Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: He's got those show back seven hundred WLW. We'll get
Speaker 2: into State of the Union stuff. I think he's still talking,
Speaker 2: so I'll wait for the President to wrap up and
Speaker 2: then we'll talk about him and what he said. We'll
Speaker 2: get into that just about thirty minutes here and all
Speaker 2: morning law and on seven hundred w ALW. I want
Speaker 2: to start with this though. It's an interesting, interesting topic.
Speaker 2: We know social media is toxic, right It's getting harder
Speaker 2: to find the value of connection, and that's what it's about.
Speaker 2: It's about connecting with friends, and you can go on
Speaker 2: and check from people from school and high school people,
Speaker 2: you grow up with coworkers and your circle expands and
Speaker 2: it's great. But we are also just absolutely swamped in
Speaker 2: there with bots and trolls and seeming we have taken
Speaker 2: over the interwebs. Matter of fact, right now, Kentucky lawmakers
Speaker 2: are working on age verification legislation to protect kids. You
Speaker 2: saw the big tech companies and the social media people
Speaker 2: like Mark Zuckerberg and others who have been called in
Speaker 2: front of Congress, and that's for kids right now. Adults
Speaker 2: field as well. Here's a case in point so I
Speaker 2: saw this real post by Tricia Mackie from Fox nineteen
Speaker 2: and did a very unusual thing this week. She clapped
Speaker 2: back at the trolls in some of the comments I made.
Speaker 2: It was just like, you're shaking your head going that
Speaker 2: this can't be real people, There's got to be bots.
Speaker 2: It's insane. Tricia Mackie, welcome, How are you gay?
Speaker 3: Thanks good, I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Thanks for getting up early. Is this
Speaker 2: early for you?
Speaker 3: This is early when you go to sleep at three?
Speaker 3: This is early? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well thanks for being a tripper and
Speaker 2: coming on. I appreciate it. You bad so normally journalists,
Speaker 2: I mean, traditionally, you guys don't go at viewers. You're
Speaker 2: taught to simply shrug it off. Is that changing or
Speaker 2: did you just hit a breaking pointer?
Speaker 3: You know, I've always kind of been like a little
Speaker 3: bit more outspoken, but still, you know, not rude. It's
Speaker 3: not like I'm rude. It's just I don't you have
Speaker 3: to get to that point where you don't really care
Speaker 3: when somebody continues to try to like put you down.
Speaker 3: And I think all of us need to get like that.
Speaker 3: If we listen to all of the negativity every single day,
Speaker 3: we would never get.
Speaker 4: Out of bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's just so much. And I am
Speaker 3: one of those people that I don't want to validate
Speaker 3: anyone ever by firing back when they say something negative.
Speaker 3: I think that's honestly the worst thing you can do.
Speaker 3: You can get in the shouting mass and that could
Speaker 3: go on forever. Right, you know you're ugly, No, you're ugly,
Speaker 3: or no, what your mom's ugly?
Speaker 1: Well, your dad?
Speaker 3: You know that whole thing. I mean, you know that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But why do it. You're just validating them,
Speaker 3: You're giving them more power over you. But at some
Speaker 3: point you just kind of got to tell everybody, Look,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna change. You can say whatever you want
Speaker 3: to say about me. You cannot like me. You can
Speaker 3: think I'm old, you can think I'm ugly, you cannot
Speaker 3: like my clothes, you cannot like my hair. Because we
Speaker 3: hear it all.
Speaker 5: We hear it all.
Speaker 3: I mean, all we do is really read the news,
Speaker 3: and everybody gives us some kind of a comment about
Speaker 3: every single aspect of who they are. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in.
Speaker 2: Talking talking the other Yeah, let me know what so
Speaker 2: talking and I can't answer for the males. But I
Speaker 2: talk to other female journalists or female anchors in town,
Speaker 2: and they all have the same story you do. You're
Speaker 2: just the one who addressed it right. Like, let me
Speaker 2: recall again, dress, your age, you're too old to be
Speaker 2: wearing a leather you look so unprofessional, and a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of comments that I can't mention on the radio
Speaker 2: right now about scrotums and things. It's crazy and all.
Speaker 2: But all the other anchors in town the same thing.
Speaker 2: You're just like the first one to say you clap
Speaker 2: back at him, and I thought the way you handled
Speaker 2: it was awesome. You're just like, I don't really care.
Speaker 6: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing, Like I don't care. I've heard everything,
Speaker 3: And the thing is, here's the other thing.
Speaker 4: This guy.
Speaker 3: I get a lot of compliments. I get a lot
Speaker 3: of people that are on my side. If you read
Speaker 3: the comments, there's a lot more like pro people than
Speaker 3: there are haters. Hairs are just loud and every now
Speaker 3: and then you just got to like be right back
Speaker 3: at I'm like, look, you don't affect that.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, do you think it's getting worse since
Speaker 2: COVID in particular.
Speaker 3: I think it's gotten worse is everybody gets on social
Speaker 3: media for hours and hours a day. They just feel
Speaker 3: more emboldened. They just say whatever they want, don't you think,
Speaker 3: So what do they say to you? Do they say anything?
Speaker 3: Or you're or a guy and you're more protected than
Speaker 3: being I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I don't pay attention, I don't engage. I just and
Speaker 2: I know you're not. You're supposed to because it's part
Speaker 2: of your tip. Social media socially, like it's a cesspool
Speaker 2: in my opinion, like the people I want to stay
Speaker 2: in contact with I do, and I should be better
Speaker 2: at it right. So I'm like, I'm kind of like
Speaker 2: the salmon swimming upstream here, Like I don't see there's
Speaker 2: value in it for sure, But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like, do you want to immerse yourself in that too?
Speaker 2: I know people who are on it twenty four to
Speaker 2: seven basically because they feel like it's part of my
Speaker 2: job and you never get to turn it off. I like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how you should live your life.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: I like getting on there. I like seeing what's going on.
Speaker 3: I like I think it could be used for powerful
Speaker 3: things and good things like all of the dogs that
Speaker 3: I try to get like adopted in better helmps.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love checking in to see how people are doing.
Speaker 3: I love the positive stuff, I really do. I think
Speaker 3: there's good positive stuff, but there's a lot of negativity
Speaker 3: on there. I don't like putting my kids out there anymore.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. You know, I really change from
Speaker 3: putting my kids out there to putting my dogs out
Speaker 3: there because people are a lot less likely to badmouth
Speaker 3: the dogs and much more likely to badmouth my kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a dog guy too, but admittedly attrician.
Speaker 2: All the work you do to try and save these dugs,
Speaker 2: some of those dogs are they're just terrible dogs, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't defend all the dust. Some dogs
Speaker 2: are real a.
Speaker 3: Holes, just like people.
Speaker 2: You're trying. I'm like, come on, this dog clearly is
Speaker 2: a jerk. It's you know, he's chewing stuff up, like
Speaker 2: he doesn't deserve a home. You should just like live
Speaker 2: in a kid. You should be in car sal terrible
Speaker 2: trying to save all the dogs. Dogs.
Speaker 3: Hey man, it's just like a kid. You gotta like
Speaker 3: give them a little bit of love. And advice.
Speaker 2: Some dogs are just too ugly to be exactly.
Speaker 3: We only talk about the cute ones. That's like my
Speaker 3: that's my thing. You bring on an ugly dog, it's.
Speaker 2: An ugly dog. It sounds like you're kind of dipping
Speaker 2: your TUTORTIONI mack into the into the Savannah Guthrie thing,
Speaker 2: is that part of this? Does this play into your
Speaker 2: you going off against the haters and trolls online? Is
Speaker 2: like you saw Hanna Savannah and she may never return
Speaker 2: to the Today Show because she feels and you could
Speaker 2: see this, she feels like she has a hand in
Speaker 2: what happened to her mom, which is crazy, but I
Speaker 2: think that's how she feels.
Speaker 3: I think that she does feel that, and you know
Speaker 3: that really doesn't have anything to do with what I did,
Speaker 3: just kind of like just saying, you know, enough is enough.
Speaker 3: I really don't care. You can keep it coming. I
Speaker 3: don't care, but I do feel that for her. I
Speaker 3: don't know what happened there. We don't know, right, did
Speaker 3: it play it part of it? Who she is?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, did they want that much money? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's scary and I think it's
Speaker 3: unbelievable that even yesterday she puts out like a million
Speaker 3: dollars in what she gets to hate, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: why do it take so long? You have more than
Speaker 3: that that kind of stuff, But are you going to
Speaker 3: listen to that? That's kind of like what are you
Speaker 3: going to listen to that? Or are you just gonna
Speaker 3: like stand firm and who you are? You know?
Speaker 2: But Tricia as Tricia Mackey by the way, on the show,
Speaker 2: is as a female journalist, don't you feel like you
Speaker 2: have to continue to put yourself out there, not only
Speaker 2: when you're on the air, but off the air as well,
Speaker 2: And so that opens your whole life up because you're
Speaker 2: always trying to create content. That's the and I see
Speaker 2: where she where Savannah Guthrie's upset is, you know, I
Speaker 2: made a semi star out of my mom and maybe
Speaker 2: that did have a hand because we should inside of
Speaker 2: her house and she thinks that that's how they got
Speaker 2: the intel to be able to go get her mom
Speaker 2: and got Now it doesn't seem like she's with us
Speaker 2: anymore at this point. Sadly, you hate to admit it,
Speaker 2: but that's a reality when you're eighty four years old
Speaker 2: and you've been gone for over three weeks. She's taking
Speaker 2: that as she is the one who did this. I
Speaker 2: firmly believe that. And so does that make you rethink
Speaker 2: your social media policy? She said, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: post pictures of your kids anymore. It's more about the
Speaker 2: dogs and the like. I think we all kind of
Speaker 2: have that awareness.
Speaker 3: Now, what's funny because I stopped posting about my kids
Speaker 3: every now and then, I do, but my one of
Speaker 3: my kids got a lot of backlash. I mean a
Speaker 3: lot where you know, he's playing basketball and we were
Speaker 3: there were several games, high school games, and we were
Speaker 3: escorted out of the gym by police because there were
Speaker 3: so much heat, because there was so much hate. And
Speaker 3: absolutely one hundred percent had to do with who I was,
Speaker 3: absolutely hundred percent, because you just don't like start like
Speaker 3: trolling a kid on the court for no reason and
Speaker 3: have to be escorted out by police. I mean, definitely
Speaker 3: plays a role in the hate that comes with that job.
Speaker 3: And you know, and I can imagine I felt guilty
Speaker 3: about that, and so I'm like, what am I doing.
Speaker 3: I'm not putting my kids out there. They can put
Speaker 3: themselves out there. I'll stick to other things, And there's
Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind she has to feel terrible
Speaker 3: about that, right, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1: I would? Would you?
Speaker 3: How many years have you been on TV or on
Speaker 3: radio in and out there?
Speaker 2: Well most of my life since I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: So you know we're talking here at LW as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, just yesterday, twenty five years here at
Speaker 2: seven under WW.
Speaker 3: That's a ton that's an And think about, like and
Speaker 3: think about how it changed from twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: There's no phone, no internet. I mean to find out
Speaker 3: information about you, it took a minute, right, I mean
Speaker 3: I had to like really like do some research you could.
Speaker 3: I couldn't pick up a encyclopedia and find out about you,
Speaker 3: right right, I mean I had to like do a
Speaker 3: lot of research, talk to a lot of people. And
Speaker 3: now I can find out anything about you, know, I
Speaker 3: just I mean even before we went on, I found
Speaker 3: all these pictures of you and your wife's birthday, I
Speaker 3: know everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because it's out there and AI is going
Speaker 2: to compress that, It's going to compress it even more.
Speaker 3: Oh I am not a fan. I mean I think
Speaker 3: it's just used in so many horrible ways. I mean
Speaker 3: I think it's it's great the technology is going, but
Speaker 3: you can't even tell it's real anymore.
Speaker 2: Tricia Mackie, are you too old to be wearing leather?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 3: You are never too old to wear leather?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: Another anchor I talked to said the same. It's like
Speaker 2: it's the people, the trolls out there have something against
Speaker 2: female TV anchors wearing leather. I don't know what there is.
Speaker 8: Why?
Speaker 2: Why is leather like such a polarizing topic. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's very nice fabric.
Speaker 3: When someone says dressed your age, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: What's it?
Speaker 3: Do I wear burlap? I mean, I'm fifty seven?
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 3: What is my age like? Can I Can I not
Speaker 3: wear cloth at this point? Do you not wear cotton
Speaker 3: after forty? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, show up in a burka. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what people want at this but like, dress your age.
Speaker 2: But I think it's because the people who are doing
Speaker 2: that are miserable with their own lives and projecting on you,
Speaker 2: going wow, I could have done what she does, and
Speaker 2: she's famous and very successful and gets all these accolades,
Speaker 2: and I hate my life. And that's that's that projection, right,
Speaker 2: just because the person trolling you is they look like
Speaker 2: the bottom of a shoe that you know they're going
Speaker 2: to project that on you. That's how it is.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things is, and if someone
Speaker 3: says something negative ABOUTE, you'd like run to their page
Speaker 3: and you want to see the face look like and
Speaker 3: what they're wearing, and you want to fire something back
Speaker 3: that you can't don't do it. Don't engage just like
Speaker 3: you know, I just don't care. You can't run your
Speaker 3: life like that. Yeah, I mean, why do we kick?
Speaker 3: It's like when someone says, don't wear leather? Do you
Speaker 3: think I should like engage with them and try to
Speaker 3: be their friends. I don't want to be their friends.
Speaker 3: They can have their opinions. That's fine. I have mine
Speaker 3: and we can go our separate ways.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, the ultimate middle finger to those
Speaker 2: people in the next like tonight show up dressed as catwoman.
Speaker 2: I've got that off and on that rese catwoman? What
Speaker 2: is keeping the cow industry in business?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I think you know you asked me earlier about
Speaker 2: guys and stuff. I think there's certainly a double standard here.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you know what does Rob get does? Uh?
Speaker 2: I mean Mike, Mike Schall, who I worked for three
Speaker 2: years when I was in the night here at seven
Speaker 2: hundred w W Mike Shall one of your part. He
Speaker 2: looks like he woke up in a cardboard box and
Speaker 2: nobody's going at him.
Speaker 3: He wears a hunter's hat every day on the air,
Speaker 3: and a hard time is me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everyone's breaking You're breaking your balls and they
Speaker 2: won't go after him. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is like Rob and I will have
Speaker 3: this conversation and Robin come, I promise you if if
Speaker 3: Rob wore leather tonight, people would be championing at him,
Speaker 3: right they Nobody would have a problem. But it's just
Speaker 3: the way that it is between men and women.
Speaker 2: I guess. But you you know, And I think it's
Speaker 2: the format too with the Fox. You know, associately, a
Speaker 2: Fox News will like to you dress. I guess maybe
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a little more forward than
Speaker 2: most anchors on TV. You know, you're not a pantsuit
Speaker 2: kind of girl.
Speaker 3: I'm and I'm not really like a dress. I mean
Speaker 3: I wear onevery now and then, or a suit. I
Speaker 3: just I don't think you have to do that. I
Speaker 3: really don't I think that I've been on TV what
Speaker 3: thirty almost thirty four years right now, and I think
Speaker 3: people know me. And it's not really like do I
Speaker 3: have to put on a dress for I really? I
Speaker 3: mean like we're just gonna we're gonna talk about the news, right,
Speaker 3: And I feel like people know me. Either like me
Speaker 3: or you don't. I don't like that you don't like me,
Speaker 3: or you have like a campaign against me. But at
Speaker 3: this point you probably have your mind made up, you know,
Speaker 3: don't you agree with that? I mean, like you're the
Speaker 3: same boat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And if you if you care about that stuff,
Speaker 2: then you're never going to get a good night's sleep, right,
Speaker 2: Or you're trying to please everybody and you just have to.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people get everybody in
Speaker 2: this business and our TV what everybody self esteem issues.
Speaker 2: That's why you're in it, and so you know a
Speaker 2: lot of those people take that crap to heart. You
Speaker 2: just it's a turning point. Either you accept and go
Speaker 2: like I can't change your opinion, I'll just tune you out,
Speaker 2: or if you care a lot and try to change
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you're gonna be a mess.
Speaker 3: You genuinely can't care. At some point you can get
Speaker 3: your feeling shirt anymore, or you will never get out
Speaker 3: of bed. You would never be on TV if you
Speaker 3: if you have thin skin, you just you can't do
Speaker 3: the job. You cannot do the job because it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if you're talking about, you know, a quadruple murder
Speaker 3: last night, you will still get emails and comments that
Speaker 3: people think your eyebrows are too dark?
Speaker 1: Right, what's the worst thing?
Speaker 2: Somebody said it? Like literally, like wow, that that's stung.
Speaker 4: That hurt? What is it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: You name it?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the worst.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean everything. I mean everything. I mean my hair
Speaker 3: is too short, it's too blonde, it's too dark, it's
Speaker 3: too long, my eyebrows, my ears, my nose, my lipstick, clothing,
Speaker 3: you know, height, weight, old, you know everything. However, I mean,
Speaker 3: I really want to point out there's just there's so
Speaker 3: many more positive people. There really are people. People stop
Speaker 3: me all the time and they're great. You know, there
Speaker 3: are there are negative people. But but they don't run.
Speaker 3: They don't run me. They'll never ruin my life. They
Speaker 3: you know, they just don't. But I will tell you this.
Speaker 3: You know, when you make a social media post. I
Speaker 3: hate the feeling when you go to bed and you
Speaker 3: think that's struck a nerve and you're always having that
Speaker 3: feeling like you're waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Speaker 3: I hate that feeling. It hurts my stomach. I hate that,
Speaker 3: so I try not to make those posts. And even
Speaker 3: when I make a post about something that was going on,
Speaker 3: can say like the downtown brawl, I will get these
Speaker 3: comments and threats and all I'm doing is my job.
Speaker 3: All I'm doing is telling you about the news, and
Speaker 3: that hurts my heart. I hate that. I would much
Speaker 3: rather be told I'm ugly or I'm old, other than
Speaker 3: getting like a death threat for doing the news.
Speaker 2: You understand I'm saying, yeah, yeah, But you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: you work really hard at staying in shape and being invited,
Speaker 2: and it's like you don't get credit for that. People
Speaker 2: are jealous of that. Well you you know what, you
Speaker 2: busting your ass. They're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am. I mean I sleep like
Speaker 3: four or five hours because I have to make time
Speaker 3: to get in the gym every day. I eat well,
Speaker 3: take care of myself, and you get hate for it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I get a lot of love too.
Speaker 3: I have to keep thinking about that. I mean, look
Speaker 3: at you. I mean, I'm on your show today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does is it any worse than that? If you know,
Speaker 2: if this, if the criticism then't sucked before now being
Speaker 2: on my show, for God's sake, It's just it's not
Speaker 2: how you this now you just start the back half
Speaker 2: of the weak woman.
Speaker 3: This as long as coming him doesn't call me.
Speaker 2: Today, well that creep. I think Willie's he's had vacation,
Speaker 2: I think all months. So I think you're I think you're.
Speaker 3: Broadcast broadcast in Florida now the good Life.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the thing is when people don't know about this.
Speaker 2: He actually died in nineteen ninety two, and this is ai.
Speaker 2: It's just where were running and using his voice and likeness,
Speaker 2: and even though we say, you know, it's guaranteed human,
Speaker 2: you know Willie is, it's it's unwraun Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Willy's coming back actually a couple of weeks here, so Breg,
Speaker 2: you know what you like us. We spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time doing this, and he's been a little business,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot longer than we have. You amass
Speaker 2: a lot of vacation days you needed to to get
Speaker 2: you know, to to check out. Absolutely deserves it. Tricia Mackie,
Speaker 2: of course, anchored Fox nineteen. I guess pulling the curtain
Speaker 2: back here and saying, listen, I'm going to clap back
Speaker 2: at people who are trolling me about dressing my age.
Speaker 2: And you're too old to being wearing a leather and
Speaker 2: you look unprofessionally. Your hair's too short, your hair's too long,
Speaker 2: your outfits are terrible. It's just, you know, you think
Speaker 2: social media is bad for kids and people, it's far
Speaker 2: worse for someone like Tricia. And I said, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there is a double standard when it comes to
Speaker 2: mat or maybe men just don't don't care about this stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think you're the only one who's actually said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to address this issue in
Speaker 2: a reel. It's on Facebook and our social feeds, so
Speaker 2: check that out. It was kind of yeah, it was good,
Speaker 2: but it was great though. I thought, Wow, it's about
Speaker 2: time somebody said this. Yeah, especially since in the contextas
Speaker 2: of Annah Guthry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Scott, you think about like everybody that does
Speaker 3: everything for a living, I mean, you know, a CEO,
Speaker 3: a clerk, I mean anything in between, right at any job. Yeah,
Speaker 3: are they constantly all day long being told and scrutinized
Speaker 3: about what they look like, what they wear, or or
Speaker 3: how they do their job? I mean, by the mass
Speaker 3: and bite thousands of people they're not. It's a hard
Speaker 3: job to do it. I mean, it's putting up with
Speaker 3: with the hate comments. You know, it gets to a
Speaker 3: point where you have to just either quit your job
Speaker 3: and move away or you have to just face it.
Speaker 2: Well, look at these poor people. That the guy who
Speaker 2: owns that furniture store I remember because it's the guy
Speaker 2: in Tennessee or whatever put some comments up and they
Speaker 2: docked him. But then they thought it was a guy
Speaker 2: in Kentucky locally. It's like, what, we're in the same
Speaker 2: name store. It's not. We have nothing to do with this,
Speaker 2: and this guy is his life is completely upend and
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nuts, man.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, It is crazy, all right, Tricia mackew Fox nineteen.
Speaker 2: Later on today, I appreciate you get up early in
Speaker 2: chatting with me, and good for you. Good you know what,
Speaker 2: good for you you show him? Uch Man, good job,
Speaker 2: good job.
Speaker 3: I'm I might clap back at you today later.
Speaker 2: Oh man, she now I gave her too much ammunition
Speaker 2: here or is the thing? But you know what I
Speaker 2: would I wouldn't care there you go, it rolls up
Speaker 2: there like whatever. It's like, okay, fine, hey, all the
Speaker 2: best friends.
Speaker 3: I think we all felt like that it'd be a
Speaker 3: better place.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for joining the show. I appreciate you,
Speaker 2: all right, take care they go Tricia Mackie on the
Speaker 2: show on Fox nineteen and yeah, it's not just kids,
Speaker 2: and we're trying to create these laws like in Kentucky
Speaker 2: age verification. That's all common sense stuff. But adults are
Speaker 2: I think, can be far worse than kids sometimes for real.
Speaker 2: Scott's Sloan Show will talk about the state of the
Speaker 2: Union and what happened last night that I think some
Speaker 2: people are getting wrong because we live in a state
Speaker 2: where everything is polarized. Rather that's a state of mind
Speaker 2: these days. We'll talk about that coming up next afternoons
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WW this is scott'slone show, seven hundred
Speaker 2: w alwit just that's kind of I think it was
Speaker 2: a good conversation Tricia Mackie. Something that's just went viral
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, and I was looking at her numbers
Speaker 2: and man, it just really took off, and you know,
Speaker 2: just the social media. The problem we all have with
Speaker 2: social media. It's great is you can stay connected with
Speaker 2: folks and learn stuff and see new ideas or have
Speaker 2: your beliefs validated wherever it might be. We know the
Speaker 2: algorithm does that. But you know the idea that there
Speaker 2: are people out there, and I don't know how many
Speaker 2: these are bots or trolled, but yeah, people trolling other
Speaker 2: folks like I just I you just picture something us
Speaker 2: sitting there in their pajamas, who's not really happy with
Speaker 2: their life, just taking shots of folks because you can
Speaker 2: get away with it and you don't know who they are.
Speaker 2: So I'm good for her for taking a stand for sure. Anyway,
Speaker 2: other stuff going on. I know, if you know this,
Speaker 2: there's a State of the Union address last night, and
Speaker 2: I believe the President is just wrapping up wrapping up
Speaker 2: with Scott Its minutes ago. That was long. I couldn't
Speaker 2: make it through the whole thing. I know about you.
Speaker 2: I went back and watched like the last twenty thirty
Speaker 2: minutes of it this morning, just because I know it's
Speaker 2: going to wind up talking about it too. But I
Speaker 2: think the highlight of the whole thing was an actual
Speaker 2: moment of unity, which is really really rare that the
Speaker 2: Democrats stood up and applauded. So, you know, something weird
Speaker 2: was going on. Where twenty twenty five US men's hockey
Speaker 2: team members were at the State of the Union last night.
Speaker 2: I like it was at the beginning of it. I
Speaker 2: thought that was great. There are five players who missed it,
Speaker 2: and of course the question as well, they're making a
Speaker 2: political statement. No, they simply chose to get back to practice.
Speaker 2: The NHL season resumes today as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: and so there's very little time. Each member of the
Speaker 2: US men's hockey team essentially has to get approval from
Speaker 2: their home club to to have gone to the State
Speaker 2: of the Union and say, hey, you know, we need
Speaker 2: you back here. We're in a Stanley Cup chase. We've
Speaker 2: got twenty five games left roughly, and we're going to
Speaker 2: make a push. And so the five players that did
Speaker 2: are in that fight right now, and including you know,
Speaker 2: I thought it was cool that Connor Hellibuk was there
Speaker 2: from Winnipeg, so that's a bit of a trip for him.
Speaker 2: But you know, taking that victory lap and how many
Speaker 2: more times you're gonna be able to or how is
Speaker 2: it going to ever happen again in your life where
Speaker 2: you get to do what they did last night. I
Speaker 2: thought that was really cool. I know that like everything
Speaker 2: in politics and especially in life today, everything is polarizing.
Speaker 2: You're on either one side or the other. And some
Speaker 2: of the comments about the US men's hockey team being
Speaker 2: there last night of the State and the State of
Speaker 2: the Union that somehow they they you know, the feel
Speaker 2: on this the take and it's not just one person,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of people feel like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: they align themselves with Trump and you know, they laughed
Speaker 2: as this misogenic joke and they're partying with Kesh Patel
Speaker 2: and the State of the Union and they turned their
Speaker 2: gold medal triumph into partisan politics and today's climate, you know,
Speaker 2: you are now have a hand in the Trump regime
Speaker 2: and all this. You've got to read the room and
Speaker 2: you should be above this. Sole thing is shut the
Speaker 2: hell up, you know, and he's be able to do this,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, are doing exactly what they're criticizing the
Speaker 2: idea that the team, the US hockey team politicized the moment.
Speaker 2: But anyone who says this, you're politicizing the moment the
Speaker 2: team won a gold medal. It's full stop. Yeah, taking
Speaker 2: a call from a president in a locker room is
Speaker 2: not a political association or political act. I mean, since
Speaker 2: teams have been professional champions are not even professional college
Speaker 2: team championship teams have visited the White House, they if
Speaker 2: accepted congratulations from presidents across party lines for decades. I
Speaker 2: don't know why are we because they won the gold
Speaker 2: medal holding them to wait some sort of weird standard
Speaker 2: out because they're so polarized. That's not their fault. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're born into the times, right, you don't get to
Speaker 2: choose what eras you live in. And they won a
Speaker 2: gold medal and had every right and should have gone there.
Speaker 2: You know, the the the political calculator, like somehow the
Speaker 2: athletes are doing the political calculus on this is insane.
Speaker 2: You've got to be more savvy. You've got to be
Speaker 2: savvy about your the opstacle. That why you're asking them
Speaker 2: to be political when clearly they're not a sign and
Speaker 2: you're you know, you're assigning this responsibility to the wrong party.
Speaker 2: It's not in the US hockey team. And the fact
Speaker 2: of the matter is, if we can't be happy for
Speaker 2: a few days about winning two gold medals in hockey
Speaker 2: without becoming some sort of culture war flash point. I
Speaker 2: I you know, now we're going to manage how we
Speaker 2: celebrate winning a gold medal. I mean, and I don't
Speaker 2: think did we really lose unity over this because I
Speaker 2: didn't feel that last night. I think maybe, deep down inside,
Speaker 2: what you're really mad about is the fact that Trump
Speaker 2: gets the benefit from that association. And that may be
Speaker 2: a legitimate political concern, but that's what politicians do. They
Speaker 2: exploit on the hypoinds, and Trump did a masterful job
Speaker 2: of that. I think last night. Regards to what you
Speaker 2: think over all of the speech, which you'll get into
Speaker 2: a little bit later on, I don't think that should
Speaker 2: at all be going through the heads of these athletes, like, well,
Speaker 2: what about the political association that they're living in the moment.
Speaker 2: They're probably still drunk, quite honestly, with the gold medal.
Speaker 2: They got on a plane, they spent all night partying
Speaker 2: in Miami and then were flown up in military aircraft
Speaker 2: to Washington for the State of the Union. So these
Speaker 2: guys are probably they're still hammered. I know hockey players
Speaker 2: pretty well. I bet a lot of the guys are
Speaker 2: still they're still up, they're still hammered, having a great time.
Speaker 2: And I know the US women's team couldn't make it.
Speaker 2: And everyone said, oh, they're making a political statement. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well no, they said, listen, we have academic obligations. We
Speaker 2: also have professor wants too, because we play hockey, and
Speaker 2: you know, we ramp right back up. So and I'm
Speaker 2: sure there are members of each team and maybe one
Speaker 2: of the you know, a few of the five or
Speaker 2: one of the five that the men didn't show up,
Speaker 2: or the women that didn't want to do that because
Speaker 2: they're not a fan. But I'll tell you what, I
Speaker 2: don't care who the president was. It was Trump, it
Speaker 2: was Biden, it was Obama, it was Clinton, it was Bush,
Speaker 2: it was Ray. If if I had an opportunity and
Speaker 2: I were invited to the State of the Union, regardless
Speaker 2: of who is the president, I would go in a second,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. I sure as hell would. And it's not
Speaker 2: about the office holder. It's about the office. It's about
Speaker 2: the It's about this moment in time. I mean, you
Speaker 2: get a chance to go to the invited and recognize
Speaker 2: that the State of the Union address. I don't care
Speaker 2: who the president is. I would do that one hundred
Speaker 2: times out of one hundred for that experience. And I
Speaker 2: think if he said no, well I would only do it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that for that. That says more about
Speaker 2: you than the whole Thing's that's pretty cool. It would
Speaker 2: be pretty cool to go to a State of the year, right,
Speaker 2: That would definitely check a lot of boxes. Let alone
Speaker 2: be recognized and Trump and his theatrics, which was I
Speaker 2: mean a lot of this stuff's theatrical, you know, recognizing
Speaker 2: individual success stories and aligning himself with that and recognizing
Speaker 2: people throughout the state of the Union. I think in
Speaker 2: the future it used to just be, oh, we've got
Speaker 2: this person here, this person, but you know, he's awarding
Speaker 2: medals and purple hearts and all these wonderful accolades, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of like there's a little theater and then
Speaker 2: Trump's really really good at that. But overall, and we'll
Speaker 2: get into this a little bit more later in the show.
Speaker 2: This might actually at the ten o six Kevin Burton's upholster.
Speaker 2: And the question though, is did Trump sell his message
Speaker 2: last night? Now? Personally? You know, he covered a lot
Speaker 2: of ground covered a lot of things, and is all
Speaker 2: the presidents before him have to took some liberties with
Speaker 2: the truth, with the facts. All presidents do that to
Speaker 2: some degree, and that's part of the state of the union.
Speaker 2: It's more like an infomercial for the past year in
Speaker 2: the year head an in for martial that it is.
Speaker 2: But I thought in this time now and if you may,
Speaker 2: if you don't believe the poll numbers, then that doesn't
Speaker 2: apply to you. But if you look at the polling,
Speaker 2: go it's got some I've got a lot of problems here.
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it going and this is
Speaker 2: just part of who he is. I think we've talked
Speaker 2: about that lack of empathy and things. You know, he's
Speaker 2: trying really really hard to just convince the American people
Speaker 2: that this is the greatest thing ever, that we are winning,
Speaker 2: winning all the time. And you know, the reality is
Speaker 2: you see it for yourself. It's in your own reality.
Speaker 2: If you go to a store and go, wow, everything's
Speaker 2: really expensive, you know again, you're you're it's your pocketbook,
Speaker 2: it's your personal ecosystem of your economy, and that that
Speaker 2: little world we each individually have as opposed to the
Speaker 2: economy a whole and Wall Street I don't care about that.
Speaker 2: How do you feel You got money in your bank account,
Speaker 2: you got money to spend? Are you cutting corners? Are
Speaker 2: you doing Are you better off today than you were
Speaker 2: a year or two or four years ago. That's always
Speaker 2: been the age old question when it comes to the
Speaker 2: state of union in politics, how do you feel about
Speaker 2: the economy? That's a number one issue for America's number
Speaker 2: one issue economy. Now, if we're under attack of a war,
Speaker 2: different story. But for most of my life, almost every
Speaker 2: single state of the unit, it's been about the economy
Speaker 2: and our own personal finances. And I think the thing is,
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't do this, but you know, if you
Speaker 2: would listen, it's like, Okay, all these great things you
Speaker 2: did that don't get the attention they should because they're
Speaker 2: overshadowed by well, you may say, you know, the media
Speaker 2: buyas and things, but also I mean Trump throws a
Speaker 2: lot out there, and when he does and says us
Speaker 2: audacious things, it tends to overshadow the accomplishments. In that regard,
Speaker 2: I think you can agree a lot of times he
Speaker 2: could be his own worst enemy because the noise overshadows
Speaker 2: the accomplishments. And so last night I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: tell me, hey, listen, we know it sucks right now,
Speaker 2: but we're starting to see the light. We're starting to
Speaker 2: make these changes, and here's what's going to happen on
Speaker 2: the next year's and you know, give me here's some
Speaker 2: mile posts to look at in the upcoming year. This
Speaker 2: is our plan. This is what we're doing. And it's hard.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're hopefully we're getting out of the We're
Speaker 2: getting out of that fog. We're starting to see the
Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel. I think I
Speaker 2: would rather hear that than we're winning. Everything is great.
Speaker 2: It's the greatest economy ever. This is the greatest thing.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's great. It's great. For a lot of Americans,
Speaker 2: it's not. And I also think too, the people that
Speaker 2: I know that are like absolutely one hundred percent down
Speaker 2: with it have enough money to not notice the price
Speaker 2: of I don't know, beef is up a couple bucks
Speaker 2: right or I had someone on yesterday the cost of
Speaker 2: a new car for the first time in history, the
Speaker 2: awful lot price for average car price average now it's
Speaker 2: average is over fifty thousand dollars. I mean, a few
Speaker 2: years ago, like, wow, the average price was it like
Speaker 2: thirty grand and now it's fifty. If you have money,
Speaker 2: if you have means, you don't feel it as much
Speaker 2: obviously someone who doesn't, and so you tend to be
Speaker 2: a little insulated from them. That's the truth. And of
Speaker 2: course if you're way down to the lower end too,
Speaker 2: it's like I'll never get out of this hole. I
Speaker 2: feel that especially. That's true for younger people as well.
Speaker 2: But I think last night I've preferred the president to
Speaker 2: have that, to try to have that take. It's like, tell, okay,
Speaker 2: just admit, hey, listen there. I know you're still feeling
Speaker 2: the pain, but that's a lagging indicator. Okay, here's the
Speaker 2: progress we're seeing with tariffs or whatever. Sell me on
Speaker 2: the next six, nine or twelve week months ahead, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I see, okay, it's starting to turn, right,
Speaker 2: Is it starting to turn? Rather than just no, it's
Speaker 2: the greatest thing ever, because I don't think people you know,
Speaker 2: some people do, but there are a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't believe that. I don't think that helps the cause.
Speaker 2: But that's my take. I got pollsters come out, we'll
Speaker 2: talk Iran that was the big thing that was kind
Speaker 2: of buried late and talking to some experts about Iran
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, and we'll have an eleven
Speaker 2: oh six Mark and Silaco for the University of Dayton,
Speaker 2: who's a Middle Eastern terrorism and Middle East expert. As
Speaker 2: we ramp up forces in the Middle East in the
Speaker 2: next twenty four to forty eight seventy two hours, we'll
Speaker 2: have a better picture. Trump said last night, we preferred diplomacy,
Speaker 2: but not afraid to bring the stick, and we saw
Speaker 2: what happened in Venezuela. Will the President launch and authorize
Speaker 2: attacks on Iran? And what the hell does that mean exactly?
Speaker 2: Because you know, the concern over them having intercontinental ballistic
Speaker 2: missiles or striking our assets in the Middle East is
Speaker 2: very real, But I'm more worried about a terror attack
Speaker 2: because that's a much lower barred across. It's easier to
Speaker 2: commit an active terror than it is to attack assets
Speaker 2: in the Middle East or launch a missile for that matter,
Speaker 2: which they probably don't have. So that's coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit later on as well on seven hundred w
Speaker 2: do But hey, real quick, let me get to a
Speaker 2: bill on the show here. Want to check on the
Speaker 2: state of union real quick. Bill, it's up.
Speaker 5: Ah, thank you sir for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling.
Speaker 5: And the thing I'm a people watch. I love watching
Speaker 5: that audience, their response and everything that Trump has.
Speaker 6: Put up positive.
Speaker 5: The Democrats they're sitting there on their hands like they
Speaker 5: want to go back to where it was miserable. I mean,
Speaker 5: I was astound to watch this. Them'm sitting there they
Speaker 5: want to go back when we're all happy and wanting
Speaker 5: to go forward. Can you please can you help me out?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 5: Bill?
Speaker 4: Bill?
Speaker 2: Is this the first Is this the first date of
Speaker 2: the Union you've watched? Because all the ones I watch
Speaker 2: usually that's the case. If there's a if Biden's in office,
Speaker 2: the Republicans sit on their hands.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: If it's a Republican in charge. The Democrats that are
Speaker 2: that that's the game, because you know, just the act
Speaker 2: of them applauding along is like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: that we're acknowledging they're doing a good job, and that
Speaker 2: could be you know, that threatens their existence when it's Democrats,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's part of what I did.
Speaker 2: I did notice. I will say that Elizabeth Warren did
Speaker 2: applaud when they were talking about some of the you know,
Speaker 2: some of the policy issues in favor of which is
Speaker 2: kind of refreshing. But behind it, you know, I saw
Speaker 2: a lot of people and sitting on their hands when
Speaker 2: the when the Olympic team was out there, For God's sake,
Speaker 2: how could he not applaud for the American athletes? For
Speaker 2: God's sake, that's terrible.
Speaker 5: I want to say one one thing too, and what
Speaker 5: you just said that with who's ever and all the
Speaker 5: other one's going to sit on their hand? Okay, I
Speaker 5: give you that. That's that's but when it comes to
Speaker 5: a time when you have to put your things aside
Speaker 5: and do what's right for the agenda of the future
Speaker 5: of America, there's a difference. There's things going so.
Speaker 1: Well that they won't even.
Speaker 5: Announce what look Trump is doing well. They won't even
Speaker 5: get off their spine and say, yeah, he's doing some
Speaker 5: good things. Where were we We had the chance to
Speaker 5: do all this and we did nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, the border wud be the big one there right.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: And the drugs and the drugs and the drugs.
Speaker 5: You know, when they had their they had their perfect
Speaker 5: upportunity to turn it all around Trump saying he give
Speaker 5: me the chance, I will do it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Now they're still doing the same thing. They want to
Speaker 5: go back to all these delagrants coming back in here, Democrats.
Speaker 5: You want to come back to everybody doing drugs or
Speaker 5: sitting all y'all want to go back to all that
Speaker 5: negative when we're looking at the future.
Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure that people are still doing drugs. I don't know,
Speaker 2: if you know. The fentanyl crossing the border is one thing,
Speaker 2: but again there's if there's so much fentanyl cross a
Speaker 2: crossing the border, there's enough for well with, but there's
Speaker 2: enough to kill everybody at this point. So I don't
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's our taste for drugs that
Speaker 2: fuels that, right. I mean, you can crack down a
Speaker 2: fentanyl like, but again, there's consumer demand for that here
Speaker 2: in the United States. I don't know how you address
Speaker 2: that without poisoning the whole country. But you know, look
Speaker 2: at the cartel wars. The whole reason the cartels exist
Speaker 2: because of us.
Speaker 5: It's very simple, it's very simple. Cracked down, no gray area,
Speaker 5: take these people out, take them out, no matter what
Speaker 5: it takes. Take them out have with all this political
Speaker 5: correctness stuff. Always should treat them like no, let's be
Speaker 5: as brought evil, not evil, the goodness over what these
Speaker 5: people are doing to our country. And the Democrats sitting
Speaker 5: there want to go back to a world of that world.
Speaker 5: They're even the Democrats, sir. Even I heard on the thing,
Speaker 5: Democrats would say, okay, enough enough, even the Democrats is
Speaker 5: turning on Democrats.
Speaker 6: That's a good thing for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would say I would say this though
Speaker 2: that you know, there's divisits in the Republican party obviously,
Speaker 2: but I think even more so with the Democrats. But
Speaker 2: they give the drug argument, Yeah, can we you know,
Speaker 2: open borders is a problem. Are you're going to have
Speaker 2: you know, the cartels are still getting stuff in the
Speaker 2: country because yeah, as a day, and Democrats maybe want
Speaker 2: to look the other way. Republicans are tougher on crime,
Speaker 2: for sure, then Democrats are in that regard. Not everybody's
Speaker 2: a victim. But I'll say it's it's our thirst for drugs.
Speaker 2: It drives this whole thing. And you can talk about
Speaker 2: your Democrats and Republicans, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's your neighbor. It's your cowork or someone going. You know,
Speaker 2: they like using drugs. And it's not just you know,
Speaker 2: just people of who are poor or on the street.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in the penthouses as well as the slums.
Speaker 2: And it's it's our demand for drugs and illegal drugs
Speaker 2: that are driving this thing. And it always has been,
Speaker 2: always will and that's why you know, we can attack
Speaker 2: them below, but they're going to replace by another car.
Speaker 2: Teil member. I mean, you look at the map of Mexico.
Speaker 2: It's it's not troubling. It's sickening how much the cart
Speaker 2: controls that country, But most of it has to do
Speaker 2: with us. If the demand goes away, there's no need
Speaker 2: for them. How do you fix that problem? Scott's Loan
Speaker 2: Home of the Red seven hundred WWT Cincinnati, Scott's Slumshell.
Speaker 2: This is seven hundred w go out every course. The
Speaker 2: big story State of Union last night. Trump covered a
Speaker 2: lot in his record one hundred and eight minute State
Speaker 2: of the Union address last night. We had gold medalists,
Speaker 2: we had military heroes, we had these emotional moments to
Speaker 2: argue his first year back in the White House has
Speaker 2: been a triumph. So two thirds of people who watched
Speaker 2: that last night. All are in part it resonated with them,
Speaker 2: seemed to be acted positively about a little more than
Speaker 2: the third said it was fantastic. At the same time,
Speaker 2: this had odds with other polls prior to the State
Speaker 2: of the Union that show him underwater, like six and
Speaker 2: ten voters disapprove of how the President is handling things.
Speaker 2: So it's not about them, it's about you. How much
Speaker 2: of the State of the Union messaging are you buying?
Speaker 2: It's a simple question. Joining the show this morning to
Speaker 2: discuss and how this hit is our buddy Kevin Burton,
Speaker 2: Kevin of course with Crosstown Consulting, Political Strategus and pollster.
Speaker 1: Kevin, welcome, thanks for having me, Scott.
Speaker 2: All right, so we all know, so if you've seen
Speaker 2: a State of the Union, you've seen one. You've seen
Speaker 2: them all usually and it's a lot of theater, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of pomp and circumstance. It's also a lot
Speaker 2: of infomercial But this one, because of that, you know,
Speaker 2: two thirds of people said, yeah, it was a pretty
Speaker 2: good message, it was awesome, and then you look at
Speaker 2: the polling numbers and if you believe these things, but
Speaker 2: that's the only yardstick we have to measure this at
Speaker 2: this point other than when we go to the polls
Speaker 2: is six and ten Americans think well, we're heading the
Speaker 2: wrong direction. He's not doing a good job. So I
Speaker 2: look at this, The question was, in your opinion as
Speaker 2: a polster and someone who's at political analyst, did he
Speaker 2: hit on the points he needed to hit on last night?
Speaker 9: So what he did really well was he wanted to
Speaker 9: just keep making sure And the one thing that Trump
Speaker 9: is so good at and DEM's have never been able
Speaker 9: to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Is he the master of kind of I don't.
Speaker 9: Want to say manipulation, but just controlling the narrative. So
Speaker 9: he did a really good job in that. But at
Speaker 9: the end of the day, you know, it's a dog
Speaker 9: and pony show. It is, say the Union, I don't
Speaker 9: care who it is, yep. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 9: be more temporary that you know, people are gonna say,
Speaker 9: oh yeah, this looks good. Affordability we heard that a
Speaker 9: lot last night. Affordability is going to continuing to be
Speaker 9: the number one issue. The one thing that Trump's doing
Speaker 9: is very similar to what Biden did is keep reiterating
Speaker 9: the stock market in four oh one case, but there's
Speaker 9: a lot of Americans who don't have that. So affordability
Speaker 9: is going to be the number one issue from now
Speaker 9: till November.
Speaker 2: But he kind of dismissed that during the speech. He
Speaker 2: touched on it briefly about that. You know, he doesn't
Speaker 2: believe it's true. It's a it's a it's a fabricated word,
Speaker 2: that affordability. No one's talking about affordability. Affordability. The way
Speaker 2: I kind of frame that is, it depends where you are.
Speaker 2: If you're someone who has means, if you have money
Speaker 2: because of your hard work, your effort, or for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: You know, the price of beef going up, for example,
Speaker 2: that's thing we all identify with, like it doesn't affect
Speaker 2: you as much as it could be two dollars a
Speaker 2: pound and could be ten dollars upon okay, so what
Speaker 2: But of course then there's a working folk too, where
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're pinching pennies, cutting coupons and trying
Speaker 2: to save and maybe forgoing that as well. Just it
Speaker 2: depends on who's receiving the message exactly. It's just like
Speaker 2: gas prices.
Speaker 9: For some people, it's like okay, so instead of you know,
Speaker 9: going out to dinner tonight, you know, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Ruby's you go to outback.
Speaker 9: But remember the folks who propelled him to this victory
Speaker 9: were people who it was all about the economy, especially
Speaker 9: in those rough belt states. So you're seeing that their
Speaker 9: poll numbers are showing that there is a concern of
Speaker 9: economic disapproval up until last night. So now you got
Speaker 9: to see do they carry this momentum for the next
Speaker 9: you know, six months or was this a flash in
Speaker 9: the pan. Like I said, Trump, the one thing Trump
Speaker 9: does better than probably any politician ever is controlling the narrative.
Speaker 9: It was a performance. It was the ultimate reality show
Speaker 9: last night, and he just and the problem is Trump
Speaker 9: is just Trump. There's no one else besides him.
Speaker 1: Who can do that.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: So, you know, the state of the Union is a
Speaker 1: long ways away, so it was gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: I think one of the high moments, if we want
Speaker 9: to talk about that, was when he talked about the
Speaker 9: insider trading, and even Democrats clapped, and it was a
Speaker 9: good clap back about Nancy Pelosi. I think we can
Speaker 9: all agree that we don't want our congress people insider trading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some good shots, and you expect. I mean,
Speaker 2: most State of the unions are kind of boring by design.
Speaker 2: It's more about the pomp than what's actually happening. More
Speaker 2: you know, more fluffing. But you know, you're kind of
Speaker 2: waiting for Trump zingers to come out, and he came
Speaker 2: out with a few good ones. I thought the Nancy
Speaker 2: Pelosi thing was fantastic myself, but you know, it's an
Speaker 2: economy versus kitchen table isshes we talked about, and I think,
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the poll numbers to suggest
Speaker 2: that he's underwater, but two thirds of people watch this
Speaker 2: and thirty six that people watch it for that matter,
Speaker 2: thought it was the greatest speech ever. Two thirds said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty positive. Does that actually translate though,
Speaker 2: to turning his numbers around in the long.
Speaker 9: Term, Well, but sir, the thirty six percent is his
Speaker 9: approval rating is roughly, you know, give or take about
Speaker 9: thirty eight forty percent.
Speaker 1: So that's right in line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: The one thing that Trump said that he knew better
Speaker 9: than anyone. I guess it's twelve years ago, is he
Speaker 9: knew his supporters when he said I could shoot someone
Speaker 9: on Fifth Avenue, and that was like he knows his
Speaker 9: base one hundred percent. The other forty percent are Democrats.
Speaker 9: No matter what he does, it's they're not going to
Speaker 9: support him. So at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 9: all about those independence foods on the middle and that's
Speaker 9: and you know, it's that ten to fifteen percent in
Speaker 9: every election that sways the pendulum, you know, and that's
Speaker 9: who both sides are going to be targeting. You know,
Speaker 9: there was one interesting thing that I saw about the
Speaker 9: economy is that one third blames Trump, one third lanes didn't,
Speaker 9: and one third doesn't trust either.
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good representation.
Speaker 2: Of American right. That's about right. It's so just so fractious,
Speaker 2: and it's evenly divided, and that's why that's why it
Speaker 2: feels the way it does today. I think too presents
Speaker 2: often do this. You know, somebody will go in fact
Speaker 2: check and I'll look at some of the fact checks, and
Speaker 2: there are multiple claims in the speech that you know,
Speaker 2: gas prices, job numbers, drug numbers, tariffs, the economy of
Speaker 2: the tariffs, and in your experience of the fact checks,
Speaker 2: move numbers or uh, does it resonate with with people
Speaker 2: that that that's factually an accurate.
Speaker 9: No, I mean every every president in our lifetime has
Speaker 9: promised the moon, you know, or going to Mahers in
Speaker 9: the State of the Union. In reality, it's a you know,
Speaker 9: it's a flash in the pan and then the.
Speaker 1: Numbers come back down.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean people kind of get you know,
Speaker 9: the State of the Union is what you want to happen.
Speaker 2: But there's also the of breadlock and watching them and
Speaker 2: with the fact midterms are fast approaching, and we know
Speaker 2: how midterms are for the incumbent. It's not good. And
Speaker 2: you know another thing that Trump's does better than anybody
Speaker 2: else is the stagecraft. Right, So yeah, the hockey team,
Speaker 2: you had the Venezuelan political prisoner reunion, handing out medals
Speaker 2: of honor, right, metal monor guys, and we're giving we're
Speaker 2: decorating soldiers and first responders. And he's always been a
Speaker 2: master of the made for TV moment. Does that translate?
Speaker 2: How much of that translates to compensate for those pulling numbers?
Speaker 2: And did it land with audiences outside the chamber? I
Speaker 2: think it did.
Speaker 9: I mean that's why he's president. You know, it literally
Speaker 9: looked like a Netflix made for documentary, like a you know,
Speaker 9: a show about as say, of a union. The one
Speaker 9: thing that Trump understands better than anyone is marketing. He
Speaker 9: gets how to craft the message and craft the appearance
Speaker 9: because I mean, he was on TV for thirty years.
Speaker 9: In reality he was the first real reality TV star
Speaker 9: America had, and so he understands optics better than anyone. Now,
Speaker 9: the question is, it's a long ways away the election,
Speaker 9: and you're not going to have another really chance like
Speaker 9: this to get as many viewers on so that they have,
Speaker 9: you know, seven eight months to kind of craft their message,
Speaker 9: which you know they're going with the economies high the
Speaker 9: four oh one ks are good. But it all goes
Speaker 9: back to it's kind of like when you're doing a
Speaker 9: primary vote. If people's lives are good, generally speaking, they
Speaker 9: don't turn out for primaries. It's the people who are
Speaker 9: the most effective and who are passionate who will get
Speaker 9: out and vote. So like, if you work at fidelity
Speaker 9: in life's good and I don't, if you know you're
Speaker 9: middle of the road on either side, you're probably not
Speaker 9: going to vote in the primary. But if you know
Speaker 9: you're worried about milk prices, you're going to get out
Speaker 9: and vote because it's really affecting you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or tax implications like that they're going to crack
Speaker 2: a Democrat's going to destroy them with tech, You're going
Speaker 2: to get out of the vote. It's going to motivate you.
Speaker 2: In that context though, Kevin, midterm framing. This is from
Speaker 2: the midterm elections coming up. As I mentioned in your
Speaker 2: read of last night, was the primary target audience swing
Speaker 2: voters who might be persuadable. Was it the Republican base
Speaker 2: and he's energizing or Democrats that Trump's he wants to
Speaker 2: put on the defensive because I don't think you can
Speaker 2: do all of that. You can do maybe two of them,
Speaker 2: but probably one of those, which one. I think it's
Speaker 2: all about his base. You know, we saw last November.
Speaker 2: When he is not on the ballot, it's not the same.
Speaker 9: And Trump in his base, he can connect to that
Speaker 9: like no one else can. You know, for Republicans, it's
Speaker 9: simply just turning out their voters, because if they turre
Speaker 9: out their voters at the bare minimum, you know, it's probably.
Speaker 1: Very close to what it is right now.
Speaker 9: You know, at three three feet difference in the House
Speaker 9: on either side, and then maybe a one or two
Speaker 9: different seats in the Senate if they can really turn
Speaker 9: out their base.
Speaker 2: Gotcha. He is Kevin Burton, Crosstown Consulting in Kentucky, Northern
Speaker 2: Kentucky political strategy and pollster breaking down the state of
Speaker 2: the Union last night and what all this means put
Speaker 2: in context, if it moves the needle, and you know,
Speaker 2: there's a stand up moment where Trump and and keep
Speaker 2: in mind too, you know, immigration is Trump's well, was
Speaker 2: Trump's strongest suit. He's kind of slipped on that, but
Speaker 2: he asked legislators to stand if they believe in the
Speaker 2: government's first duties to protect citizens, not illegal aliens. And
Speaker 2: the Democrats who stayed seated, quite a few of them
Speaker 2: became an instant Republican ad was that was a trap
Speaker 2: that was strategically set. It wasn't really organic. How effective
Speaker 2: is that move?
Speaker 9: And i'd sear you good to setting traps because you know,
Speaker 9: was that last year where you know, it was all
Speaker 9: very very heated State of the Union. He just knows
Speaker 9: how to set traps for the Democrats. And you know,
Speaker 9: this has been twelve years, twelve you know, twelve years
Speaker 9: Democrats have not been able to figure him out that
Speaker 9: they just can't that. There's no way of him. You know,
Speaker 9: they just can't understand them. It's almost like trying to
Speaker 9: defend Lebron James.
Speaker 1: You can game plan for it, but when you get
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth, they they are queasy. They don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing right exactly.
Speaker 9: And you know the thing about Trump though, is is
Speaker 9: that his highs are super high, but his lows are
Speaker 9: super low. So if you're the Democrats, you're just waiting
Speaker 9: this out. Let's say he won last night. You got
Speaker 9: nine months, eight months to the general election, and you
Speaker 9: know you're really counting on those ten to fifteen percent
Speaker 9: of the people who really feel the affordability crisis.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think both sides are going to
Speaker 1: be talking about the economy.
Speaker 2: It doesn't help or hurt him when he says, well,
Speaker 2: it's it's fabricated the affordability crisis. There is no such thing. Basically,
Speaker 2: that's kind of you in a nutshell what he said.
Speaker 2: The people buy. That depends if he can turn out.
Speaker 2: It depends if he can turn out as base.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they their.
Speaker 9: Team crafted the perfect political strategy of basically, if we
Speaker 9: get eighty ninety percent of our people. It doesn't matter
Speaker 9: what the Democrats do. That's how they've won two presidential elections.
Speaker 1: So they're banking on that.
Speaker 2: And the parties are so far apart ideology from an
Speaker 2: ideological standpoint that you know, you look at Okay, well,
Speaker 2: even if you go, well, I don't think the tru
Speaker 2: it's the tariffs, it's not working, and then there's an
Speaker 2: affordable crisis. But then you turn towards the Democrats and
Speaker 2: I look at people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders
Speaker 2: and AOC and go, well, their ideas are going to
Speaker 2: be far worse. I guess I got to stick with
Speaker 2: this guy.
Speaker 9: Is that the reality, And that's the thing where you
Speaker 9: know they have Democrats have not been able to find
Speaker 9: a method to stick on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: They just haven't in a lot of ways.
Speaker 9: It's similar to when Obama was in office, Republicans couldn't
Speaker 9: figure out a message to get him to lose an election.
Speaker 9: And that's why they're both presidents. They understand the whims
Speaker 9: of the general public. So you know, for the Democrats,
Speaker 9: they've been trying for years to try to craft the
Speaker 9: perfect message against Donald Trump. But the problem is he
Speaker 9: spent thirty He sent his whole adult life in front
Speaker 9: of the camera. So he understands entertainment, He understands narrative.
Speaker 9: He understands how to craft a message. And it's something
Speaker 9: that you know, a DC consultant can't craft when you're
Speaker 9: when a camera is in front of you.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to spend it. In a
Speaker 1: lot of politicians camp.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of hackling. We saw l Green
Speaker 2: with his sign. He got pulled. Clay shouted most corrupt President,
Speaker 2: and he responded by saying, these people are crazy, which
Speaker 2: I'm laugh out loud. Does that out does that dry
Speaker 2: to outrage helped Trump or heard him? Is there a
Speaker 2: version where the party they didn't learn from last the
Speaker 2: mistakes they did last time because that kind of backfired
Speaker 2: on them last time.
Speaker 9: Yes, and though I mean, you know it's so far away,
Speaker 9: but it did backfire.
Speaker 1: On him last time.
Speaker 9: But you know, we got nine months. I would I
Speaker 9: wouldn't read too much into that. You know, it's all
Speaker 9: gonna come down to the economy and the terriffs.
Speaker 2: On the teriff thing. The Supreme Court struck that down
Speaker 2: just a few days before the speech. Last night, he
Speaker 2: called it an unfortunate ruling. He said, we're going to
Speaker 2: keep it going through alternative means, and experts are saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna be able to do that either.
Speaker 2: Those will also be struck out as illegal. To someone
Speaker 2: who's watching at home worried about the price is that
Speaker 2: land or did it look like he was kind of
Speaker 2: back on the seals a little bit scrambling, because yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess the way to look at it is you
Speaker 2: look at the president, you look at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: Hu too, Americans strusts more.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 9: And his disapproval of the surme Court was very measured.
Speaker 9: It wasn't like him when he was lashing out on
Speaker 9: the Democrats. So I don't know if you noticed that,
Speaker 9: but it was a very measured and uh soft.
Speaker 1: Criticism of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a lot stronger true social than he
Speaker 2: was last night.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know.
Speaker 9: And that's also just the changing of politics where Democrats
Speaker 9: has been really slow to understand. Trolling is a part
Speaker 9: of social media and Trump does it better than anyone.
Speaker 9: And there's been a lot of times where he trolls,
Speaker 9: but when push comes to shove, he'll he'll come back
Speaker 9: to a more reasonable approach, and he's a great rage
Speaker 9: baier against Democrats. They just don't they just don't know
Speaker 9: how to combat that. And the only person who kind
Speaker 9: of did any good was Joe Biden when he was
Speaker 9: still mentally you know, one.
Speaker 1: Hundred percent right. But that was a flash in the pans.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He It was funny watching the predictable responsible because
Speaker 2: because even Hickeen Jeffrey said listen, shut the hell up,
Speaker 2: and clearly there are a number of Democrats that didn't
Speaker 2: heed his advice. And here we go again. Overall, the
Speaker 2: takeaway from this, the bottom line is what heading into
Speaker 2: the midterms here with the president's address last night, it was.
Speaker 9: A good night for the president based off of what
Speaker 9: you know, the polls show right now, but let's check
Speaker 9: back in two three weeks. You know, the Hakeem Jeffreys
Speaker 9: point or Johnson, they have the most, they have the
Speaker 9: worst jobs in DC. They're trying to corral two hundred
Speaker 9: and fifteen plus politicians who are all are trying.
Speaker 1: To make a name for themselves. So I do not
Speaker 1: envy either of those two guys.
Speaker 2: I guess my My takeaway from the whole thing last
Speaker 2: night was it's what I expected from the president, from
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and he was he was in you know,
Speaker 2: Trump vinted Trump form as always. But I guess i'd
Speaker 2: rather hear him go, hey, listen, you know, admitting that.
Speaker 2: And he never does this, but he'd admit, like, it's
Speaker 2: been a rough first year. Okay, we get that, I understand,
Speaker 2: But but here's the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2: Here's what's happening behind the scenes. Here's what you're not
Speaker 2: seeing yet because all this pains lagging indicator. We are
Speaker 2: making progress. The worm is starting rather than going. It's
Speaker 2: the greatest economy ever. Everyone's excited with the hottest country
Speaker 2: in the world. I don't know if that lands with
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Quite honestly, I'd rather be told, hey, look,
Speaker 2: here's the pain part and pretty soon we're gonna have
Speaker 2: more game that I can live with.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but it's not his brand.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 9: You know, Trump has never apologized for anything, So if
Speaker 9: he started doing that, does that.
Speaker 1: Make him look weak to his voters? Does that make hits?
Speaker 9: Because is that a shift in authenticity for him? So
Speaker 9: I get why he wouldn't say, you know, hey, the
Speaker 9: last year's been rough, but Trump's the outlier of all presidents.
Speaker 9: Probably a lot of other presidents would say that he didn't.
Speaker 9: And we'll see, you know, because because what you were
Speaker 9: saying about the messaging points of the Democrats not standing,
Speaker 9: they can use all those cuts.
Speaker 1: Of the greatest economy in the world. So overall, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty much a wash.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: If you're a Democrat, you have a lot of things
Speaker 9: that you can say I disagreed with. If you're a Republican,
Speaker 9: there's a lot of things that you can say, he's
Speaker 9: doing great. At the end of the day, it always
Speaker 9: comes down to the independence the day really right and I.
Speaker 2: Go look at it, going, okay, what's the takeaway here?
Speaker 2: But again, time will tell if these policies are going
Speaker 2: to work out. It's not good for tariffs right now.
Speaker 2: But at some point are we going to start to
Speaker 2: see the fruits of this? And you hope it sooner
Speaker 2: rather than later, especially with Mittterm's come up joining the
Speaker 2: show this morning on the Big One Scott Sland Show.
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, Pollster, a norther the kentucky've Cross Town consultant,
Speaker 2: thanks again for the time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me slim.
Speaker 2: All right, you got a buddy. We got news update
Speaker 2: here in just minutes. Julie balk joins the show coming
Speaker 2: up and a very interesting story that she's going to
Speaker 2: get into here next on the show. And some of
Speaker 2: a topic we talked about last week as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, with Coca Cola and discript dominating against men.
Speaker 2: And it's an interesting, interesting case that affects all of
Speaker 2: us who work for a living. We'll get into that
Speaker 2: just ahead here on seven hundred WWN helping you navigate
Speaker 2: the rocky path the fulfilling employee.
Speaker 1: Here's our career sub Julie.
Speaker 2: Balki, all right, this is from the Careful what you
Speaker 2: wish for a department, And this outcome of this could
Speaker 2: reshape how every company in America, small or large, structures
Speaker 2: its programming relative to diversity going forward. Trump talked about
Speaker 2: this last night in the State of the Union, but
Speaker 2: I mean it still exists out there. So here's an
Speaker 2: interesting case for you. Coca Cola and a outfit called
Speaker 2: Coca Cola Beverages Northeast has been sued by the EOC
Speaker 2: for sex discrimination. The government is alleging that the company
Speaker 2: excluded mail employees from a networking event for women, which
Speaker 2: would violate the Civil Rights Act. In nineteen sixty four,
Speaker 2: what they did was they hosted a women's form event.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty female associates went, included network opportunities,
Speaker 2: discussions on navigating a male dominated industry, work life balance,
Speaker 2: and all those mom fields kind of things. And the
Speaker 2: lawsuit alleges the company denied mail employees the same compensation terms, conditions,
Speaker 2: privileges of employment offered and provided to female employees. That is,
Speaker 2: that is the straightforward civil rights violation. And you look
Speaker 2: at it going, well, did men have the same opportunity
Speaker 2: to get that kind of enlightenment, hotel rooms, paid time,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And the answer is no. That is
Speaker 2: a clear cut violation the Civil Rights Act. So we
Speaker 2: know that DEI is on the ropes in this country.
Speaker 2: This is a whole different thing that's going to apply
Speaker 2: to your business now, and Julie is on to talk
Speaker 2: about it this morning. How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm fine?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I am fine? What do you make of this ruling?
Speaker 6: So here's the here's the it makes sense. Okay, here's
Speaker 6: the demarcation. A company sponsored event, Yes, is very just
Speaker 6: from twenty five women in the claims department going away
Speaker 6: for a weekend paying it for it themselves. And so
Speaker 6: the what the EOC is saying is company resources cannot
Speaker 6: be spent in a discriminatory manner. And so what I
Speaker 6: have seen it's interesting because what I have seen companies
Speaker 6: do is they will do things like, let's say there's
Speaker 6: I'm working with this one company.
Speaker 1: They're women's group.
Speaker 6: They generally have a lot of women. You know, they
Speaker 6: used to be women only events. They've covered a lot
Speaker 6: of topics that women have to deal with at work
Speaker 6: that most that you know, most people the men don't.
Speaker 6: And so what they started doing was they just started
Speaker 6: to change the wording. It was still an event. It
Speaker 6: was still focus on Maybe it's let's take an example,
Speaker 6: maybe it's focused on how to manage your work life
Speaker 6: your personal life when you're working full time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say that's the topic.
Speaker 6: I think it's easy to assume that that topic is
Speaker 6: going to appeal primarily to women, but it doesn't mean
Speaker 6: that there aren't men out there who deal with the
Speaker 6: same things. Maybe you have a wife or a partner
Speaker 6: with a very high powered job and you're both dealing
Speaker 6: with it and So the idea is you want to
Speaker 6: you want to open that content up to anybody who
Speaker 6: wants to attend, to anybody who that content is relevant for. Yes,
Speaker 6: Now will the majority of those people.
Speaker 2: Show up, mostly women?
Speaker 6: Yes, But that's that's the difference. And that's what most
Speaker 6: companies are doing, is they're saying, Okay, we still want
Speaker 6: to provide this content, but we're going to provide it.
Speaker 6: We're going to open it up to everyone. Because not
Speaker 6: all topics are for everyone, nor shouldn't they be, but
Speaker 6: we're going to give people who might normally not have
Speaker 6: been on the invite list. We're going to give them
Speaker 6: a chance opportunity to come to and personally, you know,
Speaker 6: that's a really good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the tangible benefits are. And that's what the
Speaker 2: government's eoc's argument is is the company paid for you know,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty women, but the company paid for lodging,
Speaker 2: they paid for meals, they paid for other benefits for
Speaker 2: the attendees. They paid them their salaries, and they excuse
Speaker 2: them for their regular work duties. So that's not an
Speaker 2: after work you know, let's just have beers session. It's
Speaker 2: a compensated professional development tool. Is what this is, and
Speaker 2: that to me is the big distinction. This is not
Speaker 2: just a social let's get together and have cocktails after
Speaker 2: work thing, which like, okay, everybody does that. It's the
Speaker 2: fact that these women were at the seminar and exclusive
Speaker 2: to women only, that men weren't a part of. And
Speaker 2: I guess the wit to counter that would be have well,
Speaker 2: then do a men's kind of form or something like that.
Speaker 2: But then you're splitting hairs and we got to do
Speaker 2: one for that and disabled people in different affected minority groups,
Speaker 2: and you could just go on, you know, get LBGGQ
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, you're spending millions of
Speaker 2: dollars on seminar. It's just to make it fair.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think you could say, okay, so let's
Speaker 6: take the opposite. Let's say there's a company golf outing.
Speaker 6: I think probably mostly if it's company sponsored golf outing
Speaker 6: or something that maybe the company the fundraiser and company
Speaker 6: sponsoring it, it probably would be disproportionately men. But they
Speaker 6: aren't saying women can't come. And so that's the difference.
Speaker 6: And what's so interesting about this to me is that
Speaker 6: we've entered this time in our world where our workforce
Speaker 6: is made up of so many people of different genders, races, backgrounds,
Speaker 6: you know, different challenges they may have, and it's it's
Speaker 6: it's not a one size fits all world. And so
Speaker 6: what I'm seeing as a response to this, which I
Speaker 6: actually think is a very healthy response, is it's not
Speaker 6: about DEEI. It's about belonging. And so if I'm twenty five,
Speaker 6: if I'm a twenty five year old white male, that
Speaker 6: I have let's say I'm on the spectrum, I have
Speaker 6: burgers or adhd or and so I need I need
Speaker 6: to feel like I belong let's and so I need
Speaker 6: maybe some special you know, maybe some some some special
Speaker 6: content or training or something. I think that the problem
Speaker 6: with the previous way of looking at it, with the
Speaker 6: assumption that if you're a white male, you encounter no
Speaker 6: problems at work, right, and all this right, and that
Speaker 6: that can't possibly be true. Now, while it's sure, while
Speaker 6: we're sure that women often face things that men don't,
Speaker 6: younger people face things that older people don't. People who
Speaker 6: are LGBTQ may face things that work that other people don't.
Speaker 6: I think to divide that by gender is really asking
Speaker 6: for trouble, because it's not. It's not about gender anymore.
Speaker 6: Back when the workforce was very very much predominantly men,
Speaker 6: white people and men, I can see that now we
Speaker 6: have an extremely diverse population and workforce, and what people
Speaker 6: are going to struggle with is really, how do we
Speaker 6: make sure that everybody who comes in our door is
Speaker 6: given a chance to feel like they belong and to
Speaker 6: be successful and that can't cut across their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly women have been in short of the
Speaker 2: stake historically speaking. But you know, with the inclusion and
Speaker 2: the policies in DEI, you can make a legitimate claim
Speaker 2: that Okay, you mentioned white men may feel overwhelmed, but
Speaker 2: with all those change, especially men that have been around
Speaker 2: for a while, going, okay, it's hard to keep up
Speaker 2: with all this change. Maybe maybe they do need a
Speaker 2: seminar themselves for this. But you know, again, is something
Speaker 2: success has to come to the expense of someone else.
Speaker 2: It's zero some game. That's the way it's always been.
Speaker 2: But that's the problem.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think if you if you create the
Speaker 6: type of environment, and I've had some I've had some
Speaker 6: conversations with companies who are really really really great places
Speaker 6: to work. They're constantly recognized. They have their people love
Speaker 6: working there. They're rating her glass door really high, and
Speaker 6: they're struggling with how do we look forward and how
Speaker 6: do we make sure instead of focusing on things like
Speaker 6: quotas and numbers, how instead do we focus on making
Speaker 6: sure we have the type of environment in which people
Speaker 6: feel like they can come here, feel like they belong,
Speaker 6: and that they can be successful. I think that's the
Speaker 6: conversation that needs.
Speaker 1: To be had moving forward.
Speaker 2: Right She's Julie Bouki, our career SUIRP every Wednesday morning
Speaker 2: on the Scots Lawn Show, Julie on the Job on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW and talking about this lawsuit that really
Speaker 2: doesn't have any meeting in your life, but it's going
Speaker 2: to because it's an impact where you work at some point.
Speaker 2: The Equal Opportunity Commission, the EEOC, is suing Coca Cola
Speaker 2: Northeast for sex discrimination because it was biased against men.
Speaker 2: They invited two hundred and fifty employees to a resort.
Speaker 2: They flew them in or got hotels for them and
Speaker 2: paid for that, and it was during company time, but
Speaker 2: it was a women's only seminar and according to the
Speaker 2: Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. You can't do
Speaker 2: that because you're getting meals and salary and time off
Speaker 2: from regular duties and paid lodging. And I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: some reck and spa time maybe be golf, who knows
Speaker 2: something like that, and there's gonna be entertainers. But that's
Speaker 2: only for women and no one else. That's discriminatory according
Speaker 2: to the law. And I'm glad we live in a
Speaker 2: time where we can look at that going, Look, there's
Speaker 2: no problem. It's not a big deal to lift people
Speaker 2: up or lift a group up, but you have to
Speaker 2: do it equitably and fairly. And that's the problem with
Speaker 2: DEI all these years. And that's why I think the
Speaker 2: president's right to overturn this is like it always has
Speaker 2: to come to the expense of someone else. Like all
Speaker 2: these groups matter, but if one group matters, they all matter.
Speaker 2: How about just you know, if you want to be
Speaker 2: better at your job or productive, quit looking at gender,
Speaker 2: quit looking at race, and quit looking at all these other
Speaker 2: factors and just can you do the job or not?
Speaker 2: Now that's the perfect world for me. That's not reality, of.
Speaker 6: Course, right right, And that's so it's not it's not
Speaker 6: that we don't companies and humans and j general don't
Speaker 6: recognize that that people that there are times when you know,
Speaker 6: there are people who deal with different struggles in the
Speaker 6: workplace and at different times. And so I might be
Speaker 6: let's say I'm a twenty five year old life guy
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I don't get it, what's the big
Speaker 6: deal here? Then he ends up, you know, he gets
Speaker 6: married or gets a partner, they have a child, maybe
Speaker 6: the child has special needs. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: you have parents who are really getting pulled in a
Speaker 6: thousand different directions. All of a sudden, that life experience
Speaker 6: may make him say, okay.
Speaker 3: I get it a little bit now.
Speaker 6: And so I think we have to just if we
Speaker 6: create cultures of belonging and we bring in opportunities for
Speaker 6: people to fully engage at work, but also, you know,
Speaker 6: live that live that blended life successfully regardless of what
Speaker 6: their situation is or what class or group they come from.
Speaker 6: I think you're just We're just going to have a
Speaker 6: lot better outcomes and a lot healthier conversation. And it's
Speaker 6: but it's a shift, and so it's going to take
Speaker 6: a bit for people to come to that shift. But
Speaker 6: I'm a Boomer. If I can learn it, anybody can
Speaker 6: learn it.
Speaker 2: The critics of they say that the EEOC is misusing
Speaker 2: their limited resources to go after cases like this while
Speaker 2: real discrimination in the workplace exists against women. How do
Speaker 2: you weigh that argument?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 6: And do we know that? Do we know that they
Speaker 6: are not also going after other things in the department.
Speaker 6: I think that's kind of a false comparison, yep, I
Speaker 6: don't think. I don't think those two things necessarily two
Speaker 6: things can be true at once. They can be going
Speaker 6: after and calling out these kinds of things, but also
Speaker 6: calling out other things. But yes, those things exist. But
Speaker 6: we have to do we have to do sort of
Speaker 6: a frame of mind shift around how we look at this.
Speaker 6: What can I do to make sure that my workplace
Speaker 6: that I'm removing the barriers as a company leadership to
Speaker 6: everybody who walks our door being the most fulfilled and
Speaker 6: engaged they can be. How do I knock those barriers down?
Speaker 1: Because that may.
Speaker 6: Sound to you like, but it actually there's so many
Speaker 6: studies that show that those types of cultures fall directly
Speaker 6: to more success on the bottom line. And so it's
Speaker 6: a business case. It's a business.
Speaker 2: Barrierge Well, give me the examples of where this vast
Speaker 2: discrimination is happening as opposed to, well, there's still discrimination. Well,
Speaker 2: of course there is. There's always going to be discriminations.
Speaker 2: There are going to be crazy stories that come out
Speaker 2: in the news about somebody doing sexual harassment, or as
Speaker 2: long as men and women are together, that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: That's the realist side. Doesn't mean we should accept it
Speaker 2: and just go okay whatever, But I'm saying it's going
Speaker 2: to happen. We're the sexist co mingle. I guess the
Speaker 2: way I look at it is with when it comes
Speaker 2: to DEI programs and the like, is they have we
Speaker 2: you know, with pulling it back, are they going to
Speaker 2: be able to support themselves? Because at some point you've
Speaker 2: got to withdraw the program to see if we can
Speaker 2: Steff the toddler can stand on its own. And I
Speaker 2: think it's high time we've done something like that. I
Speaker 2: also know that this provides a lot of cover for
Speaker 2: people who may not be good or competent in their jobs,
Speaker 2: as opposed to going, well, you know, either you do
Speaker 2: can do the job, or you can't do the job.
Speaker 2: You can do this report, or you're not getting the
Speaker 2: concept and then immediately it reverts to Welt's discrimination. You're
Speaker 2: treating me because of my gender, my skin color, my ethnicity,
Speaker 2: my sexual orientation. No, you just you suck at your job.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, for a long time, DEI has provided too
Speaker 2: much cover for that.
Speaker 6: Well, and let's it's not yeah, I mean, that's just
Speaker 6: poor leadership. I mean most of the issues at work
Speaker 6: today is poor leadership. So let me tell you a
Speaker 6: story that just has must right real quick. And I
Speaker 6: can tell the story pop because okay, okay, women I
Speaker 6: know working her butt off in this job too, and
Speaker 6: two and three jobs. She's the only woman on the team.
Speaker 6: The owner of this company gave all the males a
Speaker 6: bonus and a big raise, but not her.
Speaker 3: And do you know why?
Speaker 6: He said, Oh, you're nearly our strongest performer, but you're
Speaker 6: not the primary breadwinner in your household, so you don't
Speaker 6: need it.
Speaker 2: How old is the guy, the boss?
Speaker 1: He's sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's the problem is that age
Speaker 2: gap is like people still think like that.
Speaker 6: Right yeah yeah, And so it still affects people. So
Speaker 6: there's still that thinking out there. And if that makes
Speaker 6: sense to you, if you're listening, to this and that
Speaker 6: makes sense to you. You need to do some deep thinking, absolutely,
Speaker 6: because when you get learned, it's about the job. It's
Speaker 6: not about what your circumstances are outside of one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: or individual for that matter, All the best, have a
Speaker 2: great week. News is on the way. Next we'll talk
Speaker 2: about the State of the Union again and specifically the
Speaker 2: big thing is happened in the next seventy two hours here?
Speaker 2: What is the deal with Iran? The President briefly touched
Speaker 2: on this at the end last night. Mark and Silaco's
Speaker 2: here to break it down. Are we going to war?
Speaker 2: That's the question. Next we'll have an answer. Seven hundred
Speaker 2: WW Cincinnati. I don't want to be plony. On seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. The clock is ticket here. That clock tick tick,
Speaker 2: President Trump last night in the state of the Union
Speaker 2: deal or military strike? What's going to happen with Iran?
Speaker 2: Right at the end of it. If you were able
Speaker 2: to stay awake, that long, the longest State of the
Speaker 2: Union ever at one hundred and eight minutes, said he
Speaker 2: would never allowed Tehran to obtain nuclear weapons and says, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I'd much rather do this diplomatically. So the latest done
Speaker 2: this is we have two US carrier strike groups now
Speaker 2: positioned in the region. There's a lot of US Navy
Speaker 2: ships there by the way, tomorrow nuclear talks will resume
Speaker 2: in Geneva. Rans four Minister says a deal is within reach.
Speaker 2: Pentagon leaked out some stuff regarding warnings in our military preparedness,
Speaker 2: and there's also what four straight days now fifty five
Speaker 2: days of university protests inside Iran, and this is all
Speaker 2: going to come to a head fairly soon, at least,
Speaker 2: we think. Let me bring in doctor Mark Ensilaco, former
Speaker 2: director of International Studies and found a human rights program
Speaker 2: studies at the University of Dayton, the Middle Eastern terrorism expert.
Speaker 2: Doctor Mark. Welcome back. How you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
Speaker 9: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well?
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a long speech last night. He did
Speaker 2: Iran at the end. So the President said that and
Speaker 2: multiple times, including last night, that they of the United
Speaker 2: States obliterated Around's nuclear program in operation Midnight Hammer last June.
Speaker 2: Nuclear experts say it was significant, not total, because they
Speaker 2: still have enrichment facilities at two locations suspect of being crippled,
Speaker 2: but they still operate at least one other reactors. So
Speaker 2: from your expertise, how accurate is the word obliterated and
Speaker 2: how quickly could Iran start resuming and reconstituting their nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, so there was that sort of contradiction. It
Speaker 7: was obliterated, but we might need to strike again. That
Speaker 7: was a bit confusing. And see, not an expert of
Speaker 7: nuclear proliferation, but from all I can see, they're set
Speaker 7: back and there had be a very difficult time. But
Speaker 7: has the destruction of equipment, of plans, right, research facility,
Speaker 7: we're talking about the assassination of physicists and another scientists,
Speaker 7: rocket scientists, et cetera. So they're hurting, and as you
Speaker 7: point out, with the unrest, the social unrest, the protests,
Speaker 7: the dissidents, they're having a very time, very difficult time
Speaker 7: focusing on anything. And you mentioned at the top was interesting,
Speaker 7: you know, the clocks taking, but the clock's on outside.
Speaker 7: It's not right. They're gonna we have to strike them
Speaker 7: next week because in two weeks they could have an
Speaker 7: operational nuclear weapon. Pustly need missiles to be able to
Speaker 7: bring them the United States. It could strike digital, but
Speaker 7: couldn't stake much there on that. So you know, Iron
Speaker 7: knows it's in a difficult situation and then knows that
Speaker 7: the President has no reluctance about using that hammer. It's
Speaker 7: moved a tremendous amount of military resources into the UH
Speaker 7: into the area. And you mentioned aircraft carrier metal groups,
Speaker 7: but aircrafts too, so air trink or refuelers and bombers,
Speaker 7: and so Iron knows from a recent experience that the
Speaker 7: United States has a hammer and it's willing to use it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's classic carrot or stick, right, we
Speaker 2: have the carrot, but we'll crack you with the stick
Speaker 2: if we have to. And certainly no one wants that.
Speaker 2: Even Trump said that himself. It was like, we want
Speaker 2: to end this diplomatically and said we'll never allow them
Speaker 2: to have a nuclear program. Their foreign minister said literally
Speaker 2: those words this week, the same thing, under no circumstances
Speaker 2: will we ever develop a nuclear weapon. President did acknowledge
Speaker 2: that in the last night in the State of the Union.
Speaker 2: So in that context. Now, what's really being negotiated here.
Speaker 2: It seems like the goalposts may be moving, and does
Speaker 2: it work in a context and framing his demands like
Speaker 2: this last night because they're admitting, hey, we don't want
Speaker 2: to do this, but we've seen in the past where
Speaker 2: well Iraq, right, we believe them would be developing programs
Speaker 2: and weapons of mass destruction. Of course, you know we
Speaker 2: saw what happened there in context, but again we can't
Speaker 2: be too sure, can't we.
Speaker 7: No, you know, these are secret facilities and try to
Speaker 7: hide them underground. Our intelligence good Israeli tell is very good,
Speaker 7: but there's things.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 7: But you know, maturely interesting. The the Iranians, i think,
Speaker 7: want an outcome that's similar to the deal that he
Speaker 7: withdrew from before, right, so they can have rich to
Speaker 7: a certain degree and the UN can keep an eye
Speaker 7: on them, and they still retain that Trump President Trump
Speaker 7: wants and he's in a.
Speaker 1: Position to obtain.
Speaker 7: He wants this complete nuclearization, you know, no, enrichment to
Speaker 7: a certain level where the possibility for a breakout. But
Speaker 7: there's something else that to bring up, Scott, you know
Speaker 7: you mentioned the dissonance you have a regime That is
Speaker 7: how it's difficult today, but it's close to tottering right,
Speaker 7: And another president has spoken repeatedly about opposing regime wars
Speaker 7: of a regime change. One wonders if in the back
Speaker 7: of their mind the Houston military force is.
Speaker 1: More regime change.
Speaker 7: Now, by the way, if that theocratic regime comes down
Speaker 7: the nuclear issue and the nuclear program, the missile programs,
Speaker 7: support for terrorism, that goes away because there are reasonably
Speaker 7: democratic forces inside around who do that. So, whether that's
Speaker 7: intentional or not, a military strike would you know, hasten
Speaker 7: the collapse of the regime. It may be the purpose.
Speaker 7: So what I would strongly urge is as we go
Speaker 7: through the negotiation, prefer negotiated solution to the nuclear situation,
Speaker 7: of course, but whether we're behind regime change with military
Speaker 7: strike with all the means, we need to start thinking
Speaker 7: five steps down the road, not a step ahead, because
Speaker 7: this is gonna be a very complex situation. Is a
Speaker 7: large society, It could be civil war, it could be
Speaker 7: trying to some senstability and violence, and that's inpact, oil
Speaker 7: and everything else. So we're you know, one thing under
Speaker 7: this administration is with Venezuela and now Cuba, is next
Speaker 7: on the hit list. Uh, he's seeing the transformation in
Speaker 7: the global map in a way that's favorable to us interest.
Speaker 7: So in the back of my mind, I wonder if
Speaker 7: a lot of the stable rattling really has to do
Speaker 7: with regime change, not democlearization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that point too, we have protests, as
Speaker 2: I said, erupting in universities around Iran, chounting death to
Speaker 2: Kameni and raising the pre revolution flag. They want to
Speaker 2: go back to seventy pre seventy nine, which you know,
Speaker 2: it was a completely free society. You look at pictures
Speaker 2: from then versus now, and it's it looks extremely western.
Speaker 2: You know, the women are going to university dressing in
Speaker 2: Western clothes. And this regime came in and seventy nine
Speaker 2: and changed all that. Human rights groups said seven thousand
Speaker 2: people were killed fifty thousand arrested in the January crackdown.
Speaker 2: So they're seeing that pressure. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: the regime is now mobilizing their militia on campuses in
Speaker 2: attacking the protesters themselves in this regard, So does that
Speaker 2: this military action, if we get involved in this in
Speaker 2: Iran militarily, does it strengthen comedies hold on power, because
Speaker 2: we've seen these things backfire before too.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's who knows. Who knows. I mean, certainly dissidents
Speaker 7: within Iran want the regime to come down, but they
Speaker 7: don't want the Shaw's sun to come back, and they
Speaker 7: don't necessarily want to come to power to bring out
Speaker 7: democratic change at the point at the point of a gun,
Speaker 7: an American gun. That puts them in a very difficult
Speaker 7: situation in terms of their legitimacy. You know, because after
Speaker 7: in December and January the violence there, the regime came
Speaker 7: out and said, yes, the word deaths, that they were
Speaker 7: caused by outside agitators and the Zionists and Americans. So
Speaker 7: certainly they'll try to leverage us involvement in terms of
Speaker 7: public opinion. But let me say something. I'm teaching on
Speaker 7: this class, my political violence seminar is now in his
Speaker 7: thirty sixty year and we're dealing with Iran. You get
Speaker 7: the number of a five thousand killed, I'm hearing forty
Speaker 7: thousand killed. We remember ten of men that was located
Speaker 7: in Animn and there are there are thousands there, one hundreds,
Speaker 7: certainly thousands.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 7: You had protests throughout the country every major city, and
Speaker 7: you write the Beijis and the other militia groups and
Speaker 7: the Revolutionary Guards are quite brutal and repressive, and they're
Speaker 7: not going to go quietly, you know. I remember when
Speaker 7: the Arab Spring was happening a number of years ago
Speaker 7: and the government Morocco fell to me eventually in Egypt.
Speaker 7: I remember being asked about Syria and I said, well, no,
Speaker 7: the regime Alfas Alasada and Beshier Alasada will fight to
Speaker 7: the last Syrian. It will be no way they're going
Speaker 7: to go quietly. And that's where they see what they're
Speaker 7: ranning regime. They're not going to go quietly, whether we
Speaker 7: strike them or not. And what would we strike? One thing,
Speaker 7: restriking the nuclear facilities or the air defenses. But to
Speaker 7: have any direct involvement you impact on the democracy movement. Uh,
Speaker 7: then they have to wait to strike. What strike the
Speaker 7: Revolutionary Guard had quarters. I mean, it becomes very it
Speaker 7: becomes then becomes a walk, then becomes an intervention in
Speaker 7: another country in a war that's not over eliminating a
Speaker 7: nuclear threat. Man, Now you're talking about a legion change war,
Speaker 7: which MAGA was opposed to.
Speaker 2: And I only that We're very bad at it. Every time,
Speaker 2: seems like every time we do it. Mark Ensiolaco from
Speaker 2: the University of Dayton. What happens is we put it here, Okay,
Speaker 2: we got a regime change, and then we forget. We
Speaker 2: move on to the next shiny thing, and then all
Speaker 2: this chaos occurs in country and we get another despot
Speaker 2: in charge. It's worse than the one. We spent all
Speaker 2: this money, time and sadly bodies on trying to displace.
Speaker 2: We don't have the I guess, the fortitude to make
Speaker 2: sure that the democracy takes rue whatever that looks like.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly what the students want, but you
Speaker 2: wonder how many of the people who work for the
Speaker 2: autocratic society, meaning the generals and their minions, don't want
Speaker 2: that at all, and they'll completely undermine that to stay
Speaker 2: in power.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: On a personality side of it, I hope the president
Speaker 7: is paying listening more closely to Marco Rubio than exist.
Speaker 7: I just think in terms of their ability to analyze it.
Speaker 7: Talked about you need to be five steps ahead. Uh,
Speaker 7: Marcal Rubio is five steps ahead. Probably is thinking about
Speaker 7: the complex all the things you raised is delightful. You know,
Speaker 7: it's wonderful the moment whenever the dictator's statue was pulled down,
Speaker 7: you know where Sidam was saying it. That was a
Speaker 7: wonderful movement. But when you know, we got drawn into
Speaker 7: that war and we were very we got drawn into
Speaker 7: the surge because we were uh, in our in our
Speaker 7: greed to democratize a rack, we ended up just destabilizing
Speaker 7: in the war that they're in Vegas. And and I
Speaker 7: think and even President Trump is aware of that. I
Speaker 7: think he's quite aware of it.
Speaker 2: How in danger are our troops are assets out there?
Speaker 2: Ran has threatened to retaliate as hard as possible, uh
Speaker 2: and said that Hey, Comandie even said we can sink
Speaker 2: a US worship has Bala, The Houthis or Rocky militias
Speaker 2: are all across the region. What's a realistic retaliation scenario
Speaker 2: if we strike? What do they do to us? What's
Speaker 2: the most dangerous move they can make against us?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's an excellent question. And then it really the
Speaker 7: answer depends on a realistic assessment of their capabilities. So
Speaker 7: in two things, One they could fire off short range missiles.
Speaker 7: Now rock did is and there were scuds and they
Speaker 7: were in accurate, but Iranian weapons that rocket program is
Speaker 7: where it's just getting so they can start lobbing some things.
Speaker 7: They would have to overpower our anti ballistic missile equipment,
Speaker 7: you know, our Patriot system, our armed iron dome systems.
Speaker 7: But you know they could sneak a weapon, and it's
Speaker 7: one of these places. It's happened in Syria recently and
Speaker 7: Jordan where soldiers and military contract has been hit by
Speaker 7: a straight rocket. So that's one in good old days.
Speaker 7: They said that facetiously, it was you would expect terror operations,
Speaker 7: so you expect, you know, it takes it pick a
Speaker 7: military action and you never know what the US embassy's
Speaker 7: attacked in. I don't know, boinos Ares or something, so
Speaker 7: the terrorist can now struck at that. But the real
Speaker 7: question is you mentioned is Boland the huties they're hurt.
Speaker 7: They're hurt very er badly. You know that there's really
Speaker 7: attack with the pagers eliminated. We can his blog quite deal.
Speaker 7: So they've lost the land bridge across Syria to Lebanon.
Speaker 1: Hutu.
Speaker 7: Situation is really complex, so I don't I don't want
Speaker 7: to underestimate their ability either to strike US with a
Speaker 7: missile or too overwhelm our missile defenses, or it's terrorism,
Speaker 7: but it's it's real. It always attack has been. Remember
Speaker 7: we attacked Libya in nineteen eighty six, remember Richard Nixon,
Speaker 7: I mean Ronald Reagan and nineteen eighty nine we had
Speaker 7: penem one thing that was them, I mean, that was
Speaker 7: the retaliation. So there's that possibility. It's good for it's
Speaker 7: good that you brought that up. In addition to the
Speaker 7: ineptness that sort of managing a democratic change in society's
Speaker 7: foreigned to us, there's the terrorist that lingers as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, last night President Trump mark doctor mark on Siloaka
Speaker 2: from University Dayton, Trump claimed Iran as building missiles right now,
Speaker 2: intercontinental ballistic missiles it could reach the United States. Didn't
Speaker 2: offer any evidence for that. But how close to the
Speaker 2: truth is that do we know? And what's the intelligence picture.
Speaker 7: Here versus you know, Iranians are good physicist, physicists and scientists.
Speaker 7: They got a very robust missile program. I mean there's
Speaker 7: a there's a there's units within a relutionary guard that
Speaker 7: are in charge of this is weaponized. It a lot
Speaker 7: of cooperation with the Chinese in North Koreans, they're actually
Speaker 7: arming h Russia. You know, they're with the with the
Speaker 7: the drones, et cetera. So they're versphisticated arms manufacturing basis.
Speaker 7: And you know, I worry about the missile program as
Speaker 7: much as the nuclear program because got a nuclear you know,
Speaker 7: assuming you can produce a nuclear weapon, and they cout,
Speaker 7: could they got the uglinium and they got the expertise,
Speaker 7: could they miniaturize it to be able to put on
Speaker 7: a rocket, But you need a rocket to be able
Speaker 7: to hit its target. Pack. Really, Israel is already in
Speaker 7: the shadow of that, but certainly the United States, the
Speaker 7: United States is yet but yeah, they got to. I
Speaker 7: can't give it a complete assessment, but I would. I would.
Speaker 7: I would assess it as you know, uh, a moderate
Speaker 7: at least a moderate probability that they're advancing towards intercontinental blissage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the problem is we don't know. We're
Speaker 2: just guessing. So this thing steps up if we launch
Speaker 2: or we strike a deal. Let's say that this happens
Speaker 2: and right now rants doing military drills in the straight
Speaker 2: up our moves. That's about what roughly twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the world oil supply. We're seeing the price of oil.
Speaker 2: The prices are good right now, but we're in near
Speaker 2: seven months high. So what happens to global energy markets
Speaker 2: if we strike them?
Speaker 7: Oh my, you know the petroleum market is so complex
Speaker 7: now now with Venezuela sort of off back online, they
Speaker 7: have production capabilities, but how they're they're given the oil
Speaker 7: to watch. And the President mentioned that lists and in
Speaker 7: the City Union rather than rather than Cuba or North Korea,
Speaker 7: so that offsets it. But no, whenever there's whenever there's
Speaker 7: disruption of shipping, it's quite scary. Remember remember View said
Speaker 7: start Remember our warship was struck, and you know the
Speaker 7: Ranians got a presence there and they get the speed
Speaker 7: boats and everything like that, so there's things they could do.
Speaker 7: So you've got to imagine we think about the air strikes,
Speaker 7: we think about the air force being able to like
Speaker 7: these out rates. Uh, big burden is going to rest
Speaker 7: on the capable shoulders of the Maybe, but the Navy
Speaker 7: was gonna have to keep the straight of hormonies open
Speaker 7: and protect the shipping ranks, and which we did during
Speaker 7: the roan At War we flagged tankers et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 7: But no, those Revolutionary Guard Nagel boats, those speed boats yep, yeah,
Speaker 7: we remember in North Korea? Remember, uh you know them.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of the name of the of
Speaker 7: the warship as the time, but yeah, they're they're coal
Speaker 7: Yeah well coal was Yeah, that was al Qaeda. I'm
Speaker 7: thinking of Maya Mayagu West remember.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, But I mean that's a
Speaker 2: con attacted. These a smaller speedy boat and you know
Speaker 2: it's brigged with explosives, and you know it only takes
Speaker 2: one of those to get through the ring around our
Speaker 2: warships before I let you go. Yeah yeah, Mark on Slaco.
Speaker 2: So the clock is ticking here, deal or military strike?
Speaker 2: How do you how do you see this thing playing out?
Speaker 2: Which scenario is more probable? And what should be prepared
Speaker 2: for here in the homeland?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 7: Us tough questions. I just tell you, you know, my guess.
Speaker 7: My guess is I take the president's work. He wants
Speaker 7: a deal, he's a deal maker. But my my hunches
Speaker 7: there's going to be a military strike. Uh you know,
Speaker 7: it would seem being fastigious, such a waste to bring
Speaker 7: all that equip and all that flower not use it.
Speaker 7: And the Secretary of war. I think likes to order
Speaker 7: military operations. So my guess is there'll be some limited strike,
Speaker 7: just not a massive attack, but there'll be something too
Speaker 7: to get the attention and the Iranians. So when they
Speaker 7: go back and think of Nixon and Christmas bombing and
Speaker 7: Hanoi finally coming to a shutting table, my guess would be,
Speaker 7: you're going to see some limited military action. And I
Speaker 7: hope I'm wrong. I offer them, but it's it's real possibility, and.
Speaker 2: I guess I reply their response and would probably be
Speaker 2: a terror space attack as opposed to a you know,
Speaker 2: talking about launching missiles and the like AATUS and our
Speaker 2: assets which are over prepared for that, but you know,
Speaker 2: terrorism is a much lower bar.
Speaker 7: Yeah. And there's and and they say in the business,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of soft targets. You asked about threat
Speaker 7: to milk and military. Remember we were in Iraq were
Speaker 7: we were hit in Saudi Arabia the air force, air
Speaker 7: force bases and things like this. But the favorite target
Speaker 7: for terrorists or soft targets, so that means a tourist hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sadly uh. Doctor Mark Nzelaco at the University
Speaker 2: of Date and former Director International Studies Program Founder Human
Speaker 2: Rights Studies at UD Middle Eastern Terrorism Experts. Book is
Speaker 2: Black September to September eleventh. I appreciate the time as always.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Scott, had a good day.
Speaker 2: Yeah you too. Not not the news you want to hear.
Speaker 2: And I hope he's dead wrong about this whole thing
Speaker 2: that cooled their heads to prevail and we can come
Speaker 2: to some sort of deal struck with Iran, as the
Speaker 2: President talked about last night in the State to the Union.
Speaker 2: How about news and now we'll return and lighten it
Speaker 2: up a little bit because we need to get a
Speaker 2: lighter than that. Right Sarah Elise is here. It's a
Speaker 2: snort report. We'll talk some sports next seven hundred w Old.
Speaker 5: Are you prepared? Aren't prepare?
Speaker 4: Who's ready for the paige? I'm prepared, prepared for the
Speaker 4: pork and the sort.
Speaker 2: It's a snow report on seven hundred Sarah from one
Speaker 2: Sports meets social Media. Yeah, you sound like hell right now?
Speaker 2: What are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Even you know what?
Speaker 8: It's better I'm having to hear about it because God forbid,
Speaker 8: I take a day off from this place.
Speaker 2: Who's killing you about taking a day off when you're sick.
Speaker 4: His name starts with kid and ends with Chris.
Speaker 2: Is it kid Chris?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 2: Why are you afraid to have?
Speaker 4: First time that I sniffle.
Speaker 8: He's like, oh, great, You're probably gonna have to take
Speaker 8: the take the day off, and I'm like, yeah, because
Speaker 8: I do that all the time, dolt.
Speaker 4: I I think I took two sick days last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's done this as long as I have.
Speaker 2: He can do the show himself.
Speaker 4: Can I don't think he can.
Speaker 2: We just play another song. You can play like seven songs,
Speaker 2: some more Ozzy Osbourne and a c DC and no,
Speaker 2: my sick voice I haven't heard on those airwaves. They
Speaker 2: have to be on there. What happens if it doesn't,
Speaker 2: Hell's to pay.
Speaker 4: So now you all can listen to my stuffy snort.
Speaker 2: That means I get sick and I have no problem
Speaker 2: taking a six.
Speaker 8: No, you don't, and you shouldn't. We get sick days
Speaker 8: for a reason. There's a reason we've got like eighty
Speaker 8: hours of sick days.
Speaker 2: Well I should be that guy. It's like I'll power
Speaker 2: through it. Well, what happens is you feel miserable, you
Speaker 2: show up and then everyone around you sick and they
Speaker 2: take the sick day, so you work even more when
Speaker 2: you're sick, like.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then they're putting their fists in there like
Speaker 8: damn it, Sarah, why did you show up with your
Speaker 8: sick sickness?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like my job is I'm working on
Speaker 2: a human brain or something like that where I'm doing
Speaker 2: spinal surgery. And it's like it is, it's just a radio.
Speaker 8: Dan Carroll will happily be here, ken Brew. The list
Speaker 8: goes on, Mike Gallon.
Speaker 2: Go, they're fine, Well, I appreciate you being a trooper.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what it's like, I said, it's it's
Speaker 4: better than having to.
Speaker 2: Hear about it too, because you're congested.
Speaker 4: Oh, we're super stuffy for this.
Speaker 2: You're not going to snort and snot all over me,
Speaker 2: though it could happen.
Speaker 8: And I feel bad because I know all the older
Speaker 8: gentlemen around here, like I can't be getting you guys sick,
Speaker 8: like your immune systems are very sarious.
Speaker 2: Older people too. It's like a Gallagher show here, we're
Speaker 2: in the front row. We're smashing water mills. Like it's
Speaker 2: not all over I gotta I gotta wear a poncho.
Speaker 8: And you know who's on this mic next, our friend Seg.
Speaker 8: He sits here. We don't need him getting sick. He's
Speaker 8: very important.
Speaker 10: I don't think he ever gets he never leaves, he
Speaker 10: never content sick. We have been haveing next contact with
Speaker 10: people to get sick, all of us here at I heeart.
Speaker 10: That's it, that's true, all right.
Speaker 4: Someone who's not sick are Miami RedHawks. They are alive.
Speaker 2: I'm healthy.
Speaker 8: Everybody else is sick of them winning because now they
Speaker 8: are twenty eight no, and they are three wins away
Speaker 8: until a perfect season. A little rough last night though
Speaker 8: not their best performance, but still got it done. You
Speaker 8: are going to have that, you know, Friday making every
Speaker 8: single three. Last night not so much little toff. I
Speaker 8: didn't think they're going to make it through that one
Speaker 8: for a little bit.
Speaker 4: They did three to go.
Speaker 2: But is it challenging them? I mean, it's not like
Speaker 2: they're paying a big team. You're coming up.
Speaker 8: I think that It's like Western Michigan. They had Eastern
Speaker 8: last night, Western this Friday the other night.
Speaker 4: It was a good game. There was not one Beg
Speaker 4: fan at Mallett Hall. Another sold out game too.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 4: I'm like when I was here. This never happened.
Speaker 8: I went to there's fans, no plenty of guys on
Speaker 8: the bench, though, I was like, why do these guys
Speaker 8: have twenty five coaches? Like what is the point of
Speaker 8: every single guy inna brown polo walking around?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: They just want to close up of Miami weddings. That Yeah,
Speaker 8: I almost brought in my diploma today since some of
Speaker 8: you gentlemen forgot that I actually Gridge waited from Miami University.
Speaker 2: Forgot you graduated from me after all these years. I
Speaker 2: thought you were a youth. I thought you went to
Speaker 2: UC as much UC swag as you have.
Speaker 8: Well, I worked for the campus and I can't be
Speaker 8: over here hyping up Miami while I'm working for the Bearcats.
Speaker 4: I still love both.
Speaker 2: Changing both to the front runner address is what.
Speaker 8: If that's what you want to call? Yeah, I just
Speaker 8: set you in Austin Omore straight.
Speaker 2: On, Fred Miami Grant. I thought you went these years.
Speaker 2: You see you, you see stuff all the time. I
Speaker 2: actually went to UC. You went at Miami, So I
Speaker 2: admit it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, So every person in my family graduated from UC,
Speaker 8: like my grandpa, uncle's dad.
Speaker 4: I'm like the lone Miami grad of my family.
Speaker 8: So yeah, right twenty ten baby, all the way back
Speaker 8: to twenty ten go red Hawks, and of course Brick Street,
Speaker 8: the most famous bar in the world. Right now, we're
Speaker 8: very rowdy. Over the week I sure started for that
Speaker 8: gold medal.
Speaker 2: Wag was awesome.
Speaker 8: It was very awesome, and we were to It's there
Speaker 8: on Friday night before hoops. Hardly anybody there, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: I promise you this place will be packed for hockey,
Speaker 8: very much of the hockey hockey town.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 4: I watched more hockey games there than foot.
Speaker 2: To watch. Again, that's a great and glad to see
Speaker 2: that Miami hockey's back.
Speaker 4: And it's tiny too.
Speaker 8: I mean you're only going to have like three thousand
Speaker 8: people in there, so every seat is really good and
Speaker 8: you're pretty much guaranteed to see him win.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen a Miami hockey loss.
Speaker 8: Speaking of hockey, if you do want to get your fix,
Speaker 8: the Cyclones are back at it tonight seven thirty puck
Speaker 8: drop two dollars beers and this weekend they become the
Speaker 8: Cincinnati three Ways. What something that only makes sense and
Speaker 8: Cincinnati if you were a fan of the Chili new jerseys.
Speaker 2: Every every game there's a new jersey.
Speaker 8: It keeps things fun though it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 8: good time. Matt Sheer is my buddy that designed those
Speaker 8: did a great job. So if you can make it
Speaker 8: out to go support the Three ways. Puck drops seven
Speaker 8: thirty on Saturday.
Speaker 2: More sweaters than old Navy.
Speaker 4: Bugs.
Speaker 8: Also trending on social media when it comes to sports,
Speaker 8: our thirteen year old buddy that messed up the Marty statue.
Speaker 8: He's not going to be seeing any games at GABP
Speaker 8: for quite some time. He is banned through the twenty
Speaker 8: twenty nine season, so he will be a age to
Speaker 8: vote by the time that he can.
Speaker 10: Bandle a partial banishment from Great American Ballpark. And I
Speaker 10: guess he has to pay what three thousand bucks to
Speaker 10: the Reds to.
Speaker 2: Fix that statute. Oh boy, what did he do? Mess
Speaker 2: up the mic Well, he.
Speaker 10: Tried to climb the statue. He was climbing it in
Speaker 10: and he grabs the microphone in the design bent dude,
Speaker 10: how did it fall.
Speaker 4: Over so easy?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like he wasn't up there very long messing.
Speaker 2: With it, and then they took the statue out. It's
Speaker 2: not there.
Speaker 4: So they were like, forget it, We're going to take
Speaker 4: the entire thing out of the wall.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean, look at the weather. You want to
Speaker 2: work that inside? You could take it off and then
Speaker 2: work on in the shop and fit right.
Speaker 4: So that'll be ready for opening day, less than thirty
Speaker 4: days to go. By the way, March twenty.
Speaker 2: Who loves this, So this whole thing more than anybody else, Marty?
Speaker 2: You know why?
Speaker 4: Because he wanted it lower.
Speaker 2: Nope. Why so we're going to have another tribute ceremony.
Speaker 2: Here we go. We're going to do the cutting, another party, Marty, Marty,
Speaker 2: I remember you were in the same sweater I was, yeah, seven,
Speaker 2: Remember at the Charleston Mall and Charleston Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: We still see him greeting people at Kroger.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So why not run it back for another ceremony.
Speaker 2: Run it back, We're gonna get he gets another ceremony.
Speaker 2: He gets, you know what, Marty gets more as kissing.
Speaker 2: That's for the.
Speaker 8: Holiday we'll be doing on March twenty fifth. It'll be
Speaker 8: Marty Brunnaman Day here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: All over again.
Speaker 8: Bring the whole media team out. Oll of l W
Speaker 8: will be there. We'll have a Pete Rose bobblehead to celebrate.
Speaker 8: I don't know. Ye, we can celebrate the Reds. They
Speaker 8: got their first win in Cactus League play. Got it
Speaker 8: done yesterday against the Royals.
Speaker 2: Five to four. I don't really celebrate this preseason. It's spring.
Speaker 4: But do you think that there are too many spring
Speaker 4: training games? Like, let's just get to it. We've were
Speaker 4: three in like, let's go like football.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: The problem with that, though, is a is you've seen
Speaker 2: this before?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And who was I talking to was Jeff Carr from
Speaker 2: Lockdown Rest.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they need Monday offs, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you need to ease into this. We don't need
Speaker 2: you do. I don't know way to be injured as
Speaker 2: we start the season.
Speaker 4: I shoulnderstand.
Speaker 2: Make it easy.
Speaker 8: You work two days and you're like, look, I need
Speaker 8: a day. I gotta go golfing, which is exactly what
Speaker 8: they did on Monday.
Speaker 2: Like the old days where the guys would show up
Speaker 2: in horrible shape and they'd lose thirty pounds in the
Speaker 2: month to get in games, right, right, you know back then,
Speaker 2: did guys get injured as much? No, It's like they
Speaker 2: come in incredible shape and then they just press it
Speaker 2: too hard.
Speaker 8: Hey, these guys are in great shape and they've been
Speaker 8: taking care of themselves. I mean, we know that Ellie
Speaker 8: has put on like seventeen pounds of muscle. He is
Speaker 8: jacked up top. I mean every single photo that the
Speaker 8: Reds are adding you can see every sort of definition
Speaker 8: in his arms.
Speaker 4: We know that Sal Stewart has lost weight.
Speaker 10: I don't like that.
Speaker 4: You don't like that he's.
Speaker 2: Jack no Jealousick Sale. A guy named Sale should be.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Sale sounds like a guy that's just Sal.
Speaker 8: He's just chilling on the airwaves.
Speaker 2: Big Sally.
Speaker 10: He should be working here and and like, yeah, he's
Speaker 10: just like he's I love sales story. This is going
Speaker 10: to be the air when Al Roker lost all the weight.
Speaker 10: I like fat Al, I like my weathermen fat, I
Speaker 10: like my I like to have a rotn guy. Wow,
Speaker 10: he's not ro ton a thicker guy playing first Space.
Speaker 10: It looks good.
Speaker 8: Here's the dude in I'm back in the day. There's
Speaker 8: a few comedians that keep losing weight. I'm like, stop
Speaker 8: doing that. You're funny when you're fat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what about jelly Bean.
Speaker 4: He lost the jelly Roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jelly Bean lost the weight.
Speaker 8: He's lost like three hundred pounds and he's been training
Speaker 8: for five k's and he's not on ozembic.
Speaker 4: He says he's doing it all the right way.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's insane what he's but his body, all
Speaker 10: that weight and now the neck tattoos.
Speaker 2: He looks like a scream mask, like a Skins milking.
Speaker 2: I can't even read that. What is It's like one
Speaker 2: of those Google things where they you have to get
Speaker 2: the pass word with.
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of messy up top the capture thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Sal Stewart, I mean, I think this will
Speaker 8: be the year of Sal and Matteth Plane. He's ready
Speaker 8: for a big comeback year, somebody who's looking to get
Speaker 8: back into it. I was really excited to see this
Speaker 8: guy over the weekend. TJ Antone, I am a TJ gal.
Speaker 8: I've always loved this guy. He has been through it
Speaker 8: with three Tommy John surgery. So finally pitched in a
Speaker 8: reds Uni on Sunday for one inning and he said, look,
Speaker 8: I feel like I'm right back at home. He eased
Speaker 8: right back into it. Tito talked to media after and
Speaker 8: he goes Yeah, he looked great up there. So hopefully
Speaker 8: we'll see TJ an time a lot more of this season.
Speaker 8: Something there is always something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's like baseball's version of Lindsay Vaughn at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8: And if she wouldn't have gotten that surgery, they would
Speaker 8: have cut they had to cut her leg off if
Speaker 8: she wouldn't have so she was gonna have to amputate
Speaker 8: the leg and the way peg get right back out there.
Speaker 8: Forty five years old. Yeah, and poor thing, her dog
Speaker 8: just died. I mean, it doesn't get worse than that.
Speaker 8: So but yeah, TJ Antone says he has a book
Speaker 8: out if you want to do some reading this upcoming
Speaker 8: spring or summer, if you're outside.
Speaker 4: It's a book called The Tommy John Protocol.
Speaker 8: I actually talked to TJ about this at Redsfest and
Speaker 8: it's just basically his experience of like how he's been
Speaker 8: handling the game of baseball mentally, because you know, this
Speaker 8: is taking a mental toll on this guy not being
Speaker 8: able to perform on that mound. So the Tommy John
Speaker 8: Protocol is out, should be a good read.
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 8: Also trending on social media, the NFL Scouting Combine is
Speaker 8: happening in Indie. Your favorites, Zach Taylor and Duke tobinheld
Speaker 8: pressers yesterday.
Speaker 4: They were very exciting as you can imagine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking and of course you know Austin and
Speaker 2: Tony and Moe live at the Combine.
Speaker 8: Nowhere near the Combine, they can you guys actually stay
Speaker 8: away as the home of the Cincinnati Bengals. We don't
Speaker 8: need you here. Yeah, that's amazing that those guys.
Speaker 2: Go to the combos. He was like, Oh, I like
Speaker 2: the pizza flavor.
Speaker 4: Give me the cheese. I do like I do like
Speaker 4: the buffalo and blue cheese.
Speaker 2: I can get down with Snyders pretzel pieces like my
Speaker 2: two favorite.
Speaker 4: Like road Buffalo Snyders.
Speaker 7: I can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds good right now. I can get down
Speaker 4: with some of those on.
Speaker 2: Your way, because that will help you clean your nose out.
Speaker 8: See, I need some of that frankiees I've got. Well,
Speaker 8: there's a bottle of something in here, a little bit
Speaker 8: of guy.
Speaker 2: I'm a story Cincinnati. Okay, just met the lady who
Speaker 2: came up with that.
Speaker 8: I need that.
Speaker 4: I should truly do so.
Speaker 8: Duke was talking about, you know, the Bengals in the
Speaker 8: off season, and he says, we do have all of
Speaker 8: the resources to attack the off season in a big way.
Speaker 2: No, no, you know, thanks.
Speaker 4: And when it comes to Joe Burrow and the.
Speaker 8: Conversations that he's had with him in the off season,
Speaker 8: he's like, yeah, we've talked, but haven't had a chance
Speaker 8: to sit down and do a full debrief.
Speaker 2: How long you wait before doing whatever that? I like,
Speaker 2: I would think you the first week after the season's over, Like, hey,
Speaker 2: take a couple of days, clean your locker. Right, let's
Speaker 2: let's have a sit down.
Speaker 8: But if you've been following Joe Burrow on social media
Speaker 8: or see that he's been trending, he has been everywhere
Speaker 8: but Cincinnati, so probably hard to get a hold of him. Yeah,
Speaker 8: he's been doing some fabulous travels in the off season.
Speaker 8: And I know that we love Dalton Reisner. He's obviously
Speaker 8: a big fan favorite here in Cincinnati. So Duke was
Speaker 8: asked about Dalton kind of like what that looks like
Speaker 8: and if they're gonna be bringing him back. He goes, look,
Speaker 8: he's a great fit, and he said they're they've been
Speaker 8: talking to him and they're gonna try to see if
Speaker 8: they can get something done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bring bring Dalton back.
Speaker 2: You need something.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 8: And then as Zach Taylor, they talked to him and
Speaker 8: they said, uh, yeah, He's like, it feels weird. It's
Speaker 8: a little strange to be the own coach in the
Speaker 8: AFC North that didn't get cut.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he does feel strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's got all the coaches in the a
Speaker 2: f C North. I thought for sure i'd be the
Speaker 2: guy getting fired after the season, but I'm the only
Speaker 2: one left over here.
Speaker 8: And if you remember that very lengthy Duke Tobin presser
Speaker 8: that we had after the regular season, I mean, he's
Speaker 8: he had nothing but good things to say about Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8: He's like, I love the coaching stuff. I'm happy with
Speaker 8: Zach and he's great. So anyways, I don't think we're
Speaker 8: gonna have Joe Flacco back, but they are in the
Speaker 8: hunt for a rookie.
Speaker 2: She is the critically ill Sarah Lee.
Speaker 4: On the show that's trying to get through today.
Speaker 2: It's the report. Oh my god, it just came. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, it was like a volcano.
Speaker 4: Good luck with this, Mic Soud, don't put lava over here.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. It's like this green
Speaker 2: just grew all over that microphone.
Speaker 4: All right, kind of sexy stuff here in the studio today.
Speaker 4: So anyway, go Reds. They're back at it today.
Speaker 8: I believe they're on these airwaves right at three h
Speaker 8: five pitch against the White Sox about it, no doubt,
Speaker 8: Baby Dolo on the mountin today.
Speaker 2: Share a release back at one of two seven EBN
Speaker 2: tomorrow out of guilt for no other reason, uh huh,
Speaker 2: grinded it out as the game. Baby. I believe Willie
Speaker 2: or Dan Carroll or Ken Bruce, somebody's coming.
Speaker 4: On next Mike or maybe and I they want us
Speaker 4: to sail down.
Speaker 2: Oh it is Willy. Willy's back to oh because last
Speaker 2: night I gotta talk to the America.
Speaker 4: That's why I gotta talk.
Speaker 2: To the American. That's the greatest speech ever.
Speaker 4: Did you watch all one hour and forty seven minutes?
Speaker 1: Sleep?
Speaker 2: I really I passed out. I'm good over the Red
Speaker 2: seven hundred Wtvety, Cincinnati,