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Speaker 3: hour number two this afternoon before we get to anything else.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you are listening right now, and maybe

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Speaker 3: ideally you're home from work under a blanket, sitting by

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Speaker 4: Austin and I.

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Speaker 3: Both braved these streets this morning. Austin, what was your

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Speaker 4: I think I saw like three cars. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: One of the people, Yeah, one of them was a

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Speaker 4: But other than that, it was pretty pretty simple, pretty

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the remarkable part about today Austin is it

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Speaker 3: is it's cold, it's slippery, snowy, It takes a lot

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Speaker 3: people here in the office today Austin, regardless of all

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Speaker 3: of that, Travis Steele is going to join us in

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 3: So again, twenty to zero top twenty five game tomorrow

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Speaker 4: Guy just keeps winning.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Two o'clock today, Travis Steele will join us right

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Speaker 3: here on Cincy three sixty. We also have more college

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Speaker 3: hoops that we'll get to this afternoon. You see a

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Speaker 3: very disappointing loss Saturday night on the road at Arizona

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Speaker 3: much more, felt eerily similar to frustrations I had last

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Speaker 3: a bad Arizona State team. We highlighted the issues Arizona

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Speaker 3: At one point in the game, Austin had a sixteen

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about a big Monday Austin Louisville's

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Speaker 3: And what did the North of the Norse came up

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Speaker 3: A big weekend for freshman in college basketball. Austin cam

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Speaker 3: Boozer for Duke had thirty two points that was outdone

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Speaker 3: which means we get to do a mock draft today

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Speaker 4: What a chime.

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Speaker 3: When we get to the offseason, we use the cannon

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Speaker 4: of been the story for Mike McCarthy is just not

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Speaker 3: It's hard, I think when a job becomes available because

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Speaker 3: that was and set the stage for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I would also be remiss not to congratulate former UC

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Speaker 3: UC's Hall of Fame with Mike mickens The former Notre

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Speaker 3: that's possible. Maybe maybe other hit stuff will hit on

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Speaker 3: Let's recap the AFC and NFC Championship games from yesterday,

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. Let's start Austin Patriots Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep it very simple. Take the point in Sean Payton,

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Speaker 3: Take the points. Jared Stidham is your quarterback, Stiddy, your

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Speaker 4: Payton tries to score a touchdown, which you know, obviously

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Speaker 3: You know, it also to me like time and place.

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Speaker 4: They've got Julian Love, Josh Job. They've went out and

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Speaker 4: got all these Asterique Woollen who they acquired and put

435
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Speaker 4: into that Their secondary fits so nicely. What they do

436
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Speaker 4: up front, a free agent signing in Ernest Jones from

437
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Speaker 4: a division rival in the Los Angeles Rams, Leonard Williams,

438
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Speaker 4: a free agent signingraft and developing him next to Byron Murphy,

439
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: going and getting to Marcus Lawrence. Like they have just

440
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: put the pieces of this defense together. And oh, by

441
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Speaker 4: the way, they went and got one of the most

442
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Speaker 4: explosive players in the NFL at the trade deadline in

443
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Speaker 4: Rashid Shahed, and he's made a huge huge impact on

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Speaker 4: this team and the way that they're able to just

445
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Speaker 4: take punches and punch right back. You know, Sam Darnold,

446
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Speaker 4: he doesn't like get rattled anymore. Like the whole seeing

447
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Speaker 4: Ghost thing. He's really been a different quarterback since then.

448
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Speaker 4: And you know, maybe he'll miss a throw or maybe

449
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Speaker 4: he'll get knocked down or whatever it might be. But

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Speaker 4: his ability to just come right back to it, and

451
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Speaker 4: they're fearless in going right back to it is really

452
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Speaker 4: fun to watch. I mean, I think they're the most

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Speaker 4: complete team in the NFL. I've been saying that for

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Speaker 4: a while. And for them to perform the way they

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Speaker 4: did and just hold off another rush from the Rams,

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Speaker 4: a couple of those early drives in which they forced

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Speaker 4: the Rams to settle for a field goal for the

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Speaker 4: difference in the game.

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Speaker 3: I thought in the second quarter, when the Rams went

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Speaker 3: on their scoring drive and took the lead and then

461
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Speaker 3: forced to three and out and got the ball back,

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Speaker 3: I thought the Rams had a chance to separate themselves. Sure,

463
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Speaker 3: and then it's the the Seahawks that forced to three

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Speaker 3: and out, and then they get the ball and they

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Speaker 3: score before the half, and you're thinking, like, all right,

466
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Speaker 3: Rams getting the ball back up three, a chance to

467
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Speaker 3: add at least three or maybe a touchdown and go

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Speaker 3: up two scores, and all of a sudden, Seattle's winning

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Speaker 3: at halftime. It was a very fun second half. It

470
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Speaker 3: felt like Austin, that the Rams needed one more stop

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Speaker 3: from the defense that they were able to get because

472
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Speaker 3: the offense was moving the ball. The Rams defense just

473
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Speaker 3: couldn't get the stop. Good that it's not a great

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Speaker 3: secondary in Los Angeles. I hate it because you feel

475
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Speaker 3: for a guy like Stafford, who's an MVP I think,

476
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Speaker 3: and nearing the end of his career, and Davante Adams,

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Speaker 3: and you you hate.

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Speaker 4: That side of it.

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Speaker 3: And we kind of talked about this already last week, Austin.

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00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: It also drives in the fact that no matter what

481
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Speaker 3: and all that goes right and all that goes wrong

482
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Speaker 3: throughout the year, there's only two teams left standard at

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Speaker 3: the end here. It's hard to get there, it's hard

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Speaker 3: to overcome it. It's hard to get to the Super Bowl.

485
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Speaker 3: It's hard to get to the AFC and NFC title games,

486
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Speaker 3: and that is on full display again last night. I

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Speaker 3: love the way Austin Seattle utilizes Jackson Smith and Jigba

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Speaker 3: all over the field. They did so last night. Obviously,

489
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Speaker 3: Zach Starvana was out, Kenneth Walker came up big. They

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Speaker 3: find different players at different times to impact the game.

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Speaker 3: Impressive by all accounts by the Seattle Seahawks. They Austin

492
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Speaker 3: are I believe, a four and a half points favorite

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Speaker 3: now for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little surprised it was that low.

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Speaker 4: I thought they'd be a little bit higher of a favorite.

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Speaker 4: But because I think of how good New England's ence

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Speaker 4: has played the last couple of weeks, I think they're

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Speaker 4: getting a little bit of respect. But yeah, right now

499
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Speaker 4: minus four and a half are the Seattle Seahawks minus

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Speaker 4: two twenty five On the money line. Have you looked

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Speaker 4: to see the lowest price to get in to Levis

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Speaker 4: Stadium in Santa Clara for Snowball sixty? I'm not. Do

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Speaker 4: you want to take a guess? Oh, lowest Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: New England Seattle? Seattle's obviously close two thousand dollars. No higher, higher,

505
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Speaker 4: three higher, five thousand dollars higher to get in goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 4: six thousand, four hundred and fifty dollars. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: according to vivid Seats via ESPN, unbelievable, six hundred faux

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Speaker 4: fitty youre get in price. And that's at the top

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Speaker 4: of Levis Stadium. My goodness, I mean I'm looking at

510
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Speaker 4: some of these seats down like behind the Patriots bench. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're talking at twenty two thousand apiece. Oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 4: twenty four thousand apiece. It's just crazy. Let me sit

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Speaker 4: on that for a second. That is crazy.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll get some

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Speaker 3: of your phone calls. Five one, three, seven, four nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. We will also dive into mock Draft Monday

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Speaker 3: today as well. Since three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station, there is an affordability crisis, a crisis.

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Speaker 2: And fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Cincy three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: One other note on the Super Bowl Loston shout out

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Speaker 3: to former Cincinnati Bearcat Kobe Bryant's right. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: one Jim Thorpe Award winner had two tackles in the

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Speaker 3: game last night for the Seattle Seahawks. He will become

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Speaker 3: the thirty fifth Bearcat to appear in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And how about this, austin seven straight years that a

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Speaker 3: Bearcat has been president at president in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, another bear Cat representing the university

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Speaker 3: in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: I know, our guy John from Boston is excited about

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. He calls, now, what's up John.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 7: Fella's short, ran because again I'm look, the Bengals are

536
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Speaker 7: my favorite team because of Joe Burrow. So as long

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Speaker 7: as he's at the Bengals, they'll be my favorite team.

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Speaker 7: If he goes elsewhere, I'm going to abandon ship. I'm

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Speaker 7: that shallow. But I look at the Patriots. This is

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Speaker 7: such more of a likable team than Belichick and Brady.

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Speaker 7: By the end, it was just an unlikable team and

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Speaker 7: the way Belichick treated the media and Brady became this

543
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Speaker 7: kind of weird, unrelatable guy. As one of the calmness

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Speaker 7: in town says, it was like this joyless pursuit of greatness,

545
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Speaker 7: like they were winning super Bowls and looked like they

546
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Speaker 7: had absolutely no fun doing it. So this is a

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Speaker 7: team that certainly is easier to root for than that one.

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Speaker 8: For sure.

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Speaker 7: In that realm, Tony talking about seventh straight year with

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Speaker 7: a bear Cat being in the Super Bowl, realized this

551
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Speaker 7: is the first time a USC quarterback is going to

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Speaker 7: start a super Bowl and that's of course Sam Donald.

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Speaker 7: And also the first time in North Carolina quarterback is

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Speaker 7: going to start a super Bowl in Drake May. So

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Speaker 7: that's kind of an interesting talking point as well.

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Speaker 4: I saw that about USC. That's kind of hard to

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Speaker 4: believe considering all the players that have been through there

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Speaker 4: that they've never had a quarterback in the Super Bowl start.

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Speaker 7: And only one Ohio State quarterback has started a super Bowl.

560
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Speaker 7: Maybe it's considered a true question. But Joe Burrow Ohio

561
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Speaker 7: State for three years start obviously is an lf you guy,

562
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Speaker 7: But yeah, Ohio State, where all that talent, has only

563
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Speaker 7: had one quarterback start a Super Bowl. You look at

564
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 7: Sean Payton yesterday, and I'm not a big Sean Payton fan.

565
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Speaker 7: He's the most arrogant guy in football. But you take

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Speaker 7: Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, and John Harball. Just

567
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Speaker 7: do a blind resume of each one. They're all about

568
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Speaker 7: the same. They've all won a Super Bowl. Uh. In

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Speaker 7: McCarthy's case, he had successful with the second team. He

570
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Speaker 7: had three straights well win seasons with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: I think what McCarthy is, he comes from Pittsburgh. He's

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Speaker 7: get that accent. He's kind of a bigger guy.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Obviously John Payton to pass for Sean mcvay's older brother,

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Speaker 7: you know, he's kind of this hip, a guy that

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Speaker 7: the media loves. Mike Tomlin's commanding. John Harball looks younger,

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Speaker 7: but Mike McCarthy's a dying good coach. And what I

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Speaker 7: want the NFL to do is, this is my proposal,

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Speaker 7: is you have to have a coach from your hometown.

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Speaker 7: So now you've got the stereotypical Pittsburgh as a singer

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Speaker 7: and Mike McCarthy. I think in Boston we should have

582
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Speaker 7: like some Irish guy from South Boston named Sully should

583
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Speaker 7: be the head coach of the Patriots. And New York

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Speaker 7: at Philadelphia, just get some Itttalian Americans from the Sopranos

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Speaker 7: to coach those teams, and I think it'd be a

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Speaker 7: lot of fun if you're able.

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Speaker 8: To do that.

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Speaker 7: But in terms of in terms of the Super Bowl, uh,

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Speaker 7: this Seattle defense, guys, you brought it up. The last

590
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Speaker 7: eight games, the only two teams that's the only team

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Speaker 7: that scored against them really was the Rams thirty seven

592
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Speaker 7: and twenty seven. The Rams have probably the best offense

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Speaker 7: in football. The other six games on their last eight,

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Speaker 7: they're giving up an average of nine points per game,

595
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Speaker 7: and the Patriots offense has struggled. But this will probably

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Speaker 7: be the first time they're playing in a month where

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Speaker 7: they're not dealing with snow, sleep, rain, whatever. Hopefully would

598
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Speaker 7: be nice weather at Levi Stadium in two weeks. But

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Speaker 7: it should be a lot of fun and we'll see

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Speaker 7: what happens when they kick off.

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Speaker 3: And a get in price right now, just sixty four

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars. How many tickets were you playing on getting

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Speaker 3: for the game?

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Speaker 4: Good question.

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Speaker 7: We had probably four. Yeah, that's what they're a little

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Speaker 7: over twenty five fives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's our big deal.

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Speaker 7: I got checked my account and see I'm getting that

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Speaker 7: much money back from the irs. You know, I doubt

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Speaker 7: that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: If I was.

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Speaker 7: Getting anything back like that, then I really had a

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Speaker 7: good year. But yeah, yeah, let's all fly out there

615
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Speaker 7: to a place that I know. People that covered the

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Speaker 7: last time or the only time there was a game

617
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Speaker 7: at Levi Stadium said it was a horrible experience, like

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Speaker 7: the stadiums an hour from San Francisco, track a little

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Speaker 7: or it just I would go all the way now

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Speaker 7: with La New Orleans, Miami, and maybe Arizona in Vegas.

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Speaker 7: Those five cities seem to be the best places to

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Speaker 7: have the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, but northern.

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Speaker 7: California doesn't wanna be the best place to have it

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Speaker 7: because it's so spread out. But next year, hopefully we'll

626
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Speaker 7: be talking about the Bengals and the Super Bowl. Say,

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Speaker 7: I have a good feeling about that.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Johns.

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Speaker 3: By the way, A little bit off topic, did I

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Speaker 3: see speaking of coaching searches, Arthur Smith is going to

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Speaker 3: Ohio State?

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Speaker 4: Is that real?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That happened. I forgot about that. Oh no, what's he

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Speaker 4: gonna do with Ohio State? Apparently he's gonna be the

636
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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. What that offense? That can't be good? I

637
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Speaker 4: don't feel good about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't like that was one of those I

639
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Speaker 3: was nervous to bring up because I'm like this, like

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Speaker 3: this is one that I say and then I get

641
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Speaker 3: made fun of for spewing something fake.

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Speaker 4: So I had like heard something on Friday about that

643
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Speaker 4: being a possibility, and I did not really take it seriously.

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Speaker 4: I was like, no, not gonna happen. Man, Sure enough,

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Speaker 4: Arthur Smith, who you know, when he was in Tennessee

646
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Speaker 4: and he was with Mike Rabel and they had some

647
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Speaker 4: good players at aj Brown and Derrick Henry at a

648
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: good left tackle and Taylor Lewan Ryan Tannehill played well.

649
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Speaker 4: Like there's a reason Arthur Smith got a head coach

650
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Speaker 4: job in Atlanta's because of what he did to develop

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Speaker 4: that offense in Tennessee. Sure he really hasn't had those

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Speaker 4: types of horses since, although you could make the argument

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Speaker 4: some of the guys he had in Atlanta. So maybe

654
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Speaker 4: under the tutelage of one Ryan Day and with the

655
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Speaker 4: right Jimmy's and Joe's, maybe the x's and o's will follow.

656
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay, but here's the thing you got

657
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Speaker 4: to keep in mind with Arthur Smith. His father owns

658
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Speaker 4: FedEx oh billionaire, So perhaps a donation to the Ohio

659
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Speaker 4: State nil Fund could perhaps give his son a few

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Speaker 4: toys to play with. Okay, I'm just putting it out

661
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Speaker 4: there now. I get it because you know what everybody says,

662
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Speaker 4: it's the wild wild West. So maybe Ohio State now

663
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Speaker 4: will pony up there offered. They're probably tampering with somebody

664
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Speaker 4: as we speak, get them to Columbus.

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Speaker 3: I also saw along the lines a little bit of

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Speaker 3: the stat we were talking about earlier with schools that

667
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Speaker 3: have not produced a Super Bowl quarterback? Did you see now,

668
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Speaker 3: Austin that there are five schools that have produced a

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Speaker 3: US president and a Super Bowl winning quarterback? Delaware, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that Biden and Flacco? Yeap, Miami of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, who is that? Harrison Harrison, Big

672
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Speaker 4: Ben and big Ben Michigan, Gerald Ford and Tom Brady Stanford,

673
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Speaker 4: John Elway is one of the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And Hoover, Herbert Hoover, who's the other court? And then

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Speaker 3: Navy staw back yep.

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Speaker 4: And uh, don't tell me this one. I know this one.

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Speaker 4: Gosh dang it, who is it? Carter? Oh yeah, Jimmy Carter.

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Speaker 3: Now reason this is relevant if Drake May wins it.

679
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Speaker 3: North Carolina would be the sixth really, James Polk, no kidding,

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 4: Pulk yep, all right, Polk. Have you ever been to

682
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Speaker 4: the University of North Carolina, Pulk for the tar Heels,

683
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Speaker 4: have never been there. No, they say it's gorgeous. I

684
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Speaker 4: would like to go.

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Speaker 3: Well at that place. The ceiling is the roof, yes

686
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Speaker 3: it is. That's where that's built.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of which, Oh, we got to make some time

688
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Speaker 4: for it at some point today. We'll do that when

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Speaker 4: we get back. Derek Rose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's give Derreck Rose his flowers. We'll also

691
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Speaker 3: going to start with mock draft Monday.

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Speaker 4: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to get a phone call in five, one, three, seven,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, we'll take that before we get to out

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Speaker 3: number two. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: PN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station,

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Speaker 3: we would be remissed Austin not to spend a moment

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Speaker 3: to honor one of the all time greats in the

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Speaker 3: history of the NBA and one of the I think

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Speaker 3: biggest what if stories what if his career would have

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Speaker 3: continued without injuries. And that is the jersey retirement ceremony

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Speaker 3: of one Derek Rose. Over the weekend for the Chicago Bulls,

705
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Speaker 3: just a.

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Speaker 4: Kid from Chicago won a couple of state titles at

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Speaker 4: Simeon right there in Chicago. Somehow the Bulls won the

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Speaker 4: lottery and being able to pick him, and they did,

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Speaker 4: and I became the youngest MVP in the history of

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Speaker 4: the NBA and just on the all time great players

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Speaker 4: there is. I don't know that there's any player in

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Speaker 4: the city of Chicago more beloved than Derrick Rose. Like

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Speaker 4: it's a short list, it's Michael Jordan, It's Derreck Rose,

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Speaker 4: like Walter Payton, like those are the three guys. It's

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Speaker 4: amazing how much he's loved. And the Bulls did a

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Speaker 4: great job honoring him over the weekend, I believe. Then

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Speaker 4: they hit a game winner as well, hit a game

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Speaker 4: winner over the Boston Celtics in the corner. Now, last

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Speaker 4: year they had Derrick Rose Night where they like put

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Speaker 4: him in the Ring of Honor, and it was then

721
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Speaker 4: that they unveiled to him, Hey, we're gonna do this

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Speaker 4: again next year, and your jersey's going in the rafters.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And they had a huge win over the Knicks that night.

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Speaker 4: A year ago. They have a big win over the

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Speaker 4: Celtics this time around. It is the first time Tony

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Speaker 4: that the Bulls have been above five hundred in the

728
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Speaker 4: new year of a season since twenty twenty two. Unreal

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Speaker 4: and Michael Jordan made a video for Derreck Rose congratulating

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Speaker 4: him and Michael and the Bulls haven't really seen eye

731
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Speaker 4: to eye for a while. You might know of a

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Speaker 4: guy by the name of Jerry Ryan's y Yes. Anyways,

733
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Speaker 4: if Michael and the Bulls are back in good Grace's

734
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Speaker 4: watch out. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: I I caught myself watching like some old Derek Rose highlights.

736
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Speaker 3: If not for injury, I don't know what that dude

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Speaker 3: could have finished with.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen a more explosive floare yep, Like just

739
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Speaker 4: his ability to again when he wanted to get to

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Speaker 4: the rim. He was going to get to the rim

741
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Speaker 4: to slash, I mean, hit so many big big shots

742
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Speaker 4: And there was a moment like for me as a

743
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Speaker 4: Bulls fan, like those are my favorite teams, like growing up,

744
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Speaker 4: like I loved those Bulls teams like eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

745
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Speaker 4: and they kept running into the heat basically in the

746
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Speaker 4: NBA playoffs, and couldn't get past Lebron And there was

747
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Speaker 4: a moment where all the players were back and talking

748
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Speaker 4: and giving speeches and Leu al Dang pointed to Derreck

749
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Speaker 4: Rose's now retired jersey and said, that's our trophy and

750
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Speaker 4: that just kind of the place went nuts and people

751
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Speaker 4: were crying, Like just goes to show how much those

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Speaker 4: teams meant. I'm in the city of Chicago.

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Speaker 3: The ceremony went over an hour after the game, and

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Speaker 3: it looked like everyone just stayed. Yeah, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: just it was It was a very cool atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls don't do a lot of things right. They

757
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Speaker 4: got one right, but they the last two times when

758
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Speaker 4: they've honored Derek Rose, they've done it so well. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was just it was cool to see

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Speaker 4: that over the over the weekend, and the Bulls said

761
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Speaker 4: there's one exception to anyone ever wearing number one again,

762
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Speaker 4: and that's if Derek's son, PJ every wants to play. Yep.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, man, it was just for me as like

764
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Speaker 4: a sports fan like or as a Bulls fan, that

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Speaker 4: was like one of the coolest things. Following along with

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Speaker 4: that over the weekend.

767
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Speaker 3: Uh, we'll get a mock draft started when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Before that, let's grab another phone call.

769
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Speaker 4: What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 9: Yeah maybe I thank you very much. Yeah, Derrick Rose,

771
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Speaker 9: he could get it done. Man, that the crap kicked

772
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Speaker 9: out of him a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 9: Regarding the football games, guys, the blizzard is what ended

776
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Speaker 9: the game. We know that the blizzard ended the game. Now.

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Speaker 9: I've heard several astute retired coaches talking about this. Peyton

778
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Speaker 9: must have known the bad weather was coming, obviously, but

779
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Speaker 9: he must not have known it was going to be

780
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Speaker 9: that bad. That's the only thing I can figure that

781
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Speaker 9: he didn't go for the field goal. I haven't heard

782
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Speaker 9: his comments. I don't think he much addressed it and

783
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Speaker 9: instead of you know, he looked good at first driving

784
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Speaker 9: after that. But that takes me to the analytics, and

785
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Speaker 9: analytics sometimes can kind of blow compared to co which

786
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Speaker 9: is coaching is an art, you know, it really is.

787
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Speaker 9: There's an art to it, you know, knowing your players,

788
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Speaker 9: knowing how to read them in certain situations, all those

789
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Speaker 9: intangibles that analytics don't take into account. I'll tell you

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Speaker 9: one thing analytics didn't take into account yesterday was the

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Speaker 9: fact that Jared Stenham was playing quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And that's my question.

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Speaker 9: When you use analytics, does it automatically incorporate that you're

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Speaker 9: using a backup quarterback or a backup edge rusher or

795
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Speaker 9: a backup field goal kicker, or does it not?

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Speaker 4: I would think it does.

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Speaker 3: What I thought was interesting was when Sean Payton addressed

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Speaker 3: it after the game. He said, we were trying to

799
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Speaker 3: ride the momentum, wanted to be aggressive and thought, man,

800
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Speaker 3: getting up fourteen, just watching the way the defense was playing.

801
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Speaker 3: Then I would argue that's the reason to take the points.

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00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: If you're going to say, man, our defense is playing

803
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Speaker 3: so well if we go up fourteen, well if you

804
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Speaker 3: go up ten, that's also two scores with your defense

805
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Speaker 3: playing just as well. So not only did I not

806
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Speaker 3: like going for it, I didn't like to call either.

807
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Speaker 3: I didn't like rolling Stidham into the boundary.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It was well decovered, well covered by the Patriots, but

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Speaker 3: it was and at the time Stidham wasn't playing terrible.

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Speaker 3: If you're Sean Payton, you don't know that you're gonna

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Speaker 3: go ten straight drives without scoring a point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, now the now, the well, the ram

814
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Speaker 9: the Rams Seahawks game was just incredible and he couldn't

815
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Speaker 9: ask for a better game. No interceptions, those two guys

816
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Speaker 9: throwing for about seven million yards between them. There were

817
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Speaker 9: mistakes made obviously on both sides. But I think Sam

818
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Speaker 9: Darnold now can be included in the top ten TVs

819
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Speaker 9: maybe in the league. I would think, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 3: He's essentially done it for two full seasons minus h

821
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Speaker 3: two game stretch with the Vikings last year.

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Speaker 9: Now do you and and and Gigma? He is just

823
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Speaker 9: uh yeah, he blows my mind. That guy can play

824
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Speaker 9: anywhere as far as the white out, he can, you

825
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 9: know what I mean? He's said so versatile.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing too. Austin hit on this before the

827
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Speaker 3: show today. The way in which they utilize him in

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Speaker 3: the backfield and in motions behind the quarterback, and they

829
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Speaker 3: move him inside and outside into the field, into the boundary.

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Speaker 3: If you are a Bengal coordinator, you're someone with an

831
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Speaker 3: elite wide receiver, you want to try to emulate that

832
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Speaker 3: as much as possible.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the last nine game, I'll tell you what I'd

834
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Speaker 9: be considering. Getting rid of shore if I was McNay

835
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Speaker 9: because the last nine game, nine games of the season,

836
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Speaker 9: the Rams defense blew.

837
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were terrible.

838
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Speaker 9: And how do you just because before that they were

839
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Speaker 9: one of the best ones. Now, I don't know what

840
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Speaker 9: their schedule was, but it does seem that their past

841
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 9: respective managed somewhat. The secondary went the hell in a handbasket.

842
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Speaker 9: I don't know half the time, those guys would look

843
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 9: at each other like was he mine or is he yours?

844
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Speaker 9: Or it looked bad? Didn't it? Turney and Austin look bad?

845
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Speaker 4: They looked disconnected a lot.

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Speaker 9: Loo like a Bengals second dred craze. It really didn't

847
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Speaker 9: look too good. That's all I got. Guys. But you

848
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Speaker 9: like Seattle or do you like ne Lingland? I gotta

849
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Speaker 9: take Seattle. What do you think is spread will.

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Speaker 4: Be right now? It's four and a half so I

851
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 4: as well?

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00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do too. I think New England. That wasn't

853
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Speaker 9: an impressive game they played yesterday, Not really was.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they've been all that impressive throughout the playoffs,

856
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: to be honest. They've but they've they've capitalized on a

857
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities that have been given to them.

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Speaker 9: Hey, sure, Hi, Thanks you guys, appreciate you have a

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Speaker 9: good one.

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Speaker 4: It was interesting.

861
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Speaker 3: Also, Austin Sean paytone net to the game, said that

862
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Speaker 3: in hindsight, the original run play he called was a

863
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Speaker 3: better decision on fourth and one. Just a lot that

864
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Speaker 3: goes into that, a lot of regrets and for that

865
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Speaker 3: to essentially be the last one you get for the

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Speaker 3: season got to be a tough one to swallow if

867
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Speaker 3: you are the Denver Broncos. When we come back, let's

868
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Speaker 3: look forward a little mock draft Monday for the first

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Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. Hit the microphone, leave us a talkback.

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive into the mock draft. But Austin,

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Speaker 3: while my video game knowledge is improving mostly with a

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Speaker 3: video game question, I come to you still. I have

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Speaker 3: a question for you real quick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this makes me nervous. Well, MLB the Show just

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Speaker 4: tweeted something. Huh.

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Speaker 3: They said, we wanted to let everyone know that this year,

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Speaker 3: we have decided we will not have a new cover

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Speaker 3: athlete for MLB the Show twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's this mean? Well, you know, no one on

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Speaker 4: the cover. I don't think it's that a lot. I

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Speaker 4: think it is that there's going to be a repeat

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Speaker 4: oh athlete. Okay, So basically in the past, when MLB

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Speaker 4: the Show will kind of tease their new cover athlete,

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Speaker 4: they'll change the number of the year, or they'll change

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Speaker 4: the color of the number of the year. And this year,

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Speaker 4: the twenty six has been changed to orange. And so

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Speaker 4: there's some lore here. I don't want to bore everybody,

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Speaker 4: but Barry Bonds has not been in the game for years.

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Speaker 4: Anybody who's like, I don't know exactly how it works.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's like a players union thing

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Speaker 4: or stuff with the suspensions and the steroids, Like Pete

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Speaker 4: Rose wasn't in the game all this other stuff. Barry

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Speaker 4: Bonds hasn't been in the game for a long time,

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Speaker 4: and there has been a belief that that's going to

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Speaker 4: happen soon. And so if you go back to like

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Speaker 4: way back twenty years ago when the company was making games,

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Speaker 4: Barry Bonds was on the cover of like two thousand

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Speaker 4: and three. So people are saying, either a, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be like a Judge and Otani cover. They've both

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Speaker 4: been on it in the past, they both won back

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Speaker 4: to back MVPs. Or it's going to be one of

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Speaker 4: the people who was on it last year. I remember

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Speaker 4: there's three different cover athletes last year. One of them

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Speaker 4: was Gunner Henderson with the Orioles that would be orange.

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Speaker 4: And then the idea of potentially Barry Bonds, Okay being

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Speaker 4: on the game would be a big deal, right those

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Speaker 4: who play it now. I know.

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Speaker 3: Off season around here in the National Football League, on Mondays,

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Speaker 3: we like to get together and do what we call

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Speaker 3: mock draft Mondays. Yeah, now for this edition, do you

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Speaker 3: have a mock draft in mind?

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Speaker 4: I do. Daniel Jeremiah, Hey, Jeremiah, come on down with

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Speaker 4: the first pick in the twenty twenty six mock Draft

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Speaker 4: Mondays Tony Pikes, Sincy three to sixty selects Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah, come on down, you're the first contestant on

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Speaker 3: mock Draft Mondays.

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Speaker 4: DJ released his first mock draft this morning. Okay, all right, now,

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Speaker 4: DJ is the guy that I believe over just about

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Speaker 4: anybody else. He's been on this show. He's a friend

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Speaker 4: of this show and one of our favorites. Do you

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Speaker 4: want to take a guess who he might have as

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Speaker 4: the Bengals selection at number ten, Well, let's.

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Speaker 3: Die the little deal's let's start. I would assume Fernando

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Speaker 3: Mendoza is the top pick. Yeah, we can go through

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Speaker 3: the top ten. Okay, Fernando Mendoza, yes. Number one to

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Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay, Number two, Rvel Reese to

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Speaker 3: the New York Jests, the edge rusher out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Number three, the Arizona Cardinals select Spencer Fanu, the

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Speaker 4: tackle out of Utah. I do was he's legit in person? Legit.

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Speaker 4: At number four, he has the Titans selecting Miami tackle

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Speaker 4: Francis Muyaga. Oh, I don't know if I'm saying is

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Speaker 4: doctor back tackles? That's right? Then the first corner off

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Speaker 4: the board is Mansour Delane from LSU going to the

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Speaker 4: New York Giants. He has the Cleveland Brown selecting edge

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Speaker 4: rusher David Bailey out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you watched any of the college football playoffs,

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Speaker 3: I know they lost. David Bailey was about as impressive

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Speaker 3: as you will find an edge rusher in a game.

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Speaker 4: To impact it, numbers is all over. Number seven to

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Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders is Ohio State linebacker Sonny Styles. He

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Speaker 4: mentioned how great of a tackler he is. At number eight,

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Speaker 4: he has the Saints selecting Jeremiah Love notre Dame Well.

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Speaker 3: As of right now, that means Reuben Bain is on

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Speaker 3: the board. Caleb Downs is on.

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Speaker 4: The board correct. So at number nine, the Kansas City

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Speaker 4: Chiefs select Rubin Bain. I hate the Chiefs from Miami.

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Speaker 4: I hate the Chiefs. According to Daniel Jeremiah, here's what

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Speaker 4: he says, Baine is my favorite fit for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Reid has always had an appreciation for players with a

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Speaker 4: junkyard dog mentality like Ruby. Bain possesses having coach Trent

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Speaker 4: Cole and Brandon Graham in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so run to the podium then and take Caleb

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Speaker 3: Downs at number ten.

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Speaker 4: Caleb Downs is available. Another player that's available is Carnel Tate.

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Speaker 4: There's another wide receiver available from USC, mackay lemon. So.

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Speaker 3: I feel your pick is Caleb Down. Run to the podium.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well. According to Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network,

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Speaker 4: with the tenth pick twenty twenty six NFL Draft, the

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals select Jermad McCoy, cornerback Tennessee. You did this

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Speaker 4: on purpose. Here's what you chose this on porton Here's

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Speaker 4: what Daniel.

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Speaker 3: Jerry not looking at this. Please tell me that this

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Speaker 3: isn't the guy that was hurt.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jeremiah writes this about Jermad McCoy from Tennessee. Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: needs help all over the field on defense. McCoy missed

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season due to an ACL injury.

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Speaker 4: This is a fool, but his twenty twenty four tape

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Speaker 4: was outstanding. He's squarely in the mix to be the

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Speaker 4: top cornerback in the draft. Now here's the other thing

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Speaker 4: that I find interesting, and for what it's worth, he

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Speaker 4: has the Dolphins taking Caleb Downs in the next pick

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Speaker 4: at number eleven. But there's a name that we haven't heard,

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Speaker 4: and that is Peter Woods, the defensive tackle from Clemson.

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Speaker 4: Also true, You've got to scroll a while before Peter

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Speaker 4: Woods is selected. In this mock draft, Daniel Jeremiah has

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Speaker 4: Peter Woods going thirtieth to the Denver Broncos. Now, for

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Speaker 4: the last two months, everybody has had Peter Woods as

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Speaker 4: a top ten to twelve pick. Here's what he writes

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Speaker 4: about Woods. Folks around the league are split on Woods evaluation.

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Speaker 4: Some do not view him as a first round pick,

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Speaker 4: but he has the quickness to add to the league's

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Speaker 4: best pass rush group as an inside rusher. Interesting. What

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Speaker 4: do you make of all of this?

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Speaker 3: Well, the Peter Woods is interesting because, like you said,

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Speaker 3: we've heard his name so much since the season ended

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Speaker 3: out a position of need for the Cincinnati Bengals that

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Speaker 3: to me, Austin immediately makes me concerned because we've seen

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Speaker 3: the Bengals in the past reach for picks that they've made,

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Speaker 3: like Jackson Carmen, people thought was a reach immediately. So

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Speaker 3: if we get closer to the draft and Peter Woods

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Speaker 3: is viewed as a late first round guy continues to

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Speaker 3: fall and the Bengals take him at ten or Bengals

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Speaker 3: trade back and take him at fourteen. I would feel

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Speaker 3: uneasy about that, Yeah, because the goal of this draft

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Speaker 3: for me is sure fire players.

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Speaker 4: Peter Woods.

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Speaker 3: If people are split on him, that would tell me,

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Speaker 3: Austin that he's not a surefire thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know what else would tell me he's not a

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Speaker 3: surefire thing. If the player that you're drafting missed all

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five. Yeah, Like, I don't care how

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Speaker 3: good to tape it is. In twenty twenty four, that's

1013
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Speaker 3: a big time developmental year in college football.

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Speaker 4: If Yeah. And we talked about how it takes players,

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Speaker 4: especially defensive back some time to come back from a

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Speaker 4: knee injury that severe. Man, I mean, we saw Will

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Speaker 4: Johnson drop in the draft because of something like this.

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Speaker 4: The corner out of Michigan. We've seen, you know, Dax Hill.

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Speaker 4: It took him a little while, but he's finally getting back.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be a lot to ask for

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Speaker 4: a guy. Now, he's not going to come in and

1022
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Speaker 4: start right away. But to your point, you need dudes

1023
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Speaker 4: to do that.

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Speaker 3: But also, if you think of the Bengals defense and

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Speaker 3: you say, yes, they need help, all over the place,

1026
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Speaker 3: But is there a position where you might be able

1027
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Speaker 3: to get by this year? I would say corner.

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Speaker 4: If there's a situation there where it's like in this

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Speaker 4: particular scenario where your options are Caleb Downs, I would

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Speaker 4: lose my mind. You're mad McCoy, Peter Woods even honestly,

1031
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Speaker 4: one of the wide receivers. I know that's not a

1032
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Speaker 4: popular take. I wouldn't lose my marbles if they took one.

1033
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Speaker 4: Even Kendrick Falk is available in this scenario. Now, for

1034
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Speaker 4: what it's worth, Kendrick Falk is the edge rusher out

1035
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Speaker 4: of Auburn. He kind of checks all the boxes, yeah,

1036
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Speaker 4: that the Bengals have selected with edge rushers in the past.

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Speaker 4: Here's what he writes about Fulk. He said, he's a

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Speaker 4: tough evaluation, great size, smooth athlete, but I'd like to

1039
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Speaker 4: see him play with a little more urgency. The upside

1040
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Speaker 4: is tremendous, but see Fulk.

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Speaker 3: To me is more of a wild card again, super

1042
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Speaker 3: athlete freakish skills has the production matched at one hundred percent.

1043
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Speaker 4: So and this is gonna be something we talk about

1044
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Speaker 4: a lot of the next couple of months. Your thing

1045
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Speaker 4: is who is the most sure thing possible and go

1046
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Speaker 4: with them. Yes to me?

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Speaker 3: Right now there are two days it's after watching, It's

1048
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Speaker 3: Ruben Bain and it's Caleb Downs. Those are the names

1049
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Speaker 3: I would run to the podium for. And David Bailey

1050
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Speaker 3: would you throw him in there if he's there?

1051
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Speaker 4: Yes?

1052
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Speaker 3: Okay, Edge absolutely like the only ones in the top ten.

1053
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't like rvel Reese fell. Bailey fell. Rvel Reese

1054
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Speaker 3: fell off a cliff at Ohio State this year, even

1055
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Speaker 3: sunny styles if he fell. Position of need you just

1056
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Speaker 3: like the biggest thing for me? Again, who can impact

1057
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Speaker 3: the defense right away? Like we've already had conversations, you

1058
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Speaker 3: like where Dax hil and DJ Turner are right now?

1059
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Speaker 3: That would be the one position group that I'd be like,

1060
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Speaker 3: I'm good waiting.

1061
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Speaker 4: On I I.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't imagine draft night what the reaction would be if

1063
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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs was on the board and they took a

1064
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Speaker 3: player that didn't play in twenty twenty five?

1065
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Speaker 4: What position do you think is the biggest need? I

1066
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Speaker 4: would say for the defense right now, I would put

1067
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Speaker 4: it out either safety or edge rusher. Okay, See, now

1068
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Speaker 4: here's what worries me. We've talked about how The free

1069
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Speaker 4: agent class of defensive linemen, both edge rushers and defensive

1070
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Speaker 4: tackles is relatively thin, so it doesn't feel like in

1071
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Speaker 4: free agency you'll be able to significantly upgrade that position,

1072
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Speaker 4: especially detackle, and it just got thinner. Moments ago. The

1073
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Speaker 4: Chargers and defensive tackle tier Tart, who you might remember

1074
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Speaker 4: came into Cincinnati for a visit last year. Those guys

1075
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Speaker 4: just agreed to a three year contract extension. So tier

1076
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Speaker 4: Tart is now off the board. If you're in a

1077
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Speaker 4: situation like the Bengals and you value that defensive tackle

1078
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Speaker 4: spot and they took Chris Jenkins and McKinley Jackson, they

1079
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Speaker 4: re upped on bj Hill like they have tried to

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Speaker 4: fix that position in the past. What I would fear

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Speaker 4: in this particular scenario is reaching at ten for a

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Speaker 4: defensive tackle for Peter Woods. As we mentioned, he goes

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Speaker 4: all the way at number thirty. The first defensive tackle

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Speaker 4: off the board in Jeremiah's mock draft is Lee Hunter,

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Speaker 4: the defensive tackle out of Texas Tech. He's a red

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00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: shirt red shirt senior. Is what he writes about the

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Speaker 4: Chargers taking them at twenty two. Hunter is one of

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: my early draft crushes. He has outstanding size, quickness and

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00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: the ability to disrupt. He says, with tier TIERR Tart

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Speaker 4: about to become a free agent, hunter Wood provides some insurance.

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Speaker 4: So clearly they've just re upped with Teer Tart. Maybe

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Speaker 4: a guy like Lee Hunter is available. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: there's also Caden McDonald from Ohio State. Those are like

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Speaker 4: the top three defensive tackles. How do you feel about

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: a trade down? I to me, it's about who's available.

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Speaker 4: Like again, if if eight and nine Reuben Bain and

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01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs go off the board, I would be open

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Speaker 4: to it. But, like you mentioned, trying to fill a need,

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 4: the Bengals have failed at safety since they failed to

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: re sign Jesse Bates. They have spent more money in

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01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: trying to find Jesse's replacement than that would have cost

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Speaker 4: them to sign Jesse Bates to a deal. They have

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Speaker 4: failed over and over and over again at that position.

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Speaker 4: And if a sure fire thing was there at ten,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you go past it. I agree

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Speaker 4: like that to me is the most worrisome part of this. Again,

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Speaker 4: Baine Caleb Downs, I think they met the sins Austin,

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Speaker 4: that they match a position of need and the production

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Speaker 4: that they need right position and value that you can

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Speaker 4: plug him in right away and they're proven guys. McCoy,

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Speaker 4: as Jeremiah put here, how much do you know when

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Speaker 4: he sat out all at twenty twenty five, that's a

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Speaker 4: pick to say, man, there's great upside there, but there

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Speaker 4: could also be, you know, the floor kind of falling

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Speaker 4: out from under you a Peter Woods. We viewed him

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Speaker 4: as a top ten fifteen guy.

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Speaker 3: Now people view him as maybe into the first round,

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Speaker 3: we're still going to go there. Maybe there's an upside,

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Speaker 3: but maybe there's also a scenario where the floor gives out.

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Speaker 3: They can't afford the floor to give out. They need

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Speaker 3: the surefire thing. And to me, there's two or three

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Speaker 3: of those that you circle at number ten, which is

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Speaker 3: why this being the first mock draft Monday we go

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Speaker 3: to infuriates me already.

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Speaker 4: And it probably won't be the last before we wrap

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Speaker 4: up just quickly. The AFC North I mentioned Jeremiah has

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Speaker 4: the Browns taking David Bailey at number six, the Bengals

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Speaker 4: taking Jermad McCoy at number ten. At number fourteen, he

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Speaker 4: has the Ravens selecting Olia vega Ione. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I said that right the guard out of Penn State,

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Speaker 4: he has the Steelers selecting wide receiver Denzel Boston out

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Speaker 4: of Washington, and then with the Brown second round pick

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Speaker 4: the twenty fourth, he has them taking Alabama tackle Caden

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Speaker 4: Proctor in that selection right there?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Can I ask you about something that Dion Sanders

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: is doing at Colorado?

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Speaker 9: Sure?

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Speaker 3: I saw this and I wrote this down and I

1139
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Speaker 3: wanted to get your opinion before we get into talkbacks.

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Speaker 3: Dion Sanders has set a new set of rules in

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Speaker 3: place at Colorado, coming off a disappointing season and now

1142
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: in the world of the transfer portal and nil and

1143
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: money with it is what it is, he is now

1144
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: setting fines to be paid by team members.

1145
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: Listen to some of this.

1146
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: Late to practice five hundred dollars if you know show

1147
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Speaker 3: a practice twenty five hundred dollars late to film or meeting,

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01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: four hundred, no show, two thousand, late to strengthen conditioning,

1149
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: a thousand no show strengthen conditioning, fifteen hundred late to treatment,

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Speaker 3: a thousand no show for treatment fifteen hundred, violation of

1151
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: team rules one thousand to twenty five hundred. He list

1152
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 3: those as wearing gear of other schools and different things

1153
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: like that, public or social media misconduct twenty five hundred

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Speaker 3: to five thousand. Do you have a problem with a

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Speaker 3: coach in today's age where these players are getting paid

1156
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Speaker 3: to essentially be professionals. Do you have a coach a

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: problem with a coach who's instituting fines and rules ahead

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Speaker 3: of the season.

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Speaker 4: I don't. However, I'm pretty sure this is illegal. M

1160
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 4: I saw Quincy Avery, the great quarterback coach, talking about this,

1161
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: says you cannot find an employee without a union. That's

1162
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: apparently that's that's a rule. Now, I don't know, I

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01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 4: don't I don't know. I could be wrong, and and

1164
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: he could be wrong, and maybe there's a loophole somewhere

1165
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 4: within the program, in the n C Double A or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I think this is great from Dion. I just wonder

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Speaker 4: if it's another one of those, oh here comes a

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Speaker 4: lawsuit situations, because you if you don't have a union,

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Speaker 4: and eventually we're probably gonna get to a point where

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Speaker 4: college football players do have a union. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I think it's great. I think, you know, if dudes

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: are gonna be making a bunch of money and be professionals,

1173
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 4: you start acting like professionals. Yeah, yeah, it is, and

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Speaker 4: I think that's I think Dion, that's great. I just

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Speaker 4: hope that it's like, you know, actually something he can

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:50,439
Speaker 4: implement and not actually illegal. Yeah, that's because to watch

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Speaker 4: out when you start getting into like union legislation and lawsuits. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's scary stuff there. Very fair. Uh, we'll take a

1179
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Speaker 4: right when we come back.

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Speaker 3: The Monday edition of Talkbacks on the Whole of the

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Speaker 9: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone,

1190
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Speaker 9: please keep it clean and don't be mean and.

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Speaker 5: A sprinkle sprinkle, drip drips.

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Speaker 15: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 4: It's our favorite parter sinc. Three sixty.

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Speaker 16: So Austin buddy, play those talkbacks on your screen and

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01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 16: please dride out to sabotage.

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Speaker 3: The Monday edition of your talk I'm always interested in

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 3: these because a lot of people are out of work today,

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: so are more people listening, leaving talkbacks or less?

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Speaker 4: Well, based off the numbers I have right now, it

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: would be less than what we're used to seeing.

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Speaker 17: Can someone explain to me why when the Rams closed

1202
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 17: the score to twenty six thirty one, why they didn't

1203
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 17: go for two. Then if they had gone when they

1204
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 17: drove down on the next drive, they could have kicked

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Speaker 17: a field goal and tied the game. Instead, they were

1206
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 17: stuck trying to go for on fourth down for a

1207
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 17: touchdown to win the game. They could have gone to overtime,

1208
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 17: even even chance, I questioned a coach.

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Speaker 3: I thought about it at different times, and I wondered

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: if it was just because McVeigh was just not as

1211
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: trustful in his defense that thought, Okay, if we keep

1212
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: it at four, even if they give up a field goal,

1213
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: we can come down and tie it. I don't know

1214
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: other than that, I wondered the same thing at one point,

1215
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: try to go and cut it to three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy, I guess the explanation there is. We don't

1217
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 4: have an explanation.

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Speaker 18: Happy Monday, but I do hope you're all staying safe

1219
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 18: from the warm and made for all the snow boy

1220
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 18: that Bills crash out continue his own social media and hey,

1221
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 18: did they have like six years to figure this out

1222
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 18: with Josh Allen only for the Patriots to rebuild their

1223
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 18: franchise and make it back to Super Bowl before them?

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Speaker 4: Good stuff?

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Speaker 18: And hey, what is uespn all talking about the Bills

1226
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 18: are wasting Josh out and they to trade him like

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01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 18: they have Joe Burrow last summer. Very happer for Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: Hope he wins it all. Great question, great question. It

1229
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: is a great question.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think we obviously there's a lot of Bengals fans

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Speaker 4: that don't trust ownership here, and I understand those concerns,

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Speaker 4: but I also think there are a lot of owners

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Speaker 4: across the NFL that are just as bad, if not worse,

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Speaker 4: and probably worse. I think Pittsburgh is not nearly as

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Speaker 4: well run of an organization and as people think it is.

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: I think Buffalo is not nearly as well run of

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01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 4: an organization as people think it is. Big congrats, But

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Speaker 4: the difference is Pittsburgh has all those years of Super

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 4: Bowl wins to hang their hat on. Yep, Buffalo had

1241
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: those four years of going to the Super Bowl to

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01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 4: hang their hat on. Sure the Bengals don't have that

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 4: happy Monday everybody. I just did that.

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Speaker 19: Sorry, big congrats to John from Boston. Back on the

1245
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 19: wheel again with those Boston fans, I'm sure.

1246
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: And is there a.

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Speaker 19: Better coach to play for than Mike Rabel. The report

1248
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 19: after the game was he told everybody, no curfew tonight.

1249
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 19: Busses leave at eight o'clock tomorrow morning. If you miss

1250
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Speaker 19: the bus, you're not playing in the super Bowl. Talk

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01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 19: about a guy you'd run through the wall with, not

1252
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 19: bubbles for he looks the part definitely.

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Speaker 4: Yep. I thought I had Patriots fatigue, but I just

1254
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 4: love Mike Rabel so much. I think I'm rooting for him.

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Speaker 3: I think John earlier in the day brought it into

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: a little bit better spot of It's it's not the

1257
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: same Patriots that I feel like a lot of people

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: think of when you think of like Belichick and Brady.

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Speaker 4: I also think it would at least got Belichick crazy

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: if veryble won one. And I kind of I kind

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Speaker 4: of want that.

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Speaker 20: Hello, Hello, this wiem James Robert the third Ibamon County.

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Speaker 20: I tell you what Son I mean, it's plum wild.

1264
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Speaker 20: How Johnny Cunningham keeps the job. I mean he's about

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Speaker 20: as useful as a as a pet coon. I mean

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Speaker 20: he just survivor man, He just he just he hangs

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 20: on like a like a hair on a biscuit, doesn't

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Speaker 20: contribute nothing but just hanging around.

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Speaker 4: You ever seen a hair on a biscuit? Uh? No,

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Speaker 4: I can't think of one. I don't think I have either.

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Speaker 21: With Ohio State naming Arthur Smith as their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 21: it's funny to me now that Ohio State has three

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 21: head coaches on their staff and the Browns can't even

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 21: find one.

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Speaker 4: That's true. Also, I need to correct myself. I unfortunately

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01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: last June, Arthur Smith's dad passed away. Oh I did

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 4: not know that, So that was my fault. I didn't

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 4: know that. But he was one of the founders of

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Speaker 4: FedEx Hey Guys, TJ east Side.

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Speaker 22: If Andy Dalton spent as much time trying to be

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 22: a better quarterback as he did taking the time to

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 22: cooff and fluff his hair every god forsaken time, I

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 22: mean every time he took off his helmet, he may

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01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 22: have won a playoff game Seattle and the pass for

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Speaker 22: that matter, or an example of what good ownership, good coaching,

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 22: good drafting, and a well bounced team can do without

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Speaker 22: an elite quarterback.

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Speaker 18: Good for Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 22: Now, imagine what good ownership and good coaching.

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Speaker 4: Could do with the likes of a Joe Burrow. We

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Speaker 4: you may never know. Let's get jess in a Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl MVP already early split man, So.

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Speaker 23: Guys, big Kahona in Kentucky, I'd be remis if I

1294
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 23: didn't call out. You know, you talk about the Nick

1295
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 23: gaff Lander out of safety for the Seahawks, the guy

1296
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 23: from North Dakota State on the line, and just how

1297
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 23: good they are, and you know, trying to reference to

1298
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 23: those guys that the Bengals missed on that it wouldn't

1299
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 23: matter if the Bengals had them or not, they wouldn't

1300
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 23: be there. Seahawks are good because they got to coach.

1301
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 23: Bengos stink because they don't have a coach. You could

1302
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 23: take any players you want, you could put him and

1303
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 23: coach in the Seahawks and they'd be a six win team.

1304
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 24: Taylor stinks, West Miller stinks.

1305
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 6: Man, Hey, well very far from catch strutting now hearing

1306
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 6: Sonny hots one.

1307
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 4: Man, you lose to Asu, that's it ASU. Y'all. Y'all

1308
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: don't understand.

1309
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 6: ASU is bad, and we made them look like they

1310
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 6: was a tournament team. It's embarrassing, man, ten and ten,

1311
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 6: five hundred seasons done. Press the fire seat on West,

1312
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 6: get him out the door. See you West. We don't

1313
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 6: need you no more. You did where we're coming from.

1314
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 6: Is it baseball season yet?

1315
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 4: Oops?

1316
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 6: I forgot the Reds already waded white flag on that

1317
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 6: one too. I'm confused about Cincinnati Sports are worried about

1318
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: Ronnie this weekend back here for a double up. Just frustrated, man,

1319
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 6: I mean, Cincinnati Sports is just very last right now.

1320
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 6: You got the Reds already waving the white flag saying nope,

1321
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 6: we're not getting the bat.

1322
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 4: They don't want to play to the ballpark's advantage.

1323
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 6: You got the Bearcats football and basketball program flat out

1324
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 6: lost the identity. We once was pretty good in football,

1325
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 6: we went to the playoffs. Now we're nothing. We don't

1326
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 6: have no identity. In basketball, we used to be a defensive,

1327
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 6: physical team. We had nothing, and the Bengals did. The

1328
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 6: Bengals help us.

1329
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: Man deserves better. It's a rough Monday for Ronnie.

1330
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 25: Ron Hey, Ydie, this is quint from Okeley. I just

1331
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 25: want to let you know that Arthur Smith's father is

1332
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 25: the late.

1333
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, got all that, got all that.

1334
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 10: Good afternoon, gentlemen. I was supposed to have a knee

1335
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 10: replacement surgery today, but Rosser had other ideas, so it

1336
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 10: is going to be rescheduled. Anyway, I'm happy about my Cats,

1337
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 10: even with the patchwork lineup the Pope's having to throw

1338
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 10: together with all the injuries, they're playing pretty well. We'll

1339
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 10: see how they do come March.

1340
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 4: Anyway, go big blue c A T s.

1341
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: They say, congratulations man to Kentucky and good luck Ken, Ken.

1342
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: I wish you had that new kne today. Brother, Yeah,

1343
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: all we need shirt. Tony's good friend.

1344
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 26: Brother, And from what I could see on tape of

1345
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 26: Peter Woods, I think uh pear Woods be an extra

1346
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 26: first rounding for the Bengals if he's there, if nobody,

1347
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 26: if the other guys are gone that they wanted the

1348
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 26: other edge rushers that he's inside, I think he's a

1349
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 26: good pick for number one if he's there.

1350
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I didn't know brother was grinding Tam. Brother.

1351
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 12: I hope there was a very nice vigilante out there

1352
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 12: who was shoveling driveways with all this snow. His name

1353
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 12: the art man. The only thing he can't do is

1354
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 12: stopping Tony Pike's from entering other people's hotel rooms.

1355
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: Have a good day, gentleman, well said, Well said, You're

1356
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: not going to live that one down.

1357
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 27: Hey, Joe from Casey here talking about vabral and liking

1358
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 27: him coaching the Pats, I'm the same way.

1359
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 4: I do, really like him.

1360
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 27: I wonder how many coaches we'll look back at from

1361
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 27: last year and this year that got hired and think

1362
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 27: of who the Bengals could have had and didn't because

1363
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 27: they hung on the Zac too long.

1364
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: Or maybe who will get for holding on to happen

1365
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: at the end of next year.

1366
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 15: I just don't see good things happening.

1367
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a couple guys available next year that weren't

1368
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 3: this year.

1369
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 20: Who knows who's a brad in the Ibas Bred.

1370
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 28: Anyways, snow report from a blue ash yap how we

1371
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 28: got about nineteen twenty inches on the corner of Kenwood

1372
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 28: and Kipa.

1373
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,520
Speaker 18: It is date buzz.

1374
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 28: But uh, I gotta agree with Austin and the majority

1375
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 28: of NFL ownership stinks. There's like two or three teams

1376
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 28: that have good owners. They all stink bra back.

1377
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 4: Thank you, brad Man. He said it's deep. He said

1378
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 4: it's pretty deep. That's deep. Let's go back to Quinn.

1379
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 4: Let's let Quinn finish his talk back.

1380
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 25: Hey, y Audie, this is Quinn from Okeley. I just

1381
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 25: want to let you know that Arthur Smith's father is

1382
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 25: the late Fred Smith. He had passed June, knowing that

1383
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 25: used to being a former Fedish employee. TEX really powers

1384
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 25: are nil. I don't know they're funding to Memphis, but

1385
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 25: there is always that off chance that maybe FEDIX will

1386
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 25: pour some funding to the NIL collectives to a hostag.

1387
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 4: We will never know, or maybe we will. I don't know.

1388
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 4: I can't say hello.

1389
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 16: This is for the freezing President Ronald Reagan with a

1390
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 16: few random thoughts on this weekend. First, the West Miller

1391
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 16: era at UC is as dead as William Henry Harrison. Second,

1392
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 16: Sam Darnold has the entire quarterback draft class from twenty

1393
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 16: eighteen spinning in their unshoveled driveways. Oh, and I'm not

1394
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 16: really holding my breath at a quarterback from my alma

1395
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 16: mater will get a team to the Super Bowl.

1396
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 4: Go Eureka, Red Devils, Eureka. I'm not sure I've ever

1397
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: heard of Eureka. Man, where's this at? I'm looking it up.

1398
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 4: The Eureka Red Devils, Eureka College. Where's Eureka College?

1399
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm gonna say Pennsylvania, never heard

1400
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: of this? No hold on Eureka, Illinois. Okay, all right,

1401
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 3: that was our last.

1402
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: One Red Devils. Yeah, the Eureka Red Devils down Eureka, Illinois.

1403
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of the stuff, do you what's your stance on

1404
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: shoveling the driveway?

1405
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: I say, do it all at once.

1406
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: See the last couple of snows we've got. I've been

1407
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: really good about, like every two hours going out there

1408
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 3: and shoveling. Obviously, the majority of the stuff that hit

1409
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: over the weekend was overnight. It was miserable, miserable yesterday

1410
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 3: trying to shovel. I just I don't know how people

1411
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: do it. I with how cold it was, I feel

1412
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: like I saw more people out shoveling than I've seen

1413
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: in my neighborhood in a long time.

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01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 4: Just brings everyone together. Yeah, I mean I do. I

1415
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: totally understand why people when there's like major snowfall like this,

1416
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,959
Speaker 4: it makes sense to go out and get it a quick.

1417
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: Especially when it's going to be so cold that the

1418
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: snow's not going anywhere right now? What do you make

1419
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: about the people that are like changing they put tarps down?

1420
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: Now have you seen this?

1421
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean whatever works for you, Okay, the innovativeness

1422
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: that tarp removal might be just as much of an

1423
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: issue as I was wondering that. I'm like, the video

1424
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 4: makes it look easy. Yeah, but I don't know if

1425
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 4: it's that easy. What if it like freezes right like

1426
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: that's if it gets stuck. Yeah. Yeah, I stay a

1427
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 4: little short of the tarp stuff and Austin start bench cut.

1428
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 22: Society, Bearcats playing Arizona State, Alex Harnold climbing type A

1429
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 22: one on one watching the Pro Bowl.

1430
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: I'll keep a couple of branches. We can go off here. Well,

1431
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: I'll keep watching that dude free climb. We're gonna I

1432
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 3: was gonna talk about. I wrote that down to talk

1433
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: about when we come back from break. At this point,

1434
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: I will start that. I will bench the Pro Bowl,

1435
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: which is the first time ever because I can't stand

1436
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 3: watching the Pro Bowl, and I will cut watching UC

1437
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: versus Arizona State.

1438
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm cutting you see, I'll start the Pro Bowl because

1439
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 4: I think it's fun, and I'll bench the other thing

1440
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 4: because I don't need to watch stuff that gives me

1441
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 4: anxiety like that.

1442
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that, dude when we come back.

1443
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: Let me before we do tell you this should or

1444
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 3: Sanders has been added to the Pro Bowl, right, Yester.

1445
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: So the AFC Pro Bowl quarterbacks were Drake May, Josh Allen,

1446
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: and Justin Herbert May is in the Super Bowl. The

1447
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 3: other two are hurt. Bo Nix is hurt. Patrick Mahomes

1448
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 3: is hurt. Daniel Jones is hurt. Apparently Rogers is not available. Burrow,

1449
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: I guess not available A little more apparently not available?

1450
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 4: Would you? I would have rather than put Philip Rivers

1451
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: in yep, just as like a Lifetime Achievement Award. It's

1452
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 4: one of the craziest things, like the NFL Pro Bowl rosters,

1453
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 4: how guys can make the team. It's not that serious anymore.

1454
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 4: And I think when you look at like when it

1455
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: comes to like putting guys in the Hall of Fame,

1456
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 4: eventually it's just not going to be a tenable sure,

1457
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 4: Like it's not going to be a metric that we

1458
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 4: should use.

1459
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: But like, come on, yeah, that put Phil Rivers in there.

1460
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: I think to me, it goes a little far. Yeah,

1461
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: should do or sayd the should don't unbelievable, thinks unbelievable.

1462
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who doesn't stink. Travis Steele in the

1463
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: Miami RedHawks. Travis Steele is going to be in studio

1464
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 3: with us. We'd have that at two o'clock. We'll also

1465
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 3: spend time when we get back with a couple more

1466
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: year phone calls five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

1467
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 3: And this dude that was free climbing that building. I

1468
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: have some thoughts when we get back on the Home

1469
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 3: of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 13: For more information about contests on this.

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Speaker 1: Station, go Let's get back in the action. Tony Pike,

1472
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: since three sixty is back now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: Welcome back since E three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

1474
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: Sports Station. Travis Steele will join us in studio ESPN

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01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station at the top of our

1476
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: number three. That's just in a few minutes. By the way, Austin,

1477
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: I went back and had to look Shador Sanders this

1478
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 3: year completed fifty six percent of his passes for fourteen

1479
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 3: hundred yards, seven touchdowns, ten interceptions.

1480
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 4: It's not good, I think, if you're gonna be one

1481
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,440
Speaker 4: of these guys.

1482
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: As QBR was eighteen, a Pro Bowl alternate or a

1483
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl replacement that needs to be denoted.

1484
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 4: Like you can't say shud Or Sanders is a Pro

1485
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 4: Bowl quarterback. You could say he participated in the Pro

1486
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 4: Bowl games. Like there's got to be a difference between

1487
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: name to a Pro Bowl and participating in the Pro

1488
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 4: Bowl events. There's got to be a distinction at some

1489
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 4: point the about dudes that have made you.

1490
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 3: Know, the Pro Bowl quote unquote, I don't understand. Yeah,

1491
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: I I'm baffled by it. Not as baffled as I was, though,

1492
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: as I glued myself to the TV on Saturday night. Now,

1493
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 3: I was waiting for the UC Bearcats to take the floor.

1494
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: And at this point I wish I had just gone

1495
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 3: to sleep a little bit earlier and saved myself the trouble.

1496
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: But on Friday, Austin alex Honld was supposed to climb

1497
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 3: the type A one oh one skyscraper without ropes or

1498
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 3: a safety net that was supposed to happen on Friday.

1499
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: The weather Friday was raining, and well, you can't climb

1500
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 3: one of the tallest skyscrapers in the world while it's

1501
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 3: raining with no harness.

1502
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 4: Makes sense, You just can't do that. Now.

1503
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: Honald before Saturday, was best known for climbing the three

1504
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: thousand foot El Capitan without safety gear in twenty seventeen.

1505
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 4: Believe that's a mountain, right, that is a mountain.

1506
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 3: Okay, three thousand feet El Capitan in Yosemite National Park.

1507
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: And when you look at that, believe it or not,

1508
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: it makes the building and he climbed on Saturday looked

1509
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 3: pretty easy.

1510
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 26: Now.

1511
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: A couple things from this one. It was broadcast live

1512
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 3: on Netflix, and I don't want to be the guy

1513
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 3: that has to ask it. What if he fell? Right,

1514
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 3: what was the plan? Because if he falls, he's.

1515
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 4: Not gonna make it, He's going to die. Yes.

1516
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 3: Would they have just broadcast a person dying on Netflix

1517
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 3: had he fallen?

1518
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 4: I believe it's on a delay, okay, And it would

1519
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 4: have been a significant delay so that once if he

1520
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: would have fallen, they would have made it almost seem

1521
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 4: as if they lost the feed and they had something.

1522
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure something was ready to say unfortunately, there's been

1523
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 4: a real, a real accident here and and well it's

1524
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 4: not an accent. I mean you're basically inviting death. Correct,

1525
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: it's crazy as he's standing up there and it's so windy,

1526
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 4: and he takes a selfie.

1527
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: That was the thing for me. Now that's when you know,

1528
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,440
Speaker 3: you get the wind was incredible.

1529
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Legs gotta be tired. I'd be a little wobbly, and

1530
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: then you got to get back down.

1531
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 3: What about the grip? How about his hands? Yeah, that's

1532
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: I mean insane strength, like he got the very top

1533
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: was like sick. But I mean, yeah, there's uh, there's

1534
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: something in place there on a delay to just say

1535
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 3: unfortunately Alex. So he did so, he did so, and

1536
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: I believe it was just over an hour and a half. Yeah,

1537
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 3: so it wasn't like he was taking his time either.

1538
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: One hour thirty one minutes.

1539
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 4: That's what I've been so impressed with is like he

1540
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 4: did it so quickly.

1541
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 3: There is a frenchman, Alan Robert, who calls himself spider Man. Okay,

1542
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: he climbed this same building with ropes and a harness

1543
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: and it took him four hours. This dude, Alex did

1544
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: in an hour and a half without a rope or

1545
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 3: a harness, and all he's got is like the powder

1546
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: in his back pouch. And he kept like taking one

1547
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: hand casually off while he put more powder on. He

1548
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: got to the top at one point, what no hands.

1549
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 3: I just don't get. I don't get how people can

1550
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: do stuff like this.

1551
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 4: It is incredibly impressive to know that, like, if you

1552
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 4: mess up, you are going to die. That's it, and

1553
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 4: you're dead. There is something pretty amazing about the focus

1554
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: with all the different stuff, Like you cannot, under any

1555
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 4: circumstance lose your focus, like is complete, like locked in,

1556
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 4: And that is the most impressive thing to me.

1557
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got like struggle, and he's got people

1558
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 3: in the buildings as he's going up that are raving.

1559
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 4: To him, waving to him, and like dude, no, no,

1560
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 4: Like if you're standing at that window and you're waving

1561
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 4: at him and he falls, how do you feel for

1562
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 4: the rest of your life? Yeah, I feel like I've

1563
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: murdered a.

1564
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: Guy seventeen hundred feet no ropes, an hour and thirty

1565
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 3: one minutes, one slip in, you're dead.

1566
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 4: And we're just seeingamord by it. I didn't watch any

1567
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 4: of this. I don't. I don't want to watch.

1568
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: I was locked in because, like you said, when he

1569
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 3: got closer to the top and the wind was whipping,

1570
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, let's call it.

1571
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 4: Like my question is what possesses you to want to

1572
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: do something like this? Yeah? Why other than like the

1573
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 4: incredible incredible like physical achievement and feeling like you've done something.

1574
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 4: Why why?

1575
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: They They were they were talking about like this deep

1576
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: dive into how he could do this, and at one

1577
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: point they were, you, are you familiar with like the

1578
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 3: whoop the bracelet thing. No, it's like a health bracelet

1579
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 3: attracts a lot of stuff for you with sleep and

1580
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: stress and everything. It's almost like a or a ring

1581
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 3: or a watch something like that. But they were talking

1582
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: earlier that this this honold gets five or more hours

1583
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 3: of RAMS sleep every night, wow, and that the studies

1584
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 3: have shown that that amount of REM sleep can decrease

1585
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 3: your essentially fight or flight response. So while normal people

1586
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: would be scared, the amount of REM sleep he gets

1587
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 3: scientifically helps him to not have that fear.

1588
01:27:56,240 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: Interesting, Okay, so like like just have studied this guy, Okay, yeah,

1589
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 4: that makes sense. It's incredible though, I mean that's gotta

1590
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 4: be I mean that sort of sleep is crazy. Like

1591
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,959
Speaker 4: I've been tracking my sleep. I gotta watch for Christmas

1592
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 4: and like it's it's a battle between like me and

1593
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: my friends too, like compete with our sleep scores and

1594
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 4: how much rim you get attracts all that stuff, And

1595
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 4: you know, I struggle a little bit lately. I gotta

1596
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: do a bad sleep A had a seventy nine sleep

1597
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 4: score last night. Not good, not good, not enough rim. Yeah.

1598
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 3: He he's had multiple studies done where scans of his

1599
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 3: brain that would display fear never light up.

1600
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 4: That's wild.

1601
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 3: He also has a wife and children, which I'm not like.

1602
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't think I'd be like, all right, dad, good luck,

1603
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 3: let's go knock this one out.

1604
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 4: That's the part I like, That's what I don't understand.

1605
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 16: You.

1606
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 4: How do you not fear number one? How do you

1607
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 4: not fear death? Number two? How do you not fear

1608
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: the impact it would have on them? Correct? What are

1609
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: they doing during these climbs? Yeah? I mean, you know

1610
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 4: she they can't be watching, can't watch right? I don't

1611
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 4: think so. I don't think so. If Meredith were doing this,

1612
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 4: would you watch? No?

1613
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 3: I don't think I would be no. We we'd probably

1614
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: be in a bad place, like, oh, money's tight, I

1615
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 3: gotta go climb again. Tony just sits at home waits.

1616
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: But there's another show on Netflix. I believe he get

1617
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: paid for this five hundred thousand dollars. Oh okay, So

1618
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 3: people were actually they thought that was disrespectful to him

1619
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: because of how much money Netflix made on the event.

1620
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't think it's that bad. I mean,

1621
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: there's no amount of money that would like there. I

1622
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: couldn't Austin for money do that with ropes on, like

1623
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm that scared of heights. Yeah, I get it. I

1624
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 3: couldn't do anything like that. But I think I think

1625
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,440
Speaker 3: huntl had a I think his climbing of El Capitan

1626
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 3: was I think there's a documentary about that as well.

1627
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 3: So obviously this isn't the first time someone's made a

1628
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 3: documentary or something about.

1629
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 4: Him watching a time lapse as we speak about this

1630
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 4: guy and based off of that, like this had to

1631
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 4: be a cake walk for him, Yeah, after El Capitan.

1632
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 3: Well, also on that it's free solo, it's actually his

1633
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 3: travel up El Capitan, Yeah, which is that's just a

1634
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: wild rock formation.

1635
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's got to be so much harder than right,

1636
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

1637
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 3: Like, have you ever seen, as crazy as it sounds,

1638
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: that building was probably so much easier than what he's

1639
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 3: used to. Have you done any sort of rock climbing,

1640
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'll tell you my extent of rock climbing. None. Okay,

1641
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: We've gone to a place in Pigeon Ford it's called

1642
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 3: WonderWorks and they've probably got like a fifteen foot rock

1643
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 3: wall to you strap him with a harness.

1644
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even do that. What's like the most scared

1645
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 4: you've ever been? Like of heights? Like, is there a

1646
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: moment you point to where it's like, I'm so uncomfortable.

1647
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 4: I've told this before.

1648
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 3: We used to We went to King's Island every year

1649
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 3: during our camp at UC and drops On at King's Island,

1650
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 3: the ride that takes you up slowly and then drops

1651
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: you down. If you've ever been on it, They strap

1652
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 3: you into a seat belt and then they like bring

1653
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 3: the the shoulder harness over you and then they belt

1654
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 3: that in place as well. And as we were starting

1655
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 3: to go up, Craig Carey, one of the other quarterbacks,

1656
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 3: unbuckled my shoulder harness. Now the shoulder harness locks in place.

1657
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 3: The belt is just an extra safety precaution. But so

1658
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 3: your life wasn't that much in dager I was. I

1659
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 3: was scrambling so much without trying to move because I

1660
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 3: was already like scared to death without trying to move.

1661
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 3: And I finally got that clip back together. But I

1662
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 3: was honestly scared to death in that moment.

1663
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 4: I give you credit for even doing that, because I

1664
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 4: won't even ride the drop zone.

1665
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 3: Well you know it's team bonding. Yeah, no, every position

1666
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: group had to do one. No, that's there's no way

1667
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: that's worth it.

1668
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I think my dad used to like he

1669
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 4: has to.

1670
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 3: He would used to like bribe me with like being

1671
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 3: able to play games or win prizes for me to

1672
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 3: ride roller coasters before. So, but that moment will stand

1673
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: out to me forever. I was so scared.

1674
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 4: I don't know that I've I don't have like a

1675
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,799
Speaker 4: crazy fear of heights. I do get a little wobbly,

1676
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 4: you know, and just I have like real bad motion sickness.

1677
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 4: So I don't do roller coasters real well, but I

1678
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 4: have done them. The moment I think of is when

1679
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 4: my dad and I went to Chicago and in the

1680
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 4: Sears Tower or whatever it's called now, the Willis Tower.

1681
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: They have Skydeck Chicago, which is up at the top

1682
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 4: and those big glass boxes where you walk out over

1683
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 4: the building. I've done that twice. To me, the key

1684
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 4: is you just walk out there with your eyes straight

1685
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 4: and then you look down because too many people make

1686
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: the mistake of like looking down. So my dad is

1687
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 4: really afraid of heights. Yeah, and so one of the

1688
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 4: highlights of my life. One of my all time favorite

1689
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 4: memories of my me and my dad is I got

1690
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 4: him to step out onto that ooh. And I was

1691
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 4: like holding him basically, and you know, people are looking

1692
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 4: at us. But you know, to his credit, he said

1693
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: all right, and he did it. And so that that

1694
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 4: moment right there is like one of my favorite moments.

1695
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 3: Everywhere there's a there's a bridge in Gatlinburg. It's called

1696
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: the Skybridge. It's relatively new. Yeah, it's like eighteen hundred

1697
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 3: feet high. It goes in between two mountains, longer than

1698
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 3: two football fields, and it's this huge sturdy structure.

1699
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 4: But the floor is glass. Yeah, no, no need for that.

1700
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 3: And the bridge will shake a little bit naturally. I

1701
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 3: couldn't physically get myself to step on the bridge last

1702
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 3: time we tried. That's how bad it is. Like, I'm like,

1703
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 3: these railings are too low. I could fall over them,

1704
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 3: I can trip. All the things that would happen. No,

1705
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 3: I could just walk right down the middle of it.

1706
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 3: It's thick, it's huge, But I couldn't physically get myself

1707
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 3: to step out there. Maybe if I'm getting more rem sleep,

1708
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 3: maybe that's my problem.

1709
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 4: You could. I think you could use some rimsleep.

1710
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll maybe I'll work on that at home today

1711
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 3: as soon as I get home. How are the kids

1712
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 3: doing good? All right, I'm gonna go. I gotta get

1713
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 3: I gotta catch up on run. I gotta go catch

1714
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 3: up on rim. So my fight or flight instincts kick

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Speaker 3: in a little bit better. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 4: What do what Travis Steel thinks of all this?

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ask him, but his team is twenty

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01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 3: and oh they're the top twenty five team now in

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01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: the country, And regardless of all of that, regardless of

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01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: a snow emergency outside, regardless of his team playing tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: he's nice enough to stop by and and join us

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Speaker 3: in studio. We'll talk to him next on ESPN fifteenth

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 14: Station WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 14: thirty I Hard Radio.

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Speaker 4: From the Baker Heating Temp Start.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty About Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, Cincy three sixty. Roll along here.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. We we have an

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Speaker 3: honor and a privilege right now to talk some college hoops.

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01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 3: And let's talk some high level college hoops with a

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Speaker 3: top twenty five ranked Miami RedHawks team, and the head

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01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: coach of the Miami RedHawks, Travis Steel, is in studio

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01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 3: with us today. Appreciate the time, Coach, what's going on?

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01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, Tony just picking the easiest

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01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: day to get the studio.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know this.

1739
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 8: We got snowmageddon going on out here. But you know what,

1740
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 8: there's no stopping us.

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01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: This is it's kind of the microcosm of your guys

1742
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: season right now. Obviously you guys have had hurdles, but

1743
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: nothing has stopped you to this point twenty and zero.

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 4: The way you guys have won. About it.

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01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: I want to get to the games you've just played

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01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 3: in the ones that are coming up. But when as

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01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: a coach, when do you get an idea it is

1748
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 3: we've talked off here. It's a different landscape in the

1749
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 3: college world. So you get guys in or you know

1750
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 3: you have guys coming back. When as a coach, do

1751
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 3: you know, Okay, this is a team that can do

1752
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 3: something special?

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01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 9: You know?

1754
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 8: I knew we had a chance to be really good

1755
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 8: after last year.

1756
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,719
Speaker 5: We won twenty five games last year, single season record

1757
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 5: at Miami, and we were able to retain a good

1758
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 5: portion of that roster from last year into this year.

1759
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 5: So we only had to add one guy to the

1760
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 5: transfer portal, which is really unique in today's landscape and

1761
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 5: keeping kids. Yeah, the retention piece is the key, and

1762
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 5: we hit on our eVols, right. I think that's what

1763
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 5: it comes down to. We're very confident what we evalue,

1764
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:58,839
Speaker 5: our evaluations in our high school recruitments, our development of players.

1765
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 5: You see guys like Brant Byers or evanep Sorrow or

1766
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 5: Ian Elmer, these guys take a massive jump. I knew

1767
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 5: that they would, right, They're great kids, they work hard.

1768
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 5: We got a great staff and I felt like they'd

1769
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 5: take a massive jump. So I'm not surprised with our success.

1770
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 5: I knew we had a chance to be really good.

1771
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Speaker 3: A little bit about that evaluation period, because again it's

1772
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 3: a different landscape. And listen to coach Kyle last week

1773
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 3: talking about the high school recruiting and how this world

1774
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 3: affects that, and there's a trickle down effect to all

1775
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 3: of that. So I would imagine anymore, it's never ending

1776
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 3: the evaluation process of you or your staff. There's never

1777
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: a time to just feel comfortable within a season because

1778
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 3: you're always looking forward to the next one and who's

1779
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: going where? So how does that process even come together?

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01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 5: You know, I think Number one, you trust your own eyes.

1782
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 5: You know you value what you value, right, It's all

1783
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 5: about fit. Just because one thing fits at one school

1784
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that it'll fit at another school, right, or

1785
01:37:55,880 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 5: another situation. Knowing thyself, negotiables and our staff's done a

1786
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 5: good job. We use high school as our main source

1787
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 5: of recruitment, which a lot of people weren't doing sure

1788
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 5: when the transfer portal came around. Get old, Stay old, right,

1789
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 5: But we did. We used high school. We brought in

1790
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 5: five kids my second year out of high school and

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01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 5: we just brought it. We got five freshman on our

1792
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 5: current roster right now as well, and we developed them,

1793
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 5: we get them better. And I think it's good to

1794
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 5: see kids in the AAU setting. It's good to see

1795
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 5: guys in a high school setting, sure, right, because they're very,

1796
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 5: very different and can guys play with other really good players, right,

1797
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 5: guys at have one like you look at a guy

1798
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 5: like Evan epsar Ok from CUFCAF winner yep right, Ian Elmer,

1799
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 5: state champion at Taft High School. Right, Trey Perry's a

1800
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 5: local kid here from Lakota East winner Peter Souter won

1801
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 5: US two state titles at Carmel High School. Justin Kirby

1802
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 5: won a state title at Fisher's Winners win Man And

1803
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 5: I'm a firm believer in that. And then getting guys

1804
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 5: obviously that are talented as well skilled, that fit our

1805
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 5: style of play and our core values.

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01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 8: That's kind of been the key man throughout our evaluations.

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01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 3: I've had the guys in studio from Red Brick Legacy before,

1808
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 3: Matt mchw and Kyle Decker and those guys and talking

1809
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 3: about just the nil side of it, but also you

1810
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 3: mentioned the retention side of it. I think that speaks

1811
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 3: more volumes than anything to a program when you do

1812
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 3: have success, and you mentioned last year's success, but to

1813
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 3: come back and have guys that that say I want

1814
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 3: to come back and build back into this that as

1815
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: a coach in today's world has to be very gratifying

1816
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 3: that that you're doing it the right way that kids

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01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 3: want to still be around it.

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01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll never forget Tony.

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01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 5: I met with Peter Sooter right after our game against

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01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 5: Akron and the Mac Championship game last last.

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01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 8: Spring and sat down.

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01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 5: I had all these notes, man like, hey, listen how

1823
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 5: the season went for him individually, for us as a

1824
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 5: team moving forward, And he said, hey, coach, can I

1825
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 5: see something before we get started? And I said sure,

1826
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 5: And he said, hey, I'm not going anywhere. You know,

1827
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 5: he was the first team All Mac player right. People

1828
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 5: were tampering with him. It is what it is. And

1829
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 5: he zero hesitation. He said, I love this place. I've

1830
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 5: never played better in my life. We're gonna win, like

1831
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm getting better and getting a great degree.

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01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 8: And I was like, dang. I called my wife Amanda

1833
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 8: right after. I said, listen, what we're doing is working.

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01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of reaffirmed that a little bit

1835
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 5: and that our culture culture does still matter and they

1836
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 5: didn't ask for a dime, you know which again, which

1837
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 5: is just speaks volumes to who he is and who

1838
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 5: his family is. And retention is a bad premium. It

1839
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 5: really is, I think for fans too, because you get

1840
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 5: to see the same player get better.

1841
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to follow college sports now.

1842
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: It is.

1843
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 5: Well, you get these mercenaries right one year hit guys

1844
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 5: and it's like, do we have to do that a

1845
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 5: little bit? Yes, but I'm still holding on to the

1846
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 5: old model a little bit more than what probably a

1847
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 5: lot of other schools are now.

1848
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 3: Your team seven times this year you've eclipsed a one

1849
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 3: hundred points, including each of the last three games, and

1850
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 3: those last three games themselves what it took to come

1851
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 3: from behind to beat Buffalo talk about the Kent State

1852
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 3: game as well. But in a season in which you're

1853
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 3: having you see it all the time, you have to

1854
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 3: have these type of things happen. You have to be tested,

1855
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 3: and you have to have guys that are going to

1856
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,879
Speaker 3: answer the test, and you find ways to win games

1857
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 3: that maybe in the past you had and or maybe

1858
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 3: at times you don't deserve or feel like you're gonna win.

1859
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 3: That's the kind of the melting pot of what goes

1860
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 3: into a season like you're having right now.

1861
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 5: Ye winners find a way, you know, even when you

1862
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 5: don't maybe play your best game, you figure it out.

1863
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:13,440
Speaker 8: Our group's unflappable.

1864
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 5: Like if you could go into our huddles during those

1865
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 5: media timeouts, which we have way too many media timeouts

1866
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 5: if you ask me, but again that's for another day.

1867
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 8: But our guy. You hear our guys' voices in there.

1868
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 8: It's not just me. I hear Peter Souter.

1869
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 5: I hear Evani Psarros out for the year, arguably the

1870
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 5: best mid major point guard in the country. He's been

1871
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 5: out for nine games. Man, he's having a great year.

1872
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 5: And you hear his voice. He's on crutches and he said, guys,

1873
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 5: we got this. We're fine. We've been here before, and

1874
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 5: it's like, man, it's so refreshing to hear. The player

1875
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 5: leadership that we have on our team allows us to

1876
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 5: navigate those tough moments and fix it live, which a

1877
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 5: lot of people can fix it after the game right

1878
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 5: watching film, Hey, we gotta do this. That's you know,

1879
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 5: the Monday quarterbacks is what they call that. That's a

1880
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 5: Monday quarterback. You know, like our guys can do it live,

1881
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 5: which is super super impressive.

1882
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: You know, I thought the Kent State game, out of

1883
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 3: a lot of impressive games, I thought it was for

1884
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 3: me the most impressive because there has been this fight

1885
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 3: in this push, not just locally, but you're seeing it nationally.

1886
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 3: Scott Van Pelt is talking about Miami basketball and ranked

1887
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 3: Miami basketball, and I'm watching along and then you guys

1888
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 3: get ranked and here you go to an away match

1889
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 3: at Kent State. They're giving away beer, they're giving away jerseys,

1890
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 3: they're giving away tickets, and it's like playing sports. You

1891
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 3: get it, like there's there's sometimes all right, we get

1892
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 3: we've got there. We can relax a little bit. I

1893
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 3: think that was the most impressive part about the Kent

1894
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 3: State game for you guys, is everything going on off

1895
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 3: the court. You guys come out on fire and then

1896
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 3: you face adversity in the second half and you find

1897
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 3: a way back. To me, I think you check so

1898
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 3: many boxes in one game and one event.

1899
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 5: Incredible environment too, Tony. It was sold out, like to

1900
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 5: your point, they were giving away free jerseys, free free tickets,

1901
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 5: for everything to get as many people in there as

1902
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 5: they could. You know, again, I'm not surprised our guys

1903
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 5: that I love visuals, and I showed it. I showed

1904
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 5: our guys a picture of a guy driving with a

1905
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 5: phone in his hand. And I asked those guys, said

1906
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 5: what do you guys see And they said, well, I

1907
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 5: see a guy texting and driving. Antoine Wolfolk said that

1908
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 5: and I said, well, is that a good thing? He

1909
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,480
Speaker 5: said no. I said why. He said, because he's distracted.

1910
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 5: He says, exactly right, I said, the front windshield. We

1911
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 5: got to keep your eyes on the front windshield, on

1912
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 5: the obstacles that are in front of us. We can't

1913
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 5: start reading all of our press clippings and all the

1914
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 5: stuff that's on the phone and all this social media

1915
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 5: stuff because all the games are in the rearview mirror

1916
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 5: that the you know, the nineteen previous games or in

1917
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 5: the rearview mirror. There's a reason why the review mirrors

1918
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 5: are so small. You got that's in the past. Nobody

1919
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 5: cares sure. You got to look forward and you can't

1920
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 5: be distracted. Our guys do a great job of just

1921
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 5: staying focused, embracing the process day to day.

1922
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 4: And as a coach.

1923
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 3: Now you understand and they understand because of the team

1924
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 3: you have that you're not sneaking up on anyone. Now

1925
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 3: you have the tar or get squarely on your back.

1926
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 3: Is that something obviously you guys played Kent State last

1927
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 3: week at the weekend off UMass tomorrow? Is that something

1928
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 3: you even have to have the discussion with or because

1929
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 3: of the group you have, and it's kind of known

1930
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 3: we got the target now.

1931
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, they know.

1932
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 5: I mean everywhere we've gone, it's been almost a sell out,

1933
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 5: you know. And we want to be the hunter. Oh,

1934
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 5: I've told those guys that's another analogy. So we want

1935
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 5: to be the hunter, not the hunted. We want to

1936
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 5: be the aggressor. We play to win everything we do.

1937
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 5: And no, but that's how we attack weights, it's how

1938
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 5: we attack film, it's how we attack practice, not just

1939
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 5: game days.

1940
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 4: How exciting is it as well?

1941
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 3: And I know this upcoming weekend you've got the one

1942
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Miami basketball weekend, so the doubleheader sold out with the

1943
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 3: women's and your guys team as well. But a chance

1944
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 3: for I think as well, people that may not be

1945
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 3: around the program as much or are still new to

1946
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 3: the program or coming into it. How important are days

1947
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 3: like that to get people to Malet Hall and see

1948
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 3: what you guys are obviously building in person.

1949
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to give a special shout out to

1950
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 5: our women's basketball team. They're undefeated in MAC play. Yeah,

1951
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,799
Speaker 5: their role in Glynn Box's, but it's a great opportunity

1952
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 5: see both teams get behind both programs. I think they're

1953
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 5: both We're both have really really been trending up. You

1954
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 5: look Glenn Box, this is his third year. He's got

1955
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 5: them rolling first place in the MAC. We're obviously first

1956
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 5: place in the MAC as well during my fourth year. Again,

1957
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 5: I always say, be obsessed with trajectory, not necessarily the results, right,

1958
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 5: and we are both moving up and it's a good

1959
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 5: brand of basketball. Yeah, not only we win it. I

1960
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 5: think it's a fun line watch guys, our guys and

1961
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 5: girls both play really, really, really hard, and they play

1962
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:30,879
Speaker 5: for one another and are extremely connected.

1963
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 4: I think that's the point. They're playing for one another.

1964
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 3: You have star power on your team, but you also

1965
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 3: have the guys that'll make the extra pass, that'll share

1966
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 3: the basketball, that'd like to move the basketball. It's just

1967
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 3: a from from if you're a fan of just basketball.

1968
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 3: I think in today's world, there's a lot of instances

1969
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: where it feels like one on one, but it feels

1970
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 3: like you know you're you're playing at the rect league.

1971
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 3: Instead of man, they share it, they move it, you

1972
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 3: find the open guy. It's a it's almost a selfless style,

1973
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 3: and you're seeing the fruit of the labor now as

1974
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 3: it comes together.

1975
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 5: I think a lot around college athletics people are collecting

1976
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 5: stats the kind of impacting winning. There's a difference. Our

1977
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 5: guys only care about one thing and one thing only,

1978
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 5: and that's winning. Ian Olmer could could care less whether

1979
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 5: he scores twenty five or whether he scores ten, because

1980
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 5: there's gonna be certain games where he's gonna have to

1981
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 5: score twenty five. There's gonna be certain games worth ten

1982
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 5: maybe the answer for us to win, right, and he

1983
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 5: is more than fine with that. He puts the team

1984
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 5: in front of everything else, which is special.

1985
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 3: Do you guys talk openly about finishing it off an

1986
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 3: undefeated season. I know you set goals at the start

1987
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 3: of the year. I'm sure a MAC championship, NCAA tournament,

1988
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 3: things like that. Do you embrace it, do you talk

1989
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 3: about it, or do you have that one game at

1990
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 3: a time mentality, and we.

1991
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 5: Just take it one day at a time, you know.

1992
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 5: And it's funny. I told our guys I could care

1993
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 5: less about our record. I would play to win. Yeah, listen,

1994
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 5: I want to make that very cool. We're super competitive, right,

1995
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 5: But my overarching theme is that trajectory piece. Are we

1996
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 5: getting better? Can we peak at the right time in March?

1997
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 5: That's when we need to be at our best. That's

1998
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 5: got to be always the front thing in my front

1999
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 5: wind shield. Like it's like for me, it's like, are

2000
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 5: we getting better?

2001
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 4: Are we not?

2002
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 5: Obviously there's obstacles to get there, right, Certainly you mass

2003
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 5: on Tuesday night.

2004
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 8: But at the same time, are we getting better? That's

2005
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 8: my whole thing.

2006
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 3: On the on the UMass side of thing. It has

2007
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 3: it's been a weird weekend. Whether it has been an issue,

2008
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be an issue. Might just

2009
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 3: feel different going into a game like that. But again,

2010
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 3: you lean back on the group that you have to

2011
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 3: kind of just say, Okay, here's another obstacle in your

2012
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 3: way and you move past that.

2013
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 5: We just figure it out, man. You just roll with

2014
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 5: the punches a little bit. It is what it is.

2015
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 5: You can focus on the things you can control. That's

2016
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 5: what our group does.

2017
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a testament to your team.

2018
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 3: As I was watching the Kent State game. At times,

2019
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 3: Kent's going on a run and different things, and I'm

2020
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: looking like man coach looks confident on a sideline, he

2021
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 3: looks relaxed. It's like you know the group you have,

2022
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 3: and you know how they feed off each other. And

2023
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 3: like you said, it's a fun style of basketball to

2024
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 3: watch and I look forward to continue to watching more

2025
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 3: and can't thank you enough for stopping by it ahead

2026
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 3: of tomorrow night's game.

2027
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on.

2028
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 3: That is coach Travis Steele of the Miami RedHawks. The

2029
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 3: undefeated top twenty five ranked Miami RedHawks in action tomorrow

2030
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 3: night against UMass. We got plenty more to go cinty

2031
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 3: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2032
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 8: Now here's your.

2033
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

2034
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

2035
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 4: How cool was that?

2036
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 3: A day before a massive game for the twenty fourth

2037
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 3: ranked Miami RedHawks. Travis Steel nice enough to spend time

2038
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 3: with us today. Really good stuff from coach, and I

2039
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 3: do I appreciate austin In in today's landscape of college

2040
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 3: hoops in college sports that he still has like the

2041
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,799
Speaker 3: old school approach. We're going to retain guys, we're gonna develop,

2042
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get guys out of high school.

2043
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 4: Love that mentality, and the RedHawks have moved up a spot.

2044
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 4: It's right top twenty five up to number twenty four.

2045
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 4: That's it now in the country. That came out just

2046
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 4: a little bit ago. The you see bear Counts are

2047
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:04,440
Speaker 4: not ranked.

2048
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 3: You see Bearcats are off to a brutal, brutal start.

2049
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 3: They are now ten and ten on the season. Just

2050
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we were what a moment last week leading

2051
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 3: into the Arizona game, talking and thinking about, man, if

2052
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 3: they could come off the win against Colorado and Iowa

2053
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 3: State and follow that up with a win against Arizona.

2054
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 4: And we know and we knew that it was going to.

2055
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 3: Be an uphill battle against Arizona, and Arizona was really good.

2056
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 3: The problem comes after the Arizona game because you then

2057
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 3: took on one of the worst teams in the Big twelve,

2058
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 3: Arizona State, and by all accounts, you put up a

2059
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 3: non competitive effort, especially in the second half. My biggest

2060
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 3: concern right now the Arizona game. Austin Dade Thomas, who

2061
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,719
Speaker 3: is supposed to be one of, if not the leader,

2062
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 3: on this team, played twenty nine minutes and had two points.

2063
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: On Saturday Night. Dayde thom has played thirty minutes and

2064
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 3: registered zero points. Your leader, your best player, according to

2065
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 3: some over the last two games, has played fifty nine

2066
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 3: minutes and had two points. Not going to win a

2067
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 3: lot of games with that. Gisel James in the last

2068
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 3: two has played fifty three minutes ten combined points. Just

2069
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 3: not going to get it done. Boba Miller was awesome again.

2070
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 3: He had twenty three Mustapha Cham had fifteen. No other

2071
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 3: Bearcat reached double figures. One of the other questionable things

2072
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 3: that have come out of this game Austin is Seana Bive,

2073
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 3: who I thought put together his best game as a

2074
01:50:55,360 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 3: Bearcat against Arizona nineteen minutes, thirteen points, flash four to

2075
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 3: Saturday Night A five played just four minutes against Arizona State.

2076
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 3: Things like that, to me, they don't make much sense,

2077
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 3: and it was a weird box score. You see shot

2078
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 3: at forty five percent, pretty much spot on with Arizona State,

2079
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 3: who shot at forty seven percent. Both teams were okay

2080
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 3: from the foul line. You see actually out rebounded Arizona State.

2081
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 3: They had more assist than Arizona State. They had more

2082
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 3: steals than Arizona State. The issue is, you see turned

2083
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 3: the ball over fifteen times for seventeen points for Arizona State,

2084
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 3: and the three point line. You want to talk about

2085
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 3: a vast difference, four for seventeen for the Bearcats, thirteen

2086
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: of twenty eight for Arizona State. Arizona State made nine

2087
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 3: more threes twenty seven more points than the Cincinnati Bearcats,

2088
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 3: who again dropped back to back games. They falled at

2089
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 3: ten and ten on the season, two and five in

2090
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 3: the Big twelve. Do we have a little west Miller

2091
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 3: after last or after Saturday Night's loss?

2092
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 11: Uh?

2093
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 8: Just disappointed, very disappointed.

2094
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 10: Uh.

2095
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 24: We didn't defend like we needed to tonight, which is

2096
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 24: frustrating because we've been playing really well there. The turnovers

2097
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 24: I thought were the the worst part of the game

2098
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 24: for us, and they resulted in baskets for them, and

2099
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 24: that set us apart. Missed some layups that resulted in

2100
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 24: baskets on the other end that were huge swings.

2101
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 8: So obviously we're not.

2102
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 24: We're very frustrated with tonight's performance, and we're gonna do

2103
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 24: what we've done all year, and that's uh, respond and

2104
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 24: get back to it and get ready to play another

2105
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 24: big twelve game on Wednesday.

2106
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 10: The points of turnovers was that just trying to force

2107
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 10: it into much inside. Obviously that was an absence to

2108
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 10: get it inside, but sometimes it just wasn't there.

2109
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 24: I think some of them are really careless. You know,

2110
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 24: there's some there's some careless turnovers. May passes that aren't there.

2111
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 24: You're not catching the ball and you know, kind of

2112
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,759
Speaker 24: moving before you catch it. Just catch it and secure

2113
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 24: in it, whether it's a play in the paint or

2114
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 24: a play in transition. And there's a couple of footwork,

2115
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 24: there's a footwork turnover. I mean, there's it's not one thing.

2116
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 8: When you have.

2117
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 24: Fifteen, it's it's generally not one thing. But that was

2118
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 24: really frustrating. But the way they capitalize on the turnovers

2119
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 24: was about the biggest swing in the game for us.

2120
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 3: All right, So that is part of Wes Miller for

2121
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 3: the record. The ten and ten mark, for you see,

2122
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 3: is the worst mark through twenty games of a non

2123
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 3: shortened college basketball season since two thousand and seven and

2124
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Out of

2125
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 3: the ten wins Austin, would you like to take a

2126
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 3: guess on how many of those ten wins have been

2127
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 3: attained outside of Fifth third Arena?

2128
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 4: Two zero oh.

2129
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 3: They've yet to win away from home, and that includes

2130
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 3: the shootout at Xavier.

2131
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 4: It includes a couple.

2132
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 3: Neutral site games, which we talked about weren't really neutral site.

2133
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 4: They lost to Louisville at.

2134
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 3: Heritage Bank as well, But this Bearcats team yet to

2135
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,839
Speaker 3: get a win outside of Fifth third Arena. The good news,

2136
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 3: if there is any silver lining, is they do return

2137
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 3: to fifth third Arena on Wednesday night to take on

2138
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 3: the Baylor Bears. After that a Saturday trip to number

2139
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 3: ten Houston, followed by West Virginia and UCF coming back

2140
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 3: to Fifth third Arena. That is where the latest is

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Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. For the Xavier Musketeers, a little

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Speaker 3: bit different of a feel. While Xavier did come up

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Speaker 3: short against Saint John's on Saturday, this team continues to

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Speaker 3: find ways, in my opinion, to put.

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Speaker 4: Their best foot forward.

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Speaker 3: I watched Xavier on Saturday almost in all you know

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Speaker 3: Travis Steele talked about, you know, a.

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Speaker 4: A fun.

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Speaker 3: A fun atmosphere, a fun style of play.

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Speaker 4: Is what.

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Speaker 3: Travis Steele in Miami play with. You could say the

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01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 3: same thing about the Xavier Musketeers. Look at the points

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Speaker 3: they're putting up, look at the problems that they that

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01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 3: they give to opposing teams and coaches. It's it's not easy,

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Speaker 3: and they're doing so with if we're being all honest,

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01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 3: Richard Patino not probably playing with the full deck right now.

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Speaker 3: A piece together a roster Trey Carroll against Saint John's

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Speaker 3: had thirty one points. They continue to fill it up statistically. Now,

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Speaker 3: they do struggle defensively, and there are drawbacks when you

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Speaker 3: play the style of offense in which Xavier that it

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Speaker 3: does leave you a little bit vulnerable on the defensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball. But for a majority of that

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Speaker 3: game on Saturday, against a very good Saint John's team

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Speaker 3: who is now eight and one in the conference, Xavier

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Speaker 3: I thought was better. I don't think Xavier had the

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Speaker 3: better players, but I think Xavier is getting more out

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Speaker 3: of their players. Forty eight percent from the field, forty

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Speaker 3: three percent from three, eighty four percent from the foul line.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was remarkable. They led for almost sixty

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Speaker 3: percent of the game. They just didn't have enough to

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Speaker 3: withstand a final Saint John's run. And I do mention

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this before. Saint John's was led by former

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bearcat Dylan Mitchell seventeen points, seven boards, six assists,

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Speaker 3: four steals in the game. He was really a catalyst

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Speaker 3: in that comeback effort that Saint John's was able to

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Speaker 3: put together to knock off the Xavier Musketeers. It's win

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Speaker 3: number nine hundred for Rick Patino. Here is what Richard

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Speaker 3: Patino had to say after the loss.

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Speaker 15: Well, proud of proud of our guys.

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Speaker 29: I mean the Saint John's, one of the best teams

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Speaker 29: in the country, did a lot of really good things

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Speaker 29: to jump them early. Their defensive pressure, their size, their physicality,

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Speaker 29: their toughness certainly wore us down.

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Speaker 15: We give up some live ball turnovers.

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Speaker 29: So disappointed, but told them to hold their heads high.

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Speaker 29: You know, Saint John's is a championship program. We're gonna

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Speaker 29: get there, and proud of the effort from our guys.

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Speaker 3: Malik said, the offense just got a little too stagnant

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Speaker 3: in the second half.

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Speaker 4: Do you concur with that?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, they were denying one pass away. You have to

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Speaker 29: drive the ball, and they're switching everything, so you know,

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Speaker 29: you if they're gonna be all the way denying one

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Speaker 29: pass away, you got to be willing to drive the ball.

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Speaker 15: We didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: Trey said, the game came down to rebounding, just like

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Speaker 3: it did against Creighton.

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Speaker 4: What led to the I know you've got.

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Speaker 29: Saint John's a significantly better rebounding team. I would say

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Speaker 29: that if we play Saint John's ten out of ten,

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Speaker 29: it's gonna be hard to out rebound them. They're physical,

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Speaker 29: they're strong, they're tough. Again, foul trouble, but I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 29: We did a great job battling on the boards as

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Speaker 29: best we can.

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Speaker 18: Richard, it seemed like there was a chaotic moment there

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Speaker 18: where I think a double foul was called about four

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Speaker 18: eighteen to go, and it seemed like there was a

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Speaker 18: lot of chaos and late in that game.

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Speaker 4: How do you coach the team through it?

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Speaker 22: And can you tell us explain to us what happened

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Speaker 22: in that for.

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Speaker 15: He talking about the the goaltend that they called off, No,

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Speaker 15: the two fouls simultaneous fouls.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean, I didn't agree with it, but I

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Speaker 29: got to rewatch it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 15: I mean, at the time you're talking about the the the.

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Speaker 4: Block, the two fouls.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, we're he one the block when called yard correct.

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Speaker 29: To me, it looked like a block. Hard to tell.

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Speaker 29: I'd have to go back and watch. So they went

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Speaker 29: to the jump arrow, so is.

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Speaker 4: What it is?

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Speaker 3: So that that to me, I just feel like Austin

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Speaker 3: when you watched Xavier and you listen to Richard Patino.

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Speaker 3: I know that that they would obviously want to be

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Speaker 3: winning more than they are right now. But I think

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01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 3: there's a growing confidence amongst Xavier fans and folks that

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 3: watch college basketball that can say, man, Xavier got it

2229
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 3: right with Richard Patino, and they're trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: You could just see that when they play the game,

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01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 3: their style, I just everything that they're doing I think

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Speaker 3: is I think it's putting them in a very good

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01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 3: situation going forward for Xavier. Speaking of going forward, they

2234
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Speaker 3: go forward on the road. Next a Wednesday night game

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01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 3: at Seaton Hall, and then over the weekend DePaul comes

2236
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 3: into town and then it gets no easier for the

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Speaker 3: Xavier Musketeers, who after that will travel to number two

2238
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Speaker 3: ranked Yukon and back into the top twenty five today.

2239
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:54,919
Speaker 3: A return trip to see his father Rick at Saint John's.

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Speaker 3: That all comes up next for the Xavier Musketeers. Next

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Speaker 3: for us is a break well.

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Speaker 4: When we come back. Oh, we got to get better

2243
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 4: at teases. Oh you remember this? Yes? Yes, Where were

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Speaker 4: you on this date in history? Oh that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you when find out next along with your

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Speaker 3: phone calls on Cincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back sincey three.

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Speaker 3: Sixty from the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. This day in history, Austin, What did happen?

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Speaker 4: It's not a happy one. This is one where a

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Speaker 4: lot of people know exactly where they were on this date.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, Oh boy, when Kobe Bryant, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: eight others, including his daughter Gianna, were killed in a

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Speaker 4: helicopter crash in Calabasas, California. This was the surreal start

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Speaker 4: to the craziest year of most of our lives, which

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Speaker 4: was twenty twenty. But I remember, like I was sitting

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Speaker 4: at home playing video games. It was a Sunday, there

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Speaker 4: was nothing going on, it was cold outside, and it

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Speaker 4: just everything starts to come out that Kobe died in

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Speaker 4: a helicopter accident, and it was I mean, that was

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Speaker 4: one of the you know, celebrity deaths. I guess you

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Speaker 4: could say that really had an impact on Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: One of those things like you remember specifically when it

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Speaker 3: happened and where you were. It was an unfortunate my

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Speaker 3: mayor my wife her birthdays on the twenty eighth, so

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Speaker 3: that year you mentioned it was on a Sunday. We

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Speaker 3: had had a bunch of family and friends over on

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Speaker 3: that Sunday to celebrate her birthday. And I remember like

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Speaker 3: the initial reports coming out on social media and everyone

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Speaker 3: said the same thing, Oh, that's fake, that's fake, And

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Speaker 3: as those started to gather more and more, you're like,

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Speaker 3: wait a second, and then to get those official reports. Man,

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Speaker 3: I just remember the shock that went around it because

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Speaker 3: of how polarizing and popular Kobe was.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was, it was. It was insane, and

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Speaker 4: it felt like he was you know, he had obviously

2278
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 4: been retired and it was about to start this next

2279
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 4: role of his life that it felt like was gonna

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02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 4: be just as good as he was as a basketball

2281
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 4: player off the court as well, and all the stuff

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Speaker 4: he had done with the Mamba Academy and with his daughters,

2283
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Speaker 4: and he had just won an Emmy for like writing

2284
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Speaker 4: for it was a short film or something that he

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Speaker 4: had done. Yeah, that's that's still to this day, that's

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Speaker 4: a tough one to swallow. Yep, I completely completely agree.

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Speaker 4: We got Mowen just a few minutes. We'll grab one

2288
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Speaker 4: more phone call. Hey, Scott, what's up?

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Speaker 30: Hey, guys, So I did watch that whole building climbing event,

2290
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 30: and you're right. El Capitan was much more difficult. They

2291
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 30: didn't have the ledges that they did for him there.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 30: I won't say it was too easy, but one of

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Speaker 30: the things that you mentioned was the delay. You guys

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02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 30: are on the seventh second.

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Speaker 4: Delay, right something like that. Yeah, they were on.

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Speaker 30: A ten second delay, if that gives you any kind

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Speaker 30: of a little more context to what they were doing.

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Speaker 30: And there was a point in time where he hooked

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Speaker 30: his leg under like a vented part of the buildings

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Speaker 30: and had let go put his hands near the top.

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Speaker 9: Near the top.

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Speaker 10: It was.

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Speaker 30: It was, it was insane.

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Speaker 9: It was very uncomfortable, and his wife was.

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Speaker 30: I think you probably knew that his wife was there

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Speaker 30: watching him the whole way, and she was actually on

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Speaker 30: the seventieth floor at one.

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Speaker 4: Point in time when he came by. So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 30: And I don't know if you saw his workouts. His

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Speaker 30: workouts included pull ups where he would put his hand

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Speaker 30: in a thing that was cut out for the fingers

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Speaker 30: and then he would just lift himself with his fingertips. Wow,

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Speaker 30: not the hand, his fingertips.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 30: The upper body was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did see the one clip where like his

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Speaker 4: shirt's kind of blown in the wind. Yeah, he's got

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Speaker 4: like an eight packs.

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Speaker 3: Like the upper body strength, the grip strength, everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. It was.

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Speaker 9: It was definitely a seat.

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Speaker 30: Even even though for him maybe it wasn't his hardest,

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Speaker 30: it certainly appeared to be there. There are videos out

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Speaker 30: there now people going to the corner of that building

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Speaker 30: where he got on it and trying to do that

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Speaker 30: themselves and giving.

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Speaker 4: No chance right away, no chance. It was remarkable, no chance. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it was thank you, Scott. That to me, like in

2330
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Speaker 4: his world, how easy was that? Right?

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Speaker 3: Because like, again you watched some of the videos of

2332
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Speaker 3: him climbing out Capitan, like when you do that, and

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Speaker 3: obviously you're not doing something like that unless you're extremely

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Speaker 3: confident and you train all the time for that. Like

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Speaker 3: does he ever slip in training or is it just

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Speaker 3: at this point so he's so comfortable doing it that

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Speaker 3: as long as you can get over the fear of heights,

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Speaker 3: it's nothing. And I'm not downplaying what he did, but

2339
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Speaker 3: it's like, I think that was easier than most of

2340
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Speaker 3: the climes he's done because he had something in platforms

2341
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Speaker 3: to hold on to. Remarkable in any sense, and uh,

2342
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Speaker 3: ridiculous strength and athleticism and focus and so many other things.

2343
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Speaker 3: All of those things I think, Austin you could use

2344
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 3: as synonyms for Mowager.

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Speaker 4: I agree to describe him all very applicable to focused, strong, prepared, prepared,

2346
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 4: well thought, in great shape, great shape.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that with Mo next as

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Speaker 3: we put a bowl in today's episode of Since He

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Speaker 3: three sixty right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for a quick hits on Tony Tykes.

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Speaker 4: Since he three was looking for Mo, we got him.

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Speaker 4: He's joining us right now. Mowager coming up next, Boy,

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Speaker 4: The Mowager Show. What's up, mo fellas? How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: How are you? Oh? I've never been better.

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Speaker 11: Life is good. I have not shoveled a driveway today.

2356
02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 11: Have you built a snowman yet?

2357
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 9: Uh?

2358
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 11: That the snow has been too powdery. I think for

2359
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 11: that to happen. We tried to go sledding, We tried

2360
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 11: to build a snowman, and the snow simply would was

2361
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 11: not can do to either activity.

2362
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Speaker 4: But we did.

2363
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Speaker 11: We did have some fun in it, given the fact

2364
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 11: that the mound, the mountain of snow that is accumulated

2365
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 11: next to the sides of my driveway has made for

2366
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 11: It's made for for fun edifices.

2367
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 4: Behind which you can have a miniature snowball fight. Very nice.

2368
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 4: I see you as like a buddy of the Elf

2369
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 4: type of guy when it comes to a snowball fight.

2370
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 4: Like you're really high volume, got all the the intangibles

2371
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 4: of a great snowball fighter.

2372
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 11: Do you use there like a big neighborhood thing you

2373
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 11: do or what? No, Actually, we haven't even had the

2374
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 11: snowball fight. But if we do, and the snow is

2375
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,240
Speaker 11: not going to go anywhere anytime soon, we we've got

2376
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 11: a couple of large structures behind which you could you

2377
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 11: could hide as you're firing snowballs.

2378
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 4: What do you have Coming up on the show this afternoon.

2379
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 11: We are going to discuss the inevitable overreaction to yesterday's

2380
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 11: AFC Championship game. We are going to talk about the

2381
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:01,400
Speaker 11: greatest athlete in the world, recap the weekend that was

2382
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 11: in college basketball. You'll perhaps hear a defeated sounding Wes

2383
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 11: Miller will talk about the most difficult offseason decision the

2384
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 11: Bengals made, and a tweet that I saw this weekend

2385
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 11: that surprisingly made me sad.

2386
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you seeing Xavier both lost over the weekend,

2387
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 3: it did not feel like the same thing. Xavier led

2388
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:23,800
Speaker 3: by as many as sixteen playing a very good Saint

2389
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 3: John's team. Oddly enough, I thought Dylan Mitchell was a

2390
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 3: huge catalyst in the comeback for Saint John's that gets

2391
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 3: Rick Patino's nine hundredth win. But as I watch Xavier, MO,

2392
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 3: I just see a fun style of play. I see

2393
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 3: the ball moving, I see them playing at a higher level,

2394
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 3: and I see them improving every time I seemingly watch them.

2395
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 3: Do you do you take that in when watching Xavier

2396
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 3: as well?

2397
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean in the second half they got out manned.

2398
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 11: Xavier beat him on the glass. Second chance points they

2399
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 11: had fourteen in the second half. I thought that was

2400
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 11: the difference in the game. Tray Carroll was very good.

2401
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 11: He didn't have a lot of help, and that's to

2402
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,120
Speaker 11: be expected. But yeah, like we've talked about it here

2403
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 11: really since Big East play started, Xavier's got a really

2404
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 11: fun offensive identity. They don't have enough high end Big

2405
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 11: East players, and Richard Patino, i think would be the

2406
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 11: first to tell you that.

2407
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 4: But you know, they dug themselves.

2408
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 11: I think it was a twenty to eleven hole in

2409
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 11: the first half, and then offensively they were something to behold.

2410
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 11: Now again, they got outmanned in the second half. The

2411
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 11: defense kind of fell apart. But you know, we talked

2412
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 11: about this a little bit last week. I think if

2413
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 11: you're a Xavier fan, you are very pleased with the

2414
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 11: coaching that you're getting from Richard Patino. The contrast on

2415
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 11: Saturday night was that was a bearcat team that in

2416
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 11: a game there for the taking. Look, they have to

2417
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 11: be awesome on offense to win in the Big Twelve,

2418
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 11: but you've always felt like you can lean on the defense.

2419
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 11: On Saturday Night, you could when the defense isn't there.

2420
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 11: You kind of expect the offense to not be there,

2421
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 11: and what happens is what happens in ten p A

2422
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 11: fourteen point loss to a not great team.

2423
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:02,040
Speaker 3: Might worry about Saturday moo is the one constant we've

2424
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 3: talked about with UC all along the way is they've

2425
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 3: played really hard. It felt to me and Austin brought

2426
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 3: up to point maybe it is the loss against Arizona

2427
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 3: and a leeddown after that, But since since we've talked

2428
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 3: this year about this team, playing heart has not been

2429
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 3: an issue. It felt like at times they were a

2430
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 3: little bit checked out on Saturday night, which I think

2431
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 3: is very very interesting to watch going forward with the

2432
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 3: rest of this schedule.

2433
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 11: You wonder when human nature is going to take over, right, Like,

2434
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 11: I think the best teams in all of sports are

2435
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 11: the ones that don't allow human nature to take over.

2436
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 11: Travis Steele has this issue right now. His team is

2437
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 11: twenty to zero. They're getting attention, right they're ranked moved

2438
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:48,440
Speaker 11: up to the twenty fourth ranking in the AP Top

2439
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 11: twenty five. And yet you've got to stay focused, You've

2440
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 11: got to stay locked in, you've got to stay focused

2441
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 11: on the next opponent. Human nature sometimes takes over. I

2442
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 11: fear with the Bearcats. You worry about human nature taking

2443
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 11: over there an tournament team, I mean, you know, get

2444
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 11: mad at me for saying it. They're ten and ten.

2445
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 11: So you're on that team. You know you're not getting

2446
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 11: to march. You know you're not getting to march madness.

2447
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 11: You hear the noise about your coach, you also understand,

2448
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 11: you know your future is uncertain, and maybe in a

2449
02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 11: good way and maybe not.

2450
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 4: So good of a way.

2451
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 11: And so I think it has been fair to wonder

2452
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 11: about the focus, not just for this team, but for

2453
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,000
Speaker 11: others dropping a little bit. You know, they had the

2454
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 11: build up to or they're gonna host the number two

2455
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 11: team in a country in Iowa State, and the build

2456
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 11: up to we're gonna play the number one team in

2457
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 11: a country in Arizona.

2458
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,240
Speaker 4: Could you be as focused.

2459
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 11: As you needed to be against a not great Arizona

2460
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:42,560
Speaker 11: State team with a lot of noise hovering over that program,

2461
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 11: all the noise hovering over your program? Could you put

2462
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:50,040
Speaker 11: that aside and have a focused effort? And on Saturday

2463
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 11: the answer was no, And maybe that proves to be

2464
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 11: an outlier. It is completely reasonable to wonder if that

2465
02:11:56,120 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 11: it will prove to be because.

2466
02:11:58,080 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 4: There's still a lot of season to go.

2467
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:02,800
Speaker 11: Man, right, you know, I felt like that game on

2468
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 11: Saturday felt like it was being played in late February,

2469
02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 11: where you're like, all right, a couple more weeks to go.

2470
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,360
Speaker 11: There's six more weeks of this before we get to

2471
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 11: the Big twelve tournament.

2472
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2473
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:15,160
Speaker 3: What do you make of if you look back on

2474
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:19,040
Speaker 3: the the NFL season? Is there one point that stands

2475
02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 3: out in the Pro Bowl year of Shador Sanders.

2476
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 4: Draft Nights? It's unbelievable? He said, No, it was Jake

2477
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 4: Browning next. Oh my gosh, he had to close. I said,

2478
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 4: put Philip Rivers in there. I uh there.

2479
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 11: I'm sure if we did like the list of players

2480
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 11: who appeared in the Pro Bowl games who didn't have

2481
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:48,720
Speaker 11: Pro Bowl caliber seasons, it would be pretty lengthy. But yeah,

2482
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 11: Shador Sanders now has has that hang as Haunden.

2483
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 4: And it's amazing. You know, Kevin Stefanski developed a Pro

2484
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 4: Bowl quarterback and then got fired. Man, how's that cou

2485
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 4: deon Sanders raised a Pro Bowl quarterback and you think

2486
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 4: of Dion finding the players in Colorado.

2487
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 11: I think it's interesting because I wonder how it's gonna work.

2488
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:13,080
Speaker 11: Like legally does does he have a leg to stand on? Right,

2489
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 11: That's what I was wanting. Like in the NFL, you

2490
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:19,680
Speaker 11: can find players because the CBA says you can find players,

2491
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,400
Speaker 11: and no CBA in college sports, and we ain't getting

2492
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:24,800
Speaker 11: one anytime soon, and so like there's a part of

2493
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 11: me that's like, all right, yeah, you guys are getting

2494
02:13:27,160 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 11: paid and you've never been treated more like pros. And

2495
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 11: so if you're not accountable to a program specific rules,

2496
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 11: let's hit you in the wallet.

2497
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:35,240
Speaker 26: Right.

2498
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 11: In a day and age where we're wondering more and

2499
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 11: more about college athlete accountability, here's how you make them

2500
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 11: more accountable.

2501
02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 26: But like.

2502
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 11: I wonder what the lowest paid guy on his roster is. Sure, yeah,

2503
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 11: the lowest paid guy in his roster a fifteen hundred

2504
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:54,560
Speaker 11: dollars fine for missing treatment is different than the highest

2505
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 11: paid guy in his roster. And you may you obviously

2506
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:01,200
Speaker 11: have that in professional sports, but there's also league minimums

2507
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 11: we don't league minimum in college sports is theoretically zero.

2508
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,640
Speaker 11: But if a player says, no, I'm not paying the fine,

2509
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 11: what are the potential repercussions? What leg does Dion have

2510
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 11: to stand on? I asked that not from a critical standpoint,

2511
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:16,840
Speaker 11: but more from a curiosity standpoint.

2512
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 3: As someone who is open to a conversation about being

2513
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 3: a director of common sense? Would anything have have been

2514
02:14:24,120 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 3: appropriate for you yesterday? Maybe on the sidelines in Denver

2515
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 3: to say, hey, Sean Payton, take the three points, because

2516
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:33,560
Speaker 3: as the director of common sense, that's two scores and

2517
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,080
Speaker 3: we have inclement weather on the way.

2518
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 11: So I don't know if the director of common sense

2519
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:41,320
Speaker 11: will be allowed to have a phone at his or

2520
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:42,080
Speaker 11: her disposal.

2521
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what the rules are.

2522
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:47,000
Speaker 11: A coach can't have a phone, But if I was

2523
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:49,400
Speaker 11: the director of common sense, I would have pulled out

2524
02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:53,280
Speaker 11: a phone, found a weather app, showed it to the coach,

2525
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 11: and said, here's what's coming.

2526
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 4: We got a chance to go up ten. Yeah, let's

2527
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 4: kick that field goal.

2528
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:01,200
Speaker 11: And like I love going forward on fourth ten generally speaking,

2529
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:04,600
Speaker 11: I love coaches who go forward on fourth down. But

2530
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:08,960
Speaker 11: you have to consider a context. The context yesterday was

2531
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 11: you knew the weather was coming. I didn't know that

2532
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:15,280
Speaker 11: the superimposed yard lines were coming. It's one of the

2533
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:16,760
Speaker 11: most bizarre things I've ever seen.

2534
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you.

2535
02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:20,720
Speaker 11: Know the snow is coming, You've got a good defense.

2536
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 11: You're not playing against a great off dude, go up

2537
02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 11: ten points, go up two scores on Drake may make

2538
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:29,959
Speaker 11: them sort of one dimensional. That felt like a baseball

2539
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,600
Speaker 11: game where you know the weather's coming and you want

2540
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 11: to make sure you're winning by the end of the

2541
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 11: fifth inning. Right now, they may call the game in baseball.

2542
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:40,440
Speaker 11: In the NFL, they were not gonna call that game,

2543
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,200
Speaker 11: although some people on social media, I guess, were suggesting

2544
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 11: they should. But man, Sean, look here's what's coming. It's

2545
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 11: not that far away. Let's go up by ten points.

2546
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:52,840
Speaker 11: Put Willie LUTs on the field. Plus those of us

2547
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 11: who had will Lutts over one and a half field

2548
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 11: goals made would have been appreciative.

2549
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 4: They didn't do that well. Man, have a great show.

2550
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:01,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us today, and we'll talk again tomorrow.

2551
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 4: I can't wait. Thanks guys.

2552
02:16:03,800 --> 02:16:07,000
Speaker 3: That is Mullagar. He comes up in just a few moments.

2553
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 3: The Mullegar Show is next right here on ESPN fifteen

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02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:13,600
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02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:57,960
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