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Speaker 1: Tom you heard me talk about the Rogers and McCarthy dynamic.

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Speaker 3: I certainly hope not, because I don't even think if

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Speaker 1: He has to fill too much space and time. He's

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Speaker 1: He said that maybe they're talking to McCarthy to get

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Speaker 2: But I think Steelers. I don't think the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: As you often point out, Kenny Pickett and picking him

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Speaker 2: Flor has made a mess in Miami. Let me ask

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Speaker 1: Again the African American thing? And I'm sorry that's a factor.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather them hire a defensive coordinator like a Shula,

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Speaker 1: Who don't want to see the Steelers rebuild, that you

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Speaker 3: Kind of feels like I'm rooting for him. Kind of

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Speaker 1: Do you have any feel for the National Championship contest

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Speaker 3: It feels like Indiana is just so much better than

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Speaker 3: You're spot on on what's just killing so much of

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Speaker 3: There's nothing else on. Well, they wrap up at eight though.

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Speaker 1: nine the X. By the way, Uh, we got some

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Speaker 1: local goalie news Tom. First off, John Gibson, who we

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get him on the show. Bianca Biraterteri

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming Gibson and Bianca did not do, because well

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, coming out onto the ice. No, no,

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Speaker 2: like during the game in the crease. Oh god.

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Speaker 1: I probably should have sent that to the album. It

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Speaker 1: was see if I say how good he was. People

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Speaker 1: might figure out who he is, but but the guys

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Speaker 1: who know no anyway, But yeah, he was a great

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Speaker 1: freaking ball hockey goalie for sure. Any hoodles, we got

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Bumbulli for the Hockey Night Show at three point thirty.

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Speaker 2: Like I said early on until four, don't forget.

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Speaker 1: At the top of this hour, I have a dream,

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Speaker 1: and I do have a dream that we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about the Steelers as much. One oh five ninety x

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, the Pen's take on the Kraken.

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Speaker 3: Game time is five.

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Speaker 1: Shenderovid Shandorovitch and Fishmen. We got my annual actually maybe

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Speaker 1: twice a year. I have a dream speech at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, Tom, I just saw an ad

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Speaker 1: on TV and now something on Twitter. Applebee's has something

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Speaker 1: called the o M Cheeseburger. It's a burger with fries cheeseburger.

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Speaker 1: I think there's bacon on a two. It's cut in

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Speaker 1: half and it's served with the with the sides down,

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Speaker 1: like the where it's cut down in a sizzling skillet

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Speaker 1: with melted queso and cheddar cheeses. So it's basically a

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Speaker 1: burger that you dip in cheese in addition to having

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Speaker 1: the cheese on it in the first place. That strikes

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Speaker 1: me as incredibly delicious and incredibly unhealthy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, both of that. I'm interested in it though, So

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Speaker 3: the burger and you would dip the fries in it.

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Speaker 3: So the burger comes off of the cheesecakes. Here's the picture,

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Speaker 3: So you would dip it in Okay, yes, it seems Oh,

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Speaker 3: it kind of looks like it's sitting inside and.

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Speaker 2: It is sitting initially in the melted cheese. Correct. I

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Speaker 2: kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: So the entire you've cut it in half then put it,

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Speaker 1: you know, the cut sides face down the.

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Speaker 3: Front of the sandwiches, the halfs of the sandwiches fast.

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Speaker 2: But I think people get the idea.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm in on this. This sounds great, and you're

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Speaker 3: dipping the fries in the cheese as well. You said

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Speaker 3: this was where Applebee's, and I love Apple Beees. I

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Speaker 3: might be doing this soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love Applebee's, Chili's.

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Speaker 2: Any of those. Yeah, They're so good.

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Speaker 1: And the menu so diverse too, Like you can get

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Speaker 1: like even even the diet I'm on on Awaken one

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Speaker 1: eighty don forty seven pounds. Now, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: can go there and it's no problem eating something.

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Speaker 3: Do people even like do you know anybody that doesn't

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Speaker 3: like those places?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: I feel like those are just universally accepted in America?

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Speaker 3: Is like, yeah, that's a great place to go for

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Speaker 3: a day.

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Speaker 2: Is Bob Evans in that group. I don't know one

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Speaker 2: of those are closed. I don't know Elite, and I

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Speaker 2: don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even know. It's a different kind of place.

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Speaker 1: But I don't even know if there's a Boston Market

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Speaker 1: left in Pitchball, Man. There used to be one near

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Speaker 1: our old station. I use Green Tree Apple. It's a

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Speaker 1: Chipotle now. I used to hit Boston Market up all

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Speaker 1: the time. Boston Market. You could Boston Market was so good.

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Speaker 1: You could go there for like a Thanksgiving dinner, get

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Speaker 1: all the stuff for it, and then pretend like you

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Speaker 1: made it at your house.

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Speaker 2: And people I.

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Speaker 1: Would like, like when when my when my mom was

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Speaker 1: ill and living in my house, I would always go

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Speaker 1: to Boston Market except one year, well this was after

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Speaker 1: she passed, but I kept doing that. Now I go

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Speaker 1: to friends, but uh, but for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: I just got in the habit of bringing the stuff home.

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Speaker 1: And Boston Market like oversold. They like like their their

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Speaker 1: machine didn't shut down the online reservations. There were like

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Speaker 1: three or four hundred people literally in the parking lot

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Speaker 1: at at the Green Tree location.

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Speaker 2: So you know where I went. I went to Giant Eagle.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're great, and but they're heat and serve stuff

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Speaker 1: and honestly it was just as good, just as good

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Speaker 1: as Boston Market.

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Speaker 3: You know why bob Evans probably doesn't qualify as the chilies, TJ.

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Speaker 3: Fridy's Applebe's the drink menu, right, Like, you can't go

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Speaker 3: to a bob Evans and just get loaded at the bar,

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Speaker 3: or can you?

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Speaker 2: Am I ill informed this crack?

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Speaker 3: No, you can't. Does cracker barrel figure in? You can

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Speaker 3: get loaded at that bar?

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Speaker 2: Right? I think they served out like that. I don't

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Speaker 2: know though.

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Speaker 3: There's like awesome drinks like Big Duck Boat drinks or

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Speaker 3: something like that. At Applebee's and chili Is. They're fun

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Speaker 3: to drink.

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Speaker 1: I do like Crackerbarel though, but I don't again, like

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Speaker 1: the two things limit my my my places where I

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Speaker 1: dine tom one is of course right now, the diet,

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Speaker 1: but the other is I'm an old man and I'm

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. As as tradition, if I don't drive past it,

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Speaker 1: you ain't got a shot, right. I love Ala Familia,

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Speaker 1: and it's expensive, but I can afford it. It's the

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Speaker 1: best Italian place going. But I don't go there because

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Speaker 1: I don't drive past that. I go there twice years,

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Speaker 1: like kind of a special occasion. I should go there weekly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But then don't you think it adds to it

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Speaker 3: that it's such a special occasion for you. It's so

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Speaker 3: good though, you couldn't ruin it. You could eat there

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Speaker 3: every day and it wouldn't be ruined.

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Speaker 1: Well like and like, I'm so conceited about having made

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Speaker 1: a decent amount of money that.

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Speaker 2: I wallow in the expense. It doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 2: I just I overtip too, oh, no doubt. I mean

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Speaker 2: Al Familia is great. You should go more.

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Speaker 1: I overtip everywhere I do. If you wait on me.

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Speaker 1: You love me, There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: I do want to talk some hockey, because we got

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Speaker 1: the hockey and I showed three point thirty leading into

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Speaker 1: Penguins pregame coverage here on the X four o'clock game

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Speaker 1: today at Seattle because in my Martin Luther King's dreams, Tom,

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Speaker 1: it was afternoon hockey in Seattle. Uh. Well, the Penguins

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Speaker 1: ever want a shootout again? The numbers don't lie. They're

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Speaker 1: one in seven in shootouts. She LOFs is one and six,

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Speaker 1: Sid is one for eight shooting, and failure and shootouts

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Speaker 1: is very likely to cost them the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think it's unbelievable too that they're one and

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Speaker 3: seven as a team and she LOFs is one and six, Like,

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Speaker 3: why is it always him? They have a rotation at goalie?

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Speaker 3: Why is he always the one in the shootouts?

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Speaker 2: I dot this is the reason.

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Speaker 1: But you ever stop to think that the other team,

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Speaker 1: if it's close, Slate says, Okay, we can beat this

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Speaker 1: guy in a shootout.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 3: but you don't. Maybe that starts to become a thing

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Speaker 3: now as they start to see that record. As far

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Speaker 3: as their question will they ever win a shoot out again?

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Speaker 3: I hope Skinner gets a shot at it. I think

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Speaker 3: that's your really only shot. But it is fair to

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Speaker 3: say the shooters are failing too, Like it's it's a

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Speaker 3: two week part here.

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Speaker 1: But it's weird too because like kids won for eight

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Speaker 1: but they won't pull him now, and they have pulled

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Speaker 1: Malkin and La Tang who were regulars. Uh boit Chinnikov's

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Speaker 1: I mean three goals in in u in nine games

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Speaker 1: since joining the team, and two goals in the shootout.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the goalie thing, never mind the shootouts tom At

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Speaker 1: this point, I would start Skinner more instead of this

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Speaker 1: totally even goalie rotation. I'm not saying the bench shutoffs,

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Speaker 1: but I might go two out of every three with Skinner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree Skinner.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just a little bit better, and there

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Speaker 1: is the shootout factor that can't be ignored.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit better. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: was in the Stanley Cup the past couple of years.

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Speaker 3: He's just a professional goaltender, so I would do the same.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: If they do pull the trigger on Marishov, though after

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Speaker 3: the Olympics, then I would go back to a true

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Speaker 3: rotation there until I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think they're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's their one little corner of the franchise

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Speaker 1: that is saved for development as opposed to I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that so foolish to you? Yes? Why would you

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Speaker 2: deviate everywhere? Rucker mcgordy's going back to the minors for.

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Speaker 1: God, say, I think that's to play some games after

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Speaker 1: he was like, what was it conession with the concussion? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but chilloffs. He's he's not played horribly, but he's almost

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Speaker 1: always good for a bad goal and sit on the

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Speaker 1: shootout Like, here's what I don't care about him on

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Speaker 1: the shootout. He is the best player in the history

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Speaker 1: of hockey on his backhand, and he's one of the fastest,

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Speaker 1: most alarming players with the rate of speed he comes

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Speaker 1: at you. Yet in the shootout he comes in slow

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Speaker 1: and never uses his backhand. And now it's built because

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Speaker 1: he's a creature habit.

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Speaker 3: But that habit is built up so much now that

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Speaker 3: the first time he does come in with speed and

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Speaker 3: goes to his backhand, I guarantee you he scores it

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Speaker 3: because the goal is gonna be like, what the hell

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Speaker 3: he didn't do his move.

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Speaker 1: I will say, these Penguins don't quit. I mean some

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Speaker 1: things are like very evident. And I think when they

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Speaker 1: run nder Sully that they got frustrated when they were behind.

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Speaker 2: I don't think and I thought Sully did too.

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Speaker 1: And look what's going on in New York now with

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Speaker 1: the Rangers, by the way, and they issued a statement

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Speaker 1: like apologizing and saying we're not going to be rebuilt,

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Speaker 1: but we're kind of going to rebuild, and then they

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Speaker 1: had to Selly about rebuilding. And then he's talked about

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Speaker 1: coaching like to somewhat be developmental, which he abjectively refused

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Speaker 1: to do. Here, it's like Crowley said, he left the

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Speaker 1: Penguins and went to the Rangers and again gets to

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Speaker 1: coach the Penguins. But the Penguins have scored three goals

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Speaker 1: with the goalie pulled in the last seven games.

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Speaker 2: They do keep coming, yeah, no question.

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Speaker 3: But everything about this team is honestly really good. As

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Speaker 3: far as I'm turning a head of schedule. It's the

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Speaker 3: shootout thing. If they were just you know, three and

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Speaker 3: five in shootouts, they'd be tied with the Islanders for

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Speaker 3: second place with a game in hand.

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Speaker 1: They're nine to one in three against their division. They

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Speaker 1: have the second fewest regulation losses in the conference, and

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Speaker 1: somehow they're just on the playoff fringes, which makes no

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Speaker 1: sense except if you if you do a deep dive

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Speaker 1: like we've been talking about, it does make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they could just fix their shootout woes, they

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Speaker 3: would have a strangleholder close to one on that second

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Speaker 3: spot in the East. He'd be kind of looking at

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Speaker 3: Carolina and saying, hey, Carolina, you slip a little bit

653
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Speaker 3: or we get hot, you're in striking distance. But they

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Speaker 3: screwed up already too much in the shootouts to have

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Speaker 3: a dream of catching number one.

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Speaker 2: Well, that that's strangle. That's what they said about Ted

657
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Speaker 2: Nugent Wango Zee Tango.

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Speaker 1: I will also say Mere switched the line, some worked,

659
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Speaker 1: some didn't. Kindle Braso and Manta Aret scoring. I might

660
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Speaker 1: sit Kindle a game, and that's no knock on a kid,

661
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Speaker 1: But he's gone a bunch of games without scoring. I

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Speaker 1: think sixteen. I think he's still playing okay, but I

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Speaker 1: think he could use a break. Then again, you got

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Speaker 1: the Olympic break coming up. But Malkin and Shitakoff are

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Speaker 1: a real good combination that might, I add, a victory

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Speaker 1: for modern communism.

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Speaker 3: If I know you, you want to turn the patron

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Speaker 3: Malkin mark. But if they come back next year and

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Speaker 3: he plays wing and Kindle can be the second line center,

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you more open to it at all?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, at some point you gotta go to move on.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Parts with Cutch MACKI wrote this giant

674
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Speaker 1: calm of the parts should keep catching, then give him

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Speaker 1: a job in the front office, to which I said, Okay,

676
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Speaker 1: who he ever beat?

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Speaker 3: Malkin's better than Coutch. But I feel you, I feel you.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just gotta move on.

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Speaker 1: Couch is gonna get a statue which will reflect an

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Speaker 1: era where no player deserves a statue, but they want

681
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Speaker 1: to do it for somebody. Penguins now got four road

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Speaker 1: games today at Seattle and then Western Canada. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get four points out of eight, Tom, what about maybe

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Speaker 1: four shootout losses?

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Speaker 3: I would love it. I'll take it. As long as

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Speaker 3: you get the four points out of eight. I mean,

687
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Speaker 3: they're really in a good spot as far as third

688
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Speaker 3: place is concerned. As long as they don't have another

689
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Speaker 3: like five or six game losing streak. They should be

690
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Speaker 3: okay as far as being top three in the metro.

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Speaker 3: That's their path too. Don't you think the wild Cards

692
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Speaker 3: starting to slip away from them even though they are

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Speaker 3: in third place because he got teams like Toronto who

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Speaker 3: are on the outside, who have more points than the

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Speaker 3: Penguins and are red hot right now.

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Speaker 2: You know what's truly weird And this happens so often.

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Speaker 1: Like remember back when like sid would get hurt and

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00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: Malcolm would start playing better even though Malkin had been

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Speaker 1: playing good, H'd like take it up a notch. Carlson

700
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Speaker 1: got hurt, but Tank's played his best two games of

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Speaker 1: the season the last two without Carlson.

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Speaker 3: That is kind of so Carlston made the trip though,

703
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Speaker 3: like he might be back.

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Speaker 2: That's big for the Penguins.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got to get warmed up for the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: You still a pit basketball guy.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: I was at the Louisville game on that not what

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Speaker 3: they lose by. It was like one hundred and fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: I think I left early there was it like forty

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Speaker 3: two to twelve was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do there? Do you fire Capele.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do, but it feels tropical

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Speaker 3: in the Pete Mark, I'll tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It feels far worse than tropical. At least Jackie Moon

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Speaker 1: knew how to promote a game, right, you know? Top

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Speaker 1: three anyway, one O five nine the X from the.

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Speaker 3: One oh five nine the ex Weather Center.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be cloudy, windy and cold today. I

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Speaker 2: have only twenty one d X double IM on the X.

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Speaker 1: This segment brought to us, well, the whole first I

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Speaker 1: brought to us by Sandro Rova, Shandrorovits and Fisherman Tom.

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Speaker 2: What do we got for the trifectam?

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Speaker 3: I got a trifecta of really great stats coming off

726
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Speaker 3: of the divisional round weekend. Well, I'd say two great

727
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Speaker 3: stats and then one. I kind of just had to

728
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Speaker 3: force in here because this is a trifecta. Number three,

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Speaker 3: the Texans and the Patriots combined for eight turnovers. That's

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Speaker 3: the most since twenty fifteen in a playoff game almost

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Speaker 3: a decade.

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Speaker 2: They just kept giving the ball back. In four I

733
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Speaker 2: was a kid, there was a Steelers Houston Oilers playoffs.

734
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Speaker 2: I saw turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Steelers won it right in a blowout too. It was

736
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Speaker 3: like thirty four to six or something.

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Speaker 2: It was a nutty game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well here are the two great stats. Sean McVay.

739
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Speaker 3: He won his tenth playoff game under the age of forty.

740
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Speaker 3: He's thirty nine. He doesn't turn forty until this Saturday.

741
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Speaker 3: No other coach has won more than five under the

742
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Speaker 3: age of forty. He's doubled everybody up, John Madden, Mike Tomlin,

743
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Speaker 3: John Gruden, they all won five before turning forty.

744
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Speaker 2: He just won ten. Forgot John Madden started that long.

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Speaker 1: It should be noted though there were less playoff games

746
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Speaker 1: back then unless you made the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Still still very impressive. He's a genius coach. He's probably

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Speaker 2: the best coach right now going, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Think, considering how he's gotten through the building and now

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Speaker 1: they're potentially back in the Super Bowl. I think that

751
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Speaker 1: Seattle Rams game is going to be just displights out.

752
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Speaker 3: But number one Josh Allen So this was his eighth

753
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Speaker 3: or this was his seventh playoff appearance.

754
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Speaker 2: He failed to make it to the Super Bowl.

755
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Speaker 3: That means he will at least have eight playoff appearances

756
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Speaker 3: before going to his Super Bowl. No quarterback who has

757
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Speaker 3: ever been in Super Bowl took longer than seven playoff

758
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Speaker 3: appearances to get to that Super Bowl. Winners or lose,

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Speaker 3: we are to trust the past. He will never he

760
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Speaker 3: will never get to the Super Bowl. Peyton Manning did

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Speaker 3: it after on his seventh in a Super Bowl starting

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Speaker 3: to doubt it.

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Speaker 2: I really am.

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Speaker 1: I think this was such a great window. Although it

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Speaker 1: should be noted that they had to play all road

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Speaker 1: playoff games. But still, but still with no Mahomes de

767
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Speaker 1: beat his bogee quarterback, the Chiefs being his bogee team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like a golden opportunity. And that other stat

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Speaker 1: it's not part of my trifecta, but you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: Now he's oz for seven in overtime, regular season and playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just not very clutch. Apparently the trifector

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Speaker 1: brought was by Danny's Pets and Hogs, Pittsburgh's original oven

773
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Speaker 1: baked Togy since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's on Route eighty

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Speaker 1: in Bethel Park. You know, we talked earlier about the

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Speaker 1: National Championship game tonight INDI end of Miami and how

776
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Speaker 1: the season's gone on too long and I've said on

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Speaker 1: this show over the last couple of weeks, I believe

778
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Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna start playing games on Saturday on

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Speaker 1: the regular, perhaps beginning as early as next season. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about from October on. Do you think the NFL

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Speaker 1: sees college football? What with nil and the season being extended,

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Speaker 1: do you think that they see college football as a

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Speaker 1: competitive league in some ways.

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Speaker 3: I think they're starting to shift that viewpoint as opposed

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Speaker 3: to it being a free minor leagues, which is what

786
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Speaker 3: has always been.

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Speaker 2: So the NFL is always kind of and it still is.

788
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Speaker 1: But again, x amount of guys that'd like to see

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Speaker 1: in the league, like Arch Manning are coming back to

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Speaker 1: make you know, seven million in Art's case in NIOL

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Speaker 1: money in Texas. And with the way the playoff has

792
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Speaker 1: been extended the obviously as evidence by the National Championship

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Speaker 1: Game being tonight, college football is encroaching on the NFL's time.

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Speaker 3: But the part about the players going back to college

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Speaker 3: I think is the big one where they would have

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Speaker 3: a problem with because it's weakening draft classes. Like now

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Speaker 3: you're starting to see I forget the number, there's an

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Speaker 3: actual number, can't.

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Speaker 2: Predict draft class. It's harder to plan for draft, no doubt,

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Speaker 2: and like this underclassman.

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Speaker 3: I mean the ones that came out early, those were

802
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Speaker 3: the studs because they're coming out early and you're not

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Speaker 3: having that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Although I just contradicted something I always say, Tom, because

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Speaker 1: I think the draft is so easy to prepare for.

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Speaker 1: I think you could get the Our Lads Draft Guide,

807
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Speaker 1: which is uncandidly accurate in the order of picks, and

808
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Speaker 1: just use that to draft your team. And I think

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Speaker 1: when arch Manning decides to not go into the draft,

810
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Speaker 1: whoever drafted a quarterback just crosses his name off the

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Speaker 1: list and goes one more down.

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Speaker 3: There's so many websites right now, like you're saying, that

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Speaker 3: do this work for you. It would be funny if

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Speaker 3: a front office was just like all these people just

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Speaker 3: do it for free. I'm just gonna go to the

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Speaker 3: internet and rip them off. Oh that's where we should

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Speaker 3: be taking.

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Speaker 2: The Hour Lads Guide. Yeah, it's great. I mean they

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