WEBVTT - 12-31-25 Ken Broo in for Willie

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<v Speaker 1>All right, the average American in for the great American

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<v Speaker 1>on this New Year's Eve Day, twenty twenty five. And

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are, Happy New Year to you. People walk

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<v Speaker 1>around they say Happy New Year all the time, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>New Year. What was it to mean? Well for me

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<v Speaker 1>when I say that, and I just don't say it

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<v Speaker 1>just throwing it out everybody. I don't run into everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and say Happy New Year. It means happy and healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and safe. Because if you don't have your safety and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have your health, it doesn't matter a bit

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<v Speaker 1>what else you have. You can have all the money

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, but if you're not happy, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy, and you're not safe, well then it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter, doesn't So that's when I say Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see you out on the street today or

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<v Speaker 1>out someplace tonight, That's what I mean when I say

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, because I think those are the three

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<v Speaker 1>things I think that we would wish anybody in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those three things is safety. Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, we are all responsible for our safety. We

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<v Speaker 1>all should have our antenna up. It is just the

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<v Speaker 1>time that we live in. Some things we need help

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<v Speaker 1>in achieving safety. I mean we can't certainly be attuned

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<v Speaker 1>to everything that's going on around us, let alone around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And that's where the authorities come in, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they be local or state, or federal or whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, that's their job to charge their charge with

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<v Speaker 1>keeping us safe. And so tonight would be one of

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<v Speaker 1>those nights when if you're out reveling, or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>out anywhere tomorrow reveling, it would be wise for you

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<v Speaker 1>to walk around with the old antenna up. We know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in New Orleans last New Year's Eve, New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's morning, when fourteen people were murdered as a driver

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<v Speaker 1>who was compromised in his political beliefs by let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>some some far left thinking that occurs around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>drove his pickup truck through the streets of New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>in the quarter, killing fourteen people, taking a gun out,

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<v Speaker 1>and finishing off those who were not run over by

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<v Speaker 1>his truck. Those things, unfortunately happened, They happen in our country,

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<v Speaker 1>they happen all over. But as we look around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>we find that there are some cities that are just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, We're just not going to hold New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve celebrations anymore, And to me, that's sad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sad on a number of different levels. It's sad for

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<v Speaker 1>those that can't revel. But it's also said that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we've become as a society. But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as cities prepare for New Year's Eve events tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>fear of terror attacks run high. How fearful should we be?

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<v Speaker 1>What should we do to keep our saves as safe

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<v Speaker 1>as possible? Standing by to join me is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's been a good guest of my program good guests

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<v Speaker 1>here on seven hundred WLW for many many years. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Dale Carmen is a criminologist. He taught criminology at

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<v Speaker 1>the collegiate level, consulting with over twenty five years of

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<v Speaker 1>experience working with federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's great he can spend some time with us

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<v Speaker 1>now here on seven hundred WLWE. Doctor, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>on this glorious New Year's Eve day?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great because I'm talking with you, ken.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, God bless you for saying that. And I meant it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say Happy New Year, I meant all three

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. And to you in particular. Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop everything bad that may happen. The bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>only have to be right once. The good guys have

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<v Speaker 1>got to be right one hundred percent of the time. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that last year in New Orleans. But at

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<v Speaker 1>what level do you think you, me, and anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>that might be out there tonight or tomorrow, at what

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<v Speaker 1>level do you think we have to be on alert

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<v Speaker 1>on this particular New Year's Eve?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I think that we always need to

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<v Speaker 3>be on alert, right, whether there's New Year's Eve or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just regular day, you know, in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I think that are there

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<v Speaker 3>any specific threats No, are there specific areas that we

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<v Speaker 3>are concerned about. No, But at the same time, given

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<v Speaker 3>what happened last year, as you know that in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 3>given that you know, sometimes these individuals that want to

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<v Speaker 3>cause harm on good people are people that have an imagination, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>and they try to circumvent the efforts that are made

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<v Speaker 3>by law enforcement. I think we always need to be

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<v Speaker 3>on alert, especially if you're going to be out tonight

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<v Speaker 3>in a large crowd, you know, a condensed space. Always

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<v Speaker 3>be situationally aware, always know where your exits, where your

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<v Speaker 3>points of entry are, and have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's true of anything, if not

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<v Speaker 1>terror fear. Certainly you need to know how to get

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of a place where a case fire

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<v Speaker 1>breaks out or a brawl breaks out, where's the exit

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<v Speaker 1>do or how do I get out? We saw already

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<v Speaker 1>this year that the FEDS had had foiled a New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve plot, a bombing plot that was in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles about ten days ago. I sense, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this from anything other than just a

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<v Speaker 1>since that this particular group at the FBI that's been

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<v Speaker 1>in place for the last six seven months, I since

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<v Speaker 1>they've got their eye on the proverbial ball more than

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<v Speaker 1>what the group that was in there before them. Do

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sense that as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Ken, I think that the FBI has been

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<v Speaker 3>rerouted back to its original premise, right that he was

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<v Speaker 3>fighting terrorism, and certainly after ninety eleven, you know, that

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<v Speaker 3>was that was the mandate that the bureau you know, got,

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<v Speaker 3>and and they have deviated from that in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, and gone into other areas.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that what's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>In the past six to eight months, is that they've.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sort of you know, begin went back to what

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<v Speaker 3>they were originally, you know, purpose for back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>after ninety of it. And so I'm not used to

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<v Speaker 3>fight terrorism, and I think that there's a more significant

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<v Speaker 3>focus of resources and as well as people that are

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<v Speaker 3>devoted now to ensure that we're safe and ensure that

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<v Speaker 3>these terrorist don't get away with a killing in US

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<v Speaker 3>in Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>As I sit, the FBI field office here in cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 1>right next door to us, and it's a massive structure.

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<v Speaker 1>It employees a lot of people. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great people that work inside that building, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the agents that work inside there, but other people that

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<v Speaker 1>work inside there. What do you think cash Betel's message

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<v Speaker 1>was or is maybe to these various field offices around

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<v Speaker 1>the country on this particular night. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to give these people to pev talk or

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<v Speaker 1>tell them exactly what could or may not happen and

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<v Speaker 1>where they need to be. I'm just just wondering how

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<v Speaker 1>that works at the FBI level.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can tell you that the bureau, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's obviously hierarchical organization where the top rolls down the

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<v Speaker 3>mission and it goes all the way to the last

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<v Speaker 3>agent or civilian working at the Bureau. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that I'm certain that's happened is

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<v Speaker 3>that that back, you know, six months ago, is you

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<v Speaker 3>know that you know, these these marching orders were given

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<v Speaker 3>and they were given with absolutely no subject to interpretation,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning that they're basically told you need to fight thereor

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever you can to ensure that Americans are safe

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<v Speaker 3>and to ensure that we are going to protect the homeland.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what that means for tonight is that there

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<v Speaker 3>is a strong likelihood that the Bureau has been working

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four seven, and especially in places like New York, LA, Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas at all, they have been working to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that they're behind the scenes, but that they're watching, that

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<v Speaker 3>they're carefully monitoring, that they're sweeping social media resources just

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that people are going to be safe tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I would suggest to.

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<v Speaker 2>You that there is a likelihood that many agents are.

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<v Speaker 3>Not going to go to sleep tonight, or are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be celebrating New Years with their families. Instead

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be monitoring something to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>people go back home safely tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is great, and it is in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense, in a lot, in a large sense,

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<v Speaker 1>thankless work because you know, when you're protected from anything, doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of say, okay, good. When things don't

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<v Speaker 1>go right, that's when everybody gets up in arms. But

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<v Speaker 1>when when when things go right, these agents that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there, I don't think at the respect or the

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<v Speaker 1>admiration that they deserve. Do you find that too? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's true in a lot of police work. Right

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<v Speaker 1>when things go well, nobody walks up to a police

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<v Speaker 1>officer and says, hey, things are going well tonight. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>But if all hill breaks loose, you're yelling and screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at the cop to come over here and do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think admiration for police work has greatly disintegrated here

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<v Speaker 1>in the last several years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no question.

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<v Speaker 3>As I often tell police officers, as you know, hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand of them for the past twenty eight years. I've

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<v Speaker 3>worked at the FBI Academy and Quantico Service and instructor there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you, as I often tell them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, triumph has many fathers, and defeat is an orphan.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I mean by that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that many people just don't you know, these folks

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<v Speaker 3>are working twenty four seven and they're successful. When nothing happens, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and as you know, you know, people are just popasetic

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<v Speaker 3>about it. The next day, they're going back to their business. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing happened last night, and they don't even think about

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<v Speaker 3>the thousands of hours and the sleepless nights that many

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<v Speaker 3>of these young men and women in various entities in

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement have devoted in order to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>people go home that night safely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, doctor del Carmen, not that native born

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<v Speaker 1>Americans aren't capable of carrying out heinous crimes, But I

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<v Speaker 1>do worry about what's transpired here with regards to the

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<v Speaker 1>invasion our country suffered under the last administration from the

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<v Speaker 1>southern border on a number of differ levels. We just

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<v Speaker 1>open the floodgates and let everybody in. And we let

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<v Speaker 1>people in. We have absolutely no idea what their intentions are.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're good intentions, who knows, but maybe it's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten percent of the up to eighteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million I've seen the estimates of people that have been

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<v Speaker 1>let in here. Up to ten percent could be in

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<v Speaker 1>here doing nothing but nefarious things. And even if it

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<v Speaker 1>is that ten percent, that's a large number of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are in this country illegally that may have come

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<v Speaker 1>here to do some sort of harm. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>worry about more than anything else. I know the current

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<v Speaker 1>administration is trying to get its arms around as many

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<v Speaker 1>of these people as possible and get them the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of our country, but I think it will not

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<v Speaker 1>be accomplished inside of the current admission administration's tenure, which

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<v Speaker 1>is now another three years, and whether remnants of that

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<v Speaker 1>administration those that follow in the footsteps of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>believe the same thing. Who knows. We don't know right here,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what worries me the most. We let so

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<v Speaker 1>many people out of this country. We have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell they're doing here, what they're up to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what bothers me the most here on this New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve twenty twenty five. Am I wrong in feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I worry as a criminologist about many things, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that I'm concerned about, I

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<v Speaker 3>think certainly no democracy can survive by simply opening the

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<v Speaker 3>doors and letting people in without having an organized migration

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<v Speaker 3>component into our country. And so I agree with you

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<v Speaker 3>and sins that you know, we need to we need

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<v Speaker 3>to get our act together. We need to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that we know who's coming in and who's getting out,

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<v Speaker 3>and we understand the nature of what that person is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't disagree with that, but I do worry

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<v Speaker 3>about many many things in addition to the individuals that

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<v Speaker 3>are here illegally right. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I worry about is the fact that many of these

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<v Speaker 3>attacks are done by individuals that are long wolfers. They're

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<v Speaker 3>people that have been radicalized, you know, at home, They're

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<v Speaker 3>you know, reading stuff from the Internet. They're making deals

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<v Speaker 3>with who they think.

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<v Speaker 2>Is ISIS or sympathizers with ISIS.

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<v Speaker 3>And they turn around and they go inflict pain and

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<v Speaker 3>harm on the American public. And so for me, as

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<v Speaker 3>a criminologist, I go where the crime is because I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure it doesn't happen, regardless of who's

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling you is is that among many things that I

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<v Speaker 3>worry about is that we have these sort of cells,

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<v Speaker 3>individual cells across our country that we really don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who they are, and law enforcement doesn't have the capability

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<v Speaker 3>right now of being able to identify these bad actors

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<v Speaker 3>before they show their ugly face and go out there

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<v Speaker 3>and commit harm against Ennis and Americans. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about, for our children and for our children's children.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Alex Stalekhmon criminologists are guest. Yes, the lone Wolf. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose if you're going to narrow it down to

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, it's the lone wolf. Somebody that's sitting at home,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe on the dark Web, maybe, as you say, conversing

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<v Speaker 1>with someone they think is isis, or someone that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change them from some ideological standpoint and make their

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<v Speaker 1>world better. Maybe they're gamers. They're sitting on the computer

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and they're playing games where people can get

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<v Speaker 1>shot indiscriminately, and so, in a sense, reality and fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>really don't have a line separating them, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you've got somebody that decides I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and do exactly what I'm being told

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<v Speaker 1>to do from a number of different things that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming into my mind. I don't simply don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you stop the lone wolf. I get how the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>foiled that plot about ten days ago, because you simply

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of people involved in it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>more people you have involved with something, chances are somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is going to say something that will help you foil

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<v Speaker 1>that plot. But I don't know how you stop the

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<v Speaker 1>lone wolf. I don't know how an FBI agent. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how a cop in any town where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati, doctor, we're not a big city where a

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<v Speaker 1>city made up of individual communities in towns, each with

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<v Speaker 1>their own police force. I simply don't know how anyone

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<v Speaker 1>can stop a lone wolf. It has to be in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, it's got to be a lot of sheer

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<v Speaker 1>luck that something or some sort of information falls into

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<v Speaker 1>that particular police officer's lap, because lone wolves are the

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<v Speaker 1>things that, at least for me, scare me the most.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to what we talked about from what occurred

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southern Border, how do you stop a lone wolf?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that artificially intelligence is going to really

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<v Speaker 3>help us, believe it or not. And I know if

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<v Speaker 3>people see it as kind of like the evil, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>creeping up behind the scenes, but artificial intelligence has has definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>it definitely has a role in being able to identify

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<v Speaker 3>individuals that have an ideological presence online. And what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean by that is just imagine the human hours that

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<v Speaker 3>you and I would have to spend in going over

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<v Speaker 3>websites and various narratives that are written by people to

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<v Speaker 3>see if certain words, if certain people are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>say that, hey, this is my manifesto, I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>go out there and cause some harm on someone. But

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<v Speaker 3>then imagine a computer that's able to do that in

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<v Speaker 3>milliseconds and in a matter of say, ten minutes, would

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<v Speaker 3>give you a read out as to what individuals online

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<v Speaker 3>are close to making threats or making threats by using

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<v Speaker 3>certain words, or have a certain profile based on IP addresses.

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<v Speaker 3>Law enforcement will have those tools very soon. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they already do it in some ways, but they're actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to have an institutionalized very soon to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to identify those patterns in a matter of seconds. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I do think that there is help coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you, I worry about what happens between now and then.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I'm also concerned about is that, as you

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<v Speaker 3>will know, some of these actors are overseas and where

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<v Speaker 3>we have very limited jurisdiction and in some cases we

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<v Speaker 3>have no jurisdiction at all, because you know, these are

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<v Speaker 3>countries that harbor terrorism. And I'm concerned about what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen, right, But one fight at a time, as

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<v Speaker 3>we say in my field, and you know, we need

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<v Speaker 3>to wait to see what AI is going to do

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<v Speaker 3>in the coming years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, doctor del Carmen, I knew you from your days

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<v Speaker 1>as an instructor, educating fertile young minds about how to

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<v Speaker 1>solve some of the crimes that are committed inside this

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<v Speaker 1>country and the best police work for it. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>you now? What are you up to now, doctor del Carmen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm actually retiring from the academic world, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing consulting work for the next ten to fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to devote the rest of my life to

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<v Speaker 3>work with law enforcement and try to make our community

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<v Speaker 3>safer and better. And so I am between Dallas and

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<v Speaker 3>Connecticut and fartments in Connecticut. So I'm closer to my

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<v Speaker 3>growing up children now and enjoying life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny how that works, Doc. When I say Happy

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<v Speaker 1>New Year, I hope you heard the intro. It means

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<v Speaker 1>not just happiness, which is very important, but great health

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<v Speaker 1>and good safety, and that's what I wish for you

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<v Speaker 1>on this New Year's eeve. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>your time. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Likewise, Ken, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Combye so God that knows his business inside out, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it is coming up on twelve twenty six. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>average American and for the great American News Radio seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred wl W, we welcome back, well love back. Three years,

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<v Speaker 1>one year, twenty five. We have made it through yet

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<v Speaker 1>another trip around the sun, or just about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get ahead of the curve here because

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<v Speaker 1>we still have for a few hours to go less

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<v Speaker 1>than twelve. But nevertheless we have arrived through yet another

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<v Speaker 1>year and on into twenty twenty six. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there making predictions about twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>how good it's going to be economically, and how the

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<v Speaker 1>country is going to turn around, and how Main Street

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<v Speaker 1>may eventually catch up to Wall Street. And like most predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to let them play out. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just sit there and pontificate about what ifs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the indicators are to be better for all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly some of us, but I think all of us

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six. And you have to think that way,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you, Because if you a don't, and what's the

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<v Speaker 1>point of pressing on? You got to feel that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be better for you financially, that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to cost so much to buy a house if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a first time homeowner, it's not going to cost

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<v Speaker 1>so much to go to the grocery store. Prices are

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<v Speaker 1>falling despite what the mainstream media, what have you believe?

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<v Speaker 1>For them, it's a lot of Trump hate, and energy

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.720
<v Speaker 1>prices are down for you, for me at the pump,

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<v Speaker 1>and in terms of diesel fuel, which powers interstate trucking,

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<v Speaker 1>interstate trucking becomes cheaper, Prices for goods and services become cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the standard of economics internationally, though that's a different deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The hotspots are all over the world, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>has just popped up in recent months, and that is Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>And President Trump has been blown up drug boats from

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela for about the last two or three months, a

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<v Speaker 1>blockade of Venezuela. He wants the oil that's in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the whole thing. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>drug boats are just a precursor to what he really wants,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he wants that stuff that's under the turf

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<v Speaker 1>in Venezuela that once belonged to United States oil companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a little bit of that and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of the Monroe doctrine. President James Monroe eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three issues the Monroe doctrine, basically telling Europe, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you mess with our hemisphere and we're coming after you.

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<v Speaker 1>The Western hemisphere, he said, was closed to European colonization. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because he didn't want Latin American nations being taken

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<v Speaker 1>over by Europe. Though it's a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But there's a deeper story here, and for

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<v Speaker 1>that we turned to a guy who's been studying things

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<v Speaker 1>in Venezuela for a very long time. In fact, Joshua

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Phillips is one of those who's uniquely qualified to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what's happening there and the consequences that are involved.

0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>He's an award winning journalist, senior investigative reporter at the

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<v Speaker 1>Epic time hosts his own show Crossroads that he's here

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<v Speaker 1>now to talk about Venezuela. Joshua Philip, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>on this glorious.

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<v Speaker 6>Day doing well. An interesting step to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I can say that absolutely more than interesting. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Trump is up to in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 6>So I predicted it and then it came out the

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<v Speaker 6>new National Security Plan and Secretary of warpetegs that have

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<v Speaker 6>set it publicly. Now this is about the re establishment

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<v Speaker 6>of the Monroe doctrine, and I think we saw the

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<v Speaker 6>examples of this because you know it started off their

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<v Speaker 6>blowing up the drug cartel boats. There's more context to

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<v Speaker 6>that actually that actually ties into Venezuela having been on

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<v Speaker 6>the cusp of invading Guyana just literally a couple months

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<v Speaker 6>before they started bombing those boats. The latest one, though,

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<v Speaker 6>is the intercept of this Iranian oil tanker that was

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<v Speaker 6>violating sanctions and trading in oil and so I think

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<v Speaker 6>I think what you're seeing now is they're not just

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<v Speaker 6>going after like venezuel and drugs, They're going after the

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<v Speaker 6>core parts of the Venezuelan unofficial economy and what really matters.

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<v Speaker 6>In the new National Security Plan, they've announced that the

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<v Speaker 6>Trump administration will once again be enforcing them in Roe

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<v Speaker 6>doctor which means Latin America, no foreign countries involved. If

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<v Speaker 6>you're not there so Europe, China, Russia, Iran no involvement

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<v Speaker 6>in Latin America. And the interesting thing with Venezuela is

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<v Speaker 6>that Venezuela under h sorry Hugo Java is and now

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<v Speaker 6>Maduro being of course Javas's pick, he hand picked him.

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<v Speaker 6>Chavas actually was the one, working with Thedel Castro on

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<v Speaker 6>Cuba who pushed the United States out of the region.

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<v Speaker 6>And the way they did it was they established regional

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<v Speaker 6>pseudo powers like organizations of states that did not involve

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<v Speaker 6>the United States or Canada. So really, toppling what Venezuela

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<v Speaker 6>has come to represent in Latin America would be the

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<v Speaker 6>very first step necessary to re establish the Monroe doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Monroe doctrine has been around for over two hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>so named after President James Monroe, who basically told the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world, look, if you're thinking about colonizing

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<v Speaker 1>any of the Americas, forget about it. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>your territory. Okay, got that. But I still don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump's endgame is with all of this. Is what

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<v Speaker 1>is his endgame?

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<v Speaker 6>The endgame, I think is power shift in power. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know what's really interesting with Venezuela, and Maduro. Even

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<v Speaker 6>the Biden administration had this policy and I should built

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<v Speaker 6>the National Security Plan. I mean huge bipartisan support. It's

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<v Speaker 6>probably going to get passed. In fact, Democrats and Repubpkins

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<v Speaker 6>in the House joined pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>Heavily to pass it.

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<v Speaker 6>Even when Biden was president, they were talking about power

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<v Speaker 6>change in Venezuela. They said publicly they did not recognize

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<v Speaker 6>them as the official leader of the country. They said,

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<v Speaker 6>he's the leader of the Cartel of the Suns, which

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<v Speaker 6>is a terrorist organization, which means that they could justifiably

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<v Speaker 6>do a target strike or navy seals rate or something

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<v Speaker 6>kill him. And there's also a government in waiting for Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 6>which both Trump and Biden have acknowledged. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 6>transition government in waiting. The guy lives in Florida. It's

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<v Speaker 6>Juan Glido. And you know, it wouldn't mean he'd be

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<v Speaker 6>in power per se. But they have a process already

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<v Speaker 6>established because of again the twenty eighteen elections in Venezuela

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<v Speaker 6>mass protests, and they believe there's enough popular support for

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<v Speaker 6>that that toppling Maduro would not be a difficult process.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Meduro is in power. The only people that

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<v Speaker 1>want Maduro in power right now appear to be Meduro

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<v Speaker 1>and his cronies. But Trump's got something to figure out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think eventually you run out of cigar boats carrying

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<v Speaker 1>drugs to blow up, and eventually there are only so

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>many tankers you can seize. So again, what's his endgame here?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it boots on the ground in Venezuela. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he has an appetite for that in Venezuela or anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>How does he get Maduro out of power? How does

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<v Speaker 1>he stop these cartels who basically run Venezuela at the

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>behesta Maduro. How does he get those cartels to stop

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>transferring drugs up to the United States? I mean, there's

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>got to be some sort of plan here. What's the endgame?

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 4>I think?

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 6>I think what they're going to do is they're going

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 6>to either force Maduro to step down or they're going

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 6>to kill him. What because he's again having designated the

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 6>cartel the SUNS as both a terrorist organization and as

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 6>again the you know, targeted cartel organization, right and with

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 6>Maduro being designated the leader of it and basically head

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 6>the heads of the state and military being deemed leaders

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 6>of it. What you're going to be watching is Maduro

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 6>is going to be treated like Bin Laden. He's the

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 6>new bin Laden. And we don't have to engage in

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 6>the full military to overthrow bin Laden. You just go

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 6>in there, rate him at you know, midnight whatever, shoot

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 6>him and throw him off and throw him into the

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 6>ocean like you know that that could very likely happen.

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 6>Trump has said publicly that he will not start a war.

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 6>There is not going to be a full scale war.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 6>But Maduro's days are numbered, and it seems he has

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 6>given him a will ultimatum. Step down, You're going to die.

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 6>And you know, for better or for worse. People can

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 6>agree with that or not. But but now that he

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 6>has designated a terrorist leader, America does have the you know,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 6>the the clearance of say in terms of like war

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, laws and so on to do that.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just playing through the political ramifications of

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>this scenario if it does come to pass. I mean,

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you've got the Democrats right now exactly where Trump wants them.

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 1>They have sided with the Narco terrorist squad. They're you know,

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>embracing MS thirteen gang members. I can't, for the life

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>of me believe that that's what they want to do.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they want to do. Now, if he

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>goes into Venezuela and either the CIA or Navy seals

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>take out Maduro, I can't imagine what the Democrats would

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>react to there. You can't necessarily, if you're a Democrat,

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 1>come out and say, hey, Maduro is our guy? You

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>know this? Yeah, what is he doing now?

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 5>There?

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>You can't blow up our guy? Right?

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, I wouldn't be Okay, this is where I

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 6>think it's going to go. You're going to see the

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 6>media make a stink about it, without a doubt they're

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 6>gonna make you know, they're going to be indignant politically.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 6>But I think it's going to come out very quickly

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 6>that this was also Biden's policy. Maybe not kill Maduro,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 6>but the Biden administration just before the twenty twenty four

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 6>elections was basically saying they're going to do the same thing.

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 6>They were talking openly about forcing a regime change in Venezuela.

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 6>Now does that mean killing him, you know, killing Maduro?

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. But but under under the Biden administration

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 6>that this was also the policy, and I think the

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 6>Trump administration could easily drag that back out and make

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 6>that case. But you know, the media these days, they

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 6>just want to they want they want to scandal, regardless

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 6>of history, and so they're going to make a big

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 6>deal about it, of course, regardless, especially right before the midterms.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, the media these days, particularly those that

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>cover Washington, d c. Are populated by people who think

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they are the next Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward, when

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>in essence they couldn't find Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>on a map. But it does serve another purpose here.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>If indeed he does this, and he goes into Venezuela,

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it would be a warning shot across the bowl of

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>any of these South American countries who are in essence

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>run by drug cartels himself to let's the nonsense is over.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's we're not playing that game anymore. So maybe

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>therein is another aspect of this.

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 6>I think he wants that. And so on that point,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 6>Trump as we speak is also threatening the president of Columbia,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 6>and he's even threatening Mexico. And I mean, I don't

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 6>know if you'd go and you know, do targeted tricks

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 6>president of Mexico, you know that'd be pretty shocking. But

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 6>if you remember when Trump was on the campaign trial,

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 6>he was saying he was going to do this. This

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 6>was part of Trump's campaign promise. And what do you say.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 6>He did a very long video. I'm talking it was

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 6>at least I think fifteen minutes, but it was very long,

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 6>and he laid out his plan to use the entire

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 6>US military, every power they had, intelligence networks, US Navy,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 6>targeted strikes, airstrikes, special forces, raids, all of this, he

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 6>said to destroy the drug cartels. He said he was

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 6>going to do everything we now see him being done.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 6>And in addition to that, he said that if any

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 6>government tries to stop him, he will expose the ties

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 6>of that government to the cartels, which you know, Maduro

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 6>is the first example of and Trump right now has

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 6>made that an open threat. And the unfortunate part for

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 6>a lot of those government of Latin America is a

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 6>lot of them are tied to the cartails in one

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 6>way or another. And if Trump says, hey, you know,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, he likes to tell the story where he's

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 6>talking to this like terrorist guy and he shows him

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 6>a picture of his house, you know, from the sky,

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 6>and he's like, mister Trump why do you show me

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 6>a picture of my house?

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>And he says, well, you know, you're gonna have to

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>put two and two.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 6>Together on that one, you know. But he's basically doing

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 6>the same thing to most of the Latin American governments effectively.

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 6>And on that point too, a lot of people say, well,

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 6>didn't Trump just pardon you know the fore of the

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 6>former presidents. I believe it was his Honduris I believe,

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 6>who was also arrested on drug charges. That ties into

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 6>what I said earlier. This is about the re establishment

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 6>to the Monroe doctrine. Part of it is about drugs,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 6>but the bigger context of it is Trump is tried.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 6>He was trying to establish loyalist leaders to America within

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 6>the Latin American region to begin again re establishing US

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 6>presents throughout the whole region and then from there dismantling

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 6>criminal networks. Is establishing kind an American answer to the

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 6>Chinese belts and Roade initiative, meaning infrastructure projects, and begin

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 6>changing the region effectively.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>When does all of this in Venezuela come to a head?

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>When do we get either Maduro out or Trump puts

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>his head on a platter. How quickly or how soon

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>does all of this play out in your opinion?

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 6>You know that that's a good question. The way Trump

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 6>is talking, you could say any day now. There's also

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 6>the chance if he believes it could harm the Republicans

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 6>during the mid terms, there maybe he'll wait till afterwards,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 6>or maybe he'll think it'll be strategically valuable to do

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 6>it before. I think, I actually think opinion polls in

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 6>terms of the media hit pieces Trump blowing up. You know,

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 6>fishing boats. Fishing boats, by the way, they're like semi

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 6>submersibles or like four engine you know, you know, rocket jets.

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.959
<v Speaker 6>You know, of course big engines painted blue, so they

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 6>blend into the ocean and they have no fishing equipment.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 6>But you know, beside the point, that's modern journalism. I

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 6>think opinion polls left and form whether he thinks it's

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 6>good to do it now or wait a bit.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the always unpredictable president Donald J. Trump, the predictable

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Philip and I will predict that he is working

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>on his next documentary even as we speak. That's for

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the future. Joshua, for your time today, Thank you.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 4>We appreciate it always.

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Drugs and oil, drugs and oil. It's all about drugs

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and oil when it comes to Latin American countries. We'll

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>see exactly how this one plays out. But he's right,

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it could play out tonight, it could play out after

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the midterms. We're going to play it out here between

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>now and three, coming up at one six. Why are

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>women spending a fortune to have their ribs removed? Apparently

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a thing. Now I had no idea about it,

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>but apparently this is a thing that looks slimmer. And

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>then down the road Jimbernaesy, former congressman, on Somali fraud

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota and how deep does it run in Ohio

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>because currently it's a problem here according to several attorneys.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to him about all of that and much

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>much more. It's the average American in for the Great

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>American on this day before New Year's twenty twenty six

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>ken Brew for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred wl W. It

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>is what are seven on this New Year's Eve twenty

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty five? Well, come on, and it's the average American

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in for the Great American. As we count the final

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>hours down to calendar year twenty twenty five, the highs

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and the lows and the rest of the show of

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five will go in the books, and we

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>begin a whole new chapter in twenty twenty six. And

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what all of us want, as a

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>whole new chapter. It's not that the last chapter was

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>bad or the chapter before that. I'm sure there were

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>good chapters and bad chapters in twenty twenty five. But

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the future that we look at because the future

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is the only thing we have that well, actually it's today.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the only thing we have to control. The future

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>is not known in the past. Is the past? Carry

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:16.479
<v Speaker 1>that thought tonight? Is you're getting slob or notocked. This

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. You know, all of us want to look young.

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>We want to look pretty. We want to do the

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>things that we did at the age of fifty that

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we could do at the age of twenty. We want

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to look in the mirror and see our best self.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Some people can do that. Some people have good genes,

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.479
<v Speaker 1>other people have good doctors. And in the world of

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>plastic surgery, this is apparently one of the hot new things.

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Women having their ribs removed, Say ken, why would women

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>want their wit ribs removed? Well for a thinner waistline.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It ain't cheap, you'll get a thinner waistline. And man,

0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>does this sound painful? And when things sound painful, he

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>turned to a doctor, and in this case the plastic

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>surgeon to the stars, doctor Bruce Herman Ford certified plastic surgeon,

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>performs a wide range of procedures and has his own

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>weekly show called Nip Talk. Nip Talk right now, he's

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>with us here on seven hundred wylwo Doctor Herman, Happy

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>New Year, and how are you on this glorious day.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 5>How are you?

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Ken's good to hear from you.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good to hear from you as well. Now,

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>did you remove any ribs today?

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I not do that and I will not do that.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 4>I was pretty shocked.

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 7>When that news article hit and I had to instantly

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 7>go look it up because I was kind of surprised

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 7>to hear that people were doing that these days. You know,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 7>that surgery has been around since the nineteen seventies, but

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 7>never really caught on for the maybe obvious reasons of hey,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 7>it's kind of you know, risky to do that and

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 7>also very painful. Actually dug into that article and it

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 7>came from a girl who was posting on TikTok.

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Of course, right, and so I tried, yeah, of course.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 7>So I tried to figure out where she had it

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 7>done because I would be surprised if she had it

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 7>done in the United States.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 4>And she and I actually had.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 7>To do some resource so I was forced to watch

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 7>like many minutes of TikTok.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 4>This is time I'll never get back in my life.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 2>But to be thorough, I wanted to make sure I

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>got all the.

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 7>Information, and she actually refused to say where she got

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.959
<v Speaker 7>it done. I'm pretty certain she had.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 4>It done out of the United States.

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 7>Because this is the crazy part which wasn't in that article.

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that you.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 7>Guys saw she actually got her ribs in a plastic bag.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 4>They gave her the ribs and.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 7>She was showing them off on TikTok, which is the

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 7>craziest thing.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 4>And they really looked legit, they look like the ribs

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 4>would look.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 7>And I just don't think anyone in America would do that,

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 7>Like that's kind of like a biohazard to give people,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.040
<v Speaker 7>you know, their body part.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 4>In a plastic bag like that.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 7>So this sounds like an out of the country experience

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 7>that this person.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Had right, it's value added. I mean they could put

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>that on the advertisement. You know, whatever we take out

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you get to take home, you can.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Add it back.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 4>She was showing the bob. It was one video. She

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 4>was holding them with her hand.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh my god, that's so insane, Like

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 7>I kind of flabbergasted, but.

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, go ahead.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say that the surgery ain't cheap.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>This woman, I think it's the same woman. She said

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>she spent about fourteen thousand dollars. They took out six ribs,

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>three on each side, and it's to shrink her waist

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>from a from a thirty two inch waist to a

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty four inch waist. And she said it was very painful,

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>very painful. And my question to you is doctor, you

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>know you all go to every doctor before he specializes

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and correct me if I'm wrong. You you go to

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the university, you go to the universal entrance to the

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>world of medicine. Am I right about that?

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, well, yeah, it's plastic surgeons. We go and

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 7>we get general training and then a lot of people specialize.

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>So I specialize in breast and body. But yeah, yeah,

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you're correct.

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Ok Okay, So you're a doctor before you're I guess

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a specialist. A doctor would look at this and think,

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, there's a reason why you would have ribs

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>on each side of your body. They're obviously protecting something.

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>So what do you yes when you take out when

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you take out three ribs on each side. Yeah, I'm

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>most wondering what are you exposing at that.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 7>Point as you're exposing like your spleen on your left side,

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 7>which is not good because the spleen is very vulnerable

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 7>to injury. In fact, in car crashes, a lot of

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 7>people get splinnic injuries and have to have them removed.

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 7>And even more importantly, on the right side, you're protecting

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 7>your liver, which that's not easy to think if it

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 7>gets injured. So, yeah, there is that side of it,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 7>you know. You know, you're removing basically your body's natural armor,

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 7>which is there for a reason. Like if this lady

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 7>goes and gets in a car crash, like she's much

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 7>more vulnerable to like potentially life threatening injuries. I mean,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 7>there's just a multitude of reasons why I wouldn't do

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 7>the surgery.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's definitely one of them.

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 7>You know, the pain, the risk, I mean, the one

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 7>thing I will say, and this is not any way

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 7>an advertisement for doing this, that I am against this,

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 7>but it does work. I looked at this girl's photos

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 7>and I was like, wow, okay, that did make a difference.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 7>But to me, it's just too risky, Like there's just

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 7>too many short term and long term risks to recommend

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 7>doing this. But I will tell you I want.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Your listeners to have full information.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 7>There is a newer technique out there, which I will

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 7>not do because I still think it's too risky. But

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 7>there are some plastic surgeons within the United States. They're

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 7>doing a procedure called rib x CAR and what they

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 7>do is they don't take out the ribs, but they

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 7>make a very very tiny incision. They drill a couple

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 7>holes in the rib which allows it to basically infracture

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 7>and you get the same result.

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 4>But without taking out the rib. Now I would not

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 4>do this.

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone doing this, but like, if

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 7>somebody had their heart set on doing something of that nature,

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 7>I would definitely do the lesser invasive procedure than removing

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 7>the ribs.

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 4>Like removing the ribs entirely, to me, is a bad idea, Like.

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't why wouldn't somebody opt for liposuction if there's

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>if there's if there if you want to do that

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>now I know, and I understand maybe you get skin

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>flab or that flappy skin or whatever it is. I

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>understand all that, but you could probably get that fixed too.

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just wondering, why wouldn't somebody opt for

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that as opposed to you know, going to you know,

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>having a rib dinner serve to somebody?

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 7>Right, Well, the reason for it, there is a reason,

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 7>There is an answer to that question is because you know,

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 7>liposuction removes the subcutaneous fat. But the concern and these

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 7>people have is the actual structural skeletal component, which liposuction

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 7>won't alter that. You know, if somebody has like a big,

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, barrel chest or wide hips naturally because of

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 7>their skeletal structure, Like LiPo is not going to really

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 7>change that entirely.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can, you.

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 7>Can alter what's above the bones, but liposuction doesn't alter

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 7>the structure. This this surgery alters the structure. And again

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying that is the reason that people should

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 7>go out and do this, because I I don't think

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 7>this is a good thing, and I would never do it,

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 7>but that that is the answer, is it's it's changing

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 7>something more structurally deep than just the overlying fat.

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>So you're taking somebody is taking ribs out to get

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>a smaller waist. That's the idea. Okay, if that's the

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>woman I'm ringing, is she is she she wanted to

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>feel prettier. Well, okay, I suppose maybe she has other

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>issues with self esteem and then that's one way to

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>fix that. I think she. I think she's got a

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>few things going on. But but the.

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 7>Fact that man, she's had like tons of surgery done,

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 7>Like her whole feed was, Like all these surgeries she's had,

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 7>it's crazy.

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember that there was one one woman that was out there,

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like when the Barbie movie came out, she wanted she

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>had all that plastic surgery done to look like Barbie

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and like like why you know, because most guys get

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>turned on on that could get they could get an

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>inflatable Bardie Barbie doll and be happy. But but my point,

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>my point in all this is no surgery is is

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>all surgeries come with some sort of discomfort, if not pain.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're taking bodily structure out. If you're taking ribs out,

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>good lord, the pain level on that has to be

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>through the roof.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And I will add, which is one thing that's

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 7>important to know. This girl did come back like three

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 7>months after a surgery and said, I made a mistake.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 4>I would not do this surgery.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Over my ribs back. Can you put them back in?

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 5>Here?

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Are my ribs? Can you put them back in? No?

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 7>Sorry one way, but yeah, she came back and said,

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 7>I do not recommend the surgery for anyone. So I

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 7>mean that's a I guess a good thing for people

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 7>to hear. Is this This person that this whole article

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 7>spawned up from came back and said I made a mistake.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I would not do this again.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you guys man, you guys in the in

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the plastic surgery biz. From what I can tell, you

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>work with what God gave you. In other words, if

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I came into you and I said, you know, I'd

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>really like to look like George Clooney in my aging years,

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you'd be said, look, I can't. I'm not I'm not

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a magician. I'm a doctor. You kind of work with

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>what you got when you start messing around with structure.

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's like taking that's like taking afford focus

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>into a garage and saying, Okay, I'm going to remove this,

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and you got a ferrari Now, I mean you could

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>only work with what you got. I think once you

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>start messing around with that stuff, I think you're full

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>of your you're you're, you're, you're just with the primal

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>forces of nature you're messing with those things. I don't

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>think the doctor really of any note in this country

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>would ever do something like that, do you.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 7>I agree with you one hundred percent. That's why I

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 7>was really trying to dig to see where this happened. Yeah,

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean it all comes down to, you know, risk

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 7>and reward, right, I mean I I mean there's certain

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 7>surgeries that are sort of calmon that I won't do

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 7>because of the risks, like the Brazilian butt lift.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 4>And I think we talked about this one of the

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 4>other times we chatted, like.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I won't do Brazilian butt lists.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Because they're risky.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.240
<v Speaker 7>And it's like to me, it's like, you know, doing

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 7>something esthetic is fine if the risks are minable, but

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 7>when those risks start to climb where it includes things

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 7>like death, I'm out, like I'm not in for my

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 7>patients dying like I'm out. And so you know, unfortunately,

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if every surgeon you know, adheres to

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 7>that kind of you know, strict safety regiment that I do.

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 7>And so that's why you you know, you hear these

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 7>stories in the news, the people who go and you know,

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 7>try to change something their body and end up, you know,

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 7>maimed or dead, and yeah, I just didn't. I'm not

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 7>like that, man. I'll do like the easy stuff and

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 7>the stuff that is you know, accepted as being safe.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 4>But man, when he gets into stuff like taking.

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 7>Out ribs or wrists of bam with Brazilian butt lit,

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm out, man, I'm just not going to do it.

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Bruce Herman, our guest board certified plastic surgeon. We're

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about how some women are now spending a fortune

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>to have ribs removed to give them a a slimmer waistline.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds. There are all kinds of Charlatans out there,

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>as you know, in in in your business that'll you know,

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you go. The Brazilian butt lift is a great thing.

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe you and I did a segment on

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>how people were going to Mexico to get a Brazilian

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>butt lift and not coming back. They were they were

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>apprehended by the cartels down there or whatever. I just did. Yeah,

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I did a segment last week with a guy who

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.919
<v Speaker 1>is allegedly the number one hair transplant surgeon in America.

0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>He lives in Fort Lauderdale, and we were talking about

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>how people are getting on planes. Bald guys are getting

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>on planes and flying to Turkey to get these plug

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 1>treatments done. Where you know this guy is a legit

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 1>doctor doing it. The guy the people do it in Turkey.

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>They may have like an operating room that's right next

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to a hair salon, that's like next to a rail pollard,

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that's next to a quick trip where you can get

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a salami sandwich. It's just I mean, you got to

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting and if you have, if you

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>see something that's advertised out there, yeah, come down here.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a fraction of the cost. Well, okay, you may

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>come back a fraction of the person that you went

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>down there as. So I mean, you've got to be

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>careful with these things, don't you.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 7>Oh one hundred percent, Like I'm really against medical tourism

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 7>where people go out of the country because you know,

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 7>I mean.

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 4>You kind of hit the nail on the head. You know,

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 4>you don't know who's doing it.

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it can be hard in the United States

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 7>to know who's legit and who's not when you go

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 7>out of the country. I mean, you just have no idea.

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 7>You don't know if the training they had is proper.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 7>You don't know what the sort of occasions they have

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 7>are legitimate. I mean, anyone can make a great web page, right,

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 7>I mean, a person off the street can make a

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.240
<v Speaker 7>web page that look like the best, you know, plastic

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 7>surgeon in the world. And it's easy to deceive people.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 7>And so you know, when you go outside of the country,

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.320
<v Speaker 7>you just don't know what you're getting. Plus, you know,

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 7>one of the biggest problems of going out of the

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 7>country is, you know, if you have complications. Number One,

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 7>you typically have them after you come back. I mean

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 7>you're not even the same country as your surgeon. And

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 7>then two, there's no recourse. You know, recent in the

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 7>United States, if you go and you have surgery somebody

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 7>and you get botched, you have the ability to get

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 7>legal renumeration, right, you can sue them. You can't sue

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 7>someone in Turkey, like that's impossible. And so yeah, I've

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 7>been talking about medical tourism and like the dangers of it,

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 7>and now you have even you know, the UK has

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 7>issued a bunch of warnings because it's mostly the UK

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 7>and europe people going to Turkey. We here in the

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 7>United States people tend to go to South America or wherever.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 7>But now you got the U k issuing warnings because

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 7>what's happening is all these people are having complications and

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 7>then they get into the NHS or the National Health

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 7>Services and it's costing the government a bunch of money

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 7>to like to fix these people. And so like the

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 7>government now is like stepping in. So yeah, it's it's

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 7>crazy out there. I mean, at the end of the day,

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, saving money is good, but it's not you know,

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 7>worth your life to save you know, a thousand bucks

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 7>or whatever.

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So, doctor Bruce Herman, if a woman walked into your

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>office today and said, you know what, I want to

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>have some ribs removed, you would tell her what.

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>I would tell her. Please Number one, I'm not going

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 4>to do it, and two please don't do it. You know,

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 4>I guess if.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 7>Like she was insistent on doing something. I might refer

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 7>her to the one of the handful of actual legit

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 7>plastic surgeons that are doing the minimally invasive not removal,

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 7>but like you know, contouring or fracturing of the ribs.

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 4>But I wouldn't even do that. I mean, I just

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's too risky.

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 7>I mean personally, so, I mean I guess maybe like

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 7>those those handfuls of certain the United States, I think

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 7>they're having pretty good results with it, but I don't know.

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 7>For this guy, it's too risky. I'm not looking to

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 7>like hurting my patients. I want everybody to like have

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 7>a good experience and come out okay.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>On the other end, yeah, you're a guy that sticks

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>to the breast, the butt, and the nose, right, I mean,

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you just you got you know, your menu is very short.

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:26.879
<v Speaker 4>Bread and butter.

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 5>Man, the easy stuff, the stuff that's been shown.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 4>To be safe. You know, I'm not here to take risks.

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I just you know, again, I just want

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 7>people to have a good experience and.

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Not hav any bad outcomes. So I'm sticking to the

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 4>stuff that works.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And nip talk. Where can we find nip talk? Your

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 1>weekly show. Where is that?

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 7>So it's a video podcast that airs mostly on YouTube.

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 7>You can find us at NIP talk Show. It does

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 7>air on Facebook as well, and then the audio goes

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 7>out to the various audio podcast streaming services.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 4>So up some of your listeners to come by.

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you talking about this week?

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, actually I'm off this week because the studio is

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 7>closed because of the new year.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:11.359
<v Speaker 1>So well, last week, what did you do last week?

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it's a bad week.

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 7>Is we had Christmas bell on a bad day, so

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 7>our studio was closed book So I just I gave

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 7>my people a couple of weeks off. Last thing we

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 7>were talking about we were talking about Kate Winslet. She

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 7>was slamming anyone who wanted to get plastic surgery.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 4>And I love Kate Winslet.

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.280
<v Speaker 7>I saw Titanic three times in the in the theaters

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 7>when I was a young person.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 4>But I had a little beef.

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 7>With her because she was like, she's kind of dogging

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 7>on people that wanted to get botox and.

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Like simple stuff, and so.

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 4>We had to break that down.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, we talked about a lot of interesting topics,

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 7>including things like I actually we'll do a segment on

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 7>this rib rib reception thing, and that'll be what I'm

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 7>going to talk about for sure on the next episode.

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, good gad, we gave you the idea, and Kate

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>winslet her boat always sink, so I wouldn't worry about

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you about her.

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right.

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Doc, thanks for your time. Doctor Bruce Herman always

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>great having you on. You can find him at Breast

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and Plasticsurgery dot com Breast and Plastic Surgery dot com.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, Happy New Year, Docs, stay.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, happen to you. Thank a lot. Take care.

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't pay me enough money to have my ribs removed.

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, people should just love people for the way

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they are. Wouldn't that be a nice thing to happen

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six? Here I am, this is look

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>take care of myself the best way I can all.

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.879
<v Speaker 1>What a world that would be? One twenty five it's

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the average American in for the Great American News Radio

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W. It's good handwork on this bass.

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>You're not playing a slap base here. He's just playing

0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>a bass. I'm guessing it's at you. I mean, Carol

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Kaye was a great base player, Welcome back seven hundred WLW.

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 1>The average American in for the great American. On this

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve. We have Xavier basketball later on this afternoon.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Connect ticket is at Xavier that will be at the

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Sintas Center, and that particular game we'll see a major

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>task for the Musketeers as the number four Huskies are

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 1>twelve and one. Savior comes into this game nine and four,

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and we will have that game for you right here

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW Byron Larkin and Joe Sunderman with

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the call. There are other bowl games going on today,

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and there are things I guess that if you're a

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>fan of college football and you don't mind seeing the

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>teams that might not necessarily be all that good, well

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>what the hell why not? And then, of course you've

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>got the college football Playoff that begins our I guess

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>in the case of the playoff itself continues. But tonight

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>at the Cotton Bowl, it's Miami against the Ohio State

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>buck Guys. Last we heard from the buck Eyes, they

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>had just been slapped upside the head by Indiana in

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten championship game. They've had a lot of

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>time off to think about this game. Tonight against Miami.

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.919
<v Speaker 1>And if you were listening yesterday or heard a young

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>man by the name of Dan Hope from eleven Warriors

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>dot com, he was one of my guests yesterday and

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was asking him about that time off. That's a long

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 1>time to think about a loss. It's a good time,

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I suppose if you're trying to heal and get players

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 1>who have had nagging injuries throughout the season healthy. But

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it is a long time and I'm wondering, as I

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>wondered yesterday with Hope, exactly how the buck Eyes deal

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>with this.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 4>The good thing is for Ohio State, they've done this before.

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 8>We saw it last year where they lose that game

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 8>to Michigan, they have to sew on it for a

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.959
<v Speaker 8>month and then they go and have a fantastic four

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 8>game run in the College football playoffs. So there's a

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 8>lot of play on this year's team who were part

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 8>of last year's team, who have been there.

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 4>They know what it takes to bounce.

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 8>Back from a loss, and they know what it takes

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 8>to play their best football in the College Football playoffs.

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 8>So I think that that's something that can really kind

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 8>of guide them into this game and help them in

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 8>terms of knowing what it takes to play their best

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 8>football of.

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 4>The season in the biggest games of the year now.

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 8>At the same time, just because they did it last

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 8>year doesn't if they're going to do it again and

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 8>players are talking about that, you know, they have to

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 8>work just as hard going into this game as they

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 8>did going into those CFT games a year ago if

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 8>they want to have the same results.

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.399
<v Speaker 4>But I think the fact that you know.

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 8>Ryan Day and so many of these players have didn't

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 8>prove out already last year, they have that experience of

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 8>playing in a college ball playoff in winning a national championship.

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 8>I think that's really valuable. It's something they can drop

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 8>from going into this game.

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Day is going to take over the play calling on offense,

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 1>largely because Brian Hartline has got one foot out the

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>door to South Florida to become the next head coach,

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and although he's still coaching obviously on the staff, he's

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 1>going to concentrate on wide receivers. They took over the

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 1>play calling. Why is it because Heartline is literally moving

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on And was it a strategic thing on Dave's part?

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Did he not like the way the players are being

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>college just fill in the blanks there a little bit.

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he pretty much covered it.

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 8>I think it's the fact that Brian Hartline is juggling

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 8>two jobs right now, and I think that Ryan Day

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 8>came to realize over the last couple of weeks that

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 8>having an offensive coordinator, having someone leading the offensive game

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 8>plan who is not a one hundred percent invested in

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 8>Ohio State right now, was not the best move for

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.240
<v Speaker 8>Ohio State. And I don't say that to criticize Brian Hartline.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 8>It's just the reality of the situation that you know,

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 8>he's going to be a head coach somewhere else. He

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 8>has certain things he has to do for that job. Unfortunately,

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 8>the way of a college football calendar is right now.

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I know I've read something and I think

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 8>it's like eight of the teams in a college ball

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 8>playoffs or something like that have a coordinator moving on.

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:07.800
<v Speaker 8>So it's just the reality of a situation these days

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 8>that you know, with the timing of signing day and

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 8>a transfer portal and all that, you know, coaching hires

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 8>get made before the college football playoff and so you

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 8>have a lot of coaches who are finishing up a

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 8>job with one team while preparing to start a job

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 8>with a new team. And that's certainly the case of

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 8>Brian Hartline. But I think Ryan Day just kind of

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 8>came to realize, well, you know, because of what happened

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 8>in the Big Ten championship game, where you know, the

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 8>offense clearly had its worst performance of the year, coming

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 8>just three days after Brian Hartline was hired at USF.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that was a coincidence.

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 8>And then I think, you know, realizing is they started

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 8>game planning for the cotton ball over the last couple

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 8>of weeks that you know, having someone who's splitting time

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 8>between two places lead the offensive game plan is probably

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 8>not the best way to go about it. And so

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, and they ultimately decided that the best move

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 8>was for him to do it himself.

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Stay at Hope. Who was with me yesterday on seven

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred WW from eleven Warriors dot com. We got bowl

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>games tonight. Of course that's the big one today. It's

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the Reliaquest Bowl Iowa against Vanderbilt. Oh my be still

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>my beating heart on this one. This game is now

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 1>at the half, Iowa fourteen Vanderbilt three. Still to come.

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:26.320
<v Speaker 1>The Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl. Yeah, out there and

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll passo Texas, Arizona State against Duke, and then the

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:35.760
<v Speaker 1>cheese at Citrus Bowl, three o'clock kick, Michigan against Texas,

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the unbattled Michigan football team against Texas, and then tonight,

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of course it's Miami and Ohio State. What's up with

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Bengals are counting down to the end of

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the season, but do they have full focus on the

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>task at hand? With the Browns? Talk a little bit

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>about that next no Stooge report today, segs Off. I'm

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>just trying to fill in the blanks. Seven hundred w

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>WELW one fifty News Radio, seven hundred WLW, The average

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>American in for the Great American. Do you think there's

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 1>this Somali fraud problem up in Minnesota? How about the

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Buckeye State. We may be on the verge of one

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>as well. We're going to get into that at two

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>oh six. Then down the road. How chocolate and coffee

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>can help your aging process? I don't mean accelerated, I

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>mean pushing off the aging process. New Year's Eve twenty

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, great to have you with us. I want

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to wish a happy birthday to a loyal listener here

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred W WELW young man up in Lima

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Silas. Silas is a dedicated listener

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to this radio station. We hear from Silas a lot.

0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>He is thirteen years old today and we wish him

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>hot happy birthday here from seven hundred w wel that

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years old, Silas, Your entire life is a blank

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>canvas at this point. Paint it wisely. The Bengals are

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to take on the Browns, and of course

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>at pay Corpse Stadium one o'clock kick season finale for

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Our coverage begins at nine a m. From

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Grail this particular Sunday morning. And does Zach

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Taylor just finished his news conference up here a few

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes ago, and he says he is absolutely no questions, none,

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<v Speaker 1>no questions about his team's energy.

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<v Speaker 9>All you spend great energy from our guys. Helpful that

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<v Speaker 9>we've won the last two. I think to keep the

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 9>energy up at this point of year. But everybody's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to deal with Shudor Sanders, who is not great

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>but is playing better as the Browns have just played

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Merry Grounds with quarterbacks since they came back into the league.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sanders is their guy now, is at least through

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this year, and then we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And Taylor claims that he knew all about him when

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he played at college. Well, who didn't. He played for

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>his dad and everybody was kind of eyeing his dad, Dion,

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>But Taylor at least knew who the guy was coming

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:16.440
<v Speaker 1>out of college.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm never going to call myself a Colorado fan,

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 9>and I was watching their games, you know, as a

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.320
<v Speaker 9>Nebraska guy, So you know, I thought that he did

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 9>a great job, you know, and collaboration with a lot

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 9>of other people that really did a great job at Colorado.

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<v Speaker 9>So then for him to come in the league and

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 9>as a rookie have success things really impressive. And so

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 9>again we've got a tough task in front of us,

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<v Speaker 9>and he's done a real good job, and he's got confidence,

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 9>he's he's obviously got a lot of reps in his

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<v Speaker 9>belt now and he's been a lot of plays for

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 9>these guys.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had on Brian Diardo from CBS Sports last week

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<v Speaker 1>on my show and we were talking about the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and in twenty twenty five and how much of a

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>bummer it was. And I asked him, is it too

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<v Speaker 1>is it too easy to say that this all fell

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<v Speaker 1>apart when Joe Burrow went down, because there were great

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<v Speaker 1>numbers put up by Joe Flacco in several games in

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<v Speaker 1>his absence. Here's the Ardo's thoughts on that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I think going in and I think what

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<v Speaker 10>you're alluding to is this was a fly team with

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<v Speaker 10>or without Burrow, and I wholeheartedly agree. I think for me,

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<v Speaker 10>the season was went downhill when Brown and Cake Brin

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<v Speaker 10>came in and he didn't provide them the adequate play

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<v Speaker 10>at backup quarterback that they needed, and you know one

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<v Speaker 10>and three and those starts that it was so bad

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<v Speaker 10>that they had to figure out a way to get

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<v Speaker 10>another quarterback and um announced everybody went and got Joe

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<v Speaker 10>flat though, and kind of a shocking, you know, mid

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<v Speaker 10>season trade, and to me, him not being ready to

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<v Speaker 10>come in and go. I think it was a surprise

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<v Speaker 10>to everybody. And he was four and three, as you

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<v Speaker 10>know and your listeners know, as a starter a few

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<v Speaker 10>years ago. When Burrow got hurt and there was no

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<v Speaker 10>reason to believe that he wouldn't be as effective this time.

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<v Speaker 10>And he was so bad that it compelled Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 10>to bench him and try to save the season with

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<v Speaker 10>getting a forty year old quarterback. So, you know, to me,

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<v Speaker 10>him not being able to come in right away and

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<v Speaker 10>get a couple of wins, I mean we're talking.

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<v Speaker 4>If they have two more wins right now, they're still

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<v Speaker 4>in it with the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 10>Being where they are and the Ravens being where they are.

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<v Speaker 10>To me, that way there was to me where the

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<v Speaker 10>season ended.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, in a lot of ways it did. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you go back and you look, which I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So Flacco's first game here was the game against Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay on October the twelfth, twenty nine to forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty eight total yards in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was obviously, you know, not a game that

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<v Speaker 1>I would consider the Bengals to be competitive in, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least showed that Flaco could come in here and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give this team a pulse. And then Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and seventy total yards against the Steelers, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy yards against the Steelers right week seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Ingles thirty three Steelers thirty one McPherson's fueld goal with

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<v Speaker 1>seven seconds to go. The two games that just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>submarine this team were, of course, the home losses to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets and to the Bears. You give up two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty four rushing yards to the Jets. The

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<v Speaker 1>Jets haven't shown that kind of pulse at any game

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<v Speaker 1>before that, and after five hundred and two total yards

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago the next week, thirty seven rushes, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three on the ground, five hundred and seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>total yards on the ground. You allow Caleb Williams to

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<v Speaker 1>throw for four touchdown passes in both of those games,

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<v Speaker 1>a grand total of two sacks from that Bengals defense. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the season really didn't go under when Burrow got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but you had those Jets and a Chicago win. To

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<v Speaker 1>what was at stake when Burrow came back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what the story is. The defense is what

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<v Speaker 1>submarine this team this year, and as well as it

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly has played the last three weeks, it needs major work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the eyeball test. I've been watching this stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>over forty years here for over forty years, almost fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the eyeball tenp. They're not good enough. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>tackle well enough, and they certainly don't cover well enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and they certainly don't rush the quarterback well enough. That's

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<v Speaker 1>job one in the off season. It is coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on one to fifty seven news Radio seven hundred WLW

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back at happen in a year I grew the

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<v Speaker 1>average American in for the great American here on seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW. Thank you for tuning us in today too.

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<v Speaker 1>As you get ready to do whatever you do tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I going out and getting crazy those days

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<v Speaker 1>I have left in my wake, and I since most

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<v Speaker 1>of you have done that too. We're just I think

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<v Speaker 1>pot people just want to stick close to home anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You maybe go have dinner, maybe come home. You can

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<v Speaker 1>stay up long enough, watch the ball drop and then

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<v Speaker 1>hit the sack for sleep or whatever. Anyway, Happy New

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<v Speaker 1>Year to you and your family. The fraud scheme that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Minnesota, I think you should know about

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<v Speaker 1>that by now. It is centering around a Somalian population

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<v Speaker 1>that is the largest of any state in America. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty two of the ninety two defendants charged are Somalian Americans. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this center's around daycare centers or in one case, a

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<v Speaker 1>leering center. How in the hell do you put up

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<v Speaker 1>a sign over a daycare center that says leering center. Event,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a scam to get federal money siphoned to Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>for alleged daycare centers. And right now that alleged money

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhere around eighteen billion with a B dollars, the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged money that's been scammed by the Somalian run daycare centers.

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<v Speaker 1>In Ohio. We have the second largest Somalian population of

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<v Speaker 1>any state in America. Most of the Somalis that are

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<v Speaker 1>here in this country, legal and otherwise have settled in

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<v Speaker 1>central Ohio. And someone, I guess it was the Columbus Dispatch.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not really doing a very good job on this story.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, ask the governor about you know, well

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<v Speaker 1>what about you know these daycare centers here in Ohio?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is everything okay? And you know the governor said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, no, no, this is this has been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for a long time. We know that that

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<v Speaker 1>this is going on. We're on it, and we crack

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<v Speaker 1>down on it every time it pops it pops up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess maybe the Dispatch was satisfied with that answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not because it almost sounds dismissive on the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the current governor of Ohio. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to find out exactly what's going on in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio from a guy that I have on my

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<v Speaker 1>show a lot who totally listen, totally up fun about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim er Dacey ran against Mike DeWine and lost, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to primary Diwine in the Republican primary, and REDEESI lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has any ill ill will towards

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<v Speaker 1>the governor, but he does have a differing opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Minnesota and how it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>you and to me here in Ohio. So let's bring

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<v Speaker 1>him on in. Jim er Dacy, how are you on

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<v Speaker 1>this glorious New Year's Eve?

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<v Speaker 5>I am doing great, Ken, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well? And uh, look, fraud is fraud. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>extract Somalia out of this just for a moment. Fraud

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<v Speaker 1>is fraud. And if somebody is stealing tax dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>people who pay into the tax system, that should be

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute red flag for every single person in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>but in particular the people that serve this country in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>So why I have so many of your former Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues not looked at this and said, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fraud. They don't seem to be very interested

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<v Speaker 1>in any of this, do they.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I got to tell you for your exactly right,

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<v Speaker 5>fraud is fraud, and whether it's Democrats or Republicans, Americans

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<v Speaker 5>should be looking at this across the board, across the states.

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<v Speaker 5>I would never tell you that there's enough fraud to

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<v Speaker 5>reduce the deficit, but I would tell you there's enough

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<v Speaker 5>fraud out there that if it was extracted, we could

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<v Speaker 5>be doing a lot better with our debts and deficits,

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<v Speaker 5>especially when it comes to medicate fraud, because people have

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<v Speaker 5>to realize that, for instance, in Ohio, whatever the state

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<v Speaker 5>of Ohio spends, the federal government reimburses over ninety percent

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<v Speaker 5>to the state. So there's a gimmick going around the

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<v Speaker 5>entire country, which I did try and fight when I

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<v Speaker 5>was in Washington, which there's no reason to cut medicaid spending,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance in the state of Ohio when ninety percent

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<v Speaker 5>of it and plus when some of the states are

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<v Speaker 5>very similar get totally reimbursed by the federal government, which

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<v Speaker 5>becomes a real problem when the federal governments just fishing

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<v Speaker 5>out dollars and states are taking those dollars and not

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<v Speaker 5>really being careful with them because they know that the

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<v Speaker 5>majority of those dollars are reimbursed by the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>The majority of Somalians that have landed in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>legal or otherwise are in the state of Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Minneapolis metropolitan area. The second largest group are

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio. Some say thirty thousand, others say it might

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<v Speaker 1>be twice that, but nevertheless, here they are. And you

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned you tried to fight this in Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, here's your good buddy, Mike de Wine.

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<v Speaker 1>His office said that the attempts to the fraud publicly

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<v Speaker 1>funded daycare are not new and that the state has

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<v Speaker 1>had safeguards up for a very long time. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, I ran against Mike DeWine because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>believe a lot of things he says, and I'm willing

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<v Speaker 5>to say that. But let's face it, over, I just

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<v Speaker 5>saw a report today over forty daycare centers in Columbus

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio all opened under the same defunct shell organizations from

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<v Speaker 5>all the Educational Resource Center began operating the exact same

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<v Speaker 5>day with combined earnings of fourteen million dollars in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four a loan. So we have the same situation

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<v Speaker 5>occurring here in Ohio, and we do have medicaid fraud

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<v Speaker 5>throughout Ohio as well. That has been found by our

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<v Speaker 5>honor has brought it to the attention of many people,

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<v Speaker 5>and some people have been prosecuted, some haven't been. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>face it, It's one of the reasons why I say

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<v Speaker 5>be careful when you point the finger at Minnesota, because

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<v Speaker 5>one of those fingers might be pointing right back at

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean again, it almost seemed like a brush

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<v Speaker 1>off what his office told. I guess it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus Dispatch. And then the Dispatch shose the weakest form

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<v Speaker 1>of journalism to look into this story. They went running

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<v Speaker 1>to one of those alleged daycare centers in Columbus and said, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's good here. Everything's good here, so there must not

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<v Speaker 1>be anything going on, rather than actually trying to dig

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<v Speaker 1>into the story and see, well, okay, well what about

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<v Speaker 1>this place or that place, or the overall medicaid fraud

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<v Speaker 1>that may be going on here in the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio kind of you know, if somebody that spent their life,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of their life in television journalism, it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hacks me off. The lack of journalistic curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>here with this story.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, kay, and here's what's really interesting. An individual up

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<v Speaker 5>in Wadsworth, Ohio that actually has three or four daycare centers,

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<v Speaker 5>got in the car and drove down because of his

1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:14.719
<v Speaker 5>frustration of how difficult it was to operate his daycare centers.

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<v Speaker 5>And he told me today that he visited five of

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<v Speaker 5>these Somali daycare centers. Four of them were absolutely nobody there,

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<v Speaker 5>totally dark, and the fifth one that he visited, he

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<v Speaker 5>was actually afraid for his life because a guy came

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<v Speaker 5>out and said what are you doing here? And he said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know a what he goes, You're trespassing and he said, nope,

1:11:38.479 --> 1:11:43.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm not trespassing because I'm leaving. But he felt very

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<v Speaker 5>uncomfortable that after visiting just five locations in Ohio in

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<v Speaker 5>these Somali daycares, but four of them were dark, and

1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:57.280
<v Speaker 5>one of them, although it wasn't dark was not providing

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<v Speaker 5>daycare was providing he said it. Look there was something

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<v Speaker 5>else going on in the building. But that just shows

1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:07.200
<v Speaker 5>you that you're exactly right. We need to have a

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<v Speaker 5>thorough investigation of this, and I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>find the same thing. It's just a lack of oversight

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<v Speaker 5>from our government officials, which leads to deficit spending, medicaid

1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:24.519
<v Speaker 5>waste and fraud and things that could be corrected if

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<v Speaker 5>we just were a little bit more diligent on oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm reading right here. According to some estimates, Somali

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<v Speaker 1>scammers have taken more money from taxpayers in the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years than the entire gross domestic product of Somalia

1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the country. I mean, it's staggering. It's roughly eighteen billion

1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that's in play up in Minnesota, and half of that

1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:50.799
<v Speaker 1>is a number that adds up to the total federal

1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:55.400
<v Speaker 1>funds provided by that FEDS two Minnesota since twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>for all of federal run services in Minnesota. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>would never suggest this to any other politician than perhaps you,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems to me if you have in Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>a very large Somali population there and it's you're running

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<v Speaker 1>for political offense, either for the mayor of Minnesota or

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<v Speaker 1>for the seat that elon Omar has. If you start

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<v Speaker 1>sticking your nose into something like this, it's going to

1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:25.680
<v Speaker 1>cost you votes. And if that costs your votes, that

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<v Speaker 1>cost you the election. How much of this do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is just politically driven? That Tim Walls and the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor Fry I believe his name is of Minneapolis, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly elon Omar, they don't want to stick their nose

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<v Speaker 1>into something like this because if they do, that costs

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<v Speaker 1>them votes and they're out of office. That couldn't possibly happen,

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<v Speaker 1>could it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? You know, and I know that votes are the

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<v Speaker 5>main thing. It's one of the reasons why nobody wants

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<v Speaker 5>to look at Medicare. Nobody wants to look at Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 5>nobody wants to look at social security fraud. And you

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<v Speaker 5>start looking at all these programs and benefits and you

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<v Speaker 5>start digging into the fraud, you're going to find things.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. I was on the Medicare Medicare Subscommittee. I

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<v Speaker 5>was on the Social Security subcommittee. There was ongoing fraud

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<v Speaker 5>investigations all around the country. And these are things that

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<v Speaker 5>do cost people votes. There's no doubt about it. Just

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, if it's your district and there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of that population and you're worried about getting reelected,

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely you're going to ignore it as long as you can. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first thing they're going to say is you're

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<v Speaker 1>a racist. You know you must be a racist if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking to the No, I'm looking for my money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you write me a check and give me

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<v Speaker 1>my money back. You can go about your business any

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<v Speaker 1>way you want. But I you know, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>this gets gets rolling and despite the best efforts of ABC, NBCCBS,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will because I think you're going to finally

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<v Speaker 1>get some action in Washington, d C. That may be

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<v Speaker 1>a rallying point for the GOP in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you turn rocks over on all of

1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:05.960
<v Speaker 1>these places, you're going to be surprised of what you

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<v Speaker 1>find in terms of fraud. Now you might have served

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<v Speaker 1>with this guy. I don't know, Jim. I didn't look

1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>at the lap over on your tenure there. But the

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<v Speaker 1>House majority with Tom Emmer from Minnesota, now's yelling and

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<v Speaker 1>screaming and calling for the denaturalization and deportation of Somali's

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota who defrauded taxpayers. Well, okay, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a step maybe after you actually get to who shepherd

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<v Speaker 1>the fraud and who knew about it and didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it. It's one thing to say that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do, but I think you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that first step, don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, absolutely, And I did serve with Tom Emmer. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a good friend of mine. And you know, look those

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:54.080
<v Speaker 5>are such face. That's a political claim he's making. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a great political claim and it's a great rally cry.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're exactly right. We've got to start looking at

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<v Speaker 5>these states. It's the same. And I use Ohio only

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<v Speaker 5>because I know Ohio. If Ohio was not getting anything

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<v Speaker 5>reimbursed from the federal government, zero reimbursement, they'd be very

1:16:13.240 --> 1:16:16.960
<v Speaker 5>careful on how much they're spending in the medicaid program.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the things every state we should be

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<v Speaker 5>looking at is how do we how do we make

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<v Speaker 5>the states more accountable when it comes to Medicaid. The

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<v Speaker 5>best way, of course, is to eliminate their federal match.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, you want to fix a state like Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 5>just say okay, we're going to eliminate your federal match.

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<v Speaker 5>But you got to remember, you just can't pick on Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what I keep trying to tell people. You

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<v Speaker 5>can look at Minnesota and as a Republican administration, the

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<v Speaker 5>Republican president, we could say we're going to go after

1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:53.639
<v Speaker 5>Minnesota until it becomes a problem in Ohio, whether it's

1:16:53.640 --> 1:16:57.640
<v Speaker 5>a Republican administration. So if you're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to do it across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to get you into a you know,

1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:06.120
<v Speaker 1>another public urinating contest with the wine. But he doesn't

1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:09.400
<v Speaker 1>seem interested in it. I mean just by his statement

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<v Speaker 1>and the statement that came out of his office up there,

1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:14.519
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, yeah, this isn't now, We're on it.

1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>We've got our antenna. It doesn't seem like he has

1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:20.080
<v Speaker 1>an appetite to take this thing on. Does it seem

1:17:20.080 --> 1:17:20.879
<v Speaker 1>that way to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, it's a controversial issue. He should be on

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<v Speaker 5>top of it. No, he's not going to worry about it.

1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:29.960
<v Speaker 5>And it's one of the reasons Iran against him. And

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<v Speaker 5>again it's but I've said this time and time again,

1:17:34.120 --> 1:17:37.200
<v Speaker 5>our state has not gotten any better in the six

1:17:37.280 --> 1:17:39.840
<v Speaker 5>years he's been governor. In fact, we've fallen behind in

1:17:39.880 --> 1:17:43.320
<v Speaker 5>a lot of places. And this is another issue. In fact,

1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:48.599
<v Speaker 5>he's increased medicaid funding across the state. He has added

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<v Speaker 5>to the medicaid debacle that we have in our state,

1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:55.960
<v Speaker 5>which means, you know, if you assume that medicaid has five,

1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.720
<v Speaker 5>ten percent, whatever the number is fraud. Governor Gwin has

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<v Speaker 5>increase the amount that Ohio spends in Medicaid, which means

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<v Speaker 5>he's probably in avertly increase the amount of fraud as well,

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<v Speaker 5>just because whenever there's money rolling into the state, there's

1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:12.759
<v Speaker 5>going to be a percentage that's fraudulent.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you see this thing going, Jim, Not just

1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>here in Ohio, but you know across the country. It's

1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota right now, it's the holiday season. It probably isn't

1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.799
<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of attention from the general public just yet,

1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:30.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know January and the cold months of winter's

1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:33.280
<v Speaker 1>still await when people are in front of television sets

1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:36.479
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. Where do you think this goes and how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly do you think it goes? Knowing it's an election

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<v Speaker 1>year coming up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because it's Tim Walton, because it's a Democrat state,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're going to see President Trump and many

1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:53.200
<v Speaker 5>in the administration going after Minnesota. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>as I said all along, I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>backside and hit Ohio as well. Because you said this

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<v Speaker 5>and I agree. The second greatest population of Somolians is

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<v Speaker 5>in Ohio. So we're going to get that backlash in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think in the end, it's just going to

1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:14.240
<v Speaker 5>make people more unhappy with our political system and our

1:19:14.360 --> 1:19:18.679
<v Speaker 5>politicians and our elected officials. And we've got a November

1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:21.559
<v Speaker 5>election coming up. If you start to play the cards,

1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:23.760
<v Speaker 5>eventually people are going to say, I just want to

1:19:23.880 --> 1:19:27.360
<v Speaker 5>get everybody out of there that's in office. We saw

1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:30.519
<v Speaker 5>that before. The sad thing is we have a majority

1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:33.679
<v Speaker 5>of Republicans right now, but they will pay the price

1:19:34.360 --> 1:19:38.200
<v Speaker 5>if that's the attitude of voters come November twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, Jim, And what I say happy New Year,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean happy and healthy and safe and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I will visit in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks same to you and all your listeners. Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a conservative lawyer and a Republican strategist named

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<v Speaker 1>mahet Cook, and Maheck Cook told Fox News earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>month that Minnesota just the tip of the spear, and

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<v Speaker 1>many Somalians in Columbus are great people, law abiding citizens

1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:11.640
<v Speaker 1>who came here legally, he went on to say. She

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<v Speaker 1>went on to say, the problem today is not the community,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually the criminals within the community. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Somalians or pick another country, people from Ireland, Italy, Canada, Mexico, China, Ubekistan.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. Fraud is fraud, and they're taking our money.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that doesn't get you lit underneath the butt,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what will tax money taken from US Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Better get quick on this seven hundred WLWT.

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<v Speaker 4>Two thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred at WLW welcome on it final

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<v Speaker 1>half hour festivities. It will be Jason Williams and Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Carroll after the news at the top of the hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it straight straight till Xavier basketball Xavier and connect

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<v Speaker 1>Ticket four thirty year Time five o'clock tip on seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLWT. To build off the Jim Ornacy interview. It's

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<v Speaker 1>awfully interesting to me that the exposure of fraud by

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<v Speaker 1>Somalians in Minnesota has happened by citizen journalists and independent journalists,

1:21:36.920 --> 1:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and that those working for major media outlets have either

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<v Speaker 1>completely ignored the story for whatever reasons, maybe political ideology

1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>or maybe because they were too stupid to find out

1:21:48.320 --> 1:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that there was something going on. Who knows. Journalistic curiosity

1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>in this country is dead. But it was these citizens

1:21:56.320 --> 1:22:00.320
<v Speaker 1>journalists and these independent journalists that have uncovered these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just in Minnesota's it's apparently across major

1:22:04.960 --> 1:22:10.479
<v Speaker 1>major cities in Maine, Pennsylvania, Washington State and right here

1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>as we just talked about with Reneesi in Ohio. So

1:22:15.600 --> 1:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>he's right in the sense that, Okay, make a campaign

1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>issue out of that. Bang on Tim Walls, and Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Walls is Elmer Fudd with dancing hands. Bang on him

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<v Speaker 1>all you want, but it may come home to haunt

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these states that have Republican governors as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see where it goes. But it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your money, and it's my money. It's federal money. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would be screaming if I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio in Minnesota. This is our money. This is why

1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>every April fifteenth we have to pay federal income tax.

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<v Speaker 1>We work hard for the money. As the song once

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<v Speaker 1>went ESPN reporting that there is yet another New England

1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Patriots player that has been arrested on assault and battery charges.

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<v Speaker 1>This time it is Christian Barmore. Now, apparently this incident

1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:13.559
<v Speaker 1>stemmed from August the eighth, all the way back then,

1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>but it has only been since December sixteenth that it

1:23:18.080 --> 1:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>wound up in front of the police, and Christian Barmore

1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is scheduled to be arraigned in a Massachusetts courtroom on

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<v Speaker 1>February third. This on the heels of what Stephan Diggs

1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>has been accused of doing. So not so many fun

1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and games off the field for the New England Patriots

1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>as they are going through an historically successful season on

1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the field and in college football right now. And I

1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I get this right, because you know,

1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>these bowl games anymore, they're not just this is the

1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Relyoquest Bowl. I'm sure that there was just a large

1:23:57.120 --> 1:24:01.559
<v Speaker 1>appetite to see the Relioquest Bowl. End of the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa twenty four Vanderbilt seventeen. Still to come tonight, A

1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:10.919
<v Speaker 1>couple of more of these ballgames, Arizona State, Duke, Michigan, Texas,

1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and then of course Ohio State Miami in the playoff

1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>seven thirty tonight in the cotton Bowl. Do you like

1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>dark chocolate and coffee? Well, those are two of my obsessions.

1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 1>And apparently this is a good obsession I have because

1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>dark chocolate and coffee not necessarily consumed together. But dark

1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>chocolate and coffee have been linked to a reduction in

1:24:34.439 --> 1:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>cell leader aging. Cell leader aging. Who doesn't want their

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:41.360
<v Speaker 1>cells to slow down a little bit, so we don't

1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>all get old Cragley and die. Well, we're all going

1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to die, but I mean ahead a schedule. People with

1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>higher blood levels of something called theobromine seem to have

1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>slowed cell lead aging, and this is a result of

1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a study that was done hon a significant group of

1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>people over in the UK. Healthy living, we know, may

1:25:03.920 --> 1:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>not make it a last longer, but it will make

1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you last healthier. And you want to stay healthy, right.

1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:13.759
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be somebody that's just chair bound

1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>or bedbound or whatever it may be in the final

1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>five or ten years of your life. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>be you want to be young, You want to be vibrant.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's what Paul Fulford tells me. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy living expert. He is with Sinoshore or maybe

1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:30.439
<v Speaker 1>it's sino Shure. I'm not sure which way it is pronounced,

1:25:30.439 --> 1:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>but Sinoshure Sinoshore Electronics, which is a leader in the

1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>field of medical treatment systems. And he's another guy that says, look,

1:25:37.439 --> 1:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>there could be something to this chocolate coffee thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that carves out time to be with us on

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<v Speaker 1>this New Year's Eve we appreciate, and we appreciate. Paul Fulford,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you on this New Year's Eve?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing wonderful. How are you doing, Ken.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well. Is it Sinoshure or Sinoshore?

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<v Speaker 4>It is sino Shure Electronic.

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<v Speaker 11>And I also have a podcast called Optimized Outcomes where

1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:06.400
<v Speaker 11>we discuss all kinds of topics like this, healthy living,

1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:13.120
<v Speaker 11>anti aging, biohacking, health wellness, mental, physical performance, all pushing

1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:13.760
<v Speaker 11>the outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, wow, what is bio hacking?

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<v Speaker 11>By the way, Basically, if you think about it in

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<v Speaker 11>terms of like a computer, where you're hacking a computer software,

1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:28.680
<v Speaker 11>the body has an operating system, right, And everything that

1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:32.839
<v Speaker 11>we have when we look at our biomarkers is in essence,

1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:36.360
<v Speaker 11>you know something that we can hack, and it's something

1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:39.559
<v Speaker 11>that you know is signaling right, So and what we're

1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:43.000
<v Speaker 11>talking about sort of in this topic is different signaling,

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<v Speaker 11>like with with what coffee and dark chocolate can do,

1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.600
<v Speaker 11>and if we can interrupt that signaling. You know, for

1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:53.000
<v Speaker 11>some reason, sometimes our DNA as we get older decides

1:26:53.080 --> 1:26:54.720
<v Speaker 11>not to repair itself as it did when we were

1:26:54.720 --> 1:26:57.200
<v Speaker 11>in our twenties and thirties. Right, So if we can

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<v Speaker 11>hack that and send the proper signaling to you, so

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<v Speaker 11>then we can actually, you know, forty forty is now

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<v Speaker 11>the new sixty.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically you can you can fliplop it. Well, excuse me,

1:27:10.240 --> 1:27:11.240
<v Speaker 4>sixty is the new forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, ninety is the new seventy. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about aging. It's all about cellular aging. And I'm

1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:23.839
<v Speaker 1>reading here dark chocolate or coffee both can reduce celluator aging. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so explain that I like chocolate, I like coffee. Do

1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I eat more of those things and reduce my cellutor

1:27:29.560 --> 1:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>aging and therefore all live to be one hundred and forty.

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<v Speaker 4>I love where your head is that ken? So the

1:27:36.360 --> 1:27:37.240
<v Speaker 4>headlight is fun.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, the science is interesting, but if you know,

1:27:40.240 --> 1:27:42.439
<v Speaker 11>we've got to keep it honest here, right, there's a

1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:45.519
<v Speaker 11>there's a new study that the doubts. That shows that

1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:49.519
<v Speaker 11>there's an association, not proof that that chocolate is a

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<v Speaker 11>thought of youth. And what it does suggest is people

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<v Speaker 11>with higher levels of the compound called field bromine tend

1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.840
<v Speaker 11>to show signs of slower biological age.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm certain at the genetic clocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So the study that was done, I guess research

1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:12.599
<v Speaker 1>was done in the UK. They had participants in two groups.

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<v Speaker 1>There were like five hundred women in one group and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven hundred and fifty men and women in another group.

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<v Speaker 1>Both had the average age of sixty. So they started

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<v Speaker 1>with that baseline, and then of course they they jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>the test so that one would get these I guess

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<v Speaker 1>THEO one of the theobromines that would that would increase

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<v Speaker 1>the likelihood of cellular aging being put on slow and

1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>others did not. What are we to make of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a big enough test to say, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to, you know, maybe increase my intake in chocolate,

1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:53.759
<v Speaker 1>increase my incake and coffee, or at the very least

1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>make it part of what I do on a diet basis,

1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.599
<v Speaker 1>on a weekly or monthly level, that I can continue

1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:04.639
<v Speaker 1>getting those particular things into my bloodstream and into my body.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we to make of this test?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I mean if you look at that one that

1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:11.599
<v Speaker 11>we're talking about, and like, there's other ones we can

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<v Speaker 11>point to. But there were two big groups of people

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<v Speaker 11>right mostly around sixty one cool heart was the Twins

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<v Speaker 11>UK with about five hundred and nine women, and the

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<v Speaker 11>other one was the Cora cool Heart in Germany.

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<v Speaker 4>That had eleven hundred and sixty men and women.

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<v Speaker 11>And they measured the theobromine in the blood using different tests,

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<v Speaker 11>and they looked at the DNA methylation patterns that ran

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<v Speaker 11>the epigenetic clock models and so in playing English, they

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<v Speaker 11>looked at chemical tags on DNA that shift when age

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<v Speaker 11>can be used to estimate biological aging.

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<v Speaker 1>This so I was just gonna say, but this this alkaloid,

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<v Speaker 1>this theobromine, theobromine, I'm glad to believe that's more of

1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:03.519
<v Speaker 1>something that's in chocolate then it is in coffee or tea.

1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>In other words, if somebody's listening to this and they're

1:30:06.320 --> 1:30:08.479
<v Speaker 1>thinking at oh, chocolate, yeah, it's going to slow down

1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the aging, or coffee it's going to slow down my aging.

1:30:11.240 --> 1:30:14.559
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they start downing triple shot lattes four

1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>or five times a day. Their heart's going to explode.

1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:20.599
<v Speaker 1>So I guess what are we talking about moderation here, Paul?

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you don't, You're You're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 11>They don't need to start pounding expressos or eating bricks

1:30:27.640 --> 1:30:28.920
<v Speaker 11>of dark chocolate tonight, right.

1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:31.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you if you do that, you're.

1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:32.960
<v Speaker 11>Gonna feel young for about forty five minutes.

1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:38.479
<v Speaker 4>Then you're gonna die. Then your your heart rate at

1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>two am is going to be serious.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, So the study does not tell us you know this,

1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:47.479
<v Speaker 11>you know, in the studies don't tell us how much

1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:51.520
<v Speaker 11>chocolate or coffee to consume. It didn't even really reliably

1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:54.760
<v Speaker 11>track coffee intaking a peru tice way. It looked at

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<v Speaker 11>the biomarker in the blood one point at a time.

1:30:58.040 --> 1:30:58.240
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:00.800
<v Speaker 11>So that's the big limitation with this stuff. And again

1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:02.800
<v Speaker 11>that's why in the in the beginning we were talking

1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:07.280
<v Speaker 11>about them. It looks like something that you want to

1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:12.360
<v Speaker 11>you know, implement, but it's there's not like a lot

1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:16.919
<v Speaker 11>of clinical evidence showing there's there's associations not you know, basically,

1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:19.679
<v Speaker 11>this is not a prescription for something, so to speak.

1:31:19.880 --> 1:31:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, exactly exactly and I think with a lot

1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:24.519
<v Speaker 1>of these things that pop up from time to time

1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on poll pop culture, that's the way they should be

1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>taken as things that, look, this can do your body

1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>some good, but anything in excess can do your body harm.

1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And so keep that in the back of your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people tonight, right now, today,

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<v Speaker 1>probably for the last few days, that have been thinking about, Okay,

1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>how can I live healthier in twenty twenty six? And

1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the normal things come to the top of

1:31:48.920 --> 1:31:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the list. Get some sleep, go to the gym, even

1:31:51.680 --> 1:31:53.519
<v Speaker 1>if you just go out for a walk every day

1:31:53.640 --> 1:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to help you in some way, shape or

1:31:56.040 --> 1:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>form make you feel healthier. But what about eating? Because

1:32:00.520 --> 1:32:02.639
<v Speaker 1>you can't run away from a bad diet. We can

1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>talk all we want about exercising, it's not going to

1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>be You're not going to be able to exercise your

1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>way out of a bad diet. What should people be

1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking about tonight today, whatever it may be, about living

1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>healthier in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, that's a great question, and it is you know,

1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:23.320
<v Speaker 11>right on time as far as what time of year

1:32:23.320 --> 1:32:24.840
<v Speaker 11>we're in, and it is it is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, like we talked about with the things that

1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:33.120
<v Speaker 11>I do, and uh, there's a couple of different things

1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:35.200
<v Speaker 11>I find myself going to run. You know, we were

1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:38.400
<v Speaker 11>talking about biohacking earlier, and it's in the tech world.

1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:43.080
<v Speaker 11>It's it's garbage and garbage out. If you have bad inputs,

1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:46.400
<v Speaker 11>you're going to have bad outputs, right, So if you're

1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:48.800
<v Speaker 11>if you're eating, you know, I don't care what side

1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:51.320
<v Speaker 11>of the aisle somebody falls on. Make America Healthy Again

1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:54.880
<v Speaker 11>as an importing initiative, and we're looking at a lot

1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:58.680
<v Speaker 11>of the things with the food supply when it as

1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:01.479
<v Speaker 11>it relates to how somebody should be eating. There's kind

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<v Speaker 11>of like a rule of thumb where it's like ninety

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<v Speaker 11>thirty fifty, where it's ninety grams of protein, thirty grams

1:33:10.840 --> 1:33:15.240
<v Speaker 11>of healthy fats, and fifty grams of nutrient dent. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>carbs are in your whole foods, right, and it's.

1:33:18.640 --> 1:33:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Also calories in calories out right.

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<v Speaker 11>You've got a lot of things out now with GLP

1:33:22.840 --> 1:33:25.759
<v Speaker 11>ones and those are a big buzzword with people losing weight,

1:33:26.040 --> 1:33:29.840
<v Speaker 11>which you've got to mitigate those. There's actually a lot

1:33:29.920 --> 1:33:32.160
<v Speaker 11>there's been a study and it's now a Netflix show

1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:36.880
<v Speaker 11>called Blue Zones, and they look into these centurions and

1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:40.080
<v Speaker 11>in these different pockets of the world where people live

1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:42.880
<v Speaker 11>the longest, and they have three basic things in common.

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<v Speaker 5>One they have.

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<v Speaker 11>They eat nutrient dense whole foods, right, no garbage, nutrient

1:33:50.920 --> 1:33:54.479
<v Speaker 11>dense whole foods. They have regular levels of activity, and

1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:57.439
<v Speaker 11>that can just mean not necessarily hardcore working out. It

1:33:57.479 --> 1:34:01.280
<v Speaker 11>could be regularly walking, they're performing pasts on a regular basis,

1:34:01.280 --> 1:34:04.360
<v Speaker 11>they're taking stairs, they're not taking elevators, They're doing all

1:34:04.360 --> 1:34:07.519
<v Speaker 11>these regular things. And then the third thing is having

1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:12.120
<v Speaker 11>a sense of community, having emotional connections. Those three things

1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:14.720
<v Speaker 11>people that live the longest in the world have. And

1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:18.479
<v Speaker 11>if there's two areas that people can look at and

1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:22.719
<v Speaker 11>dial in for longevity, it's making sure that gut health

1:34:22.800 --> 1:34:24.920
<v Speaker 11>is down in and that they have some muscle that

1:34:24.920 --> 1:34:27.599
<v Speaker 11>they're working on building muscles. Those are your two biggest

1:34:28.080 --> 1:34:29.960
<v Speaker 11>markers for identifying longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>What are nutrient dense foods? You said nutrient dense foods.

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<v Speaker 1>I think before when you were breaking it down, it

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<v Speaker 1>was protein, and then I think you said something with

1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>regards to dense carbohydrates. If I'm not mistaken, what do

1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you know about those things.

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<v Speaker 11>So when I say that, I mean like if you

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<v Speaker 11>think about like a Mediterranean diet, right, you look at

1:34:53.280 --> 1:34:59.479
<v Speaker 11>eating the rainbow as far as the vegetables can be concerned, right,

1:34:59.520 --> 1:35:03.120
<v Speaker 11>you want things that are Again, again, it's more expensive

1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:05.080
<v Speaker 11>beat this way. And I think that's why the food

1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.000
<v Speaker 11>supply piece is a great thing, because if we can

1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:10.440
<v Speaker 11>find ways to make food better, healthier and more accessible,

1:35:10.600 --> 1:35:11.160
<v Speaker 11>that's better.

1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:13.719
<v Speaker 5>But you want to eat.

1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:16.160
<v Speaker 11>Your complex carbs, right, you want to eat things that

1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:19.479
<v Speaker 11>are You're better off eating a sweet potato versus a

1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:20.200
<v Speaker 11>white potato.

1:35:21.760 --> 1:35:23.879
<v Speaker 4>There's as far as nutrient dnse.

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<v Speaker 11>Whole foods, there's a lot of things where like if

1:35:26.320 --> 1:35:28.880
<v Speaker 11>you go to Costco, it's like practical examples. They have

1:35:29.040 --> 1:35:33.240
<v Speaker 11>these jackfruit chips where they are something that you can

1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:36.720
<v Speaker 11>have that's crunchy, something that has a lot of very

1:35:36.800 --> 1:35:41.520
<v Speaker 11>minimal colork intake with a lot of nutrient dense aspects

1:35:41.520 --> 1:35:41.800
<v Speaker 11>to it.

1:35:41.840 --> 1:35:45.639
<v Speaker 4>So there's a wide range of nutrient dnse whole foods

1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:46.639
<v Speaker 4>that we can eat. Right.

1:35:46.640 --> 1:35:51.160
<v Speaker 11>That also, eating those things fills you up longer, Especially

1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:53.280
<v Speaker 11>protein definitely fills you up longer.

1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:55.680
<v Speaker 4>And when you're eating.

1:35:55.320 --> 1:36:00.000
<v Speaker 11>Foods, it also requires you to consume energy and calorie

1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:05.000
<v Speaker 11>is to process those foods, right. So nutrient dent is

1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:09.680
<v Speaker 11>kind of a broad word that speaks to eating basically

1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:14.479
<v Speaker 11>whole organic fruits and vegetables that are consuming and filling

1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:19.200
<v Speaker 11>that will provide that either carb to carb the sugar conversion,

1:36:19.280 --> 1:36:22.320
<v Speaker 11>and again, getting your sugar from fruits is a lot

1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:24.800
<v Speaker 11>better way to get your sugars versus drinking sugar in

1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:28.360
<v Speaker 11>your coffee, right, because that's what our body uses for energy.

1:36:29.760 --> 1:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean all of that makes sense. The other

1:36:32.160 --> 1:36:34.519
<v Speaker 1>thing that makes sense to me, and it was told

1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to me many many years ago. And every time I

1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>walk into a Kroger, which is a major grocery chain

1:36:39.800 --> 1:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>here in Ohio and Kentucky, I walk in there and

1:36:44.760 --> 1:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I was told shop the perimeter of the store because invaribly,

1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that's where the healthiest foods are. And then as you

1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>get into the aisles, you get into the things that

1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:58.679
<v Speaker 1>if you actually read the label, some of those things

1:36:58.680 --> 1:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>would absolutely shot as to what's in those foods. And

1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:05.519
<v Speaker 1>if you don't understand what's on the label of something

1:37:05.560 --> 1:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you're buying, it probably shouldn't buy it. But the is

1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the store is where the healthiest foods.

1:37:11.439 --> 1:37:14.800
<v Speaker 11>Are you know ken that's that did one hundred percent.

1:37:14.880 --> 1:37:18.439
<v Speaker 11>I've said that same statement many times, right, And then

1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:21.479
<v Speaker 11>when you are in the aisles, you one hundred percent

1:37:21.640 --> 1:37:24.760
<v Speaker 11>have to look at the labeling because if it's something

1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:28.599
<v Speaker 11>you can't pronounce, you shouldn't need it. Right, And there's

1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:32.360
<v Speaker 11>a big push now with again because and it has

1:37:32.400 --> 1:37:34.400
<v Speaker 11>to do like you look at the marketing for the

1:37:34.439 --> 1:37:36.240
<v Speaker 11>companies and I'm not knocking their hustle.

1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:38.479
<v Speaker 4>They have to move product, but they switch. Right. It

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<v Speaker 4>was for the longest time it was low fat, no fat.

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<v Speaker 4>Then now then there was the gluten free push. Now

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<v Speaker 4>it's high protein.

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<v Speaker 11>There's protein in everything because of the need for protein

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<v Speaker 11>with people on these glp ones and everything else. So

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<v Speaker 11>the sourcing of the materials and if you can't pronounce it,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, the fewer the ingredients, the better you one

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<v Speaker 11>hundred sending me out it with shop the perimeter and

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<v Speaker 11>when you go into the aisles, you've got to read

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<v Speaker 11>the labels and have your phone so that you can

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<v Speaker 11>look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got Paul Fulford Sino shore Elutronics. Sino Shore

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<v Speaker 1>Leutronic is where you can find him. And again the

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<v Speaker 1>name of your podcast that has all that great stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you were talking about. Where do people what's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of it, Where do people find it?

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<v Speaker 11>It's called Optimized Outcomes and it's on Spotify, Apple Music,

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<v Speaker 11>and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>As they say, all platforms. Paul, good stuff. Happy new

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<v Speaker 1>Year to you, Happy healthy new year to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>sense I don't have to say that, but in any

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<v Speaker 1>event I will. Happy healthy new year to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your time today. We appreciate it you

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Thank you, Kenn you. Yeah. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>run out tonight, have the biggest piece of chocolate cake

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<v Speaker 1>I can find and wash it down with a I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make it a decaf, you know. Got to get to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at some point two fifty four on this New

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