WEBVTT - Sports talk with Lance McAlister -- 12/16/25

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<v Speaker 1>The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go seven oh six, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>WLW Welcome in RNL Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Cherfila.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm last calst. You're glad to have you here. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that two hours is going to be enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight it will include you with a personal invite to

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<v Speaker 2>the phones in a bit, a couple of college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>coaches on this date, and more. What do you say

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<v Speaker 2>we get to it. Let's start with some headlines the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get back on the practice field tomorrow and get

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<v Speaker 2>to work on the Dolphins for Sunday in Miami. The

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<v Speaker 2>Athletics Paul Dayner Junior report Zach Taylor actually has two

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<v Speaker 2>more years left on his contract after this year, not

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<v Speaker 2>one is previously believed. Zach quietly got an extension after

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty two AFC Championship game. In transactional news today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals claimed wide receiver Keyshawn Williams claimed him off

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<v Speaker 2>waivers from the Steelers. He appeared in eight games this

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<v Speaker 2>year with Pittsburgh, returned eleven punts, returned eighteen kickoffs. He

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<v Speaker 2>was waived by the Steelers yesterday. The Bengals returner Charlie Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with an ankle issue. Asked today by reporters if

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<v Speaker 2>he's considering replacing quarterback two at tag of Ola, Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>coach Mike McDaniel said, quote, everything's on the table. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play well last night. Zach Wilson and Quinn Ewers are

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<v Speaker 2>options on the Dolphins roster. Stay tuned. College football, Bearcats

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<v Speaker 2>working on Navy and the Liberty Bowl January twond defensive

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<v Speaker 2>back or Monny Arnold and Willie Goodwin are entering the

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<v Speaker 2>transfer portal. I believe unless somebody has entered within the

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<v Speaker 2>last few minutes, that's seven Bearcats in the portal, their

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback Brendan Sorosby, and six other defensive backs. The quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>coach has departed, and two front office people took jobs

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<v Speaker 2>in other programs. Red's news on a couple of different

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<v Speaker 2>fronts to get to in a second, let.

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<v Speaker 3>Me give you college basketball one.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the scoreboard update, we will monitor tonight Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee, Miami and Wright State dating against Florida State

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<v Speaker 2>and Ohio University versus Ohio Wesleyan. You see, women are

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<v Speaker 2>underway at fifth third Arena Versus Howard. Catch the action

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<v Speaker 2>on fifty five karc as you heard off the top

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps during Red's hot Stove. The Red's Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame class of twenty twenty six announced today. It includes

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<v Speaker 2>four members Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang, Reggie Sanders, and Loop Panella.

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<v Speaker 2>The inductees will be honored April twenty fourth through the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth transactional News for the Reds today, they have,

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<v Speaker 2>according to reports, left handed reliever Caleb Ferguson, twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>years old. It's reportedly a one year deal. Last season,

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<v Speaker 2>pitching for the Pirates and the Mets, appeared in seventy

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<v Speaker 2>games with an earned run average of three point five eight.

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<v Speaker 2>He keeps the ball in the ballpark, just two home

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<v Speaker 2>runs allowed it over sixty five innings. Pitched. Caleb Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 2>left hander to the bullpen. One hundred days to Red's

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<v Speaker 2>opening day, hockey Blue Jackets just underway looking to get

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<v Speaker 2>back on track Versus Anaheim tonight, Columbus has dropped five straight.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been beat up physically and in the standings for

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<v Speaker 2>those in regulation. Anderson High School football coach Evan Dryer

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<v Speaker 2>from Anderson, of course, the winner of the Paul Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Excellencing Coaching Award. The award has been given annually by

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals since two thousand and two. It honors outstanding

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<v Speaker 2>high school football coaches in the region and includes a

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand dollars Bengals donation to Anderson High School's athletic department.

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<v Speaker 2>Dryer led the Raptors to a fourteen and one final record,

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<v Speaker 2>two straight appearances now in the Division two State championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nick Saban, former Alabama coach, now a minority owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the NHL Nashville Predators.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some of your headlines. Remember if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>missed the show, miss an episode, Miss Bengals Lied last night,

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<v Speaker 2>me lab players coaches discussion about what exactly took place

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<v Speaker 2>guest wise around seven thirty five, Darren Horne, we will

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<v Speaker 2>Norse up with Coach Horror, the head coach or basketball

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<v Speaker 2>coach of the NKU Norse Big One tomorrow night Truz

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<v Speaker 2>Doreena against Oakland eight O six. Richard Pattino talks Xavier

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<v Speaker 2>Musketeer basketball in advance of the Big East opener tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>night against Creighton. But in and around that, you on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of different fronts, and let's start here. The

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<v Speaker 2>previous hour of Red's Hot Stove was filled with guests

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<v Speaker 2>and conversation about the Reds Hall of Fame. If you

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<v Speaker 2>were tuned in, you heard Aaron Harang, you heard Reggie Sanders,

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<v Speaker 2>you heard Rick Walls, you heard Marty Brenneman. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. I want to celebrate these four individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Phillips and Aaron Harang, and Reggie Sanders and Lou Panela.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a story, a moment, a memory, a game,

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<v Speaker 2>by all means five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred the Big One. If you'd like to jump in,

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<v Speaker 2>man four A Brandon Phillips for my money. The best

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<v Speaker 2>defensive base second baseman I've seen in Red's history. All

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<v Speaker 2>due respect to Joe Morgan, but Brandon Phillips had a

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<v Speaker 2>shortstop's arm playing second base. He did it with style

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<v Speaker 2>and flair, and there was a little bit of hot

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<v Speaker 2>dog to him, and some relish on that hot dog.

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<v Speaker 2>He had pop. He was a fan favorite. He would

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<v Speaker 2>show up here, there, and everywhere out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 2>four gold gloves, a Silver Slugger, three time All Star,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Phillips was. It was masterful in the field and

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<v Speaker 2>again to be playing the second base position. Most guys

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<v Speaker 2>play second base because they don't have the arm to

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<v Speaker 2>play shortstop. He had the arm to play shortstop. He

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<v Speaker 2>happened to be at second base. He was something to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Harang consistent, durable, reliable, pitched on some bad teams.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go back to two thousand and six, Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Harang led the National League in wins. He led the

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<v Speaker 2>National League in starts, in complete games, and in strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 2>and did not get a single vote for the Cy Young.

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<v Speaker 2>The next year he did get votes for the Cy Young.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk Aaron Harang and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk Brandon Phillips. I want to talk Reggie Sanders because,

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<v Speaker 2>for my money, Reggie Sanders is among a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>the most underrated Reds in franchise history. I think Reggie

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders is one of the most underrated players in baseball history.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in a very exclusive club. There are only eight

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<v Speaker 2>players in the history of the game with at least

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred home runs and three hundred stolen bases. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me repeat that, only eight in the history of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know that company. Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonds,

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<v Speaker 2>Willie Mays, Alex Rodriguez, Steve Finley, Andre Dawson, Carlos Beltran,

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<v Speaker 2>and Reggie Sanders eight all time. Jose Ramirez this coming

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<v Speaker 2>season for the Guardians, will join that ex exclusive company.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, sadly, Reggie Sanders the perception, the fan perception

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<v Speaker 2>of Reggie Sanders is skewed by the postseason of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five. He had a tremendous, fabulous nineteen ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>or nineteen ninety five regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>His postseason was a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think unfortunately people tend to remember that before

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<v Speaker 2>they remember what he did for his career. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>his time with the Reds, look at his time as

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<v Speaker 2>a major leaguer over seventeen seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's Lou Penela. Remember what Lou walked into.

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<v Speaker 2>He walked in on the heels of the chaos involving

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<v Speaker 2>Pete and the investigation and the scandal and the gambling

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<v Speaker 2>under Pete. They had finished second, second, second, second, four

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<v Speaker 2>years in a row and second. Then came the controversy

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<v Speaker 2>and the investigation and the chaos and the suspension and

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<v Speaker 2>they finished fifth that year. Then Lou comes in very

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<v Speaker 2>first season Wire to Wire only managed three years. Years.

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<v Speaker 2>But when's the World Series? Let's spend some time talking

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon and Aaron and Reggie and Lou. Let me open

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<v Speaker 2>up the lines five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred, the big One. When you hear those names,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think of? What moments, what memories? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of celebrate. We got four going into the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hear from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Next.

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<v Speaker 2>It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk. It is presented by Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>Chevallet and right here on seven hundred WLW seven twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one seven hundred WLWRNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet.

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<v Speaker 2>My guys, stop buying. Tell him.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Hey, they will take care of you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on X.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to contribute to our conversation about the

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<v Speaker 2>four new Reds Hall of Famers Atlance Mecaalis Terra on

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<v Speaker 2>X where you want to jump in by phone? By

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<v Speaker 2>all means five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred the big one. Let's talk Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Famers and BP let's head to Hamilton. Eric, you were

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Cornan on Lance.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me how about Bray Phillips Reds Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in my late thirties. I grew up on Sean Casey,

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the class for me. And I went to

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<v Speaker 5>a Bengals game in probably twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon Phillips was there.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a rainy game.

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<v Speaker 5>I had on my Camo rain gear because I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>deer hut and walk up Brandon Phillips and he goes,

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<v Speaker 5>what are you doing out here killing babies? And he

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<v Speaker 5>gave me a handshake, took a photo with me, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like he was the most down the earth

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<v Speaker 5>dude I've ever met, and he was the baddest second

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<v Speaker 5>baseman I've ever watched. Just the back flips, the just

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<v Speaker 5>all the all the plays he's made, just turning plays

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<v Speaker 5>behind the back, under the leg all that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he's a Savannah bananas essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it look easy, he made it look smooth,

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<v Speaker 2>and he always he always paid respect to the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>The fans loved him, and he loved the fans back.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what made Brandon Phillips who he is.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's he's my all time favorite player, that dude

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<v Speaker 5>BP and he and he was he literally he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know when I heard killing Bambi Camo, I had

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<v Speaker 5>Cama rang here on because it was a rainy bang

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<v Speaker 5>and he were on the bud like that and he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't care. I mean, no worries in the world, no security,

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<v Speaker 5>just hanging out with the fans.

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<v Speaker 4>It was. It was the coolest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Brandon. Hey, Eric, thanks for listening, Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, thanks Lance, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what I'm looking for some stories. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what else I think of when I think of Brandon Phillips.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a consistency to him, to the point of

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of eerie. In twenty ten he hit

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen home runs. In twenty eleven he hit eighteen home runs,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve, eighteen home runs. And in twenty let's see, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was what years? It was ten, eleven, twelve and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>four straight years he hit eighteen home runs. How about

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<v Speaker 2>that for consistency doubles by thirty thirty three, thirty eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>That was batting average around the mid two seventies. That

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<v Speaker 2>was Brandon Phillips at the plate and in the field,

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<v Speaker 2>slick among the modern era Reds. That's post nineteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Among second basements, he leads in hits, doubles, homers, ribis

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<v Speaker 2>three time All Star, four Gold Gloves, Silver Slugger, voted

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<v Speaker 2>red ZMVP three times, lead National League second basement and

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<v Speaker 2>fielding percentage three times, assist three times, put outs twice.

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<v Speaker 2>His rank top ten all time in Red's history in

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<v Speaker 2>the following categories games, runs, hits, doubles, twelfth all time,

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<v Speaker 2>in homers, eleventh all time in Ribby's fifteenth all time

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<v Speaker 2>in steels thirty thirty season in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the two thousand and ten twelve and thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>playoff teams. And I will also say this, when I

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<v Speaker 2>think of Brandon Phillips, I think of Wayne Krivsky. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always thought that Wayne Krivsky never got the respected

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<v Speaker 2>appreciation that he deserved in his time here former Reds

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<v Speaker 2>general manager.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Wayne.

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<v Speaker 2>Krivsky who swooped in first week in April two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and six. The Cleveland Indians had dfade Brandon Phillips, designated

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<v Speaker 2>him for assignment. They had ten days to trade him

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<v Speaker 2>or release him, and Wayne Krivsky swoops in and offers

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<v Speaker 2>a player to be named later to get Brandon Phillips,

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<v Speaker 2>classic change of scenery guy. He and the Indians at

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<v Speaker 2>the time didn't see eye to eye. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that that style and flash and pizzazz, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of hot dog getting rubbed some people the wrong way,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a guy who was in need of

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<v Speaker 2>a change of scenery. Incomes Walt Jockety. Player to be

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<v Speaker 2>named later was actually not named until June of that year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pitcher named Jeff Stevens, and Jeff Stevens

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<v Speaker 2>eventually made it to the Big Legs, pitched a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than a cup of coffee, but

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<v Speaker 2>compared to trast what Brandon Phillips did for this team.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, by the way, Wayne Krivsky traded Willie Mopana

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<v Speaker 2>to get Bronson Arroyo. So Wayne Krivsky in those two

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<v Speaker 2>trades acquired two Red's Hall of famers. Not to che

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Harang for his career in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, for whatever reason, he didn't get a single

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<v Speaker 2>Cy Young vote. He led the National League and wins

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen and eleven. He made thirty five starts. Oh can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine the value of that today through two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty four innings, six complete games, and led the

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<v Speaker 2>National League in shutouts. He faced more batters than anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else in the National League that year, didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>vote for Cy Young. The next year he comes back,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes sixteen and six and he finished fourth in

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<v Speaker 2>cy Young through two hundred and thirty one innings. How

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<v Speaker 2>much do you think that would be worth in this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age to have a starting pitcher in back

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<v Speaker 2>to back seasons, actually in a three season sequence through

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eleven innings, two hundred and thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>and two hundred and thirty one. In fact, his cy

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<v Speaker 2>young year of seven. Let me pull that up. He

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<v Speaker 2>finishes behind Jake Peavey San Diego, Brandon w Web Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>Pride of Ashland, Kentucky, and Brad Penny of the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>They went one, two, three, Aaron Harang winds up four.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard not to think of Aaron Harang and think

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<v Speaker 2>of I believe it was two thousand and eight that

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<v Speaker 2>season the Reds played. I'll never forget this because I

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting at what was it called at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown whatever the Downtown Arena was called at that point,

0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was watching the Cincinnati Cyclones play on a

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday night in the playoffs, and I had my headphones

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the Reds game because the Reds Padres had

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<v Speaker 2>gone eighteen innings in San Diego that day and the

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<v Speaker 2>game running so long. I just I was following, but

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<v Speaker 2>we were going into the arena to watch the game,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm listening to it. And that's the game that

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<v Speaker 2>Dusty Baker turned and used Harangu somewhere an extra innings,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the sequencing was he brought him back, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, two days later to make his normal start,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like four days later he picked again. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a sequence of a lot of pitches and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of innings in a short amount of time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it had a tremendous negative effect on Aaron Harang. Some

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<v Speaker 2>would say it kind of changed the trajectory of his

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<v Speaker 2>career for at least a bit. He did wind up pitching, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>how many more years? Eight nine more years? He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite the same. Did win fourteen for San Diego three

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<v Speaker 2>years later, but it took him a while, and clearly

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<v Speaker 2>that had an impact on him in the short term.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will always remember that eighteen inning game, Reds, Podres,

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<v Speaker 2>Dusty and Aaron Harang. Congratulations to Aaron, who is in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame tonight, along with Reggie Sanders, who

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to, and lou Panella, who I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to. Do me a favor and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get a check on news and Darren Horn's gonna check

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<v Speaker 2>in talk a little norse. Do me a favor and

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<v Speaker 2>look up to go to Baseball Reference and Baseball Reference

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<v Speaker 2>as a website that will allow you to pull up

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<v Speaker 2>the career page of every player whoever appeared in a

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<v Speaker 2>Major League baseball game. Just look up Reggie Sanders, look

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<v Speaker 2>up his career, and I think it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>looks you'll say, oh, wait a minute, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>he had that kind of career. I mean, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>over three hundred doubles, over three hundred homers, and over

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred steals. And I know, I know he struggled

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety five in the postseason, but look at that

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<v Speaker 2>regular season in ninety five as well, over one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty three games that As we continue, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to spend a little bit more time with you celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>these four players tonight with your reaction after we check

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<v Speaker 2>news RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred WLW WLWRNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm LANs for countle Hey. Thanks for hanging out tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk some hoops truest a reign of the site

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<v Speaker 2>in partnership with Meyer and Toys for tot's always a

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<v Speaker 2>cool scene. The Norse of nine and three overall, one

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<v Speaker 2>in one in league play. They are undefeated seven to

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<v Speaker 2>zero at home going into the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? I love stats. Going into the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>the Norse were the only team in the country with

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<v Speaker 2>three players that had scored at least one hundred and

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.520
<v Speaker 2>seventy points this year. How about that? For more on

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<v Speaker 2>the Norse, let's Norris up welcome in their head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of the show. We love talking with them. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be Darren Horne. How are you doing great?

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<v Speaker 4>Lance? Thanks for having me man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for catching up with me tonight. I look today,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are averaging almost eighty six points a game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's eleven more points per game than any team you've had.

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<v Speaker 7>There.

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<v Speaker 2>What's gotten into your offense this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Better players?

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<v Speaker 8>We just we just got more guys that not only

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<v Speaker 8>can score the ball, Lance, but I think are willing

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<v Speaker 8>passers that have basketball lot Q to make the right

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<v Speaker 8>next and we're just we're getting a lot more easy shots.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>The other thing about that is, you know we're still top.

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<v Speaker 8>You know it changes every day, but as of Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 8>top ten in the country, and turnover percentage is still

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 8>top fifteen and steals percentage, so our defense is leading

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<v Speaker 8>to a lot of transition, which is easy baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>LJ wells ten games this year with at least ten

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<v Speaker 2>points in five boards. That's top ten in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you refer to him when talking with Jim

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<v Speaker 2>and Rick on the post game as a grown man game.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. And he's a finisher for you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't he.

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<v Speaker 4>He really has been.

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<v Speaker 8>And so proud of LJ because the real truth is

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<v Speaker 8>that he hasn't been that his whole career. Right, We've

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<v Speaker 8>seen flashes, but we haven't seen this kind of consistency

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<v Speaker 8>or just some games flat out dominance from him.

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<v Speaker 4>And just so proud of the growth.

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<v Speaker 8>He's made and the commitment that he's made to playing

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<v Speaker 8>so aggressively and really impacting winning with his presence on

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<v Speaker 8>the interior.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, I think.

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<v Speaker 8>A big part of our offensive success is because he's

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<v Speaker 8>playing the five for us. But this is a guy

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<v Speaker 8>that can pop out on the floor and handle the

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<v Speaker 8>ball and make reads and make the right passes and

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<v Speaker 8>knock down some shots as well.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Saturday when you had five guys score at

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<v Speaker 2>least twelve points and record a steal that never been

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<v Speaker 2>done in your Division one era, and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>alluded to it. It's not a one man show. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've got four guys averaging between thirteen and eighteen points.

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<v Speaker 2>There's contributions coming from all different directions.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we've been really balanced Lance, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 8>know we were talking about as a staff today, we've

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<v Speaker 8>got four guys that if they got twenty points up

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<v Speaker 8>given night, wouldn't wouldn't really be that big a deal, right,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, So when you go into game with that

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<v Speaker 8>and then maybe maybe a fifth and Taitoser who's been outstanding,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, when you go to a game with that,

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<v Speaker 8>I do think it's been harder for teams to focus

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<v Speaker 8>on one guy. You know, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>that in the past where we're actually very interested for

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<v Speaker 8>the game to mo on some other games, important league play,

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<v Speaker 8>where teams really try to focus on taking out a

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<v Speaker 8>Marquis Warwick or a Trey Robinson or and Sam Vincent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's much harder to do with this team because

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<v Speaker 4>of the balance that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed you had forty four in the paint against

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<v Speaker 2>Bellerman's Saturday, you had forty in the paint against Cleveland State.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading your former player, David Wassler covers you

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<v Speaker 2>guys for North's Illustrated, and he referred to it as

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<v Speaker 2>a paint first mindset. You guys can pound that area,

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<v Speaker 2>can't you.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, we're trying to write, you know, we want to

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<v Speaker 8>do that in transition on post speeds and then and

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<v Speaker 8>then even inside out on our threes. And one of

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 8>the things that's leading to is is better offensive rebounding

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 8>as well, so a lot of times it's up on

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<v Speaker 8>paint points putbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, you're eleven games in. Through those eleven, have you

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<v Speaker 2>gotten a I would assume a better feel of of

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<v Speaker 2>combos and subs and and getting guys on the court

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<v Speaker 2>who give you what you need in that moment.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I think we're getting there, and we're getting

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<v Speaker 8>there a little student maybe than we have in years past.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, still learning some stuff in terms of you know,

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<v Speaker 8>where strengths and weaknesses are with certain combinations in the game.

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<v Speaker 8>But the biggest thing is we've had pretty good consistency

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<v Speaker 8>from individuals. You know, I think Donovan Rackett to Nahari

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<v Speaker 8>who we just called Donny r because his last name

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 8>is so hard to pronounce. You know, it's been a

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<v Speaker 8>good example of that. He's a guy that's come in.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's shooting like eighty percent from the field

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<v Speaker 8>because he's happy to just run the floor and finish

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 8>drop offs and get offensive rebound put back. And he's

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<v Speaker 8>really impacted winning for us, you know, in a seventh

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 8>to eighth manon roll and so I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>all of those things are starting to add up when

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<v Speaker 8>we're getting a good feel for rotations and then putting

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<v Speaker 8>God in the best possible situations for them to be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>You get Oakland tomorrow night at home for the showdown.

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<v Speaker 2>They're led by their wily veteran and Greg Camp, who's

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<v Speaker 2>in is what forty second year. They're averaging eighty four

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 2>a game. They dropped ninety eight on Toledo one hundred

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and one and Purdue fort Wayne ninety five on Montana.

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<v Speaker 3>They put points on the board as.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, over his career that's been can't steal right,

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 8>like their teams are going to score for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>In the last few years, he's gone to a zone

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<v Speaker 4>of his own that has has.

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<v Speaker 8>Made them better defensively and more focused on pounding the

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<v Speaker 8>ball inside. But this team is playing extremely fast. He

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<v Speaker 8>got a couple of really dynamic guards, and they still

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<v Speaker 8>have good size and physicality on the interior. So really

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<v Speaker 8>going to be the challenge for us to not only

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<v Speaker 8>slow them down, but to handle their their size and

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<v Speaker 8>the physicality around the basket.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed this earlier today. I don't want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>it out. It's it's not x's and o's, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>off the court. It's really cool. Your team has partnered

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<v Speaker 2>with Seven Hills Church and your players delivered gifts to

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>local schools today. What a cool way to give back

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<v Speaker 2>to the community.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, our guy have really done a good

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<v Speaker 8>job of that this year that I think this is

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<v Speaker 8>maybe our third project partnering with Seven Hills who's done

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<v Speaker 8>such a phenomenal job.

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<v Speaker 4>Of serving the community.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 8>And to be able to give back the kids and

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<v Speaker 8>help them have a good Christmas with a couple of

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 8>elementary schools this morning. It's it's, you know, something that's

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 8>important to us. You know, the Northern Kentucky community means

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 8>so much to us and is really the reason we

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 8>have a program and and and why our guys want

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 8>to be a part of it is because the Norse

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 8>nation and to be able to give back in our

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 8>area means a lot. And quite honestly, Lance and in

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 8>today's college basketball world, where you know, these guys are

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 8>still in full scholarship and don't how many expenses but

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 8>getting checks every month, and you know, a good reminder

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 8>for them to uh have an appreciation for how great

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 8>thankful they are to uh be playing college basketball at

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 8>a winning program and getting paid and h be reminded,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 8>especially in this time of the year, the holiday season,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 8>right how important it is to think others can get back.

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Well said absolutely. I hesitate to look ahead. I know

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to do that. But Sunday, another home game.

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>You get Chris Mack in College of Charleston. We talked

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>about and it's a noon tip. We talked about this

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>back in the preseason. But remind me, how did that

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>game come about? Did you you match up with Chris

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Mack and Charleston?

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 8>You know, it was a game that neither one of

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 8>us wanted to play. We were desperate to finish our schedules.

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 8>I don't think either one really wanted to play a

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 8>program of our qualities. But I think Chris got talked

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.360
<v Speaker 8>into it because you thought, well, at least the next

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 8>year when I come home, I could just stay home

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 8>for Christmas, right, So, uh, you know, we put the

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 8>game right before Christmas, and you know, if I could

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 8>ran for a second, Lance, Yeah, you know when you

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 8>talk about attendance, you know, you always hear things like, well,

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 8>you're not fun to watch, and we're averaging eighty five

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 8>points a game, and well if we were just winning, coach,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 8>and you know, we're nine in three and you know,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 8>possession away from being ten and two, and well, you know,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 8>it's just your schedule is better.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 4>And you know this week we've got you.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 8>Know, one of the other premiere program in our league

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 8>coming in and I think one of the premiere mid

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 8>majors in all of college basketball. When you talk about

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 8>success over the last twenty years and the resources and

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 8>what they put into it and then IL and all

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 8>those things, I mean, Charleston is really the kind of

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 8>program that all of us are striving to be. And

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 8>so we've checked all the boxes, and man, we need

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 8>truus a Reno as full as possible for both of

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 8>those games to really help our guys and what's going

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 8>to be two really good basketball games.

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>To watch tomorrow night Oakland Sunday College at Charleston. Tickets

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<v Speaker 2>Nkunorse dot com. It is always great here in your voice.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Always enjoy our conversations. You know you're welcome anytime, and

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>best of luck tomorrow night.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for mean Lance, appreciate it.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Coach, there you go, Darren Horne, head coach of

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the Norse.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 3>The norsing up.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>They're red hot, nine and three, one in one in

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>late play seven and oh at home and would like

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the home crowd tomorrow night as they

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>try to get to eight and oh at home in

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a showdown versus Oakland averaging eighty nearly eighty six points

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>a game at Oakland averaging eighty four points a game.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Holy cal wonder what the over under total on that

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 2>game is. Later on, after the eight o'clock news, we'll

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>talk with Richard Patino in advance of the Musketeers opening

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Big East play tomorrow night. But more coming up next

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.000
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0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.800
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0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>oh five, for the moment, we celebrate the four newest

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>members of the Reds Hall of Fame, Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Reggie Sanders and Lou Panela. And from more on that,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>we head back to the phones. Jeff, Welcome to Sports Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>What's on your mind?

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 9>Well, good evening, good evening. I'm usually content to just listen,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 9>but I felt i'd call him this time. You brought

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 9>up the thing about Aaron Harang in that San Diego game,

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 9>and I had occasion to actually speak with him at

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 9>Redsfest and probably twenty nineteen, and I said, you know,

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 9>I just have to tell you that I always felt

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 9>kind of sorry for you because, you know, your career

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 9>kind of trended downward from that game onward. And he

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 9>told me, you said it was really everybody blames that

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 9>on Dusty. He said it was really on him because

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 9>he said he could do it. You know, he pitched

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 9>six innings in that game and then came back probably

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 9>too soon afterwards, and that that could very well, you know,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 9>be why you know, things happened as they subsequently did.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 9>So I thought that was interesting. I haven't heard that

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 9>from any other source other than him, right, I don't

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 9>know that. I couldn't believe it.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great insight, and that's kind of a look

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>at who and what he was as a pitcher. He

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>was always willing to take the ball. He had made

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 2>thirty starts a year, two hundred innings because he wanted

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to pitch, and when his team needed him on that

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 2>day and things got very desperate for pitching.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 9>On that I don't think there was anybody else even

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 9>available on the bullten at that point. It was. It

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 9>was almost good that Adrian Gonzalez hit that home run

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 9>and ended the game.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, that's a great point.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I mean, I told I thought kind of

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 9>bad for him, and he said, well, you know, it's

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 9>really on him.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>On Dusty, that's great insight. Thank you for calling tonight. Okay,

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>thank you, all right, joy your evening.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I like the additional information. I just pulled up my

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>notes on that game.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Made the twenty fifth, two thousand and eight eighteen innings

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Padres win twelve to eight. The Cyclones lost to the

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas Wranglers won nothing in the Kelly Cup playoffs.

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I was listening to the game from US Bank Arena

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 2>at the time almost six hours. Red's used ten pitchers,

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 2>three starting pitchers. The teams combined to throw five hundred

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and eighty one pitches that day, three hundred and two

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>by the Reds, two hundred and seventy nine by the Padres.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Gonzalezes, the caller reference, hit the home run off

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Edinson Volcz at the bottom of the eighteenth. Over the

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>first twelve innings, Dusty used Matt Bellile for four and

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>a third and then he used seven relievers, and having

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>run out of pitchers, he turned to Harangu in the thirteenth.

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>He'd pitched two pitching two days after his previous start,

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Aaron went four innings, allowed no runs, struck out nine

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>through sixty three pitches, and then three days later made

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>his regular start against the Padres. Also in that game,

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Corey Patterson went oh for eight edwin and Carnassi owned

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>two for nine. Ken Griffey Junior and Brandon had two hits.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Joey Vado double switched into the game in the ninth inning,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>started the game on the bench day of rest, came

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>off the bench in the ninth, wound up with three hits,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and Adam Dunn hit his thirteenth home run of the

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>year in that game versus Greg Maddox. Bronson, who had

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>beat the Pidres the previous night, had a pinch hit

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>single with two outs in the thirteenth and Paul Baco,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 2>the last Reds position player, pinch hit for Harangu and

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>struck out with the bases loaded to end the top

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>of the seventeenth. On the day, the Padres struck out

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>nineteen times and Tony Clark, who is currently the executive

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>director of the Baseball Players Association, pinch hit in that game.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>It all happened in the uh the Aaron Harangu game.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>The Reds and Padres back in two thousand and eight,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 2>back out to the phones and into the Reds conversation.

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Heck yeah in Tennessee. Hey Jeff, welcome to sports talk.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 7>Hey Ansa, thanks much for taking Mikyle. I like you,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 7>but at ease my mind o something.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 10>Do you see the Reds making a major moved?

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 9>I do not.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>They'll make some moves, but they won't be major moves.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 9>There.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>They took their shot with Kyle Schwarber, but that will

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>be their their big attempt at a move. The rest

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>will be filling in and managing the payroll to piece

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>this together.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 4>You don't thank you? What about Marcelo was in? Would

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 4>they bring in somebody like that?

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I would hope they could bring in somebody better than him.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his numbers really dropped off last year. He's older,

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>he'd be down my pecking order of possibilities.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, I heard him.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 7>I heard him talking about at the Catalanos. Uh one

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 7>way or another, they said that that he would uh

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 7>be released, you know, uh.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Red would take a change on trying to resign him.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's interesting.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna make a lot of money this year and

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and he's fallen out of favor in Philadelphia, and Uh,

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it may be trade, it may be release.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Uh, he's thirty three.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>He's got a little bit of pop still in him.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>He liked it when he was here. They liked him.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just he he really can't play the field anymore.

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I just I just wish the Reds were in position

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to add better talent than the Nick Costianos. But ultimately

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>they may have to settle for somebody like Costianos.

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 7>Well, I do tell you I've been following them, you know,

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 7>for sixty nine years. I sure have been full for

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 7>sixty nine years. And I've been with you know when

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 7>when the when they've been down, you know, been with them,

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 7>you know when uh when they one of those two

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 7>uh world series.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not giving up. I'm I'm not giving up

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 4>on them.

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 7>You know, my dad, when you set out, you sit

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 7>out on ports on uh and and listen to you

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 7>know where they sent out in La. You know, the

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 7>game didn't start to Tednacop. But we set out, we

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 7>set our reports in the summertime and and.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 4>And listen to them. Uh.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 7>Uh the game go off that one on one thirty,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 7>we'd say, right after all reports and listen to them.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Sure would, But I'm.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 7>Just I'm just wondering, though, if you see him said

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 7>making a major movie, you don't think that will.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll. They'll make some They have to make

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>some moves. They just won't be uh big time moves.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>It won't be the moves that uh, I think everybody wants.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>But they got to fill out the roster and need

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to upgrade in some ways. So Jeff hanging there, and

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you calling as always.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, bro, thank you, all right, let them back.

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I mean, remember, unless they trade a starting pitcher,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>they've only got five to ten million dollars to play

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 2>with in that range. Now, having said that, watch they

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>may turn around and trade Brady Singer and free up

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>some money. But if you're expecting big big, they to

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever extent they called their shot with Kyle Schorber, that

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 2>was big, They're not doing anything close to that with

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 2>anybody else. They're just not going to you know, I'm

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>looking at Reggie Sanders here. Reggie Sanders in that ninety

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>five season for the Reds thirty six doubles, twenty eight homers,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine ribies, and thirty six steals. He was an

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>All Star. He hit three to oh seven. His on

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>base percentage was almost four hundred that year. He finished

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>sixth in the MVP voting. He had years with the

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Reds where heck, you go two years earlier. We're talking

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five year old Reggie Sanders. He hit twenty homers,

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>drove in eighty three, and stole twenty seven. He had

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>a season with seventeen homers nineteen homers, played with eight

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>different teams in his career and wound up with three

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and five homers and three hundred and four It

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>was three hundred and four stolen bases when it was

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 2>all said and done. Seventh round draft pick, originally by

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the Reds, and finished fourth in Rookie of the Year

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>when he came up in first came up in ninety one,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>got in a couple of games, then in ninety two

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 2>his first full season, played one hundred and sixteen games.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>But talk about a combination of speed and power and

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 2>had an arm and right field and yeah, I know,

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it's tough to not think of Regie Sanders and not

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>think of nineteen ninety five postseason Braves and Dodgers. He went,

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, four for twenty eight with nineteen strikeouts somewhere

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in that neighborhood. I don't think I have the stomach

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.439
<v Speaker 2>to look up the numbers, but he was so much

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>more than that. Well here it is four for twenty

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>nine with nineteen strikeouts in the ninety five postseason against

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers and then the Braves. But man, there was

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>so much more to Regis centers, and that's why I

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>am so happy tonight he has been recognized as a

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Reds Hall of Famer. Up next, we'll recognize the Musketeers.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that for a segue? Richard Patino ahead and more

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of your calls. RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's keep it moving. Eight o'clock hour underway,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>eight oh six to be precise. A Lance McAllister, thanks

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>for hanging out checking in tonight. We've talks of breads.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk some Xavier Musketeers. Savier takes a five game

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>winning streak into their big East opener tomorrow night, Sentaz

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Center the place to be for hoops. They take on

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Creighton six point thirty with the tip from around that,

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>let's go straight to the sores. Welcome in the head

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>coach Xavier Musketeers. That would be Richard Patino coach. How

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 2>are we doing tonight?

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 10>Doing great? Thanks for having me Lace, you.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Got to good catch it up. So you guys finish

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 2>the non conference eight and three. I know you're still

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>a work in progress, but man, that pivot and change

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 2>that you guys you made with this group on the

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>fly in the Charleston Classic, it's got to be pretty

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 2>satisfying and encouraging.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 11>I think it kind of you know, obviously had kind

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 11>of a soberinging loss for Santa Clara at home, didn't

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 11>play well. They're a good team, but we played very

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 11>poorly and we had to kind of recalibrate everything. And

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 11>we came back played really really well.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 10>Versus I think it was Old Dominion at home, and then.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 11>We went to Iowa and actually played well those four

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 11>we lost. There was some moments there was like, okay,

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 11>we may have something here. Came back played really well

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 11>Versul Tomion. But I thought Charleston really really kind of

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 11>energized us. Georgie is a very talented team. We really

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 11>had the game one, they may a tough shot right

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 11>at the end and then played great for West Virginia.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 10>And it's just been the momentum has been.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 11>Really good, and it's just it's really attitude and effort.

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 11>You know, we've got high character guys in the locker room.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 11>They're working really hard in practice, and it's it's cool

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 11>to see just kind of the confidence building.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I've noticed that.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I've heard your guys talk about being connected on the

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.919
<v Speaker 2>court off the court. When you're dealing with all new

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>guys from all parts of the country, that's not easy.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>That's not always the case.

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<v Speaker 11>No, And you know, it really starts with just the

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 11>type of people that you you know, it's hard to

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 11>even call it recruiting anymore, right, but I mean the

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 11>people that you bring in in a really cool moment.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 11>Last night, I had my radio show, but one of

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 11>our walk ons, Henry, had his jersey retired, and we

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 11>brought it up and just said, hey, if you could

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 11>make it, that would be great. And we had two

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 11>guys that had a previous engagement that everybody else went

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 11>to it. And it just shows you like they're a

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 11>very very tight knit group. You know, it's not always

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 11>the most important thing off the court.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 10>Sometimes that can.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 11>Be a little bit overrated, but you certainly can feel

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 11>it with these guys. There's a respect level. You know,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 11>the UC game, it's a lot for both teams. But

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 11>what it does do is it kind of brings you together.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 11>Because that was kind of like the first moment where

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 11>you're you're fighting for xavior.

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 3>So it was cool to see your team.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>A couple of numbers that pop off the page that

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>have to make you very happy. Your your team share

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>rate and protect rate is off the charts. I mean,

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys share the ball, and man, they value the

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>possession of the ball, don't they.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:39.439
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 11>I don't know if it changed, but this morning we

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 11>were number one in the country and it's just a

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 11>turnable percentage on Ken Palm. So where are the one

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 11>or two in all those categories?

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Which is great.

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 10>I mean people kind of ask me. I've had some

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 10>coaches reach out like, oh, what what are you doing?

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 11>And I'm like, honestly, I'm playing guys who are fundamentally

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 11>sound like I mean, we do some passing girls, we

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 11>do some you know, footwork, drill and.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 10>Everything like that, but it really is.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 11>It's contagious right now, you know our practices sometimes we overpass,

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 11>but they're all kind of trying to one up each

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 11>other with sharing the ball.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 10>The assist now some of it.

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 11>As you shoot a lot of jump shots, you're going

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 11>to get assisted baskets. But I just think when you're

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 11>playing like you play a team like you see you

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 11>have four turnovers. We come back the next game versus

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 11>Missouri State, who's really really.

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 10>Physical defense, you only have six.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 11>I mean for us, I mean we're not necessarily the

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 11>most athletic team, but if we can just value the

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 11>ball like this, it's going to give us a chance.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>You open Big East play tomorrow night at home against Creighton.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 2>What are your impressions of the Blue Jays.

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 10>You know, it's interesting.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 11>I mean, they've always been kind of a consistent player

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 11>in this league, and they've got to believe, five returners

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 11>from last year's team. Coach McDermott does a terrific job.

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 11>They just haven't really made shots. I mean, I hope

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 11>to god they don't make shots tomorrow. But it's always

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 11>scary because they're continuing to move. The ball they're facing

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 11>is great. They play with pace offensively on a make

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 11>or a miss, So the shots are there. They just

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 11>haven't been falling. You know, they've played a tough schedule

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 11>in Nebraska is really difficult Kansas State. The first half

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 11>they didn't play well, but certainly played great in.

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 10>The second half.

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 11>So we know with our team, like every game that

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 11>we play, we're going to have our hands full, especially in.

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 10>This twenty game Big East.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 11>So you got to guard the three point line, you

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 11>got to get back in transition and communicate because they're

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 11>going to fly the ball to the court.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>You get them at sentas tomorrow night. What have you

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>learned about this fan base and how important is it

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 2>for that shootout vibe not to be a one off?

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, the shootout is interesting because you know, as an outsider,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 11>you know, I'm a non Zavier guy, and you know,

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 11>I'm still trying to earn my stripes with all the fans,

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 11>and you know, they kind of and the fans kind

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 11>of trick you a little bit because they're like, do

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 11>you take this game seriously or not? And I'm like, listen,

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 11>as a coach, were one game at a time, this

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 11>and that. But you know, really what it is is

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 11>the fans and the media really really take it seriously

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 11>because of the bragging rights and all that. It's really

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 11>really cool and fun to be a part of. But

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 11>I've gotten asked that question, and I just said, you know,

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 11>you know, I understand a bye game in December.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 10>It is not always going to be like that.

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 11>But you know, I was very lucky for the last

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 11>four years to coach in an iconic building in front

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 11>of a terrific fan base in New Mexico with fifteen

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 11>thousand fans. And I tell you what if we bring

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 11>it like we did in the Crosstown shootout for these

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 11>ten home games in the league, like we're going to

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 11>be a tough out, you know, it's it's a really

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 11>cool fan base because I've never worked at a small

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 11>kind of Catholic school like this with no football. I

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 11>went to a school like this, but I've never professionally

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 11>done that. And they're they're not necessarily a large number,

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 11>but there's strength kind of in the numbers that they have,

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 11>and they're really really passionate, and they've been very welcome

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 11>to me and my family.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>All Right, my most important question to you, can you

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>confirm a family sledding activity that may have led to injury,

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 2>if not at least general soreness on your part.

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 11>General shortness would be accurate, for sure. I was standing

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 11>in my office today because.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 10>My back was hurty.

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 11>You know, We've got a pretty cool hill in front

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 11>of our house.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 10>And my cute nine year.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 11>Old daughter put like her snowpants on, her boots on,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 11>and my other two kids were not there, and she

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 11>was like, well, I guess I'm gonna go sledging by myself.

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 11>And I'm like, all right, I got to go with you.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 11>You know, when you live in Minnesota, it was so

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 11>cold like the Bengals game the other day. That was

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 11>like every day in Minnesota for like three months, so

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 11>it was like thirty degrees out. We had a blast,

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 11>but I took a little spill. My wife didn't catch it,

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 11>but I did actually run into it free as well.

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 11>But I think I'm a game time decision tomorrow. But

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 11>I feel good that I'm gonna be able to coach,

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 11>oh man, that that is good news.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 2>We'll take care of yourself, and I always appreciate your time.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 3>In best of luck tomorrow night.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 10>All right, thank you, mans, appreciate it all right, all right.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Take care coach.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Richard Patino, check it in tonight. He

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>hit a tree. What I can see his nine. You're like,

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>who's gonna say no to there? I guess I'll go

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 2>sledding by myself. I mean I remember that, whether it

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 2>was Peyton or Casey is like, oh, but I thought

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>general soortness might be the way he would go with

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the description. Standing in the office this morning, you said,

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 2>feeling it. Musketeers tomorrow night, five game winning streak heading

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>into Big East play with the opener against Creighton six

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 2>point thirty from Senta center. All right, let's do this.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's keep the lines open. I want to welcome

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>your conversation. I've got oh when we come back. I

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>came across a story over the weekend of a finish

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in a high school football state championship game that you

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 2>will absolutely not believe, and I think it might lead

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>into maybe a little bit of a conversation about the

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>wild and wacky finishes in sports history over the years

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 2>that you could maybe add to as well. Let's try

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 2>that at a little bit plus some more Red's Hall

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 2>of Fame conversation as we continue. The show is RNL

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.520
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0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.719
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0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:32.080
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0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:52.120
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0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>by the way, really enjoyed the conversation with Darren Horn

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of The Nurse and Richard Patino of The Musketeers. Tennessee

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty in the country, leading Louisville number eleven in the country,

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 2>seventeen minutes to go in the game, forty thirty one,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Louisville playing without talented freshman Mike kel Brown dealing with

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a back issue.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 3>That's not good news. Cards trail by nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Also on the docket, about eleven minutes to go in

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>the game. Ohio all over Ohio, Wesleyan sixty six thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, Miami fifteen minutes away from moving to

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>eleven and zero on the season. Travis Steele in the

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 2>RedHawks winning at ball State right now sixty or right State,

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Wright State sixty two forty five sixty two

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 2>forty five, RedHawks fifteen twenty six to go in the

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>game and drew Western Heide's Daton Flyers leading at halftime

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>against Florida State forty two thirty one. Couple of notes

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<v Speaker 2>from Reds and Bengals World today. The Bengals claiming wide

0:48:55.680 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>receiver Keishawn Williams off waivers from the Steelers. He returns kicks,

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 2>punts and kickoffs. Charlie Jones dealing with an ankle issue

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 2>for the Bengals. Steelers wave Keyshawn Williams yesterday. He had

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 2>appeared in eight games. Also the other news of the day,

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Paul Dayner Junior of The Athletic reports that Zach Taylor

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.439
<v Speaker 2>actually has two more years left on his contract after

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>this year, not one as previously believed. He quietly got

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 2>an extension after the twenty twenty two AFC Championship Game

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>loss and the Reds acquiring twenty nine year old left

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 2>handed reliever Caleb Ferguson is free agent one year deal

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.240
<v Speaker 2>terms not disclosed, at least that I've seen He pitched

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 2>in seventy games last season for the Pirates and Mariners

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.240
<v Speaker 2>combined era of three point five eight, again a lefty

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 2>veteran lefty, and gave up just two home runs in

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty five and a third innings. Four Hall of Fame

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>members announced today in new editions for the Reds, Brandon Phillips,

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Harang, Reggie Sanders, and Lou Panella. One hundred days

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>to Reds Opening Day. A A couple of things that

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>caught my eye over the weekend, and I don't know

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>if it's topic worthy. What we'll find out see if

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I can maybe jar your memory and gather some contributions here.

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Both happen in high school football games. First one from

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>listener Neil Eisner. Shout out to Neil, loyal listener, follower

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 2>of the show. Much appreciated. He sent me this one

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night, Louisiana Division two state championship game in football

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Saint Charles and Shaw. If you haven't seen the video,

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<v Speaker 2>seek it out excuse me online. I'll try to simplify

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>what took place. There's thirty five seconds left in the game.

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Shaw has the ball and they are leading by one.

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>They have the ball they're leading by one thirty five

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 2>seconds left. They just have to take knees to kneel

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 2>out the game and win well. After first down, an

0:50:55.160 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen celebrated by taking off his helmet and tossing

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 2>it into the air. That results in a flag unsportsmanlike conduct.

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>It stops the clock, so Saint Charles didn't have to

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 2>burn a timeout. So then Shaw takes a knee on

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>second down, Saint Charles calls timeout. Shaw takes a knee

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 2>on third down. Saint Charles uses their remaining timeout, so

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>they force a punt. Saint Charles blocked the punt and

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>recovered it at the Shaw thirty two yard line with

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty seconds left. They threw a quick pass ten seconds

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:45.720
<v Speaker 2>left down to the twenty seven. They kick a game

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 2>winning field goal, and the kicker who kicked the game

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 2>winning field goal had missed the point after with about

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>a minute left in the game that would have tied it,

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and he gets a shot at redemption hits a forty

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>four yarder to win it. After they get the break

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>of a helmet being tossed in the air in celebration.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh can you imagine, I'll give you one more State

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>championship game Saturday night, Florida Class seven a Vero Beach

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 2>led Lake Mary by eight in the final minute driving rain.

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>They're up eight, they had the ball. They chose to

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 2>run backwards and kneel down on three straight plays on

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 2>fourth and thirty one rather than punt and risk it

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>being blocked in the driving rain. They ran to the

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 2>back of the end zone and took a safety. So

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>their lead is down to six with twelve seconds left

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and they're kicking off. Instead of kicking it deep, they

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 2>do a squib kick. Lake Mary recovered it. They have

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>time for one play. It's a forty three yard hail

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Mary in a driving rain that's deflected near the goal

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 2>line into the hands of their wide receiver who's a

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 2>yard short of the goal line, who is wrapped up,

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 2>but as he spins around, he flips the ball to

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a teammate who fights off a tackler and falls into

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:35.720
<v Speaker 2>the end zone.

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Pat follows and they win the game.

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Un be believable. Two state championships this weekend, which got

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 2>me thinking and led to this and maybe maybe for

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a segment and all open the lines at five point three,

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 2>seven four nine hundred, the big one give me a

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>a wild or crazy finish in sports along those lines,

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>not a comeback or an upset or a winning shot,

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 2>as much as something bizarre involved something maybe with a twist,

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 2>in this case, a helmet being thrown off. I would

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 2>give you. I would give you the band is on

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the field as my ultimate number one that came up

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>at lunch today more than anything else. Nineteen eighty two, Cal, Stanford.

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It was John Elway's final game for the Stanford Cardinal

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and Cal receiving the kickoff and the Stanford fans believe

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:40.919
<v Speaker 2>the game was over, the Stanford had won. They store

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 2>them out of the field. The band is on the field,

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the classic call.

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:44.280
<v Speaker 3>The band is on the field.

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 2>The cow kick returner navigates his way down up the

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 2>field through the band, runs over the trombone player and

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.959
<v Speaker 2>into the end zone in total chaos. To win the game,

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I would give you the twenty thirteen Iron Bowl kick

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 2>six number one on Alabama number four Auburn. Alabama lined

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.919
<v Speaker 2>up to try potential fifty seven yard field goal, game

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 2>winning fifty seven yard field goal. The kick is up

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and the kick is short, but Auburn's Chris Davis had

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 2>been positioned near the goal line and he caught the

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 2>ball on the way down in front of the goalpost,

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.399
<v Speaker 2>and the ball's in play, you can return it. He

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:29.520
<v Speaker 2>runs the entire field through the players, both teams opposite

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 2>end zone, touchdown. Auburn wins the twenty thirteen Iron Bowl

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>with a kick six. I would give you nineteen seventy

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:48.879
<v Speaker 2>two the Immaculate Reception AFC Divisional Playoffs. Steelers Raiders Terry

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Bradshaw throws a pass that gets deflected.

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 3>The ball is deflected.

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 2>In the air and is caught by Franco Harris off

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>his shoe tops on the road and goes the distance

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>for the most famous, most controversial play maybe in NFL history,

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of whether who had touched it first on the deflection.

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of who laid out the Steeler

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 2>and who the receiver, the intended receiver was, and I'm

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>want it was it may have been Jack Tatum who

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:21.800
<v Speaker 2>delivered the hit, and whether it hit a Steeler first

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 2>or Tatum made contact with it first. And in slow

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 2>motion you see Frank O'harris off his shoe tops and

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 2>run the final whatever thirty to forty two yards, almost

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 2>get caught, almost go.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Out of bounds it into the end zone for the

0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 3>game winner.

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I would give you a Bengal play for this, and

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 2>this would be related to the high school football game.

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 3>This would have been.

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 2>What year eighty, mid eighties, late late eighties. This was

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Bengals with the ball against the forty nine Ers and

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Sam Wish instead of having the Bengal punt the ball

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:03.839
<v Speaker 2>or take a safety, trying to run out the clock

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 2>against the forty nine Ers at Riverfront. He runs a

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 2>fourth down play from their own territory and Boomer throws

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a pitch to James Brooks and James Brooks can't run

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 2>out the clock. There's like five seconds left on the play.

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>He gets tackled. Forty nine Ers takeover on possession change

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Montana comes on the field with one play

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>throws to Jerry Rice, touchdown. Forty nine Ers stun the

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Bengals at Riverfront Stadium. That would be a few that

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 2>came up during our lunch conversation today, But I thought

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>about that based on Neil passing along the Louisiana State

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Championship game and the Florida State Championship game. If you

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 2>have one that of the somewhat bizarre wild or crazy

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 2>finish some time on that plus of Bengals, not or

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 2>two around the corner. Let's check news. I'm doing relatively

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So the lunch conversation was spurned on by

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 2>a listener and Neil who had passed along the story

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and wait and then in watching the video, I'm like,

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine the look of the coaches on

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the sidelines of just how insane the state championship game

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 2>turned out in Louisiana when one team receives a penalty

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 2>because when taking a knee in the final few seconds,

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the offensive lineman takes off his helmet and throws it

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 2>up in the air in celebration. He thinks the clock

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 2>is going to run out. It's a penalty. The clock stops.

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 2>It allows the other team to then keep a time

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 2>out and call it on the next two plays, then

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 2>forcing a punt, and they blocked the punt. They recover

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it and kick a game winning field goal to flat

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 2>out steal the high school state championship in Louisiana in

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Division two. And that led to conversation about some of

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the crazy the bizarre finishes through the years in.

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Sports, and I've tossed it out to you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's head back to the phones, Hey, Richard, give me

0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a crazy finish?

0:59:59.520 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yea.

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<v Speaker 12>This one's from Thanksgiving Day of nineteen ninety three in

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<v Speaker 12>the NFL game between the Dolphins and the Cowboys, and

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 12>this game was coming down to the wire. I think

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<v Speaker 12>Dallas was up by one or two points, so Miami

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<v Speaker 12>came down the field at the end of the game

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<v Speaker 12>and they were setting up for a game winning field goal,

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 12>and they they and they set it up. Stuyanovitch kicks it,

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<v Speaker 12>it's blocked by Dallas and.

1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 6>Then the ball's rolling around on the ground.

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<v Speaker 13>For some reason, the Cowboys defensive tackle Leon Lett decides

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:38.000
<v Speaker 13>to he's going to recover this ball, and it sports

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 13>away from him and Miami recovers it, and all Dallas.

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Had to do is just to let the ball go.

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:44.800
<v Speaker 4>The game ends.

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<v Speaker 6>So Miami sets back up for a game winning field goal,

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 6>makes it wins the game, and then Dallas loses.

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<v Speaker 3>Such an unbelievable scene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's snowing, the snow everywhere in Leon left is sliding

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 2>through the snow trying to grab the ball and it

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<v Speaker 2>squirts loose and total chaos.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>What I remember, I think Bob Trump, he was a

1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:12.240
<v Speaker 6>color guy on that game, and I just remember I

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 6>remember him going leon Let, no, no, because the previous

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:20.960
<v Speaker 6>year in the Super Bowl, Leon Lett there was a

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.360
<v Speaker 6>blow they were blowing out Buffalo and he's running down

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<v Speaker 6>the field with the ball for the end zone for

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<v Speaker 6>a touchdown and then he holds it out and then

1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:31.160
<v Speaker 6>don Beebe strips it before he crosses the goal line.

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<v Speaker 6>But two yards of the goal lines. And that's why

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<v Speaker 6>Trumpy was going, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a classic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's great, hey, Richard, thanks for listening, Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a great night. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>All right you as well. The other ones, uh, let

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<v Speaker 2>me round this out. The other ones we came up

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<v Speaker 2>with at lunch seventy two Olympics basketball versus the Soviets,

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<v Speaker 2>final three seconds of the gold medal game replayed three

1:01:57.160 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>different times due to quote official errors. On the final attempt,

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the Soviets completed a full court pass and a game

1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:09.960
<v Speaker 2>winning layup to win fifty one fifty to beat the

1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 2>previously undefeated USA team. They won silver and many, in fact,

1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it maybe the entire team. They did not accept their

1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.480
<v Speaker 2>medals in protest, we're not taking the silver medals. We

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:27.760
<v Speaker 2>got jobbed by the officials three times. Three times they

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<v Speaker 2>reset it like oh no, no, no. And obviously the first

1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of times the Soviets had failed on those plays

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<v Speaker 2>to score, and then on the third time they actually scored.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go two thousand. Music City Miracle, the lateral,

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans beat the Bills. Titans trailed sixteen to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Lorenzo O'Neil. One time, Bengal caught the kickoff, handed it

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<v Speaker 2>to the tight end Frank Whitchek for the Titans, and

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<v Speaker 2>he throws a crossfield lateral directly parallel to Kevin Dyce

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<v Speaker 2>and the receiver, who then has a voy in front

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<v Speaker 2>of him, goes the distance and wins the game. I

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<v Speaker 2>would go. Nineteen eighty three NCAA Basketball National Championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>NC State beats Houston at the Buzzer. Derek Wittenberg, with

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<v Speaker 2>the clock ticking down, has the ball knocked away. They're trailing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's knocked away. He grabs it and his time is

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<v Speaker 2>about to expire. He turns and he heaves one up

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<v Speaker 2>from forty feet and it short, but Lorenzo Charles big

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<v Speaker 2>Man from North Carolina State leaps in the air and

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<v Speaker 2>catches the ball on the way down and dunks it

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<v Speaker 2>on the way down to win the game at the Buzzer.

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<v Speaker 2>I would add the miracle at the Meadowlands nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>The Giants were about to beat the Eagles in the Meadowlands.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Pisarcik is the quarterback, Larry Zonka is the running back.

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<v Speaker 2>Piserchik turns the hand off to Larry Zonka. Instead of

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<v Speaker 2>taking a knee, he hands the Larry zonk Well, they

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<v Speaker 2>fumble the exchange. Herm Edwards. That Herm Edwards now on

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN it was later a coach is an Eagles defensive back.

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<v Speaker 2>He scoops up the ball and goes twenty yards in

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<v Speaker 2>for the touchdown to win the game when the Giants

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<v Speaker 2>needed just a knee to run out the clock. And

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<v Speaker 2>I and one more just because it well, it pained

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<v Speaker 2>us today at lunch to bring this up. It was

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<v Speaker 2>that opener back in what two thousand and five six,

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<v Speaker 2>what year was it? Bengals Broncos Week one? Brandon Stokely

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<v Speaker 2>Gus Johnson on the call, Hail Mary out the midfield deflected,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Stokely gets in your here, gosh, John brand It's

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<v Speaker 2>runs it in and gets parallel to the goal line

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<v Speaker 2>and runs sideways to run a few more seconds off

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<v Speaker 2>the clock. Then goes into the end zone and the

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos beat the Bengals in Week one of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun today at lunch, I still thank you

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<v Speaker 2>Neil for passing along that Louisiana game. Absolutely incredible Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>note today and it's worth the from Paul Dayner Junior

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<v Speaker 2>of the Athletic I don't know how this will sit

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Well, I can imagine, but I'll run through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Dayner Junior has written about the structure the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>organization going forward this year and the status of Duke

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<v Speaker 2>Tobin and Zach Taylor and somebody like Al Golden and

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<v Speaker 2>some insight on what may happen. And Paul writes that

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday went as badly as any single day could go

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<v Speaker 2>for a pro sports organization, and he lays out they

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<v Speaker 2>get eliminated, missed the playoffs for the third straight year.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow shut out for the first time in his career,

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<v Speaker 2>beaten mercilessly and trash talked by a division rival. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow said after the game, we haven't been a good

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<v Speaker 2>football team, and bad teams football teams do losing things.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the backlash and controversy of not clearing the

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<v Speaker 2>seats of the snow and the ice fans wore bags

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<v Speaker 2>over their head.

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<v Speaker 3>There was booing throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 2>As Paul Dayner Junior rights, this was the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>day that can leave an imprint on ownership. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of day that consumers hold over a company's

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<v Speaker 2>head for years. Quite simply, this was a day that

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<v Speaker 2>gets people fired. Paul then goes on to right, in

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<v Speaker 2>most places, Duke Tobin, the de facto general manager, would

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<v Speaker 2>be on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. Tobin is viewed as family. There is zero thought

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<v Speaker 2>that his job is in jeopardy. Paul goes on to write,

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<v Speaker 2>firing Taylor seems unlikely right now, and he points out,

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<v Speaker 2>as I did at the top of the hour, Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>actually has two years left on his contract. Two after

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<v Speaker 2>this year. I think the Bengals are going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to not coach for two years. And Paul writes

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship between Taylor, Burrow and Brown Mike Brown will

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<v Speaker 2>carry weight. Burrow has spoke openly in support of the

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff. Paul writes, beyond that this is Cincinnati, this

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<v Speaker 2>is an ownership group stoutly devoted to patients and a

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<v Speaker 2>belief in the people it hires. He points out there

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps could be a question about Al Golden. Does he

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<v Speaker 2>become the fall guy? But do you really turn over

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<v Speaker 2>another defensive coordinator and bring in a third one in

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<v Speaker 2>as many years? This final paragraph from Paul Daanner Junior

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<v Speaker 2>of the Athletic Today. The Bengals have nearly the entire

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<v Speaker 2>offense signed and returning next year. They rank eighth in

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<v Speaker 2>cap space for next season. Aggressively attacking free agency to

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<v Speaker 2>solidified defensive spots is a potential plan. Bengal fans screaming

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<v Speaker 2>for change should prepare themselves for the fact that, at

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<v Speaker 2>this moment, making no major changes appears the most likely endgame.

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<v Speaker 2>Man Paul Dayer Junior from the Athletic Today. More ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>another Bengals note, and on this date in sports history,

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<v Speaker 2>as we head down the stretch and you as well

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<v Speaker 2>five one, three, seven four, nine, seven thousand, What eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred the big One?

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<v Speaker 3>It's Rnel Carrier.

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chervallet seven hundred WLW down

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<v Speaker 2>the Stretch We go news in about nine minutes, Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Walker. After that developing situation in college football, Jeremiah Love,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame running back arguably best running back in Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame history, has declared well, Jerome Bettis might have something

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<v Speaker 2>among others to say about that, but Jeremiah Love declaring

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<v Speaker 2>for the NFL draft earlier The Sea follow up on

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<v Speaker 2>what Paul Daker Junior wrote about the Bengals and trags

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Petrella from CLNS since with Ay dot Com weighed

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<v Speaker 2>in with a column today, can't wait to talk with

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<v Speaker 2>him about it on Thursday night. He's our weekly Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>Night Roundtable show guest. At six point twenty. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>today about the Bengals the following a couple of paragraphs

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<v Speaker 2>that caught my eye. The Bengals only care about mating,

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining control of their operation. Season ticket holder opinion and

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<v Speaker 2>player sentiment be damned. This is our team and we

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<v Speaker 2>know what's best, he writes. The Bengals have the money

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<v Speaker 2>to invest in a real general manager and a real

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<v Speaker 2>scouting department, they just refuse because they think they know better.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty years of results would suggest otherwise, and he points

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<v Speaker 2>out the change that has taken place around the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>in recent years with the Jaguars and the Colts and

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots and the Broncos. As he writes, they all

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<v Speaker 2>took a close, hard look at the way they do

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<v Speaker 2>business and who was running their football operations and made

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<v Speaker 2>changes over the last several years. And he concluded in

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<v Speaker 2>his piece today, with Burrow and Chase and Higgins locked

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<v Speaker 2>up for multiple years, the future should be incredibly bright

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<v Speaker 2>with the prospects of multiple Super Bowls. Instead, he concludes,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to the stubborn and unrelenting nature of the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing on the horizon is a five category

1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:32.960
<v Speaker 2>tornado that threatens to rip apart super Bowl hopes of

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<v Speaker 2>every Bengals fan That from Trags today, he'll join his

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday at six twenty on the Roundtable Show. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's wrap it up with some Reds Hall of Fame notes,

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<v Speaker 2>and let me give you on this date before I

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<v Speaker 2>run out of time. On this date, nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain begins a streak of seven straight

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<v Speaker 2>games with fifty or more points.

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<v Speaker 3>He's one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>If you gave me a wayback machine and I could

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<v Speaker 2>go back and watch somebody I never had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, I would put Wilt Chamberlain on that list.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have Wil Chamberlain. I'd have Jim Brown, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I was younger when he was playing in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could go back and watch Pete Maravich play

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU, I would have that might be an off

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<v Speaker 2>the beaten Pat topic one night now I think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>This date, nineteen sixty seven, Will Chamberlain scores sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>against the Chicago Bulls nineteen seventy two perfection in the

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<v Speaker 2>regular season. The Dolphins become the first undefeated NFL team

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<v Speaker 2>at fourteen and oh they would run the table and

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<v Speaker 2>win the Super Bowl as well. Nineteen seventy three, On

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<v Speaker 2>this date, Oj Simpson the Juice becomes the first NFL

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<v Speaker 2>player to rush for two thousand yards in a season.

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<v Speaker 2>I have images of that game in my head. It

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<v Speaker 2>was in the snow. He did it against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was at Shayse Stadium. He

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<v Speaker 2>did it running behind The nickname of the Bills offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line was the Electric Company, if I remember correctly, led

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<v Speaker 2>by Reggie McKenzie and Joe Delamoleure. I believe this date,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy six dark day in Cincinnati sports history. The

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<v Speaker 2>Reds trade Tony Perez to the Montreal Expos for Will Mcinanny,

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<v Speaker 2>Woody Friman and Dale Murray. The trade of the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>four year old opened the door for twenty five year

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<v Speaker 2>old first base prospect Dan Dreeson. And you know the

1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:42.000
<v Speaker 2>thing that and Dan It was always gonna be tough

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<v Speaker 2>for Dan because he was the one who had to

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<v Speaker 2>replace Tony Perez. But if you go back and look me,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Dreeson in his first year as their everyday first

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<v Speaker 2>baseman replacing Tony put up Tony Perez like numbers. He

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<v Speaker 2>drove in ninety one in replacing Tony and hit three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and stole thirty one bases.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's one of those things you'd lose a

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<v Speaker 3>bet on that.

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<v Speaker 2>In Dan Dreason's first season as Tony's replacement, Dan had

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<v Speaker 2>had had plenty of games under his belt in the

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<v Speaker 2>previous four years, but when he became Tony Perez's replacement,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one doubles, seventeen homers, ninety one ribis, thirty one steals,

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<v Speaker 2>and a three hundred batting average. But those are numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony was the heart and the soul and the the

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<v Speaker 2>the heart, the heart beat of the big Red machine

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<v Speaker 2>man in that trade. Woody Friman what retired the next

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<v Speaker 2>year in mid season and went back to his farm.

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<v Speaker 2>Dale Murray did nothing. Will mcin any certainly was a

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<v Speaker 2>very fine reliever for the Reds. But man oh Man,

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<v Speaker 2>this state, speaking of trades, nineteen eighty two, the Reds

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<v Speaker 2>traded Tom Seaver back to the Mets. They got Charlie Puleo.

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<v Speaker 2>Last from the past in two minor leaguers, including Lloyd McClendon,

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<v Speaker 2>and in twenty fifteen, ten years ago. Today, Reds are

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<v Speaker 2>involved in a three way trade with the Dodgers and

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox. The Reds give up Todd Frazier and

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<v Speaker 2>the Reds wound up acquiring Jose Perrazza, Scott Schebler, and

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Dixon. Parazza is okay. Scott s Shebler had a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty home run season for the Reds. That's a great

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<v Speaker 2>trivia question. Who would think that Scott Schebler hit thirty

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<v Speaker 2>home runs in a season? But not much from not

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<v Speaker 2>much from Brandon Dixon. All right, your news of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and congratulations to Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang, Reggie Sanders, and Loupenela.

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<v Speaker 2>Phillips and Harang got the most votes on the Modern

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<v Speaker 2>Player ballot, which featured were a total of eight nominees,

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<v Speaker 2>and among those that did not make the cut according

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<v Speaker 2>to the fans, that is Homer Bailey, Francisco Cordero, who

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<v Speaker 2>still has a pretty good case. I mean Francisco Cordero

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty saves with the Red second and

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<v Speaker 2>franchise history the team and saves four times was at

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<v Speaker 2>All Star won forty games on their twenty ten Division

1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Championship team. Zach Cozart, Mike Leak, Scott Roland, and Edison Volcaz.

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<v Speaker 2>Fan votes on the Modern Player ballot were combined with

1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:34.200
<v Speaker 2>ballots from media. I was part of that, and Red's

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<v Speaker 2>alumni Reggie Sanders and Lou Panella were chosen by the

1:15:39.280 --> 1:15:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Red's Hall of Fame Veterans Committee, which included, among others,

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<v Speaker 2>Marty Brenneman. He talked about that earlier tonight on Reds

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Stove, which considered players whose career ended more than

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years ago, players, managers, executives. The four Phillips, Harang, Sanders,

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<v Speaker 2>Penola will be honored April twenty fourth through the sixth

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<v Speaker 2>Reds Hall of Fame Induction celebration by PNC, and tickets

1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:12.599
<v Speaker 2>to that gala at the Convention Center on sale REDS

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<v Speaker 2>Museum Dot Org. I still am struck by the time

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Phillips spent here and the consistency. I mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>earlier with the home runs, but and even from a

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<v Speaker 2>his glove is the headliner, but offensively a thirty home

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<v Speaker 2>run season twenty one twenty and then four straight seasons

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen. But he drove in ninety four. One year,

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<v Speaker 2>he drove in ninety eight, he drove in one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and three, he stole thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five, twenty five, twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, and man, the pure joy that he played with

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<v Speaker 2>and the connection he made with this fan base pretty

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and very happy for all. I would say all,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just think it's cool that Reggie Sanders gets

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<v Speaker 2>brought back into the spotlight and remembered for the totality

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<v Speaker 2>of his career, which I think, to me replaces the

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<v Speaker 2>previous big picture view of Reggie by many he was, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who struck out a gazillion times in

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety five postseason. This now becomes the biggest talking

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<v Speaker 2>point in the memory I hope for Reds fans of

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Sanders now being a Red's Hall of Famer. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I had more time. I could have used that

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<v Speaker 2>extra hour tonight. Thanks to Sean McMahon for producing, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to you for taking a listen. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Walker is next after.

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<v Speaker 2>News I'm back at you tomorrow night at six. This

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<v Speaker 2>has been RNL Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Valet

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW