1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I have people tweeting me, well, Jack Hughes never plays 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a full season. Jack Ughs never had one hundred points. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Jack Hughes is Jack us nat. When it comes to 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: being popular, none of those things matter. He just went 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: over a million Instagram followers. That matters, That sells. That's 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: the problem with sports, though, in hockey in particular, everyone 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: wants to crunch the numbers, and the numbers have very 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: little to do with being popular. Yeah, you gotta be good. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: You don't think he's good. He was on the US 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Olympic team, he scored the golden goal. He's a good 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: enough player. Thirty six points in thirty six games this year, 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: almost the point per game on his career forty three 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: goals in ninety nine points three seasons ago. Looks the part, 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: But the NHL will let it lapse. It'll be felt 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: like some of you dopes tell me on Twitter that 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: he's not good enough yet, that he didn't But this 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: isn't something you earn. It just happens, and it's happening now. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: It happened organically with Sidinov when they were young. You 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: got to jump on that moving train. But again, the 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: NHL won't do that. The NHL doesn't know how to 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: create or promote stars, and being American doesn't help. Incredibly, 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't because the NHL is run by Canadians for Canadians. 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Canadians bully the league and Jack Hughes just beat Canada. 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: You think the Canadians who run the NHL want the 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: guy who just beat him and made their next two 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: years till the World Cup a living hell. You think 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: they want that guy to be the face of the league. 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so, Joel. But while the opportunity is there, 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and it's going to be wasted, just like quite honestly, 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: hockey in the NHL waste every friggin opportunity. 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: But none more golden than this one. 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: And when I say that Jack Hugh should be the 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: face of the league, and I remind everybody that the 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: face of the league currently, the face of hockey currently 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: is Sydney Cosby at age thirty eight. No offensive, but 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: that's old to be the face of the league. You 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: got to look at who drop the ball. McDavid he's 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: a sour puss and can't win. McKinnon he wins, but 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: he's kind of a dink. Both of them are boring 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and they're in the wrong time zone. 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: That matters. 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Instagram matters, Lacking charisma matters. You know what doesn't matter 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: stats because McDavid and McKinnon got them dripping out their 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: butthole and they're not stars like those stats you would 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: think should dictate now you was playing in New Jersey 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: doesn't help a ton. 47 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: It's not New York. It's no work. It is in 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: the right time zone. 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: And people don't get what I mean when I say 50 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: that the two middle time zones. If you're there, you 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: can't be a star. You're too early for one coast, 52 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: too late for the other. You can't be a star. 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: And the Devil's are New York's beer cless team. It's 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: a boring franchise. Even when they win, it's a boring franchise. 55 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Their all time best player is a goalie, Marty Brador. 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: He might be the best goalie ever, probably is. No 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: one goes to a hockey game hoping the puck doesn't 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: go in the nets. You want the puck to go 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in the other net more than in your net, so 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Marty Conon in that regard. 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: But nobody buys tickets to see a goalie. They don't. 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: That's why when I have my list of hockey's legitimate 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: needle moving stars, I don't have a single goalie on them, 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: because you're not rating the quality of the player, you're 65 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: rating star power. You're rating appeal to the general masses. 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: You're how many tickets he sells and how many viewers 67 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: he brings to a TV set, And a goalie does 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: not do that. The only true ticket moving stars in 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: the league's history are Mario, Gretzky or. 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: Sid That might be it, maybe Ovi, maybe not. 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: The Devils have never even had a superstar forward. They're 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: underachieving this season. I keep getting people saying, well, they're 73 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs. The face of the 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: league can't make the playoffs. Yeah, Mario didn't make the 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: playoffs plenty of times, and he was the face of 76 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the league along with Gretzky, probably a bit under gretz 77 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: for a while because Mario's French and they don't like that. 78 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Up in Canada. 79 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: The nuances of what Canada likes and doesn't like way 80 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: too heavily in a debate where honestly Canada doesn't matter, 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: in America does, but they'll never acknowledge that or act 82 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: upon it. 83 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Hockey probably just is what it is and it probably 85 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: can't be upgraded its profile. But if it can be, 86 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Jack Hughes is the best option to do that in 87 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: a long long time. Tell me what you think A 88 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: three three four one two WXDX. I'm avoiding Steeler talk 89 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: because nothing is happening that matters, and certainly not at 90 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that combine, which is just a just just show, just 91 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: to get people talking about football and to get and 92 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: to get the players to realize whose. 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Boss you get these guys out of college? 94 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Okay, we need you to strip to your underwear and 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: run around in front of us to no good ends. 96 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: But uh, Omar Con today at the combine, did you 97 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: ever see like Omar Khan or even talk well? Omar 98 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Con will do that the interviews like with the media 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: gathered around him and the media leans in like they're 100 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: listening to the word of Christ. 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: They're not. 102 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: They're listening to the words of a being Connor who 103 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: shouldn't be the GM. Omar Kahn said the Steelers, it's 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: a quote. They need a quote AFC North type of quarterback. 105 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: An AFC North type of quarterback. What the frig does 106 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: that even mean? And if you know so much, con artists, 107 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: you being connor. If you know so much why the 108 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: Steelers mangled the quarterback position since ben Quit, If you 109 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: know so much, if you know what it takes to 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: be an AFC North type of quarterback, you need a 111 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: good quarterback, that AFC North type of quarterback. That's Tom 112 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: Win style. BS. 113 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: And by way of proof, because the intelligency of which 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I am one always offer proof. Burrow and Jackson couldn't 115 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: be more different. They both play in the AFC North, 116 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: they both won the division. Always right about the Steelers 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: and BS and their BS and moving forward, I'm even 118 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: going to be more rights and you're gonna hate it, 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get even richer because of it. 120 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: How does that make all of you feel? 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Well? 122 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: I'm being really healy today, but I'm also being really 123 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: correct a mundo today one oh five nine matter what 124 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: we do, so we might as well have a good 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: time to got oh guy X. 126 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: I keep seeing people. 127 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Not understanding why I think Jack Hughes is the face 128 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: of hockey. You know, he's not that good. They cide 129 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: his stats, the Devils aren't very good. Blah blah blah. 130 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: You don't understand popularity. 131 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I do because I'm really popular within the context of 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: this city and what I do, I'm the most popular guy. 133 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: And part of it is I understand what makes you popular. 134 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm really good, but I just have that charisma factor, 135 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: that it factor. I'm not gonna compare myself to Taylor Swift. Well, 136 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: actually have more talent than her. 137 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: But do you think she's the. 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Best singer, You think she's the best pop star, you 139 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: think she's the best looking. She's none of the above, 140 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: but she's pretty good at all of the above, and 141 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: she just has that it factor. And when you recognize that, 142 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: you take advantage of it. And Jack used by scoring 143 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: that golden goal, has revealed that he has that it 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: factor and given himself a platform to take advantage, given 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: hockey a platform to take advantage. But you can either 146 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: take advantage, you can let it lapse, and Hockey's gonna 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: let it lapse. 148 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: But I'm right about this. 149 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I know about popularity and it has something to do 150 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: with goals and assists, but not a whole heck of 151 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot. Your thoughts at eight three three four one 152 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: two WXDX, or you can follow me on Twitter at 153 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Mark madden x Omark Kahn saying the Steelers need an 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: AFC North type of quarterback unquote. My penis wants to laugh. 155 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: What the freak does that even mean? The Steelers are 156 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: clowns now staying with football. Not Steeler talking about combine talk, 157 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: because that's useless. But apparently the NFL is no longer 158 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: thinking about outlining the tush push, maybe because a bunch 159 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: of teams can do it now and pretty good, even 160 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers. It's not just a Philly thing anymore. But 161 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: the NFL might let replay officials quote unquote throw flags 162 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: for non football penalties on the field that the refs 163 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: don't see, like throwing a punch was the example given, 164 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: because that happened in the Super Bowl and no penalty 165 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: rest didn't see it. It's too much, too much replay, 166 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: too many flags, too much time used to administrate. It's 167 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: all just too much, too much everything. You know, If 168 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: they had that, I'm thinking maybe DK Metcalf gets ejected 169 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: from that game at Detroit because remember, the residents see that, 170 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: but everybody knew what happens. 171 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: Let's go to Phill fill your own with double. 172 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 4: Mrs all about the Penns trade. I mean the fact 173 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: that Dubis turned Jari's contract into Skinner a couple second 174 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: round picks Kulak, and then it's just for the guy 175 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: to be just traded. If he doesn't win GM of 176 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: the Year this year, I don't know who would be 177 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: more deserving any thing to do. 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why he has no chance of winning 179 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: GM of the Year because the people who vote for 180 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: it still blame him for for Toronto being where they're at, 181 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: even though that's ridiculous. 182 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: That was Brendan Shanahan. And though the Leafs have it 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: in their DNA to. 184 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: Suck the Penguins, the Penguins have winning in their DNA, 185 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: and people think that that that I'm full of crap 186 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: when I talk about a team's DNA, and really I am, 187 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense. There's no such thing as 188 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: a team having DNA, except I think it's true. 189 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, let's go to Doug. Doug, you're home with Mark. 190 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: Hey, Mark, I wanted to talk about your point about 191 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: Jack Hughes being the faith of the league. 192 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he has potential there, but what 193 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: would you think about someone like Matt Kachuk. 194 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: Nah Meathead didn't score the golden goal? 195 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, back to back Cup winner though America. 196 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: No nobody can. 197 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: No. 198 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the US's family is the quintessential American 199 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: hockey family. It's a dad who played, a mom who played, 200 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: three brothers who all play. 201 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: And even though I'm. 202 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: Sure the Kachucks are very close, we see that the 203 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: US brothers, the whole family are very visibly, very close. 204 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: You never saw them apart at the Olympics. 205 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, And I'm. 206 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Not insulting the Kachucks by any means. I'm just saying 207 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: that the Users are a better bet. And again, perhaps 208 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker, and it's a heck of a tie breaker, 209 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: is that Jack Hughes just scored the golden goal. 210 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's really nobody else that the league could use. 211 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Hey, don't you think don't you think the users have? 212 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: It's not about talent. I keep saying that nobody listens. 213 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 214 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Don't you agree that the users are more likable than 215 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: the Kachuks, that they have a more friendly kind of charisma. 216 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that. 217 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. 218 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Users remind me of and this might 219 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: be a reach, and it's it's three kids I like 220 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: and a band I like. The Users remind me of 221 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Greta van Fleet, the Kishka brothers from Michigan as well. 222 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: You see them from a distance and you sense that 223 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: they're likable. You may not know that, but everything they do, 224 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the way they act, what they say, their closeness, you 225 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: sense that they're likable. I never thought that I would 226 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: miss having a brother till I see brother combinations like 227 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: those I'm mentioning the users may made me think of 228 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: that that. 229 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I never had a brother. Let's go to Rick. Rick, 230 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: you're on with double M. 231 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: Hey Mark regarding your singer on Jackieues making him the 232 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: face of the league. I just don't think it matters 233 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: who they put. I mean, I think the NHL will 234 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: fumbled anyhow. Just oh yeah, I mean they capitalize on. 235 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: No question, the NHL doesn't know what it's doing in 236 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: terms of producing and promoting stars. But it's not who 237 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: you pick, it's what's happening. Jack Hughes is happening. Thank 238 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: you for the call. Got to get to Pierre Maguire, 239 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: he's up next. We'll ask him about the Penguin trade, 240 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and of course wrap up Olympic hockey. If you're just 241 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: tuning in Penguins traded defenseman Brett Koulak to Edmonton. 242 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Excuse me, he came from Edmonton. 243 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: They turned to Colorado for defenseman Samuel Gerard and a 244 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: second round pick, gained five years in age, gained a 245 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: contracted year for Girard. I assume that Dubus thinks that's 246 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: good that they want to keep him around another year, 247 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: because they could have let Kulex contract run out. And 248 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: Dubus is just assembling a lot of assets moving forward. 249 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: And again he has a long term plan, he's executing it. 250 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: The Steelers never think beyond the next game. I can't 251 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: wait until the Penguins are contenders again. Legitimately, so before 252 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers are, because I'll be honest, I will grind 253 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: that into your faces like you just won't believe, and 254 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: you'll want to hate me, and then I'll retire and 255 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I'll laugh at you some more. Pierre McGuire up next, 256 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: one oh five to nine. 257 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: It's The Woody Show. Weekday morning six to ten one. 258 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: This is Doug Gottlieb. Here's what's trending from the Iheartsports 259 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: Network presented by Iheartadvertising dot Com. 260 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 6: Steelers GM Omar Cohn told NFL Network there is no 261 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 6: timetable yet on Aaron Rodgers deciding whether. 262 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: He'll be back next season. Let's sad an answer is 263 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: expected soon. 264 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 6: In the NFL Competition Committee, they're considering allowing replay officials 265 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 6: to throw flags on specific non football penalties. And the 266 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 6: Pens acquired defenseman Sam Gerard and a future second round 267 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 6: draft pick from. 268 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Colorado today for blue liner Brett Kulak. 269 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm Scott Davidson, run a business and not thinking about 270 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: radio think again because people are listening to. 271 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Rate So the big o'bowski right, goodbye, d Exit one 272 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: O five nine. 273 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: It's always time to talk hockey here on the Mark 274 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Madden Show, and there's nobody better to talk it with 275 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: than my guest at this time, Pierre Maguire. Pierre, before 276 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: we get to the Olympics, what do you think of 277 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: the trade the Penguins made today, Kulak to Colorado for 278 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: Samuel Girard and a second round pick. 279 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: It really depends on the help of Sammy Girard. Is 280 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: Sammy Gerard's help can stay strong and well, and then 281 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a real good pick up for Pittsburgh. 282 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 5: If it can't, then it's a bit of a problem. 283 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: You know, Kulac doesn't need a contract or needs a 284 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: contract after this year. Girard does not. They pick up 285 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 5: the stocks obviously in the draft pool, so that's a 286 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: very important thing with draft picks. I think it's a 287 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: good deal as long as Sammy can stay healthy because 288 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: he's a very confident player, and I can tell you 289 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: one thing, he's very very well liked by his teammates 290 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 5: in Colorado, extremely well like. 291 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a good trade for both teams. 292 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I think Kulak, you know, having been to the last 293 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: two finals might give Colorado a bit of an element. 294 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say an upgrade, but sometimes somebody 295 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: different that's been there and come close to doing that 296 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: anyway can help a bit. 297 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: That does. That's part of the factor and that's what Colorado. 298 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 5: The other part is he's been to three final he 299 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: went twice with Edmonton and once with Montreal. He's a 300 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: bigger Barty than Samuel Gerard. They know that they need 301 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: a little bit of size back there. Eric Johnson's retired. 302 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: Now you know, Gerrard's not a big guy. They have 303 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: one of the bigger guys in the league. I think 304 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: in terms of being physical and Josh Manson, but they 305 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: still need I think they understand a little bit more 306 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: depth in the back end in terms of overall physical 307 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: size and the more thing about Kulak and I know 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: I told you this when he went. He's an extremely 309 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 5: good skater and he's got a lot of experience, and 310 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: that's something Colorado walks. They clearly think they have an 311 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 5: open window to try to win the Cup. 312 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Pierre turning out of the Olympics, and what a great 313 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: games were is what happened on that US play the 314 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: golden goal by Jack Hughes to win it, because that 315 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: play opened up dramatically, didn't it. 316 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 5: Fatigue factor, bench management by John Cooper, his star players, 317 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: whether it was mccar, whether it's McDavid, whether it was McKinnon. 318 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: Those last three games they played against Checkian all the time, 319 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: against Finland where they had him win in the last 320 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 5: twenty five seconds on a power play goal, and against 321 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 5: obviously a really good teams in the United States. Those 322 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 5: top players were playing over twenty five minutes a game. 323 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: That's too much. Three games in almost four and a 324 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: half days, and they just ran out of steam. And 325 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 5: so the biggest part of that play when you watch 326 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: the tape wat Zach Lareensky a the Columbus Blue Guy 327 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: to Blue Jackets, win a race with Nathan McKinnon and 328 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: he chips the putt through his feet and mccarr just 329 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 5: couldn't get back to track. Obviously, I'm Jack Hughs and 330 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 5: that's what led to it. But I know people don't 331 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: think it's fashionable, but I'll say it anyways. Be'st management 332 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 5: of Canada the last three games was really, I think questionable. 333 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 334 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you mentioned Warrensky's name, and it's 335 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: unavoidable given the play he made. But i think he's 336 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: perennially underrated and I'm glad this puts his name out 337 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: there a bit. 338 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 5: Mark before the gold medal game, I did a big 339 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 5: hit for NBC Digital and one of the things I 340 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: talked about was the depth of the Americans defense. And 341 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: the final thing I left with was the most underrated 342 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: tandem in the tournament by a mile, was Jake Sanderson 343 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: and Zach Warensky. Those guys were towers of power on 344 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: the five on three penalty kill in particular, even though 345 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: the Canadians didn't score. It's a good thing they didn't, 346 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 5: and they got momentum after that that Those penalty killers, 347 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 5: whether it was Dylan Larkin, whether Zak Warensky, where there's 348 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: Jake Sanderson, those guys were phenomenal. But Wrensky's offense was 349 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: so important this entire tournament. Good for you for acknowledging that. 350 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: Connor mcdavil goot MVP and he had the most points, 351 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: but the MVP was obviously really Connor. 352 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: Hellabuck. 353 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: Is that gold medal game one of the great games 354 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: in goaltending history. 355 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: It's gonna go up there for sure. Jim Craig obviously, 356 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: and it wasn't the gold medal game because it was 357 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: a little bit different format back in nineteen eighty Jim 358 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 5: Craig against the Soviets back then was pretty amazing. But 359 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: this was the modern era that has to go down 360 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: as one of the greatest ones ever. I mean, I've 361 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: done every one since two thousand and two. The only 362 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 5: one I wasn't at was Beijing just because of COVID 363 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 5: before and I was working in the National Hockey League. 364 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, I would say probably in modern times, since 365 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 5: they've gone to this format, is probably the best goaltending 366 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 5: performance I've seen. 367 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's worth noting Jordan Bennington played five 368 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: for Canada. 369 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: I don't think he's the reason they lost it. 370 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: No, No, my goodness, Grace is it was a two 371 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: to one game with an overtime goal to make it too. 372 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: Bennington made played great, but he honestly, think about celebrining 373 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 5: on a breakaway, Think about McDavid on a breakway, Think 374 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: about McKinnon missing an open net, Think about the save 375 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 5: that he makes on Davante's with the paddle of his stick. 376 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 5: I mean, all these things are you know, these are 377 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: superhuman efforts, and so I thought that's probably the best 378 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: game that Connor Hallibuck's ever played, to your point, which 379 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: I think is a really good one. Probably the best goals. 380 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 5: I mean we've performance we've seen in a gold medal 381 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 5: game since nineteen ninety eight. 382 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Did McDavid fail Canada. 383 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm not being as critical of him as some but 384 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: no points in the final and he lost us on 385 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: the game winning goal, although like you said, Pierre, I 386 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: think fatigue was definitely a factor with him as well. 387 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, those guys I feel so badly for though hit 388 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: He in particular talking about McDavid and obviously McKennon and mccarr. 389 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 5: The ice time was too much to crosby injury, and 390 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 5: I know we talked about a little bit. The Crosby 391 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: injury was a real devastating blow to Canada. They could 392 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 5: not find a person to replace sid and that's what 393 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 5: led to all the extra ice time for those top 394 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 5: three guys plus Labrini. Uh, they were just out of juice. 395 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: You could see it, and they was. They were running 396 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: out of racetrack pretty fast. 397 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: How does that game go? If sid plays, does he 398 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: put Canada over the top? 399 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 5: I think so, And I know Americans don't want to 400 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: hear that, but and I'm not playing favorites because I'm 401 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: on Pittsburgh Radio. Sidney Crosby's a game changer. He's always 402 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: been a change agent for every place he's ever been, 403 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 5: whether it was the Pittsburgh Penguins, whether it was the 404 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: five World Junior team for Canada, the twenty ten Olympics 405 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 5: for Canada, twenty fourteen Olympics for Canada, the World Cup 406 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 5: of Hockey. You know, I can go down the line. 407 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 5: Is a three time Olympian and I really thought in 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: a two time goal medalist, and I thought if he 409 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: played that game. He makes a different face off wise, 410 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: he takes away a lot of stress off of mix Suzuki. Uh. 411 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 5: It really makes the Mark Stone and line better with 412 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: Stone and Crosby playing together with myriner, So you know, Mark, Yes, 413 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: it makes a huge difference in that game. 414 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Yes, well, even at seventy I mean, no knock on 415 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: whoever would have got scratched, whether it's been at or whoever. 416 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: I'd rather had sitting there at seventy percent just for 417 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: certain situations. And one of those situations was the five 418 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: on three power play. I thought that five on three 419 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: kill was the turning point and it amazed me. And 420 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, the USPK and Hellibut did great, 421 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: but I'm still surprised Canada didn't do better with that 422 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: power play. 423 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 5: They didn't because they lost the initial draw and they 424 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: were stagging it right after that. That's why I talked 425 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: about faceoff importance. Dylan Larkin was so good in face 426 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: off the entire tournament. And I talked about Wrensky and 427 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: Sanderson before they were phenomenal. They were all world So 428 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: was Brock favoring that five on three. But you can't 429 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: say enough about Dylan Lark and the face off play 430 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 5: to open up the penalty kill was huge. The Americans' 431 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: ability to get the puck down the h when they 432 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 5: were down two men, that was massive. And you're right, 433 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: I think if kid's playing in that situation, it probably 434 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: changes a little bit of the outcome, especially in the 435 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: five on three. But all that being said, Canada got 436 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: a lot of momentum even though they didn't score. And 437 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: the American Solman, because of your point before, Connor Hellibuck 438 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: was just so darn good. Mark, he was really good. 439 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: Two Pittsburgh guys were really good on the PK. All 440 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Tournament eighteen for eighteen was the US result on the 441 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: PK for the Olympics, and they both played on that 442 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: three on five Trocheck and Miller, and some people criticized 443 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: their inclusion, and I got admit, I thought Robertson or 444 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: a cow Field I would have preferred them. But their 445 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: inclusion kind of got vindicated, didn't it. 446 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 5: They did at the end, you know, it didn't so 447 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: much maybe in the Sweden game or the Swedes tied 448 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: at late and they were both on the ice, and 449 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: a lot of people were wondering about that selection of 450 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 5: player personnel. But it definitely did in the gold medal game. 451 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: They didn't really have to stress much against Slovakia. I 452 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 5: thought Danny Trochik did some really good things in the turno. 453 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 5: I thought jt got better as a tournament went along. 454 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: It was a limited ice time kind of situation for 455 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 5: both players. But they are part of a gold wedding, 456 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 5: a golden medal winning team. They should be extremely proud 457 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: of what they were able to accomplish. You know. The 458 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: only thing Mark I'd like to say about this folding 459 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: with the Olympics, and I'm not getting political here, it's 460 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: about the Russians. The Russians not being there. It changes 461 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 5: the dynamic of the tournament a lot, and I think 462 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: that's something hopefully that they can work out, both geopolitically 463 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 5: and athletically, because it doesn't you know, if everybody says 464 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: best on best, best on best without the Russians there, 465 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: it's best on best except there were no Russians there. 466 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Well, I would hope for the World Cup in two years, 467 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: which is an NHL event, that the NHL would just say, Okay, 468 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: the Russians play in our league, they can play in 469 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: our tournament. And I'll be blunt if they can play 470 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: in the league, but not the tournament. 471 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 5: That's kind of hypocritical, it is, and that's why I 472 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 5: bring it up. And so let's see where we go 473 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 5: with this. And I don't know enough about it geopolitically, 474 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 5: but all I can tell you is it's not right 475 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 5: when anybody's dying, you know, innocent people in particular. But 476 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: I don't think the hockey players are involved that quite frankly, is. 477 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: This gold medal redemption for Mike Sullivan who hasn't won 478 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: a playoff series since twenty eighteen and his New York 479 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: Rangers are having just a terrible year in his first season. 480 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 5: I think it is a little bit, I think for 481 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: he and obviously for David Quinn, I think it's huge. 482 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 5: I like the staff, the entire American staff. There's a 483 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh tie into with Johnny Hines, who I thought was 484 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: a really important part of that staff. So you look 485 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 5: at it, I think there is a little bit of 486 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 5: redemption there, which is a good thing, not a bad thing. 487 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: And I was I know, probably Pittsburgh fans aren't really 488 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 5: particular to Johnny Tortorello, but I was really happy for 489 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: torchs you know, I coach a lot of games against Torchs. 490 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 5: I broadcast a lot of Torts' games. I know he's 491 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: probably an acquired taste, but I can tell you one thing. 492 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: He's a heck of a hockey guy. He's a really 493 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 5: good hockey guy, and I'm really happy at an opportunity 494 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: to win a gold medal. He was so darn close 495 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: in twenty ten. I'll never forget him seeing him and 496 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: on the bench and not being particularly pleased when they 497 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: lost in the Crosby Golden goal. And now he's got 498 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: his white. The coaches don't get a gold medal, but 499 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll get a beautiful Olympic ring, which will 500 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 5: be more nice or more beautiful. 501 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: You know what's funny. 502 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: That game had so many stories to it, so many sidebars. 503 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking after the game, who scored that first 504 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: goal for the US, and obviously was Matt Boldie? 505 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: And what's the great goal? What was it? Might have 506 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: been the goal of the Olympics. 507 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Matt's a good player. Kid that went to the 508 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: Dexter School just outside of Boston. He went to Boston 509 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 5: College for two years. He grew up in Millis, mass 510 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 5: My first apartment on as a young college coach was 511 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: in Millis, mass When I was coaching at Badston College, 512 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 5: so I know the Matt Boldie story pretty darn well. 513 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 5: And boyle boy, what a good player is for the 514 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: Minnesota Wild. I thought he'd be the one player the 515 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: Americans had that not a lot of hockey fans would 516 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: know about who would break through. And I think he 517 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 5: just had a spectacular Olympic tournament. I am so happy 518 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 5: for him and his family. 519 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Here's the question I've been kicking around since the puck 520 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: went and to win the for the US, Jack Hughes 521 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: obviously became a superstar with that goal. Can he be 522 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: the new face of hockey? That's something you don't assigned. 523 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: It just happens. But what do you think, why or 524 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: why not? He's so marketable? 525 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 5: Oh, he's very marketable. Mark. I want to touch base 526 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: because this is another Pittsburgh tie into. The man that 527 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: drafted in first overall in the twenty nineteen draft was 528 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: Regian Shiro. Ray Chiro for those that knowrlman in Pittsburgh 529 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: and Ray was my best friend. Ray was an amazing 530 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: advocate for Jack Hughes and believed in him and when 531 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: the pressure was on before Ray got fired in New Jersey. 532 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 5: He would tell me almost on a daily basis, pair 533 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Jack Hughes is going to do special 534 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: thanks and hockey's going to be an amazing player. He 535 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: just got to get a little bit more mature, He's 536 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: got to get a little bit stronger. But his skill 537 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 5: set and his hockey IQs insane. And I said, I 538 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: agree with you, REGI. I always called him that, and 539 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: sure enough, you know, I was watching that the other 540 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: day and I really want to salute Team USA for 541 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: what they did with the Goodrow family. I thought that 542 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 5: was so beautiful. I really do, and it really made 543 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 5: me emotional. And I had to go to work right 544 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: afterwards doing some TV work. We're INBC, so it's stuff. 545 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 5: But then I started thinking about Ray and all that 546 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: he used to say to me about Jack, and Jack 547 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: was the guy that was insulated by Ray forever and 548 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 5: ever and ever when he started, and I just wanted 549 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 5: to share that with you. So the factors is that 550 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 5: a really good hockey man thought that Jack Hughes were 551 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 5: going to do something special and would continue to do 552 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: special things in hockey, and I think he was proven 553 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 5: right in the gold medal game. So The answer to 554 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 5: your question is yes, I think he can be a 555 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 5: face of hockey. 556 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: Yes, here's a cliche question, Pierre. But who would win 557 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: a best of seven series? Which doesn't matter because it wasn't. 558 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 5: I think the Canadians would win a best of seven 559 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: as Sid was playing. I really do. If they had 560 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: their whole lineup and everybody was healthy, I think the 561 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: Canadians win a best of seven, probably four games to two. 562 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Pierre, did the Olympics put a stamp of approval more 563 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: so on three on three overtime? Because we saw three 564 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: great games that ended three on three with four great 565 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: overtime goals. Those four goals arguably the most memorable moments 566 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of the tournament. 567 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: They were all classics. 568 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 5: And are you talking about the women's goal as well, 569 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: because that was the beauty but that's one of the four. Yeah, 570 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: that's yeah, that's what I thought you were talking. Yeah, 571 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 5: that was first of all. I want to touch on 572 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: that one. Megan Keller's goal was just a thing of 573 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: beauty that if you haven't seen it folks, please give 574 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 5: it a try on YouTube. It's just a magnificence. It's 575 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: something Mary Olmute would do. It's just it was Lemieux esque. 576 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: It was so beautiful. So the answer it's for a 577 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 5: lot of hockey peerists know. And I've done an informal 578 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: poll for my home office here and a lot of 579 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: hockey people have come a terrible way to decide an 580 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: Olympic gold medal. And I'm like, yeah, but it was 581 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 5: pretty entertaining. But most of the hockey peers say no. 582 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: I'd like to see a compromise where you go four 583 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: on four rather than three on three. I think that 584 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: might be more than an appetite for hockey peerists. But 585 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: I think the fans loved it. I really do it. 586 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Pierre, hockey purist don't matter in 587 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. They hold the gud back. I've 588 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: been talking about that a lot like three on three worked. 589 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: It was so entertaining, so dramatic, It got games over quick. 590 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: And we do live in a fast food universe, not Pierre. 591 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: But everybody says they still hated it when they should 592 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: have loved it. It's the same thing with me saying Jack, 593 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: you should be the face of the league. Oh, he 594 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: hasn't earned it. It's not good enough. It's not something 595 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: you're assigned or something you earned. It just happened, and 596 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: it's happening. But stuff like that thinking holds hockey back. 597 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: I love what you just said because I've been flating 598 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 5: this flight for a long time and I was the 599 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: one that wanted the red line out forever and ever 600 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: and ever, and finally got out. And I believe me, 601 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 5: I had to endure a lot of slings and arrows 602 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 5: to get that pushed over the finish line. But it's 603 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: worked out for a lot of different situations around. Hockey 604 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 5: has created an amazing drama threw into Stanley Cup players 605 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: in the regular season. So no, you're right, Mark, I 606 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: look at I. I was kind of caught in the middle. 607 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 5: I said to those guys that were hockey peers, and 608 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: they said it was entertaining, wasn't And they're like, yeahing, 609 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 5: but and they always have a butt. I don't have 610 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: a problem with it. I like the way that ended. 611 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm happy for the Americans. I think this is going 612 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 5: to help hockey so much, what the women did and 613 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 5: what the men did, both Canadian and American in particular. 614 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you had a chance to 615 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 5: watch it, but the Swiss win on the women's side 616 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: in the bronze medal game. I did see Sweden. It 617 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 5: was spectacular hockey and I don't know how many people 618 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 5: watched it, but it was really riveting and the golden 619 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 5: goal in overtime was amazing. So and that was Merco 620 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: Mueller's sister, by the way, a long time NHL player 621 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: played in San Jose and New Jersey, who scored the goal. 622 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: She went to Northeastern University. But yeah, no, I'm with you. 623 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 5: I kind of think it's very entertaining and I hope 624 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: they think. Oh, I know, the IOC has already said 625 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 5: they're going to stick with it for the next Olympics. 626 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: Pierre is always great stuff. Next week we'll be back 627 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: to talking about the NHL. But you and I both 628 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: know the only better hockey in the Olympics is going 629 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: to be at the Mario Lemue fantasy camp. 630 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, it will be. It'll be fantastic. And you 631 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: know what, just throw a little bit out there. I 632 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: think my team is still gonna win, So there you go. 633 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: Of course, Well, I don't know. 634 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: You know what, though Kauf took that job with the 635 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Oilers Paul Coffee, He's going back to coach their defense 636 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: that drops him out of the camp that's good if 637 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: he's on your team, Pier, that's a big blow. 638 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: It's a big blow. But I'm not sure Kauf would 639 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: have been playing this year. I think we're gonna put 640 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: him on injured reserve. 641 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: Kauf would just come back to play that crooked dice game. 642 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: With the campers. 643 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: You've seen. No, my god, that's Pierre Maguire. I'm mark Man. 644 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Pierre brought to us by Always Say Flagging and Traffic Control. 645 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Up next, a lot more talk about hockey, including uh 646 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: tj Oshi criticizing the three on three overtime format, which 647 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: proves what we already knew, which is that he's clueless. 648 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: One oh five ninety X Thursday Night, the Pens take 649 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: on the Devils. Game time is seven. 650 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the 651 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens. 652 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: One O five nine d x. 653 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: A. 654 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Ten basketball is taking over the Steel City March eleventh 655 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: or fifteenth. 656 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six. 657 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Eight ten Men's Basketball Championship is bringing the heat to