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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, Anthony. We sound okay back there.

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Speaker 3: Sounding good. I catch all the Anthony, however, that's all

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters. We're gonna be in rap We're

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Speaker 1: And yeah, man, we got all sorts of fun stuff

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Speaker 4: Where was anybody like where AVS fans upset at this because.

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Speaker 4: We're able to do that. I think what I said,

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Speaker 3: You know, that very specific rotation.

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Speaker 3: You get what you get what you get out of that.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if you are die hard and your

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Speaker 2: Attention to want to runner.

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Speaker 1: Now again, there's a lot of different ways to approach

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I'm hoping we don't know what

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Speaker 3: With questions about that.

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Speaker 1: So even in a deep and I believe this is

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, I haven't asked you yet,

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Speaker 4: Draft class, I think they'll double dip. Okay, you could

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Speaker 2: That's that's the direction I would go.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for that specifically. I guess it's more

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Speaker 3: That's really more.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's understanding because it's a salary cap league.

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Speaker 1: They like, you know, like for example, like you can

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Speaker 1: And again, I hate I hate this strong word. I

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Speaker 1: But everybody wanted a Marion Hampton. Now, in retrospect, Marion

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Speaker 2: Are I'll go best player available, I guess is what

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Speaker 4: good football players, you're gonna mess around have a good

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Speaker 4: football team. Right, So you know that goes back to

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Speaker 4: funny enough, That goes back to the biggest argument I

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Speaker 4: had at the Broncos fan base when I was banging

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Speaker 4: the table saying this passer Tan pick is gonna be great,

445
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Speaker 4: and fants were telling me what an idiot I was

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Speaker 4: for the the Broncos not selecting and George Payton was

447
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Speaker 4: an idiot for not selecting.

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Speaker 3: Justin freaking fields, give us that.

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Speaker 2: The quarterback is different.

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Speaker 4: Again, if you're gonna do bp A, bp A, if

451
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Speaker 4: you don't believe in a quarterback, don't take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Just you know. And they did not believe in justice,

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Speaker 3: and that's.

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Speaker 2: Really what it is.

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Speaker 3: They can just believe in just fans the media did.

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Speaker 1: The fans of the media are gonna say whatever they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say. But the bagger point is the quarterback is

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Speaker 1: the only one. Like, for example, the Raiders picking at

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, they're all gonna take Bana Mendoza. See,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't I know you wouldn't I know you.

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Speaker 1: But let's just live in reality for a minute. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are going to I would if you're John Spytech,

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Speaker 1: you're taking Bernana Mendoza. You know, part of luring Clink

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Speaker 1: Kobiak to the Raiders is the final higher was you

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Speaker 1: get the first get to pick your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: There is no other quarterback in the same conversation.

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Speaker 1: You and I both like Ty Simpson, but not enough

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Speaker 1: to take him over for Anna Mendoza. So the point

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Speaker 1: of it is is you're drafting a quarterback there, even

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Speaker 1: though I think you still have Geno Smith on your roster.

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Speaker 1: You're drafting your quarterback there because you need a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Gino will be gone, I'm telling you right now. They're

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Speaker 4: not keeping him as a mentor. He'll be gone.

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Speaker 2: Well, you almost have to.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even like, hey, Gino, you were so

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Speaker 1: bad last year, you got to be gone.

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Speaker 2: It's just for the few people that are left.

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Speaker 1: In the locker room that might lock Gino and can't

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Speaker 1: create a situation.

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Speaker 3: You know, got done dirty. You know they can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, if I were the Raiders. It's

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Speaker 4: your first year. Nobody's expecting you to win, right your

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Speaker 4: first year, there's a regime. I'd absolutely try to get

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Speaker 4: a sucker to come up there and get Mendoza, the

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Speaker 4: Jets of the Cardinals, somebody like that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I might take a chance. We've got

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Speaker 3: one hundred million castpace. I might take a chance on Malik.

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Speaker 4: Willis, who Arizona and Miami you're going to be trying

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Speaker 4: to fight over. I might take a chance on Elik

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Speaker 4: Willis for a year and then then, you know, take

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Speaker 4: the boatload of draft picks I'm getting for somebody to

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Speaker 4: trade up now. I've got a bevy of them for

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Speaker 4: the arts Manning, sweech Takes or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Think there's a scenario with that. Arizona just sticks with Kyler.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's no, it's the same GM, but new

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. Okay, curbly, all right. We'rerob rolling here on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, very excited to be with you, live from

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis for the twenty twenty six NFL combine.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Ever, Benjamin Albright.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll check in with our NFL insider,

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Speaker 1: NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. That's Coming up next on

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Speaker 1: the Kway Broncos Radio Network, We're gonna head right out

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Speaker 3: Ian.

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Speaker 2: I know you're in India as well. Good afternoon, my friend.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Guys? How are you?

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Speaker 3: We're were great.

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Speaker 2: We're obviously very excited about the week.

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite part about Combine Week every year?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, it's such a crazy role

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Speaker 5: win for me now, Like it's fun, but I think

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Speaker 5: what I spent a lot of time doing is so

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Speaker 5: literally walking around, whether it's like you know, during the

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Speaker 5: day or a night with a maybe a beer in

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Speaker 5: my hands, or just like just kind of walking around

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Speaker 5: because it's literally everyone you could possibly want to chat

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Speaker 5: with is either in the hallways or in the bars,

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Speaker 5: or in the restaurants or on the streets, and so

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Speaker 5: I just try to make myself very mobile and then

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Speaker 5: see who you run into. And that's always a pretty

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Speaker 5: fun part of us.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I gotta ask, did you hire security

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Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 5: I did not hire security. I think I should be okay,

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Speaker 5: but you never know. But yes, I mean I will

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Speaker 5: be ready for I was actually at that Starbucks where

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Speaker 5: I got yelled at last year just now, and everybody

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Speaker 5: was making jokes and I get it. It's all good,

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Speaker 5: it's all out there, you know. But yeah, I would,

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Speaker 5: I would really, I would be very happy if there

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Speaker 5: was not a repeat of that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we understand that for sure.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get through something to ask this a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. What what are we hearing about

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Speaker 1: a possible extension for George Peyton. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: rumors flying around about the Minnesota Vikings and maybe some

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Speaker 1: other interest out there. Uh just do you get the

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Speaker 1: sense that George Peyton is going to be staying here

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Speaker 1: in Denver?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's going to be really interesting to see.

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Speaker 5: I've not heard that there's anything imminent on a possible extension.

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Speaker 5: You know what, what I think everybody wants anytime anyone's

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Speaker 5: doing a deal is you know, you want to be wanted,

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Speaker 5: then you want leverage. And I think you know, he's

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Speaker 5: at the point now where he is shown that he's

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Speaker 5: really good, and he has shown that, you know, he

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Speaker 5: is someone who can help build a team. He could do,

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Speaker 5: you know, kind of what Sean Payton wants as far

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Speaker 5: as bringing in the right players and running the program

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Speaker 5: and all of that. He's proven to be really good. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, if if they do keep them, my guess

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Speaker 5: is it's going down a little bit of new deal.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: My my other guests would be that, you know, Minnesota

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Speaker 5: would be interesting. Now how would would work? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he's been there a long time. I was in

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Speaker 5: Minnesota a long time. But I think it's just going

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Speaker 5: to be a really interesting situation to continue to follow.

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Speaker 4: You know, you look at the Brookos running back situation,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be they plan on being active in free

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Speaker 4: agency again, looking around the running back I think JK

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Speaker 4: is kind of a fallback option for it. But you

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Speaker 4: got some of these other options out there, whether it's

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Speaker 4: a you know, Algier and at the end or maybe

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Speaker 4: Briefe Hall. Do you think the Jets are going to

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Speaker 4: let him get the free agency?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel great that they will. You know, usually

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Speaker 5: when you're a program that's building you know, let's say

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Speaker 5: the Jets I deserved, they tore a light down last year,

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Speaker 5: and the league building. You know, I think keeping good

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Speaker 5: players in the building is important. And franchise tag where

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Speaker 5: the transition tag is the way to do it. It's

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Speaker 5: gonna be fascinating if it's a transition tag though, But

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Speaker 5: then you know, the pre shall his agent Nicolon, will

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Speaker 5: have the opportunity to go out and shop and say

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Speaker 5: like what can I get? We want to do a deal,

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Speaker 5: and then you know, obviously the gest would have the

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Speaker 5: opportunity to match. But then you really, you know, you

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Speaker 5: get to see what the what the market really is.

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Speaker 5: I think that's going to be fun. You know, as

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Speaker 5: far as Dobbin sounds like he's doing really well help wise.

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Speaker 5: Obviously for Gendro last year before he's anger, he was,

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Speaker 5: you know, you guys know, pretty good, really good. I

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Speaker 5: would imagine that would be somebody want to bring back.

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Speaker 5: But obviously money is a factor as well.

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Speaker 2: Any sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: And I guess over the course of the week you'll

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Speaker 1: get more on this that Fernando Mendoza is not the

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Speaker 1: first overall pick. I mean for the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 1: I know they have quite a few holes in their team.

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Speaker 1: Ben and I were just debating whether or not the

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Speaker 1: Raiders should consider trading back if they can find a

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Speaker 1: trade partner, and maybe acquiring assets. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's your sense on what the Raiders, as we said

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Speaker 1: here the eve of the combine.

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Speaker 5: I think they'll think, I mean, you know what he's

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Speaker 5: going to be. I don't know, but he's certainly someone

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Speaker 5: who warrants being me mumble one overall pick. And if

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Speaker 5: you're a team like the Raiders, I mean, you go

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Speaker 5: through a lot, a lot to draft number one and

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Speaker 5: what you know, you know what that means. It means

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Speaker 5: a lot of office, a lot about football, a lot

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Speaker 5: of pain and at the firing of Pete Carroll's staff,

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Speaker 5: and then a lot. If you have the option and

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to draft the number one overall pick and

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Speaker 5: it's a quarterback, he's good enough and take it and

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Speaker 5: you sort of live with whatever it ends up being,

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Speaker 5: you know, and hopefully he's good enough to carry the

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Speaker 5: franchise to be someone where you know, everyone's employed for

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Speaker 5: the next fifteen years. If the Tendans wanted last year,

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Speaker 5: that the Raiders want this year, and if I guess

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Speaker 5: I would say that's probably what happens.

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Speaker 3: Is there anybody at this combine that you're that you're

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Speaker 3: seriously looking at?

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Speaker 2: Uh uh?

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Speaker 4: You want to see them, just want to see them

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Speaker 4: work out or whatever. Like for me, it's like Hilton

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Speaker 4: the wide receiver from LSU. I think he can fly.

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Speaker 3: Is there anybody you just really want to see out

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Speaker 3: of this combine?

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm sort of I'm not. I'm sort of

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Speaker 5: not there yet as far as I mean, obviously we're

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Speaker 5: here at the combine, but you know, I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 5: As far as digging into the draft process. Ty Simpson

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Speaker 5: is the one I'm sort of wondering about because you know,

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Speaker 5: does he go in the first round, does he not

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Speaker 5: he's going to throw here? Does he solidify his opportunity

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Speaker 5: to be to be QB two and what does that

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Speaker 5: look like? So, I mean, I think that's probably the

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Speaker 5: one who is most interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: Last one I have for you.

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Speaker 1: We have the course of the Falcons today putting Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pits with the announce that looks like Kyle Pitts is

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Speaker 1: going to get the franchise tag. What does that team

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Speaker 1: look like at quarterback next year? What's what's your your

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Speaker 1: gauge on the way they're going to approach that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, they have Michael Pennick junior,

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Speaker 5: who you know may not be ready to start the season.

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Speaker 5: So either way, they're gonna have to bring someoney in

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Speaker 5: her cousins makes a lot of sense. It was our

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Speaker 5: last year. His uh, his wife's family is from there

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Speaker 5: and his family in the Atlanta area, So you know,

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Speaker 5: I think that would make a lot of sense. Do

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Speaker 5: they pay enough where there's someone like, let's say in Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: bring him back for another run. He's gonna have because

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Speaker 5: of the way he played last year, He's gonna have

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Speaker 5: a really good market. But I would say, you know, certainly,

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Speaker 5: that's that is a scenario to watch, is what just

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Speaker 5: Kirk because he's doing issue the starting quarterback in the

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Speaker 5: Atlanta factis to start miss all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, we will see you in and about

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis here in the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate you joining us for a few minutes

660
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Speaker 2: this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Man, Thank you, Just so you guys know how how

662
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Speaker 5: important you are to meet. Gus Braveley came up to

663
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Speaker 5: say hello, and I told him, hey, guys, Hey man, listen,

664
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Speaker 5: I'm on the phone. I'll talk to you when I

665
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Speaker 5: talk to you. Just I'm talking to you, guys.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

668
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Speaker 3: I'll get your beer here one of these nights.

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Speaker 5: Hey you better bye, guys.

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Speaker 2: It's thanks. That's a good rival board. Always good stuff there.

671
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Speaker 1: And yeah, he's a very busy man. Uh, he's he's

672
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a kind of moving shake. I mean he's

673
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of like you. I mean I've watched I've been

674
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Speaker 1: doing this now with coming here with you for many

675
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Speaker 1: years and watching you work a room or work a

676
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Speaker 1: bar or just working. And it's it's a sight to

677
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Speaker 1: be so to be seen, to be honest, because as

678
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Speaker 1: somebody that just you know, we cover the game around

679
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: the blocker room and players and those kinds of things.

680
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Speaker 1: To see insiders working is a different animal together.

681
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Speaker 3: It's uh, it's fun.

682
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Speaker 4: I was trying to explain it the other day on

683
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Speaker 4: UH on Broncos Country to Night. I was trying to

684
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Speaker 4: explain the process to to Nick and who else. I

685
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: think it was Grant that were it was producing that night.

686
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Speaker 4: I was trying to explain it to that.

687
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Speaker 3: I couldn't. I just couldn't explain. I'm like finally I

688
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: got to the phototacle. Just ask Ryan.

689
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Speaker 4: He watches it happen, so he can sort of explain

690
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Speaker 4: it to you, probably better than I can.

691
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Speaker 2: It's it's weird.

692
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I I almost can't because it's networking,

693
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Speaker 1: it's information gathering, and and it happens in such a

694
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Speaker 1: way that.

695
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Speaker 2: You kind of like, did I just see that?

696
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Speaker 1: That's just that's awesome watching the sausage get made, but

697
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Speaker 1: actually kind of being okay with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy the content this week as we're

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Speaker 1: live from the twenty twenty sixth Indianapolis NFL Combine, and.

701
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be here all week. Very excited about that.

702
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to get we actually have some some

703
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Speaker 1: interesting news for Broncos fans. As it retains to the

704
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Speaker 1: running back. We'll get to that here in about seven

705
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Speaker 1: or so minutes. I wanted to ask you about the

706
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks because I was. I asked ian about Atlanta. I

707
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Speaker 1: think you got Atlanta, you got New York with the Jets,

708
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Speaker 1: You've got Arizona, you got Miami, maybe even Minnesota. I

709
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Speaker 1: think it's gotta be in that conversation. So this is

710
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Speaker 1: a week like out here in Indianapolis certainly about a

711
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Speaker 1: lot of the prospects, and we'll get to some prospects

712
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Speaker 1: that we're excited to see.

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Speaker 2: Here just a little bit. But what do you think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna learn about the quarterbacks of those specific teams

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Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Where they're going? Yea, because the Jets are not gonna

718
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: run it back with fields. I mean that the man

719
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Speaker 4: they signed him that was we're tanking this season. Uh,

720
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Speaker 4: Kyler's not going to be back in Arizona. Two is

721
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Speaker 4: not going to be back in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Uh. In Miami and Arizona, I know.

723
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Speaker 4: That they are two teams are gonna be fighting over

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Speaker 4: Malik Willis, who's viewed as the top free agent.

725
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Speaker 1: By the way, in a fascinating like turn of events,

726
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Speaker 1: because we did a combine one year, I would I

727
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Speaker 1: remember and I I was pound of the table for

728
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Speaker 1: Milike Willis because he had that maybe staged moment where

729
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Speaker 1: he did that was still the stage, yes whatever, But anyways,

730
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Speaker 1: you know, the time is like, no, this guy is

731
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Speaker 1: gonna go probably day two, maybe even to day three,

732
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Speaker 1: and it's like all right, and.

733
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Speaker 2: That's what that's what he ended up doing.

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Speaker 1: He went in the third round and then he was

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Speaker 1: like nobody wanted Blake Willis.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, that guy. I don't even know if I can

737
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Speaker 2: play quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: And now he's the number one guy at the top

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Speaker 1: of everybody's board as a free agent quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Like, didn't he get rolled out against Denver? Didn't he

741
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Speaker 4: debut like against Denver or something like that? He came

742
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Speaker 4: on in relief of somebody in one of those games.

743
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Speaker 4: Oh we get with Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, he might have. And I think

745
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Speaker 3: he was like horrible yet at that point. But he's

746
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Speaker 3: but he's he's a guy that's steadily grown.

747
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Speaker 4: And and he's got you know, he would did the

748
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: little rehab tour under a lafloor up there in Green Bay.

749
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Speaker 4: And now everybody's looking at this and said, Okay, he

750
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Speaker 4: might he might actually be something.

751
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Speaker 3: And uh, you know again, when.

752
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Speaker 4: You're desperate, and Arizona and Miami are clearly desperate, you

753
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: know you'll you'll roll the dice on he might be

754
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Speaker 4: something and and and pay him forty million a year.

755
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Speaker 4: And that's that's about the ballpark that he he could

756
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Speaker 4: be in.

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Speaker 1: That just to me, And again, I like Malik Willis,

758
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: but he's he's a limited quarterback like he I mean

759
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Speaker 1: he is. But you know what I mean, if you're

760
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Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley there with Miami and you're thinking about, well,

761
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: we could design some things with the running give gift

762
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Speaker 1: Davon ain Chain there, I mean, you could design some

763
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Speaker 1: really clever things with a running game, and I don't know,

764
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Speaker 1: man it seem to do in Arizona, Like you just

765
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Speaker 1: sort of think, like, now, this guy raises our floor,

766
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Speaker 1: which again is kind of a wild thing to say

767
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Speaker 1: with a quarterback that's that limited. But here we are

768
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and he justifiably represents the best

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Speaker 1: of free agent options.

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Speaker 2: Once again, Broncos fans, whatever you think about bo Nicks,

771
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: be very grateful.

772
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Speaker 1: We're in this situation we're in because if we're one

773
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Speaker 1: of those teams, those six teams I just listed off,

774
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Speaker 1: that's a scary proposition because not only about what you're

775
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna be doing now, but it projects into what you

776
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Speaker 1: think you could do into the future too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Atlanta, with the Penix thing, I mean, I don't

778
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be there next year. I think you're

779
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: kind of stuck this year waiting on him to come back.

780
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Speaker 4: I do believe they'll bring Dylan Gabriel in once Cleveland

781
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: eventually moves on from him. I do believe James Winston

782
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: would also be in play there in Atlanta, so you

783
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Speaker 4: might have a three headed room.

784
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Speaker 3: With those guys. We'll see how how that goes.

785
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Speaker 4: The Miami thing is fascinating, though, because if you whiff

786
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: on on Willis and you already have made it abundantly

787
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Speaker 4: clear you moving on from from Ta what.

788
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Speaker 3: Are you doing? Is quinn Ewer's your guy this year?

789
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Speaker 3: Is this a tryout year?

790
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Speaker 4: Is this like the the Drew Lock year with the Broncos,

791
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Speaker 4: you know where you're like, all right, let's see, let's

792
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: see if this guy's in. He played, he showed little

793
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Speaker 4: flash at the end of you know, up with games

794
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Speaker 4: that we we had with him.

795
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Speaker 3: Let's let's see what he's got. And you know that

796
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Speaker 3: that's a possibility.

797
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: It's a strong possibility that Quinn yours could wind up

798
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Speaker 4: being the starting quarterback of the Dolphins this year. The

799
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Speaker 4: Dolphins in the Arizona by the way the sportsbooks are

800
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: projecting them, they're.

801
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Over unders are four and a half. So if those

802
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: teams win five games, you'll cash your.

803
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Over ticket, and honestly, I don't see it. I don't

804
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: know if I see it.

805
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean, at least Miami gets to play the Jets twice.

806
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Speaker 2: You we're right.

807
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Speaker 1: It is a conversation in February versus you know, you

808
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: get closer to the season and you kind of have

809
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a maybe a bitter, a better understanding of what the

810
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: plan is, even if it's a bad plan, like with

811
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Speaker 1: the Jets last year, and you very famously have been

812
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Speaker 1: very critical of the direction that they ultimately went at quarterback.

813
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: Well, they ended up being that bad.

814
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Speaker 1: So I guess a little tip of the cap to you, Ben,

815
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Speaker 1: you ended up being right, But.

816
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: God, that hurt to say.

817
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: It feels good to be on the right side.

818
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Speaker 1: Like my entire throat anyways, anyway, So what if Minnesota

819
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Speaker 1: very quickly.

820
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Speaker 4: That's one that's kind of interesting because I think, you know,

821
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Speaker 4: with Kyler Murray out there, whether whether he goes to

822
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Speaker 4: the Jets ultimately, whether he goes to Minnesota for a

823
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: rehab tour, that kind of thing. It's it's fascinating to

824
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: see where Kyler is going to kind of wind up,

825
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: and I think that is sort of the interesting I

826
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Speaker 4: don't say fly on the ointment. But the interesting piece

827
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Speaker 4: of the equation that you can't really put you can't.

828
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Speaker 3: Really pin down each name to each spot yet, because

829
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Speaker 3: that's the one that's lurking.

830
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Speaker 1: Okay, five six six nine zoros or Kwa Comma Spird

831
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Speaker 1: health text line. I got a text coming in here

832
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: dismissing my BPA strategy, so I do want to get

833
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: to that coming up here in just a little bit.

834
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: Also another name to throw in the mix via Ben

835
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Speaker 1: at Broncos running Back. It's a it's a really interesting

836
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Speaker 1: one to me, and we'll tell you who that is

837
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Speaker 1: coming up next on Kowa