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Speaker 1: And so as cities prepare for New Year's Eve events tonight,

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Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW for many many years. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Alex Dale Carmen is a criminologist. He taught criminology at

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Speaker 1: And it's great he can spend some time with us

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Speaker 1: now here on seven hundred WLWE. Doctor, how are you

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great because I'm talking with you, ken.

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Speaker 1: Ah, God bless you for saying that. And I meant it.

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Speaker 3: Not going to go to sleep tonight, or are not

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Speaker 1: It is. It is great, and it is in a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, doctor del Carmen, not that native born

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Speaker 1: But that's what worries me the most. We let so

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Speaker 1: That's what bothers me the most here on this New

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Speaker 6: them as the official leader of the country. They said,

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Speaker 6: he's the leader of the Cartel of the Suns, which

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Speaker 6: is a terrorist organization, which means that they could justifiably

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Speaker 6: do a target strike or navy seals rate or something

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Speaker 6: kill him. And there's also a government in waiting for Venezuela,

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Speaker 6: which both Trump and Biden have acknowledged. In fact, the

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Speaker 6: transition government in waiting. The guy lives in Florida. It's

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Speaker 6: Juan Glido. And you know, it wouldn't mean he'd be

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Speaker 6: in power per se. But they have a process already

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Speaker 6: established because of again the twenty eighteen elections in Venezuela

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Speaker 6: mass protests, and they believe there's enough popular support for

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Speaker 6: that that toppling Maduro would not be a difficult process.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Meduro is in power. The only people that

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Speaker 1: want Maduro in power right now appear to be Meduro

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Speaker 1: and his cronies. But Trump's got something to figure out here.

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Speaker 1: I think eventually you run out of cigar boats carrying

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Speaker 1: drugs to blow up, and eventually there are only so

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Speaker 1: many tankers you can seize. So again, what's his endgame here?

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Speaker 1: Is it boots on the ground in Venezuela. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he has an appetite for that in Venezuela or anywhere.

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Speaker 1: How does he get Maduro out of power? How does

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Speaker 1: he stop these cartels who basically run Venezuela at the

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Speaker 1: behesta Maduro. How does he get those cartels to stop

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Speaker 1: transferring drugs up to the United States? I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: got to be some sort of plan here. What's the endgame?

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Speaker 4: I think?

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Speaker 6: I think what they're going to do is they're going

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Speaker 6: to either force Maduro to step down or they're going

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Speaker 6: to kill him. What because he's again having designated the

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Speaker 6: cartel the SUNS as both a terrorist organization and as

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Speaker 6: again the you know, targeted cartel organization, right and with

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Speaker 6: Maduro being designated the leader of it and basically head

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Speaker 6: the heads of the state and military being deemed leaders

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Speaker 6: of it. What you're going to be watching is Maduro

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Speaker 6: is going to be treated like Bin Laden. He's the

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Speaker 6: new bin Laden. And we don't have to engage in

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Speaker 6: the full military to overthrow bin Laden. You just go

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Speaker 6: in there, rate him at you know, midnight whatever, shoot

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Speaker 6: him and throw him off and throw him into the

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Speaker 6: ocean like you know that that could very likely happen.

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Speaker 6: Trump has said publicly that he will not start a war.

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Speaker 6: There is not going to be a full scale war.

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Speaker 6: But Maduro's days are numbered, and it seems he has

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Speaker 6: given him a will ultimatum. Step down, You're going to die.

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Speaker 6: And you know, for better or for worse. People can

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Speaker 6: agree with that or not. But but now that he

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Speaker 6: has designated a terrorist leader, America does have the you know,

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Speaker 6: the the clearance of say in terms of like war

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Speaker 6: you know, laws and so on to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just playing through the political ramifications of

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Speaker 1: this scenario if it does come to pass. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got the Democrats right now exactly where Trump wants them.

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Speaker 1: They have sided with the Narco terrorist squad. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: embracing MS thirteen gang members. I can't, for the life

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Speaker 1: of me believe that that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: But that's what they want to do. Now, if he

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Speaker 1: goes into Venezuela and either the CIA or Navy seals

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Speaker 1: take out Maduro, I can't imagine what the Democrats would

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Speaker 1: react to there. You can't necessarily, if you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: come out and say, hey, Maduro is our guy? You

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Speaker 1: know this? Yeah, what is he doing now?

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 1: You can't blow up our guy? Right?

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Speaker 6: You know, I wouldn't be Okay, this is where I

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Speaker 6: think it's going to go. You're going to see the

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Speaker 6: media make a stink about it, without a doubt they're

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Speaker 6: gonna make you know, they're going to be indignant politically.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's going to come out very quickly

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Speaker 6: that this was also Biden's policy. Maybe not kill Maduro,

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Speaker 6: but the Biden administration just before the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: elections was basically saying they're going to do the same thing.

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Speaker 6: They were talking openly about forcing a regime change in Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Now does that mean killing him, you know, killing Maduro?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. But but under under the Biden administration

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Speaker 6: that this was also the policy, and I think the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration could easily drag that back out and make

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Speaker 6: that case. But you know, the media these days, they

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Speaker 6: just want to they want they want to scandal, regardless

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Speaker 6: of history, and so they're going to make a big

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Speaker 6: deal about it, of course, regardless, especially right before the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the media these days, particularly those that

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Speaker 1: cover Washington, d c. Are populated by people who think

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Speaker 1: they are the next Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward, when

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Speaker 1: in essence they couldn't find Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward

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Speaker 1: on a map. But it does serve another purpose here.

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Speaker 1: If indeed he does this, and he goes into Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: it would be a warning shot across the bowl of

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Speaker 1: any of these South American countries who are in essence

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Speaker 1: run by drug cartels himself to let's the nonsense is over.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's we're not playing that game anymore. So maybe

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Speaker 1: therein is another aspect of this.

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Speaker 6: I think he wants that. And so on that point,

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Speaker 6: Trump as we speak is also threatening the president of Columbia,

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Speaker 6: and he's even threatening Mexico. And I mean, I don't

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Speaker 6: know if you'd go and you know, do targeted tricks

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Speaker 6: president of Mexico, you know that'd be pretty shocking. But

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Speaker 6: if you remember when Trump was on the campaign trial,

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Speaker 6: he was saying he was going to do this. This

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Speaker 6: was part of Trump's campaign promise. And what do you say.

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Speaker 6: He did a very long video. I'm talking it was

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Speaker 6: at least I think fifteen minutes, but it was very long,

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Speaker 6: and he laid out his plan to use the entire

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Speaker 6: US military, every power they had, intelligence networks, US Navy,

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Speaker 6: targeted strikes, airstrikes, special forces, raids, all of this, he

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Speaker 6: said to destroy the drug cartels. He said he was

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Speaker 6: going to do everything we now see him being done.

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Speaker 6: And in addition to that, he said that if any

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Speaker 6: government tries to stop him, he will expose the ties

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Speaker 6: of that government to the cartels, which you know, Maduro

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Speaker 6: is the first example of and Trump right now has

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Speaker 6: made that an open threat. And the unfortunate part for

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Speaker 6: a lot of those government of Latin America is a

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Speaker 6: lot of them are tied to the cartails in one

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Speaker 6: way or another. And if Trump says, hey, you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, he likes to tell the story where he's

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Speaker 6: talking to this like terrorist guy and he shows him

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Speaker 6: a picture of his house, you know, from the sky,

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Speaker 6: and he's like, mister Trump why do you show me

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Speaker 6: a picture of my house?

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Speaker 2: And he says, well, you know, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: put two and two.

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Speaker 6: Together on that one, you know. But he's basically doing

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Speaker 6: the same thing to most of the Latin American governments effectively.

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Speaker 6: And on that point too, a lot of people say, well,

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Speaker 6: didn't Trump just pardon you know the fore of the

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Speaker 6: former presidents. I believe it was his Honduris I believe,

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Speaker 6: who was also arrested on drug charges. That ties into

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Speaker 6: what I said earlier. This is about the re establishment

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Speaker 6: to the Monroe doctrine. Part of it is about drugs,

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Speaker 6: but the bigger context of it is Trump is tried.

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Speaker 6: He was trying to establish loyalist leaders to America within

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Speaker 6: the Latin American region to begin again re establishing US

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Speaker 6: presents throughout the whole region and then from there dismantling

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Speaker 6: criminal networks. Is establishing kind an American answer to the

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Speaker 6: Chinese belts and Roade initiative, meaning infrastructure projects, and begin

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Speaker 6: changing the region effectively.

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Speaker 1: When does all of this in Venezuela come to a head?

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Speaker 1: When do we get either Maduro out or Trump puts

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Speaker 1: his head on a platter. How quickly or how soon

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Speaker 1: does all of this play out in your opinion?

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Speaker 6: You know that that's a good question. The way Trump

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Speaker 6: is talking, you could say any day now. There's also

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Speaker 6: the chance if he believes it could harm the Republicans

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Speaker 6: during the mid terms, there maybe he'll wait till afterwards,

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Speaker 6: or maybe he'll think it'll be strategically valuable to do

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Speaker 6: it before. I think, I actually think opinion polls in

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Speaker 6: terms of the media hit pieces Trump blowing up. You know,

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Speaker 6: fishing boats. Fishing boats, by the way, they're like semi

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Speaker 6: submersibles or like four engine you know, you know, rocket jets.

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Speaker 6: You know, of course big engines painted blue, so they

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Speaker 6: blend into the ocean and they have no fishing equipment.

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Speaker 6: But you know, beside the point, that's modern journalism. I

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Speaker 6: think opinion polls left and form whether he thinks it's

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Speaker 6: good to do it now or wait a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the always unpredictable president Donald J. Trump, the predictable

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Speaker 1: Joshua Philip and I will predict that he is working

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Speaker 1: on his next documentary even as we speak. That's for

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Speaker 1: the future. Joshua, for your time today, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it always.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Drugs and oil, drugs and oil. It's all about drugs

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Speaker 1: and oil when it comes to Latin American countries. We'll

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Speaker 1: see exactly how this one plays out. But he's right,

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Speaker 1: it could play out tonight, it could play out after

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Speaker 1: the midterms. We're going to play it out here between

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Speaker 1: now and three, coming up at one six. Why are

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Speaker 1: women spending a fortune to have their ribs removed? Apparently

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Speaker 1: this is a thing. Now I had no idea about it,

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Speaker 1: but apparently this is a thing that looks slimmer. And

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Speaker 1: then down the road Jimbernaesy, former congressman, on Somali fraud

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and how deep does it run in Ohio

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Speaker 1: because currently it's a problem here according to several attorneys.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about all of that and much

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Speaker 1: much more. It's the average American in for the Great

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Speaker 1: American on this day before New Year's twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: ken Brew for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred wl W. It

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Speaker 1: is what are seven on this New Year's Eve twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five? Well, come on, and it's the average American

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Speaker 1: in for the Great American. As we count the final

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Speaker 1: hours down to calendar year twenty twenty five, the highs

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Speaker 1: and the lows and the rest of the show of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five will go in the books, and we

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Speaker 1: begin a whole new chapter in twenty twenty six. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what all of us want, as a

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Speaker 1: whole new chapter. It's not that the last chapter was

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Speaker 1: bad or the chapter before that. I'm sure there were

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Speaker 1: good chapters and bad chapters in twenty twenty five. But

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Speaker 1: it's the future that we look at because the future

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Speaker 1: is the only thing we have that well, actually it's today.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing we have to control. The future

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Speaker 1: is not known in the past. Is the past? Carry

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Speaker 1: that thought tonight? Is you're getting slob or notocked. This

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable. You know, all of us want to look young.

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Speaker 1: We want to look pretty. We want to do the

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Speaker 1: things that we did at the age of fifty that

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Speaker 1: we could do at the age of twenty. We want

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Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and see our best self.

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Speaker 1: Some people can do that. Some people have good genes,

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Speaker 1: other people have good doctors. And in the world of

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Speaker 1: plastic surgery, this is apparently one of the hot new things.

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Speaker 1: Women having their ribs removed, Say ken, why would women

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Speaker 1: want their wit ribs removed? Well for a thinner waistline.

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Speaker 1: It ain't cheap, you'll get a thinner waistline. And man,

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Speaker 1: does this sound painful? And when things sound painful, he

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Speaker 1: turned to a doctor, and in this case the plastic

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Speaker 1: surgeon to the stars, doctor Bruce Herman Ford certified plastic surgeon,

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Speaker 1: performs a wide range of procedures and has his own

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Speaker 1: weekly show called Nip Talk. Nip Talk right now, he's

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Speaker 1: with us here on seven hundred wylwo Doctor Herman, Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year, and how are you on this glorious day.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Ken's good to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to hear from you as well. Now,

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Speaker 1: did you remove any ribs today?

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Speaker 4: I not do that and I will not do that.

651
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 4: I was pretty shocked.

652
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 7: When that news article hit and I had to instantly

653
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 7: go look it up because I was kind of surprised

654
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 7: to hear that people were doing that these days. You know,

655
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 7: that surgery has been around since the nineteen seventies, but

656
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 7: never really caught on for the maybe obvious reasons of hey,

657
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 7: it's kind of you know, risky to do that and

658
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 7: also very painful. Actually dug into that article and it

659
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 7: came from a girl who was posting on TikTok.

660
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: Of course, right, and so I tried, yeah, of course.

661
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 7: So I tried to figure out where she had it

662
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 7: done because I would be surprised if she had it

663
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 7: done in the United States.

664
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: And she and I actually had.

665
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 7: To do some resource so I was forced to watch

666
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 7: like many minutes of TikTok.

667
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: This is time I'll never get back in my life.

668
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: But to be thorough, I wanted to make sure I

669
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: got all the.

670
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 7: Information, and she actually refused to say where she got

671
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 7: it done. I'm pretty certain she had.

672
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: It done out of the United States.

673
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 7: Because this is the crazy part which wasn't in that article.

674
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: I think that you.

675
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 7: Guys saw she actually got her ribs in a plastic bag.

676
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 4: They gave her the ribs and.

677
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 7: She was showing them off on TikTok, which is the

678
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 7: craziest thing.

679
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: And they really looked legit, they look like the ribs

680
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: would look.

681
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 7: And I just don't think anyone in America would do that,

682
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 7: Like that's kind of like a biohazard to give people,

683
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 7: you know, their body part.

684
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 4: In a plastic bag like that.

685
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 7: So this sounds like an out of the country experience

686
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 7: that this person.

687
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: Had right, it's value added. I mean they could put

688
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: that on the advertisement. You know, whatever we take out

689
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you get to take home, you can.

690
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: Add it back.

691
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: Oh.

692
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: She was showing the bob. It was one video. She

693
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 4: was holding them with her hand.

694
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, that's so insane, Like

695
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 7: I kind of flabbergasted, but.

696
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: Sorry, go ahead.

697
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: I was going to say that the surgery ain't cheap.

698
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: This woman, I think it's the same woman. She said

699
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: she spent about fourteen thousand dollars. They took out six ribs,

700
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: three on each side, and it's to shrink her waist

701
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: from a from a thirty two inch waist to a

702
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: twenty four inch waist. And she said it was very painful,

703
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: very painful. And my question to you is doctor, you

704
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: know you all go to every doctor before he specializes

705
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. You you go to

706
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: the university, you go to the universal entrance to the

707
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: world of medicine. Am I right about that?

708
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: I mean, well, yeah, it's plastic surgeons. We go and

709
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 7: we get general training and then a lot of people specialize.

710
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: So I specialize in breast and body. But yeah, yeah,

711
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: you're correct.

712
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Ok Okay, So you're a doctor before you're I guess

713
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: a specialist. A doctor would look at this and think,

714
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: all right, there's a reason why you would have ribs

715
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: on each side of your body. They're obviously protecting something.

716
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: So what do you yes when you take out when

717
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: you take out three ribs on each side. Yeah, I'm

718
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: most wondering what are you exposing at that.

719
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 7: Point as you're exposing like your spleen on your left side,

720
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 7: which is not good because the spleen is very vulnerable

721
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 7: to injury. In fact, in car crashes, a lot of

722
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 7: people get splinnic injuries and have to have them removed.

723
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: And even more importantly, on the right side, you're protecting

724
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 7: your liver, which that's not easy to think if it

725
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 7: gets injured. So, yeah, there is that side of it,

726
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 7: you know. You know, you're removing basically your body's natural armor,

727
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 7: which is there for a reason. Like if this lady

728
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 7: goes and gets in a car crash, like she's much

729
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 7: more vulnerable to like potentially life threatening injuries. I mean,

730
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 7: there's just a multitude of reasons why I wouldn't do

731
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 7: the surgery.

732
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: I mean, that's definitely one of them.

733
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 7: You know, the pain, the risk, I mean, the one

734
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: thing I will say, and this is not any way

735
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 7: an advertisement for doing this, that I am against this,

736
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 7: but it does work. I looked at this girl's photos

737
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 7: and I was like, wow, okay, that did make a difference.

738
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 7: But to me, it's just too risky, Like there's just

739
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 7: too many short term and long term risks to recommend

740
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 7: doing this. But I will tell you I want.

741
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: Your listeners to have full information.

742
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 7: There is a newer technique out there, which I will

743
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 7: not do because I still think it's too risky. But

744
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 7: there are some plastic surgeons within the United States. They're

745
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 7: doing a procedure called rib x CAR and what they

746
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: do is they don't take out the ribs, but they

747
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 7: make a very very tiny incision. They drill a couple

748
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 7: holes in the rib which allows it to basically infracture

749
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 7: and you get the same result.

750
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: But without taking out the rib. Now I would not

751
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: do this.

752
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 7: I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone doing this, but like, if

753
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 7: somebody had their heart set on doing something of that nature,

754
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 7: I would definitely do the lesser invasive procedure than removing

755
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 7: the ribs.

756
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: Like removing the ribs entirely, to me, is a bad idea, Like.

757
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't why wouldn't somebody opt for liposuction if there's

758
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: if there's if there if you want to do that

759
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: now I know, and I understand maybe you get skin

760
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: flab or that flappy skin or whatever it is. I

761
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: understand all that, but you could probably get that fixed too.

762
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just wondering, why wouldn't somebody opt for

763
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: that as opposed to you know, going to you know,

764
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: having a rib dinner serve to somebody?

765
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 7: Right, Well, the reason for it, there is a reason,

766
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 7: There is an answer to that question is because you know,

767
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 7: liposuction removes the subcutaneous fat. But the concern and these

768
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 7: people have is the actual structural skeletal component, which liposuction

769
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 7: won't alter that. You know, if somebody has like a big,

770
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 7: you know, barrel chest or wide hips naturally because of

771
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 7: their skeletal structure, Like LiPo is not going to really

772
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 7: change that entirely.

773
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you can, you.

774
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 7: Can alter what's above the bones, but liposuction doesn't alter

775
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 7: the structure. This this surgery alters the structure. And again

776
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that is the reason that people should

777
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: go out and do this, because I I don't think

778
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 7: this is a good thing, and I would never do it,

779
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 7: but that that is the answer, is it's it's changing

780
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 7: something more structurally deep than just the overlying fat.

781
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: So you're taking somebody is taking ribs out to get

782
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: a smaller waist. That's the idea. Okay, if that's the

783
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: woman I'm ringing, is she is she she wanted to

784
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: feel prettier. Well, okay, I suppose maybe she has other

785
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: issues with self esteem and then that's one way to

786
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: fix that. I think she. I think she's got a

787
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: few things going on. But but the.

788
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 7: Fact that man, she's had like tons of surgery done,

789
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: Like her whole feed was, Like all these surgeries she's had,

790
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 7: it's crazy.

791
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Remember that there was one one woman that was out there,

792
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: like when the Barbie movie came out, she wanted she

793
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: had all that plastic surgery done to look like Barbie

794
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: and like like why you know, because most guys get

795
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: turned on on that could get they could get an

796
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: inflatable Bardie Barbie doll and be happy. But but my point,

797
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: my point in all this is no surgery is is

798
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: all surgeries come with some sort of discomfort, if not pain.

799
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: If you're taking bodily structure out. If you're taking ribs out,

800
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: good lord, the pain level on that has to be

801
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: through the roof.

802
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

803
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And I will add, which is one thing that's

804
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 7: important to know. This girl did come back like three

805
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 7: months after a surgery and said, I made a mistake.

806
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 4: I would not do this surgery.

807
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Over my ribs back. Can you put them back in?

808
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: Here?

809
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Are my ribs? Can you put them back in? No?

810
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 7: Sorry one way, but yeah, she came back and said,

811
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 7: I do not recommend the surgery for anyone. So I

812
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 7: mean that's a I guess a good thing for people

813
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 7: to hear. Is this This person that this whole article

814
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 7: spawned up from came back and said I made a mistake.

815
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: I would not do this again.

816
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, you guys man, you guys in the in

817
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: the plastic surgery biz. From what I can tell, you

818
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: work with what God gave you. In other words, if

819
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: I came into you and I said, you know, I'd

820
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: really like to look like George Clooney in my aging years,

821
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: you'd be said, look, I can't. I'm not I'm not

822
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: a magician. I'm a doctor. You kind of work with

823
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: what you got when you start messing around with structure.

824
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's like taking that's like taking afford focus

825
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: into a garage and saying, Okay, I'm going to remove this,

826
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: and you got a ferrari Now, I mean you could

827
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: only work with what you got. I think once you

828
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: start messing around with that stuff, I think you're full

829
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: of your you're you're, you're, you're just with the primal

830
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: forces of nature you're messing with those things. I don't

831
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: think the doctor really of any note in this country

832
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: would ever do something like that, do you.

833
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 7: I agree with you one hundred percent. That's why I

834
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 7: was really trying to dig to see where this happened. Yeah,

835
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 7: I mean it all comes down to, you know, risk

836
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 7: and reward, right, I mean I I mean there's certain

837
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: surgeries that are sort of calmon that I won't do

838
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 7: because of the risks, like the Brazilian butt lift.

839
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: And I think we talked about this one of the

840
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: other times we chatted, like.

841
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: I won't do Brazilian butt lists.

842
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: Because they're risky.

843
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 7: And it's like to me, it's like, you know, doing

844
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 7: something esthetic is fine if the risks are minable, but

845
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 7: when those risks start to climb where it includes things

846
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 7: like death, I'm out, like I'm not in for my

847
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 7: patients dying like I'm out. And so you know, unfortunately,

848
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 7: I don't know if every surgeon you know, adheres to

849
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: that kind of you know, strict safety regiment that I do.

850
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 7: And so that's why you you know, you hear these

851
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 7: stories in the news, the people who go and you know,

852
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 7: try to change something their body and end up, you know,

853
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 7: maimed or dead, and yeah, I just didn't. I'm not

854
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 7: like that, man. I'll do like the easy stuff and

855
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 7: the stuff that is you know, accepted as being safe.

856
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: But man, when he gets into stuff like taking.

857
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 7: Out ribs or wrists of bam with Brazilian butt lit,

858
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 7: I'm out, man, I'm just not going to do it.

859
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Doctor Bruce Herman, our guest board certified plastic surgeon. We're

860
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: talking about how some women are now spending a fortune

861
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: to have ribs removed to give them a a slimmer waistline.

862
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: There's all kinds. There are all kinds of Charlatans out there,

863
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: as you know, in in in your business that'll you know,

864
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: you go. The Brazilian butt lift is a great thing.

865
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: I think maybe you and I did a segment on

866
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: how people were going to Mexico to get a Brazilian

867
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: butt lift and not coming back. They were they were

868
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: apprehended by the cartels down there or whatever. I just did. Yeah,

869
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: I did a segment last week with a guy who

870
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Speaker 1: is allegedly the number one hair transplant surgeon in America.

871
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: He lives in Fort Lauderdale, and we were talking about

872
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: how people are getting on planes. Bald guys are getting

873
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: on planes and flying to Turkey to get these plug

874
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: treatments done. Where you know this guy is a legit

875
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: doctor doing it. The guy the people do it in Turkey.

876
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: They may have like an operating room that's right next

877
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: to a hair salon, that's like next to a rail pollard,

878
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: that's next to a quick trip where you can get

879
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: a salami sandwich. It's just I mean, you got to

880
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: know what you're getting and if you have, if you

881
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: see something that's advertised out there, yeah, come down here.

882
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: It's a fraction of the cost. Well, okay, you may

883
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: come back a fraction of the person that you went

884
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Speaker 1: down there as. So I mean, you've got to be

885
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: careful with these things, don't you.

886
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 7: Oh one hundred percent, Like I'm really against medical tourism

887
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 7: where people go out of the country because you know,

888
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 7: I mean.

889
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: You kind of hit the nail on the head. You know,

890
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 4: you don't know who's doing it.

891
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 7: I mean, it can be hard in the United States

892
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 7: to know who's legit and who's not when you go

893
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 7: out of the country. I mean, you just have no idea.

894
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 7: You don't know if the training they had is proper.

895
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 7: You don't know what the sort of occasions they have

896
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 7: are legitimate. I mean, anyone can make a great web page, right,

897
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 7: I mean, a person off the street can make a

898
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Speaker 7: web page that look like the best, you know, plastic

899
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 7: surgeon in the world. And it's easy to deceive people.

900
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Speaker 7: And so you know, when you go outside of the country,

901
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 7: you just don't know what you're getting. Plus, you know,

902
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 7: one of the biggest problems of going out of the

903
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Speaker 7: country is, you know, if you have complications. Number One,

904
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Speaker 7: you typically have them after you come back. I mean

905
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 7: you're not even the same country as your surgeon. And

906
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Speaker 7: then two, there's no recourse. You know, recent in the

907
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Speaker 7: United States, if you go and you have surgery somebody

908
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 7: and you get botched, you have the ability to get

909
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 7: legal renumeration, right, you can sue them. You can't sue

910
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 7: someone in Turkey, like that's impossible. And so yeah, I've

911
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 7: been talking about medical tourism and like the dangers of it,

912
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: and now you have even you know, the UK has

913
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 7: issued a bunch of warnings because it's mostly the UK

914
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 7: and europe people going to Turkey. We here in the

915
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Speaker 7: United States people tend to go to South America or wherever.

916
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 7: But now you got the U k issuing warnings because

917
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 7: what's happening is all these people are having complications and

918
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 7: then they get into the NHS or the National Health

919
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 7: Services and it's costing the government a bunch of money

920
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 7: to like to fix these people. And so like the

921
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 7: government now is like stepping in. So yeah, it's it's

922
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 7: crazy out there. I mean, at the end of the day,

923
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 7: you know, saving money is good, but it's not you know,

924
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 7: worth your life to save you know, a thousand bucks

925
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Speaker 7: or whatever.

926
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Speaker 1: So, doctor Bruce Herman, if a woman walked into your

927
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: office today and said, you know what, I want to

928
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: have some ribs removed, you would tell her what.

929
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: I would tell her. Please Number one, I'm not going

930
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: to do it, and two please don't do it. You know,

931
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Speaker 4: I guess if.

932
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Speaker 7: Like she was insistent on doing something. I might refer

933
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Speaker 7: her to the one of the handful of actual legit

934
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Speaker 7: plastic surgeons that are doing the minimally invasive not removal,

935
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 7: but like you know, contouring or fracturing of the ribs.

936
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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't even do that. I mean, I just

937
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: I just think it's too risky.

938
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Speaker 7: I mean personally, so, I mean I guess maybe like

939
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 7: those those handfuls of certain the United States, I think

940
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 7: they're having pretty good results with it, but I don't know.

941
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 7: For this guy, it's too risky. I'm not looking to

942
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Speaker 7: like hurting my patients. I want everybody to like have

943
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 7: a good experience and come out okay.

944
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: On the other end, yeah, you're a guy that sticks

945
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: to the breast, the butt, and the nose, right, I mean,

946
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: you just you got you know, your menu is very short.

947
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: Bread and butter.

948
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: Man, the easy stuff, the stuff that's been shown.

949
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: To be safe. You know, I'm not here to take risks.

950
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I just you know, again, I just want

951
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 7: people to have a good experience and.

952
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: Not hav any bad outcomes. So I'm sticking to the

953
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: stuff that works.

954
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: And nip talk. Where can we find nip talk? Your

955
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: weekly show. Where is that?

956
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 7: So it's a video podcast that airs mostly on YouTube.

957
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: You can find us at NIP talk Show. It does

958
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 7: air on Facebook as well, and then the audio goes

959
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 7: out to the various audio podcast streaming services.

960
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: So up some of your listeners to come by.

961
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you talking about this week?

962
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 7: Well, actually I'm off this week because the studio is

963
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Speaker 7: closed because of the new year.

964
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: So well, last week, what did you do last week?

965
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a bad week.

966
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 7: Is we had Christmas bell on a bad day, so

967
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Speaker 7: our studio was closed book So I just I gave

968
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 7: my people a couple of weeks off. Last thing we

969
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: were talking about we were talking about Kate Winslet. She

970
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 7: was slamming anyone who wanted to get plastic surgery.

971
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: And I love Kate Winslet.

972
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 7: I saw Titanic three times in the in the theaters

973
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 7: when I was a young person.

974
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Speaker 4: But I had a little beef.

975
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 7: With her because she was like, she's kind of dogging

976
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 7: on people that wanted to get botox and.

977
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: Like simple stuff, and so.

978
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: We had to break that down.

979
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 7: But yeah, we talked about a lot of interesting topics,

980
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 7: including things like I actually we'll do a segment on

981
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 7: this rib rib reception thing, and that'll be what I'm

982
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 7: going to talk about for sure on the next episode.

983
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: Well, good gad, we gave you the idea, and Kate

984
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: winslet her boat always sink, so I wouldn't worry about

985
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: you about her.

986
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

987
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: Anyway, Doc, thanks for your time. Doctor Bruce Herman always

988
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: great having you on. You can find him at Breast

989
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: and Plasticsurgery dot com Breast and Plastic Surgery dot com.

990
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: All right, Happy New Year, Docs, stay.

991
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Speaker 4: Well, happen to you. Thank a lot. Take care.

992
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: You couldn't pay me enough money to have my ribs removed.

993
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: You know, people should just love people for the way

994
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: they are. Wouldn't that be a nice thing to happen

995
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six? Here I am, this is look

996
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: take care of myself the best way I can all.

997
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: What a world that would be? One twenty five it's

998
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: the average American in for the Great American News Radio

999
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W. It's good handwork on this bass.

1000
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Speaker 1: You're not playing a slap base here. He's just playing

1001
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: a bass. I'm guessing it's at you. I mean, Carol

1002
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: Kaye was a great base player, Welcome back seven hundred WLW.

1003
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: The average American in for the great American. On this

1004
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. We have Xavier basketball later on this afternoon.

1005
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: Connect ticket is at Xavier that will be at the

1006
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: Sintas Center, and that particular game we'll see a major

1007
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: task for the Musketeers as the number four Huskies are

1008
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: twelve and one. Savior comes into this game nine and four,

1009
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: and we will have that game for you right here

1010
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW Byron Larkin and Joe Sunderman with

1011
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: the call. There are other bowl games going on today,

1012
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: and there are things I guess that if you're a

1013
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: fan of college football and you don't mind seeing the

1014
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: teams that might not necessarily be all that good, well

1015
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: what the hell why not? And then, of course you've

1016
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: got the college football Playoff that begins our I guess

1017
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: in the case of the playoff itself continues. But tonight

1018
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: at the Cotton Bowl, it's Miami against the Ohio State

1019
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: buck Guys. Last we heard from the buck Eyes, they

1020
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: had just been slapped upside the head by Indiana in

1021
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game. They've had a lot of

1022
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: time off to think about this game. Tonight against Miami.

1023
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: And if you were listening yesterday or heard a young

1024
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Speaker 1: man by the name of Dan Hope from eleven Warriors

1025
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Speaker 1: dot com, he was one of my guests yesterday and

1026
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: was asking him about that time off. That's a long

1027
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: time to think about a loss. It's a good time,

1028
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: I suppose if you're trying to heal and get players

1029
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: who have had nagging injuries throughout the season healthy. But

1030
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: it is a long time and I'm wondering, as I

1031
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: wondered yesterday with Hope, exactly how the buck Eyes deal

1032
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: with this.

1033
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: Well.

1034
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Speaker 4: The good thing is for Ohio State, they've done this before.

1035
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 8: We saw it last year where they lose that game

1036
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 8: to Michigan, they have to sew on it for a

1037
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 8: month and then they go and have a fantastic four

1038
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 8: game run in the College football playoffs. So there's a

1039
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 8: lot of play on this year's team who were part

1040
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 8: of last year's team, who have been there.

1041
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: They know what it takes to bounce.

1042
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 8: Back from a loss, and they know what it takes

1043
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 8: to play their best football in the College Football playoffs.

1044
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 8: So I think that that's something that can really kind

1045
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 8: of guide them into this game and help them in

1046
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 8: terms of knowing what it takes to play their best

1047
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Speaker 8: football of.

1048
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: The season in the biggest games of the year now.

1049
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Speaker 8: At the same time, just because they did it last

1050
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: year doesn't if they're going to do it again and

1051
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 8: players are talking about that, you know, they have to

1052
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 8: work just as hard going into this game as they

1053
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 8: did going into those CFT games a year ago if

1054
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Speaker 8: they want to have the same results.

1055
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 4: But I think the fact that you know.

1056
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Speaker 8: Ryan Day and so many of these players have didn't

1057
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Speaker 8: prove out already last year, they have that experience of

1058
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 8: playing in a college ball playoff in winning a national championship.

1059
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Speaker 8: I think that's really valuable. It's something they can drop

1060
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Speaker 8: from going into this game.

1061
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Speaker 1: Day is going to take over the play calling on offense,

1062
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: largely because Brian Hartline has got one foot out the

1063
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Speaker 1: door to South Florida to become the next head coach,

1064
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: and although he's still coaching obviously on the staff, he's

1065
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: going to concentrate on wide receivers. They took over the

1066
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: play calling. Why is it because Heartline is literally moving

1067
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: on And was it a strategic thing on Dave's part?

1068
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: Did he not like the way the players are being

1069
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: college just fill in the blanks there a little bit.

1070
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he pretty much covered it.

1071
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Speaker 8: I think it's the fact that Brian Hartline is juggling

1072
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 8: two jobs right now, and I think that Ryan Day

1073
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 8: came to realize over the last couple of weeks that

1074
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Speaker 8: having an offensive coordinator, having someone leading the offensive game

1075
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Speaker 8: plan who is not a one hundred percent invested in

1076
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Speaker 8: Ohio State right now, was not the best move for

1077
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Speaker 8: Ohio State. And I don't say that to criticize Brian Hartline.

1078
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Speaker 8: It's just the reality of the situation that you know,

1079
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 8: he's going to be a head coach somewhere else. He

1080
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Speaker 8: has certain things he has to do for that job. Unfortunately,

1081
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Speaker 8: the way of a college football calendar is right now.

1082
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 8: I mean, I know I've read something and I think

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Speaker 8: it's like eight of the teams in a college ball

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Speaker 8: playoffs or something like that have a coordinator moving on.

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Speaker 8: So it's just the reality of a situation these days

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Speaker 8: that you know, with the timing of signing day and

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Speaker 8: a transfer portal and all that, you know, coaching hires

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Speaker 8: get made before the college football playoff and so you

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Speaker 8: have a lot of coaches who are finishing up a

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Speaker 8: job with one team while preparing to start a job

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Speaker 8: with a new team. And that's certainly the case of

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Speaker 8: Brian Hartline. But I think Ryan Day just kind of

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Speaker 8: came to realize, well, you know, because of what happened

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Speaker 8: in the Big Ten championship game, where you know, the

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Speaker 8: offense clearly had its worst performance of the year, coming

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Speaker 8: just three days after Brian Hartline was hired at USF.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was a coincidence.

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Speaker 8: And then I think, you know, realizing is they started

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Speaker 8: game planning for the cotton ball over the last couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks that you know, having someone who's splitting time

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Speaker 8: between two places lead the offensive game plan is probably

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Speaker 8: not the best way to go about it. And so

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Speaker 8: you know, and they ultimately decided that the best move

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Speaker 8: was for him to do it himself.

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Speaker 1: Stay at Hope. Who was with me yesterday on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WW from eleven Warriors dot com. We got bowl

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Speaker 1: games tonight. Of course that's the big one today. It's

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Speaker 1: the Reliaquest Bowl Iowa against Vanderbilt. Oh my be still

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Speaker 1: my beating heart on this one. This game is now

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Speaker 1: at the half, Iowa fourteen Vanderbilt three. Still to come.

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Speaker 1: The Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl. Yeah, out there and

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Speaker 1: they'll passo Texas, Arizona State against Duke, and then the

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Speaker 1: cheese at Citrus Bowl, three o'clock kick, Michigan against Texas,

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Speaker 1: the unbattled Michigan football team against Texas, and then tonight,

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Speaker 1: of course it's Miami and Ohio State. What's up with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. Bengals are counting down to the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, but do they have full focus on the

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Speaker 1: task at hand? With the Browns? Talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that next no Stooge report today, segs Off. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to fill in the blanks. Seven hundred w

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Speaker 1: WELW one fifty News Radio, seven hundred WLW, The average

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Speaker 1: American in for the Great American. Do you think there's

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Speaker 1: this Somali fraud problem up in Minnesota? How about the

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Speaker 1: Buckeye State. We may be on the verge of one

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Speaker 1: as well. We're going to get into that at two

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Speaker 1: oh six. Then down the road. How chocolate and coffee

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Speaker 1: can help your aging process? I don't mean accelerated, I

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Speaker 1: mean pushing off the aging process. New Year's Eve twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, great to have you with us. I want

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Speaker 1: to wish a happy birthday to a loyal listener here

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred W WELW young man up in Lima

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Speaker 1: by the name of Silas. Silas is a dedicated listener

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Speaker 1: to this radio station. We hear from Silas a lot.

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Speaker 1: He is thirteen years old today and we wish him

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Speaker 1: hot happy birthday here from seven hundred w wel that

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old, Silas, Your entire life is a blank

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Speaker 1: canvas at this point. Paint it wisely. The Bengals are

1138
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Speaker 1: getting ready to take on the Browns, and of course

1139
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: at pay Corpse Stadium one o'clock kick season finale for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. Our coverage begins at nine a m. From

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Speaker 1: the Holy Grail this particular Sunday morning. And does Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor just finished his news conference up here a few

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00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and he says he is absolutely no questions, none,

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Speaker 1: no questions about his team's energy.

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 9: All you spend great energy from our guys. Helpful that

1146
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 9: we've won the last two. I think to keep the

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Speaker 9: energy up at this point of year. But everybody's been great.

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Speaker 1: Got to deal with Shudor Sanders, who is not great

1149
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: but is playing better as the Browns have just played

1150
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: Merry Grounds with quarterbacks since they came back into the league.

1151
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: But Sanders is their guy now, is at least through

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Speaker 1: the end of this year, and then we'll see what happens.

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00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: And Taylor claims that he knew all about him when

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Speaker 1: he played at college. Well, who didn't. He played for

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Speaker 1: his dad and everybody was kind of eyeing his dad, Dion,

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Speaker 1: But Taylor at least knew who the guy was coming

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Speaker 1: out of college.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm never going to call myself a Colorado fan,

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 9: and I was watching their games, you know, as a

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Speaker 9: Nebraska guy, So you know, I thought that he did

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Speaker 9: a great job, you know, and collaboration with a lot

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Speaker 9: of other people that really did a great job at Colorado.

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Speaker 9: So then for him to come in the league and

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Speaker 9: as a rookie have success things really impressive. And so

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Speaker 9: again we've got a tough task in front of us,

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Speaker 9: and he's done a real good job, and he's got confidence,

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Speaker 9: he's he's obviously got a lot of reps in his

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Speaker 9: belt now and he's been a lot of plays for

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Speaker 9: these guys.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I had on Brian Diardo from CBS Sports last week

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Speaker 1: on my show and we were talking about the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty five and how much of a

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Speaker 1: bummer it was. And I asked him, is it too

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Speaker 1: is it too easy to say that this all fell

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Speaker 1: apart when Joe Burrow went down, because there were great

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Speaker 1: numbers put up by Joe Flacco in several games in

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Speaker 1: his absence. Here's the Ardo's thoughts on that. I think

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Speaker 1: it's somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 10: I think I think going in and I think what

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Speaker 10: you're alluding to is this was a fly team with

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Speaker 10: or without Burrow, and I wholeheartedly agree. I think for me,

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Speaker 10: the season was went downhill when Brown and Cake Brin

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Speaker 10: came in and he didn't provide them the adequate play

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Speaker 10: at backup quarterback that they needed, and you know one

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Speaker 10: and three and those starts that it was so bad

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Speaker 10: that they had to figure out a way to get

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Speaker 10: another quarterback and um announced everybody went and got Joe

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Speaker 10: flat though, and kind of a shocking, you know, mid

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Speaker 10: season trade, and to me, him not being ready to

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Speaker 10: come in and go. I think it was a surprise

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Speaker 10: to everybody. And he was four and three, as you

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Speaker 10: know and your listeners know, as a starter a few

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Speaker 10: years ago. When Burrow got hurt and there was no

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Speaker 10: reason to believe that he wouldn't be as effective this time.

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Speaker 10: And he was so bad that it compelled Zach Taylor

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Speaker 10: to bench him and try to save the season with

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Speaker 10: getting a forty year old quarterback. So, you know, to me,

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Speaker 10: him not being able to come in right away and

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Speaker 10: get a couple of wins, I mean we're talking.

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Speaker 4: If they have two more wins right now, they're still

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Speaker 4: in it with the Steelers.

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Speaker 10: Being where they are and the Ravens being where they are.

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Speaker 10: To me, that way there was to me where the

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Speaker 10: season ended.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in a lot of ways it did. I

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Speaker 1: mean you go back and you look, which I did.

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Speaker 1: So Flacco's first game here was the game against Green

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Speaker 1: Bay on October the twelfth, twenty nine to forty five,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty eight total yards in that game,

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Speaker 1: and it was obviously, you know, not a game that

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Speaker 1: I would consider the Bengals to be competitive in, but

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Speaker 1: at least showed that Flaco could come in here and

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Speaker 1: you know, give this team a pulse. And then Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy total yards against the Steelers, four

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards against the Steelers right week seven,

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Speaker 1: Ingles thirty three Steelers thirty one McPherson's fueld goal with

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Speaker 1: seven seconds to go. The two games that just absolutely

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Speaker 1: submarine this team were, of course, the home losses to

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Speaker 1: the Jets and to the Bears. You give up two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four rushing yards to the Jets. The

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Speaker 1: Jets haven't shown that kind of pulse at any game

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Speaker 1: before that, and after five hundred and two total yards

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Speaker 1: Chicago the next week, thirty seven rushes, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty three on the ground, five hundred and seventy six

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Speaker 1: total yards on the ground. You allow Caleb Williams to

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Speaker 1: throw for four touchdown passes in both of those games,

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Speaker 1: a grand total of two sacks from that Bengals defense. Now,

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Speaker 1: the season really didn't go under when Burrow got hurt,

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Speaker 1: but you had those Jets and a Chicago win. To

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Speaker 1: what was at stake when Burrow came back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who knows what the story is. The defense is what

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Speaker 1: submarine this team this year, and as well as it

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Speaker 1: seemingly has played the last three weeks, it needs major work.

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Speaker 1: That's the eyeball test. I've been watching this stuff for

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Speaker 1: over forty years here for over forty years, almost fifty years.

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Speaker 1: That's the eyeball tenp. They're not good enough. They don't

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Speaker 1: tackle well enough, and they certainly don't cover well enough,

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Speaker 1: and they certainly don't rush the quarterback well enough. That's

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Speaker 1: job one in the off season. It is coming up

1241
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Speaker 1: on one to fifty seven news Radio seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: Welcome back at happen in a year I grew the

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Speaker 1: average American in for the great American here on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Thank you for tuning us in today too.

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Speaker 1: As you get ready to do whatever you do tonight.

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: You know, I going out and getting crazy those days

1247
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: I have left in my wake, and I since most

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Speaker 1: of you have done that too. We're just I think

1249
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: pot people just want to stick close to home anymore.

1250
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: You maybe go have dinner, maybe come home. You can

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Speaker 1: stay up long enough, watch the ball drop and then

1252
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Speaker 1: hit the sack for sleep or whatever. Anyway, Happy New

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Speaker 1: Year to you and your family. The fraud scheme that's

1254
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota, I think you should know about

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: that by now. It is centering around a Somalian population

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Speaker 1: that is the largest of any state in America. Right now.

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Speaker 1: Eighty two of the ninety two defendants charged are Somalian Americans. Now,

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Speaker 1: this center's around daycare centers or in one case, a

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Speaker 1: leering center. How in the hell do you put up

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Speaker 1: a sign over a daycare center that says leering center. Event,

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Speaker 1: it's a scam to get federal money siphoned to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: for alleged daycare centers. And right now that alleged money

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Speaker 1: is somewhere around eighteen billion with a B dollars, the

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Speaker 1: alleged money that's been scammed by the Somalian run daycare centers.

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Speaker 1: In Ohio. We have the second largest Somalian population of

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Speaker 1: any state in America. Most of the Somalis that are

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Speaker 1: here in this country, legal and otherwise have settled in

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Speaker 1: central Ohio. And someone, I guess it was the Columbus Dispatch.

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Speaker 1: They're not really doing a very good job on this story.

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Speaker 1: By the way, ask the governor about you know, well

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Speaker 1: what about you know these daycare centers here in Ohio?

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Speaker 1: Is is everything okay? And you know the governor said,

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, this is this has been

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01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: going on for a long time. We know that that

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Speaker 1: this is going on. We're on it, and we crack

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Speaker 1: down on it every time it pops it pops up,

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Speaker 1: and I guess maybe the Dispatch was satisfied with that answer,

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: but I'm not because it almost sounds dismissive on the

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Speaker 1: part of the current governor of Ohio. So I wanted

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Speaker 1: to find out exactly what's going on in the state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio from a guy that I have on my

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Speaker 1: show a lot who totally listen, totally up fun about this.

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: Jim er Dacey ran against Mike DeWine and lost, tried

1284
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Speaker 1: to primary Diwine in the Republican primary, and REDEESI lost.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has any ill ill will towards

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: the governor, but he does have a differing opinion on

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Speaker 1: what's going on in Minnesota and how it relates to

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Speaker 1: you and to me here in Ohio. So let's bring

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Speaker 1: him on in. Jim er Dacy, how are you on

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Speaker 1: this glorious New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 5: I am doing great, Ken, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? And uh, look, fraud is fraud. Let's

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Speaker 1: extract Somalia out of this just for a moment. Fraud

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Speaker 1: is fraud. And if somebody is stealing tax dollars from

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Speaker 1: people who pay into the tax system, that should be

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Speaker 1: an absolute red flag for every single person in this country,

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Speaker 1: but in particular the people that serve this country in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: So why I have so many of your former Democrat

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Speaker 1: colleagues not looked at this and said, wait a minute,

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: this is fraud. They don't seem to be very interested

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Speaker 1: in any of this, do they.

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Speaker 5: Well, I got to tell you for your exactly right,

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 5: fraud is fraud, and whether it's Democrats or Republicans, Americans

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 5: should be looking at this across the board, across the states.

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 5: I would never tell you that there's enough fraud to

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 5: reduce the deficit, but I would tell you there's enough

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 5: fraud out there that if it was extracted, we could

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 5: be doing a lot better with our debts and deficits,

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01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 5: especially when it comes to medicate fraud, because people have

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 5: to realize that, for instance, in Ohio, whatever the state

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01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 5: of Ohio spends, the federal government reimburses over ninety percent

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Speaker 5: to the state. So there's a gimmick going around the

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Speaker 5: entire country, which I did try and fight when I

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 5: was in Washington, which there's no reason to cut medicaid spending,

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01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 5: for instance in the state of Ohio when ninety percent

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 5: of it and plus when some of the states are

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: very similar get totally reimbursed by the federal government, which

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 5: becomes a real problem when the federal governments just fishing

1319
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 5: out dollars and states are taking those dollars and not

1320
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 5: really being careful with them because they know that the

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Speaker 5: majority of those dollars are reimbursed by the federal government.

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Speaker 1: The majority of Somalians that have landed in the United States,

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: legal or otherwise are in the state of Minnesota and

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Speaker 1: in the Minneapolis metropolitan area. The second largest group are

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. Some say thirty thousand, others say it might

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Speaker 1: be twice that, but nevertheless, here they are. And you

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: just mentioned you tried to fight this in Washington, DC,

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: and I mean, here's your good buddy, Mike de Wine.

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: His office said that the attempts to the fraud publicly

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: funded daycare are not new and that the state has

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: had safeguards up for a very long time. Do you

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: believe that?

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 5: Well, look, I ran against Mike DeWine because I don't

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 5: believe a lot of things he says, and I'm willing

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 5: to say that. But let's face it, over, I just

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 5: saw a report today over forty daycare centers in Columbus

1337
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 5: Ohio all opened under the same defunct shell organizations from

1338
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 5: all the Educational Resource Center began operating the exact same

1339
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 5: day with combined earnings of fourteen million dollars in twenty

1340
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,440
Speaker 5: twenty four a loan. So we have the same situation

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 5: occurring here in Ohio, and we do have medicaid fraud

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 5: throughout Ohio as well. That has been found by our

1343
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 5: honor has brought it to the attention of many people,

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01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 5: and some people have been prosecuted, some haven't been. Let's

1345
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 5: face it, It's one of the reasons why I say

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01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 5: be careful when you point the finger at Minnesota, because

1347
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 5: one of those fingers might be pointing right back at

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Speaker 5: Ohio at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, it almost seemed like a brush

1350
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: off what his office told. I guess it was the

1351
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Columbus Dispatch. And then the Dispatch shose the weakest form

1352
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: of journalism to look into this story. They went running

1353
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: to one of those alleged daycare centers in Columbus and said, oh, no,

1354
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: everything's good here. Everything's good here, so there must not

1355
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: be anything going on, rather than actually trying to dig

1356
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: into the story and see, well, okay, well what about

1357
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: this place or that place, or the overall medicaid fraud

1358
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: that may be going on here in the state of

1359
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: Ohio kind of you know, if somebody that spent their life,

1360
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: the majority of their life in television journalism, it just

1361
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of hacks me off. The lack of journalistic curiosity

1362
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: here with this story.

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Speaker 5: Well, kay, and here's what's really interesting. An individual up

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 5: in Wadsworth, Ohio that actually has three or four daycare centers,

1365
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 5: got in the car and drove down because of his

1366
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 5: frustration of how difficult it was to operate his daycare centers.

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Speaker 5: And he told me today that he visited five of

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Speaker 5: these Somali daycare centers. Four of them were absolutely nobody there,

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Speaker 5: totally dark, and the fifth one that he visited, he

1370
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 5: was actually afraid for his life because a guy came

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 5: out and said what are you doing here? And he said,

1372
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 5: you know a what he goes, You're trespassing and he said, nope,

1373
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 5: I'm not trespassing because I'm leaving. But he felt very

1374
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 5: uncomfortable that after visiting just five locations in Ohio in

1375
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 5: these Somali daycares, but four of them were dark, and

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: one of them, although it wasn't dark was not providing

1377
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 5: daycare was providing he said it. Look there was something

1378
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: else going on in the building. But that just shows

1379
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 5: you that you're exactly right. We need to have a

1380
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 5: thorough investigation of this, and I think we're going to

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 5: find the same thing. It's just a lack of oversight

1382
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 5: from our government officials, which leads to deficit spending, medicaid

1383
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 5: waste and fraud and things that could be corrected if

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01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 5: we just were a little bit more diligent on oversight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reading right here. According to some estimates, Somali

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: scammers have taken more money from taxpayers in the last

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: few years than the entire gross domestic product of Somalia

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01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: the country. I mean, it's staggering. It's roughly eighteen billion

1389
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: that's in play up in Minnesota, and half of that

1390
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 1: is a number that adds up to the total federal

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: funds provided by that FEDS two Minnesota since twenty eighteen

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: for all of federal run services in Minnesota. Look, I

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01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: would never suggest this to any other politician than perhaps you,

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: but it seems to me if you have in Minnesota

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: a very large Somali population there and it's you're running

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: for political offense, either for the mayor of Minnesota or

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: for the seat that elon Omar has. If you start

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: sticking your nose into something like this, it's going to

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: cost you votes. And if that costs your votes, that

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01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: cost you the election. How much of this do you

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01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: think is just politically driven? That Tim Walls and the

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: mayor Fry I believe his name is of Minneapolis, and

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01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: certainly elon Omar, they don't want to stick their nose

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: into something like this because if they do, that costs

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: them votes and they're out of office. That couldn't possibly happen,

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: could it?

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 5: Well? You know, and I know that votes are the

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 5: main thing. It's one of the reasons why nobody wants

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 5: to look at Medicare. Nobody wants to look at Medicaid,

1410
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 5: nobody wants to look at social security fraud. And you

1411
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: start looking at all these programs and benefits and you

1412
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 5: start digging into the fraud, you're going to find things.

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 5: You know. I was on the Medicare Medicare Subscommittee. I

1414
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 5: was on the Social Security subcommittee. There was ongoing fraud

1415
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 5: investigations all around the country. And these are things that

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 5: do cost people votes. There's no doubt about it. Just

1417
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 5: like you said, if it's your district and there's a

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01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 5: lot of that population and you're worried about getting reelected,

1419
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 5: absolutely you're going to ignore it as long as you can. Sure.

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: And the first thing they're going to say is you're

1421
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: a racist. You know you must be a racist if

1422
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: you're looking to the No, I'm looking for my money.

1423
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, you write me a check and give me

1424
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: my money back. You can go about your business any

1425
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: way you want. But I you know, I think is

1426
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: this gets gets rolling and despite the best efforts of ABC, NBCCBS,

1427
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: and it will because I think you're going to finally

1428
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: get some action in Washington, d C. That may be

1429
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: a rallying point for the GOP in twenty twenty six.

1430
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: I think when you turn rocks over on all of

1431
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: these places, you're going to be surprised of what you

1432
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: find in terms of fraud. Now you might have served

1433
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: with this guy. I don't know, Jim. I didn't look

1434
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: at the lap over on your tenure there. But the

1435
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: House majority with Tom Emmer from Minnesota, now's yelling and

1436
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: screaming and calling for the denaturalization and deportation of Somali's

1437
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: in Minnesota who defrauded taxpayers. Well, okay, I think that's

1438
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,959
Speaker 1: a step maybe after you actually get to who shepherd

1439
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: the fraud and who knew about it and didn't do

1440
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: anything about it. It's one thing to say that's what

1441
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: we're going to do, but I think you got to

1442
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: get to that first step, don't you.

1443
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 5: Well, absolutely, And I did serve with Tom Emmer. He's

1444
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 5: a good friend of mine. And you know, look those

1445
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 5: are such face. That's a political claim he's making. It's

1446
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 5: a great political claim and it's a great rally cry.

1447
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 5: But you're exactly right. We've got to start looking at

1448
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 5: these states. It's the same. And I use Ohio only

1449
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: because I know Ohio. If Ohio was not getting anything

1450
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 5: reimbursed from the federal government, zero reimbursement, they'd be very

1451
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: careful on how much they're spending in the medicaid program.

1452
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 5: And one of the things every state we should be

1453
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 5: looking at is how do we how do we make

1454
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 5: the states more accountable when it comes to Medicaid. The

1455
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 5: best way, of course, is to eliminate their federal match.

1456
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 5: And you know, you want to fix a state like Minnesota,

1457
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 5: just say okay, we're going to eliminate your federal match.

1458
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 5: But you got to remember, you just can't pick on Minnesota.

1459
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 5: And that's what I keep trying to tell people. You

1460
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 5: can look at Minnesota and as a Republican administration, the

1461
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 5: Republican president, we could say we're going to go after

1462
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 5: Minnesota until it becomes a problem in Ohio, whether it's

1463
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 5: a Republican administration. So if you're going to do this,

1464
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 5: you got to do it across the board.

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what to get you into a you know,

1466
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: another public urinating contest with the wine. But he doesn't

1467
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: seem interested in it. I mean just by his statement

1468
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: and the statement that came out of his office up there,

1469
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, this isn't now, We're on it.

1470
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: We've got our antenna. It doesn't seem like he has

1471
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: an appetite to take this thing on. Does it seem

1472
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,879
Speaker 1: that way to you.

1473
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 5: Well, look, it's a controversial issue. He should be on

1474
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 5: top of it. No, he's not going to worry about it.

1475
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 5: And it's one of the reasons Iran against him. And

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 5: again it's but I've said this time and time again,

1477
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 5: our state has not gotten any better in the six

1478
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 5: years he's been governor. In fact, we've fallen behind in

1479
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 5: a lot of places. And this is another issue. In fact,

1480
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 5: he's increased medicaid funding across the state. He has added

1481
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 5: to the medicaid debacle that we have in our state,

1482
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 5: which means, you know, if you assume that medicaid has five,

1483
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 5: ten percent, whatever the number is fraud. Governor Gwin has

1484
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 5: increase the amount that Ohio spends in Medicaid, which means

1485
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 5: he's probably in avertly increase the amount of fraud as well,

1486
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 5: just because whenever there's money rolling into the state, there's

1487
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 5: going to be a percentage that's fraudulent.

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01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: Where do you see this thing going, Jim, Not just

1489
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: here in Ohio, but you know across the country. It's

1490
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota right now, it's the holiday season. It probably isn't

1491
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 1: getting a lot of attention from the general public just yet,

1492
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: but you know January and the cold months of winter's

1493
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: still await when people are in front of television sets

1494
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Where do you think this goes and how

1495
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: quickly do you think it goes? Knowing it's an election

1496
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: year coming up.

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01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 5: Well, because it's Tim Walton, because it's a Democrat state,

1498
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 5: I think you're going to see President Trump and many

1499
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 5: in the administration going after Minnesota. At the same time,

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 5: as I said all along, I think it's going to

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 5: backside and hit Ohio as well. Because you said this

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Speaker 5: and I agree. The second greatest population of Somolians is

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Speaker 5: in Ohio. So we're going to get that backlash in Ohio.

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Speaker 5: And I think in the end, it's just going to

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Speaker 5: make people more unhappy with our political system and our

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Speaker 5: politicians and our elected officials. And we've got a November

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Speaker 5: election coming up. If you start to play the cards,

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Speaker 5: eventually people are going to say, I just want to

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Speaker 5: get everybody out of there that's in office. We saw

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Speaker 5: that before. The sad thing is we have a majority

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Speaker 5: of Republicans right now, but they will pay the price

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Speaker 5: if that's the attitude of voters come November twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Jim, And what I say happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: I mean happy and healthy and safe and you and

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Speaker 1: I will visit in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Thanks same to you and all your listeners. Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: So there's a conservative lawyer and a Republican strategist named

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Speaker 1: mahet Cook, and Maheck Cook told Fox News earlier this

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Speaker 1: month that Minnesota just the tip of the spear, and

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Speaker 1: many Somalians in Columbus are great people, law abiding citizens

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Speaker 1: who came here legally, he went on to say. She

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01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 1: went on to say, the problem today is not the community,

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Speaker 1: it's actually the criminals within the community. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: whether it's Somalians or pick another country, people from Ireland, Italy, Canada, Mexico, China, Ubekistan.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Fraud is fraud, and they're taking our money.

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Speaker 1: And if that doesn't get you lit underneath the butt,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what will tax money taken from US Congress.

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Speaker 1: Better get quick on this seven hundred WLWT.

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Speaker 4: Two thirty six.

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred at WLW welcome on it final

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Speaker 1: half hour festivities. It will be Jason Williams and Dan

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01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: Carroll after the news at the top of the hours.

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Speaker 1: Take it straight straight till Xavier basketball Xavier and connect

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Speaker 1: Ticket four thirty year Time five o'clock tip on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLWT. To build off the Jim Ornacy interview. It's

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Speaker 1: awfully interesting to me that the exposure of fraud by

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Speaker 1: Somalians in Minnesota has happened by citizen journalists and independent journalists,

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Speaker 1: and that those working for major media outlets have either

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01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: completely ignored the story for whatever reasons, maybe political ideology

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01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: or maybe because they were too stupid to find out

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Speaker 1: that there was something going on. Who knows. Journalistic curiosity

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: in this country is dead. But it was these citizens

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Speaker 1: journalists and these independent journalists that have uncovered these things.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just in Minnesota's it's apparently across major

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Speaker 1: major cities in Maine, Pennsylvania, Washington State and right here

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01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: as we just talked about with Reneesi in Ohio. So

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01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,520
Speaker 1: he's right in the sense that, Okay, make a campaign

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Speaker 1: issue out of that. Bang on Tim Walls, and Tim

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01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: Walls is Elmer Fudd with dancing hands. Bang on him

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: all you want, but it may come home to haunt

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01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: in some of these states that have Republican governors as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. But it's you know, it's

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Speaker 1: your money, and it's my money. It's federal money. That's

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01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: what I would be screaming if I was on the

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Speaker 1: radio in Minnesota. This is our money. This is why

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: every April fifteenth we have to pay federal income tax.

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01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: We work hard for the money. As the song once

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01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: went ESPN reporting that there is yet another New England

1559
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: Patriots player that has been arrested on assault and battery charges.

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: This time it is Christian Barmore. Now, apparently this incident

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: stemmed from August the eighth, all the way back then,

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01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: but it has only been since December sixteenth that it

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: wound up in front of the police, and Christian Barmore

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: is scheduled to be arraigned in a Massachusetts courtroom on

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Speaker 1: February third. This on the heels of what Stephan Diggs

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01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: has been accused of doing. So not so many fun

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: and games off the field for the New England Patriots

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01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: as they are going through an historically successful season on

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01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: the field and in college football right now. And I

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: want to make sure I get this right, because you know,

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01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: these bowl games anymore, they're not just this is the

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Speaker 1: Relyoquest Bowl. I'm sure that there was just a large

1573
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: appetite to see the Relioquest Bowl. End of the third quarter,

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: Iowa twenty four Vanderbilt seventeen. Still to come tonight, A

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01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:10,919
Speaker 1: couple of more of these ballgames, Arizona State, Duke, Michigan, Texas,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Ohio State Miami in the playoff

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Speaker 1: seven thirty tonight in the cotton Bowl. Do you like

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01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: dark chocolate and coffee? Well, those are two of my obsessions.

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: And apparently this is a good obsession I have because

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01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: dark chocolate and coffee not necessarily consumed together. But dark

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: chocolate and coffee have been linked to a reduction in

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Speaker 1: cell leader aging. Cell leader aging. Who doesn't want their

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01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: cells to slow down a little bit, so we don't

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01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: all get old Cragley and die. Well, we're all going

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Speaker 1: to die, but I mean ahead a schedule. People with

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01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: higher blood levels of something called theobromine seem to have

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Speaker 1: slowed cell lead aging, and this is a result of

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01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: a study that was done hon a significant group of

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Speaker 1: people over in the UK. Healthy living, we know, may

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01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: not make it a last longer, but it will make

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: you last healthier. And you want to stay healthy, right.

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 1: You don't want to be somebody that's just chair bound

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: or bedbound or whatever it may be in the final

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01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: five or ten years of your life. You want to

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: be you want to be young, You want to be vibrant.

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Speaker 1: At least that's what Paul Fulford tells me. He is

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Speaker 1: a healthy living expert. He is with Sinoshore or maybe

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: it's sino Shure. I'm not sure which way it is pronounced,

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: but Sinoshure Sinoshore Electronics, which is a leader in the

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Speaker 1: field of medical treatment systems. And he's another guy that says, look,

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: there could be something to this chocolate coffee thing. And

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Speaker 1: anybody that carves out time to be with us on

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: this New Year's Eve we appreciate, and we appreciate. Paul Fulford,

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01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: how are you on this New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing wonderful. How are you doing, Ken.

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01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Is it Sinoshure or Sinoshore?

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Speaker 4: It is sino Shure Electronic.

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Speaker 11: And I also have a podcast called Optimized Outcomes where

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 11: we discuss all kinds of topics like this, healthy living,

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 11: anti aging, biohacking, health wellness, mental, physical performance, all pushing

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Speaker 11: the outcomes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, what is bio hacking?

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Speaker 11: By the way, Basically, if you think about it in

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01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 11: terms of like a computer, where you're hacking a computer software,

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 11: the body has an operating system, right, And everything that

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01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 11: we have when we look at our biomarkers is in essence,

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01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 11: you know something that we can hack, and it's something

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Speaker 11: that you know is signaling right, So and what we're

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01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 11: talking about sort of in this topic is different signaling,

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Speaker 11: like with with what coffee and dark chocolate can do,

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01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 11: and if we can interrupt that signaling. You know, for

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01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 11: some reason, sometimes our DNA as we get older decides

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Speaker 11: not to repair itself as it did when we were

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Speaker 11: in our twenties and thirties. Right, So if we can

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01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 11: hack that and send the proper signaling to you, so

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 11: then we can actually, you know, forty forty is now

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01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 11: the new sixty.

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Speaker 4: Basically you can you can fliplop it. Well, excuse me,

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01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 4: sixty is the new forty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ninety is the new seventy. It's just it's

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01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: all about aging. It's all about cellular aging. And I'm

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01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:23,839
Speaker 1: reading here dark chocolate or coffee both can reduce celluator aging. Okay,

1633
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: so explain that I like chocolate, I like coffee. Do

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,520
Speaker 1: I eat more of those things and reduce my cellutor

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: aging and therefore all live to be one hundred and forty.

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Speaker 4: I love where your head is that ken? So the

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01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: headlight is fun.

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Speaker 11: You know, the science is interesting, but if you know,

1639
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 11: we've got to keep it honest here, right, there's a

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01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 11: there's a new study that the doubts. That shows that

1641
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 11: there's an association, not proof that that chocolate is a

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01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 11: thought of youth. And what it does suggest is people

1643
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 11: with higher levels of the compound called field bromine tend

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 11: to show signs of slower biological age.

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 4: I'm certain at the genetic clocks.

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Okay. So the study that was done, I guess research

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: was done in the UK. They had participants in two groups.

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01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: There were like five hundred women in one group and

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Speaker 1: eleven hundred and fifty men and women in another group.

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Speaker 1: Both had the average age of sixty. So they started

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01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: with that baseline, and then of course they they jimmy

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: the test so that one would get these I guess

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01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: THEO one of the theobromines that would that would increase

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: the likelihood of cellular aging being put on slow and

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01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: others did not. What are we to make of that?

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Is it a big enough test to say, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to, you know, maybe increase my intake in chocolate,

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01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 1: increase my incake and coffee, or at the very least

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Speaker 1: make it part of what I do on a diet basis,

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Speaker 1: on a weekly or monthly level, that I can continue

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Speaker 1: getting those particular things into my bloodstream and into my body.

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Speaker 1: What are we to make of this test?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean if you look at that one that

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Speaker 11: we're talking about, and like, there's other ones we can

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Speaker 11: point to. But there were two big groups of people

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Speaker 11: right mostly around sixty one cool heart was the Twins

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Speaker 11: UK with about five hundred and nine women, and the

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Speaker 11: other one was the Cora cool Heart in Germany.

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Speaker 4: That had eleven hundred and sixty men and women.

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Speaker 11: And they measured the theobromine in the blood using different tests,

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Speaker 11: and they looked at the DNA methylation patterns that ran

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Speaker 11: the epigenetic clock models and so in playing English, they

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Speaker 11: looked at chemical tags on DNA that shift when age

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Speaker 11: can be used to estimate biological aging.

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Speaker 1: This so I was just gonna say, but this this alkaloid,

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Speaker 1: this theobromine, theobromine, I'm glad to believe that's more of

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Speaker 1: something that's in chocolate then it is in coffee or tea.

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01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: In other words, if somebody's listening to this and they're

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Speaker 1: thinking at oh, chocolate, yeah, it's going to slow down

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01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: the aging, or coffee it's going to slow down my aging.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they start downing triple shot lattes four

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01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: or five times a day. Their heart's going to explode.

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01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: So I guess what are we talking about moderation here, Paul?

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Speaker 4: So you know, you don't, You're You're exactly right.

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Speaker 11: They don't need to start pounding expressos or eating bricks

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01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 11: of dark chocolate tonight, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you if you do that, you're.

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Speaker 11: Gonna feel young for about forty five minutes.

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01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 4: Then you're gonna die. Then your your heart rate at

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01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 4: two am is going to be serious.

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Speaker 11: Right, So the study does not tell us you know this,

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Speaker 11: you know, in the studies don't tell us how much

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01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,520
Speaker 11: chocolate or coffee to consume. It didn't even really reliably

1694
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 11: track coffee intaking a peru tice way. It looked at

1695
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Speaker 11: the biomarker in the blood one point at a time.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 11: So that's the big limitation with this stuff. And again

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01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 11: that's why in the in the beginning we were talking

1699
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 11: about them. It looks like something that you want to

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01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 11: you know, implement, but it's there's not like a lot

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01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:16,919
Speaker 11: of clinical evidence showing there's there's associations not you know, basically,

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 11: this is not a prescription for something, so to speak.

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01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Right, No, exactly exactly and I think with a lot

1704
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: of these things that pop up from time to time

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01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: on poll pop culture, that's the way they should be

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01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: taken as things that, look, this can do your body

1707
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: some good, but anything in excess can do your body harm.

1708
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: And so keep that in the back of your mind.

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01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people tonight, right now, today,

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Speaker 1: probably for the last few days, that have been thinking about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how can I live healthier in twenty twenty six? And

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Speaker 1: you know, the normal things come to the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. Get some sleep, go to the gym, even

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Speaker 1: if you just go out for a walk every day

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Speaker 1: is going to help you in some way, shape or

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Speaker 1: form make you feel healthier. But what about eating? Because

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Speaker 1: you can't run away from a bad diet. We can

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Speaker 1: talk all we want about exercising, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be You're not going to be able to exercise your

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Speaker 1: way out of a bad diet. What should people be

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Speaker 1: thinking about tonight today, whatever it may be, about living

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Speaker 1: healthier in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's a great question, and it is you know,

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Speaker 11: right on time as far as what time of year

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Speaker 11: we're in, and it is it is.

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Speaker 4: You know, I talk about this a lot.

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Speaker 11: You know, like we talked about with the things that

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Speaker 11: I do, and uh, there's a couple of different things

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Speaker 11: I find myself going to run. You know, we were

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Speaker 11: talking about biohacking earlier, and it's in the tech world.

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Speaker 11: It's it's garbage and garbage out. If you have bad inputs,

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Speaker 11: you're going to have bad outputs, right, So if you're

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Speaker 11: if you're eating, you know, I don't care what side

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Speaker 11: of the aisle somebody falls on. Make America Healthy Again

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01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 11: as an importing initiative, and we're looking at a lot

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Speaker 11: of the things with the food supply when it as

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Speaker 11: it relates to how somebody should be eating. There's kind

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Speaker 11: of like a rule of thumb where it's like ninety

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Speaker 11: thirty fifty, where it's ninety grams of protein, thirty grams

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Speaker 11: of healthy fats, and fifty grams of nutrient dent. You know,

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Speaker 11: carbs are in your whole foods, right, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Also calories in calories out right.

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Speaker 11: You've got a lot of things out now with GLP

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Speaker 11: ones and those are a big buzzword with people losing weight,

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Speaker 11: which you've got to mitigate those. There's actually a lot

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Speaker 11: there's been a study and it's now a Netflix show

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Speaker 11: called Blue Zones, and they look into these centurions and

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Speaker 11: in these different pockets of the world where people live

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Speaker 11: the longest, and they have three basic things in common.

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Speaker 5: One they have.

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01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,879
Speaker 11: They eat nutrient dense whole foods, right, no garbage, nutrient

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Speaker 11: dense whole foods. They have regular levels of activity, and

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Speaker 11: that can just mean not necessarily hardcore working out. It

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01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 11: could be regularly walking, they're performing pasts on a regular basis,

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Speaker 11: they're taking stairs, they're not taking elevators, They're doing all

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Speaker 11: these regular things. And then the third thing is having

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Speaker 11: a sense of community, having emotional connections. Those three things

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Speaker 11: people that live the longest in the world have. And

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Speaker 11: if there's two areas that people can look at and

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Speaker 11: dial in for longevity, it's making sure that gut health

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Speaker 11: is down in and that they have some muscle that

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Speaker 11: they're working on building muscles. Those are your two biggest

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Speaker 11: markers for identifying longevity.

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Speaker 1: What are nutrient dense foods? You said nutrient dense foods.

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Speaker 1: I think before when you were breaking it down, it

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Speaker 1: was protein, and then I think you said something with

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Speaker 1: regards to dense carbohydrates. If I'm not mistaken, what do

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Speaker 1: you know about those things.

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Speaker 11: So when I say that, I mean like if you

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Speaker 11: think about like a Mediterranean diet, right, you look at

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Speaker 11: eating the rainbow as far as the vegetables can be concerned, right,

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Speaker 11: you want things that are Again, again, it's more expensive

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Speaker 11: beat this way. And I think that's why the food

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Speaker 11: supply piece is a great thing, because if we can

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Speaker 11: find ways to make food better, healthier and more accessible,

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Speaker 11: that's better.

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Speaker 5: But you want to eat.

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Speaker 11: Your complex carbs, right, you want to eat things that

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Speaker 11: are You're better off eating a sweet potato versus a

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Speaker 11: white potato.

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Speaker 4: There's as far as nutrient dnse.

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Speaker 11: Whole foods, there's a lot of things where like if

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Speaker 11: you go to Costco, it's like practical examples. They have

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Speaker 11: these jackfruit chips where they are something that you can

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Speaker 11: have that's crunchy, something that has a lot of very

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Speaker 11: minimal colork intake with a lot of nutrient dense aspects

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Speaker 11: to it.

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Speaker 4: So there's a wide range of nutrient dnse whole foods

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Speaker 4: that we can eat. Right.

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Speaker 11: That also, eating those things fills you up longer, Especially

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Speaker 11: protein definitely fills you up longer.

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Speaker 4: And when you're eating.

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Speaker 11: Foods, it also requires you to consume energy and calorie

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Speaker 11: is to process those foods, right. So nutrient dent is

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Speaker 11: kind of a broad word that speaks to eating basically

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Speaker 11: whole organic fruits and vegetables that are consuming and filling

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Speaker 11: that will provide that either carb to carb the sugar conversion,

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Speaker 11: and again, getting your sugar from fruits is a lot

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Speaker 11: better way to get your sugars versus drinking sugar in

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Speaker 11: your coffee, right, because that's what our body uses for energy.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean all of that makes sense. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that makes sense to me, and it was told

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Speaker 1: to me many many years ago. And every time I

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Speaker 1: walk into a Kroger, which is a major grocery chain

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Speaker 1: here in Ohio and Kentucky, I walk in there and

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Speaker 1: I was told shop the perimeter of the store because invaribly,

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Speaker 1: that's where the healthiest foods are. And then as you

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Speaker 1: get into the aisles, you get into the things that

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Speaker 1: if you actually read the label, some of those things

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Speaker 1: would absolutely shot as to what's in those foods. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't understand what's on the label of something

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Speaker 1: you're buying, it probably shouldn't buy it. But the is

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Speaker 1: the store is where the healthiest foods.

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Speaker 11: Are you know ken that's that did one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: I've said that same statement many times, right, And then

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Speaker 11: when you are in the aisles, you one hundred percent

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Speaker 11: have to look at the labeling because if it's something

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Speaker 11: you can't pronounce, you shouldn't need it. Right, And there's

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Speaker 11: a big push now with again because and it has

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Speaker 11: to do like you look at the marketing for the

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Speaker 11: companies and I'm not knocking their hustle.

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Speaker 4: They have to move product, but they switch. Right. It

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Speaker 4: was for the longest time it was low fat, no fat.

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Speaker 4: Then now then there was the gluten free push. Now

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Speaker 4: it's high protein.

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Speaker 11: There's protein in everything because of the need for protein

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Speaker 11: with people on these glp ones and everything else. So

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Speaker 11: the sourcing of the materials and if you can't pronounce it,

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Speaker 11: I mean, the fewer the ingredients, the better you one

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Speaker 11: hundred sending me out it with shop the perimeter and

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Speaker 11: when you go into the aisles, you've got to read

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Speaker 11: the labels and have your phone so that you can

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Speaker 11: look it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got Paul Fulford Sino shore Elutronics. Sino Shore

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Speaker 1: Leutronic is where you can find him. And again the

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01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: name of your podcast that has all that great stuff

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01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: that you were talking about. Where do people what's the

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Speaker 1: name of it, Where do people find it?

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Speaker 11: It's called Optimized Outcomes and it's on Spotify, Apple Music,

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Speaker 11: and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: As they say, all platforms. Paul, good stuff. Happy new

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Speaker 1: Year to you, Happy healthy new year to you. I

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Speaker 1: sense I don't have to say that, but in any

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Speaker 1: event I will. Happy healthy new year to you, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time today. We appreciate it you

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Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, Kenn you. Yeah. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: run out tonight, have the biggest piece of chocolate cake

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Speaker 1: I can find and wash it down with a I'll

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Speaker 1: make it a decaf, you know. Got to get to

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Speaker 1: sleep at some point two fifty four on this New

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