1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: We common Spirit health text line fash Shelby Harris joining 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: us here at the bottom of the hour. Get his 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on the big win for Cleveland, also what he 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: saw with the Broncos comeback win over the Giants. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: As I mentioned a little bit. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Ago, he texted me right afterwards, and so I know 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: he has some thoughts. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Rod Smith in studio after five o'clock. He'll definitely have 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: some thoughts, as I had Nick Ferguson in studio yesterday 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: and he was telling me about some of the alumni's 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: frustrations during the first three quarters of the game. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: So maybe Rod has some suggestions or. 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Ideas on how we can fix things, cause you can't 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: keep doing this and hoping to get away with it. 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: But again, I'd much rather have a team in the 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: end that has a belief internally that as long as 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: there's still time left on the clock, they could probably 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: find a way to win. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'd like the fact a start. I think 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: everybody would like that. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: But on the other side of this, I'd much rather 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: be in this situation at five and two and know 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: you can work on that than be on the other 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: side of it. I've seen some people on Twitter and 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: otherwise arguing, well, you know, they probably should lose these 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: games so they can have a lesson taught to them. 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense to me. I think you 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: can still learn plenty of lessons. This is a professional football, 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: professional sports in general. You can learn plenty of lessons 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: in wins. And even Sean Payton said after the game, Yeah, 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: we'll celebrate this tonight, but it's not going to be 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: a pleasant film session tomorrow. And I don't know about 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: you guys, but that's in a hill down my spine, 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: because you know Sean, the look on his face. I mean, 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Nick Benito had to tell him to smile. He just 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: came back and scored thirty three points in the fourth 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: quarter and one on the Marius Thomas day, and you 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: needed your star edge rusher to tell you to smile. 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: That's how unhappy he was. So I guarantee that film 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: session wasn't a pleasant one. Speaking of Nick Benito, he 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: was on the Kate Adams Show earlier today, said a 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of cool things. 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: Honestly said, you. 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Know, he's some nice things about bo Nicks and the belief. Again, 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: don't we want that? We want the belief and the quarterback. 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, some fans are not quite there yet understandably, 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: but the team believes in them and that for me 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: is enough, at least for now. But Nick Benito was 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: asked about Jackson Dart because obviously there was a lot 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: of back and forth with the players, especially Nick Benido 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Cooper and the Giants and Giants fans and 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: all that. 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: But here's what he had to say about Jackson Dark. 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I had to give him credit, and 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: he's a lot better than you know, we all thought that, 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: you know, he was when we played against him. He 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: was obviously a really good player at coming into the game. 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: But just I feel like he's still for the game 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: and his you know, ability to be able to move, 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: maneuver of the pocket and make plays on the run. 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: And you know, we even had a plan for it 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: all week to be able to you know, have eyes 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: on him and rush them the right way, and he 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: was still able to go around and make plays. So, 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: you know, I was really impressed with them. Man, you know, 67 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: I know, you know, you know, here goes on. He's 68 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: gonna be a really good player. 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Man. 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: He's definitely gonna be something you're gonna have to watch out. 71 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: For in the league. 72 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I actually like Jackson Dart too, right, And 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we have to apologize for players we 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: like or don't like. You know, people say, wow, he 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: just reminds me of a Drew Lock and you know, 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: maybe what he's doing isn't sustainable. 77 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: What we did talk about that last week. Same thing 78 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: with Cam Scataboo. 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I think there's some things they're doing that you know, 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: you you don't know if. 81 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: That's gonna last. 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: But I at the same time, there's a moxy to him, 83 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: and I maybe that is how I felt about Drew Locke, right. 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: We would break down games with him and say, yeah, 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's a swagger to his game. It's infectious, 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: it's fun, and the team responds to it. And more 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: than anything, what fans think, it's how the team responds 88 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: and they're rallying around this guy. They really like Jackson 89 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: Dart and they believe in him. And I think there's 90 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: enough experience there in college and otherwise that he's gonna 91 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: be able to show something. So Yeah, I've been going 92 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: back and forth with people on Twitter today because I 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: quote tweeted the akeep to lead Richie Incognito video where 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: Richie Incognito was arguing over and over and over again 95 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: about how Jackson Dart is the next franchise quarterback for 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the Giants, which is fine, but it is supplemental argument is, well, 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: look what he did for three quarters. It's like that 98 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: means nothing, man, three quarters in the NFL is nothing, 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: and you playing in the NFL should know that. But 100 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: anybody that is a fan of the league should absolutely 101 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: know that. 102 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: And we've had too many lessons even just this year. 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: On last second field goal blocks or change of possessions. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And I mean last night's games weren't that way because 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Detroit handled Tampa Bay. A little surprised by that by 106 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: the way, tip of the cap to to Detroit. Their 107 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: secondary was decimated and they played great against very very 108 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: hot Tampa Bay team. And then last night, same thing 109 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: with Seattle. Seattle just absolutely blasted. They had four turnovers 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: in the game and they still won handily against the 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. So though those are more rarities to what 112 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the NFL is now. But anyways, I've been interacting with the 113 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: Giants fans all day. Their kind of tail took between 114 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: their legs for the most part on what happened in 115 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the game. It definitely takes the wind down of your 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: sales to lose the way they lost. But there's some 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: things that are worth building on there, and you'll get 118 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: neighbors back. 119 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Next year. 120 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: You'll probably draft, maybe even trade for more talented wide receivers. 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of options there for the 122 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: Giants going forward. But for now, you're two and five 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: and you got to somehow build off that five six 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: six nine zeros. 125 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: A KWA commisparate heal text on this tech, which is funny. 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: So my buddy was has season tickets to the Broncos 127 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: and tattoos all over his arms and everywhere, and it's 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: such a big fan and he left in the third quarter. 129 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I listen, I we got some people talking about that 130 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: during Broncos react on Satday Night, didn't. 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you feel bad. 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I actually feel more sympathy for that than like point 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and laugh and make fun of or whatever. I mean, 134 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of the whole fandom thing. And 135 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: I've said told you guys for a long time, I'm 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: never gonna tell a fan had a fan. But you 137 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: get frustrated you're disappointed at the urgency or disappointed at 138 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: the performance, and you're at that point you're just like, 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I can't watch this anymore. 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: I just can't do it. 141 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: I know I have friends that turned it off the 142 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: TV on at least on the TV, right, I mean 143 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: they are turned off the radio. Just couldn't do it, 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: just couldn't hack it any longer. Not Nathaniel Hackett obviously, 145 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: just just couldn't hang in there any longer with the 146 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: team not looking their best, not looking like they cared 147 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: as much as you did. And then, of course the 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: fourth quarter happened, and I had a lot of people 149 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: hitting me up during the course of the game too 150 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: that were saying, well, why aren't you being more critical, 151 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Why aren't you calling them out? 152 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Why aren't you you know, like, like then, Allbreight likes 153 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: to do right. 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: He likes to round the bases when when bad things 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: are happening to certain people, he likes to take the 156 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to point it out to everybody. 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: And that's his style. 158 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: My style is a little more wait and see you 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: get to the end of the game and all right, 160 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: it's the clock of zeros, let's go at it. 161 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: But ben In is fully blanket all brightness. It's a term. 162 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Now he does it a little bit different, which is fine. 163 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: He's got his fans, and you know, I'm happy for 164 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: him with that. But more than anything, you let these 165 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: things play out in the Broncos. The think of nothing else. 166 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: And this is kind of the ultimate point. I when 167 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: it gets to here and then we come back and 168 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: want to get brit Vin some credit on something, which 169 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: is kind of a weird juxtaposition. But this team has 170 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: shown you that it's not over till it's over. Right, 171 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm the Rocky on you, but it's not over till 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: it's over. You get to Zeros, then you really know 173 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: what the outcome is. And they've had several games now 174 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: and including a loss against the Colts where it came 175 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: down to the final moments. The Chargers another one the 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: final moments. It was a negative, but it was clock 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: with Zeros win. That field goal kick went through for 178 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: both games. Watch to the end across the board this season, 179 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Watch to the end. You're gonna have to because I 180 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna be able to make up your 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: mind or decisions on what this. 182 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: Team is or isn't until the clock hit Zeros. We'll 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: be right back. We're gonna hear. 184 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: From Woody Johnson, the Jets owner, as he throw one 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: of his quarterbacks under the bus. 186 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: We'll get to that next. 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Well text, though, I want to get to you very quickly, Ryan, 188 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I went to the majority of 189 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: the games in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. 190 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: I love them. 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: The fans are so finicky. They were so mean to Peyton. 192 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: He's a person, he's a human being. We all have faults, 193 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: we have, Okay. I knew these Broncos fans were going 194 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: to come back. I had a feeling. Oh sorry, the Broncos, 195 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: not fans. Sorry, I knew we were Okay, the Broncos 196 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: were going to come back. I had that feeling, and 197 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: I've had that feeling many times before. I should be 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: a betting person, but I'm not. But I knew they 199 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: were going to come back. And that is the key. 200 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: And it's not over till it's over. Next one, the 201 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills came back from fifteen point deficit to beat 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Earlier this season, Josh Allen told Bill's Mafia 203 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: that he wished they had had more faith. I was 204 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: there on Sunday and was so glad I stayed till 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the game was over. Hopefully US Broncos fans will believe 206 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: anything as possible. Listen, I like I said, I'm not 207 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: going to give Broncos fans a hard time if if 208 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: they felt like and then there was some imagine there 209 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: were some alumni there was otherwise that also felt as 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: though once Tyrone Tracy ran in that thirty yard touchdown, 211 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: it was kind of over at that point. That was 212 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: probably the first moment for me that I didn't think 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: they were going to cut back now. When they made 214 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: it nineteen eight there at the beginning of the fourth quarter, 215 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, hey, there's still a quarter 216 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: football to we played. And then of course it was 217 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: twenty six to eight off the deflected touchdown, and then 218 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: then it kind of felt once again back to the 219 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: nineteen zero feeling. But the fact that they were able 220 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: to come back and do everything they did, and of 221 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: course the Giants had to collapse simultaneously, it was pretty cool. 222 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: It was pretty special, and hopefully we're in for a 223 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: lot more special seasons. 224 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: I'd like to say, though, on a side note, I. 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Would love for at least my blood pressure and my 226 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: health if there were there were a few games mixed 227 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: in where you felt good about the outcome going into 228 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and didn't have to wait till the 229 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: final seconds. Just throwing that out there. What did Johnson 230 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: at the owners meeting earlier today going off on justin fields. 231 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: What you're confidence level and Aaron to turn it around. 232 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: It looks like he's turning around parts of it. 233 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: You know, it's hard when you have a quarterback with 234 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: you know, with a rating that you know they've got, 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, he has the ability, but something 236 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: just does not drive. And but if you look at 237 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: any any head coach of a quarterback like that, you're 238 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 5: going to see similar results if. 239 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: You go across the league. 240 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: You have to play consistently with kind of at that position. 241 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 5: And that's what we're going to try to do the 242 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: remainder of the season. So long as someone gives you hope, 243 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: then I just think defense rusher teams are going better. 244 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Defense is pretty good. 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 5: But you can just complete a pass, it would look good. 246 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: You gotta complete some. 247 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 5: Parently, you gotta convince him that you can do something. 248 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: Otherwise it's hard to have. You know, I'll have a 249 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: game that you know you could win. 250 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: So I think this was actually a really bad look 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: by Woody Johnson. I mean, he's intelligence in their opinion, 252 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: but I think this is a really bad look. 253 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: You're paying the guy. 254 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: It's a two year, forty million dollar contract with thirty 255 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. That's what you brought him in here this 256 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: year for, and you may have to go back to 257 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: him at some point. Tarrod Taylor apparently is going to 258 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: be the next Jets quarterback per multiple reports out of 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: New York that they're gonna turn over to Torod Taylor. So 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe Woody Johnson felt justified in taking his shots to 261 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. You're paying this guy thirty million guaranteed, and 262 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: he might you might have to go back to him. 263 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: What are you doing? You're the owner, Hey, throw your 264 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: support behind Aaron Glynn. I thought that was good. 265 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: You heard him say, and he said in another sound bite, 266 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: and he likes some of the things that Aaron Glenn's doing. 267 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: He said, they have cleaned up some things in the 268 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: organization with Aaron Glynn. But then to go there and say, well, 269 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: suffer him to win games when you can't really complete passes. 270 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: I mean, sure there's some truth to that. 271 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not and Ben has been all 272 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: over it saying that Justin Fields is not a very 273 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: good quarterback. Are you fine? But you're the owner of 274 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: the football team. It's gotta be a little bit to korum, right, 275 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: There's gotta be a little bit of taking the high road, 276 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: understanding that you're talking about an active player on your roster. 277 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: That again, by the way, you're paying tens of millions 278 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: of dollars to that makes no sense to me. 279 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: So I imagine some. 280 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: People, Jets fans and ake will probably celebrate Woody Johnson 281 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: telling the truth, But I don't want my owner. 282 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: I am so glad we're where. 283 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: We at because I can't even imagine that'd be in 284 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: a conversation that Greg Penner would ever address. 285 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: He would always back his people. That's the right thing 286 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: to do. 287 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris joins us next, including our next guest here. 288 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Shelby Harris was part of that. So, Shelby, how are 289 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: you man? 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: Man? It was such a good win. I lost my boys. 291 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: See, I thought you lost your voice because you were 292 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: screaming about the Broncos went over the Giants, you know. 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: Organ My Brewers got dominated no, No, it's been uh 294 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: you know, at least got dominated. We got the win, 295 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: I can be asked. 296 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I hope the side note. First of all, 297 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about your birds. I hope you didn't blame 298 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: your wife like you were a couple of weeks ago. 299 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: Man that that that wasn't it. 300 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: No, it wasn't time this time. I'm just blaming major league. 301 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: I'm in the whole league. 302 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 303 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: That Dodgers team, that Dodger team is ridiculous. 304 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: They really are. 305 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: And and in those first couple of games with the pitching, 306 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, and then the final with show 307 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: hey go, that's just uh, that's brutal. 308 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: Man. 309 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I almost to say, you know, the Dodgers, the Dodgers 310 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: are a wagon. And I don't know who do you 311 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: very early, very early, who do you like? The Dodgers 312 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: are the blue Jays? 313 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: I don't know anyone can go against the Dodgers right now. Yeah, 314 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: just what their combination of pitching, hit, and just what 315 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: that star power ready to come out at any moment 316 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: and shine. Obviously the blue Jays, you know, with Springer 317 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: hitting that seventh inning three run home run to take 318 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: the lead against the Mariners. That's that's the type of 319 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: the stuff that Dodgers do too, So you have to 320 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: heavy weights going at each other. But I got to 321 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: day the Dodgers want to win. 322 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you heard it here first. 323 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: And I told Dave that I before the any of 324 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs started, that I had the Dodgers winning it. 325 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, of course, I'm pulling for the Brewers 326 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: and pulling forth Seattle. I think there were some fun stories, 327 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: really fun stories in this postseason. But you know, he's 328 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: just one of those like I talked to bottom, where's 329 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: the flaw? Where's the flaw on this team? And Dave's 330 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: making fun of me because now here we are in 331 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: the World Series and he's like, well, picking the best 332 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: team in baseball to win it all isn't exactly revolutionary, Ryan, 333 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: It's not. 334 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: But you know, the Dodgers, you know, we talked so 335 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: much trash about them to the season, and you know, 336 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: they went through the bad stretches. They're just we always 337 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: say this when it comes to playoff time, it's whoever 338 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: gets hot, and they got hot, and they have talent 339 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: a lot of talent, but they got hot, and a 340 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: team like that to get hot. They're starting to think 341 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: people get blown out, beat down or you saw the 342 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 4: Browers look like a minor league team. But that's how 343 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: I just candy when they're playing like this. 344 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: No doubt. 345 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 4: Man. 346 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, I won't keep you too long, so I know 347 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: that that that you're you're trying to get your voice back. 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: I just want to last couple here for you, man, 349 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: so I'll go to the Broncos game. You texted me 350 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: right afterwards, like, what just happened? I don't know, man, 351 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: the NFL is weird. I told you that, I think 352 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: of My response was the NFL's wild. I really had 353 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: very little words to say, even though I have to 354 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: do a three hour post game afterwards. 355 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: What was your reaction to that game? 356 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: I just I just truly so that DT was there 357 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: and had it just out that fourth quarter like they 358 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: had help. You know, it was just well that that 359 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: happened once. That's a special day for you have the 360 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: full fifty, all the the players coming back. You know, 361 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: you got the DT remembrance and the veiling of the 362 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: Ring of Fame like that was that was huge. But 363 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: then also, dude, the Giants defense needs to be ashamed 364 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: of themselves, like you got it was nineteen to zero 365 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, and a lot of the vocals 366 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 4: to scored thirty three in the fourth like wow, also 367 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: and that same thing, I would as shot Dayton what 368 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 4: happened obviously, like what happened? I just with the script 369 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter and just try to go on 370 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: because do that all game. Don't wait the figure down 371 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: that much. I do it all game. But man, that 372 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: was an exciting game. 373 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was an exciting game, and I'm a hun 374 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: person with you and a lot of the calls, I mean, 375 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: it was an emotional moment for a lot of fans afterwards. 376 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: It's not only just the comeback, but what de Marius Thomas. 377 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: Meant to this fan base and meant to that locker 378 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: room and then to a person, and of course you 379 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: played here. Everybody surrounded him, talked about the person, talked 380 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: about what he meant on the field. I just think 381 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: that there was sort of a heart moment for the 382 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: fan base, and the fact that they were able to 383 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: come back and win that game the way they did 384 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: was really remarkable. 385 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: You well, I think the best thing actually hearing you 386 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 4: know when we talk about DT and you know, it's 387 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: impoten he's talking about how amazing of a person he was, 388 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: and I think that is the only thing that matters. 389 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: You know, football does not matter when we talk about 390 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: how great of a guy DT was and what he 391 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: meant to people in the Denver area. Football butnot He 392 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: was a figurehead at the Boys and Girls Club. He 393 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: always gave his time. Like it's very rare when you 394 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: see a team called his stature give as much time 395 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: as he did. And I just don't want that to do. 396 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: Lass Peach one greatment, one of a great human man, 397 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: and I think that's the most important thing. 398 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Perfectly said, Hey, you guys got the Patriots coming up 399 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday at Foxborough. Drake May, Drake May's playing pretty 400 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: good football, man. I mean, you know, he hasn't played 401 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: the Browns yet, so I mean we don't we don't 402 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: know what you are until you play the Browns at 403 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Browns defensive fronts. But and I say that necessarily, man, 404 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: you guys are crushing it up front. But yeah, he 405 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: is one of the MVP candidates so far this season. 406 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: They said five and two was that Patriots offense looked. 407 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: Like man, you know, it's it's a classic. Like Mike 408 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: brable offense, except that they have a young star at quarterback. 409 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: You know, you've always had he's had different quarterbacks where 410 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: you haven't had a guy like Drake's made before. So 411 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: it's a classic brave offense. So we're going into a 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: physical you were going to make you quit, And I 413 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: think that's what we should expect the Browns defense is 414 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: that they're going to try to help this school us. 415 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: They're going to you know, and I can't wait for 416 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: that talents. But then on top of that, imagine those 417 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: old Tennessee offenses with Derick Henry houses right at you. 418 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: But then now you have playing throward back there with 419 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: Drake May who can take heavy throw in the field. 420 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: So that just changes the game. So you have an 421 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: offense where that that ties himself from being physical. But 422 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: then on but then you have a quarterback that can 423 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: really take shots all over the field, and that's what 424 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: makes them so dangerous. And then their defense is then't 425 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: playing great too. That that probably the most one of 426 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: the most surprising teams in football right now. But if 427 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: you know Mike Vapel, they're like, that's that's exactly in 428 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: their mold of him right now. And that's why they're 429 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: playing like that. 430 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: We'll rust up your voice, my friend. 431 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Love checking in with you every single week and obviously 432 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: appreciate you. 433 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us. 434 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate it all right. 435 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris bull out his voice, beat the Dolphins and 436 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: watching his Brewers lose. That is tough. I get the 437 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: sweat and sho ha o tani. Oh my god, that 438 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: performance in Game four is like. 439 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: An all timer. 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we are sort of knee deep 441 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: in NFL season and football, and we talked about that 442 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: predominantly NBA seasons starting tonight, we'll obviously get in some 443 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Nuggets. Is the days come up here there? 444 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: They're playing on Thursday night opening the season. But yeah, 445 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: that was Yeah, there's nothing comparing to it. There's nothing compared. 446 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: I can't think of an athlete. I mean, I guess 447 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: prime Tiger, but in my lifetime, that was that dominant 448 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: at what they do. 449 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: Lebron's had some moments. 450 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: Certainly Michael Ryan, Michael Jordan is in that category. But 451 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: what show Hay is doing on both sides of the plays. Yeah, 452 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: what do you say? And you heard Shelby there talking 453 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: about it in that series, you just sort of tip 454 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: the cap. 455 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: What else youemed to say? 456 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean that they're the better team the Brewers had 457 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: gotten to the NLCS on which was complete baseball, right, 458 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean good pitching, solid hitting, I mean taking advantage 459 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: of moments. 460 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: They're a good team. They're a very good team. 461 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: But the Dodgers are just they're on that level, and 462 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: of course it sucks because they're in the NLS or 463 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: the Rockies play. I was not to say that there's 464 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: no hope ever for the Rockies. I'm not gonna turn 465 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: this into a Rocky segment or a pro Rocky segment. 466 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: I know that the. 467 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Opinions on the Rockies is not very high right now, 468 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: but there's still a path to be relevant, competitive and 469 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: just get into the dance and see what happens. Shelby's 470 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: long said that he wants to see a salary floor 471 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: for baseball, and I'm I'm in agreement with him. I 472 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: don't need we don't need to cap these teams necessarily, 473 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: but have everybody spinned up to a certain level. Yes, 474 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: and that's not even in a shot at the Rockies 475 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: because they tend to be in the top twenty. Is 476 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: spending sometimes even top fifteen, but not all of baseball, 477 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: is right. The athletics come to mind. I think they 478 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: spend less than anybody. You need to have a salary 479 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: floor for the sports to be competitive across the building, 480 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that the NFL and 481 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: sometimes the NBA does have. The NHL two. By the way, 482 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the ABS want to start for the AS. I don't 483 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: think they've lost a game in regulation yet, that's unbelievable. 484 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: Anyways, good stuff with Shelby. 485 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: What Rod Smith here in studio in about fifteen minutes 486 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: five six six nine zeros or kwa kmasprayhal text. I 487 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: want to get to a couple of texts here before 488 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: we get to the top of the hour, because we 489 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: reacted to it in the first hour. If you missed 490 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: it with Dave, the Russell Wilson text that he sent 491 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: out right before our show started nine pm. He tweeted 492 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: out classless but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty 493 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: hunting fifteen plus years later through the media hashtag let's 494 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: ride obviously going after Sean Payton, and it's in response 495 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: to what Sean had said in the postgame. 496 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: And actually, if you missed it. I'll go ahe and 497 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: play it for you. 498 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: This is what Sean Payton said in the postgame talking 499 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: about Jackson Dark. 500 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: I have a ton of respect for that organization. 501 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 7: I spent four of my early years there coordinating Super 502 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 7: Bowl first time, first game in this stadium before nine 503 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 7: to eleven close with the Marrittish family, and. 504 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 6: You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback. 505 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 6: I was talking to John Mayor not too long ago, 506 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 6: and I said, we were hoping that that change would 507 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 6: have happened long long after our game. 508 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: Now. 509 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: I have a couple of thoughts on this, okay, and 510 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier, but I a couple more 511 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: thoughts before we have rodden studio. 512 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: On one hand, I think you could take the high 513 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: road there. 514 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: It's been years, like one year and a half in 515 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: you got your quarterback in the future in the first 516 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: round in bo Nicks. Everybody's moved on. Russ has moved on. 517 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: He's now on to his second team since leaving the Broncos. 518 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Not playing right now, but that's just sort of what 519 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: it is. They turned to the rookie, and they justifiably 520 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: should have. Jackson Dart looks better than Russell Wilson. That's 521 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: an objective fact. On the other side, that personality of his, 522 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: with the pettiness, I don't know. 523 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: Man. 524 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Dave had said something earlier that I keep thinking about 525 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: about the competitiveness and how sort of you you can 526 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: bottle up the competitiveness of the NFL, and I'd say 527 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: a lot of professional sports, but specifically the NFL the 528 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: compete level of these guys, and you could sell it. 529 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a gold mine. Well, Sean Payton is 530 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: one of the most competitive people. I mean, you just 531 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: have a conversation with him and you understand he competes 532 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: at everything and even competes to be right on things 533 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: that don't seem to matter to a lot of people, 534 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: and this is something that still obviously matters to him. 535 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: He wants to be right about this. 536 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: He wants to continue to show everybody he was right 537 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: about this. Did not like Russell Wilson's pretty obvious at 538 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: this point, and so he took the shot. They've argued 539 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: he will have some plausible deniability. Be fascinating to see 540 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: what he says tomorrow, because he didn't actually mention Russ 541 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: by name. He just was more propping up Jackson Dart. 542 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: But everybody took it as a shot at Russ. Everybody 543 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: took it as a shot of Russ. And then when 544 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: Russ sweet this out today than everybody, of course, even 545 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: though he doesn't mention Sean Payton, he immediately said, okay, well, 546 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: this is obviously about Sean, especially since he meant, you know, 547 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: said bounty hunting fifteen plus years. You don't have to 548 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: be a rocket scientist to tie that all together. And 549 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: then he the hashtag Let's ride. That was actually more 550 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: painful than anything. I really wanted to move on from that. 551 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: Broncos Country, Let's ride, Broncos Country, Let's ride, Broncos Country. 552 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: Let's ride. 553 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: I wonder if he did it in his head like 554 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: that as he's sitting out of the tweet he's thinking 555 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: about I hope he takes it like. 556 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: This, like let's ride. No, no, no, I hope he takes 557 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: it like let's ride. 558 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 559 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: I liked the versions in his head, or more like deeper, 560 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: let's run. Anyways, So, like I said, I'll have two minds. Initially, 561 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: take the high road. It's over, it's gone. On the 562 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: other side, I do appreciate Sean's pettiness and that pettiness 563 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: has probably served him well over the. 564 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: Course of his time in the NFL and otherwise play better. Right. 565 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: I wonder how many times he told that to Sean 566 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: to Russ so. 567 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: He sort of whatever, it's gonna be fun here in 568 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: the news cycle tomorrow when he does his press conference, 569 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: it'll be a lot of people locally and nationally tuning 570 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: in to see what he has to say. 571 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: And I'm fascinated as well. I have no idea. 572 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: He could deflect it, he could be dismissive, he could 573 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: lean into it. I quite literally don't know, because he 574 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: is who he is. I don't know what Sean's gonna do. 575 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: A couple of texts, though. It's such a bad look 576 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: when our coach does it, especially with how classy this 577 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: organization has been for so long, even worse on alumni weekend. 578 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: I can't believe there isn't more pushback. 579 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure our owners are unhappy with coaches taking digs 580 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: at players to an obsessive degree. 581 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, on one hand, maybe 582 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: Greg Pinner. 583 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Has some not so happy feelings about it, But on 584 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: the other hand, maybe he just says I know what 585 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Sean is and this will be gone out of the 586 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: news cycle. 587 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: You just got to keep winning. 588 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I would say this if they were a an under 589 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: five hundred team right now, maybe the ownership feels a 590 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: little bit different about it. But because you're five and two, 591 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of like, who cares? We're winning 592 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: and if you can get this win against the Dallas Cowboys, 593 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna be. 594 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: Six and two and we're rolling. 595 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you already won four straight, but you get 596 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Houston watching them last night, that is not a 597 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: good team right now. You're gonna be getting them at 598 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: the exact right time. I believe they got Las Vegas 599 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: and they got Kansas City and then a bye week. 600 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Have four games until the bye. What can your record 601 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: be in these four games? You split them. Let's just 602 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: start for argument sake. Hey, hey, go to and two. 603 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Even if your losses to Dallas and Kansas City, if 604 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: you get Houston to Las Vegas, you're sitting at eight 605 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: and four the over. 606 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, seven and four, Matt's on my thing. Yeah, you 607 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: like the over? I like that. That's good. 608 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you should and could go three and 609 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: one maybe, well I won't go too far, but it 610 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: would be great. Over, Nice, Grand, It'd be great to 611 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: get the Kansas City game because it's here in Denver, right, 612 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean that that would be a big one because 613 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: you got Thursday night football against Las Vegas here in Denver, 614 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: and then home against Kansas City. So and these were 615 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: all home, I mean all with the exception of the 616 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Houston game. So we have three home and went away 617 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: in this stretch. Grant maybe, right, maybe you can't get 618 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: the over exactly. The point of it is is if 619 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: they weren't playing well, and some would argue they're not, 620 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: but if they weren't winning, I guess this is what 621 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: I should say. Then I think this would be a 622 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: much bigger deal, maybe to some of the powers that 623 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: be over at the Broncos. 624 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 4: Um. 625 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: Let's see here, let's ride the Russ bench. Another one. 626 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize Russell Wilson was still in the NFL. Nice, 627 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: Let's right, that's right. 628 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm on Russ's side. Sean is a is an overrated coach? 629 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: All right? 630 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: Your tell it to the opinion. Should I put bulls 631 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: in my flex position in fantasy? I don't know. 632 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: I tried to get that commitment from him earlier, as 633 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about it. Honestly, if you play in 634 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: a league where Garrett Boles is on waivers right now, 635 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: what league do you play it? I have heard of 636 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: I've never played in one, obviously, you guys know I 637 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: play a lot of fantasy. I have heard of leagues 638 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: that you can draft offensive lineman, and then, of course 639 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: I imagine there are certain measurables that give you pluses and minuses, 640 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: Like if they give up a sack, that'd be a negative, 641 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: and they get like a pancake block or something, maybe 642 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: that's a positive. But yeah, I don't know if you 643 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: can get an offensive lineman in there that can get 644 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns on most leagues. By the way, it was a 645 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: really fun interview with Garrett. I mean, he's always great, 646 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: but it was a really fun interview. I highly suggest 647 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: you go check it out at Kawacollorado dot com. Here 648 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: in a little bit, all right, we come back, Rod 649 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Smith will be in studio. I have no idea what 650 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: direction this is gonna go. He could be in a 651 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: fabulous mood because they won, or he could be in 652 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: an awful mood because of what happened in the first 653 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: three chords. I don't even know if he stayed for 654 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: the whole game. We're gonna find out coming up next