WEBVTT - 12-11-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.360 Do want to be an Americano. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.320 Here we go, come before the storm, so to speak, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.319 so to speak slowly on seven hundred wls winter weather 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:13.440 starts to move in. Got till tonight, then all hall 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.360 is going to break loose. So between now and then, 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.680 it's me and you this morning. And one of the 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.320 topics of interest today, at least that I found interesting, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.439 is the end of dual citizenship in America. I don't 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.200 actually have the numbers in front of you. Probably if 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.400 I were better at my job, i'd looked that up. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.800 But anyway, Bernie Moreno, our own Bernie Moreno, has proposed 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.159 the Exclusive Citizenship Act of twenty twenty five, and it 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.920 literally is ignited one of the most explosive civil liberities 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.240 debates in a long time. So dual citizenship is fully 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.080 legal right now, but the bill threatens to force millions 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.320 of Americans into a one year ultimatum. So you'd have 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.919 to make up your mind, and that is to abandon 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.160 your US passport and lose your citizenship automatically. You've choose 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.480 one team or the other. No more dual citizens in 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.920 the United States. And we'll get how that works in 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.760 just a second here, But first on the show is 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.520 Augustina Virgara Seed. On the show, she writes with the 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.000 Hill on RCPs, I'll say a young voice is senior 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.120 contributor Augustina, good morning, how are you? 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.319 Good morning, Scott, Thank you so much for having me. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.240 Yeah, I got you. So let's just jump in. Let 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.240 me run down the list and kind of the people 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.440 aren't following this. You may not be following this entirely. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.240 So here's what we had to do. Correct me if 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.720 I'm wrong, if I miss anything here too, It'd be 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.640 unlawful to hold US citizenship and any foreign citizenship at 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.000 the same time, and it'd take one hundred and take 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.880 effect one hundred and eighty days after enactment. So for 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.400 future citizens, basically what happened is anybody who voluntary acquires 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.800 foreign citizenship after the effective date automatically loses their US citizenship, 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.680 and you would obtain a new foreign passport would also 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.360 lose your US citizenship if you're a current dual citizen. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.480 There's a one year deadline, so within one year of enactment, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.880 you have to choose a renounce your foreign citizenship to 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.840 the State Department or be renounce your US citizenship to 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.960 department of homeland security. And if you don't choose, then 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.280 you by default will give up your US citizenship. So 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.720 anyone who is born with a dual nationality, naturalized US citizens, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.880 who retained original citizenship, Americans abroad who required foreign nationality 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.160 through marriage or dissent or naturalization, that's what's in play here. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.519 Did I miss anything important? Those all the facets of this. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.800 Yeah, that's essentially what the BLOW is trying to do. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.200 Yes, could you tell us why? I mean, I get immigration, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.800 I understand that, I understand that there's a concerned about 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.600 who's in our country. We need to know who that is. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.600 But and I suppose that there's a concern that someone 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.959 who holds citizenship from China or Russia could be working 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.040 in sensitive US positions would be an example. I think 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.040 that's a valid worry. But why aren't we addressing it 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.200 in that fashion as opposed to just a blanket uster 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.560 them philosophy. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.720 Yeah, so it's a good question why this is allegedly 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.040 needed or and why. Now I read the bill, and 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.440 the bill does not have any really substantial destination of 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.919 why this is needed. So the build friends dual citizenship 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.000 as a potential source of alleged conflicts of interest or 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.040 divided loyalties, but the bill never defines what that means. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.160 Those are essentially just buzzwords that really, if without any 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:33.519 sort of inclination, really don't mean much. So I think 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.920 that really this is a solutional search for a problem. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.600 I don't think that dual citizenship of multiple citizenship in 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.040 America is a problem that needs Congress to step in 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.840 and fix. Really, dual citizenship does not represent a threat 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:51.000 of any kind. And people who call dual citizenship, by 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:55.640 myself from one such person, I do not have any 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.640 sort of do not represent a thread or anything into 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.640 a America. But you just said that, Okay, maybe there 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.440 might be you know, sensitive positions that require that someone 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.040 being native born, like, for example, a constitution mandage that 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.240 a person who is naturalized cannot become pressed in the 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.159 United States, or you know that requires really you know, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.320 that that person has only one citizenship. And okay, that's great, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.320 let's address those positions specifically. But there's really no reason 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.680 to try to impose only one citizenship on the rest 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:28.679 of Americans. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.440 Yeah, and if you're worried about you know, spying, and 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.920 that's what this is, you know, maybe that would prevent 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.599 that summer, I think you're still going to wind up 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.640 getting you know, sources and the like. I mean, look 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.080 at how many people have committed to reason who are 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.000 naturally born US citizens don't hold those those and there 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.080 are US citizens they are born here, their families here, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.080 who have committed these types of crimes in the past. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.080 So that doesn't seem to be good indicator if it's 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.320 a national security issue. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:58.039 Yeah, absolutely, there's really no This is not a threat. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.479 And like when I judge bills and laws like, I 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.719 think they should pass one big test, which is does 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.680 this bill or this no do they protect the visual rights? 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.440 Like if there a need to pass this bill in 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.039 order to protect the visual rights as or constitution mand made. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.880 If the answer is no, then we have a problem. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.240 And I really don't think that this bill is protecting 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.880 anyone's in the visual rights because there's really no threat 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.560 from holding multiple citizenships. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.960 Right, the fourteenth Amendment is pretty clear anyone born in 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.839 the US as a citizen. We'd have to change if 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.920 someone's born in America, say to I don't know of 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:38.000 Canadian parents. Does Canada automatically confer citizenship at birth? And 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.240 how can Congress force that person to choose without violating 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.599 birthright citizenship. That's that's going to be a tricky one 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.200 to navigate. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.720 Yes, I think the bill postes many challenges in implementation, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.400 and I do think that it's a constitutional because of 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.719 the Fourteenth Amendment, because what it asks, like you mentioned earlier, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.000 what it asked Americans to do is if they hold 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.720 another citizenship, even if they are native born and they 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:07.400 have American citizenship, because of the fourteenth Amendment that you mentioned, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.880 it's forcing them to choose, and if they don't choose, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:16.720 then their American citizenship is taken away, and that is 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.479 not constitutional. You cannot take citizenship away from a native 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.880 born American a lex e commit tritism, which not choosing 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.720 a citizenship is not an act of treason. I think 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.039 for instance of like you said that people who have 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.040 who are native born Americans and who have dual citizenship 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.880 because of their parents who might be from another country. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.040 I always think of this example. There's a you know, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.919 am rat and Brown, the wide receiver from the Detroit Lions. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.640 He has dual citizenship. He's American and he's German because 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.280 his mother is German. So we're asking Amaranth and Brown 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.640 and millions of other Americans who are native born to 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.360 choose nationality for really no reason, because it does not 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.160 pose any sort of stress. They do not post any 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.880 sort of threat to America, and I'm not violating anyone's 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.159 individual rights. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.840 I wonder how this is going to work, Augustina with 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:15.600 there's countries like for example, Ireland, Italy, in Israel in particular, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.920 that actively encourage Americans to claim citizenship because of their 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.760 ancestry because of a Jewish law. This would essentially then 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.920 force those Americans to reject those ties. We know that 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.360 the ties and the support that this administration gives Israel, 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.200 that's not a good look. Or do they just say, well, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.240 unless you're from Israel, it's a different story. Which take 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.800 it very well, and it just waters down the intent, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.560 whatever intent that is of this particular proposal. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.200 Yes, that's one of the many reasons why I think 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.320 this is really not going to work, including because look, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.880 for example, I become an American this year, in July 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.120 of this year, and I could talk half an hour 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.440 about what that means to me and whylusively or my 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.360 life to be an American. But if I had to 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.320 choose between my two nationalities. I can't because I am 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:12.200 originally from Argentina and Argentina does not renounce the citizenship 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.160 because I was born there. So that would mean like 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.360 if this bill were to pass, that would mean that 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.440 I would have to give up being an American because 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.440 my country of birth, which I didn't choose, does not 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.320 allow me to renounce my citizenship. And how is that fair? 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.840 Like I worked for decades to become an American, and 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.480 I'm a proud American, and I took a note of 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.800 allegiance to this country. Why would someone want to take 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.240 that away from me? And I have literally no choice. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.080 And there are other countries that also don't allow the 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.080 renunciation of theirs of the citizenship. I think Costa Rica 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.040 is one such country. And those people like me would 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.320 have absolutely no option. And there's people who have ties 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.800 to other countries Israel or whatever other country, and there 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.920 is no reason to make them choose. Plenty of reasons 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.360 why people would hold multiple citizenships because they were born there, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.280 because of coosural ties, because of tax reasons, sometimes because 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.199 they are American and their spouse and they live abroad 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.040 with their spouse, and they for several reasons referred to 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.839 have that citizenship as well, and there's really no reason 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.680 to make them choose. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.079 Augustina Virgara Seed on the show She Reach to the 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.440 Hill RCP, is a young voice of Senior contributor and 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.719 talking about Senator Bernie Moreno's exclusive Citizenship app a citizenship 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.200 Act of twenty twenty five that essentially would divide Americans 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.600 a sense that if you hold dual citizenship here, you 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.160 have to renounce one of those, either with us or 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.600 against US. I guess as the mindset here, but you're talking, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.120 I mean little millions of millions of people like yourself 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.480 that hold dual citizenship, and it's probably difficult enough for you. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.640 But you recently became a citizen of the country. I've 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.880 seen it. Why Why the hell would you want to 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.320 come here? 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.880 Why wouldn't I? I could, I could say so much 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.960 about this, but essentially, I've been in love with America 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.920 and America's promise and what American represents since I basically 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.040 first became aware of the existence of America when I 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:18.760 was a little kid, and growing up, I realized that 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.920 America is special. America is different from any other countries. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.080 America is different from the country where I was born 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.560 and the values. Growing up, I started studying American history 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.640 and American political philosophy, and I realized what an incredible 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:39.320 achievement the American Founding was historically philosophically, it truly is 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.840 unique in human history. And that is not just an 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.880 abstract idea. That is something that we see reflected in 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.560 the freedoms that we enjoy every day. America is literally, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.160 and I don't want and I say this knowing the 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.120 full meaning of it. America is literally the best most 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.440 moral country in the world in Founding principles, and I 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.760 wanted to be part of that. I wanted to live 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:10.080 here and enjoy the freedoms that our amazing Founding values 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.600 allows us to have. And truly, I am so so 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.959 proud of in America. And it's only an honor. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.160 And I would think that that sediment you just so 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.960 articularly describe describes a lot of people who hold dual citizenships. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.640 And I'm sure someone's listening right now. And the case 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.840 you just made for becoming in America, which is a 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.520 difficult thing. It takes a tremendous amount of effort. We're 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:31.880 just born to do it. You had to work to 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.760 get here. I don't know how we could tell someone 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:35.040 like you. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:40.720 No, yeah, I know that, you know, maybe not everybody 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.920 has studied in detail the political philosophy the United States, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.720 but you know, in an inclusive manner, they do. I 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.199 know so many people who are either immigrants to America 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.360 or that are naturalized citizens, and they do love this 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.880 country so much, and they do value the freedom that 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.040 we have, and this is their country that they actually 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.720 chose immignate into America, as I'm sure that many people 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.520 at this point. No, it's not easy to do. It's 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.360 really really hard to do it. It's really hard to 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.120 do legally, which you know is the only path to 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.520 becoming a citizen. And we go through all that trouble 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.960 because we really really value this country. This country is 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:23.200 worth it. So yeah, it's really unfair, I think, to 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.640 you know, to impose this very onerous requirement on people 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.520 like me who truly love this country. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.600 Yeah. And the other thing, too is the practical implementation. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.280 I mean, okay, it gives you, if this is an 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.480 acted in past, it gives people like yourself to those citizens, 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.280 one year to pick the United States or the country 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.880 you also hold citizenship in. But I mean, how do 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.040 you even do this administratively? It's not like we have 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:53.560 a comprehensive database of people who hold foreign citizenship and 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.240 the light we know you have a you know, your 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.000 old status here, But I mean, how do you even 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.120 go through the notification Prouz? 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:05.960 It seems impossible, yes, including because there is no registry 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.520 of who olds the world citizenship for multiple citizenship in America, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.920 So how are we going to know? And yeah, it 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.920 would be a bureaucratic nightmare to do that, and it 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.120 would be so expensive, it will require so many resources, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.680 touch player money in order to just exclude people who 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.080 for whatever reason can't make a choice like myself or 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.679 just for whatever reason do not want to make a choice. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.800 But they are just as American as anybody else. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.520 Yeah, and you're talking about a sizeable amount of the 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.720 other element here too, is that. Okay, let's say maybe 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.040 you want to Agustina. You go, okay, I'll be in America. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.360 I'm going to renounce my Argentinian citizenship. You renounce that, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.480 But what if the foreign country is simply refused to 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.079 process that or just it's like okay, well fine you 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.679 want to announce. It's going to cost you I don't 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.720 know two hundred thousand dollars to do that, or it 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.160 just takes a lot longer than a year for them 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.400 to process all that stuff. With this, you can lose 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.720 your US citizenship. There's no fault here on I mean sure, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.360 that's a pretty big do process violation. I would think 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.320 would you agree. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.240 Yes, absolutely agree with that because the status of the 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.840 other citizenship has nothing to do with whatever the US 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.440 government decides decides to do. And like in the case 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.960 of like, like I said, like myself, I literally cannot 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.520 legally renounce my citizenship because Argentina does not allow it. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.840 I will never stop being in Argentinian even if I try, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.760 because it is illegal. I literally cannot legally renounce the citizenship. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.920 So what do we do there? Should I these trips 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.200 with my citizenship because of you know, the Argentinia law 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.240 and I never chose to be born there. That's that's 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.800 not right. And yeah, like you said, it can take 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.920 a long time to you know, renownce some some other 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.240 country citizenship, and it might be really expensive and there 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.240 might be you know, may require you to go there. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.120 Like there's so many things that can happen that you know, 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.600 it's not a straightforward process and that one year deadline 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.800 is really just not going to work. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.080 Yeah, I went down think here, because you're talking about 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.480 millions of people here too and trying to have them 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.680 process that would be extremely difficult, I think in a 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.160 lot of these cases. So how much of this, then, Augustine, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.440 do you think this is actually? Is this just political posturing? 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.520 Is this his bluster? And I mean Bernie Marina proposes this, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.200 but does he actually think it as a chance of 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.280 passing or just does it to offer I guess the 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.760 core a gesture of saying, hey, I'm getting tough on 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.280 immigrants here in the United States. It doesn't seem like, 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.880 you know, there's a big movement to get this pass. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.240 But along all the details we just laid out and 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.440 probably countless more make it feel like it's an impossibility. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:38.400 Is this just posturing? 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.280 I think there has to be some of that, because, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.400 like I said, I read the bill. There's really four 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.960 pages and that's not a lot. And I don't think honestly, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.280 when I read the bill, I was expecting to find, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.000 you know, a long explanation why we need this. I 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.200 was expecting to find a longer explanation of how is 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.080 this actually going to work, the build laxing details, and 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.080 that makes me think that there is not a lot 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.720 of effort put into actually trying to make this to 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:12.200 persuade uh, you know, the Congress to pass this bill. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.000 So and I know there's obviously there's going to be 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.520 if this bill is debated, there's going to be like 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.960 a whole debate and they're going to explain what it's about. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.800 But like, I don't see it as a genuine effort 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.560 to solve a problem because there is no such problem. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.960 Like I said, I think this also comes at a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:36.320 time where immigration is a it's a hot topic. Obviously 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.000 there is you know a lot of nationalism and rejection 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:44.560 of anything foreign, including people. And it comes also at 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.600 a time whereas alconom administration has been also weaponizing not 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.400 a citizenship as well. You know, they have threatened some people, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.360 including el Mask himself, from you know, you know, away 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.640 their citizenship. So it's I think a way of playing 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.160 into this nationalism that is an a vogue in unfortunate 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.160 in America right now. And I really, I really think 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.840 I think this is really awful because even if it 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.320 doesn't pass, but it will not pass, I can guarantee 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.919 you that this is scaring a lot of people. I 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.879 have gotten so many messages from people saying, Hey, am 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.800 I going to have to renounce my US city? What's 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.920 going what's going on? I don't know what to do. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.920 It's really scaring people. And some of the media also, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.400 you know, does not do not help because they frame 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:30.880 it in a way as if sties were a fact. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.240 But this is just a bill. But yeah, it's scaring 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.720 a lot of people. And I don't I think it's 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.960 actually introducing this debate right now. It's actually a disservice. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.880 I agree, I agree with. I guess it's it's politics 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.919 is worse in my opinion, it's just more posturing with 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.840 no intent of actually anything passed. But it's a gesture 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.399 to whom I don't know. But I think the country 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.800 is better people like yourself, you know, provided your you're 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.320 paying taxes, you're working, you're educated, you're contributing. That's what 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.840 we need. I gotta go. I appreciate the time. Augustina 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.000 Vergara Seed from the Hill and RCP and Young Voices, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.359 thanks again, thank you so much, appreciate it. Let me 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.080 get a news update, and of course we get the weather. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.199 We'll get the latest timelines out for you here just 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:15.679 seconds away, slowly seven hundred ww go but to day 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.359 here slowey seven hundred w welw ready to go. Snow 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.520 on the way again. That winter weather advisory kicks in 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.439 at seven o'clock to night tonight and then two to 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.120 four plus overnight, and then it ends at ten o'clock tomorrow, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.360 and then we get a break Friday night, and then 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.399 Saturday we get more snow. So it's just gotta come 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:38.720 and come and come. Here we go, Here we go. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.640 You're going if you're going to the game on Sunday, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.040 better dress and a layer. I didn't know the layers 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.879 would be accurate. You need a cocoon if you're going 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.440 to be out in that stuff. Anyway, we got football 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:56.880 on Sunday, and I'm also speaking of football, absolutely got 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.200 the popcorn out. What's going on in Michigan or showing 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.159 Moore their head coat? Coach fired late yesterday, so in 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.399 the morning he's game planning for a bowl game. I 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.400 don't care, bleu. And then he finds out he's fired 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:14.720 late in the afternoon, and at around four o'clock he 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.960 picks up a he goes to I guess an assistant coaches. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.440 I think it's an assistant coaches home and holds a 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:25.440 knife to him. Later, Moore is arrested by police. He's 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.960 in custody. So at four forty three is when Michigan 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.520 announced that he is no longer the head coach because 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:36.520 there's some interdisciplinary things going and he's a history of 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.720 getting jammed up in situations spygape in one of them, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:45.920 but also allegedly involved with a subordinate. Now he's married 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:51.120 and has three daughters. Also, if you follow this, look 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.480 at social media guys like guy liking all these instagram 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.680 and now, which is fine, but also OnlyFans models, which 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:04.879 is you know, amateur porn. Basically, this wasn't a flag 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.960 until after they lose to Ohis get throttled by Ohio State, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.240 and now you're out of the bowl games. Of course 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.240 you have the signing period everything else, like now it's like, well, 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.520 we concluded our investigation and found those guys dirty. But 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.080 I will say, and if you're an Ohio State Buckeye fan, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.760 you're probably still smiling from the big win over Michigan. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.560 Maybe not so much from what happened with Indiana, but 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.400 nonetheless you're still smiling to some degree about that. This 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.399 probably puts a little more bounce at your step. Now, 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.000 you don't No one was killed on when it was hurt. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:34.960 It was like one of those cases. Isn't like what 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:39.240 happened with Penn State with Paterna, right, This is just 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.000 someone who can't control himself. Apparently how he rose the 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.600 level and they dad didn't know about a lot of 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.320 this stuff as it was going on too, because he's 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.480 had more than one scandal associated with his name. So 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.720 you know, just watching this whole thing develop, it's going 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.560 to be you know, get the popcorn out, Get the 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.879 popcorn out for sure, something else. Speaking of getting the 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.199 popcorn out, this case, this fascinates me. And this is 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.280 certainly more tragic. So he had this thirty five year 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.960 old man from California who died aboard the Royal Caribbean 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.360 Navigator of the Seas last December last year. Now it's 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.480 come out that he was served at least thirty three 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.320 alcoholic drinks in a matter of hours while showing obvious 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:22.120 signs of intoxication. And so while intoxicated, he got lost 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.000 trying to find his cabin and became agitated there's video 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.399 of him trying to kick the door into a I 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.800 don't know one of the burths. Security actually had to 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.600 tackle him and subdue him because he's a big dude 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.240 with their full body weight. Had to use multiple cans 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.560 of pepper spray on him and he subsequently died in 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.120 the care of Royal Caribbean staff. 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:41.280 Well. 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.239