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Speaker 4: is now opening an inquiry into the surge of live

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Speaker 5: I'm Scott Davidson, run a business and not thinking about radio.

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Speaker 2: Think again, because people are listening. Pay attention. Dump scull

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Speaker 2: and talk the ex at one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: Double m on the X talking on to Tim Ben's

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Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of a red flag

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin era in that locker room.

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Speaker 5: I think you and I have both been on the

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Speaker 3: To how the Steelers are covered by.

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Speaker 3: I think the players did that and.

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Speaker 5: They kind of trusted him, and he was a conduit

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Speaker 3: And he's not gonna have a lot of time to

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Speaker 1: No. I agree with all of that, and it speaks

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Speaker 1: But now he's gone, and the player's pretty much defecated

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Speaker 5: Had to mark they had to defecate on it because

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Speaker 1: Good good point, only only five stalls. That's the funniest

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Speaker 2: Aren't the players just whining?

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Speaker 2: They're all in first class seats. How bad could it

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Speaker 5: I think they're blame shifting. I think that's one thing

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Speaker 5: didn't the trading staff do okay in this? I believe

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good point, but there's tangible stuff that

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Speaker 1: We can too often see that just watching on TV.

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Speaker 1: But here's the punchline, tim it will get fixed and

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Speaker 2: Tim that's one thing I am sure of.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, the one thing that taxpayers can't fix is the

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Speaker 5: to be able to fix all the green holes in

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Speaker 5: I think their problems for a reason is that, you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's on the macro with a.

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Speaker 5: Big picture thing like how the organization is run and

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Speaker 1: Clearly, the guy who takes the biggest hitness survey is

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Speaker 1: Art the owner, and just.

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Speaker 2: As clearly probably deserves it.

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Speaker 1: The Rooney spend on payroll, they spend the cap most times,

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Speaker 2: You know, he's cheap. His dad was cheap, his granddad

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Speaker 5: And I wonder if that's where some of the travel

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Speaker 3: And when I say lesser, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Just not the players, about who goes, who stays home,

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Speaker 5: if that's where they're grumbling is coming from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the players are not crammed into coach. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've flown on the charter before.

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Speaker 5: I flew on the charter back in two thousand and

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Speaker 3: And five or whatever it was to a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what they flew at Alabama

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Speaker 5: and in a lot of cases though colleges actually have

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Speaker 5: better facilities. But that's not unique to just the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: You hear that about some other NFL facilities too. But

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Speaker 5: you hit on a very important point, Mark, and I

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Speaker 5: think that's part of the irony of why these guys,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if every.

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Speaker 5: Single one of these players actually did reply to the

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Speaker 5: know that these guys all got paid, you know, like

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Speaker 5: DK Metcalf got a huge contract to come here, Jack

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Speaker 1: Would a shock you if the biggest bitchers and the

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Speaker 5: Then again, those guys have had multiple opportunities to leave,

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Speaker 3: Over and over again. You Know, one thing I wonder.

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Speaker 5: Is is the gret thing coming from guys who have

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Speaker 5: a Jalen Ramsey, Minka Fitzpatrick thing?

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Speaker 1: You like those guys, Ken, You made a good point

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Speaker 5: True. And the funniest part about all this is how

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Speaker 5: hard the NFL fought to keep these results in house,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know. I was thinking that when.

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Speaker 5: I saw the litany of stories that came out about

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Speaker 5: Everybody's gonna get the information anyway. And now there's even

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Speaker 5: whatever money was spent on that was just good money

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tim. Ben's in the trib.

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Speaker 1: Tim brock To was by Calusi Chevrolet, serving the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Tim, let's start to the Penguins.

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Speaker 1: Can the Penguins survive and hold on to a playoff

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Speaker 1: admittedly against the not very good Devil's team been two

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Speaker 5: I was looking at the first five games coming out

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Speaker 5: and trying to figure out if that was going to

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Speaker 5: the first thing that jumped out of me is you

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Speaker 3: Be done last night. It was a choppy game at first.

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Speaker 5: It looked like the Penguins hadn't played for three weeks,

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Speaker 5: and the Devils looked like they're on the back half

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Speaker 3: Who was on a vendor for three days. So you know,

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Speaker 5: Early there were a lot of penalties that had to

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Speaker 5: the Penguins looked like the much better team and emphasizing

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Speaker 5: what you said earlier. It's great timing to sort of

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm still interested to see a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: I probably didn't watch it because I was working on

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Speaker 5: we got to figure out and watch closely. And still

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Speaker 1: You need to get another center somehow, even you know,

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Speaker 1: a revelation. He's a thirty goal guy in the making.

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Speaker 1: And here's where I give Dan Muse credit the coach.

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Speaker 1: If Chinnakoff comes here and Selly's coaching, Chinnikoff's the bottom six,

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Speaker 1: he would not have put Chinnikov directly in a major role,

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Speaker 1: but Muse did.

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Speaker 5: In fact, he's the kind of guy that I wonder

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Speaker 5: if do or before Dubus Rutherford, maybe even I'm not

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Speaker 5: talking about Hextall, but you know how out tight Sully

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Speaker 5: and Rutherford were like you.

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Speaker 3: And they occasionally had some rubs on personnel too.

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Speaker 5: But like if Rutherford went out and got that guy, yeah,

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Speaker 5: then he would be buried.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe Sully would say, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't want that guy because he hasn't worked out and

448
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Speaker 5: he's just a skilled guy that doesn't finish enough or

449
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Speaker 5: doesn't play with enough skill when it matters. But I

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Speaker 5: think that's a good point that you make, that he's

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Speaker 5: been given an opportunity to thrive with a player he

452
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Speaker 5: obviously likes playing with, and I think that's one hand.

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Speaker 3: Washing the other there.

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Speaker 5: I think he has rejuvenated Mault into a degree in

455
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Speaker 5: Malting is pumping his tires too.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great fit.

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Speaker 5: And I liked what you said about him in your

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Speaker 5: previous hour when you were talking about how, you know,

459
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Speaker 5: maybe he's not dominating games, but you know, it feels

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Speaker 5: like once a game the red light goes on because

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Speaker 5: of something he does, and that's a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a Kessel quality.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: And maybe I also think he's doing it without some

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Speaker 5: of the you know, defensive lapses and.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, but that's because he's at wing.

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Speaker 1: If he was at center, he'd still be a liability

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Speaker 1: in the neutral zone. But but at wing, you can

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Speaker 1: only do so much damage coming the other way.

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Speaker 2: It's that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Position, correct, right exactly. And I think that.

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Speaker 5: They got what they needed out of Kessel in that regard,

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Speaker 5: because just getting the goals and getting the production the

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Speaker 5: point production, you know, and making that line that he

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Speaker 5: had better was worth anything that he didn't do for

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Speaker 5: the first couple of years. And then that you know,

477
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Speaker 5: that scale stopped balancing out so much by twenty eighteen,

478
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Speaker 5: and they eventually made the move to get rid of them.

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Speaker 5: But I think Chinikov for now sort of fits that

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Speaker 5: bill of Hey, just put him out there and if

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Speaker 5: he gets your three goals and two games, or you know,

482
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Speaker 5: over the course of five games, gets your four goals

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Speaker 5: in an assist, then it's it's worth in every penny.

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Speaker 1: I've come to realize that those trying to ruin US

485
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Speaker 1: Hockey winning double gold are a nutty, vocal minority. It's

486
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Speaker 1: very nutty. It's very vocal, and a lot of its

487
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Speaker 1: media we're hearing a lot of lies. But I give

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Speaker 1: the members of both teams credit. They have not risen

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Speaker 1: to the bait. They've conducted themselves with class and character

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Speaker 1: and just have looked even better in the aftermath.

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Speaker 2: What say you, Hughes.

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Speaker 3: Certainly did that last night, all of them. I don't

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Speaker 3: know you. I don't know if you were. You weren't there,

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Speaker 3: Mark because you had your get a viewing party.

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Speaker 5: But I was thinking, you know, kind of comparing it

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Speaker 5: to what I remember from the Ryan Miller celebration when

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Speaker 5: he came here.

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Speaker 3: For Game one after the Olympics, and.

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Speaker 5: It certainly wasn't as spontaneous this time. I think everybody

500
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Speaker 5: knew it was coming. I think the last time that happened.

501
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Speaker 5: It was like, Hey, how's this going to go?

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Speaker 3: What are they going to do?

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Speaker 5: And the response was so massive people still talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But at that time, Ryan Miller got silver. Jack Hughes

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Speaker 1: scored the game winning goal in over time of the

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Speaker 1: gold medal game. This was, like what I said, a

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Speaker 1: sure thing, but organically so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, organically it was very genuine with Miller. I think

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Speaker 5: we all knew it was gonna happen with Hughes. We

510
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Speaker 5: did know it was gonna happen with Ughs. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they sold it as big in part

512
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Speaker 5: because I think it was awkward with the crossby not

513
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Speaker 5: even being able to be on the ice and being

514
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Speaker 5: up in the press box and them saying that he

515
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Speaker 5: won silver twenty seconds before they introduced Hughes, and that

516
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Speaker 5: was that. I think they felt the need to maybe

517
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Speaker 5: not give it as much of a huge pop over

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Speaker 5: the jumpotron and you know, play the national anthem or

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Speaker 5: anything like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, God blessed America while he was standing one.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was good, but but I mean, one thing last

523
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Speaker 1: night showed is the people know there wasn't there wasn't

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Speaker 1: even a smattering of booze. There there was no pushback

525
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Speaker 1: to all the crap we're hearing from that nutty vocal minority.

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Speaker 2: The people know.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not a Trump supporter. I've never voted for Trump,

528
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Speaker 5: but I know why he wins, and he.

529
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Speaker 3: Wins because of that.

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Speaker 5: It's that pervasive attitude from the other side that goes

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Speaker 5: so far to take any sort of symbolism of the

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Speaker 5: country and crap all.

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Speaker 3: Over it because of who's in the White House.

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Speaker 1: No, no, the extreme right makes us feel good by way

535
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Speaker 1: of their mechanations. The extreme left makes us feel miserable.

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Speaker 1: Neither is better than the other, but one's just better

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Speaker 1: at their job, and that's why he's the president.

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Speaker 5: And I think we also know because you know, we

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Speaker 5: saw it at times when Obama was in the White House.

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Speaker 5: I can't think of an example off the top of

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Speaker 5: my head when Biden was in the White House, but

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Speaker 5: you know, if there was a player who didn't go

543
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Speaker 5: when the rest of the team did go, that guy.

544
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Speaker 2: Was excoriated, well, like like Tim Thomas.

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Speaker 5: Tim Thomas is the example I was thinking of, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So you know it's not good for the goose.

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Speaker 5: If it's good for the gander, the way that they

548
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Speaker 5: present themselves on that side of the fence.

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Speaker 3: And I think clearly it would happen to if you know,

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Speaker 3: Trump was not in office, that the other side would

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Speaker 3: do it. And that's the unfortunate part of that.

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Speaker 5: And that's why we'll never have a true nineteen eighty

553
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Speaker 5: moment again, because no one wants to be useful.

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Speaker 2: I knew it ruined it. You saw what Eruzione said.

555
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Speaker 1: He was just dumbfounded by the by the again a

556
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Speaker 1: minority lacking support.

557
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Speaker 2: And you know, Keith Oberman frods at the mouth.

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Speaker 1: He should just collapse because he's a rabid dog when

559
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Speaker 1: he talks about this stuff.

560
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Speaker 2: But I got even more.

561
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Speaker 1: Pissed at Megan Rapino, who said the US team was

562
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Speaker 1: manipulated by a clown and looked like clowns. Okay, Megan

563
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Speaker 1: Rappino took a team that was America's sweethearts, that was

564
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Speaker 1: loved across the country unconditionally, and she divided the country,

565
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Speaker 1: divided her own team because she wanted to be one

566
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Speaker 1: way thinking, which is unfair to those who didn't think

567
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Speaker 1: her way. She made the team thoroughly unlikable. And what

568
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: she did was she pulled up the ladder behind her.

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Speaker 1: Her making the team unlikable is affecting negatively the women

570
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Speaker 1: who play for it. Now, you know, I don't think

571
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Speaker 1: she did it intentionally to make sure that she would

572
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Speaker 1: always be the only one her and her teammates at

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Speaker 1: the top rung.

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Speaker 2: But that's certainly how it.

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Speaker 5: Worked out, and maybe maybe she was aware of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not rolling it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

578
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Speaker 5: And what I really didn't like about how she handled

579
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Speaker 5: herself publicly with those comments is, you know, have a

580
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Speaker 5: little understanding of what's going on there.

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Speaker 3: For God's sake, she got the FBI director in the.

582
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Speaker 5: Locker room holding a phone open, and there's cameras rolling.

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Speaker 1: You can't kick them out, you can't make them hang

584
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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 3: You just can't, right, And you know this, so the

586
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Speaker 3: president and I can assure.

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Speaker 1: You when she said those people would not have been

588
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Speaker 1: in her locker room, I can assure you they would

589
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Speaker 1: have been had they wanted to.

590
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing, had they wanted to. But

591
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Speaker 5: you know, she's got to understand that it's not an

592
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Speaker 5: easy position for those guys to be in.

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Speaker 3: And you know, so they're supposed to not handle themselves

594
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Speaker 3: with They're.

595
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Speaker 2: Supposed to be miserable on her behalf.

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Speaker 1: That's what she wants, that Oberman wants, That's what but

597
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Tard wants. Half the Canadian hockey writers who were just

598
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: mad because Canada lost, they want that team to be

599
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Speaker 1: miserable on their behalf. And good for them, guys. They're

600
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: not biting.

601
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Speaker 5: And I'm speaking out of school a little bit here,

602
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: but you know, I was told something. And I'm not

603
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Speaker 5: going to say which market this was in, and I'm

604
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Speaker 5: not going to say which outlet this was, but there

605
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Speaker 5: is at least one national outlet that I know of

606
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Speaker 5: that's like hunting for stories about Jack Hughes being booed

607
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 5: if you were to go to So.

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Speaker 2: It's the Athletic, Okay, I know that for sure. I

609
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: mean it's no, I don't even think that's a secret.

610
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Speaker 1: I mean the same Athletic that sent reporters to NHL

611
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Speaker 1: locker rooms to try to prevent Carter Hart and Mike

612
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Speaker 1: McLeod from the rape case who got acquitted by a

613
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Speaker 1: judge who said it was a ridiculous case, no no

614
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Speaker 1: validation to it. And they were asking players, how would

615
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: you feel about playing with an accused rapist? And and

616
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Speaker 1: in Vegas they kicked the guy out before he could

617
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Speaker 1: ask questions, which was the way to approach it.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the thing of it is is Day

619
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Speaker 5: first of all, is completely out of touch because where

620
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Speaker 5: is he going to get booed?

621
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Speaker 3: Like what what hockey arena? Is he going to go

622
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: in and get booed? That's an American Arenait.

623
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Speaker 5: What happened in Pitts not gonna happen in Saint Louis

624
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 5: the same way it happened in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: No, no question, and it should because, like I keep

626
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Speaker 1: saying that, people know. And it's ironic that the stripper

627
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Speaker 1: who accused the Duke Lacrosse kids of rape, who just

628
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: made it up, then murdered her boyfriend she got out

629
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Speaker 1: of jail today. Isn't this a reminder of just how

630
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: the media can f things up?

631
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Speaker 2: And I'm in the media and I hate the media.

632
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Speaker 2: Right now, which club does she work at?

633
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Speaker 3: Because I want to avoid that club.

634
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Speaker 2: Sheet she doesn't now, Tim has always a play what's.

635
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Speaker 5: The background check like for strip clubs in North Carolina?

636
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: Exactly?

637
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Speaker 1: I can tell you for a fact, if you murder

638
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: somebody here, they'll still.

639
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Speaker 2: Let you work.

640
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Speaker 1: Tim in fact, I could give an example. Tim has

641
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Speaker 1: always great stuff. We'll talk to you on the podcast

642
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Speaker 1: Sunday Night.

643
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Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk to you soon, Mark.

644
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: That's Tim Ben's Broaklist by Calucy Chevrolet. And I'm not kidding.

645
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I could give an example up next. And I'm going

646
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: too far off on the tangents. I've gone too far

647
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Speaker 1: off on But that's too bad, because there's never been

648
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Speaker 1: a better time to not listen.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna