25,799
Speaker 5: to get their ducks in a rows.

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Speaker 3: Some people are asserting.

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Speaker 25: The indications that I've gotten is that that was not

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01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 25: the case. I cannot say that for certain, but I'm

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01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 25: just not aware of those kind of talks. The indication

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01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 25: I was getting was that this was a Tomlin driven plan.

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Speaker 5: When you talk about the carrot being dangled of TV,

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01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 5: I mean much easier lifestyle, really good money. Also, do

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01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 5: you get the sense that that is the final destination

2283
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 5: for him or will this be more of a Sean

2284
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 5: Payton situation?

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01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 25: Well, Champagne late a Night's blueprint for him, Right, go

2286
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 25: do TV for a year, come back, and then the

2287
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 25: team that you previously coach retains your rights like the

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01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 25: Steelers do, unless they worked out some sort of buyout

2289
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 25: or negotiation I'm not aware of, but they would own

2290
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 25: his rights because he's still under contract. He'd have to

2291
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,799
Speaker 25: swing a trade with that new Perspective team, and obviously

2292
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 25: I think it's it goes without saying his market would

2293
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 25: be really strong for that for another team to land in.

2294
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 25: I know I've got to several coaching agents that are

2295
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 25: sort of rejoicing thinking Tom and will sity here come

2296
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 25: back and get the biggest contracts in the NFL to

2297
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 25: reset the entire coaching landscapes. That is something that's sort

2298
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 25: of been anticipated. But beyond that, I know Tom and

2299
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 25: essentially told the team that you know, I don't want

2300
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 25: to coach anywhere else, But he worded it in such

2301
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 25: a way where it's like, I think people walked away saying, Okay,

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01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 25: well if he comes back down the road, it's because

2303
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 25: you know, he just loves football and the competitive.

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01:51:58,640 --> 01:51:59,600
Speaker 3: Juices that go with that.

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01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 25: But right now, you know he's not looking for some

2306
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 25: sort of lateral or even lesser job like he valued coaching.

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01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 25: The Steelers is one of the very best franchises in

2308
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 25: all of sports. So it's not like, hey, I got

2309
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 25: to get out and get somewhere else, and so he

2310
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 25: indicated that to the team, But he's sort of slightly

2311
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 25: left the door open to potentially coach down the road,

2312
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 25: but it's not on the radar right now.

2313
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler from ESPN with us right now, what does

2314
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 5: this do to the coaching searches league wide? I would

2315
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 5: imagine there are teams who are in need of a

2316
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 5: head coach who are thinking, we better get our guy

2317
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 5: quick because there's a pretty attractive position now open.

2318
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 25: Yes, yeah, it is attractive. There's no doubt. I'll say

2319
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 25: that with a caveat now, the Steelers, it's a job

2320
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 25: that people will line up for. Yes, in part because

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01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 25: of the tremendous tenure in patience that you will be

2322
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 25: afforded with this. You know obviously the famous line about

2323
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 25: three head coaches since nineteen sixty nine. So at the

2324
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 25: very least, you're going to get a very patient ownership,

2325
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 25: very thoughtful that's going to help you ride the ups

2326
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 25: and downs. That said, it's a team that has some holes,

2327
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 25: as you know, particularly a quarterback that hasn't had a

2328
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 25: stable quarterback option for like seven years or whatever it is,

2329
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 25: since Ben's last year's big then, and so you're you know,

2330
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 25: it's a team that has a very old defense. Now,

2331
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 25: I was told my Tomins decision was not personnel driven,

2332
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 25: and I believe that, but subconsciously, like if he had

2333
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 25: the horses to win a Super Bowl, he stay another year.

2334
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 25: I can't answer that for him. But that's a question

2335
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 25: I'm asking. So it's not the easiest job. It's the

2336
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 25: resources there are not top shelf. If you would ask

2337
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 25: the NFL Players Association, because they do his rankings every year,

2338
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 25: I would put the Steelers in line with like the

2339
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 25: Chiefs and some of these other teams that you know,

2340
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 25: they're not going out of the way to modernize the

2341
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 25: facility and have thirty staff members on the coaching staff

2342
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 25: like some teams are doing twenty five thirty members. There's

2343
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 25: still a little old school in their ways now that

2344
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 25: has proven to be effective, but it's different, you know,

2345
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 25: Like I don't expect them to go spend in an

2346
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 25: exorbitant amount of money on a new coach. You know,

2347
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 25: I think it could be an up and comer situation

2348
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 25: where you get somebody young and assertive and you build

2349
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 25: with them.

2350
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 15: Who's the Chuck Mall, Bill Kaher, Mike Tomlin thirty something

2351
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 15: defensive coordinator that everybody's gaga about.

2352
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 25: Man, Mike, I'm trying to find that now. I mean,

2353
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 25: it's been it's a weird tool this year. If there's

2354
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 25: not a Golden Goose, there's not a Ben Johnson. You know,

2355
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 25: there's some there's some younger up and coming options that

2356
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 25: are intriguing.

2357
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 24: You know.

2358
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 25: Chris Hula comes to mind from the Rams defensive coordinator.

2359
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 25: Jeff Hafley with the Packers, you know, has a way

2360
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 25: about him. He's been a head coach of Boston College

2361
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 25: and I think he'll interview well, you know, Jesse Mentor

2362
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 25: is kind of the hot name right now. The Chargers

2363
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 25: defensive coordinator. But you know they're all unknown commodities. They're

2364
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 25: gonna have to perform well in interviews, and right now,

2365
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 25: you know, the only interviews that have really taken place

2366
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 25: are those most of those virtual ones that are kind

2367
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 25: of cursory and you're just getting to know the other

2368
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 25: team where you make your head in the second interviews,

2369
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 25: can you really impress and show what you're gonna do

2370
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 25: with the roster and have a plan for the quarterback

2371
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 25: and so a lot of that has to take place

2372
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 25: this year more than ever. The interviewers are really going

2373
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 25: to matter. You know, you have some really interesting up

2374
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 25: and coming offensive coaches, the guys that don't have a

2375
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 25: lot of experience like Nate Shieldhouse and with the Rams

2376
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 25: passing coordinator, Broncos quarterbacks coach Davis Webb, Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator,

2377
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 25: Grant your Dinsky. Young guys that are coming up. But

2378
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 25: are you know, if you want to get ahead of

2379
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 25: it and say, hey, here's a guy like McVeigh or

2380
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 25: you think he's going to be really good two to

2381
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 25: three years down the road, you would get ahead of

2382
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 25: it and just hire them now even though they're in experienced.

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Speaker 25: There will be some options like that, and there are

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01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 25: now nine jobs, so if one of those guys got

2385
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 25: a job, it wouldn't shock me.

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01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 5: Jeremy followed from ESPN. Last thing for you, Jeremy, and

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01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 5: this may be impass well for you to know at

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 5: this point, but is there any idea of how this

2389
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 5: search will play out for the Steelers?

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01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 3: Is there a committee?

2391
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 5: Is it just Art who will he put together as

2392
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 5: a brain trust for this or will it be for

2393
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 5: him a solo effort.

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01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 25: You know, these are pretty thorough complex situations now, these

2395
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 25: interview processes, because you look at Tennessee, they're interviewing like

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01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 25: eighteen people just for their first round. You have to

2397
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 25: be well organized. It's hard for one person to do so.

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01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 25: I would be surprised if team President Ronny just went

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01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 25: into this alone without me help. I do expect Omar

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01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 25: to be involved. Andy White all the assistant GM helped

2401
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 25: with Philly search when they landed Nick Siriani, so he

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01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 25: understands the rhythm of these I expect him to be

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01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 25: involved as well. And then whether there's outside council or not,

2404
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 25: I'm not sure, but that's something that some teams tap into.

2405
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 25: The Atlanta Falcons did that recently hiring it like a

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01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 25: search firm for both their GM and their head coaching search.

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler from ESPN, Jeremy, thanks always for your time

2408
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 5: this morning.

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01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 3: We greatly appreciate it.

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01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 25: Hey, you guys, great to hear from him.

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01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, always good to catch up with you again.

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01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler or old buddy. We talked to him all

2413
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 5: the time back in the day when he was the

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01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 5: Steelers beat guy, and now he's on the national front

2415
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 5: there for ESPN.

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 15: I've got to ask him one question. If Tomlin ends

2417
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 15: up doing color analysis, Uh huh? Do you think he'll

2418
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 15: start talking about a play in the first quarter and

2419
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 15: still be talking about the same play in the second?

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01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 5: He is long winded, he hung up, right, he can't

2421
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 5: answer that. We lost him, so yeah, so sorry we

2422
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 5: didn't make time for that one.

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01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 3: I wonder how he's going to do with that.

2424
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 5: You're right, the brevity is going to be an issue.

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01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 15: No, but I'm kidding. He's smart enough. He'll he'll figure

2426
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 15: it out. But he did like to ramble on at

2427
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 15: those press conferences.

2428
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 5: All right, Well, we'll go over some of our favorite

2429
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 5: tomininisms and good news for people who watch the news.

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 3: Abby.

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01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I like to drink while I watch the news.

2432
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 6: But now the anchor could be drinking too.

2433
01:57:56,360 --> 01:58:00,080
Speaker 5: That'll help Max Starks, Mark Madden and more. As we

2434
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 5: recount Mike Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of

2435
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh seel Is, it's hard to even say that

2436
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 5: out like it's I'm really having a tough time with

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01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 5: the change here. You'll get over true, Pittsburgh. No, I know,

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01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 5: I'll get over it, but it's shocking. I think it's

2439
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 5: good for everybody.

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01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 10: I do.

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 3: I think the change is good. We'll see, said the

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Speaker 3: z Master.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 16: I like to hear.

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01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 3: The Wi Brothers.

2446
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Speaker 2: Social phone or the talkback button on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Is how you reach us with your requests. You build

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Speaker 2: W DVE E Pittsburgh and I Heart Radio Station guaranteed human.

2453
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

2454
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 4: Just push all the chips towards the middle of the table.

2455
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, man, I love the fact that people care man.

2456
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 4: I love the fact that our game is a twelve

2457
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 4: month game, even in the off season, is big news

2458
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 4: and big business.

2459
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 4: It's just an honor to be a part of something

2461
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 4: that big man. I've grown to enjoy it over the years.

2462
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 5: As coach, Tomlin sitting down with us in Latrobe this

2463
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 5: past August and that'll be his last Stealers training camp

2464
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 5: as head coach. So he stepped down yesterday and resigned.

2465
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 5: And I'm having a hard time with change. I think

2466
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 5: there needed to be change. I think it's going to

2467
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 5: be good for everybody, but I'm still this quickly.

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01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I use your time. Yeah, it's one of

2469
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 3: those wait days. Have to change.

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01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 26: We can't keep doing this quit wait no, that's hold on,

2471
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 26: hold on, hod On.

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01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 6: Did you say something I thought, maybe, much like you,

2473
01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 6: that as much as there his need for change, maybe

2474
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 6: my first thought is that at first there.

2475
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 7: Would be changes around him.

2476
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 6: I agree, co ordinator would change, the quarterback would change

2477
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 6: like that.

2478
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 7: There would be other changes, but maybe not him.

2479
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 5: But that might have been the impetus for him saying

2480
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 5: you know what, I had enough. Maybe he didn't want

2481
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 5: to be told who he could hire as a coordinator.

2482
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 5: Sure you know or as Jeremy Fowler just said, By

2483
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 5: the way, that was a great segment we just had

2484
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 5: with Jeremy Fowler.

2485
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 3: A great bariness to make time for us today.

2486
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 5: It might have just been, hey, man, I'm not getting

2487
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 5: it done for you and I don't feel like I can.

2488
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 3: And you know what, when he's.

2489
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 5: Got that carrot dangling of TV money and a much

2490
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 5: easier lifestyle, I could see that being a little.

2491
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 3: More attractive than.

2492
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 5: Working sixty five to seventy hours a week January, February,

2493
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 5: in March, you know what I mean. Off season it's

2494
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 5: a grind, as he just said. But uh, anyways, I'm

2495
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 5: gonna miss Coach Tomland. Ben Roethlisberger spoke to the situation

2496
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 5: in an emergency Football in with Ben Roethlisberger podcast last evening.

2497
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 27: And he's a gold jacket guy. I mean Chuck Noll,

2498
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 27: gold jacket, Bill Cower, gold jacket coach Tomlin. I mean

2499
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 27: that speaks volumes for this organization and three head coaches,

2500
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 27: three are going to be in the Hall of Fame.

2501
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 5: I mean, these are big shoes to fill.

2502
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 3: And listen, Coach.

2503
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 27: Kyer talked about on this show he had huge shoes

2504
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 27: to fill with coach Knowle and Mike t had huge

2505
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 27: shoes to fill with coach Kyler. The next coach is

2506
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 27: going to have huge shoes to fill. And we joke

2507
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 27: about it. You don't want to be the guy that

2508
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 27: replaces the guy. You want to be the guy that

2509
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 27: replaces the guy that replaced the guy. So one more removed.

2510
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 27: But coach Tomlin did it. And you know, you can

2511
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 27: say what you want about him taking coach Cower's team

2512
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 27: and this, that and the other, but for nineteen seasons there,

2513
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 27: I can't think of another organization that would not be.

2514
02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 3: A static with nineteen teen winning seasons. That's what you

2515
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 3: strive for.

2516
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 27: Obviously, you want you want Lombardes and you want championships,

2517
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 27: and he brought that and it's been a while since

2518
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 27: he's had a playoff win. But but what coach tom

2519
02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 27: When brought to this organization, this city, this community, I

2520
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 27: mean very active in the community, like you said, a

2521
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 27: leader of men and and very involved in in the community.

2522
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:24,760
Speaker 27: Lived you know, didn't like exclude himself, lived in the

2523
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 27: in in town.

2524
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 3: And you know, we.

2525
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 27: He deserves our respect and our praise for what he

2526
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 27: brought to this organization. I'm sure there's a lot of

2527
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 27: fans like I'm wondering, like the fans that are we're

2528
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 27: asking for him to leave Boo fired Tom and this,

2529
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 27: that and the other. Now that he's that he stepped down,

2530
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 27: are they are the fans that wanted him gone in

2531
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 27: a state of like yes, like that's what we're talking about.

2532
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 27: They are being like, you know what, Okay, that's what

2533
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 27: we're asking for. But but thank you, Like let me

2534
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,080
Speaker 27: let me tip the cap. You know, how can you

2535
02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 27: not say thank you to coach team what he brought

2536
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 27: to this organization for nineteen seasons.

2537
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, it is.

2538
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Ben later added, I can't wait to see what he

2539
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 1: does with Penn State.

2540
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 3: It's so funny.

2541
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: I've been just sort of flipped on a dime from

2542
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 1: like maybe you should take the Penn State two months

2543
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 1: ago as a troll move, yes, and then he's like,

2544
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: oh wait now it's real.

2545
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 5: Yeah sorry. I think he and Tomlin always had a

2546
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 5: push pull relationship, you know, and that was him at

2547
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 5: the time giving him a little hey take the Penn

2548
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 5: stage up. Also, that's been thinking out loud on a

2549
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 5: podcast and learning that when you you know, think out well,

2550
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 5: I don't know how much of a calculated troll it was.

2551
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 5: Right at the minute he wanted to give him a shot,

2552
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 5: and he's like.

2553
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 1: Oh that list forever now, no, yeah, right here, right yeah,

2554
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 1: he's in the bathroom, like that's really picking up steam.

2555
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 5: Oh boy. Ben on that podcast also said the Steeler

2556
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 5: should hire an offensive guy. So well, we'll see how

2557
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 5: that goes. Max Starts will join us in a little bit.

2558
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 5: Ben's former teammate and someone who along with then won

2559
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 5: to Super Bowl with Mike Tomlin. That'll be nine point

2560
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 5: fifteen and that's only like six minutes away. But first, Abby,

2561
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 5: you have some news that it's pretty interesting, I think,

2562
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 5: speaking of news news about news.

2563
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 6: News is hour brought to you by a better call,

2564
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 6: cy clouds and rain today a high of forty six.

2565
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 6: A new report here from the staffers at CBS. CBS

2566
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 6: seems to be preparing a new segment called Whiskey Fridays.

2567
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 6: Recent reports from January suggest that CBS News might be

2568
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 6: planning a segment called Whiskey Fridays with Tony Dakopple, which

2569
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 6: says that they are testing bar setups in the newsroom

2570
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 6: and a potential Jack Daniel's sponsorship aiming to boost viewership

2571
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 6: for Tony, who recently took over as anchor of the

2572
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 6: CBS Evening News, So some staff were only first made

2573
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 6: aware of it as they a encountered the testing set,

2574
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 6: which basically is a faux stocked bar in the news.

2575
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 3: What the hell is this?

2576
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 6: Encountered the set featuring a large sponsor banner.

2577
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 3: On the news, on the news, the friend the news anymore?

2578
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 7: For Jack Daniels, that's.

2579
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 5: That's Pravda or whatever the hell that's uh, everything's.

2580
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 3: For sale kids.

2581
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 6: And this comes as Tony begins his new role as

2582
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:35,640
Speaker 6: anchor of the CBS Evening News, with reports noting declining viewership.

2583
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 24: Oh.

2584
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 5: They since he's taken over, they have lost almost twenty

2585
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 5: five percent of their audience. It was a twenty percent

2586
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 5: drop in the first four days. Now, it should be

2587
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 5: no surprise to you that the person overseeing all of

2588
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 5: these changes at CBS News, this is Pittsburgh, Barry Weiss.

2589
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 3: She's from She's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, she's from Squirrel Hill.

2590
02:05:57,720 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 3: And uh, you knew you grew up with her, right, Jacob.

2591
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 5: Her youngest sister, Yeah, okay, her youngest sister is my grador.

2592
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 5: And I knew her growing up. Okay, well, so it

2593
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 5: should be no surprise to you that A Pittsburgh's solution

2594
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 5: to declining ratings is well, why don't we.

2595
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Drink more tony?

2596
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: Uh, we're testing really low in the drunk guy demographic.

2597
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 3: We've got a solution.

2598
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no amount of drinking that will not make

2599
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 5: me think that guy's a douchebag.

2600
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 3: Though. I get bad news for you.

2601
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 5: They're turning it into Bill Maher's club random on the

2602
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 5: evening news the next week.

2603
02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like stoner Thursdays. You know.

2604
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 5: Anyways, I think we should take over Greenland.

2605
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Things are going great, things are really going great.

2606
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 7: I think that even like with us, I know that, like.

2607
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 6: You think you would like to hang out with us drunk,

2608
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 6: but you wouldn't.

2609
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 5: You think might drunk?

2610
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 7: You know it's wrong with you, you know it's wrong.

2611
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he just gets super racist. Yeah, I'm Greek. So

2612
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 5: what we did gay stuff and the Olympics.

2613
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 3: I like that.

2614
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 14: I liked it.

2615
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:15,240
Speaker 7: I am open minded.

2616
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, how about.

2617
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 3: Want to wrestle figure shure he's got a pierce nipple? Yeah,

2618
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 3: problematic that I was trying to phrase it the right way.

2619
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 5: So's not to uh, you know, acquire a lawsuit.

2620
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 3: Anyways, we probably should move on.

2621
02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 5: But it's great that they're openly thinking of just drinking

2622
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 5: booze on the evening news.

2623
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, anything but worrying about the news.

2624
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 5: I always thought it was a terrible idea when Jimmy

2625
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 5: Kimmel did it to start his late night show Live

2626
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 5: with Jimmy Kimmel, when it was truly like it was

2627
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 5: a live show.

2628
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it's I think it's filmed

2629
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 3: live now.

2630
02:07:54,520 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 5: But they were doing a shot like every few minutes, yeah,

2631
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,640
Speaker 5: and everybody was getting hammered. I'm like, this is just

2632
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 5: not good.

2633
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 3: You know.

2634
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 6: There are some instances where like this conceptually if wrangled,

2635
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:15,880
Speaker 6: I think what you're talking about, I'm getting away from

2636
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 6: the concept of this being on your nightly news, which

2637
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:20,080
Speaker 6: I think is an awful idea.

2638
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 7: But like even like the drunk Shakespeare thing.

2639
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:27,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw one production of that, and at first

2640
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 6: I actually thought it was funny. Yeah, but by the

2641
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 6: end I didn't.

2642
02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 3: Think it was funny anymore.

2643
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 6: Like it kind of did lose me because like now

2644
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm just watching people hammered. I can do

2645
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 6: that for free. Yeah, and myself do Shakespeare. Yeah, I mean,

2646
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 6: that's all you have to do. But and I like

2647
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:51,240
Speaker 6: that they went right to whiskey like it.

2648
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe.

2649
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 3: Sip on a beer.

2650
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 9: You know.

2651
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 5: They're like, nooparges, we only have twenty two minutes of news.

2652
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 3: We got to get ham. It's time for the bac

2653
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 3: check in bright pennot sounds a little low.

2654
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be hilarious if he had to do that, though.

2655
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 5: It was like, in order to continue the news, I

2656
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 5: have to blow under your point two.

2657
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:30,480
Speaker 3: Let's go Venezuela.

2658
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:31,040
Speaker 5: Who wants it?

2659
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 3: Anyways, We'll be fine. I'm not worried about it.

2660
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,000
Speaker 7: Nikki Glazer shared on Howard Stern all.

2661
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:44,480
Speaker 6: Of the jokes that she left out on the Golden Globes.

2662
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 7: I always like to hear this because.

2663
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 6: We did say that she got pretty good marks for

2664
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 6: this and that she generally was tame. So I'll give

2665
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 6: you the jokes here. Sean Penn, she said, is nominated tonight.

2666
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 6: I'm assuming for best neck veins. Sean Penn is here

2667
02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 6: looking like the defiant last tree standing in the rainforest.

2668
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 25: Like that one.

2669
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 7: Leo DiCaprio, why are you always squinting? I assume it's

2670
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 7: to read your girlfriend's I d.

2671
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 6: Amy Poehler is here for her podcast Good Hang, which

2672
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 6: is what Timothy Chalomey says after sex. Julia Roberts nominated

2673
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:25,600
Speaker 6: for After the Hunt. I don't know what it's about.

2674
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 6: I'm assuming the hunt is to find somebody who has

2675
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 6: seen it.

2676
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's good.

2677
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 6: Let's see Chase Infinity Pain or I'm sorry. Chase Infinity

2678
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,520
Speaker 6: is nominated for Best Actress tonight, and Chase Infinity is

2679
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 6: her real name.

2680
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 7: And this is true.

2681
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 6: If you apply now, you can earn five percent cash

2682
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 6: back when all trashing through her through the end of

2683
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 6: the year. Chase Infinity Pain is her actual real name.

2684
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 6: Chase Infinity Pain is also how Sean Penn gets an erection.

2685
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 5: Imagine why she didn't use these on those old.

2686
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,280
Speaker 6: Gloves and then she has. Brad Pitt is nominated for

2687
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 6: his role in F One tonight. That's what I love

2688
02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:10,400
Speaker 6: about Hollywood. When a man turns sixty, he gets to

2689
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 6: play a race car driver. Meanwhile, after thirty five, every

2690
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 6: role for a woman is a tired mom.

2691
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,960
Speaker 5: Who hates her life. Yeah, that's pretty true. Maybe Tony

2692
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,160
Speaker 5: Takoppol will do that on the CBS Evening News and

2693
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 5: now it's time for propaganda we were gonna give you,

2694
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 5: and I'll just tell you what those were.

2695
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 7: Is it that the news isn't manly enough?

2696
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:34,960
Speaker 6: Apparently there's Tony not manly enough, and they're like, listen,

2697
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 6: we got to beef you up a little bit.

2698
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 3: They may maybe a little from call man little from

2699
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 3: call him bee, I'm a.

2700
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 7: Little whiskey, and told him be like, you know what

2701
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 7: a woman needs.

2702
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 5: I'll tell you who's manly, Max Starks, Ladies and gentlemen

2703
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 5: from the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he gets a round of

2704
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 5: a bushman Steelers Audio Network.

2705
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 3: Max.

2706
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 5: Sorry for the awkward intro, but coming out of the

2707
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 5: new segment here, you never know what we're gonna be

2708
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,800
Speaker 5: talking about. But we have been mostly talking about Mike

2709
02:11:56,920 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 5: Tomlin and his stepping down after nineteen years, and I've

2710
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 5: been still I'm still in a state of shocks the

2711
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 5: wrong word, but I'm still kind of surprised that it

2712
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 5: all happened this fast.

2713
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 3: Where are you landing with absorbing this news? So I'm

2714
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 3: absorbing this a lot better.

2715
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 14: You know, I was actually in the air flying back

2716
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:22,680
Speaker 14: home when when when all of this news kind of.

2717
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 28: Hit yesterday, and so I didn't have Wi Fi for

2718
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 28: like the first hour and a half of the flight.

2719
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,160
Speaker 28: You know, they're like, oh, we got to reboot in

2720
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 28: and you know that that that's like a that's a

2721
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 28: that's a tricky proposition in and of itself, just seeing

2722
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 28: if that actually works or not.

2723
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:40,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and if you're on Southwest, they'll be like

2724
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:42,240
Speaker 5: they may not to fix the WiFi.

2725
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 14: Go ahead, you know, yeah exactly if anybody got flyers, yeah,

2726
02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:48,440
Speaker 14: we're busy.

2727
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well yeah, yeah, we're gonna call a policeman land,

2728
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:53,160
Speaker 3: but we need you to fix this wi fi right now.

2729
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:55,520
Speaker 11: Uh.

2730
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 14: And so by the time it did come back on,

2731
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 14: I just got flooded with everybody trying trying to trying

2732
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 14: to I felt like dropped the news to me. I

2733
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 14: was like, it was funny because like, you know, my

2734
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 14: cousin in law and you know, my mom aunties. Everybody's

2735
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 14: like texting and they're like they're the first, but yet

2736
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,640
Speaker 14: they're asking you a question while asking what do you

2737
02:13:19,720 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 14: think you know? While asking do you know? I'm like, well,

2738
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 14: what if I said I didn't know? Because for the

2739
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 14: first half of those I didn't, But you know, it's

2740
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 14: like it's like but then they want their take to

2741
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 14: So it was just funny how that just all transpired,

2742
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 14: and you know, I had to get home, and when

2743
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:41,560
Speaker 14: I got there in the evening, finally getting off of

2744
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 14: a plane because it's tough to think, you know, we

2745
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 14: had all the flights are like super packed these days

2746
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:49,720
Speaker 14: because they've cut down a lot of the variety of flights,

2747
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:55,240
Speaker 14: and so, you know, after having a moment to kind

2748
02:13:55,240 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 14: of think and sleep on it, this just it seemed

2749
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:05,760
Speaker 14: like this was where it was headed. And I think

2750
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,360
Speaker 14: for you know, I'm not gonna say a majority of

2751
02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 14: Stealer Nation, but a segment of Steeler Nation that was

2752
02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:16,040
Speaker 14: really wanting this and they were burning for it for

2753
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:18,480
Speaker 14: years because they feel like they are a better GM

2754
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 14: than the GM themselves, or they can coach the team

2755
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:24,800
Speaker 14: better than a head coach. I was like, I would

2756
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:26,320
Speaker 14: love for you to even try and get the five

2757
02:14:26,440 --> 02:14:30,760
Speaker 14: hundred at all in nineteen years, as apparently your extensive

2758
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 14: experience tells you. But they got what they wanted, right,

2759
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,360
Speaker 14: and I think that kind of rang true. And the

2760
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 14: thoughts is that we're going to go you know, and

2761
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 14: probably about ten years, fifteen.

2762
02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:47,360
Speaker 3: Years, and that from now and go. Man, I wish

2763
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:49,400
Speaker 3: we would have still had coach Thomas. Yeah, I was like,

2764
02:14:49,640 --> 02:14:50,760
Speaker 3: this would have looked a lot different.

2765
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:53,520
Speaker 14: I mean, the grass is all you know, they believe

2766
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 14: grass is always great, but you know, you know, you

2767
02:14:55,240 --> 02:14:58,160
Speaker 14: know what it is. The grass is always greenest over

2768
02:14:58,240 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 14: a pile of manure.

2769
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:03,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew that. I do know that. Yeah,

2770
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 3: see exactly fertilizer. Max.

2771
02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 15: Let's say you're interviewing for the head coaching job and

2772
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 15: you sit down across from Mart Rooney the second and

2773
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:17,040
Speaker 15: he asks you, Max, what is the biggest, most important

2774
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 15: fix we need to make?

2775
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:22,000
Speaker 3: What would you tell him?

2776
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:25,680
Speaker 14: Well, I think if I'm a defensive coach, run defense.

2777
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 14: If I'm an offensive coach, you know, it's it's get

2778
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:32,360
Speaker 14: is figuring out what we need to do at that

2779
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:35,800
Speaker 14: quarterback position to be competitive. I think those are my

2780
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 14: two biggest answers that's going to.

2781
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 3: Need to be answered this offseason for the next head coach,

2782
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 3: and where their priorities are. You got a quarterback answer? Oh,

2783
02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:47,640
Speaker 3: I don't have one because I'm not I'm not I'm

2784
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 3: not I'm not auditioning for this job. Yeah.

2785
02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 5: So, and I don't think I don't think coach Tomlin

2786
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:54,080
Speaker 5: had one either, and I think that's part of the

2787
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,040
Speaker 5: why the timing lined up for him, is that it

2788
02:15:57,080 --> 02:16:00,959
Speaker 5: was it's it's setting up to be white an uphill

2789
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 5: battle for the Steelers in terms of finding the right quarterback,

2790
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:08,840
Speaker 5: having to deal with another bridge year. You know, he

2791
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:14,320
Speaker 5: just went from Russell Wilson to Aaron Rodgers to who

2792
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 5: knows next year?

2793
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:17,680
Speaker 3: Do you just throw a rookie in there?

2794
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,080
Speaker 5: Do you go out and get another proven veteran to

2795
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:24,360
Speaker 5: be the bridge guy? You know, it seems like he's

2796
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,640
Speaker 5: just done that a couple of times, and there is

2797
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 5: such a need of a reboot.

2798
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 3: You got to have somebody who is willing to be

2799
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:31,320
Speaker 3: in it for the long haul.

2800
02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:36,760
Speaker 5: And clearly, with that carrot dangling of NFL broadcasting money

2801
02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 5: out there waiting for him in a much easier lifestyle,

2802
02:16:39,720 --> 02:16:42,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure it wasn't that hard of a call for

2803
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:42,840
Speaker 5: him in the end.

2804
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:46,640
Speaker 14: Well, and I would throw on there, you know, I

2805
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:49,920
Speaker 14: mean fan disinterest as well.

2806
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:51,439
Speaker 3: I think that.

2807
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:55,959
Speaker 14: I think at the end of the day, you know

2808
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 14: it's going to get to you at some point.

2809
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 3: You know, he's got kids, a wife, you know he

2810
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:04,600
Speaker 3: might be quote unquote a silo, right, but.

2811
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:07,800
Speaker 5: His family's not immune to it, and he's.

2812
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 3: Not immune to his family.

2813
02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 14: You know, he's gonna he's hearing it from his faith,

2814
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 14: even if he doesn't hear it directly as pressure towards him,

2815
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:19,480
Speaker 14: but it's coming. It comes out some way towards the

2816
02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 14: people that he loves, which it then gets back to

2817
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:23,640
Speaker 14: him in a different way.

2818
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 3: And so I think that is.

2819
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:28,920
Speaker 14: How it affects him more than anything else, when it

2820
02:17:28,920 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 14: affects the others that he loves and cares about. And

2821
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:36,840
Speaker 14: so you know that that is an element you have

2822
02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 14: to consider at the head coach position. You know, once again,

2823
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:44,000
Speaker 14: it wasn't because he didn't have his guy, he didn't have.

2824
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 3: His guys in the loft for room ready to play.

2825
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 14: It wasn't because he could not inspire them in tough

2826
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:51,800
Speaker 14: moments to get the best out of them.

2827
02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:54,520
Speaker 3: Because this man is a leader of men.

2828
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 14: At the end of the day, he has made you know,

2829
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,120
Speaker 14: five course lemon based dishes.

2830
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 3: In a cooking competition.

2831
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 14: Based off of what some of the roster you had

2832
02:18:09,320 --> 02:18:13,040
Speaker 14: that looked like, you know, mass rated lemons. You know,

2833
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:17,920
Speaker 14: that's that's what he's done, and that's purely a tip

2834
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,120
Speaker 14: of the cap to him as a coach and a

2835
02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:23,879
Speaker 14: leader and an evaluator of human beings.

2836
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:26,800
Speaker 5: He won unchopped with ingredients that he had to get

2837
02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:28,160
Speaker 5: off the top of the garbage can.

2838
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:32,120
Speaker 3: Exactly, he didn't. He didn't get the basket. You know.

2839
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:35,240
Speaker 14: He they found some basket in a buggy next to

2840
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 14: a dumpster.

2841
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 10: You know.

2842
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. Max.

2843
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:47,320
Speaker 5: Thanks as always for joining us and appreciate you pulling

2844
02:18:47,360 --> 02:18:49,280
Speaker 5: the early hours on the West coast. Is there a

2845
02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:52,359
Speaker 5: tomlinism that will always be one of your favorites?

2846
02:18:56,080 --> 02:18:59,440
Speaker 14: Listen, guys, I mean the newest was was one of

2847
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:04,000
Speaker 14: the greatest. If I had man parts, she'd be mobble.

2848
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:07,200
Speaker 3: That is true.

2849
02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:10,119
Speaker 5: That goes right along with we're still squirreling those nuts.

2850
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 3: Max Starks.

2851
02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, part of the Steelers Audio Network.

2852
02:19:14,560 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 3: Great job this year with King or the two of

2853
02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:18,119
Speaker 3: you are a joy to listen to. Max.

2854
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:23,560
Speaker 14: Thanks listen, I appreciate it. You know, as always, you

2855
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 14: guys have been an institution, so great to come.

2856
02:19:25,560 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 5: On all right, buddy, take care. Max Stark's with the

2857
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:32,120
Speaker 5: Steelers Audio Network. Weaing in on Mike Tomlin's end of

2858
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 5: tenure as head coach here in Pittsburgh after nineteen years.

2859
02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:39,280
Speaker 3: Max sounds a little annoyed with the fans. I didn't

2860
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 3: want to give I was trying to get him to

2861
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:44,200
Speaker 3: back off on that. I appreciate a player's perspective. You know,

2862
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:48,000
Speaker 3: he played for the guy and he's you know what a.

2863
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:53,000
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing in this day and age, it

2864
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:58,400
Speaker 5: is just your Unless you're John Wooden with social media,

2865
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:02,760
Speaker 5: long careers are going to be hard to come by

2866
02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:06,879
Speaker 5: because the external pressure is almost a possible. Like you said,

2867
02:20:06,879 --> 02:20:08,279
Speaker 5: he's got a family those.

2868
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:11,039
Speaker 15: And the financial rewards are such that you don't need

2869
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:12,080
Speaker 15: to have a lacker.

2870
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:14,000
Speaker 3: You just hit it, quit out.

2871
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:16,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, go play golf, man. Except Mike doesn't play golf

2872
02:20:17,959 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 15: to my knowledge. I'm sure he screws around and you know,

2873
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:22,800
Speaker 15: charity events and whatnot.

2874
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:25,920
Speaker 3: But he's a football guy. Man. He's a football junkie.

2875
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,080
Speaker 15: He loves he loves going to training camp, he loves

2876
02:20:29,080 --> 02:20:31,800
Speaker 15: going to the Senior Bowl. He loves to If he

2877
02:20:31,879 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 15: does TV, I think it's going to be a very

2878
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:37,560
Speaker 15: brief Foray into TV. And I'm still not rolling out

2879
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:38,440
Speaker 15: of coaches this year.

2880
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:44,480
Speaker 5: Mike Persuda when we return more on Mike Tomlin and

2881
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 5: who will the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2882
02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 3: Be Wow, that's weird to say. We don't won't be

2883
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:53,160
Speaker 3: Max Starks.

2884
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 22: Live from the Don's Appliance Studios, where Pittsburgh shops for appliances.

2885
02:20:57,560 --> 02:21:00,960
Speaker 5: All right, Mike Persuda on your radio Home of the Steelers, DVE.

2886
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 5: Mike Tollin steps down after nineteen years as the Steelers

2887
02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 5: head coach, and now what.

2888
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 15: Sports is how? Brought to you by Bridgeville appliants. You

2889
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 15: can't tell me life doesn't have a sense of humor.

2890
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:15,400
Speaker 15: On the same day that Mike Tomlin announces he is

2891
02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:18,599
Speaker 15: resigning as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2892
02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:21,279
Speaker 3: The University of Pittsburgh head football.

2893
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:24,320
Speaker 15: Coach Paton Rducy announced the hiring of a new special

2894
02:21:24,320 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 15: teams coordinator, Mike Tomlins. The guy's name is Mike Preefer.

2895
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:32,520
Speaker 15: Mike Prefer used to be the special teams coach of

2896
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 15: the Cleveland Browns, and at the end of the twenty

2897
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:39,920
Speaker 15: twenty season, Mike Preefer made history by becoming the first

2898
02:21:39,959 --> 02:21:43,440
Speaker 15: active head coach to win a playoff game. It was

2899
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:49,119
Speaker 15: at Heinzfield when the Browns beat the Steelers. Yeah, Kevin

2900
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:52,280
Speaker 15: Stefanski had COVID and to pitch credit. In their press release,

2901
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:54,720
Speaker 15: they didn't mention the win was over the Steelers. They

2902
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:57,160
Speaker 15: just said became the first acting head coach to win

2903
02:21:57,200 --> 02:22:02,879
Speaker 15: a playoff game. You know, Yeah, but how about that?

2904
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:09,040
Speaker 15: And that was maybe Mike Tomlin's worst loss ever. Yes, agreed,

2905
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 15: the Browns had no offensive line and they didn't have

2906
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 15: their head coach. He had COVID. He was watching on TV.

2907
02:22:15,879 --> 02:22:19,720
Speaker 15: Back in Strongsville, Ohio, or wherever the other Kevin Stefanski lived.

2908
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:22,440
Speaker 5: People would say the Browns loss this year was one

2909
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:23,640
Speaker 5: of his worst losses ever.

2910
02:22:24,720 --> 02:22:27,920
Speaker 3: Almost people were saying that had.

2911
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 15: They also lost to the Ravens, I think it would

2912
02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:32,720
Speaker 15: have been, because then you could argue that kept him

2913
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:33,480
Speaker 15: out of the playoffs.

2914
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,800
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that's not how it went. I'm glad.

2915
02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 5: I'm glad they at least got to get smacked by Houston.

2916
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:43,000
Speaker 1: Thank god that they didn't lose to the Ravens, because

2917
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:46,440
Speaker 1: then Harbaugh would have done Tomlin in. And yet the

2918
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 1: other way around, thinking about that all morning, that would

2919
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:52,120
Speaker 1: have that would have left a really bad taste to

2920
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a great point.

2921
02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:55,400
Speaker 15: It's kind of like Ahab killing the whale before he

2922
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:58,160
Speaker 15: drowned when the Wales carcass sank to the bottom.

2923
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:02,120
Speaker 5: Right be like the whale, ah and then choking on something.

2924
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Quiz I am gload. You know the way that worked out?

2925
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:09,400
Speaker 15: I mean that Ravens game was one of the great

2926
02:23:09,480 --> 02:23:10,640
Speaker 15: moments in that facility.

2927
02:23:11,080 --> 02:23:12,120
Speaker 3: Hinesfield slash acting.

2928
02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:14,120
Speaker 5: We had a week, didn't we, folks, And we had

2929
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:14,800
Speaker 5: a week.

2930
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:18,320
Speaker 15: The vibe and the buzz and the fielding like people

2931
02:23:18,360 --> 02:23:20,560
Speaker 15: believed this team was different after that.

2932
02:23:20,560 --> 02:23:23,840
Speaker 5: That's why sixty seven thousand and chains showed up on

2933
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:24,480
Speaker 5: Monday night.

2934
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:25,880
Speaker 3: Turned out it wasn't.

2935
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 15: And maybe Mike toml Chan has channeled his inner Winston

2936
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,199
Speaker 15: Churchill and said if not now when.

2937
02:23:31,360 --> 02:23:34,240
Speaker 3: It was a one point game in the fourth quarter.

2938
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, ah, But it's weird.

2939
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:38,040
Speaker 18: To me too.

2940
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:40,080
Speaker 5: And I was thinking about the fact that he clearly

2941
02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:42,280
Speaker 5: knew he was going to step down when it ended,

2942
02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 5: and not that he didn't put everything into winning that game,

2943
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 5: but it had to be a very strange sensation for

2944
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:54,720
Speaker 5: him to know that if they didn't win, he was walking,

2945
02:23:54,879 --> 02:23:58,800
Speaker 5: because he clearly knew that before that game. Nothing happened

2946
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:01,600
Speaker 5: from the end of the game till his meeting with

2947
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:02,680
Speaker 5: our routine the next morning.

2948
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:04,920
Speaker 3: That made him go, you know what I'm done. Certainly

2949
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 3: had to have thought about it, right.

2950
02:24:06,480 --> 02:24:08,959
Speaker 5: Yes, So as he is walking up and down the

2951
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:11,279
Speaker 5: sidelines in the fourth quarter, you depth.

2952
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 3: This is it.

2953
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:13,880
Speaker 15: I don't know if he took the field thinking that,

2954
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:15,840
Speaker 15: or I don't know if he was walking the sidelines

2955
02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:19,120
Speaker 15: thinking he had had to have. Maybe he just came

2956
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 15: to the conclusion, Hey, if I'm already thinking about it,

2957
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:23,720
Speaker 15: like deal Chuck Nole line, if you're thinking about retirement.

2958
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 3: You're retired. Yeah, that might have been it. Maybe he

2959
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:28,359
Speaker 3: just got tired of banging his head against.

2960
02:24:28,120 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 5: The wall or telling those guys over and over what

2961
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:33,280
Speaker 5: to do and then they don't do it. I mean,

2962
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:37,280
Speaker 5: the defense was constantly in flux. Offensive alignment was always

2963
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:41,160
Speaker 5: a mess. It's like, is it coaching or is it

2964
02:24:42,120 --> 02:24:44,720
Speaker 5: players who just won't allow themselves to get the message.

2965
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:44,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2966
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:47,760
Speaker 15: I just think just not good enough, good enough to

2967
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:51,360
Speaker 15: overcome adversity in the regular season and bounce back and

2968
02:24:51,400 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 15: fight through the grind of a long schedule and qualify.

2969
02:24:55,760 --> 02:24:57,240
Speaker 15: Then you got to go to Kansas City and you're

2970
02:24:57,240 --> 02:24:58,760
Speaker 15: not good enough, so you get your ass kicked. You've

2971
02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:00,720
Speaker 15: got to go to Buffalo. Not good enough, so he

2972
02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:03,120
Speaker 15: gets your ass kicked. This one was supposed to be different.

2973
02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:06,400
Speaker 15: I had a lot of respect for Houston, particularly the defense,

2974
02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 15: but I didn't think Houston was offensively gifted enough to

2975
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 15: turn that game into the kind of blowout that the

2976
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:17,120
Speaker 15: Steelers had experienced repeatedly in the postseason leading up to it.

2977
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 15: And turns out the Texans offense wasn't good enough, but

2978
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:23,080
Speaker 15: the defense threw a couple of touchdowns on top of

2979
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 15: the stink sandwich.

2980
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:28,320
Speaker 5: Stink sandwich. Those are terrible.

2981
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:31,400
Speaker 3: It's a fun here, though.

2982
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:34,920
Speaker 5: Mark Madden doesn't think so. Mark's gonna join us shortly.

2983
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:37,960
Speaker 5: He is all in on tanking. Yeah, go out and

2984
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:42,440
Speaker 5: go three and fourteen? Who says no, me? I hate that,

2985
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 5: I too hate that idea. It's been quite a show.

2986
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 5: If you missed anything, we've had, Tim Bench, Charlie Batch,

2987
02:25:50,120 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 5: Merril Hodge, Rob King, Jeremy Fowler, and Max Starts. At

2988
02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:54,360
Speaker 5: this point, you can go back and listen to the

2989
02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:56,560
Speaker 5: show with the DV Morning Show podcast wherever you get

2990
02:25:56,560 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 5: your podcasts streaming online.

2991
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Speaker 3: Start to finish the DV Morning Show double m.

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02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:04,200
Speaker 5: Mark Madden ways in when we come back and we'll

2993
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:06,520
Speaker 5: do some of our favorite tomlinisms on the way out.

2994
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:10,360
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Speaker 17: cranked yep, looks like you're ready to drive.

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Speaker 3: Let's get an you.

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Speaker 5: Rob King here.

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Speaker 3: Staying connected to your Steelers has never been easier.

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Speaker 5: Tune into Steelers Nation Radio one is your radio home

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Speaker 5: Our next guest brought to you by Calusy, serving the

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh area for over one hundred and seven years from

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Speaker 5: Mark Madden, Mark.

3008
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:52,520
Speaker 3: Good morning, Hello again everybody. Mark.

3009
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:57,920
Speaker 5: What do you think was the impetus for Mike Tomlin

3010
02:26:58,120 --> 02:26:59,400
Speaker 5: saying enough's enough?

3011
02:27:00,879 --> 02:27:03,840
Speaker 9: I think the debacle of Monday Night made everybody, not

3012
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:06,680
Speaker 9: at least him, realize enough's enough. That's the fifth straight

3013
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:11,039
Speaker 9: playoff loss by double digits. That's the ninth first run.

3014
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:14,320
Speaker 9: Next in Pittsburgh, we used to make fun of Marty

3015
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:17,960
Speaker 9: Schoenheimer for something that Mike Tomlin wound up matching. So

3016
02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 9: what made it evident to him?

3017
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:20,280
Speaker 10: I don't know.

3018
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:23,039
Speaker 9: I still am not quite sure how much of it

3019
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 9: was him jumping and how much was him being pushed.

3020
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:29,160
Speaker 9: But I think even the most diehard Tomlin supporters would

3021
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:31,080
Speaker 9: have to acknowledge that it was time for his run

3022
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 9: to come to an end. Actually, Randy, I take that back.

3023
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:36,920
Speaker 9: They're not acknowledging that. We keep getting told, well, you'll see,

3024
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:41,360
Speaker 9: You'll see the grass isn't always greener. Mike Greenberg said that,

3025
02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:43,680
Speaker 9: and I tweeted back, Listen, we're not the Jets.

3026
02:27:44,200 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3027
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:46,600
Speaker 9: All the Steel was going to do is win one

3028
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:50,240
Speaker 9: playoff game in the next nine years, and Tomlin's successor

3029
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:51,760
Speaker 9: will have topped him well.

3030
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:57,240
Speaker 5: So the scenario is not as set up for success

3031
02:27:57,320 --> 02:28:00,280
Speaker 5: as it was when Mike Tomlin came in for that,

3032
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:03,080
Speaker 5: and for that matter, when Bill Tower took the job

3033
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:06,279
Speaker 5: from Chuck Nole, Right.

3034
02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:08,360
Speaker 9: There's no question about that. But that's tough took us.

3035
02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:11,360
Speaker 9: I mean, do you want the job or not. I

3036
02:28:11,400 --> 02:28:14,280
Speaker 9: don't think it's an attractive job. I think people who

3037
02:28:14,360 --> 02:28:16,720
Speaker 9: say Marcus Freeman and Kurt Signetti, why would they want

3038
02:28:16,720 --> 02:28:18,840
Speaker 9: to leave where they're at to come here, even though

3039
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:22,320
Speaker 9: Signetti's in the insurer, and you know, the budget for

3040
02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:24,600
Speaker 9: staff ain't going to be great. The facilities aren't great.

3041
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:28,040
Speaker 9: Like you said, it's not set up to succeed, and

3042
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:30,920
Speaker 9: that's the organization's fault. But you got to take some steps,

3043
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 9: and you've got to move backwards sometimes to go forward.

3044
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 9: The last time the Steelers finished with the losing record,

3045
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:40,480
Speaker 9: they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. So I'm not as upset by

3046
02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:43,560
Speaker 9: the possibility of having a few losing seasons, although I'm

3047
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:46,640
Speaker 9: sure to insur nation it will because for apoplexy.

3048
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 5: I am appreciative of Mike Tomlin's run here. I liked

3049
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:55,280
Speaker 5: that we had winning football all those years. I think

3050
02:28:55,320 --> 02:28:58,400
Speaker 5: that it's a big difference to have meaningful football every

3051
02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:01,720
Speaker 5: year in terms of the entertain factor as a fan,

3052
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:05,640
Speaker 5: and also acknowledged that the lack of postseason success meant

3053
02:29:05,720 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 5: something had to change, and you alluded to this, and

3054
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:13,199
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if there was possibly the scenario which Charlie

3055
02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:16,760
Speaker 5: Batch thinks that maybe the Rooney's pushed him in a direction.

3056
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:20,000
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if they said you can stay, but we

3057
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:24,240
Speaker 5: got to change these coordinators and you have to relinquish

3058
02:29:24,280 --> 02:29:28,480
Speaker 5: some of the control. And that was the straw that

3059
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 5: broke the camel's back for him.

3060
02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:32,160
Speaker 9: You know, I threw that out there on my show,

3061
02:29:32,320 --> 02:29:35,200
Speaker 9: and maybe there's something to that, because Randall, it surprised

3062
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:39,199
Speaker 9: me he quit Tuesday morning after showing no indications thereof

3063
02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:41,680
Speaker 9: Monday night. If he was hiding it, he hit it

3064
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:46,720
Speaker 9: very well because I just didn't figure. But I'll be blunt.

3065
02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 9: I think this organization and ownership has always been scared

3066
02:29:50,879 --> 02:29:53,720
Speaker 9: the death of Mike Tomlin, and I think to confront

3067
02:29:53,800 --> 02:29:56,920
Speaker 9: him in a manner like Charlie suggests and I suggested too,

3068
02:29:56,959 --> 02:30:00,320
Speaker 9: would have been very uncharacteristic and come out of no where.

3069
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:03,640
Speaker 9: Doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just not the way

3070
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:04,760
Speaker 9: I would bet.

3071
02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:07,080
Speaker 3: So what do they do now?

3072
02:30:07,160 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 5: I mean some of the names that are being thrown

3073
02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:10,520
Speaker 5: out there are crazy to me. I don't know how

3074
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:13,200
Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman's name gets thrown on top of the pile.

3075
02:30:14,280 --> 02:30:16,560
Speaker 9: Oh, he's not going to take the job, whether they

3076
02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:19,280
Speaker 9: want him, whether they should or not, He's not going

3077
02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 9: to take it. It's better off at Notre Dame. Same

3078
02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:25,400
Speaker 9: with like I said Signetti in Indiana, what they need

3079
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:28,320
Speaker 9: to do is make a clean spreak from their organizational

3080
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:32,880
Speaker 9: mindset about defense and imposing their will because they had

3081
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 9: the most expensive defense in football and it was terrible

3082
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 9: and I didn't see a whole lot of will being

3083
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:41,520
Speaker 9: imposed on Monday night. This league is about offense. It's

3084
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:45,080
Speaker 9: about scoring more and faster, and they need to go

3085
02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 9: in that directional they'll just repeat their mistakes and not

3086
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:52,040
Speaker 9: do as well as they want. The name I keep

3087
02:30:52,120 --> 02:30:55,400
Speaker 9: coming back to is Clint Kubiak, the offensive coridator at Seattle.

3088
02:30:55,800 --> 02:30:59,320
Speaker 9: I think he's the kind of offensive mind that they

3089
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:03,760
Speaker 9: need to get. I would hire Kevin Stefanski, who left

3090
02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:06,000
Speaker 9: the Browns. They're not gonna because they're not going to

3091
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:09,080
Speaker 9: recycle the brons coach, but he's a good offensive mind,

3092
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:11,600
Speaker 9: two time NFL Coach of the Year, and he was

3093
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:14,840
Speaker 9: undone in Cleveland by ownership interference as regards to the

3094
02:31:14,840 --> 02:31:18,680
Speaker 9: Shawn Watson contract. Though those would be my top two candidates.

3095
02:31:18,959 --> 02:31:20,520
Speaker 9: But they need to do more than that. Ran well,

3096
02:31:20,560 --> 02:31:22,920
Speaker 9: they need to clear the staff out. They usually don't.

3097
02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:25,400
Speaker 9: They didn't do that when Tom Win came in and

3098
02:31:25,480 --> 02:31:28,360
Speaker 9: replaced Kawer. They need to push as many players out

3099
02:31:28,360 --> 02:31:30,400
Speaker 9: the door as they can. But I mean, TJ. Watt,

3100
02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:33,920
Speaker 9: who's gonna take on that contract for clearly a clearly

3101
02:31:33,959 --> 02:31:38,039
Speaker 9: declining player. And I knew that was a terrible, terrible

3102
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:40,680
Speaker 9: decision when they gave him that deal. And I'm always

3103
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:44,199
Speaker 9: right and nobody should be surprised this time. But yeah,

3104
02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:46,120
Speaker 9: there's a lot more work to be done besides just

3105
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:46,959
Speaker 9: hiring the coach.

3106
02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:52,040
Speaker 5: Well, this is the problem is they've got some guys

3107
02:31:52,080 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 5: on there that they should probably get rid of. But

3108
02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:56,800
Speaker 5: the cap, the dead cap, would just kill him.

3109
02:31:57,320 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 9: Well, then you lose for a while. Like I said,

3110
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:03,040
Speaker 9: the last time you finished under five hundred, you signed

3111
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:04,960
Speaker 9: Ben Roethlisberg. And by the way, just to clear up

3112
02:32:04,959 --> 02:32:08,400
Speaker 9: what's always been a myth, that streak of no losing

3113
02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:12,080
Speaker 9: seasons for Tomlin, ay, that was mostly ben streak. It

3114
02:32:12,200 --> 02:32:14,600
Speaker 9: started before Tomlin took over, and Ben did more to

3115
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:18,720
Speaker 9: prop it up than Tomlin, for sure, And it always

3116
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:22,039
Speaker 9: became an artificially low bar to reach that the national

3117
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:25,000
Speaker 9: media especially could crow about and say, look at Mike

3118
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:27,480
Speaker 9: tom when he's never had a losing season. But then

3119
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 9: the negative numbers added up, like all those playoff losses

3120
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:33,520
Speaker 9: by double digits, five in a row, and that led

3121
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:34,840
Speaker 9: us to his departure.

3122
02:32:35,160 --> 02:32:36,720
Speaker 3: How many was Ben quarterback for.

3123
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:39,119
Speaker 9: Most of them?

3124
02:32:39,320 --> 02:32:40,320
Speaker 3: The playoff losses?

3125
02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:44,040
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, No, Ben's not blameless in that either. I

3126
02:32:44,080 --> 02:32:46,000
Speaker 9: know you think that nothing's wrong with the team, Mike,

3127
02:32:46,080 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 9: but there is.

3128
02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:49,880
Speaker 15: I never said nothing's wrong with it. I'm just asking

3129
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:50,400
Speaker 15: a question.

3130
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:53,120
Speaker 9: Would you have kept Tomlin? That's the question I'm asking

3131
02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:57,520
Speaker 9: would Yep, you're insane, But everybody's entitled their opinion.

3132
02:33:00,280 --> 02:33:04,480
Speaker 3: You're insane. Next you two are insane. You saying, well,

3133
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:05,200
Speaker 3: I just don't.

3134
02:33:05,320 --> 02:33:07,480
Speaker 9: I just don't see the logic for keeping a guy

3135
02:33:07,879 --> 02:33:10,280
Speaker 9: that just gets his bears blown off in playoff game

3136
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:14,440
Speaker 9: after playoff game. Support You'll see, you'll see what's gonna happen.

3137
02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:16,600
Speaker 9: And the worst part is the next two years it'll

3138
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:18,680
Speaker 9: look like a mistake just based on one lotch. But

3139
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,120
Speaker 9: it's the right move, absolutely the right move.

3140
02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:24,400
Speaker 5: Well, I think his biggest problem was talent assessment and

3141
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:29,600
Speaker 5: his lack of willingness to allow coordinators to have more

3142
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:32,920
Speaker 5: independence and bring in guys with a real pedigree.

3143
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:33,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

3144
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:35,840
Speaker 5: It seemed like he was okay with guys who kind

3145
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:39,520
Speaker 5: of agreed with his defensive philosophy and a more conservative

3146
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:43,240
Speaker 5: offensive approach and that he was okay with and.

3147
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:46,640
Speaker 3: I think he if he were more open to having you.

3148
02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:50,160
Speaker 5: Know, it's I Mike and I disagree on this. I

3149
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:54,039
Speaker 5: think his lack of coaching tree is an indictment and

3150
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:55,599
Speaker 5: that it doesn't.

3151
02:33:55,320 --> 02:33:56,879
Speaker 9: Mean everything, but it doesn't mean.

3152
02:33:56,760 --> 02:33:58,840
Speaker 5: Nothing right, and it doesn't mean I think he was

3153
02:33:58,879 --> 02:34:01,640
Speaker 5: a bad coach. I think that would have really put

3154
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:04,279
Speaker 5: him over the top into untouchable territory.

3155
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:06,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he was an absolute fraud. I think

3156
02:34:06,840 --> 02:34:10,040
Speaker 9: he won with Cowers, players, leaders, and culture. And the

3157
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:12,640
Speaker 9: further we got away from that, the more that became evident.

3158
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:15,120
Speaker 9: Sorry that that's what I think, and that's what the

3159
02:34:15,160 --> 02:34:15,760
Speaker 9: record show.

3160
02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:22,240
Speaker 5: Well, yoga became very correlation is not causation.

3161
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:25,320
Speaker 15: Okay, Now do now do the all time wins? Now

3162
02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:28,680
Speaker 15: do the division titles? Now do ten and seven this year?

3163
02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:32,360
Speaker 9: Now, I'm so excited by ten and seven. I'm so

3164
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:37,600
Speaker 9: excited by the division title. Give me a right time

3165
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:40,360
Speaker 9: with Chuck Noll at all time wins is like comparing

3166
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:43,520
Speaker 9: caviar and horseman. Or he couldn't carry Chuck Noll's jock

3167
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:44,879
Speaker 9: and a hockey equipment bag.

3168
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:46,720
Speaker 3: Chuck would have done with a b.

3169
02:34:48,920 --> 02:34:50,959
Speaker 9: Better than well you see, that's a tough one. That's

3170
02:34:50,959 --> 02:34:52,640
Speaker 9: a tough one because he got a lot of statistically

3171
02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:54,959
Speaker 9: out of a B but it killed the culture and

3172
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:56,359
Speaker 9: they didn't win anything.

3173
02:34:58,120 --> 02:34:58,760
Speaker 3: A lot of games.

3174
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:02,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, if you're happy with that, Mike, then you'll

3175
02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:03,280
Speaker 9: be happy with that.

3176
02:35:04,360 --> 02:35:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to be happy. What makes me happy? Thank you, Mark, But.

3177
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:11,120
Speaker 9: Of course of course you are. But I mean, it's

3178
02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:14,560
Speaker 9: just I remember when this team was based on winning

3179
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:17,039
Speaker 9: super Bowls, when that was the expectation, when that was

3180
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:20,000
Speaker 9: the goal, and it didn't become just an empty slogan

3181
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:23,080
Speaker 9: they preached with no hope of doing it, Like they

3182
02:35:23,080 --> 02:35:25,560
Speaker 9: had no chance at the super Bowl for how many years,

3183
02:35:25,600 --> 02:35:28,880
Speaker 9: none whatsoever beyond getting in the playoffs, and then they

3184
02:35:28,920 --> 02:35:32,440
Speaker 9: got killed, so it wasn't much of a chance. I'm sorry.

3185
02:35:32,440 --> 02:35:34,400
Speaker 9: This is one thousand percent the right move.

3186
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:36,800
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's It's not a matter of whether

3187
02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 5: it's right or not to me. Like I think it's

3188
02:35:39,879 --> 02:35:41,879
Speaker 5: going to be a good change for both people, like

3189
02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:45,080
Speaker 5: both parties. I think everybody benefits here because something needed

3190
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:47,520
Speaker 5: to change. But if I point to one thing that

3191
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 5: was Mike Tomlin's downfall, it was drafting Kenny Pickett.

3192
02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:52,039
Speaker 3: No, no question, And.

3193
02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 9: I said it. Then I said, this will set the

3194
02:35:53,840 --> 02:35:56,160
Speaker 9: team back five years. As it turns out, it's going

3195
02:35:56,200 --> 02:35:59,080
Speaker 9: to be longer. And Mike confirmer deny he was the

3196
02:35:59,080 --> 02:36:00,600
Speaker 9: only guy in the building to do that.

3197
02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

3198
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:08,400
Speaker 15: I don't have that information. Well I do, Okay, I

3199
02:36:08,440 --> 02:36:11,000
Speaker 15: don't think that's how it works. But yeah, I think.

3200
02:36:11,800 --> 02:36:14,959
Speaker 5: I think that a guy like Kenny Pickett, who they

3201
02:36:14,959 --> 02:36:18,959
Speaker 5: should have known forward and backward just by proximity, like

3202
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 5: they should have had a better read on him than

3203
02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:24,720
Speaker 5: they could have had anybody else. But that's my point

3204
02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:26,840
Speaker 5: is to be that wrong about somebody that you had

3205
02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:29,280
Speaker 5: that much access to really speaks to their lack of

3206
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:32,960
Speaker 5: ability to assess talent correctly. And too often he thought

3207
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:37,360
Speaker 5: he could author these reclamation projects from guys who only

3208
02:36:37,360 --> 02:36:38,800
Speaker 5: had two or three games left in them.

3209
02:36:39,400 --> 02:36:40,480
Speaker 3: Well, a big.

3210
02:36:40,280 --> 02:36:43,800
Speaker 9: Problem occurred during the Coward administration when Cowor won the

3211
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:46,840
Speaker 9: power struggle with the GM Tom Donaho, and then it

3212
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:51,119
Speaker 9: became the coach having final say. And that needs to change,

3213
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:53,400
Speaker 9: by the way, the GM needs to get more input,

3214
02:36:53,959 --> 02:36:57,200
Speaker 9: maybe not final say, maybe final say, but just you know,

3215
02:36:57,360 --> 02:37:00,560
Speaker 9: at least where the coach doesn't say this is it period,

3216
02:37:01,040 --> 02:37:03,000
Speaker 9: and he gets his way. But to do that you

3217
02:37:03,080 --> 02:37:05,280
Speaker 9: need a better GM. Oh Mark Conz of being Connor.

3218
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:05,920
Speaker 9: He's a cap guy.

3219
02:37:05,959 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 3: He's not a GM.

3220
02:37:07,360 --> 02:37:09,840
Speaker 5: Mark Madden brought to you by Klusy serving the Pittsburgh

3221
02:37:09,959 --> 02:37:10,680
Speaker 5: I just want to.

3222
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:12,879
Speaker 9: Say I love pursuit. This is I want to say,

3223
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:14,720
Speaker 9: I love pursuit of This is just healthy debate. And

3224
02:37:14,760 --> 02:37:15,199
Speaker 9: I'm right.

3225
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:20,480
Speaker 5: Okay, he feels I stay correct and thank you, super genius.

3226
02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:29,000
Speaker 5: See you, Mark, that's Mark. I'm gonna miss Coach Tomlin. Also,

3227
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:31,280
Speaker 5: I thought there was a need for a change in

3228
02:37:31,360 --> 02:37:36,880
Speaker 5: some regard. So some of my favorite tomlinisms through the years.

3229
02:37:37,480 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 5: There's a lot, you know, there's a lot of many.

3230
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:44,000
Speaker 5: It's a lot that I really like. Cut off your eyelids.

3231
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:45,320
Speaker 5: Love cut off your eyelids.

3232
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:48,959
Speaker 7: If you're a blinker, cut off your eyelids.

3233
02:37:49,280 --> 02:37:56,400
Speaker 5: It's just a pebble in my shoe, Just a pebble

3234
02:37:56,400 --> 02:38:02,120
Speaker 5: in my shoe. Popcorn, alright, is popcorn. I never understood

3235
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 5: the popcorn one made no sense to me. His explanation

3236
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:09,400
Speaker 5: for it was that it meant one thing here, one

3237
02:38:09,400 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 5: thing that I guess because popcorn flies out of the

3238
02:38:11,240 --> 02:38:13,160
Speaker 5: popcorn maker and lands all over the floor.

3239
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 15: Mind always it stays in the same place, Like Coul's

3240
02:38:18,280 --> 02:38:20,000
Speaker 15: in a bag and he put the bag in a

3241
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:23,039
Speaker 15: microwave and then popcorn comes out and it's all right there.

3242
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:25,000
Speaker 7: Popcorn does go everywhere.

3243
02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 1: The clerk should recut Penny on the floor with pebble

3244
02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:29,119
Speaker 1: in my shoe.

3245
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:32,840
Speaker 7: I like that, Take it out and keep moving.

3246
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:38,240
Speaker 5: Big difference between squashing grapes and drinking wine.

3247
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:42,200
Speaker 8: It's a good one, very good. Yeah, when you have

3248
02:38:42,360 --> 02:38:50,039
Speaker 8: red paint, your paint red standard is the standard. Kind

3249
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:51,400
Speaker 8: of drove me out, so I'm not gonna lie to you.

3250
02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:52,119
Speaker 8: I hated that one.

3251
02:38:53,000 --> 02:39:00,320
Speaker 3: Turn shame. Never say never, but never. I'd rather say

3252
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:06,320
Speaker 3: world and sick thoughtfully, non rhythmic. That was a big one.

3253
02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:12,200
Speaker 1: I've tried to embrace that in a lot of forums.

3254
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:15,160
Speaker 5: You don't have to elaborate.

3255
02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm a volunteers, not hostages.

3256
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:19,280
Speaker 5: Always a good one.

3257
02:39:19,400 --> 02:39:20,400
Speaker 7: I say it all the time.

3258
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:25,640
Speaker 5: I do. My windshield is bigger than my rear view mirror.

3259
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:27,440
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

3260
02:39:30,200 --> 02:39:32,840
Speaker 7: But I don't send messages make moves.

3261
02:39:33,879 --> 02:39:36,040
Speaker 3: That's that's not Steven Seagall.

3262
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:37,760
Speaker 5: Why not?

3263
02:39:37,879 --> 02:39:43,879
Speaker 1: Both statistics are for losers? Like who do you think

3264
02:39:43,879 --> 02:39:47,520
Speaker 1: you said that to? Elis Cannon. I don't even think

3265
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:49,920
Speaker 1: he's is he even around over there?

3266
02:39:49,959 --> 02:39:50,279
Speaker 7: Anyway?

3267
02:39:51,600 --> 02:39:53,879
Speaker 3: Football is our game. Our business is winning.

3268
02:39:56,800 --> 02:40:02,400
Speaker 5: It's difficult to box without sparring another one. Got to

3269
02:40:02,440 --> 02:40:05,560
Speaker 5: get comfortable with being uncomfortable.

3270
02:40:06,280 --> 02:40:06,840
Speaker 7: Do you like that?

3271
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:09,280
Speaker 5: The one that came back to bite him in the

3272
02:40:09,320 --> 02:40:10,760
Speaker 5: ass the most times, though.

3273
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Was we don't live in our fears.

3274
02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

3275
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:18,280
Speaker 1: That was used as a cudgel to crush Mike Tomlin

3276
02:40:18,440 --> 02:40:21,280
Speaker 1: after anytime he didn't go for it on four of

3277
02:40:21,320 --> 02:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the inches, anytime he punted, Yeah.

3278
02:40:25,920 --> 02:40:28,959
Speaker 3: Any time he didn't stick his hand on a burner on.

3279
02:40:28,920 --> 02:40:33,840
Speaker 5: A hot stove like taxi driver. Heinz Ward has money

3280
02:40:33,879 --> 02:40:35,600
Speaker 5: in my emotional bank account.

3281
02:40:35,879 --> 02:40:39,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think the interest rate is on that.

3282
02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:44,880
Speaker 5: I can give you all the ingredients to the hot dog,

3283
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:46,920
Speaker 5: but you might not like it.

3284
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:53,080
Speaker 7: You wouldn't really gross stuff in there.

3285
02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:56,840
Speaker 3: Rat dropping a lot of meat on the growth bone.

3286
02:40:57,280 --> 02:40:59,040
Speaker 7: I was waiting for you to do it, because if

3287
02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:00,359
Speaker 7: you weren't gonna do it.

3288
02:41:01,360 --> 02:41:04,360
Speaker 3: I love me on the growth bone.

3289
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe we haven't made a bigger deal about

3290
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:10,400
Speaker 1: that one, because that one's good.

3291
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:13,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, where's the growth bone?

3292
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:18,679
Speaker 3: I'm not into making predictions. I'm into making preparations.

3293
02:41:19,879 --> 02:41:22,840
Speaker 5: Leadership's not about being in charge, about taking charge of

3294
02:41:22,879 --> 02:41:24,800
Speaker 5: those in your charge.

3295
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 29: It's not about what we want to do. It's about

3296
02:41:27,720 --> 02:41:34,199
Speaker 29: what we're about to do. I'm not into moral victories.

3297
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:36,240
Speaker 29: I'm into victories.

3298
02:41:36,320 --> 02:41:44,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hell yeah. We're going to pursue perfection, knowing

3299
02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:49,160
Speaker 5: full well we won't catch it, but we're gonna relentlessly

3300
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:49,640
Speaker 5: chase it.

3301
02:41:50,840 --> 02:41:56,280
Speaker 26: Oh wow, I'm a big believer. You don't rise to

3302
02:41:56,320 --> 02:41:59,080
Speaker 26: the occasion, you sink to the level of your training.

3303
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:02,800
Speaker 26: Are you okay over there? Are you gonna do?

3304
02:42:02,879 --> 02:42:03,480
Speaker 5: You need a fan?

3305
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:07,440
Speaker 7: Buy me dinner next time? Before you start this list?

3306
02:42:11,360 --> 02:42:20,320
Speaker 3: When you win, nobody remembers who got the credit. He's

3307
02:42:20,360 --> 02:42:22,440
Speaker 3: are making me sad, Brandy, do you need a hug?

3308
02:42:24,440 --> 02:42:26,160
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna cut off my eye lids and move forward.

3309
02:42:26,800 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 1: You know what the worst or the most defensive tominism was,

3310
02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't know who cuts my grass.

3311
02:42:35,360 --> 02:42:36,959
Speaker 3: I'll never let him off the hook for that.

3312
02:42:37,000 --> 02:42:41,400
Speaker 12: It's a landscaper, I for that.

3313
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:46,320
Speaker 1: That's when he lost me. The poor guy who cut

3314
02:42:46,360 --> 02:42:50,960
Speaker 1: his grass. That guy had been telling people four years.

3315
02:42:52,240 --> 02:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I got coach dominds. I'm not a big bragger. I

3316
02:42:54,520 --> 02:42:56,320
Speaker 1: don't like the brag, but I do.

3317
02:42:56,480 --> 02:42:56,600
Speaker 24: Uh.

3318
02:42:56,680 --> 02:42:57,840
Speaker 3: You know, I have the thalm on account.

3319
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:01,360
Speaker 15: That's like on it because a Bek new who cut

3320
02:43:01,400 --> 02:43:02,760
Speaker 15: his grass. He just wouldn't pay them.

3321
02:43:04,840 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 5: That's movie. Well thanks for the memories, coach Tomlin, and

3322
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:15,279
Speaker 5: uh onward and upward for everybody.

3323
02:43:15,400 --> 02:43:18,879
Speaker 3: Well onward. Yeah, I might be down here for a while.

3324
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:20,520
Speaker 3: I guess this means so.

3325
02:43:20,600 --> 02:43:24,360
Speaker 5: Long Aaron Rodgers, I would assume he's not coming back

3326
02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:24,760
Speaker 5: to play here.

3327
02:43:24,840 --> 02:43:27,560
Speaker 3: He might play somewhere. I ain't gonna be here, Arthur Smith,

3328
02:43:28,760 --> 02:43:29,080
Speaker 3: see you.

3329
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:36,080
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers reunite for one last grab of

3330
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:40,520
Speaker 1: the brass ring. Mcarthy's not being mentioned at all Greenfield.

3331
02:43:40,600 --> 02:43:41,840
Speaker 1: He could be the good Bridge guy.

3332
02:43:41,959 --> 02:43:42,160
Speaker 3: You know.

3333
02:43:42,320 --> 02:43:44,520
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to have another twenty year

3334
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:46,680
Speaker 5: head coach. That's just not how the league works now.

3335
02:43:47,720 --> 02:43:49,240
Speaker 3: It's that's the dumbest idea I ever heard.

3336
02:43:49,320 --> 02:43:53,480
Speaker 5: Bring him back, like put the basics of like, hey, coach,

3337
02:43:53,480 --> 02:43:58,400
Speaker 5: we're bringing you here to just restore the foundation. Expectation

3338
02:43:58,840 --> 02:44:02,840
Speaker 5: is simply that, and then we're gonna bounce you in

3339
02:44:02,879 --> 02:44:04,360
Speaker 5: a few years because you're not gonna want to coach

3340
02:44:04,360 --> 02:44:07,800
Speaker 5: anymore anyways. And then we'll get a platform set for

3341
02:44:07,840 --> 02:44:11,080
Speaker 5: the next up and coming Ben Johnson or whoever that

3342
02:44:11,240 --> 02:44:11,560
Speaker 5: might be.

3343
02:44:11,640 --> 02:44:14,920
Speaker 15: I'm actually it's all seriously, I'm very curious if their

3344
02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:18,200
Speaker 15: mindset is, Okay, we're three for three in the last

3345
02:44:18,200 --> 02:44:20,920
Speaker 15: three times we did this, even though it's only, you know,

3346
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:24,560
Speaker 15: a seventy year window, let's run it back and do

3347
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:25,120
Speaker 15: it that way.

3348
02:44:25,240 --> 02:44:27,199
Speaker 3: Or are they gonna embrace a new.

3349
02:44:29,440 --> 02:44:32,640
Speaker 15: Model for what they want, Like, would they consider a

3350
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:34,039
Speaker 15: guy who's been a head coach before?

3351
02:44:34,080 --> 02:44:34,280
Speaker 3: Now?

3352
02:44:34,280 --> 02:44:38,360
Speaker 15: Would they consider a college guy? Would they consider something

3353
02:44:38,400 --> 02:44:43,360
Speaker 15: other than the young, up and coming, defensive minded Yeah,

3354
02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:44,440
Speaker 15: I'm with you on next guy.

3355
02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:47,119
Speaker 1: You mentioned it in one of your sports updates, Mike,

3356
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:49,200
Speaker 1: and I think this has been overlooked. You need someone

3357
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:51,800
Speaker 1: who is not going to be overwhelmed by the job

3358
02:44:51,959 --> 02:44:56,400
Speaker 1: right away and like horribly fatigued, someone who loves football

3359
02:44:56,400 --> 02:44:57,920
Speaker 1: in the way that I don't know.

3360
02:44:58,360 --> 02:44:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

3361
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 5: McCarthy fills the bill on that one. We're gonna have

3362
02:45:02,560 --> 02:45:03,920
Speaker 5: coaches meetings at Zeno's.

3363
02:45:05,720 --> 02:45:13,199
Speaker 15: I gotta go to Alis you guys tomorrow never leaves Greenfield.

3364
02:45:13,360 --> 02:45:15,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take a nap and we'll figure it out,

3365
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:16,360
Speaker 5: all right.

3366
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:16,880
Speaker 3: We gotta go.

3367
02:45:18,280 --> 02:45:22,280
Speaker 5: Thanks to Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,

3368
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:25,680
Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowler, Max Starts, and Mark Madden. We had a

3369
02:45:25,720 --> 02:45:30,520
Speaker 5: full list of Steelers insiders this morning, and if you

3370
02:45:30,520 --> 02:45:31,920
Speaker 5: want to catch any that can go back and listen

3371
02:45:31,920 --> 02:45:33,320
Speaker 5: to it on the podcast Start to Finish wherever you

3372
02:45:33,360 --> 02:45:36,240
Speaker 5: get your podcasts. The morning Show, Michell's out next with

3373
02:45:36,240 --> 02:45:38,280
Speaker 5: the Electric Lunch at noon. Thanks Ted Whistle for hanging

3374
02:45:38,320 --> 02:45:41,680
Speaker 5: out with us this morning. And uh here we go

3375
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:47,600
Speaker 5: Gus Steelers. Thanks Coach t I'm finished. You stay classy, Pittsburgh.

3376
02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:48,560
Speaker 5: Don't touch your face?

3377
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:50,959
Speaker 16: Hey cut him type baby.

3378
02:45:51,080 --> 02:45:52,560
Speaker 2: But now you guys call me Ronald?

3379
02:45:52,600 --> 02:45:53,800
Speaker 7: Would you not eat my pants?

3380
02:45:54,000 --> 02:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Ronald? What gogglehead?

3381
02:46:04,160 --> 02:46:07,280
Speaker 13: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought

3382
02:46:07,280 --> 02:46:10,160
Speaker 13: to you by your neighborhood for its store and Steelers

3383
02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:12,600
Speaker 13: Pro shop. Get it direct from the team at shop

3384
02:46:12,600 --> 02:46:13,920
Speaker 13: dot Steelers dot com.

3385
02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Here's Tom Opperman.

3386
02:46:15,160 --> 02:46:17,160
Speaker 19: For the first time since two thousand and seven, the

3387
02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:19,600
Speaker 19: Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.

3388
02:46:20,160 --> 02:46:23,080
Speaker 19: Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after

3389
02:46:23,200 --> 02:46:26,600
Speaker 19: nineteen seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers by Tomlin,

3390
02:46:26,680 --> 02:46:29,279
Speaker 19: leaves behind a legacy that includes a Super Bowl championship,

3391
02:46:29,480 --> 02:46:33,760
Speaker 19: two AFC Championships, eight AFC North Division titles, thirteen total

3392
02:46:33,800 --> 02:46:37,080
Speaker 19: playoff appearances, and of course, never having had a losing season.

3393
02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:39,520
Speaker 19: The news comes on the heels of the Steelers losing

3394
02:46:39,520 --> 02:46:41,480
Speaker 19: thirty to six of the Texans in the Wildcard round

3395
02:46:41,480 --> 02:46:44,640
Speaker 19: Monday night, team's seventh straight playoff loss, the worst than

3396
02:46:44,680 --> 02:46:47,879
Speaker 19: franchise history. Steelers will now enter into a coaching market

3397
02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:50,440
Speaker 19: where they will be competing with eight other NFL teams

3398
02:46:50,440 --> 02:46:53,720
Speaker 19: searching for a head coach, including their division rivals Baltimore

3399
02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:57,039
Speaker 19: and Cleveland. As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well,

3400
02:46:57,040 --> 02:46:59,279
Speaker 19: that remains to be seen, although it has been reported

3401
02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:01,520
Speaker 19: by ESPN's at Schefter that has expected that he will

3402
02:47:01,520 --> 02:47:04,240
Speaker 19: take a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other

3403
02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:08,280
Speaker 19: ventures like television. Whenever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the

3404
02:47:08,280 --> 02:47:10,440
Speaker 19: Steelers will be looking for just the fourth head coach

3405
02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:11,400
Speaker 19: and team history.

3406
02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:13,400
Speaker 5: Since nineteen sixty nine, and seeing as.

3407
02:47:13,280 --> 02:47:16,080
Speaker 19: The previous three are all super Bowl champions and two

3408
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:18,879
Speaker 19: of three are already in ken With Mike Tomlin surely

3409
02:47:18,920 --> 02:47:22,200
Speaker 19: on his way as the third. Eventually, the shoes are

3410
02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:24,360
Speaker 19: going to be pretty big to fill for whoever does

3411
02:47:24,400 --> 02:47:27,360
Speaker 19: get the job. Steelers owner and president Art Rooney will

3412
02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:30,080
Speaker 19: speak to the media today at noon to address coach

3413
02:47:30,120 --> 02:47:31,160
Speaker 19: Tomlin stepping down.

3414
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report. He goes for

3415
02:47:36,600 --> 02:47:41,880
Speaker 3: it and he's got it. That's another legendary play for Pittsburgh,

3416
02:47:42,040 --> 02:47:43,760
Speaker 3: perfectly displays the precision and