1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning, Fan Outdoors, 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations. 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host, 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand. 8 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan Outdoors, A good morning to you. Yep, 9 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: it is a Saturday, so congratulations. If you're a nine 10 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: to fiver and five days a week, you have two 11 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: days of reprieve that you can recharge R and R 12 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll get you aimed in that direction. And 13 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: if you're as a lot of people are, quite a 14 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: few people, they're driving back and forth from the hinter 15 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: land to work in the Twin Cities. 16 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: We're hoping we can keep you company too. 17 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of company, the man formerly known as mister Saint 18 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Pierre has graced us yet again with his presence, and 19 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I hope. I don't know if it's long lived or 20 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: if it's a short short term stay. 21 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: I was thinking you mentioned the folks that work nine 22 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: to five? Who are to nine to five anymore? Who 23 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: starts at nine? There was a song I know Dolly Parton, 24 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: but at least I think it was Dolly Parton. But 25 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: I don't know anybody that starts their day at nine? 26 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: Do you well? 27 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you son of a gun. Sometimes I started town two. Yeah, 28 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: I bet you do. The retired life, yeah, tired life, yeah, 29 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: a lot of tired life. But good to be. 30 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: Back back from Iowa. I had I swung to Iowa 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: last weekend? Was speaking you? 32 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: You your plan was to swing all the way down 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: to Florida. 34 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: Uh, that's true. 35 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: I was supposed to go to Florida, You're right at 36 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: the beginning of last week and and then to Iowa 37 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: and then back home. But I canceled the Florida element 38 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: to answer questions about Peasant Fest and quil Classic after 39 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: all the unrest and the Twin. 40 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 3: Cities two weeks ago. You heard of Farida? Farida? 41 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: Is that a town in southern Minnesota down by Worthing. No, No, 42 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: it's uh, it's not far from the cabin. How's it 43 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: Parda Parada? I don't know, I haven't No, I'll take 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: you there. And is that where the tornado hit a 45 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: couple of years ago, Okay, I do remember that. 46 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and knocked all the trees and everything. I do 47 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: remember that. 48 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was the AA the storm right across 49 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: the road from Lake Reno, Okay, And Maple Lake is 50 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: right there also. But yeah, anyway, I don't think they 51 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: have an airstrip so that you can land a big 52 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: plane on, but you could go down there if you 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: want to pretend you're visiting. 54 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: So when you said Florida, that's what you thought of 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: was fairy. Okay, So I do have a funny story 56 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: from Iowa for you. 57 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's more about more about me than it is I. 58 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: Oh, you got a ticket, Lane, No, I didn't get 59 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: a ticket, but so I Over the past year, Captain, 60 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: I've been struggling with being able to read like notes 61 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: when I'm public speaking and then look up at the 62 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: crowd and actually see the crowd, right, So you know, 63 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: I'd have to take my glass off, glasses off to 64 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: see the notes, and then put my glasses. 65 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: On to look at the crowd. I've reached that age. 66 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: So I I got new set of glasses from my Yes, yeah, 67 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: put yeah old half glasses. 68 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: On your nose. 69 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: Or on your hat when you're talking. So I got 70 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: new set. 71 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 4: Of glasses with bifocals, and I decided Iowa was going 72 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: to be my inaugural wearing of the eyeglasses. So I 73 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: get up in the morning and get ready for my speech, 74 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: my presentation in Iowa, put on my bifocals, and I 75 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: get up on the stage and I tell you what, 76 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: cap I've never done acid, but it felt like I 77 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: dropped acid. 78 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 5: I was. 79 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Having the hardest time just keeping everything still. You know, 80 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I could see my notes that I 81 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: could see the audience, but the rest of the world 82 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: was moving, and uh, I successfully, well, obviously that's going on. 83 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 4: And I, you know, kind of like, hey, folks, I'm 84 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: struggling up here today. But it went pretty well. A 85 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: little self deprecating humor always helps the situation. 86 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: I remember. 87 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: I remember when my wife got bifocals for the first time, 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: and I remember her stepping and she cussed the floor 89 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: wasn't where she was. 90 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: Oh my yeah. 91 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: Well, so I did talk to the eye doctor, so 92 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: I have my prescription hasn't changed for you know, being 93 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: able to see in the distance, So I can't blame 94 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: that for any misses with the shotgun this season. So 95 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: I have regular I have my regular glasses for everyday 96 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: hunting and stuff, and then I have buyfocals for public 97 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: speaking now, so I'm taking baby steps towards retirement. Apparently, 98 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: laser buddy, I don't think I have a lazy eye, 99 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: so I don't think they can fix that. 100 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well welcome. 101 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. 102 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm wearing them begin today, so things start moving on me. 103 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: I'll let you know. 104 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: You look clear? Crystal clear? Though, do you look crystal clear? 105 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'll go get you. That was Iowa. That 106 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: was Iowa. 107 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, we had a couple of nice days this last week. 108 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Hy today twenty six degrees, and I'm going to forego 109 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: everything else. The only good thing about that is from 110 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: last one week ago when Brett and I were solo, 111 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: we have gained twenty minutes of daylight. 112 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: Really, twenty minutes in twenty that's fabulous. 113 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: I agree. 114 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: And if it does feel like we're progressing towards spring now, well, just. 115 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: You know, we get into the mid thirties and what 116 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: a reprieve. 117 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: It's going to be a little bit chilly today, but 118 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: then it warms up again to morrow. 119 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's all good stuff. But twenty minutes is 120 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: a good thing. And you'll be happy to know that 121 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: the bass Master Elite series has begun day three today 122 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: and if they do still catch baths, there is still 123 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: open water. But it was down on Lake Gunnersville and 124 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: the cold weather got there too. Where's Gunnersville Lake gunners 125 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: I think it is at Alabama, and if not, somebody 126 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 2: will tell us anyway. But so I got to watch 127 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: bass fishing for a while and our friend Seth Fighter 128 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: did well the first day, didn't do too well yesterday 129 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: and thought he didn't make the cut because the top 130 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: fifty get the fish. Today he found out after the 131 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: fact when the weigh in was said and done that 132 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: he was the fiftieth angler. 133 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: So keeps going. 134 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: He does keep going, which means he also gets a 135 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: check too. 136 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: So super Bowl or bass Master, I think bath Master 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: it could be over by then. 138 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: But anyway, and also I think, well, let's take an 139 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: early pause because coming right around the corner from Yellowstone 140 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: National Park. 141 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: Oh, he's calling in from Yellowstone. Yeah, I did not 142 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: know that. 143 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: Element he is in Yellowstone and we will call him 144 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: because he's not in his studio in him being mister 145 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Stan Tequila. And he's been out there for I think 146 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: believe three weeks now, so it'll be kind of interesting. 147 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: I think he's scheduled to come back to Minnesota real soon, 148 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: maybe even today, I'm not sure. But we'll take that 149 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: pause and be back with Stan. And also we are 150 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: going to have the editor of gun Dog Magazine and 151 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: a number of other magazines she's associated with, Miss Calli Parmley. 152 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: He got it, and I'm looking forward to that gun 153 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: Dog Magazine one of my favorites. 154 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: Do you get that delivered to the cabin or to 155 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: the house, to the house, but at all it's always 156 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: at the cabin. 157 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been a gun Dog reader for a long time. 159 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: And you haven't met Calli before. 160 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: I have not. 161 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: That's what I thought, because she's going to moderate a 162 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: panel that you and I are on. Oh my, you 163 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 4: didn't know that, Alvin. Huh No, So this is the introduction. 164 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, she'll probably get bored with my voice 165 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: with the Golden Tones, Billy, I have a tendency to 166 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: speak my mind. 167 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: To sometimes here we yell anyway. 168 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: So let's take that pause and we'll be back with 169 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: mister Stan. Tequila right after this, Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, 170 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: joined now by author, naturalist and photographer Stan Tequila. 171 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: Whether it's in Minnesota, Glasgow, Africa. 172 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: He's always in search of all things wild and natural. 173 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves. 174 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: And you thought the. 175 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Cat knew the outdoors. Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on 176 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: Fan Outdoors. Stand. Good morning, sir. 177 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 5: Good morning. 178 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 6: What are you doing today? 179 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: It's early, man, There's all kinds of opportunities for it 180 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: to go down the wherever. But so far, so good. 181 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: We'll just take it down comes. Where are you at? 182 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 7: Well? 183 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: If that's even earlier here, it's only five fifteen here 184 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: this morning, and I'm still in Montana, Okay, and still 185 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: in Wyoming, still leading photo tours in Yellowstone. It's supposed 186 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 5: to be a winter tour emphasis I supposed to be. 187 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: You can run it into some pretty mild weather, sunshine 188 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 5: and the thirties and forties, and down in the lower 189 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 5: parts like places like Bozeman, they're close to sixty degrees 190 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: every day. 191 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you can send that up this way any time, 192 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: my friend. 193 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know. I honestly, these winter excursions 194 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: need to be need to have, you know, trying to 195 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: kill you weather. You know, the weather that is so nasty, 196 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: that's what we need. Yet really drives you know, moves 197 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: the wildlife around and get things going and makes for 198 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: great photography. But sunshine and forty. 199 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 6: Does not. 200 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: With just the opposite, you know, when we got down 201 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: to twenties something below zero and called much colder up north, 202 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: do the animals just kind of hunker down? But you 203 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: said they have to eat and they have to do everything. 204 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: Well, of course, it depends on the species. Our raccoons 205 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 5: and possums things like that will hold. 206 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 6: Up for this is not a hibernation. 207 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 5: They're just kind of found a protected area and they're 208 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 5: gonna hold up for a while. They can do that 209 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: for several weeks and you know before they're gonna wait 210 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: for the weather to change and then they're gonna come 211 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: out and start moving about and going about the business again. 212 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: So I mean, but other animals, like small birds, they 213 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 5: need to get out and find food every single day, 214 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: so they're going to be out there whether it's forty 215 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: below or you know, forty above. So it really depends 216 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 5: on the species, and they're all well adapted to stay 217 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 5: you know, as we all know, as I've said probably 218 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: a million times, either you adapt to the weather or 219 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: you die, right, and these animals have done a good 220 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 5: job of adapting. 221 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: When when we. 222 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: See gray squirrels, I'll see them out in the yard, 223 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: running on the fence or whatever. 224 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: Some of them look so plump and all just really big. 225 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Are they pregnant or are they just all fluffed up 226 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: for the cold? 227 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all fluffed up against the cold. I don't 228 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: believe there's a well that's not true in squirrels. 229 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: You don't. 230 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: You can't see females that are that are pregnant. You know, 231 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: you when you see that with humans, you have an 232 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 5: obvious uh bump that is visible. But with things like 233 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: squirrels and stuff like that, they they the having a 234 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 5: a liability like that where it would be in the 235 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: way of navigating your way through the tree tops and 236 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: things like that would be it would be a real 237 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 5: problem for it. So you don't really see it in 238 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: in those those types of animals. 239 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: What in the dogs that I've had puppies with, they 240 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: get huge and they get kind of waddling around. 241 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you can see that in some of 242 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: the species. I was thinking like horses and yeah, you know, 243 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: dogs and things like that, you can see that, but 244 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: in these smaller animals, you don't, you know, you don't 245 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 5: see that, and you can't really guess. I was thinking 246 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: more along the lines of foxes too. Usually you don't 247 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: see that, and the females are usually in a den 248 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: and kind of laying low for that period of time, 249 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: and so it's not you know, you can imagine it 250 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: has to be adapted to be able to still continue 251 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: to survive in the wild. 252 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, when will you be making your journey back? 253 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: Well, ProAb be back midweek next week. And meanwhile, I'm 254 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 5: proud to announce that I'm going to be hopefully a 255 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: good great horn owl grandfather. 256 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 8: I was wondering, hopefully people are following along with my 257 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 8: great horn owl. 258 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: I've had this great pair of greyhorn owls dancing. This 259 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 5: is their fifth winter that they've nested, and I put 260 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: a camera on it this year, and so people can 261 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: tune into a live stream on YouTube to follow along. 262 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: She's already laid one egg and is incubating it, and 263 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: today should be the day where the second egg is laid, 264 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: So I'm hoping to get that. Hopefully that will happen, 265 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 5: and people can go to YouTube and just search up 266 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: nature smart Media and it'll come up and you can 267 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: see the live stream, or go to my website at 268 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 5: naturesmart dot com and at the bottom of the opening 269 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: page there's a link to go to the Great Hornowel. 270 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: But there's also all kinds of videos that you have 271 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: listed that yes, people can follow and get the whole 272 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: play by play. 273 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Leading up to this point, I didn't 274 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: know when I was going to turn on the live stream, 275 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: and then when she laid the egg, it was like quick, hurry, 276 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: put on the live stream. So now, having never done 277 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 5: this before and doing it on a shoe string budget, 278 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: you're going to find a few glitches here there. And 279 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: I have noticed that it occasionally freezes up overnight and 280 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: so I'll need to do those kind of resets in 281 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: the morning, it seems like, and uh, but then it 282 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: runs pretty well after that, So bear with me. I'm 283 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: I'm learning and I'm trying. And my my great friend 284 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: Tom is uh, he's my it guy, and he's he's 285 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 5: hard at this all the time, trying to get all 286 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: the bugs that worked out of it and things. So 287 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: Tom Lawrence, the guys, a prince, I'm. 288 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: Telling you, so, when the the oll egg hatches, will 289 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: you go on your live stream and snow smoke a 290 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: stogie after you become a grandfather? 291 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 5: Yes, I say probably not. I get the sentiment about it. 292 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 8: Well. 293 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: We Eric and I and Chad too have talked since 294 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: you talked about putting cameras in wood duck houses. And 295 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: you're obviously pretty good at the cameras on flying squirrels 296 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: and other stuff. We're talking about putting a camera in 297 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: a couple of wood duck houses that we have, and yes, 298 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: is it probably needs to get done fairly soon. 299 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 6: I would think. 300 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 5: I would think anytime between now and mid March would 301 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 5: be the time to do that, because you don't want 302 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: to be messing with them after that because we have, 303 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: you know, some kind of early spring or something. The 304 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: wood ducks are coming back. You want to have this 305 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 5: in place, and usually you know about the time you're 306 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: cleaning out your wood duck boxes normally, and this is 307 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: something that should be done every year. You should get 308 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 5: up there. I usually do it when it's you know, 309 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: the ground still frozen and so you can get a 310 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: ladder and be able to get in there clean out 311 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 5: the last year's eggs and all the different stuff, refresh 312 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: the wood chips that are inside, make sure everything's repaired, 313 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: thing's broken, and get ready for him. And you know, 314 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: back when I was at the nature Center, I had 315 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 5: fifteen wood duck boxes there that I have to go 316 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: around to, and then at my property now I only 317 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: have I guess six or seven, so it's not too bad. 318 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: And I did most of my last fall because I 319 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 5: just happened to have a day I was repairing a 320 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 5: I noticed there was some repair that needed to be 321 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 5: done on a wood duck box, so I started doing 322 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: that one and I thought, well, I'll just you know, 323 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: freshen this up, get it all set. And then I 324 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 5: actually went and did all of them at that time. 325 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 5: So I'm going to be all set to go come 326 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 5: come spring when the wood ducks show up. 327 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: If a squirrel takes up residence and they need to 328 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: be evicted. One I learned, don't stick your head in 329 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: the side of the box, right, No I did. I 330 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: open it up and it was it was occupied. I 331 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: almost fell off the ladder backwards because I wasn't expecting 332 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: that he wasn't expecting me. But if they have taken 333 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: up residence. Does the odor that's in there, Does that 334 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: make a difference, So you need to clean that out 335 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: other than putting fresh bedding and stuff in it. 336 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: So that would be the reason why you'd want to 337 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: make sure when you install your wood duck boxes that 338 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 5: you install them correctly. You're not just going out and 339 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: slap them up against some tree, you know, driving a 340 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 5: bunch of screws in there, and then saying all right, 341 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 5: that's good for wood ducks, you know, because it's just 342 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: not gonna the squirrels will take it. That's, you know, 343 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: all there is to it. I have all my wood 344 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 5: duck boxes on four by four poles that have set 345 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: into the ground, and then put a squirrel baffle on 346 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 5: the pole so that squirrels cannot get up there. And 347 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: then more importantly what I do, because mine right on 348 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: the edge of the woodlands and things, is I trim 349 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: the branches of the trees around them, because the squirrels 350 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: can jump upwards of like ten feet to get onto 351 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: that box. So you got to, you know, you have 352 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 5: to do a little site preparation to make this work. 353 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: And then when you do that, you don't have any 354 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: problems with squirrels and uh, and then the you know, 355 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: the boxes are waiting for the wood ducks, which is 356 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: really your intended to think. Now, if you don't mind squirrels, 357 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 5: if you're not cleaning out your boxes and things like that, 358 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 5: and you know, if you put it on a tree, 359 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: then and you don't mind squirrels, and then that's fine. 360 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: But if if you're really intent, I'm trying to get 361 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: wood ducks or hooded in mergansers or common golden eyes 362 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 5: depending on where you live. If you're in northern Minnesota, 363 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 5: you can get the you know, common golden eyes nesting 364 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 5: in there or just about anywhere with hooded merganzers. Then 365 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: you know you want to go ahead and make sure 366 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: that these things are protected and installed in the right area. 367 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 6: That that is a big part of it. 368 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 5: Same thing like, for example, if you're going to put 369 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 5: up something like bluebird boxes and you want to attract bluebirds, 370 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 5: well make sure you put it in bluebird habitat. 371 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 6: If you don't put in bluebird tap. 372 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 5: If you got all wooded lot it's all trees, and 373 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: you try to put a bluebird boxes, you're gonna get friends, 374 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: or you're gonna get you know, different species or squirrels 375 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: or mice or something like that. So you got to 376 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: place the boxes in the areas that have the best 377 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: habitat for what it is you're trying to attract. 378 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: So what about because we had we had some wood 379 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: ducks nests really high in a tree, I mean just 380 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: super high, but they're in a in a hole in 381 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: the tree and are used here after year. But obviously 382 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: they're not cleaned out. 383 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 5: You're talking about a natural cavities that we're saying, yeah, 384 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 5: oh yeah, well yeah, that is you know, that's going 385 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 5: to be up for grabs and they're going to have 386 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: to fight it out as to who takes those natural 387 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: cavities that are high up the tree, typically wood ducks. 388 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: The other problem with those ones like that is raccoons. 389 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 5: Oftentimes we'll get in there and uh, you know, pull 390 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: the eggs or grab the mom wood duck. That is 391 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 5: natural and that is what nature. You know how nature works. 392 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 5: But if you want to try to, you know, do 393 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: it to directly benefit the wood duck or they're herd 394 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: of merganza, you want to make sure you put it 395 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: in the right place and do the right things by it. 396 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 5: And there's a million and one you know, websites with 397 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 5: you know, plans on how to build them and how 398 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: to mount them, how to install them, all that stuff. 399 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: It's it's just. 400 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: One of those things where if you just take a 401 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: little extra time and you know, a little extra money 402 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 5: on getting the right pole and then a baffle to 403 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: go around it, then you're going to be so much 404 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 5: happier in the long run, especially if you want to 405 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 5: put a camera in it, because otherwise, although I got 406 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: to tell you, this whole world of you know, putting 407 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: cameras on things is kind of. 408 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: It's pretty pretty crazy because I. 409 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 5: Can't believe how many people have squirrel boxes. They specifically 410 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: put up boxes for squirrels, put cameras in there and 411 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: then live stream the squirrels and it's like, wow, it 412 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 5: didn't even occur to me too. 413 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: And people love their gray squirrels. 414 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: And they like watching them and all that stuff. So 415 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: it all depends on your intent. 416 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: Huh. 417 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 2: So is there a place or a source that you 418 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: use or do you just go online and find the 419 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: cameras to go in them? 420 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: Well, the camera the cameras are very interesting because the 421 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: technology is changing so quickly right now, and generally speaking, 422 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 5: you're gonna need to have. I would take for the 423 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 5: most stable and depending on where it's at. If it's 424 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: very close to your house and you can get a 425 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 5: Wi Fi signal to it, well then you know you've 426 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: got half. That's half your battle right there. If it's 427 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 5: not close to your house, trying to get a Wi 428 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 5: Fi signal is going to be You're gonna need to 429 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 5: hard wire it. It's going to have to be a 430 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 5: wire running out there, and then you have to think 431 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: about you know, bis and squirrels and everything else chewing 432 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: on that wire. You really have to do it. So 433 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 5: for example, with my grapefrn owl nest that's hardwired in 434 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: with a cat fixed line and which is that you know, 435 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 5: computer cabling stuff. I encased it in half inch PBC 436 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: tubing for I don't know, one hundred feet or more, 437 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: and then another thirty feet up the tree. So I 438 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: had to you know, run the wire through all these 439 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 5: pipes and then glue all the pipes together, and then 440 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 5: I trenched it into the ground and then attached it 441 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: to the tree. You know, this is you know, it's 442 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 5: not for the faint of heart, and you know you 443 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: just can't slap something up. 444 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 6: And walk away from it. 445 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: However, I have other cameras that For example, I have 446 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 5: a I'm hoping what will be a fox or coyote 447 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: den that I've created myself. I've got cameras on that. 448 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: And what I had to do was. 449 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 6: Install a Wi Fi. 450 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 5: Where it's this amplifier type of thing where it projects 451 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: the Wi Fi signal out and then it picks The 452 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: camera is solar powered, so it has a solar panel 453 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: on it and then it so that takes care. 454 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: Of your power. 455 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: But to get it back, I had to use this 456 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 5: Wi Fi extender that would you know, pick up the 457 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: signal and then bring it back and it will view 458 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: it that way. So there's every situation slightly different, and 459 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: so it's and it's really helpful to have somebody who's 460 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: really really good at this stuff to kind of hold 461 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: your hand along the way to make sure you're doing 462 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: the right things. 463 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, is there a particular company that you 464 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: go to or rely on or a website that you will. 465 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: And once you do know that you go to or 466 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: you just rely on. 467 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: I've been using Yeah, I've been using the ys It's 468 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: Wyze cameras. These things are available at even home depot 469 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: and they're simple. Why five cameras. They're meant for security, 470 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: but I use them for these things and they have great, 471 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 5: great low light capability, so you can see, you know, 472 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: in the dark with them, like for example, you know 473 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: my flying squirrel cameras are. One of them is a 474 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 5: Wive camera. The other one I use is real Link 475 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 5: R E O L A n K Real Link. And 476 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: these things are they tend to be a more expensive 477 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 5: than you and you do have to use wires for 478 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: them and running wires to them. So if you get 479 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: something in your backyard and it's you know, within a 480 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 5: reasonable distance like that, running a wire is really not 481 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: that shouldn't be that hard hard to do. And then 482 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 5: you kind of have to bring it in through some way. 483 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: You either have to bring it in physically or have 484 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 5: to bring it in via Wi Fi. And so I said, 485 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 5: every situation is a little bit different. 486 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 4: With the owl cam, you know set burying the line PVC. 487 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: They must have been using this location year after year 488 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: for you to countient this fall when you were doing that. 489 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 5: Right, right, So I put this nest platform up five 490 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: years ago. I put up in the fall, and immediately 491 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: they took to it and used it the first year, 492 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 5: and then they used the second year since their year, 493 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 5: and the fourth this is their fifth year, so I 494 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 5: had track record there. And it's also thirty feet in 495 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 5: the air, so it's quite high, and so I had 496 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 5: to rent a lift to get myself up there to 497 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: be able to install the camera and then and run 498 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: the things up. It was like it was, you know, 499 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: it was quite a production to get this done. 500 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: What's it what's it take to make the platform late? 501 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean, thirty feet up is just plywood and a 502 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: cruck in a tree or what. 503 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, last thing you want to use is plywood, so 504 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: because it delaminates very quickly and it doesn't do well 505 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: in the weather. So what I'm using is two by 506 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: six pressure traded two by six lumber, and it's a 507 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 5: three foot by three foot box. So I just turned 508 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 5: the two by six on edge so that it's taller, 509 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: you know, and then screwed that square box together three 510 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 5: feet by three feet. So this isn't a rocket science. 511 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: So you just you know, kind of estimate and get 512 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 5: your you know, make sure your sides are the same 513 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: so that you get a square box. Then the bottom 514 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: of it I put like a cross of a one 515 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: by two in the bottom of it, so that it 516 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: goes from you know, one end to the other and 517 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: then perpendicular to that from the you know, one side 518 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: to the other. So it's a basic crossing the bottom 519 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: of it. And that is to support some hardware cloth. 520 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: Hardware cloth is wier that is very has a narrow 521 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: openings in it, like, for example, a quarter inch or 522 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 5: half inch openings in it, and you do that to 523 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 5: support the nesting material and allow water. 524 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 6: To go through. 525 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: And then from there I just put in natural nesting material. 526 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: I just put dried grasses and you know, cut them 527 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: and laid them in there and formed the nest. And 528 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 5: then for my nest, I went and on the outside 529 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 5: of the box, I screwed down a bunch of branches 530 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: because I wanted to make look look natural or more natural, 531 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 5: and so that's basically it. 532 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 6: I just you know, had it set up like. 533 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 5: This, and then this fall, when I was installing the camera, 534 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 5: because it's already been up there for four years, as 535 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: I added more nesting material to it. Because the nesting material, 536 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: owls do not bring in any nesting material whatsoever, so 537 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: they're relying on me to bring in that nesting material. 538 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 5: So after four years, I needed to replace the nesting material. 539 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: So I gathered up a bunch of dry branches again, 540 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: got in the lift, went up there and you know, 541 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 5: formed the nest, put them all in there, you know, 542 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 5: made it nice and cozy and all that stuff, and thought, well, 543 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: there you go. I mean this should this should work. 544 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 5: So I mean, this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum, 545 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 5: you know, And there's a lot of work to be 546 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 5: done in these things. So if you're going to do this, 547 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: you have to kind of commit yourself to it. 548 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 6: And it's a. 549 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: Fun it's a fun project. 550 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 6: It really truly is. 551 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: I do think you deserve a cigar at the end 552 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: of this way. If if folks want to send you cigars, 553 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: what's your address. 554 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: N That's a lot of efforts. 555 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 556 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 6: It is a lot of efforts. 557 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: And then trying to get the network to work. And 558 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: I'm in a remote area so that I have to have, 559 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 5: you know, internet access, and that internet access has to 560 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: be reliable, and you know, just one thing after another 561 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 5: after another. Again, if it wasn't for my buddy Tom, 562 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure this could even be possible because my 563 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: capabilities as far as a computer guy. Is you know, 564 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: I'm I live in the natural world and I don't 565 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 5: computers don't come natural to me. So you having somebody 566 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: who really knows the fact they're doing is helpful, really. 567 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: Does I understand? Stan? 568 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: Can we take we have to take a break. Are 569 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: you okay with another segment? 570 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? 571 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 572 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: On our return, we'll talk with mister Stan Tequila find 573 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: him at naturesmart dot com about what's going on out 574 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: in the Yellowstone what have they been seeing? And uh, 575 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: either they have to run away from Buffalo or anything 576 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: like that or bithen. 577 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll find out when we return. 578 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: We'll take that break and we will be right back 579 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: with more Stan Tequila after this forty three minutes after 580 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: the hour of six a m. Fan outdoors coming away 581 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: until the eight o'clock hour. Bob Saint Pierre in studio. 582 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: Mister Brett Blake Moore, our executive producers, taking great care 583 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: of us, as he is always doing on a Saturday 584 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: morning beginning at six am, and we appreciate his help. 585 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm Billy Hildebrand, but nobody really cares about that. 586 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 3: That's okay. 587 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of leading the way here and we'll 588 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: let everything happen as it does. Mister Stan Tequila is 589 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: our guest and he is out in Montana heading into 590 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: Yellowstone National Park. Stan, is anything anything really caught your 591 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: eye and the eyes of some of your guests as 592 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: far as wildlife and the things that you're photographing. 593 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 5: Well, yes, there's a lot of things going on. In particular. 594 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 5: So the month of February is the mating season for 595 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: both coyotes and wolves, and so this has been really 596 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: a kind. 597 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: Of a coyote trip. 598 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 5: We've had so many is around and there's a lot 599 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: of different mating behaviors that we've been able to see 600 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 5: and uh and film and photograph and so that's been 601 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 5: that's been fun. A fair amount of red fox uh 602 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 5: we've encountered, and those are always spectacular. As far as 603 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: the wolves go, it's uh, it's been slow. It's been quiet. 604 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: With the wolves we've had. We've seen them just about 605 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: every single day, but oftentimes they are too far too 606 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 5: distant to be able to capture any images. 607 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 6: I have. 608 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 5: I have captured some pretty good, pretty good images. I'll 609 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 5: text you over a few so you guys can see them. 610 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: And so that's that's been the second group I'm out 611 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: here doing photography workshops, and these photography workshops are are 612 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 5: just such an adventure. They really truly are and and 613 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 5: you know, you're you're able to capture winter and you know, 614 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 5: kind of the rugged things. 615 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 6: In most years. 616 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 5: This year, although we have snow, it is just not 617 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 5: a deep snow. Normally it's three four feet deep and 618 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 5: we're having you know, to uh, you know, really have 619 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 5: a hard time getting around. But this year it's only 620 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 5: maybe about six inches to a foot on the ground, 621 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 5: so it's not much at all, which is actually making 622 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 5: it very easy for the wildlife. The wildlife is not 623 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 5: having any problems with it whatsoever. It does make it 624 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 5: a little bit more difficult for the predators because the predators, 625 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: you know, the thing, the prey, the you know, the 626 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 5: the elk, the mule, year, the bison and all that 627 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: have no problems getting around and really have no problems running. 628 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 6: Away from from predators. 629 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 5: So it's a you know, it's like a balance beat 630 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 5: or like a balance. If it goes down on one side, 631 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 5: it goes up on the other, and it is a 632 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 5: so it's good for some animals and not good for 633 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 5: other animals. 634 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: And it's a you. 635 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: Know, so it's fun. We last year we had a 636 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: outbreak of Northern pigmy owls and they were just all 637 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 5: over the place and that was really a special year. 638 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: This year back down in normal levels, which is you 639 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 5: never see them and so but we did manage to 640 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 5: find one the last three days in a row, and 641 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 5: so that's been kind of very very special. And so 642 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 5: just a variety of things like that. I am seeing 643 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 5: things like bule Deier in parts of the park where 644 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: I've never seen them before, and that's interesting. So there's 645 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 5: lots of things, uh, river otters, a lot of river 646 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: otter activity right now too, and they are always so 647 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 5: much fun. I captured some of the best video I've 648 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 5: ever gotten of river odters running, you know, down the 649 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 5: river and they're on the snow and they're on the 650 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: ice with snow cover on it and then they you know, slide. 651 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 6: How they how they do that? 652 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 5: They put their legs back and they light on the 653 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 5: chest all the way down. And I captured some just 654 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: incredible video this year of river otters running down the river. 655 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 5: So it's just smattering everything. But the number one thing 656 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 5: that I'm really kind of excited about it is we 657 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 5: were uh following a coyote for quite a long distance 658 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 5: and it started to run. And this coyote ran and 659 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 5: ran and ran. We kind of positioned ourselves so it 660 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 5: would run near us. We're able to capture some great 661 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 5: action shots of that. And then when it was when 662 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 5: it reached this kind of a hillside, it went up 663 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 5: and over the hillside and everybody was like, oh wow, 664 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 5: that's fantastic, this is really cool. And then somebody said, 665 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 5: there's some movement on the top of the ridge here, 666 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: and when we turned to look, it was a long 667 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 5: tail weasel. Now long tail weasels are we in Minnesota, 668 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 5: we have short tail weasels. They look very similar so 669 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 5: there at this time of year in the winter time, 670 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 5: they're white with a black tip of the tail. And 671 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 5: and there was one popping out of the snow. And 672 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: when it popped out of the snow, everybody and it 673 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 5: was blue skies and which was really kind of cool, 674 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 5: and we're able to capture some great images. I was 675 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 5: able to capture some images as it was running across 676 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 5: the surface of the snow, and that's the kind of 677 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 5: the for me, the cool thing that really is, you know, 678 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 5: transpired during this trip. 679 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's awesome. 680 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 4: What part of the park are you Where are you 681 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: in Wyoming or are you Montana? Are you bouncing around? 682 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 5: We're in Montana right now, and we go into the 683 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 5: park every day. 684 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 6: We take these large. 685 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 5: Snow coaches they're called they're forty six inch tired you know, 686 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: big wheel monster trucks, and we take those into the 687 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: interior of the park in places where you cannot go normally, 688 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 5: you can't have the park is closed in the wintertime 689 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 5: to automobile trafficked. And so we we've got these uh 690 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 5: you know, customize snow coaches that our four wheel drive 691 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 5: and like you said, they get these gigantic tires on them, 692 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 5: and we take those into the park every single day. 693 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 5: So we leave at about quarter to seven in the 694 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 5: morning when it's still dark. We're usually in the park 695 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 5: by seven and we're out all day long. We take 696 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 5: a lunch with us, and we end up, you know, 697 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 5: coming back at five pm when the sun's setting. So 698 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 5: it's quite an adventure, it really is. If this is 699 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 5: a photography workshop and if anybody's interested in this for 700 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 5: the first time, I'm going to be offering to the 701 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 5: public a trip to do this exact same thing next 702 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 5: year twenty twenty seven, so it's only a year from 703 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: now and they can go to nature smart dot com 704 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 5: for more information about that and contact me for register 705 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 5: to register for this program. I'm only taking six participants, 706 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 5: that's it, and it will be about eight days, nine 707 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: days of pretty spectacular of you know winter while I 708 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 5: photography in Yellowstone. So people just you know, get on 709 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 5: naturesmont dot com and take a look at the trips 710 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 5: and you'll see it there. 711 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: Do you do you have like a classroom session for 712 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: people to stand to fate to learn more about. 713 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 5: We have a debriefing where we kind of you know, 714 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: talk about the day's images and if people want to 715 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 5: quickly process some images and have them critiqued, then we 716 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 5: do that. But usually people go on these trips know 717 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 5: a little bit about photography and they're they're usually pretty confident, 718 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 5: but a lot of it's like in the field while 719 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 5: we're doing it. These are the settings, this is what 720 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: we need to you know, do to capture this type 721 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 5: of image, and you know, all the settings. They kind 722 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 5: of go because it is a workshop on how to 723 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 5: improve your photography and get a chance to photograph animals 724 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 5: that you normally wouldn't. 725 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So are are all the all the participants so 726 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: they maybe that's the dumb question, but are all the 727 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: cameras that they use motor drives so they can shoot 728 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: multiple images per second? 729 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this these days, the everybody's using digital and 730 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 5: most people are mirrorless, and the mirrorless cameras are shooting 731 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 5: thirty to forty pitchers per second. 732 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 6: So it is yes, there's. 733 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 5: You get a lot of images from, you know, from 734 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 5: these trips, and because you want to capture every little thing, 735 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 5: like for example, that that longtail weasel as it was 736 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 5: popping on the snow and running, I've got him actually 737 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 5: airborne with you know, front legs forward. He's like Superman, 738 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 5: you know, front legs out in front of him, back 739 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 5: legs behind him. Is all stretched out and he's you know, 740 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 5: a foot off the top of the snow. And what 741 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 5: I love about the image so much is that it's 742 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 5: got a shadow of himself underneath him on the snow, 743 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 5: even though he's not even on the snow. So it's 744 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 5: really kind of a fun fun and you can only 745 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 5: do that when you're running these you know, digital cameras 746 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 5: with high frame rates where you can get thirty or 747 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 5: forty pictures per second. 748 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not like this old guy when I 749 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: tried to use I used to try to take lightning 750 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: pictures with the nikon. 751 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 3: And film. It didn't work that way. 752 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 753 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 5: Well, these days, taking pictures like that has become so 754 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 5: simple and so easy. 755 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 6: That's why. 756 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 5: That's why so many people are photographers now, because the 757 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 5: technologies advanced so far that you know, just about anybody 758 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 5: can run these cameras and. 759 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 6: And produce amazing images. 760 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 5: The other thing is true is that because it's me, 761 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 5: you know, and I can't help myself. People learn the 762 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 5: natural history of the animals, and you know where we're at, 763 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 5: what we're doing. So when you come along a photo 764 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 5: workshop like this, you are also learning about the animals 765 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 5: and you're getting personal, firsthand experience with you know, these 766 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 5: types of animals like foxes and coyotes and wool you know, 767 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 5: big horned sheep, lots of things that we're out here doing, 768 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 5: even though long tailed weaseled. 769 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 6: All this stuff is. 770 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 5: You will get educated on it only because I can't 771 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 5: help myself. 772 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: Have you had any encounters with any of the packs 773 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: of wolves. 774 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 5: Yes, we've had with three different packs of wolves. 775 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 6: We've had most. 776 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 5: Of the time. We had the Recue Creek pack that 777 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 5: had on the very first day of the very first group, 778 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 5: the Rescue Creek Pack had killed an elk and they 779 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: were feeding on that and it was about four hundred 780 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 5: and fifty yards away, So it was more of a 781 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 5: can you know, we can see them, and we can 782 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 5: capture group pictures, no like you know, uptight close individual images, 783 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 5: but we can see the groups in that. That's always exciting, 784 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 5: especially for because remember these groups that I've been doing 785 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 5: the last couple I don't know ten years now have 786 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 5: all been from the been from Europe, and so now 787 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 5: this is next year is gonna be the first year 788 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be offering it for people from North America 789 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 5: to be going on these trips, and so that was 790 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 5: pretty exciting for those guys. And we've had both the 791 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 5: Wapaty Pack, which is quite a large pack, there's thirty 792 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 5: some individuals in it has broken up into two different groups, 793 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 5: and those two different groups are like of operating independently. 794 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 5: And as they operate independently, you know, they act as 795 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 5: two different types of packs, but they're all still considered 796 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 5: one so far, and so that's it's been interesting to 797 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 5: see those guys. We've seen them quite a few. We've 798 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 5: seen just about every single day. Another cool thing is 799 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: is that about sixty percent of all the wolves and 800 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 5: Yellstone are black, so they're really dark and they stand 801 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 5: out against the white snow, and that is really kind 802 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 5: of a fun you know, looking when they when you 803 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 5: see them, you get these pictures of them, it's kind 804 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 5: of fun to see. We've got a single, lone black 805 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 5: wolf that's been found out in the Hayden Valley and 806 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: we've been seeing him quite often too. 807 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 6: And but a. 808 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 5: Lone wolf by itself is it's it's tough at this 809 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: time of year. February is the mating season for wolves, 810 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 5: and so there's a lot of extra curricular activities going on, 811 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 5: you know, and due to the mating season and so 812 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 5: they are, you know, a lot of things are happening 813 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 5: that are it's it's so detailed that it's hard to 814 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 5: get into on the shelters. But you know what I'm saying, 815 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 5: it's it's it's really a lot of it is because 816 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 5: of the group I have right now is only interested 817 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 5: in wolves. We are spending our entire day when we 818 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 5: find wolves weren't just sitting and observing and watching and 819 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 5: waiting for them to do something that we can capture 820 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 5: on the digital captures. So it's pretty cool. 821 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: Stand maybe the last question, but before you have to 822 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: go the packs of wolves of various packs, do they 823 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: have different person does a pack have a personality and 824 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: would they have different ones that you a person can 825 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 2: identify as far as personality goes. 826 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 5: So some of the packs are better at taking bison 827 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 5: than others. So for example, in the summertime, there's over 828 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 5: twelve thousand elk in the park, but in the winter 829 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 5: time that population drops dramatically because the elk move out 830 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 5: of the high altitude areas in the lower altitude areas 831 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 5: and a lot of times they move out of the park. 832 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 5: So what's left over for the wolves to hunt are bison. Now, 833 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 5: I don't know who the last time you've been up 834 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 5: against a bison. You know, the bulls can be upwards 835 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 5: of two thousand pounds. I mean, they are massive animals 836 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 5: and it's funny to watch, Like yesterday we had a 837 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 5: lone black wolf walked past like five male you know 838 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 5: these bull bison, and the bison just basically looked, listened 839 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 5: to her head, looked at it and went, yeah, what 840 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 5: do you want? You know, they were like, you know, 841 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 5: and the wolf was just kind of looking at them 842 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 5: walking by, because there's no possible way that this wolf 843 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 5: could do that. You could do anything with these bison. Now, 844 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 5: if you got a young and it's a whole pack 845 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 5: of wolves, then you know there's a chance or somebody's injured, 846 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 5: one of the cows is injured, or something like that. 847 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 5: That's a different story. About four days ago, we had 848 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 5: a herd of bison with one cow with a badly 849 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 5: injured front leg and it was hobbling along. I mean you, 850 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 5: it was very, very very obvious that she had a 851 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 5: major injury. And there was four wolves who were kind 852 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 5: of on the outside, just looking and watching and waiting 853 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 5: for their opportunity. Because I get again, I need to 854 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 5: remind you that when these wolves are hunting, they're not 855 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 5: taking the biggest and the best. They're taking the sick, 856 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 5: they're taking the injured. You know, they're taking the infirmed, 857 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 5: and they are that's who they go after because it's 858 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 5: so hard for them to do this. And so we 859 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 5: sat there for almost in the complete day waiting for 860 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 5: these four wolves to do something, and the wolves just 861 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 5: kind of hung out and. 862 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 6: You know, they didn't. 863 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 5: In the end, they didn't actually do anything. It got 864 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 5: dark and we had to leave. But we thought, oh, well, 865 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 5: here's perfect situation. You've got a very badly injured cow 866 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 5: bison and you've got four wolves. We were just you know, 867 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 5: hoping something, what happens, we could capture the action, so 868 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 5: and nothing actually did so interesting. 869 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: Interesting, Well Stan, we're going to go to break my friend, 870 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: and we will let you go and wish you a 871 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: fantastic day and hopefully get you back to Minnesota. We 872 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: can and when next we speak and have a good time. 873 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, sounthod. And then people should tune into the Life 874 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 5: Bowel cam if they can, or consider my trip next year. 875 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 2: There you go, yes, thank you, stand it's ok, you betcha, 876 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 2: that's stand Tequila Nature smart dot com. Take a look, 877 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 2: and if you don't see the live stream, it's all 878 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: the way in the bottom or go to YouTube. But 879 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 2: all the videos are fascinating that you can look at 880 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: and you can watch and highly recommend the Flying Squirrel Career. 881 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 2: It's so fun and you'll be amazed. You just won't 882 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: believe it. And they're around your house and you won't 883 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: even know it. 884 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 3: Have you Have you been to Yellow Sun? Yeah? Yeah 885 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: you have? You bring the kids there? 886 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: What? 887 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 3: No, No, it was BK before kids? 888 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 7: Yes? 889 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 3: Was it? 890 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 6: Uh? 891 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: At Debio? 892 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 6: Is you. 893 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 894 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah to think, well, there's. 895 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: I've had a couple of trips, motorcycle trips and stuff 896 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 2: that that that was b b W. 897 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 3: Said before women. I don't know. 898 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,479 Speaker 2: No, it was just just a guy trip. 899 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 5: Man. 900 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 3: It was fun. It was a summer motorcycle tip to you. 901 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a guy. We need to take a 902 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 2: break there. One of the guys on the trips had 903 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: a Harley and that was in the days that the 904 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: Harley was as they always dripped oil and they were 905 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: always vibrating his stuff. And I was riding a Honda 906 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 2: at the time and his kickstand fell off, lost his 907 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 2: kickstand for his bike. So the only place we could 908 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 2: stop and eat was someplace he could lean his bike. 909 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 3: On and oil was or whatever. 910 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 2: But we got back and driving across South Dakota is 911 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 2: a across South Dakota boring trip on a motorcycle, hours 912 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 2: and hours. Anyway, we'll take a pause and we will 913 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 2: be back with is CALLI Harmley, editor of gun Dog Magazine, 914 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: who will also be at pheasant Fest. And I'm told 915 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: she's moderating a panel that that you're on. 916 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 3: I'll be good. 917 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: I promise we'll be right back, humid seven minutes after 918 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: the hour of seven am. Once again, we'll be with 919 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: you until the eight o'clock hour. But then keep it 920 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: right here because in the zone Fan Outdoors each and 921 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 2: every week, Bob Saint Pierre's in studio, mister Brett Blake 922 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 2: Moore is taking wonderful care of us. And I am 923 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: Billy Hildebrand and Bob introduce our next guest. 924 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: Please, yeah, I'm making her Fan Outdoors debut. 925 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 926 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 4: The editor of gun Dog Magazine and the host of 927 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 4: Wild Upland Television, Callie Parmalay, is up very early in 928 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 4: the Mountain time zone to join us this morning. 929 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 3: CALLI thank you very much for making time this morning. 930 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 9: Good morning, guys, how are you? 931 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 4: We're good? Are you a bright eyed and bushytailed this morning? 932 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 9: I'm only halfway through my first cup of coffee though. 933 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 3: How long have you been editor of gun Dog now? 934 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 9: Oh, that's a good question. I'm around five plus years now, 935 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 9: I would say it. I took over, and I'm not 936 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 9: even sure what year I took over. 937 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 4: If I recall correctly, you're you didn't grow up as 938 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: a bird hunter. It was a little bit later in 939 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 4: life that you got this addiction. 940 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 3: Is that right? 941 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 7: Yeah? 942 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 9: I started hunting in my late in my mid twenties. 943 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 9: I grew up, but I grew up in a very 944 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 9: rural area in Ohio, so hunting wasn't strange to me. 945 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 7: It was this. 946 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 9: I was already super outdoorsy, so it was almost like 947 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 9: an extension of being outdoorsy to me. And I started 948 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 9: hunting after I got my first job out of college, 949 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 9: which was with the US Sportsman's Alliance. That's a nonprofit 950 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 9: that helped protect hunting. And I had a friend at 951 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 9: work take me turkey hunting, and I got hooked. And 952 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 9: then I ended up getting my first dog, who was 953 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 9: a surprised bird dog. He wasn't bought as a bird dog, 954 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 9: but he ended up being a fantastic bird dog, and 955 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 9: he is what made me a bird hunter. And now 956 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 9: I'm a little bit addicted, I would say. 957 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 4: In the experience of getting a dog and leading you 958 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 4: into bird hunting is the focus of the women on 959 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 4: the Wing Brunch, which you're keynoting. Can you give us 960 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of a taste of what you're planning 961 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 4: to talk about? 962 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 9: Sure, So the same is friends in the field, and 963 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 9: so you know, to me it was the talk is 964 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 9: supposed to be about friends who get us in the field. 965 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 9: And of course my first friend have been my dog, 966 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 9: and so I think they're super important to especially my 967 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 9: passion behind bird hunting and why I do it honestly, 968 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 9: and then the past that the dogs lead us and 969 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 9: the people that they help us meet along the way. 970 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 9: And so I have been very fortunate in my bird 971 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 9: hunting career to meet some of the best of the 972 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 9: best people and be friends and have some of the 973 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 9: best friends out there and love to share the feeld 974 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 9: with them. So I hope to take this speech, you know, 975 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 9: tell some funny stories and talk about how important friends 976 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 9: can be in this industry and helping you become a 977 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 9: bird hunter and lifelong friendships that you can make along 978 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 9: the way, both in the canine world and in the 979 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 9: two legged world. 980 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: Kelly Billy Hildebrand here, and it's nice to meet you. 981 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad you made the time to come on and 982 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 2: join us too. 983 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 5: Hi. 984 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, I had a lengthy conversation last night with 985 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 2: a friend of mine and also a friend of yours, 986 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: Tina Dowcan, and said to say and to ask you 987 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 2: about a workshop that you are a an integral part 988 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: of that she puts on each year. 989 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 9: Sure. So Tina and Tom Docin are very very good 990 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 9: friends of mine, are kind of treat him, you know, 991 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 9: like family. I'm probably at their house more than at 992 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 9: my own house. But yeah, Tina and Tom put on 993 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 9: a with Busins Forever a Woman's Learned to Hunt weekend 994 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 9: in August and we have about twenty twenty five women 995 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 9: come out and it's just a weekend workshop where we 996 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 9: teach them all the the beginning steps of learning to 997 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 9: be a bird hunter, from shooting instruction to understanding shotguns 998 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 9: and choke sizes and shells and shot size too. I 999 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 9: do dog demos with my setters. My friend Namally does 1000 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 9: dog demos with her lab. We teach people proper safety 1001 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 9: in the field, the gear to use, how to use onyx, 1002 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 9: you know, everything you can think of that people have 1003 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 9: questions about in the beginning steps of burd hunting. So 1004 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 9: it's a really great fun weekend. It's very affordable for 1005 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 9: what you get you know, they walk away with all 1006 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 9: this knowledge and all this gear to get you started 1007 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 9: in the uplands. And it's really a fantastic weekend and 1008 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 9: I love being a part of. 1009 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: And it sounds like some of the same things that 1010 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 2: you'll be addressing at FEST and fest too. 1011 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, it is. It's you know we talk about I mean, 1012 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 9: they'll see my dogs and they get to talk to 1013 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 9: you know. It's honestly some of the some of the 1014 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 9: best weekends I've ever had as part of that, as 1015 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 9: part of that workshop, and the ladies who help RUNN 1016 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 9: are just absolutely fantastic and Tina puts a lot of 1017 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 9: love and dedication behind it, and it's it's a really 1018 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 9: great workshop. So if you're interested in this, if you're 1019 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 9: a new bide you know absolutely nothing about bird hunting, 1020 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 9: or if you're or if you're a novice and you 1021 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 9: know and you just want to learn some extra things 1022 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,959 Speaker 9: like please join us. We have registration open right now 1023 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 9: and it's uh late in August, and it's just a weekend. 1024 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 9: It's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and if anything, it's just 1025 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 9: a really fun weekend to come meet some new people. 1026 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: The most controversial question you'll get this morning. 1027 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 2: I know, I know you've had fresh I know I 1028 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: know you've had flushing breeds, and I know you had 1029 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: pointing breeds. 1030 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: Flushers or pointers. Kelly, you can't go. 1031 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 9: Wrong with Ask you the other day what I was 1032 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 9: to what breed I would stick with? And my first 1033 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 9: love was a laugh. I mean, he got me into 1034 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 9: the world of upland hunting, and I have, of course, 1035 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 9: I think it's I almost think it's smart to start 1036 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 9: with that breed just because it teaches you a very 1037 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 9: different way of hunting. But now I have setters, and 1038 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 9: I got setters because I felt like I wanted to. 1039 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 9: I wanted some point in reason. Now I'm not saying 1040 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 9: I would never get a lab again, because I think, 1041 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 9: like I use my lab for checker hunting, so they 1042 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 9: can do it, like they can do any type of 1043 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 9: bird hunting you want them to do. It's just a 1044 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 9: different style, you know. And so right now I have 1045 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 9: my setters, and I really enjoy having my gun cracked 1046 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 9: over my shoulder while I'm hiking around until I get 1047 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 9: a beat that my dog's are on point. 1048 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 2: You know. 1049 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 9: It's just like it's just a it's a different style. 1050 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 9: If you're looking for a more fast paced got to 1051 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 9: be on the ready all the time. A beautiful lab 1052 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 9: quartering in front of you, Like, that's for you, right, 1053 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 9: If you're looking for a dog that's two hundred and 1054 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 9: three hundred yards away from you, you got your gun cracked 1055 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 9: over your shoulder and you're just waiting for that beef 1056 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 9: and you're just kind of casually hiking, trying to catch 1057 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 9: your breath, and as you're making your way through the uplands, like, 1058 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 9: that's the dog for you, right. And I'm telling you, 1059 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 9: there's nothing there's nothing more beautiful than seeing a dog 1060 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 9: on point. There's nothing I'll I'll argue that to the end. 1061 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 9: So my next dogs will be more centered. 1062 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 2: Whatever I've asked you for a photo for social media 1063 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 2: or podcast or something, you always send the most epic images. 1064 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 4: There's mountains behind you, you're off a cliff, but you 1065 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 4: grew up in Ohio? Well what what pulled you out west? 1066 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 9: Honestly, the hunting I before I took over Gun Dog, 1067 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 9: I was I was the managing under Petersons Hunting Magazine. 1068 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 9: So I also do a lot of big game honting, 1069 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 9: and I do a lot of backpack hunting and off 1070 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 9: the grid hunting, and so when I was working for Peterson's, 1071 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 9: I was really into that. And then as my love 1072 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 9: for bird hunting grew, I got into really western bird hunting. 1073 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,479 Speaker 9: And so I found myself out West a Ton all 1074 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 9: season long, and it was I literally would just live 1075 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 9: out of my car. It was great with my dog Lincoln. 1076 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 9: And when it came to time, I used to live 1077 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 9: in Purita, Illinois for the job. And when it came 1078 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 9: time to decide, like, Okay, do you move back home 1079 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 9: or do you try another place, I was like, you know, 1080 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 9: I really want to live in the West for a 1081 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 9: little bit. And it's really conducive to my lifestyle anymore, 1082 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 9: my passions, and you know, I love I love hunting, 1083 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 9: and I love being in the mountains with my dogs. 1084 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 9: And yes, I'm a trucker hunter, but I'm also tucker 1085 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 9: hunts quail and pheasants, you know, And so I'm just 1086 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 9: closer to everything. 1087 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 5: You know. 1088 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 9: I can be in South Dakota and you know fifty 1089 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 9: you know, twelve hours. I can be in Nebraka in eight, 1090 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 9: you know. And you know, I can be up an 1091 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 9: Idaho and two and a half hours or down in 1092 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 9: Arizona in ten, but it's way closer than twenty four 1093 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 9: hour dry from Ohio. So it's and it's it's just 1094 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 9: conducive to my lifestyle. I mean, I hunt, and I hike, 1095 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 9: and I camp and I do all the outdoors and things. 1096 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 4: And you were going to be the featured speaker the 1097 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 4: Women on the Wing brunch at Fest, which is a 1098 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Sunday event nine thirty February twenty second. There's a few 1099 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 4: tickets left for that, and then you were going to 1100 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 4: host a couple of panels. 1101 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 3: Of podcasters in the captain. 1102 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 4: Is on one of those panels. 1103 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: You want to tease him now with any questions that 1104 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 2: he should start you to win. 1105 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,479 Speaker 9: I supposed to give you a hard time. 1106 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: It's okay. He Bob tries a lot, but he usually 1107 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 2: backfires on Well, we'll get tee to doc in a 1108 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 2: theater a question for you. 1109 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 9: I'm really looking for. That is one of my is 1110 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 9: honestly my favorite trade show of the year. It's it's 1111 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 9: our people, right, That's what I always tell people is this, 1112 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 9: it's our people. It's so down to earth and it's 1113 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 9: it's about it's all about dogs and up and hunting, 1114 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 9: and it's like what Morgan yes, what more good yea for? 1115 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 9: And I love I love seeing everyone. You know, we 1116 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 9: all we're all in this industry together. We don't get 1117 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 9: to see each other very often. So it's just a 1118 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 9: place we're all going to come together and give each 1119 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 9: other a hard time. And I'm looking forward to it, honestly. 1120 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 9: I mean, I you asked me to be the speaker 1121 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 9: of the Women and the Wing New Brunch, and I 1122 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 9: think you said that email. My face got a little 1123 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 9: red because I'm like, I don't know, I don't I 1124 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 9: don't think I've given a speech since college, so you 1125 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 9: can't make any promises just what the speech is going 1126 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 9: to be like. 1127 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 4: But you get a talk talk and bird dogs, I 1128 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 4: think you're going to just succeed perfectly. 1129 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 2: We can get a recording of this, Kelli, and just 1130 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 2: replay this. 1131 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 9: Good idea. 1132 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good. 1133 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 9: Idea to be fun. I'm really looking forward to it. 1134 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 9: It's one of the best weekends out there. 1135 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Excellent, Kelly. 1136 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this morning and 1137 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: even getting up. I don't know if you finished your 1138 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 2: first cup of coffee yet, but if not. 1139 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 9: You haven't talking too much. 1140 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Well do you deserve a refill too? 1141 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 3: So enjoy that. 1142 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Thank you Kelly very much. Look forward to meeting you 1143 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 2: in person too. 1144 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 9: Thank you. Guys. Have a good Saturday. I'm heading out 1145 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 9: to take my boys hunting now. 1146 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 3: So I here's seasons still going. Yeah, fifteenth, that's fabulous. Well, 1147 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 3: good luck, have fun. 1148 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1149 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 9: We'll talk later. See you next weekend or two weekends. 1150 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 2: Two weekends, two weekends. 1151 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 3: That's Kellie Parmally. 1152 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 4: You've been a subscriber toy gun Dog Forby. 1153 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I think from one of the original ones too, because 1154 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 2: when it first came out, I jumped on board. And 1155 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 2: if you come to the cabin, if you get invited 1156 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 2: to the cabin, you will have gun Dog magazines. Quite 1157 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 2: there's a stack of them there, there are, and I 1158 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 2: keep the old ones also because it's good stuff. We'll 1159 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 2: take a pause and be back with Tackle Terry or 1160 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 2: right after this. 1161 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 3: We're back. 1162 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes after the hour of seven a m. A. 1163 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Tackle Terry. Are you on the ice? Are you fishing? 1164 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: Are you catching? What's going on? 1165 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 7: Good morning Well to you guys, toll Our listeners. No 1166 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 7: I'm not. I'm going to be heading out to the 1167 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 7: Veterans Sumption on Medicine Lake. This morning. 1168 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I know it's a Veterans for veterans, veteran 1169 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 2: Holes for Herpes, and it goes on out at Medicine. 1170 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Lake this morning. 1171 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 7: It is really great event. I invite all of our 1172 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 7: veterans and families to tim It actually starts. The main 1173 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 7: stage charts eleven thirty, with the opening ceremony's at twelve 1174 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 7: o'clock and the actual tournament starts at one o'clock on 1175 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 7: the whole Lake of Medicine. And then too, they've got 1176 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 7: a approximately five thousand dollars worth of prizes and there's 1177 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 7: just a lot going on. From twelve to one. They 1178 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 7: got the national anthem, they got posting of the colors, 1179 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 7: the Pledge of allegiance, soaring in the new Minnesota recruits. 1180 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 7: So just a ton of stuff going on. And also 1181 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 7: two it's a wonderful event. Now also to I shouldn't 1182 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 7: mention that the general public is sure invited to attend. 1183 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 7: There will be some sort of small minimal. 1184 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Charge, okay. And how long will the tournament. 1185 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 3: Go, Terry, It goes to four o'clock, okay. 1186 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 7: And what you see fishing is from one till four. 1187 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 2: So, and what species are the target species? 1188 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 6: All species. 1189 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 7: So anybody that brings in a fish will be entering 1190 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 7: the contest, and like you said, they just got it 1191 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 7: a ton of prizes. 1192 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 2: So is it biggest fish or is it a random 1193 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 2: drawing of those who had fish? 1194 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 7: No, it's biggest fish, Bill. 1195 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Okay, categories for obviously a pike is going to be 1196 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,439 Speaker 2: more than a sunfish. 1197 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 7: Right and then also too, if you get you know, 1198 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 7: a bass, you know or something too many times that 1199 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 7: you know bigger fish, can you know that it's going 1200 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,959 Speaker 7: to win the tournament? But it varies so much, too, Bill, 1201 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of factors in there. 1202 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 2: What would you be targeting, Terry, if you were fishing, 1203 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're not. 1204 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 7: No, I'm not fishing, unfortunately, but I guess I would 1205 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 7: probably have a tendanted to target sunfish and crappies. Oh, 1206 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 7: there'll be people there fishing northern pike. There no question 1207 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 7: about that. 1208 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Tip ups are allowed. Pardon, tip ups are allowed. 1209 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 7: I'm sure they are. 1210 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: Yea. 1211 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 7: I haven't heard anything that you cannot use a tip up, 1212 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 7: but I'm sure that they're allowed to. And you have 1213 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 7: the option to two lines, so you can do a 1214 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 7: lot of different doubt approaches or ways of catching any 1215 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 7: specie of fish. 1216 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So if you were fishing for sunfish and using 1217 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 2: ultra light, would you use a noodle rod or an 1218 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 2: ultra light or or how would you what would be 1219 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 2: your choice? 1220 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 7: Well that's a good question, Bill, thank you for asking that. Well, 1221 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 7: first of all, what I would definitely do, I would, 1222 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 7: And I now just mention how I usually start out 1223 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 7: or start to fish, depending on the mood to fish. 1224 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 7: That's really the big factor with an ultra light rod 1225 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 7: where you need to you know, set the hook firmly. 1226 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 7: And with a noodle rod here too, you know, a 1227 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 7: noodle rod is going to have a different tip action 1228 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 7: and many times different power and the rod itself, So 1229 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 7: you want to set the hook much firmer because you're 1230 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 7: going to have given that tip. And then when a 1231 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 7: spring bobber, which is extremely successful, especially when you have 1232 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 7: a tougher bite going, is that what we have to 1233 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 7: understand you're and do that the spring gives, so you 1234 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 7: have to really set the hook very very hard. But 1235 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 7: here too, you know, if you watch that spring or 1236 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 7: that noodle tip, but the spring bobber especially, you'll see 1237 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 7: it start to move down and if it keeps moving 1238 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 7: down real slow and steady. That's a sign of a 1239 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 7: bigger sunfish or crappie. If it just sort of jumps 1240 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 7: up and down, then means a smatter fish. But that's 1241 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 7: not always the case, but most of the time it is. 1242 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 7: But there's a big difference using the specific rods to 1243 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 7: really what amounts to bill is to detect that ultra 1244 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 7: light bite. 1245 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 2: I think that Bob would be a good candidate for 1246 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 2: a noodle rod to set the hook because when we're 1247 01:08:47,760 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 2: fishing an open water cherry, the only thing I hear is. 1248 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 7: It is so easy, you know. I think what also 1249 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,879 Speaker 7: with a spring that many times we have this tenanty 1250 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 7: just set the hook. You know, as soon as the 1251 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 7: spring starts to move, we have a tendancy just set 1252 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 7: the hook, and that doesn't give the fish enough time 1253 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 7: to allow it to inhale that bait. And you can 1254 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 7: always tell if you're setting the hook correctly, that that 1255 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,640 Speaker 7: hook is going to be pacing the upper part of 1256 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 7: that mouth and not swallowing that beat and lure. 1257 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 3: Come on, tackle. 1258 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 4: There's no such thing as setting the hook too with 1259 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 4: too much enthusiasm, is there. 1260 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, there's a lot to be setting the hook. 1261 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 7: You know, and that's you know here too. Sometimes we 1262 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 7: set the hook too soon, we pulled a bait away 1263 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 7: from the fish. And then sometimes we wait too long 1264 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 7: where that fish actually inhales that bait. 1265 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Well, if Bob is watching, if it's sight fishing, there's 1266 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 2: no there's no such thing as too soon. 1267 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 7: Well, you know, and you can tell if you just 1268 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 7: you know, if you set the hook too soon, you 1269 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 7: can feel that, you know, what should I say, that 1270 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 7: sort of that feel and that you pulled a hook away. 1271 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 7: And so many times we have this tendency to you know, 1272 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 7: just not pay attention to that rod. We're always waiting 1273 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 7: for that telltale signing the rod handle. And most of 1274 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 7: the time, especially for finiky fish, anything including wallete, you're 1275 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 7: not going to feel that thumb. 1276 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 2: Well they Bob calls that a swing and a miss when. 1277 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 7: About the same thing, the same thing. Are you using 1278 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 7: a soft water baseball. I'm more of a baseball guy, Okay, 1279 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 7: but you know, there's a lot to be said about 1280 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 7: the rods, especially for when you have phiniky fish. I 1281 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 7: think there's so much of a factor. Then too often 1282 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,799 Speaker 7: we feel that we invested in a good ice fishing 1283 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 7: rod and we're waiting for that feel. Most of the 1284 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 7: time you're not going to feel that fish. 1285 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 2: What about people coming out to medicine today, Terry, what 1286 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 2: live bait? If they're bringing live bait? Would you use 1287 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 2: live bait or would you use plastics if you're targeting 1288 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 2: some both. 1289 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 7: I think I would really depend on what we're pursuing. 1290 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 7: And then also too, you know, are we going to 1291 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 7: use pronostic ore and live bait? And here too, it's 1292 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 7: something that we really have to dress, you know when 1293 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 7: you're talking about plastic Bill, you know, in our sole job, 1294 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 7: even like with rattles and so forth, we have to 1295 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 7: track the fish and then trigger it into bite. That's 1296 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 7: summertime in winter time for any specie of fish. And 1297 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 7: here too, if you can have the opportunity of fishing 1298 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 7: two holes, then I will go one with plastic and 1299 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 7: one would live bait. And we talk about live bait. 1300 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 7: Definitely I would take wigglers along with you. I willn't 1301 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 7: even monkey with wax worms. And then two using fat 1302 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 7: eds or sacramentos if you're targeting some bigger fish. 1303 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 2: So with uh, I don't know how how would you 1304 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 2: fish two rods? If you're fishing for some fish, would 1305 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,839 Speaker 2: you have a like a dead stick rod, yes. 1306 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 7: Or a Bober's stick rod. But normally I'm lead you 1307 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 7: bring that up. I know a lot of anger that fish. 1308 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 7: Some fishing crappies using a bobber and one rod and 1309 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 7: then using uh just jigging action and two off. And 1310 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 7: I've just found this so many many times, all of 1311 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 7: a sudden, and this advice many times to Walley's too, 1312 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 7: but here too or Perch, is that all of a sudden, 1313 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 7: we get a bite and we start to bring that 1314 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 7: fish in, and then in the other hole. Many times 1315 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,920 Speaker 7: that happened, you get another bite. So here you're you're 1316 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 7: looking at that other hole, and you missed that first hole, 1317 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 7: and then you missed the second hole. So it's always 1318 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 7: to me, one rod, one hole. 1319 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Believe, if I'm trying to fish two holes, I get 1320 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 2: one rod screwed up and it's time it's tangled. And 1321 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 2: then I got then I got a mess because I 1322 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 2: get both rods that are tangled. 1323 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 3: Then I'm all done for a while. 1324 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, but that's very very true. I think there's 1325 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 7: a lot to be said about that. And then two 1326 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 7: shore fishing two rods is don't just lay one on 1327 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 7: the ice get sort of a rot order. But you 1328 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 7: know what's going to happen, don't you? 1329 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 2: Yeah too, you don't get it. It just kind of 1330 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 2: has a at lt they take on legs all their own. 1331 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 7: That's exactly. It's amazing. Just like with a cell phone, 1332 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 7: I don't know how to tell I heard the cell 1333 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 7: phone went right into the hole. 1334 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,480 Speaker 2: Oh you could, terry if if you're especially in a portable, 1335 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 2: you can drop a cell phone any place in there 1336 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: and it's going to. 1337 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 3: End up in the hole. 1338 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 7: That's exactly. That's on my jacket, my coat. I have 1339 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,799 Speaker 7: a pocket with a zipper, and that's where it goes. 1340 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 7: And then when I hear that somebody's trying to call, 1341 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 7: then I on zip it, get the phone out the answer. 1342 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 7: But yes, otherwise you're one hundred percent right. I don't 1343 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 7: know how many times I heard that happen, And that's 1344 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 7: something we want to try to avoid. And then you're 1345 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 7: probably not going to retrieve that. 1346 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 2: No, don't they make like a tether that for ice 1347 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 2: fishing to hold some places. I've seen them for sale, Yeah. 1348 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And then also too, what you're talking 1349 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 7: about this tether, Bob, is that there's a clear plastic 1350 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 7: that actually covers the phone with a tether of some 1351 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 7: sort of lanyard. And then two you can actually dial 1352 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 7: or you can answer the phone by not taking it 1353 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 7: out of that plastic, but you can just actually it 1354 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 7: soft enough where you can just you know, press the buttons. 1355 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you from experienced terry that when your 1356 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 2: phone goes into the hole, don't put it in your 1357 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 2: shirt pocket or your jacket pocket on your chest, because 1358 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 2: you mean bend over the hole. The phone comes out 1359 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 2: as a tennis come out when it hits the hole. 1360 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 2: It just kind of holes back and forth until it gets. 1361 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 7: Just start fluttering down right. Yeah, our lures should be doing. 1362 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 2: That's it. There's all done in your you're subjected with 1363 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 2: having to watch the day things. 1364 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 3: How long ago did. 1365 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 7: You drinking with wigglers and spikes too? If you put 1366 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 7: them in your shirt pocket and don't button your shirt pocket, 1367 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 7: that has a tenden to phote right down the whole too. 1368 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, how long ago since you dropped a cell phone 1369 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 4: down on? 1370 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 2: It's been quite a few years. But I didn't have 1371 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: any phone anymore. I had to borrow my neighbors because 1372 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 2: he's the only one I had. 1373 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 3: To work. 1374 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 7: It's really it does happen. It's happened so quick. We 1375 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 7: just we I think, we get so you know, involved 1376 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 7: in trying to catch a fish, we forget about that phone, 1377 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,680 Speaker 7: and it's so easy for it to slip. 1378 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 2: Out and even if it hits the ice terrier, it 1379 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 2: just kind of slides right over towards the phone. 1380 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 7: Heard how many times I've heard that happen. 1381 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. It bothered me a whole lot. Now, Terry, 1382 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 2: what time are what are the day? Are the times again? 1383 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 2: Out in medicine Lake today? 1384 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 7: It's going to be well. Actually the opening ceremony starts 1385 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 7: at twelve o'clock, but the main stage where they have 1386 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 7: all the announcements and interviewing and so for actually starts 1387 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 7: at eleven thirty. But if any of the listeners want 1388 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 7: to attend, you know, be there right around noon. It 1389 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 7: is just uh, you know, there's a lot going on, 1390 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 7: and especially the preliminary or the fishing contest, and I 1391 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 7: invite everybody to attend, and they also too. That's where 1392 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:51,719 Speaker 7: they introduced a new the new recruits and Minnesota recruits 1393 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 7: for that event. 1394 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 2: And then where do they access to Lake Terry? Any 1395 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 2: idea Well. 1396 01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 7: It's going to be right at the East Medicine Lake Park. 1397 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well sir, I have a wonderful day, 1398 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 2: have a good time, and I hope that it's a 1399 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 2: busy place and a lot of stuff is done. And 1400 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,839 Speaker 2: congratulations to anybody out there that's going to be winning 1401 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 2: some things too. 1402 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 7: Well, thank you so much to Bill. Yes, it's going 1403 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 7: to be. As far as weather, we couldn't ask for 1404 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 7: anything better than that, the amount of snow, and then 1405 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 7: the ice conditions, twenty two inches of ice. So it 1406 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 7: should be a wonderful time. 1407 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 3: It should be, should be. 1408 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 2: Terry will catch up in a couple of weeks. Buddy 1409 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 2: till no great to have a great day. 1410 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,759 Speaker 3: Everybody that's tackle. 1411 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,719 Speaker 2: Terry joins us every other week on Fan Outdoors, and 1412 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 2: we'll take our final pause of the morning as I 1413 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 2: have visious in the day. Phone now going down a 1414 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 2: hole and it hit the bottom. 1415 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 3: We were on Devil's Lake. 1416 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 2: Hit the bottom. 1417 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 3: You dropped your phone in Devil's Lake. I did. 1418 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 2: It's still there. I don't remember that it went. And 1419 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 2: I got back to Yeah the resort and Woodland, Yeah, 1420 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,720 Speaker 2: Woodland resort. Zippy came, Zippy Doll came up to me 1421 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,840 Speaker 2: from Perch Patrol said, Hey, did you try to call 1422 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 2: me this morning? All I could hear was gurgling. Anyway, 1423 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 2: we'll take that pause and be right back. Last segment, well, 1424 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 2: fan out doors for this morning, and we were just 1425 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 2: giggling about the holes for herpes. It's not it is 1426 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 2: holes for Heroes. Holes for Heroes. Yes, I knew that's 1427 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 2: what it was always called. But my texts from Tackle 1428 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Terry as you read, Bob, it was not your fault. 1429 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,599 Speaker 4: It stopped me in my tracks. I'd not heard of 1430 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,520 Speaker 4: that before. 1431 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 3: There could be an event for that. 1432 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 2: It would be. 1433 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 4: It would be odd, it would be a fishingfolife dot org. 1434 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 4: Holes for Heroes is the event we were just talking 1435 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 4: about on Medicine Lake this morning. Yeah, what will you 1436 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 4: be doing? 1437 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 3: Are you you want to give away some tickets. Let's 1438 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 3: give away some tickets, Let's do a lot. 1439 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 4: Take us for what the Concert for Conservation can learn 1440 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 4: about it at Pheasantfest dot org. There are sixty two 1441 01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:02,759 Speaker 4: tickets left, and after this it'll be sixty. The opening 1442 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 4: act is our buddy Dave Simonette, and that he will 1443 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 4: lead into the Turnpike Troubadours at the State Theater on Thursday, 1444 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 4: February nineteenth. Caller number eleven. We'll get two tickets to 1445 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 4: the concert for conservation three two zero five three two six. 1446 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 4: And what do they need to do if they are 1447 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 4: the winner, what will they need to do? There will 1448 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:41,679 Speaker 4: be two tickets in their name at will call Okay, yeah, 1449 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 4: so Brettel handle the phones and we're going to give 1450 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 4: away two tickets. 1451 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,519 Speaker 2: And that is a concert that I know. I've seen 1452 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 2: Dave in concert and Simonette is it's a great show. 1453 01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 3: It's really fun. But I'm not so heard or seen. 1454 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 4: You don't know Turnpike, No, I don't. Uh, they're they're 1455 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,560 Speaker 4: at near the top of my favorites. They have probably 1456 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 4: the most popular song about bird hunting that's ever been recorded. 1457 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 4: Oh it's called the bird Hunters. It was Oh, it's 1458 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 4: probably twelve years old. Now, wow, you would like them. 1459 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 4: They're kinda they're not country, they're not rock, They're right 1460 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 4: in between. And uh, yeah, it's it'll it'll generate about 1461 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars in Habitat funding for us. 1462 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 3: Cool. 1463 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,679 Speaker 4: Excuse me, so yeah, it's it's a it's a dream 1464 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,759 Speaker 4: lineup having Dave and Turnpike did it. Actually, Dave helped 1465 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 4: her co wrote one of the songs on Turnpike's new album, 1466 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 4: and Dave and the lead singer of Turnpike went quail 1467 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 4: hunting together a year ago. 1468 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 1469 01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm I'm very excited about this show. It's 1470 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 4: a Thursday night before pheasant Fest and then kind of 1471 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 4: kicks off the weekend for pheasant Fest at the Minneapolis 1472 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:13,959 Speaker 4: Convention Center. Bird Dog Parade is eleven am on Friday, 1473 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 4: February twentieth. It's outside the main gates of peasant Fest, 1474 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,879 Speaker 4: so it's open to the public. We have one hundred 1475 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 4: and twenty three dogs signed up, representing forty three different breeds. 1476 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 7: Wow. 1477 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 2: Any that you haven't seen. 1478 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 4: Beforemmm, I don't think so. 1479 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 3: I think everything. 1480 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 4: I mean there's some that have been on there once, 1481 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 4: like the blue Paccardi Spaniel, Dutch Vuchtelhund, but I don't 1482 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 4: think there's any Italian Italian. 1483 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 3: The wire haired pointing Griffon. 1484 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my that's my favorite opponent of pheasant Fest. 1485 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. 1486 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, big turnout for the bird Dove prey eleven 1487 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 4: o'clock Friday, So taking early lunch and that'll lead right 1488 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 4: to the gates opening up at noon. 1489 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 3: Very cool. 1490 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have been watching Shane Simpson on YouTube. 1491 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,759 Speaker 4: I have no idea who Shane Simpson is. That's okay, 1492 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 4: professional bass fisherman. I didn't know who the some troop troubadois. No, 1493 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:40,440 Speaker 4: Shane is is quite an accomplished turkey hunter. A turkey hunter, okay. 1494 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 2: And some of the videos with the gobbling and and uh, 1495 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 2: just getting all fired up about that and watching a 1496 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 2: tom come through the woods and the grass. 1497 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 3: And where is Shane Simpson from? 1498 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 2: He's from the Twin Cities. Does he have a TV 1499 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,840 Speaker 2: show or just does stuff on YouTube? I think it's you. 1500 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but he is. It's yeah, 1501 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 2: it's just fun when I get to this time of year. 1502 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 3: I love doing that. 1503 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 2: And each year I'll try to use a mouth caall 1504 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 2: and each year I'll just put it away. You watch 1505 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,560 Speaker 2: a lot of YouTube. I do watch fearm out of it. 1506 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 2: And have you been watching what's that the Pinoti Project? 1507 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 2: I haven't been watching that yet, but that will start 1508 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 2: real soon. 1509 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you start getting the turkey I do, and I 1510 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 4: turkey hunting is one of my favorite things to do 1511 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 4: in the small spring, and it's about the only thing 1512 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,560 Speaker 4: that is hunting going on. 1513 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:45,600 Speaker 2: It's snow goose hunting. But I really love the whole activity. 1514 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 2: I love the excitement. I love the sound of the gobble. 1515 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 2: I don't especially care to have to carry him back 1516 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 2: and tagged out. Oh come on, you like your carry No, 1517 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't, but it's you know, it's all part of 1518 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,679 Speaker 2: the game. 1519 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 3: And when they come. 1520 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 4: In, Oh my, should we go out west? You know 1521 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 4: a planet truly go to the Black Hills. We'll make 1522 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 4: an event in Nebraska. I might have you hunted Miriams before. 1523 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 2: No, No, is that the spot in stock that you 1524 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 2: keep talking about Nebraska? 1525 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, you go down to drainage and try to cut 1526 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,600 Speaker 4: them off at the pass. It's a little bit. It 1527 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 4: fits my style. And just sitting and waiting. No, I 1528 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 4: think I'm gonna. 1529 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Stay here first, and we'll see. 1530 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a sit and wait for a while, 1531 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 2: get up and move, and sit and wait for a while, 1532 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 2: get up and move and then they really what I 1533 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 2: really like to do. My favorite thing is to get 1534 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 2: to an area I know there's birds. Get there, yeah, 1535 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 2: sometimes fairly early, sometimes not, but listen for the gobbling, 1536 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 2: and then that's the direction I'm going and get out 1537 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 2: and you don't need to get real close. But when 1538 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 2: they come fly down, then if you get their attention, 1539 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 2: and even if they don't pay any attention to you 1540 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 2: first thing, you know there's a good chance they're going 1541 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 2: to come in later. And that's usually what I rely 1542 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 2: on because I often don't get up real early, sleep in. 1543 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 2: I have the best of intentions the night before, my 1544 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 2: arm goes off, and they just kind of roll over 1545 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 2: and say, yeah, they'll be there when I get there. 1546 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 2: That's what happened last year, and Eric had already tagged 1547 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,879 Speaker 2: out and often to come along, left his gun behind, 1548 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 2: and we went out there. 1549 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,519 Speaker 4: And over the last ten years, you've probably shot more 1550 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 4: turkeys at ten am than at other any other time. 1551 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,439 Speaker 3: Yes, yes I have, and I've shot. 1552 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 2: I'm looking back and I guess some amounts that I've 1553 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 2: done with the wings and the tail and putting them 1554 01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: all together, and I have five or six of those. 1555 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 2: But I'll shot a bunch of turkeys and it's it's 1556 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 2: been really, really fun. I've had I've had to do 1557 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 2: strange things show up. I least expected have some walk 1558 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,559 Speaker 2: by or blow out a gobble and it's six feet 1559 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 2: away from me, roll me off. I've had them walk 1560 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 2: right over my feet, Tom walk by, and I remember 1561 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 2: vividly them saying, don't blink because they can see you. 1562 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Don't blink. I'm holding my breath. And yeah, it's it's 1563 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 2: been really really cool. 1564 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 3: Pretty mild winter for turkeys too, yeah, I think. 1565 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 2: And they're bunched up when they're bunched up, and then 1566 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 2: by bunch up by sex. And I'm hoping that there's 1567 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,639 Speaker 2: going to be some around the cabin this year, because 1568 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 2: we've raised out there three different roots, and I've seen 1569 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 2: a number of them around there, so it'd be kind 1570 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:49,960 Speaker 2: of fun. 1571 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 4: I saw two great, big white tail bucks this week, 1572 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 4: and I thought that was sort of odd that they're 1573 01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 4: still holding on to their antlers. 1574 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 2: I think some of the antlers depend on food. 1575 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I don't don't. 1576 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 4: I was gonna I was gonna get Stan going this morning, 1577 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 4: you know, ask them about winds when the white tails 1578 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 4: have dropped their horns. But we'll have to save that 1579 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 4: for when he's not in Yellowstone. Yes, but I thought, 1580 01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 4: you know, geez, it was yesterday, February sixth, and there's 1581 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 4: still hold them onto their ante. 1582 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 3: Then of course I will chime in with the seagulls. 1583 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,799 Speaker 3: There we go. We'll get Stan going next time. 1584 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 2: We have to go. The music says that that it's 1585 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,479 Speaker 2: our time to turn it over to Tucker and Sinecon 1586 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 2: within the zone. But I want to say thank you 1587 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 2: to Stand for joining us from Yellowstone, Kelly Parmalley for 1588 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 2: getting up super super early in. 1589 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,599 Speaker 3: Mountain time and joining us. 1590 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 2: We will be at pheasant Fest, so I invite you 1591 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 2: to stop on down there, and for Tackle Terry for 1592 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,800 Speaker 2: chiming in, but thank you for allowing Bob and I 1593 01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 2: and Brett to travel with you. More Producer Brett Blake More, 1594 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Executive producer Brett Blake More, Bob Saint Pierre, my very 1595 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 2: good friend. I am Billy hilde Bred. Have a great 1596 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 2: weekend everybody. Until next week, Tata