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Speaker 1: Six. Okay, boys, are you ready to go or what?

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Speaker 1: Let's roll six seven? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome my guys, Maddie and Damon the after.

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Speaker 3: Show podcast from Power of Recovery, of course, And the

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Speaker 3: reason they were saying six seven.

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Speaker 1: Is because can I tease the video?

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Speaker 3: Well if the phone number for Power of Recovery has

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Speaker 3: a six and a seven in it? Right, So they

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Speaker 3: did a little video there, you know, saying the number.

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Speaker 1: But with six seven, that was a good idea. Whose

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Speaker 1: idea was that?

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Speaker 4: I'll take credit? But I don't even know them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: It's all Damon, right, what do they say? He's the

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Speaker 1: rain I mean, I mean it's tough man.

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Speaker 2: I count a lot of stuff. I'm good accounting.

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Speaker 1: You are good.

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Speaker 3: You're like a rain Man numbers guy. Yeah right, yeah. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: welcome in, guys. People are very excited to have you here.

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Speaker 3: We have some questions from our listeners for you, guys

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Speaker 3: and recovery related.

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Speaker 1: But I want to get to know what's up with you?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Anything good? Anything new?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, talk about it, big guy. Let them know.

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Speaker 4: We just open up and adolescent mental health in Danvas.

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Speaker 4: It's called Power of Hope.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're sticking with the power thing. Yeah, Now, whose

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Speaker 3: idea was that? Matt, Damon's that's the big guy.

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Speaker 2: I can't take any credit for that. I'll take that one.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: You have Power Recovery, which is obviously addiction.

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Speaker 3: Addiction treatment treatment, right, this is totally this is mental health, yes,

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Speaker 3: which is so like, whose idea was that?

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Speaker 1: Was it your idea? No?

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Speaker 4: One of our partners came to us and she's amazing

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Speaker 4: had this idea, and me and Damon had to know

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Speaker 4: how we put it all together. We have an unbelievable

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Speaker 4: team over there. Yeah, you know, it's just going great.

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Speaker 1: So it's open now, open now, Okay.

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Speaker 4: It's ten Elm Street.

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Speaker 1: Is there a website? How do we get people if

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Speaker 1: they need help?

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Speaker 2: It is Power of Hope m a dot com.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so it's a person.

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Speaker 5: In it's an outpatient but it's in person and virtual

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Speaker 5: and it's like, like to be clear, it's strictly mental

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Speaker 5: health and it's also strictly for adolescents. So we we

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Speaker 5: focused a lot of energy on on our other stuff,

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Speaker 5: you know, dealing with adults, and understood there was there

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Speaker 5: was a you know, real need for kids that are

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Speaker 5: struggling with with different mental health, you know, between anxiety, stress,

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Speaker 5: eating disorders, any of that stuff, you know. And and

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Speaker 5: when I Patna came to us and and suggests this,

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Speaker 5: and and she has a quite a bit of a

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Speaker 5: background in the in the field with working with adolescents already,

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Speaker 5: you know, we were like, wow, what can we do.

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Speaker 2: To support this? How can we get this thing off

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Speaker 2: the ground?

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it, especially in today's world, you know, yet

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Speaker 3: with the youngsters, social media, the internet. Yeah, my son

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Speaker 3: he has some issues. You know, It's we're working on,

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Speaker 3: really not easy.

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Speaker 1: So that's amazing, That's that's true.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I said to my wife too.

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Speaker 5: You know, I got four children myself, and and you know,

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Speaker 5: one of them's fourteen, And I was like, hey, we

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Speaker 5: have we can't even begin to imagine what it's like

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Speaker 2: To what it was like for us growing up. The

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Speaker 5: Everything so much closer with the social media and the internet,

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Speaker 5: Like you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: My kids only eight, he's already dealing with it.

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Speaker 3: He has kids Messenger, and he's already you know, dealing

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Speaker 3: with things like bullying and it's a whole thing. But

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Speaker 3: you know, I was in adolescent facilities as well, both

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go. We love these dude, this

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Speaker 2: is such a blessing.

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Speaker 3: I want to get your your input on this, on

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Speaker 3: whether or not you think this kind of treatment still exists.

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Speaker 1: This is a one true story.

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Speaker 3: I was in a I guess I could just say

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Speaker 3: where it is. It's still there, legend McLain hospital. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: been there, Yeah, you've been there. Yeah. So they had

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Speaker 3: an adolescent program. It was my very first program. I

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Speaker 3: had just turned fourteen. I might have been thirteen, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I was having obviously I was diagnosed with all

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Speaker 1: So my parents put me in there. I had a

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Speaker 3: So I'm in this facility with these kids and it was.

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Speaker 1: A great program.

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Speaker 3: Right, We had groups all day, all this stuff, but

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Speaker 3: there was one group in particular that I'll never ever forget.

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Speaker 3: and he used to travel with the Grateful Dead. It

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Speaker 3: There was a van leaving, but they only had one seat.

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Speaker 3: So he said to his friend, you know. His friend said, no,

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Speaker 3: rid I see in the next city. Well, during that ride,

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Speaker 3: the people in the van injected him with heroin, right,

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Speaker 3: in this group that we had, we had to reenact

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Speaker 1: In the van.

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Speaker 3: I was the driver. I was the driver up the bus. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So they set up the chairs like a bus and

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Speaker 3: and then another kid pretended to be his friend, and

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Speaker 3: and then he was a chance for him to say

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Speaker 3: I love you. Imagine I'm fucking thirteen years old, like traumatized.

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Speaker 2: I don't know much, but I'm not really sure they

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Speaker 1: I don't they do that anymore? Right, isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: I hope not.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go want a limb here and say that

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Speaker 3: they don't do that at power of hope.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you on that and say

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Speaker 5: we stare away from the trauma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, try not to add to the trauma.

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Speaker 3: That's certainly not what it traumatized me. I'm still talking

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Speaker 3: that years later, probably, I would say at least ten

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Speaker 3: and there was a kid in the corner on the

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Speaker 3: ground with his head down for like two hours run.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't say nothing to me. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing, just his head down.

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Speaker 3: And finally he picks his head up and I look

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Speaker 1: He's like, you look familiar. It was that kid.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I strung out to the girls had just

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Speaker 3: But that's my adolescent story. Isn't that wild?

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Speaker 1: That's very wild, But at at the power of hope.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's a typical day look like for the kids?

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Speaker 3: It's groups therapy, right, yep.

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Speaker 2: Its place is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: The pictures look crazy, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: And the people that are running the program hands down

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, him and I are not qualified to work on

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Speaker 1: That's what you want to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: There they're running the day like that, you know, if

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Speaker 5: in the state of Massachusetts, it's considered a full day

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Speaker 1: So they get in credit for a full day of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and some of the more severe cases, it's like

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Speaker 5: they need some time separated from the school, so they'll

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Speaker 5: far as exactly what they each kid's doing during the day.

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Speaker 5: But you know, without without a doubt, through the day,

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Speaker 5: individual treatment that they're all doing.

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Speaker 1: So to be clear, I like the snacks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh hey, no, it's good for us too.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 5: Up in that little neighborhood, few good places to eat

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Speaker 5: we found. So it's it's you know, him and I.

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Speaker 5: They don't let us.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's well, I was gonna say, to be clear, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you are a heroin addict or a crackhead or whatever,

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Speaker 1: That, Maddie and damon, they'll speak to you on that.

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Speaker 4: with no change, and then you want more. You want more.

443
00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 4: You work, how to, you go to more meetings, you

444
00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320
Speaker 4: try and take care of your personal stuff, and then

445
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,160
Speaker 4: before you know it, you know, days turn into months,

446
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,240
Speaker 4: which turns in the years.

447
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

448
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 5: You just I don't know if you remember the time

449
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 5: of just being around at one point and like laughing

450
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 5: right like and not having had a real laugh and

451
00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,080
Speaker 5: however long and then you like it hits you like, wow,

452
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 5: this is like I'm having a belly laugh here and

453
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,679
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying it and it feels good, yeah man. And

454
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,160
Speaker 5: then you know us, if it feels good, we want

455
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,680
Speaker 5: more and more.

456
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what.

457
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,199
Speaker 3: A big one for me was the realization that I

458
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 3: was around people that did not want anything from me,

459
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 3: and then also people that I actually liked. Ye See,

460
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 3: I spent so much time with people where I was like,

461
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 3: I say, it was using with.

462
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,320
Speaker 1: You, Maddie.

463
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 3: I fucking hate this dude, but I have to because

464
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 3: of you know, what I need or what he can

465
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 3: get same, you know. And then The other thing is

466
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 3: is being around people that legit only wanted my friendship.

467
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 1: That's it.

468
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 3: They didn't want any money, they didn't want nothing from me,

469
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 3: didn't care fucking anything about me. They just wanted to

470
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 3: spend time with me. That was so impactful to me.

471
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to be around these people

472
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 3: more and more, you know. So to that listener, I

473
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 3: hope hopefully she'll hear this before she goes in. If not,

474
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 3: she can listen when she gets up there.

475
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

476
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 5: And on top of that, just staying stay in treatment,

477
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 5: stay do the after care, like if you can go

478
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 5: in the if you're in the detox portion, stay in

479
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 5: the residential as long as you can, uh set up

480
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 5: after care wherever. If you're coming back, if you're in

481
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 5: this area, call us, we'll help you out. We don't

482
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 5: care what you have for insurance. Just you know, give

483
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 5: Power a call.

484
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Speaker 1: The most important thing is.

485
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 4: Don't pick up for the day and don't make any decisions.

486
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 4: Let somebody who's been there before make the decisions. That's

487
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 4: what we do best in Power.

488
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we make.

489
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 4: The decision for you, so it's done. We're never gonna

490
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 4: stay you towards the direction where you're going to pick

491
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 4: up or use, or hurt yourself or somebody else. But

492
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 4: still after almost sixteen years, sometimes I can't make my

493
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 4: own decision. I need to go and ask for advice,

494
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: for help, Yeah, help help me. I can't. I'm I'm

495
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 4: gonna mess this up.

496
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 1: I'm going to mess that up.

497
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, now just walking through the door, like, let us

498
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: make your decisions for you.

499
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 3: Sometimes that a lot of times, these basic things we

500
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 3: learn when we get cleaned can carry they carry throughout

501
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 3: your whole recovery process. Let's say, back to the basics.

502
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,479
Speaker 3: You have that, back to the base. How many time

503
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: you been back to the basics? Mad, I'm right now,

504
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 3: back to the basis. See what I mean currently.

505
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: In my life?

506
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

507
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I wake up, pray, talk to another addict. Yeah,

508
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 4: I'll be at my step meeting tonight right now writing steps.

509
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see Damon this week.

510
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: Now you've been skipping Damon?

511
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, probably not tonight.

512
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always so we have.

513
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 3: You know, we've blo onto a twelve step program and

514
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: people are always like, you know, it's so hard to

515
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 3: do the steps and do a fourth step and a

516
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: fifth step and a sixth step. It's so hard and

517
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 3: a men's and all that stuff. Try going through all

518
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 3: twelve steps, come pleading them, and then they're like, well

519
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 3: you have to start over again. That's where I'm at now.

520
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm on step two. Yeah, the second time around, and

521
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, but you got to do

522
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: it because situations changing life. You can be applied to

523
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: so many things besides just drugs.

524
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: Want to blow your mind. Go back and read your

525
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 4: old step two.

526
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh I should do that.

527
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 4: You're not the same person. Fucking insane.

528
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, wan hair a good fourth step story. So my sponsor,

529
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: My my sponsor had always shared when he when he

530
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, talk to me and openly, like at meetings

531
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 3: or whatever, he would say when I did my fourth

532
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: and fifth step. At the end of the fourth step,

533
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: it says, is there anything else? Is there anything that

534
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: you're not writing down out of fear? And he said,

535
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: you know, there's one thing that I was not going

536
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: to write down no matter what, and I left it off.

537
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: He's like, And so then when I met when my

538
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: sponsor went to whatever at the very end, he said

539
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 3: to me, is there anything you left off? And he's like,

540
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: I paused, thought about it, and I was like, and

541
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: he goes, tell me, if you want to be free

542
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: to tell me, And so he goes proceeded to share

543
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: that one thing.

544
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I was never going to tell anybody.

545
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: And then his sponsor said, all right, now, let me

546
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: tell you a little bit about myself. And the same

547
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: thing that had happened to him had happened to a sponsor.

548
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: It was like a spiritual moment, right, yeah, fast forward,

549
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: I do my full step, same thing. There was stuff

550
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: that had happened in my life that I wasn't going

551
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: to share and I left it off and then the

552
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 3: same exact same thing happened, and he asked me, and

553
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: I thought about it, and I'm like, I'm just going

554
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: to share it. And I shared it and it was

555
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: the same exact thing that happened to my sponsor and

556
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: to his sponsor.

557
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Wow, isn't that crazy.

558
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: That's just the journey man.

559
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how the HYAPA was working our lives.

560
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: It really is a one another question.

561
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Speaker 6: Here, Hey, justin for tomorrow's after show. I was hoping

562
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 6: you could ask Power of Recovery for any tips for

563
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 6: family members when we just found out about an addiction

564
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 6: and they went into recovery. But how can we best

565
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 6: support them during this time? Thanks love you.

566
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: Guys, Damon Maddie, Well, who's taking the cake on this one?

567
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: The big guy over there.

568
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 4: Game.

569
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: So there's some general stuff obviously, and I think, uh,

570
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: there's also personal stuff depending on the person in what

571
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: the family has been through already. But generally speaking, I

572
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: think it's super important to set your boundaries with a

573
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 5: loved one who's in recovery, and you should base all

574
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: of your support and what you're doing off of the

575
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: first boundary I would suggest is that as long as

576
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: they're in recovery and doing their doing their thing, as

577
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 5: far as like, you know, whatever recovery looks.

578
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: Like for them.

579
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: For me, it means going to meet in stepwork, sponsor

580
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: all that, all the all the stuff for me, because that's.

581
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: The type of recovery that I do.

582
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 5: But I would suggest that you know, uh, trying to

583
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 5: get an understanding of the disease itself, UH is super helpful.

584
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 5: It's if you if you don't know it, then if

585
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 5: you've never experienced you don't you don't fully know it.

586
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 5: But getting some information about that and just trying to

587
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: be as compassionate as possible. We have conversations with families

588
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 5: all the time surrounding that stuff and and learning or

589
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: about what they go through is super important, and just

590
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: you know, having an understanding of being able to support them.

591
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: There's different other things that you deal with.

592
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: With all that stuff.

593
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: Some people need a little support financially and in other ways,

594
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: and it can be difficult. Depends on what everyone's situation is.

595
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 5: That's why it's all different for people. But you know,

596
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: for the most part, I would say, set you boundaries

597
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 5: as long as they're in recovery, learn more about the

598
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 5: disease to see how you can continue to support them specifically.

599
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: You know why it can be so hard for not

600
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: just family members, but anybody that's not an addict or

601
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: an alcoholic and doesn't struggle.

602
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: With the disease. It's it's wrapping their head around why

603
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: can't you just stop?

604
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't understand, Like if I don't want to

605
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: do something, if something's hurt of me, I just don't

606
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: do it.

607
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's a big thing to understand.

608
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: That's getting less and less because the world is more

609
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: aware of a disease that's getting less and less. Like

610
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 4: when we first came around there was a lot of

611
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: people that will go just stop, just stop. Now, every

612
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: household is touched with addiction, right, you can't get away

613
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: from it. Everybody, some way, shape or form is touched

614
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: by addiction. So there's a little more understanding to that

615
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: why we just can't stop. It's a disease that talks

616
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: to us in our own mind, and we we can't

617
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: get rid of it. We arrest it for one day

618
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: and it's stopped. It's like the freaking newspaper, and it's incurable, incurable.

619
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: All we can do is arrest it.

620
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you're one of these people that says

621
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: that doesn't believe that, like it's not a disease, you know,

622
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: I don't believe any of that.

623
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: It's that's ignorant. You're ignorant, simple as that, you're ignorant.

624
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: That's it's literally as many sneak as you have.

625
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well not only that, right, but would you

626
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 5: would you tell a person that has cancer to just

627
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 5: stop having cancer?

628
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: All right?

629
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 5: And it's tough, but like that's about the best way

630
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 5: you can try and sell the idea to somebody that

631
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: has no idea, Like, no, I can't just say cancer

632
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 5: go away, No, I can't. I like, the only problem,

633
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: I think that not the only problem. What I would

634
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 5: what I would say is is a little bit more

635
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 5: relatable for people, is is that a it's self diagnosed.

636
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: No matter how many times somebody else tells me I'm

637
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 5: an alcoholic, car an addict, it's not until I recognize

638
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: it and state that, and then it's self treated. So

639
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: on that side of the coin, it's like the cancer

640
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 5: pation not going to get chemo or whatever it is

641
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: that they're doing for a treatment, and that pot is

642
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: tough for a family member to watch. So but at

643
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's a disease. It's it's real.

644
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 5: It's it's depression, it's any other mental health issue that

645
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 5: you know can go on inside of your head, and

646
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: it's real.

647
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: It's just really hard for family members too, especially with

648
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: relapse and again.

649
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: And again and again and again and again.

650
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: You know, I think about my father, all the hell

651
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: that I put him through, you know, all the money

652
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: that I stole and all the lies and everything, and

653
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: he tried so hard to get me clean, and it

654
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: was like again and again and again. It's just like

655
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: it's really traumatizing.

656
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: We loved ones, right once they understand a little bit

657
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: more that we're not bad people trying to be good

658
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: with sick people trying to be well. And it's a

659
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: long road for some of us. For me, I told

660
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: you took me eleven years to get thirty days.

661
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm thinking about that with you, Maddy. I remember

662
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: I've talked about this before. I remember when I first

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Speaker 3: got clean, and your brother used to have a dinner

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Speaker 3: every Wednesday night for all the guys in recovery.

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Speaker 1: Anyone could go, and it was it was just because

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Speaker 1: he was so.

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Speaker 3: Thankful for the recovery and you know, meetings for giving

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Speaker 3: him his brother back.

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Speaker 4: That's how this whole thing stopped, literally by a dinner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I went once and then there was probably

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Speaker 3: i would say twenty people there, and then it progressed on.

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing pictures outside of the house eighty hundred guys, just.

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Speaker 5: Guys, and just so you know, you know, shout out

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Speaker 5: to Sneeze, to Steve Snuffy Powers. He's not one of us, right,

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Speaker 5: And he had he he had a home with a

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Speaker 5: wife and children, young kids like that were at the

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Speaker 5: house and he would have all of us in his

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Speaker 5: house and cooked in a pay for it out of

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Speaker 5: his pocket. And again I'm talking he would they were knights.

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Speaker 5: He was feeding eighty guys, so right, and and and

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Speaker 5: having those all those people in the house and literally

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Speaker 5: like the magic that startted everything that we do.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 5: It started the sober housing, which led to power recovery,

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Speaker 5: which led to everything else.

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Speaker 4: Man, right, just by dinner and we still me and

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Speaker 4: Damon still have friends from that kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Yep, still clean, still talk.

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Speaker 4: About Wednesday nights, still doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so powerful, powerful, get it power. Yeah, whatever

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Speaker 1: you did, see how that goes? Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: All right, boys, I hate to cut you short, but

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Speaker 3: you get to the gym, well, I got hold on.

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Speaker 3: This is the sickness, right, It's not just about getting

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Speaker 3: to the gym. It's that I got to have my

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Speaker 3: pre workout meal and it's got to be timed so

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Speaker 3: it's digested by the time I get to the gym.

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Speaker 2: This is the insanity.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you look good though, so say what you want.

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Speaker 1: People.

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Speaker 4: I take Damon's crushing on you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Me and Damon go way back, way back, way back.

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Speaker 3: All right, So power, power of hope. We talked about that.

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Speaker 3: That's an adolescent mental health. What's the website.

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Speaker 5: It's Power of Hope m A as in Massachusetts Power

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Speaker 5: of Hope MA dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so for a lot of our listeners and

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Speaker 3: a lot of us have small children and teenagers. If

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Speaker 3: you ever run into a problem you need to seek help,

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Speaker 3: go there see them. They will help you. Like they said,

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Speaker 3: they have people there that are experts in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just check it out for my people that are

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Speaker 1: like us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man and struggling. If you're a loved one are struggling, damon,

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Speaker 3: what can they do?

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Speaker 2: They can?

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Speaker 5: They can hit the website power Recovery dot org. Or

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Speaker 5: more importantly, they can call eight five seven fifty six power.

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Speaker 5: That's eight five seven five six seven six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when they say gemma, yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you guys very much, and we'll talk.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna come back next month?

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Speaker 5: Next month unless they call for a sooner, but other

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Speaker 5: than that, we'll uh, doors.

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Speaker 2: All just cancel.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady will be back.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, don Tom's coming on something really cool.

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Speaker 3: I can't even talk about it. Oh, Man's special for

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Speaker 3: our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, he's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you off the.

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Speaker 3: Because we haven't announced it yet, but it's really special,

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Speaker 3: fantastic in the list of like importance for me, it's

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Speaker 3: definitely like Tom Brady then Power Recovery.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hey, honestly, I'm not sure you're going to hear an

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Speaker 5: argument on any of us.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady also yeah, sorry, No.

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Speaker 3: It's fine, and be a number two to tom Brady's

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Speaker 3: not that bad, not at all.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, guys, thank you both, and after show

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Speaker 3: Army we'll talk tomorrow. Always leave us to talk back

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Speaker 3: about anything. If you have any comments about this podcast,

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Speaker 3: you can leave a talk back on the iHeart app

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Speaker 3: I piece