1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Was it Katie? Who was who was the and we 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: talked to her. I feel horrible who swammed. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: The harbor Allan Baltimore. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Yes, Katie Pumphrey, pumfree, pum free. Yeah, that's right, because 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: she did the she did the whole swim. She was awesome. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: She was great and she's an artist, right and remember 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: but we tracked everything along and we did all that. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about her. Hold on, I gotta find 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: this woman. Look up California swim here we go. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: Is that a club? 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: No, No, it's it's a it's a it's a a 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: feat that this woman is doing. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Catherine Breed. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I would want to know if Katie Pumphrey would say, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: this is I don't question this is hard. 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: Can't wait to hear what it is the because remember 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: Diane's not questioning the difficulty. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: No, but there was just let me, does something seem 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: a little well, I'm not you know what, I'm not 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna lead the witness. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Catherine Breed early early next month. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Early one morning next month, Catherine Breed will walk into 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the ocean just north of the California Oregon border and 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: start swimming south anywhere between eighty and one hundred and 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: twenty six days later, if things go as planned, she 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: will reach the California Mexico border, becoming the first person 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: ever to swim the entire length of California. Now I 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: think that's cool. 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, also kind of crazy, right, But it's not what 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: you think it is. 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: I think that's the problem I struggle with. 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 5: You kind of have a bias against things like these 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: because of Diana and Iya. 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Well yes, but but no, like when Katie did her. 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 2: Thing, that was great. 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, she got in the water and she swam. 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: Well, that's the first thing that stands out in the 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: distance you described. It's not a continuous swim. Obviously, it's 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: nine hundred miles. Oh my god. 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, which you can't do in what well, forget 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: one day. It would take you more than a day. 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: Because how long did Katie's was like twenty five miles? 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 4: How long did it ultimately. 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Take, wasn't it? Why do I want to say fourteen hours? 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't know why that number jumped 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: out to me. 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 4: Uh, thirteen fifty four. 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I nailed it, Wow, nailed it. That's a long time 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to swim. That is a very long time to swim. 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: Yes, thirteen hours versus eighty to one hundred twenty six days, 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: but it's not. 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: And so you hear nine hundred miles and you go like, 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: holy crap, this girl's getting ready to swim. 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: Ah, she don't know. Oh, she's thirty three. 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Thirty three. And then you get to this part where 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: it's like, in order to attain this audacious goal, she'll 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: have to swim about nine hundred miles along the rugged 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: coastline in the open Pacific, vulnerable to great white sharks, 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: elephant seals, venomous jellyfish, storms, currents, hypothermia something a dangerous 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: condition in which muscles disintegrate from over exertion. 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: Didn't Diana and I had get stung by a jellyfish? 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember it got our face. I was not a 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Diana Naiad fan. 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: You also hated her her musical instrument. 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: She oh, that's right. 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: She did revelry for herself before she got in you 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: like a bugle, yes, one of one. 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Of Catherine breeds. 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Like somebody working with her said it would be the 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: equivalent of somebody running a marathon every day for months 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: only in a very remote area with moose or polar bears. 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is amazing. What this woman's gonna do? 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Catherine breeding her crew of four will eat, sleep, and 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: live aboard a fifty two foot sailboat, sheltering at night 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: in coves and harbors. 77 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Except on periodic rest days. 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: She will swim for five to eight hours each day, 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: starting where she stopped the previous day. 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: So what goodbye? Okay, goodbye? 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: So what does that mean in terms of if you 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 4: do the math, nine hundred miles, how many days does 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: she think it would take? 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Between eighty and one hundred and twenty six? 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: So what is that per day? 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Ten fifteen? 87 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: Still in those conditions? Yeah, a lot of swimming, you're 88 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: not in. 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: There's forty days between eighty and one hundred and twenty six. 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: Maybe she needs to that's a month off, two rest days. 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: And then it talks about like listen, do I think 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: it's easy? No, her training regimen is crazy, and I'm 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: sure she's in fantastic shape. But what am I missing? 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: Like? 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: Why can't I celebrate this? 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: Because of all the rest involved? And also it takes 97 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: a lot to cover it or to stay interested in 98 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: the story. 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Also, at a dozen key locations, Catherine will come ashore 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: for public education events. 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, what I thought they were gonna stay on 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: the boat. 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Well, and which I also have a problem with. 104 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Now she's walking. 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: Around yeah yeah, and wish she gonna do go to 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: the movies? 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: What comes out to rest day this summer? 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: She wants to see The Odyssey? Yeah, but you know 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, like I can't, I can't and I 110 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: want to be And I think it's because of Katie 111 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Pumphrey where I'm like, this is awesome. This is what 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: did Katie call it? 113 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: Not marathon swimming? 114 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: Is that what she called it? 115 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: I like this. 116 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: It had a but it had a term. It had 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: a term endurance swimming. 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Swimming. 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: Marathon gets people to the idea of yeah, but this 120 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: girl is when. 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: It takes she's she's not even doing a half marathon 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: a day. My favorite days of the of the swim 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: where that you know, those days that she went to 124 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: the mall. 125 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 5: I now this is her boyfriend will shadow the boat's 126 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: progress in a sprinter van to resupply the crew at 127 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: sea with fresh vegetables. 128 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with paperbacks. 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: Pints of ice cream, maybe a spare engine part in 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: case something goes awry. 131 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Right for the chase, Boat. I get that. 132 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: I get that. 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: What was the because we learned that Katie had also 134 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: done the English Channel? 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Right? I think this? I think this lady has done 136 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the English Channel. 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: Is that distance similar to what Katie did in Baltimore? 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: Is that around twenty twenty five miles? Does it say? 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: For this? 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: What is this woman's nine hundred? Oh Catherine, Catherine Breed? 141 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have the I don't have the 142 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: length of the English chop. But I do believe she 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: swam the English Channel. 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: That wasn't Katie attached to some swim in California? Or 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: I am I somebody else? 146 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Did she do? 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: Did she do Alcatraz? 148 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 6: No? 149 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Why would you do Alcatraz? Sharks live? 150 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: There wasn't there like a Catalina Island thing? 151 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 5: Oh? 152 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's yeah, because Pirate was based at Catalina. No, 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: did she swim La to Catalina? 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: I don't Catalina stands out. I don't know where she 155 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: ended up going. 156 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: Did Catherine swim Catalina to La? I think it took 157 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: her eight months? Am I going to line two? 158 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: Oh? I have it? So she did? 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Who's this Katie? 160 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: She did the English Channel? She did the Catalina Channel 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: and a twenty eight point five miles from near Manhattan. 162 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: God love, Simon, where am I going? Like you count 163 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: all of her stuff? 164 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: You know why because she didn't have thirty days off 166 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: during the whole thing. 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Hi Elliot in the morning. 168 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 6: Hey Elliott, this is towny. So I'm going to question 169 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: she doing the Pacific? Is that right? 170 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right off the coast of California. 171 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: How can you protect her from sharks with there's four 172 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: people in the sailboat. You know you can't tell me 173 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: wearing shark infested waters out there. I'll tell you right now. 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 8: She said it someone, She said, someone in a small 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 8: boat will always be near her, and at known hotspots, 176 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 8: multiple scanners will watch for sharks and sea life. 177 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: She said, I can promise I'm not going to get 178 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: bit by a shark, now, I mean you feel that 179 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: way going in and listen. I don't want her to 180 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: get bit. Nobody wants her to get attacked. But she 181 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: said that. I guess they'll have spotters that will know 182 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: if there's a shark around. 183 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 6: How deep does these sonars go in the water? You know, 184 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: shark swim pretty deep. They can hear anything up on 185 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 6: top of the water and shoot straight up before anybody 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: could even see her. 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that I don't know. She talks about like 188 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: one of the swims that she did, like a long 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: swim where it was like one of those endurance swims, 190 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: and some kind of like really a poisonous jellyfish got 191 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: inside of her wet suit. She had to peel her 192 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: wet suit off, and she Diana that one got her face. 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: She had to peel her wet suit off and swim 194 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,239 Speaker 1: in her underpanties. 195 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 6: Well that's pretty sexy. 196 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: The no. 197 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: I mean they were talking about just how miserable and 198 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: hypothermic she was. Yeah, but that was like but that 199 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: was like an endurance swim, and this is dude, she's 200 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: swimming nine hundred miles And I do want to be 201 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: I do want to think, like, wow, that's pretty impressive. 202 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: But there's a forty day window between start and n 203 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: Like if I if I thank you sir, if I 204 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: put together all the swimming I've done in my life, 205 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: have I swum nine hundred miles now? 206 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 5: Even as a kid, No, No, I bet on swim team. No, 207 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: okay then no, no. 208 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: But I bet like all the times that all the 209 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: times I've been swimming in my life, in my life, 210 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: if you add. 211 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Them up, have I done nine hundred miles? 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 7: No? 213 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: So if you phrased it differently, you thought we would 214 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: come to a different No. 215 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has swum nine hundred miles now, yes, do. 216 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: You ever do laps in the pool or do you 217 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: just stand there with a cocktail next to the wall lapse? 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I've done lap as a kid, you. 219 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: Girl, way, No, I'm not. 220 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: You've not done laps in the years that I've known you. 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: When have you done laps? 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Again? You're talking about? 223 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 4: Is this like when I meditate. 224 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: The can I please? 225 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: No? 226 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: You like you've never done last You've never done that 227 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: thing with your friends where you're like, all right, I'm 228 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna see how far I could push myself down on 229 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: one breath and you make it the whole way. 230 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: That's a lap, swimming lap. 231 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: See I go back because we try it again. I 232 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: get you treated like I need to be goddamn Katie Ladeci. No, 233 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're an adult, you've swum nine 234 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: hundred miles. 235 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: Katie Lindecy has swum more than nine hundred miles in 236 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: her life. 237 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: You have not I bet Katie Ladeci has swum ten 238 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: thousand miles in her life. Twenty thousand. You can tell 239 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: me she swum a million miles. I'd believe it. 240 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: There's no no chance, Tyler. 241 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: You don't think you've done nine hundred miles. 242 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't think I have. I don't think you have. 243 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: I don't think Diana or Kristen has have. 244 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: I come close? Eight hundred. 245 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: No, we're gonna be titty babies nor eight hundred. 246 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, you're so delusional. 247 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: No, I know. 248 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be realistic. 249 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: But the only difference is she's doing it in one 250 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: hundred twenty six days. I did it in a lifetime. 251 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: But my point is we vote, we've all taken breaks, 252 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: that's all. 253 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: And if I may quote Bruce Springsteen, thanks for a lifetime. 254 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Hey you welcome, Bruce, You're welcome. 255 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: Now I'm looking. So she ends this swim at the 256 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: Tijuana River, which is right at the border. Yes, at 257 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: the US Mexico border, the Catalina Island. The channel swim 258 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: ended at or they stopped at Ranchos Palos Verdes. 259 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. 260 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: So you're familiar with that area. 261 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: So I'm I'll tell you it's a lot nicer than Tijuana. Yes, 262 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: it's very nice. I mean there's like it's right on 263 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: the water. 264 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but are there I'm seeing some resorts pop up there. 265 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh. I just know, like there's like some cliff houses 266 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: there that are gorgeous. 267 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: But you're still that swim, You're still subject to the 268 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: dangers of the sea, right, Yes, of course, does she 269 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: say which part of the California swim will be the 270 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: most treacherous? And I understand like stamina and energy and 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: just fatigue can play later in the swim, But when 272 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: you're talking about the elements faced north or southern California, 273 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: northern or southern, does she explain that. 274 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: Well, I think like sharks would be more Northern California, 275 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and then like sea like sea lions and stuff are 276 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: going to be southern, like down by San Diego. Can 277 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: I guess you get shunk in in San Francisco. 278 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco. 279 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: I feel like northern California, I feel like would be 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: more dangerous. I don't know. 281 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: It's it's pretty amazing despite a year issues with no. 282 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: It is and that's that's the point. I want to 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: be excited for her, But I also know like for 284 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: forty days, she's going to be sleeping at like a 285 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: four seasons. 286 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: Like I understand that you may not go on her 287 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: website and donate. 288 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: Oh you're right about that, but. 289 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,479 Speaker 4: Just to read about her story, her history, her accomplishments 290 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: and then see this map the of the swim. It 291 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 4: reminds me of how I felt when Katie did the 292 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 4: Harbor swim. 293 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Oh again, I think it's impressive. Actually, I'll say this. 294 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I think what Katie is, what Katie did, is more 295 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: impressive than. 296 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: This because it was because Katie continuous for those almost 297 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: fourteen hours. 298 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, this woman will swim. And again, I could 299 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: not walk into the water right now and swim ten miles. 300 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I know that I'm comfortable in saying that. 301 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: So she Catherine, This is again from Swim, California. She 302 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: was the first human to swim San Francisco to half 303 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: Moon Bay. How far is that? 304 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Where's half Moon Bay? 305 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's the one in Jamaica. You 306 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: got married, Oh you might be right. Yeah, so I 307 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: thought you would know that. 308 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where half Moon Bay. 309 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: Is, but you know San Francisco a little bit. Yes, 310 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: did you see Bunjovi? There the Yeah, cow Palace is 311 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: not open, so it's basically if you just head down 312 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: the one you see it here on the map. 313 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not that far. 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: It's twenty eight miles for the swim. Yeah, and that 315 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: was without rest. 316 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: So she did a straight twenty eight yes, okay, No, 317 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: that's good. That's that, by the way, more impressive than 318 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: nine hundred. 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: It's the entire length of the I know, and that. 320 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: Is I do want to be happier for her. I do. 321 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: I just don't like the rest blank seven. 322 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Hi elliot in the morning. 323 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 9: Anybody is this mate? 324 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: Yes, sir? 325 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: What can I do for you? 326 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 9: So I was I was talking listen to on. I 327 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 9: was thanking her the shock for the least to her 328 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 9: problems because you said she's in her swimm as the 329 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 9: Tijuana River, Yeah, released tens of millions of gallons of 330 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 9: raw sewage into the river every day. 331 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Is that true? 332 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, listen, I believe it. 333 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: No, No, you think she would be aware of that. 334 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: The the Tijuanna River is not known for its whitewater 335 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: raft das sharks. 336 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 9: I'm taking sharks for the least of her problems. 337 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: If she's going up to Tijuana River. 338 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: All right, very good, thank you, Yes, Tom, he's not wrong. 339 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: Considered one of the most polluted rivers in North America. 340 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Well, she is doing this to kind of raise awareness. 341 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: But she's also she's just swimming to that point. 342 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Well, you can't go any further once you bang your 343 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: hand into the duty wall. That's as far as you 344 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: can go. 345 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: She doesn't have to actually. 346 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Swim in the Tijuanna River. It's like Juliana Valencia going 347 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: down to cover the Clara Barton. 348 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: She's right on the right there, but not in it. 349 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: Where was she this morning? 350 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: She was somewhere well, probably where they have to do 351 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: the new repair work. She probably saw that story was 352 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: like not a line three. Hi elliot in the morning. 353 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 7: Hi is this me? 354 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 355 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 9: Hi? 356 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: Who's this. 357 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: Hi? 358 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 10: I'm a swim coach and I am the open water 359 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 10: coordinator for like the area of DC in Maryland and Virginia, 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 10: So I can give you a little background. It is 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 10: called marathon swimming. 362 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 7: That's what they call it the Olympics too, for a 363 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 7: ten k and over. 364 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 10: Right, But you probably need to consider when she has 365 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 10: to rest. It's not like she always wants to, but 366 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 10: you've got to consider the current and the storms that 367 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 10: are going to be happening as she goes, so like 368 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 10: your big thing is wrapping around. 369 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 7: Why is she get all this extra rest? 370 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 10: Maybe it's probably because of the environmental stuff. 371 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: No, no, I get that. I get that. But when 372 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: when somebody says, hey, this lady and again she I'm 373 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: sure she's a great athlete. But when they said this 374 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: lady is going to swim the nine hundred miles of 375 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: the California coast, they set it up in a way 376 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh my god, like she's the Michael 377 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Wardion of swimming, Like she's just gonna go. And then 378 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: you find out that it may take her eighty days, 379 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: it may take her one hundred and twenty days. There's 380 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: her days on shore. It's like, I guess when they 381 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: say it's like, I'll use the Appalachian Trail, right, yeah, 382 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: there are some people that it takes them years to 383 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: do the Appalachian Trail. They'll do this segment, in that segment, 384 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: in this segment, in that segment. Or then there's the 385 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: straight hikers who start and they just go. They make 386 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: it sound like the way that she's setting this record 387 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: of doing. They make it sound like it is like 388 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a through hiker as opposed to what I've done, which 389 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: is nine hundred miles, but just in a little bit 390 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: longer time. 391 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: She's also laughing at that. 392 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: No, ma'am, is it you're a swim coach. Has the 393 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: average person one nine miles. 394 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 10: I'm going to agree with Diane and Tyler and say unlikely. 395 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 6: But maybe if they. 396 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 10: Were an avid summer as a kid. If they were 397 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 10: avid summer as a kid, maybe if you did swim, 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 10: and if you did swim team for sure. But one 399 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 10: more thing to consider in this timeline, because I want 400 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 10: to give this woman some credit. I just wanted to 401 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 10: going in day after day after day after day. That 402 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 10: also sounds like mentally super tough. But sometimes when you swim, 403 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 10: because the current is so strong or the wind is 404 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 10: so strong that you're like barely moving. 405 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 7: So like if you think of the people, it's the. 406 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 10: English Channel, like they'll maybe go one mile in an hour, 407 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 10: which a pretty good mile, like in a pool is 408 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 10: about twenty minutes. 409 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: You know, open water maybe. 410 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 10: Slightly longer, so you should be getting maybe two and 411 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 10: a half to three if you're a pretty good swimmer, 412 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 10: which I'm sure this lady is but you might be 413 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 10: going almost nowhere. So that's another thing that they have 414 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 10: to put into account for, Like she's gonna do all 415 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 10: nine hundred miles and I don't know the mental toughness 416 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 10: of keep going when like you're trying to swim in 417 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 10: that boat and you are still in that same place. 418 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 10: You haven't gone anywhere. 419 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: That sounds like it sucks. 420 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but I mean get pushing and look over 421 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 5: and your friends are eating ice cream. 422 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: The no, but pushing. 423 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 7: Through the U and you haven't moved five inches. 424 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: Pushing through the mental is but that that's a part 425 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: of anything. Like even old man hockey, you get pinned 426 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: in the zone and you can't change, and it's you're tired. 427 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: But you still got to push through anything. 428 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: And you know, like move moved here. 429 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: Sure the movie wants you to make a change so 430 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: he could get on the ice. 431 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: We've all been there. 432 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: Were you even asked to join the team again the Saturday. 433 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: The yeah, I'm in this Saturday, although I haven't gotten 434 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: an updates. 435 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: And if you'll recall, Katie tried to do the Baltimore 436 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: Swim a second time right and had to abort the 437 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: mission because of weather and wind. 438 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Right but I bet if she said I'm gonna do it, 439 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: it's only going to take me between eighty and one 440 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six days, she could have doubted it done. 441 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, where are you? Where are you a coach? 442 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 10: I coach out in the Woodbridge, Virginia area, So. 443 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, like like like swimming obviously does very well, 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: especially women swimming, so you know like Katie Ledecki and 445 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Tory Husk and all of them. 446 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 7: Right, Oh yeah, yeah. 447 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: No, that's awesome. 448 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 10: I'm coaching kids who want to be able to swim 449 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 10: in college. 450 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 7: Is the type of swimming that I coach. 451 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: No, I think that's great. Hey, one other thing, when 452 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: you said that you're in charge of like open water 453 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: swimming in the area, like every like if somebody wants 454 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: to go swimming in the Chesapeake, everybody's got to go 455 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: through you. 456 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 10: No, it's for USA Swimming. So like any USA Swimming 457 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 10: team that is going to do open water swim, I'm 458 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 10: the coordinator and I help them plan it and make 459 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 10: sure the conditions are going to be okay and follow 460 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 10: all the rules of USA Swimming. So I wouldn't say 461 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 10: it's for everyone, right, but it's for anyone who is 462 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 10: a member of USA Swimming. 463 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: I got youa that still sounds very rare, like like 464 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: that sounds like a prestigious job. 465 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you've worked really heard of it. 466 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been very lucky. 467 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 10: USA Swimming just hired me to go out last week 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 10: to Las Vegas and coach out there. So that was 469 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 10: pretty cool to coach for USA Swimming, like the actual 470 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 10: swim team. 471 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 7: You know, that's a rational team. 472 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Oh congratulations, Hey, you know what, let me get you 473 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: a shirt. Let me get you a shirt. 474 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: What. 475 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 10: Oh, that's so awesome. I love listening to you guys 476 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 10: all the time. And Diane, I'm so glad you're back. 477 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. 478 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Hey, hold tight one second, hold on one 479 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: second for me, please, that's great. 480 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: And then USA Swimming, according to a listener who uses 481 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: an anthropic or claw the AI agent right, the average 482 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: person in their lifetime, Oh. 483 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: How the far they'll swim? But are they taking into 484 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: account like you swim as a kid. 485 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 4: It's a it's a decent range, So I do think so. 486 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: Am I not giving myself enough credit? Have I have 487 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I swum more than I think I have? 488 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: Do you want the menim minimum or the maximum? For 489 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: the estimate maximum, no minimum minimum, Okay, well I told 490 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: you it's a big ride, right, thirty miles. 491 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Thirty miles, so it's thirty to one thousand. What is 492 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: the maximum? 493 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: One hundred? 494 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely closer to one hundred.