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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday morning. Joe Strecker is rolling out the Van Halen.

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Speaker 1: I just let this soak in for a little bit

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Speaker 1: good stuff at five o'clock in the morning. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing this morning? Good morning. I'm Dan Jerrold and

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas, and we are rolling till nine o'clock

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Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, I was thinking about I get to

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Speaker 1: sit here and talk to the great audience that is

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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Been a little while

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Speaker 1: since I've been here, but always glad to be sitting in,

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Speaker 1: especially when Joe Strecker's running the board. And what am

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Speaker 1: I going to talk about today? What am I gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you I've got? And I was thinking today probably

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Speaker 1: going to be a show with a lot of leftovers.

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Speaker 1: And what do I mean by that is I when

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Speaker 1: I when I'm preparing for shows, You when you do this,

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Speaker 1: you overprepare because you never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And when you're staring three or in this case four

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Speaker 1: hours a dead air in the face, you got to

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Speaker 1: have stuff ready to go. So there's I do these

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Speaker 1: winds up making the air, and so I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of that stuff. I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to kind of rely on that. Joe's got lined up

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Speaker 1: a couple of guests for us a little bit later

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Speaker 1: on this morning. Andrew Pappas is going to be here,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to be in the seven o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some local things, probably talk about

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Speaker 1: mostly about the city settlement that is going to go

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Speaker 1: to protesters from the summer of twenty twenty, which I

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Speaker 1: think is just one of the poorest decisions that the

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Speaker 1: city could possibly make. And then citizen watch dog Todd

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Speaker 1: Zenzer will be here in the eight o'clock hour. I've

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Speaker 1: had taught on my shows. I've spoken with him on

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Speaker 1: the phone, I've texted him many times. I have never

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Speaker 1: met him in person. So today he will be here

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Speaker 1: meet him in person. So I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm looking forward to talking with you.

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Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, and

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Speaker 1: I'll have to get the eight hundred number from Joe

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Speaker 1: in a minute. I don't have anything to write it

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Speaker 1: down much. I should have a pencil here, but he

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Speaker 1: Joe put in front of me with the Inquirer has

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Speaker 1: had a look at the at the settlement agreement. I

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Speaker 1: had this yesterday and I haven't had time to read

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Speaker 1: it all. But the Inquirer did did a breakdown of

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Speaker 1: who gets some of the eight point one million dollars

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Speaker 1: in the settlement against Cincinnati and the protesters who will

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Speaker 1: get some of the eight point one million dollars were

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Speaker 1: not charged with felonies or damaging property according to the

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Speaker 1: Racial Justice Protest, and the Racial Justice Protest is that

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it had a name, Joe, did

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Speaker 1: you realize that it had a formal title? The Inquirer

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Speaker 1: calls this the racial Justice Protest in the summer of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Would anyone from the Inquirer care to explain

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Speaker 1: that how are those and what was the racial injustice

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Speaker 1: that was being that was being demonstrated against? I would

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Speaker 1: like to know. In any case, the Inquirer got a

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Speaker 1: hold of the riot settlement. Let's see, let's see, let's

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Speaker 1: see what they get there, who is getting the money

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Speaker 1: and how much the attorneys will get about two million

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Speaker 1: of the eight point one two million out of the

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Speaker 1: where there's another five thousand for expenses. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: that was right now. I have to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at that. According to the city and attorneys for

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Speaker 1: the plainiffs, there were four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs.

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Speaker 1: The settlement names the eleven lead plaintiffs. The plaintiffs get

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Speaker 1: to divvy up five thousand, twenty do I'm sorry, five million,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand, five hundred dollars, which comes out to

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Speaker 1: ten thousand, five hundred per person. Those in the settlement

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Speaker 1: who were detained for a period of more than five

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Speaker 1: hours in association with their arrest could be eligible for

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Speaker 1: up to another two thousand dollars. So let's see, you're

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Speaker 1: for that. It's my way of thinking that comes out

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Speaker 1: to about two hundred bucks an hour. Protesting pays. Well, Joe,

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Speaker 1: you're knocking down two hundred bucks an hour here at

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Speaker 1: the at the station pretty close to that, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: let's see the eleven lead plaintiffs receive an additional five

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars apiece for their role in representing all the plaintiffs.

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Speaker 1: And isn't that just andy? I mean, this just reads

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Speaker 1: like an unbelievable grift. So how how do you? How

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Speaker 1: do you go out and protest, defy a lawful curfew,

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Speaker 1: being a lead plaintiff? And and the I believe the

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Speaker 1: lawsuit was filed a couple of years after the fact.

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Speaker 1: This was twenty twenty. We are now approaching twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: So all these years later, you're the You're the lead

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Speaker 1: plain if I'm the lead guy, and I'm getting an

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Speaker 1: extra five grand because because of what? Because of your

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Speaker 1: according to the inquirer, their role in representing all the

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Speaker 1: all the plaintiffs. How are they represented? What? What do you?

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Speaker 1: I mean? It's such a joke just on the face

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Speaker 1: Let's see the plaintiffs. So, okay, the planeffs are going

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Speaker 1: to divvy up five million dollars five thousand apiece for

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Speaker 1: those for the leadership role that the eleven lead planis

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Speaker 1: had an additional three hundred thousand be sent aside for

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Speaker 1: planets who submit claims for uncompensated injury during the arrest.

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Speaker 1: So the arrest was made in twenty twenty. This is

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, going on twenty twenty six. If you

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Speaker 1: if you haven't discovered your uncompensated injury by now, when

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Speaker 1: will that happen? But there's three hundred grand out there

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Speaker 1: for the taking, So I suspect those individuals are meeting

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Speaker 1: with attorneys and medical professionals, professionals as we speak, to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get their fingers in that pie.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into more of some of this breakdown

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Speaker 1: million dollar settlement. It's five point fifteen. We got to

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Speaker 1: get to a little bit of a break Dan Carroll

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Speaker 1: and for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV toald On

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Speaker 1: once a second. It is twenty one at fifty five KRCV.

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Speaker 1: He talks to I remember when I was on the air.

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Speaker 1: It was earlier this year. I want to say it

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Speaker 1: was a couple of months ago, a couple three months ago,

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Speaker 1: and the news came that the guy who wrote this

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Speaker 1: song had passed away. Joe, did you know that the

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Speaker 1: guy who wrote this song for Golden Earring he passed away?

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, one of the greatest rock songs of

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Speaker 1: all time. If he asked me a little Radar love?

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Speaker 1: And the name of that guy escapes me at the moment. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I I don't remember that. I don't remember the dude's name.

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Speaker 1: But still it's a great song, Radar Love. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's see, we're talking about the the what the Inquirer

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Speaker 1: put out about the settlement. Let's see, the four hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy nine planeufs in the lawsuit were charged with

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Speaker 1: misconduct at an emergency, a misdemeanor related to violating the

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Speaker 1: city's curfew, said Jacqueline Green, an attorney for the planeoffs.

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Speaker 1: The full settlement agreement attained by the Inquirer doesn't include

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Speaker 1: the exhibits that list all of the beneficiaries. The Inquirer

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Speaker 1: has requested a full list of people receiving money from

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Speaker 1: the city, and I would I would think that there

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Speaker 1: should be a full list. You're gonna get money from

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Speaker 1: the city, we should know where that money is going,

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Speaker 1: should we not? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: the city eventually dismissed the charges related to the curfew.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know, it wasn't enough that these

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Speaker 1: individuals went out there and there was damage done the

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Speaker 1: first couple of nights of the of the protests, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, the mayor put the curfew in place.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't enough that they you get, you get arrested

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Speaker 1: for violating the curfew. H But now you have to

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Speaker 1: go and sue after your case was dropped and you

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Speaker 1: you wound up facing no charges whatsoever. You know, why

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Speaker 1: can't why can't you just take a deep breath after

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Speaker 1: that and say, man, dodge the bullet on that one.

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Speaker 1: No charges or the case has been dismissed. I had

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Speaker 1: some charges, got arrested, okay, but not gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do any time, not gonna pay a fine. Everything gets

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Speaker 1: kind of washed away. Why can't that be good enough? No,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go find some lawyers that will

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Speaker 1: take the case, get some money out of It's it's

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Speaker 1: never enough. And again, although the way this this whole

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Speaker 1: of this, does it?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: Am I read? Am I wrong? Am I? Reading this wrong,

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Speaker 1: am I is my view on this so out of place?

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Speaker 1: But I see all this money that's gonna be doled

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Speaker 1: out city bending over backwards, there's gonna be there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be new police training. I was. I was scrolling through

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Speaker 1: this during the break, trying to get to the part

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Speaker 1: where where they talk about the police training that's going

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Speaker 1: these new these new guidelines for police. No, I've got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good idea that our police know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Our police have a pretty good idea of how to

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Speaker 1: handle these these these malcontents. But no, no, not good.

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Speaker 1: You know, our city manager and Iris Rolie, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have they have more training for our Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know, Maybe maybe we can just maybe

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Speaker 1: and just maybe give what do you think about this, Joe,

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Speaker 1: Maybe when we when police go out there to calm

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Speaker 1: you please go home? Now? Here's here's five or six

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks for your trouble. Would that work? Will that'd

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Speaker 1: be just you know, maybe we can save the attorney's fees,

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Speaker 1: save the idea, just just cut cut the legal process out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe we need to have a big pot

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Speaker 1: of money and and and you know, schedule our protests

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Speaker 1: the railroad money. Take some of that railroad money and

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Speaker 1: just have a giant stack of it somewhere at city

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Speaker 1: Hall or maybe at police headquarters that we've got a

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Speaker 1: protest tonight. All the cops on second shifts, come on,

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Speaker 1: come on in. Well you got we got your sack

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Speaker 1: full of you know, each one of you is going

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Speaker 1: to have about ten grand, and see if you can

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Speaker 1: see if you can talk him into accepting you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, three four hundred bucks apiece to go away.

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Speaker 1: Take your money, now, go away, Maybe we'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Let's cut cut al Gerhardstein out of the process.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he wouldn't he wouldn't like that one bit,

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Speaker 1: ah man, But there's a council committee. What do let

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Speaker 1: me see, I had a Fox nineteen story.

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Speaker 3: On this.

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Speaker 1: Talks They named that council. It's it's I think it's

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Speaker 1: the council that used to be a law in public safety.

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Speaker 1: But they have a meeting today and they are going

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Speaker 1: to the council committee is going to either say yay

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Speaker 1: or nay on this settlement. Oh yeah, that Joe says

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Speaker 1: nay is out of the question. But I would strongly

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Speaker 1: encourage any members of council who may be listening right

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Speaker 1: now to I say no, be bold, stand up and

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Speaker 1: say we will see you in court. Take it to court.

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Speaker 1: Take it to court. We lose in court, I think

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Speaker 1: I I in may Cobb wind up costing more money,

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Speaker 1: but I think I'd be better off with that. Look,

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Speaker 1: And according to the settlement, you know, those really bad

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Speaker 1: So how many of those people are there? How many

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Speaker 1: I don't know why Kathleen Burbridge gets an exemption here.

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Speaker 1: if I'm buying into that. Jay, what's going on today?

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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning. I think that I think your idea

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Speaker 4: what we probably ought to do is have somebody with

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Speaker 4: is going to have to outbid George Soros and she

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Speaker 4: maybe like fifty seven percent to facilitate this.

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Speaker 1: I always not going to do anything unless unless she's

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Speaker 4: Well well correct, but I mean it's just it's just

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Speaker 4: I think she's highly qualified, maybe uniquely qualified, and with

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Speaker 4: we are going to burn your place down, which is odd.

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Speaker 4: Whenever you have a communists on communist violence, that is

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Speaker 4: that's unfortunate, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was left.

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Speaker 4: Bluetown gets hard gets attacked by hard left protesters.

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Speaker 1: The day I learned of this settlement, I was talking

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Speaker 1: was suggested to me that many of these people who

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Speaker 1: this is a nice double dip for them. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how much you get

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Speaker 1: for your role in representing the other planets, you get

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Speaker 1: an additional five grand. It's it's like the Wheel of fortune.

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Speaker 1: It's better the wheel.

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Speaker 5: I think it's like the right days of the mafia.

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Speaker 4: It's the glory days of the mafia.

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Speaker 5: May's high tech.

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Speaker 4: It's extortion money. We're just going to pay quote protection money.

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Speaker 4: If the town can get their wallets out and pay

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Speaker 4: these protesters more than the Soros is paying them, well

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Speaker 4: then they'll go away.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't this sent me? Does it send a message?

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Speaker 1: Does it send a message to people who want to

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Speaker 1: But when things warm up a little bit, let's get

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Speaker 4: Well, what is the con there's a comment about with government,

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Speaker 4: whatever you subsidize, you're going to get more of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think whatever subsize you get more of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's fact. Jay. I appreciate the call this morning.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff man, there you go. I appreciate jb in there.

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Speaker 1: Got to get to a break five thirty six, five, one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. During the protests in late Man and early

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Speaker 1: certain events did take place that devolved into vandalism, such

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Speaker 1: The Hamilton County Justice Center had windows broken out, American

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really takes the wind out, at least

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Speaker 1: what say you this morning?

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Speaker 6: Well, I just wanted to say good morning. And I'm

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Speaker 6: wondering if you ever wondering if you ever go to sleep.

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Speaker 6: I hope they pay you by the.

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Speaker 1: R No I got, I got, I got some sleep

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Two questions Number one, does the City of Cincinnati have

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Speaker 6: and then where what they do with their money? And

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Speaker 6: then question number two is, you know, I'm thinking I

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Speaker 6: But I need some things. I need to know if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm scrolling time. I'm just I'm scrolling through the

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Speaker 6: You know, maybe you need to do more research because

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Speaker 6: I'm not coming back up there until it gets a

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Speaker 6: I may be, I may be easy, but I'm not cheap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The you know, look, the demonstrators, the protesters, they're

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Speaker 1: they're pretty dedicated as long as it's you know, the

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Speaker 6: that's my protest. Other than that, stay warm, old Bud.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, Well do what we can. Brother, appreciate the phone

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Speaker 1: work by the Inquirer breaking all this down. Let me

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Speaker 1: it really it shouldn't sit well with anyone. Five forty

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Speaker 1: twenty five weeks of station Man Joe Strecker's rocking out

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Speaker 1: this morning, Little Detroit rock City. Good stuff right there,

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Speaker 1: I remember the un Maybe I tell this maybe I

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Speaker 1: tell this story every time you play this song. But

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Speaker 1: this one, that was the first song that I ever

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Speaker 1: heard by Kiss. Buddy of mine who lived down the street,

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Speaker 1: had just got a brand new Gto convertible, and I

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Speaker 1: mean that it was. Man, that was a very slick,

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Speaker 1: a very cool looking car. And I think I was

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Speaker 1: I don't know, thirteen, maybe fourteen at the time, and

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Speaker 1: he says, oh, man, let's take it out for a ride.

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Speaker 1: So he put the convertible down and he says, you

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Speaker 1: ever heard a Kiss? I said no, and he slapped

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Speaker 1: that eight track in there and this song came on.

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I have never heard anything like

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Speaker 1: that before. Good stuff, Detroit Rock City. What a great song. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky heard my side. I joonases sound like I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that guy's name, right, Travinsky. Yeah, the he was

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Speaker 1: in court yesterday and he, of course he of the

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Speaker 1: the brawl that happened in downtown Cincinnati. See, that was

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Speaker 1: one of the things I was talking about the other

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Speaker 1: See when when this happened, When this beatdown happened on

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Speaker 1: the streets of Cincinnati, what was it Back in July

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Speaker 1: we were in Cincinnati was on the national news every morning,

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Speaker 1: every night, every day for days weeks on it. I

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Speaker 1: remember doing radio shows and not in this studio because

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Speaker 1: there's TVs. Don't work in this studio. Although there's five

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Speaker 1: beautiful big screen TVs in here, not on one of

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Speaker 1: them shows anything that you can watch on TV. But

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Speaker 1: in any case, I was inside the other studio down

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Speaker 1: the hall, and I'm doing the radio show. And that

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Speaker 1: was a great topic of discussion, the beatdown in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many times I've got

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Speaker 1: Fox News on there on one I got CNN on

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Speaker 1: the other one, and up there's the video again. I

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Speaker 1: mean it played again and again and again. And so

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati made the national news for that. But the one

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Speaker 1: thing we didn't make the national news for was what

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Speaker 1: the George Floyd ryants. And why didn't we make the

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Speaker 1: national news because we shut it down. The professionals who

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Speaker 1: were in charge of the city back then said, nah,

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Speaker 1: bah bah nah, we are not going to let this happen.

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Speaker 1: We are shutting it down. And if the mayor had

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Speaker 1: to step up and put a curfew in place, that

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Speaker 1: was it used the tools at his disposal to shut

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Speaker 1: it down, and God blessed John Cranley for what he did.

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Speaker 1: And this this notion that we are going to pay

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Speaker 1: these people eight million dollars just it. It's a slap

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Speaker 1: in the face. But Travinsky, who's accused of slapping another

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Speaker 1: person during the downtown brawl, that trial has been postponed

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Speaker 1: now to January twelfth due to the introduction of what

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Speaker 1: defense attorney Douglas Brandon called a surprise witness by the prosecution.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that much, and this article doesn't

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Speaker 1: really get into who the surprise witness might be, but

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Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine, Joe. We've seen pretty much a

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Speaker 1: lot of the video that's associated with that. We saw

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Speaker 1: the video that came from the street camp. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. There are cameras all over downtown Cincinnati. They

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Speaker 1: did most just about every square block of downtown Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: is monitored or can be monitored by the command center

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Speaker 1: where they've got they've got the I don't know what

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Speaker 1: they call it, but it's the riot respond not the

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Speaker 1: riot response, but they've got the response team watching all that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we knew the videos were out there, but I think

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Speaker 1: we've pretty much seen all the video on this, but

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Speaker 1: the surprise witness has come up, so we'll that trial

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Speaker 1: is going to be delayed till January, so we don't

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Speaker 1: get to have fun with that until January, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. I got to get to a break

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Speaker 1: news coming up top of the hour, and then we

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Speaker 1: will carry on until nine. This morning, Dan Carroll in

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV Talk station.

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Speaker 5: Today's top headlines coming up.

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Speaker 1: At the CD talk station six o five on this

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Good morning, just getting up, got your radio

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Speaker 1: tune of fifty five KRCV Talk station. I'm Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas taking the day off. Brian back tomorrow, Joe,

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Speaker 1: Brian is back tomorrow, So only want one more day

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Speaker 1: without Brian Thomas, and always my pleasure to sit in.

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker is the executive producer running the big board

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Speaker 1: there in the command center. So when you call in,

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Speaker 1: make sure you say hello to Joe and he might

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Speaker 1: he might let you on the air. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five Reagan National Defense Survey is out, a national public

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Speaker 1: opinion poll that measures how we the American people understand

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Speaker 1: key defense and national security issues and always some interesting

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Speaker 1: findings in this as if you need a survey to

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Speaker 1: tell you the obvious. The mood of the country, and

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Speaker 1: Alan Pfeiffer wrote a piece on this an American thinker.

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Speaker 1: The mood of the country remained circumspect, with only thirty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of Americans believing that we are on the

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Speaker 1: right track versus fifty eight percent who feel that we

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Speaker 1: are on the wrong track. This is buttressed by the

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Speaker 1: fact that about fifty percent believe our foreign policy and

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Speaker 1: national defense are effective. Seventy five percent don't think that

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Speaker 1: we're on the right track with our economy the single

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Speaker 1: highest number of interests. Other areas are concerned for most

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Speaker 1: people include healthcare, political polarization, border and crime. Seventy seven

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Speaker 1: percent of US have confidence in the military. Forty four

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Speaker 1: percent have confidence in President Trump. I think these numbers,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are the numbers from the survey. I

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Speaker 1: would think that that more people right now would believe

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Speaker 1: that the country is on the right track. Thirty eight

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Speaker 1: seems like a little bit of a low number to me,

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Speaker 1: and fifty eight percent think we're on the wrong track. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's always going to be, you know, be people who

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Speaker 1: hate Trump that will say the country is on the

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Speaker 1: wrong track no matter what. So there's always going to

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Speaker 1: be a baseline number there. But do you does fifty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of this audience. I feel like the country

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Speaker 1: is on the wrong track right now. I don't know, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: what's going on this morning? Dan?

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Speaker 7: A special thank you can't express our true feelings or

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Speaker 7: appreciation you carrying that torture freedom every day.

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Speaker 1: Hey, brother, we do what we can. We do what

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Speaker 1: we can we and we appreciate, we appreciate you and

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Speaker 1: those like you who are such loyal listeners to this program.

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Speaker 7: I tell you what, Porkopolis, They just keep feeding the pig.

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Speaker 1: Don't they. I I the more I read about this settlement,

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Speaker 1: the more I just don't know. How do you how

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Speaker 1: do you draw uh any other conclusion other than we

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Speaker 1: are inviting more of this in the future. How do

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Speaker 1: you do that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 7: I see it's greed and gratuities. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 7: to they've gott to spread the money around and take the.

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Speaker 5: Attention all things. You know.

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Speaker 7: It's my opinion, and I think we've discussed it. Take

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Speaker 7: it to court. Take it to court, That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Decide, Take it to court. Please stand up, spend, spend

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Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars taking it to court. I

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Speaker 1: think I think that a jury would look at this

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Speaker 1: and say, no, we are not, we are not. These

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Speaker 1: people are not in line because they had to spend

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Speaker 1: the night waiting to get processed into the justice center.

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Speaker 1: And then these claims about not having access to to

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Speaker 1: bathrooms or not having a blanky, or not getting a

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Speaker 1: bottle of water. I think those claims can be disputed

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 7: It was all legal and it's nothing now but appeasement

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Speaker 7: that we need to take it to court. Go ahead

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Speaker 7: and don't rubber stamp it. But yeah, we know what

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Speaker 7: the counts was going to do. Rubber stamp it.

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Speaker 1: What what does history say about appeasement?

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Speaker 5: That's exactly correct it.

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Speaker 7: Cisco will come back and bites you in the backside.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, thanks for the phone call, brother, Thank you. You

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Speaker 1: have the great work man.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I love that guy. Let's see, seventy seven percent of

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Speaker 1: us have confidence in the military, forty four percent in

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Speaker 1: President Trump, thirty percent have confidence in Congress. Joe, I

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Speaker 1: think that number is a little bit high. Do you

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Speaker 1: think thirty percent of the American people have great confidence

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Speaker 1: in Congress, Joseph is three times, do you h, I'm

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Speaker 1: not yeah, I'm not sure if that that number is accurate.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, uh, forty seven percent have confidence in our

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I would say that is that seems about right.

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Speaker 1: Probably should be a little bit lower. Here's a number

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Speaker 1: that's way off. Listen to this, Joe, forty two percent

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Speaker 1: of the American people in the Reagant National Defense Survey,

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Speaker 1: forty two percent have confidence in the news media. That

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Speaker 1: number is way too high. I'm looking. I don't see

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Speaker 1: a dicimale point. Yeah, four point two percent would be

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Speaker 1: I think it would be more accurate. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: have to look at the methodology on this. Forty forty

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Speaker 1: two percent that that number, if that number is accurate,

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely stunning that forty two percent of the

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Speaker 1: American people. Because I know I've talked about a different surveys,

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Speaker 1: it be done. I talked to Curtis Hawk from NewsBusters

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Speaker 1: all the time, and there is no way that forty

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Speaker 1: two percent of the American people have confidence in our

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Speaker 1: news media. I just I don't know how that's true.

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Speaker 1: Seventy one percent of Americans have confidence in our police,

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Speaker 1: So I think That is a good number. I wish

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Speaker 1: that number was a little bit higher. Eighty one percent

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Speaker 1: of the American people believe that our military will keep

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Speaker 1: us safe. That's a pretty good number. I think that

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Speaker 1: could be a little bit higher. Seventy eight percent think

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Speaker 1: that we can win a foreign war. I certainly hope

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Speaker 1: we don't have a foreign war, but the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of American people think that we can win a war.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time we won a war. The American

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Speaker 1: public is less concerned about DEI in the military. Only

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent believe it is a significant problem. Well,

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Speaker 1: DEI in the military, that day has come and gone,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's about time. So it will no longer

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Speaker 1: be an issue under the auspices of Pete hag Seth

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. So DEI in the military, that's a

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Speaker 1: that soon that will not even be a subject for discussion.

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Speaker 1: But then, of course, if you get a Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: and I saw was it yesterday? I guess it was

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Speaker 1: yesterday that I get.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: The polling, of course, is being done for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: eight and right now Gavin Newsom is the considered to

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Speaker 1: be the front runner on the Democrat side. Of things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how how sick is that? How disgusting is that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, say elimination of DEI from the military is

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Speaker 1: a good idea. Well, there's a lot of uninformed people

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Speaker 1: out there. One you know, I'll say the number should

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Speaker 1: be closer to one hundred percent. That's a elimination of

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Speaker 1: DEI from the military is a good thing of American

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Speaker 1: support restoring the warrior ethos to our military, which I

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Speaker 1: know is one of the main topics that Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 1: talks about all the time, restoring that warrior ethos. Sixty

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Speaker 1: one percent agree with sending troops to the border to

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Speaker 1: deter illegal immigration, fifty support sending the guard to crime

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Speaker 1: ridden cities to store order in safety. That is a

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Speaker 1: that that is a little bit of a gray area

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Speaker 1: for me. I have asked different people that I've talked to,

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Speaker 1: with varying degrees of legal expertise, how solid of constitutional

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Speaker 1: footing that Trump is on when he does that, and

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Speaker 1: those opinions very greatly so. Not sure I'm part of

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Speaker 1: that fifty five percent six fifteen Dan Carroll and for

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas fifty five KRC the talk station from the

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Speaker 1: recent Reagan survey, the Reagan National Defense Survey. They call

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Speaker 1: it Reagan National Defense Survey. And let's see where do

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Speaker 1: we leave off that fifty five percent support sending the

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Speaker 1: Guard to crime ridden areas to restore order in safety.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been working though in the city's where

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Speaker 1: it's been tried. I think the man the crime rate

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, the murder rate has come way down. I

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Speaker 1: remember when the debate was going on a week or

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Speaker 1: so ago about DC, after the Guard troops got shot there.

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Speaker 1: The one was killed, the other one still fighting for

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Speaker 1: his life. People were talking about people who who work

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Speaker 1: in DC talk about walking around the city all the time.

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Speaker 1: What a difference that it has made for for them

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Speaker 1: pretty good thing. Again, the constitutionality of that needs to

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Speaker 1: be adhered to. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Sixty

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Speaker 1: two of US are in favor of continuing to strike

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Speaker 1: drug traffickers in South America and the Caribbean. Blow those

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Speaker 1: boats out of the water. There's a big debate now

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Speaker 1: about whether to release the video of the strike. That

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Speaker 1: it was in question right with the survivors, whether or

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Speaker 1: not they were according to a bunch of Democrats who

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Speaker 1: looked at the video, oh, they were signaling for help.

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Speaker 1: They were, Oh, we're we're in the water. We need

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Speaker 1: waving at the own to come rescue us. Now the

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Speaker 1: Tom Cotton Trump heg Seth says, no, they were still

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Speaker 1: in the fight. They were trying to get back on

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Speaker 1: what was left of their vessel, radio other boats in

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Speaker 1: the area radio for help. Continue to on with their mission.

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Speaker 1: So the next strike occurred, and there's some debate now

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Speaker 1: about whether or not that I release let it out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on. Joe, how do you feel

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Speaker 1: about that? Should we let that video out? Let it out,

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Speaker 1: put it out there. Trump said the other day he'll

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Speaker 1: leave it up to Hegseth about whether or not he

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Speaker 1: puts it out there. So I'm fine with that. Put

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Speaker 1: it out there and let the chips fall with. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's all that stuff. Thank god. I'm so glad we're

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Speaker 1: not talking about the Epstein stuff anymore. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Epstein stuff, the people who are guilty, the

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Speaker 1: people who who abuse these girls, they need to be

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Speaker 1: brought to justice. They need to be held accountable for

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Speaker 1: their actions. I don't care who they are. And if

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Speaker 1: the paperwork that they have, the files, the black books, whatever,

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Speaker 1: the video, if there's videos, if that puts the finger

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Speaker 1: on someone guilty as committing these crimes, then let justice

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Speaker 1: take a course. Why is that so difficult? So let

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Speaker 1: let the videos come out and let's just see what

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Speaker 1: the heck is going on. What else do we have?

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Speaker 1: Let's see the drug traffickers. There we go. Fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: percent of the American people reject trans people in the military.

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Speaker 1: I think that number ought to be a little bit higher.

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Speaker 1: And there was so much, so much information coming out

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Speaker 1: on this though. The one thing that I think more

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Speaker 1: than anything else when you talk about individuals who want

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Speaker 1: to transition while they're in the military, was the piece

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Speaker 1: that I read that if if you're in the you know,

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Speaker 1: with the army, for example, and you are transitioning and

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Speaker 1: you are beginning your transition process, and you are you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've had your first surgery. Let's say your unit

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Speaker 1: gets called up to active duty and you have to

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Speaker 1: your unit was going to be in harm's way. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're in the beginning of your trans your trans process,

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Speaker 1: then you don't have to go. No, you look, you're

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Speaker 1: in a delicate state having the surgery, becoming a a

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Speaker 1: man to a woman or a woman to a man. No,

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Speaker 1: you're you're, you're, you're. Fellow soldiers get to go it

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Speaker 1: out and be at harms way, but you sit back.

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Speaker 1: You just you rest and recuperate. Catch up with them

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Speaker 1: in about a year. I remember when I read that,

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Speaker 1: I was just incensed by that. That's just one of

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Speaker 1: the policies that needed to be done away with. Six

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Speaker 1: twenty five. We got to get to a break. Dan

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Speaker 1: Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV Talk Stations,

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Speaker 1: Prestige Interiors has been proving the way five KRC the

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Speaker 1: Talk Station fifty five KRC the Talk Station five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: talk taking a look at the results of the Reagan

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Speaker 1: National Defense survey and all kinds of good stuff in here.

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Speaker 1: A lot of conversation starters. I like this piece a lot.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see, let's see fifty rejecting trans people

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Speaker 1: in the military. We talked, We touched on that one.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two percent of Americans believe that standards for men

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Speaker 1: and women should be equal and not reduced for the

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Speaker 1: primary purpose of advancing women. Sixty two percent. I think

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Speaker 1: that number ought to be a little bit higher. No,

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Speaker 1: the standards should not be reduced. If you're a woman,

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Speaker 1: and and can we Joe, have we advanced the state

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Speaker 1: yet to where we can we can all agree, we

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Speaker 1: can stipulate that men and women are different. Have have

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Speaker 1: we advanced that far yet in our conversation? You sound

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Speaker 1: a little iffy on that. Yeah, Now for the purposes

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Speaker 1: of my conversation, Yes, men and women are different. Men

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Speaker 1: and women are not the same. You want to argue

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Speaker 1: with me on that, you're more than welcome to call it.

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Speaker 1: But no, the standards for men and women should not

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Speaker 1: be changed or reduced just for the primary purpose of

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Speaker 1: women being able to advance in the military. And I

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Speaker 1: don't really know how much of advancing in the military

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Speaker 1: is based on a woman being able to perform physically

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Speaker 1: the same as a man. Let's see, fifty nine percent

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Speaker 1: of us would encourage someone we love or care about

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Speaker 1: to join the military. I know I have done it

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Speaker 1: in my life. I have encouraged others to join the military.

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Speaker 1: I joined the military myself when I was younger. All

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Speaker 1: these important metrics are noticeably higher since President Trump was elected.

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Speaker 1: So I think some of those numbers could be a

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Speaker 1: lot higher, especially the right track wrong track. I would

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Speaker 1: think that way more than thirty eight percent of Americans

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Speaker 1: believe that we're on the right track. The Mega movement

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Speaker 1: preaches America first and no foreign entanglements. Our president has

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Speaker 1: threaded a needle on this and is using different levers

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Speaker 1: of power that previous leaders, using the levers of power

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Speaker 1: more than previous leaders to accomplish were the international goals.

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Speaker 1: But there's a limit to how hands off we can

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Speaker 1: be while protecting our national interest. Yeah. So I would

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Speaker 1: think most of us agree that. And this whole idea

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Speaker 1: that Trump is an isolationist I think has been completely

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Speaker 1: wrong from the very beginning. I think, really all you

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Speaker 1: have to do is look at his policies, look at

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Speaker 1: how he's negotiated the end to different conflicts around the globe.

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Speaker 1: That is, to my way of thinking, the exact opposite

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Speaker 1: of being a globalist. I'm sorry, the exact opposite of

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Speaker 1: being an isolationist. But I think we're engaging with And

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Speaker 1: I had a guest on the radio show I was

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Speaker 1: doing yesterday that the Trump doctrine is based on finding

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Speaker 1: peace because peace is good for business. Trump is a businessman.

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Speaker 1: He is a business person, and he knows that war

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Speaker 1: is bad for business. Now, there are some sectors of

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Speaker 1: the economy the war is obviously good for, But in

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Speaker 1: a larger sense, by and large, peace and prosperity go together,

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Speaker 1: and there can be far more prosperity when you are

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Speaker 1: conducting peace or conducting business under peaceful circumstances, then and

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Speaker 1: then circumstances that are not peaceful. I think that is

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Speaker 1: a basic philosophy of Trump, and I think it really

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Speaker 1: has a lot to do with what the Trump doctrine

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Speaker 1: is when it comes to dealing with other countries because

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Speaker 1: every piece and the guest I had on yesterday was

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Speaker 1: really terrific, and we were talking about every piece negotiation

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Speaker 1: that Trump has inserted himself into. There is always an

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Speaker 1: economic component, and the economic component is really the main

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Speaker 1: component of these different peace agreements. And Trump has gone

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Speaker 1: in and found ways to craft win win situations for

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Speaker 1: all the parties involved. Get a little win for the

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Speaker 1: United States, get a little win for whatever nation that

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Speaker 1: he is dealing with on both sides of the conflict.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where the real genie is. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course, Joe, how often do you guys talk about

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Speaker 1: the view on this show? I mean, what what a

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Speaker 1: bunch of idiots they are, Sonny Houston and look, I

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Speaker 1: gotta get to a break. I'll talk about this on

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Speaker 1: the other side. But hey, I was I normally don't

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Speaker 1: talk about the view, but Sonny Hostin is such an

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Speaker 1: just an imbeciling idiot. And then she was ranting yesterday

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Speaker 1: about Trump and the Nobel Peace Prize. Mean, what a

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Speaker 1: moron she is. And all, I mean, all this stuff

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Speaker 1: about the you know, from the Reagan National Defense Survey

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Speaker 1: is just jogging all this stuff in my mind. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Five point three, five hundred MIC is on the line.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to this call on the other side of this.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five KRCD Talk station. Hey,

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Speaker 1: good morning. You're heading the airport right.

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Speaker 1: He talked station a great rock and Roll continues to

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Speaker 1: roll out. Joe Strucker getting it done, Dan Carroll and

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas. This morning, fifty five k r C

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Speaker 1: the talk station talking about the takeaways from the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five National Defense Survey, the Reagan National Defense Survey,

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Speaker 1: annual public opinion poll that measures America's feelings about key

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Speaker 1: defense and national security issues and the whole The notion

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Speaker 1: of foreign entanglements came up. And I saw a clip

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Speaker 1: daily basis. These women on the View are saying something

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Speaker 1: so idiotic, so stupid that it it turns out to

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Speaker 1: I need to challenge myself more than that I could.

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Speaker 1: I could play a clip of the View almost every

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Speaker 1: single day and just say, listen to how stupid this this?

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Speaker 1: But what's the challenge in that? There's really not a

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Speaker 1: challenge in that, because they do it every single day.

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Speaker 1: And so I saw a clip yesterday of Sonny hostin

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Speaker 1: and they were talking about Trump. They got on the

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Speaker 1: subject of Trump, and he did the the drawing for

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Speaker 1: the soccer tournament, the World I guess the World Cup,

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Speaker 1: soccer tournament it's coming to America. And Joe, are you

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Speaker 1: into that at all? The FIFA the World Cup. So

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Speaker 1: the FIFA, the the the organization that uh I you know,

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Speaker 1: their auspices, they created a World Peace Prize and they

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Speaker 1: gave it to Trump for helping to bring peace around

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Speaker 1: the world. And so Sonny Hostin was belittling this, talking

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Speaker 1: about how, of course the great Barack Hussein Obama got

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Speaker 1: a Nobel Peace Prize, but Trump, the chump, only got

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Speaker 1: this little dinky piece prize from FISA or from FIFA.

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Speaker 1: And then she goes on to say about how I

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Speaker 1: you know, he really just really hasn't you know when

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Speaker 1: I would ask Sonny host In this and did did

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Speaker 1: Barack Houssein Obama do anything worthy or equal to the

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Speaker 1: Abraham Accords, the most significant diplomatic achievement normalizing relations between

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Speaker 1: Israel and the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: the Abraham Acquad Did Barrack Houssein ever do anything along

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Speaker 1: those lines? And then the list of the peace agreements

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Speaker 1: and ceasefire agreements that Trump has worked on Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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Speaker 1: They actually started doing this back in October of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: More formal agreement was reached in August of twenty five

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Speaker 1: Democrat Republic of the Congo and Rwanda Peace Agreement there

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Speaker 1: bringing an end to a long running conflict, focusing on

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Speaker 1: regional stability and access to critical minerals. So there's the

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Speaker 1: economic part, the economic development prosperity part of that agreement.

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Speaker 1: Indian Pakistan seasfire ending a escalation intensions between these two

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Speaker 1: nuclear powers. Cambodia and Thailand ceasefire agreement July of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. This followed a few days of deadly border clashes.

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Speaker 1: Trump threatened to stall some trade deals that were in

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Speaker 1: the works. Said, look, you know, you guys want to

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Speaker 1: have trade, you want to have prosperity, you want to

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Speaker 1: have the stuff going on. Stop fighting, And they did.

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Speaker 1: Israel and Iran ceasefire. Twelve day war between Israel and

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Speaker 1: Iran ended in June of twenty twenty five. Sonny Austin

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Speaker 1: though she knows, she knows that Trump is not worthy

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Speaker 1: of a Nobel Peace Prize, and now all her viewers

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Speaker 1: on the view know that as well. Mike, what's going

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Speaker 1: on this morning?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, I've thought about the transgenders in the military. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you're talking about transitioning while they're there. First of all,

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Speaker 8: American tax dollars should be paying for that.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 8: And also it's a non essential voluntary surgery. You can

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Speaker 8: do that when you get out.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 8: Because somebody who wanted to get them, say some upper

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Speaker 8: general thought he wanted to get a facelift, he'd have

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Speaker 8: to pay for that out of his own pocket. They're

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Speaker 8: not gonna and said he was. He's like, I'm getting

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Speaker 8: held up back out there on the battlefield. They wouldn't

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Speaker 8: let him.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Well, I can't. I can't tell you how many

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Speaker 1: videos I saw of individuals in uniform who, once Trump

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Speaker 1: got elected, were all bent out of shape because they

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Speaker 1: knew that he was going to end all this nonsense

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Speaker 1: with the people transitioning in the military, and they and

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Speaker 1: they and they've flat outset the reason they joined the

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Speaker 1: military was so they could get their transition shows transition

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Speaker 1: I can't even say it transition surgery. Try saying that

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Speaker 1: three times fans that But there were there, there were

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Speaker 1: far too many people who were more concerned about that

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Speaker 1: than doing the job that they are required to do

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Speaker 1: when they're in uniform. So Pete Hesath is right to

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Speaker 1: look at all that and say we don't need that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff in the military. Get it out of there.

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Speaker 1: Six forty six, Dan Carrell for Brian Thomas, fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRCV Talk Station. Not every Chimney system is the same

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Speaker 1: at the Chimney careten fifty five KRC the Talk Station,

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, Joe Struker rolling out

908
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Speaker 1: all his favorite hits for the Bumper music this morning.

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Speaker 1: I love it, long Ago Classics, eazy Top. We'll let

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Speaker 1: it get to that good part here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Gotta love this. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred. That's the number to call if you want

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Speaker 1: to get on board. Talking about the the Reagan National

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Speaker 1: Defense Survey. Uh, they are all kinds of interesting findings

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Speaker 1: in all kinds let's see two thirds. Sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: of Americans believe we should have strict limits on advanced

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Speaker 1: AI chip sales to China. AI chip sales to China.

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Speaker 1: Isn't China making their own AI chips? I would think

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Speaker 1: they are. Why do we need to sell chips to China?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's a good thing. But when

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Speaker 1: it comes to selling stuff to China or giving anything

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Speaker 1: in China, you're not giving I was selling? Uh Nearly

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Speaker 1: nine in ten, eighty eight percent of Americans believe the

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Speaker 1: United States needs greater manufacturing capacity and when especially when

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Speaker 1: it comes to ship building, which is a good idea

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Speaker 1: better ship building. China is just smoking us when it

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Speaker 1: comes to building ships that see a strong majority. Sixty

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Speaker 1: two percent want Ukraine to prevail and it's war with Russia.

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Speaker 1: Sixty four percent support sending US weapons. That is up

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Speaker 1: nine points from last year with bipartisan gains. Fifty nine

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Speaker 1: percent of Republicans seventy five percent of Democrats. Sixty two

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Speaker 1: percent support using military force against suspected drug traffickers. I

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Speaker 1: think I touched on that one already. NATO favorability has

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Speaker 1: reached its highest level ever sixty eight percent have strong

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Speaker 1: bipartisan support for Article five commitments, and of course that

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Speaker 1: means if a NATO ally is attacked, then we all respond.

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Speaker 1: All the NATO allies are obligated to respond to that.

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Speaker 1: What else do we have? What else do we have?

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Speaker 1: Believe that the military should be able to fight two

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Speaker 1: peer enemies simultaneously. We've not had that capability for a

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Speaker 1: generation or for a generation, which might lead them to

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Speaker 1: think that our leadership has been derelict in its primary

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Speaker 1: mission of protecting America. Sixty eight percent believe that we

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Speaker 1: are at risk and support the Golden Dome concept recently

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Speaker 1: unveiled by President Trump. So a lot of interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then this goes on for about another four or

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Speaker 1: five paragraphs, this piece, with all the all the findings

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Speaker 1: in here. Uh, let's see top threat to America. Let's

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Speaker 1: see China. Is that forty eight rush is a twenty

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Speaker 1: six per tent as the top threats to the country.

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Speaker 1: Two percent, though, thought Israel was the top threat to America.

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Speaker 1: I think some of those people call this radio station

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Speaker 1: on a regular base. And three percent say that we

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Speaker 1: are our own worst threat. And there are some people

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Speaker 1: who have a pretty good finger on the way things

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Speaker 1: are moving or tend to move, yeah, or our own

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Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, we are our own worst threat.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Pappus is going to join us after the news

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour and we'll kick some local

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Speaker 1: issues around with him. So hope you can stick around

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Speaker 1: for that. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRCV

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Speaker 1: Talk Station, Today's top headlines coming up, Trouda in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Fix this in sixty days.

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Speaker 5: Hand omark on Face the Nation.

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Speaker 1: That is a they e lest the Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 1: on sixty minutes. I got check in after threads fifty

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Speaker 1: five krc the Talk station fifty five krc DE Talks

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Speaker 1: Station seven O six This Tuesday morning, December of the ninth,

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Speaker 1: Christmas is done, Barroway, Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: joined a couple of days off. Brian Thomas is back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and our buddy Joe Strucker was able to talk

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Speaker 1: to Andrew Pappis and get him to get up early

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Speaker 1: in the morning. Papas who is currently convalescing from a

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Speaker 1: serious illness. You don't have you don't have the wu hon,

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Speaker 1: Do you.

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Speaker 2: Explain something to Dan Carroll If this was if you

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Speaker 2: were suffering the ailment that I am suffering, it would

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Speaker 2: be you'd be laying in a hospital with so many

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Speaker 2: tubes in you they wouldn't be able to see you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So let's have a little bit of compassion for those

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Speaker 2: of us that are not only suffering but are still

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Speaker 2: getting up every day and contributing to society.

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Speaker 5: Two meetings.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. That is great. Let me ask you have

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Speaker 1: a little hypothetical question for you.

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Speaker 5: I love your hypotheticals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a going to be a meeting today

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Speaker 1: of a committee in Cincinnati City Hall.

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Speaker 2: It is the.

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Speaker 1: Public Safety and Governance Committee. And if you Andrew Pappas

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Speaker 1: were a member of said committee, it never happened. And

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Speaker 1: the ordinate I know it would never happen. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's hypothetical. And an ordinance came before you that was

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Speaker 1: a settlement of eight point one million dollars and you said, look,

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Speaker 1: we need you to sign off on this because we

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Speaker 1: want to pay two million dollars to the lawyers and

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Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs upwards of ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars apiece over because they were they were rioting and

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Speaker 1: disobeying curfew orders and disobeying police on the streets of

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the summer of the spring of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Would you go along with in and fix your signature

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Speaker 1: to such an ordinance?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you asked that question. First of all,

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Speaker 2: to answer your questions is simply, there's no way in

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Speaker 2: hell I would ever sign that agreement, and nor should

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Speaker 2: anyone that has taken the oath to protect public sign

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Speaker 2: that oath. Okay, But secondly, I have I spoke to

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Speaker 2: a police officer yesterday and I posted about this on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't know that I would be speaking to

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Speaker 2: a Cincinnati police officer yesterday, And I said, let me

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Speaker 2: ask you a question, because this officer was in the

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Speaker 2: meeting where this settlement was announced and he got to

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Speaker 2: ask some questions about it.

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Speaker 1: How about that and how about.

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Speaker 5: That breaking news? And so.

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Speaker 2: I said, how does it make you feel as a

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Speaker 2: police officer that city the city passes an ordinance asks

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Speaker 2: you to enforce it, and literally every encounter that you

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Speaker 2: have with the public of this nature is risks your

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Speaker 2: life because you never know how anything's going to go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a traffic stuff, an officer risks their lives

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Speaker 2: because you don't know how it's going to go. And

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Speaker 2: I said, how does it make you feel? He said,

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Speaker 2: it's not only is it infuriating. On one hand, you're

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Speaker 2: just consumed.

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Speaker 5: With how can this happen?

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Speaker 2: Because the very people that we were asked to keep

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Speaker 2: the city safe from burning. If you remember the Summer

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Speaker 2: of Love of twenty twenty protests, you remember seeing a

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Speaker 2: reporter standing in front of a building going up like

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Speaker 2: an inferno, and he's telling you don't pay attention to

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Speaker 2: the flames behind him. A lot of these people are peaceful. Okay, great,

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Speaker 2: that's fantastic. A lot of them aren't mostly peaceful yet.

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Speaker 2: Yet are our men and women in law enforcement put

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Speaker 2: their lives on the line to protect businesses, protect residents, residences,

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Speaker 2: to protect the residence of Cincinnati from the same absolute

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Speaker 2: carnage we saw in other cities.

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Speaker 5: And what did they get for it?

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Speaker 2: They got kicked in the teeth. And you know what

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Speaker 2: he said to me, He said, let me tell you

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Speaker 2: what that does to me. First of all, I'm marking

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Speaker 2: the clock when i'm when my time is up, I'm

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Speaker 2: out of here, says I am out of here. I'm

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Speaker 2: not working for this any longer. But he's not going

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Speaker 2: to walk away from his pension right now. That would

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Speaker 2: be you know, that'd be foolish on his part. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: because human, they you know human, we have to keep

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Speaker 2: our families. You know, it's do it right by our

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Speaker 2: families first. Secondly, he said, and the next time that

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Speaker 2: they ask us to do something like this, that there's

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Speaker 2: you know, widespread civil unrest and they call the police

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Speaker 2: to come out and quell it, he said, We're not

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Speaker 2: going to do it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we'll show up. We're not arresting anybody. What's

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Speaker 5: the point.

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Speaker 1: What's the point.

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Speaker 5: What is the point?

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Speaker 1: Well, I suggested, I suggested earlier this morning that they

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Speaker 1: just armed police officer with giant sacks of cash and

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Speaker 1: pass out money, you know, maybe four or five hundred

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Speaker 1: bucks per protester and say you would you please go

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Speaker 1: on and come back tomorrow night. We'll have another four

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Speaker 1: or five hundred bucks for you and just go on.

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Speaker 1: You cut out the middleman, and just the.

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Speaker 2: Middle man, which is this is the attorney. So you

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Speaker 2: saved the attorney.

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Speaker 1: Fees, justice furs money directly to individuals who want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, disobey curfews and police orders and all the

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Speaker 1: rest of it.

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Speaker 5: Just now what he told me.

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Speaker 2: What he told me also was this was the result

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Speaker 2: of the law department charging these people under a incorrect

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Speaker 2: either statute or whatever. And I don't speak legally.

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Speaker 5: That's above my pay grade. I'm not you know me, well, Dan, I'm.

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: Not the smartest you know person in the room, and

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 2: I like to people know that I'm not the smartest.

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: But let me say this. I'll fool you, right. I

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: want you to underestimate me, which is great, But I

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01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: will tell you this if that's true, I want you

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: to understand the logic here. So the law department and

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 2: with the city, passes an ordinance and this and the

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: police enforce the ordinance, and then the law department makes

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: mistake and charges these these people that were arrested under

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: either the wrong statute or something of legally's nature. And

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01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the He mentioned something called M

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: one versus M four. I don't know what that means

1088
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: because I'm not usually down at the Justice center, and

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: forgive me, I'm not. I just don't hang out there,

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: nor am I called down there.

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 5: But I will tell you this, if that's true.

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: Complete the circle so the law all this stems apparently

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: from the law departments ineptness and incompetence. So they made

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: the mistake, and now the city is going to turn around.

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: They're going to reward the very people that were causing

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: the crime because of a law department's mistake. And you know,

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: a class action lawsuit brought about. And you know, I'm

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't understand. Given everything we just had, what was

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: it two nights ago, I thought that crime was supposed

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: to slow down in the city. From what I've heard,

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: there were more shootings, there was a couple of street takeovers,

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01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: and it was cold outside, which I thought that.

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 5: Wasn't supposed to happen.

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: But we have a problem in the city of Cincinnati,

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: and all something like this does, in my very humble opinion,

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: is it exacerbates the situation because the criminals, I mean,

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: imagine being a criminal.

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 5: You're laughing, you are laughing. What are they gonna do

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 5: arrest us or pay us?

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: How does any reasonable person reach any other conclusion than

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01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: we are inviting more of this in the future. You know,

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01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: the Inquirer has done a deep dive on this, and

1113
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: they assure us in the settlement that if you were

1114
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: a person charged with any accompanying felony or offense of

1115
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: violence or property damage, then you're not part of this settlement.

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: Do you believe that for one second that individuals who

1117
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: were observed by police engaging in property violence or damage,

1118
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 1: or knocking planners over, breaking windows, engaging in maybe some theft.

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01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: Do you believe for one minute that those people aren't

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: going to get part of this payoff?

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 5: No? Do you know?

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It may say that in the settlement, but

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: these all these cases were dismissed. So it has the

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01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: city gone in, Has the city law department gone in

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: and examined individual by individual and case by case to

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: make sure that anyone who engaged in any violent activity

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01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: is not going to be part of this settlement. What

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01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: assurances do we have that that that's taken place?

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 5: None? None? They you know, I the very same.

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01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: Listen, this is this is ultimately what the voters have

1131
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: voted for. I mean, let's be sure the voters, the

1132
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 2: voter who don't care, the voters don't.

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: What's eight million dollar. I don't live I'm like you,

1134
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't live in the city. I don't I don't

1135
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: vote a bit, but I don't want to see things

1136
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: like this happened. I don't want I don't want the

1137
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati to be on national Look, we were

1138
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: on national television plenty when we had the beatdown that

1139
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: took place in the streets of Cincinnati. You know what

1140
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 1: we did, you know when we didn't make national television

1141
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: is when the George Soros sponsored UH agitators came to

1142
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,520
Speaker 1: our city and and our police force, our law enforcement,

1143
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Sheriffs, and the Cincinnati police shut them down.

1144
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: The mayor. The mayor took the proper steps, issued the

1145
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,879
Speaker 1: UH the the UH the ordinance to have the curfew,

1146
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: and we shut it down. And guess what we weren't

1147
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: on national TV then, why Because we didn't have buildings

1148
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: that were burning, we didn't have police cars that were overturned,

1149
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: we didn't have UH you know, the the complete street

1150
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: takeovers like they had in other cities.

1151
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 5: No question.

1152
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: And you know, you just sit there, Imagine that you

1153
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: owned a business downtown and I'm thinking of all the

1154
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: small business owners that are getting up this morning driving

1155
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: to work downtown or somewhere within the city limits. Okay,

1156
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be downtown. The city encompasses a

1157
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: lot of neighborhoods, and you sit there and you're struggling,

1158
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: and you're working, and your business is you know, owning

1159
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: a small business, which is the backbone of America, is

1160
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: a tough thing. And you sit there and see, you know,

1161
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: not only do you have to keep your business running

1162
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: your customers safe, but you know, you see every day

1163
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: your neighborhood and you see what's going on in the

1164
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: neighborhood that you're doing business. And and here the city

1165
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: comes along and the great people that are a drain

1166
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 2: on your neighborhood by being soaking up all the resources

1167
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: and or causing problems, whether it's you know, petty crime

1168
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: or major crime, whatever the case might be. You see

1169
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: these people getting rewarded where and yet you get up

1170
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: every day, go to work, pay your taxes.

1171
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 6: Where's your where's your.

1172
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: Olive branch from the city of Cincinnati, I mean.

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01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 6: Where's that?

1174
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 2: Where's your thank you for thank you? Without you small

1175
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: business owner, we wouldn't have places for the people in

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 2: this neighborhood to work, because like it or not, not

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01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: everybody works in a in a huge building Downtown. Most

1178
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: of it is still still to a large degree, most

1179
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,839
Speaker 2: of Americans are employed by small business in this country.

1180
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 2: And this is a not only a kick in the

1181
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: teeth to the taxpayers, the law abiding taxpayers in Cincinnati.

1182
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: Whether you live in Cincinnati or just outside Cincinnati, you

1183
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: are affected by what happens in Cincinnati when and and

1184
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: and you get up every day and go to work,

1185
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: and they're just they just you are taken for granted.

1186
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: And what they are doing is actually, I believe you know,

1187
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 2: paying the inmates that are now running the asylum.

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: All right, Andrews, stay right there. We got to get

1189
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: to a break, pay a couple of bills, and we'll

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: be right back with our buddy, Andrew Pappus on fifty

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: five kr CV talk stations since two thousand and eight,

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: center of hopus K the talk station fifty five krc

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: DE talk station. Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, continuing our

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01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: conversation with Andrew Pappas and Papas The The Inquirer did

1195
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: a deep dive into how the settlement breaks down, and

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: here's here's my favorite part. For those who were detained

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: for a period of more than five hours in association

1198
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: with their arrest, they could be eligible up for for

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: up to another two thousand dollars. So I talked about

1200
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: this earlier this morning, and and my math was an air.

1201
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: I said that comes out to two hundred dollars an hour.

1202
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm wrong about that. That's four hundred dollars an hour.

1203
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: Four hundred dollars an hour be a protested pace, pretty good.

1204
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: The eleven lead plaintiffs in the case receive an additional

1205
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars for their role Andrew and representing their

1206
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: fellow play us. Isn't that.

1207
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 5: It's outstanding.

1208
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't blame you because I've heard

1209
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 2: you utter many times the phrase math is hard.

1210
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: Math is hard, unforgiving. I do not claim to be

1211
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: a genius at math.

1212
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: But you know, you know it's funny because during the

1213
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: break I heard something that I thought it was very

1214
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: apropos and I'll let you look at up really quick

1215
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: to see what it means. But the point of the

1216
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: matter is is that I think counsel. I think counsel

1217
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: and everyone affiliated with this decision should take a session

1218
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: at the Lindener Center that advertises for mental health because it's.

1219
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Praisy should avail themselves with those services.

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01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely, they should have that.

1221
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: They should be listening to fifty five krs. And they

1222
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 2: should call the sponsors that are advertisers on this program

1223
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: because anyone that would anyone that would agree with this

1224
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: just I mean, I just did. But does it surprise you?

1225
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, does it

1226
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: surprise you we had this city of Cincinnati continuing their

1227
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: contract with Iris the virus, and we have we have

1228
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: the mayor then running, you know, the mayor of Cincinnati

1229
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 2: who apparently understands the phrase math is hard because he

1230
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,879
Speaker 2: can't make his car payment. And we all know that,

1231
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: you know, especially especially, let's be fair, especially in this

1232
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: age of instant communication and apps on your phone and

1233
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: being able to see your banking records at any time

1234
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, it's hard to remember if you've

1235
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: paid your car roll. It's very very difficult, very hard.

1236
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: But you know, after all of this, what happens. They

1237
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: get they get re elected eighty percent. I mean, so

1238
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna you're gonna go to.

1239
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 5: The squeaky wheel.

1240
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: You're going to go to the people that are causing

1241
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: the problems, and you're gonna say.

1242
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 5: Hey, what can I do to make you just be cool.

1243
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: For a little while so I can get re elected.

1244
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 5: And that's who your basis.

1245
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: Because the rest of the public is so fractured and

1246
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: splinter it doesn't really matter. And they've got their heads down,

1247
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: going to work every day, living their lives, paying their bills,

1248
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 2: paying their car payments.

1249
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: Excuse me, mister mayor.

1250
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,520
Speaker 2: And you know at the nothing there are no repercussions

1251
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: for all these bad decisions.

1252
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 5: That's my point.

1253
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought Iris Rollie had carved out

1254
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good gig for her son when it was

1255
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: learned that he was down there on Fountain Square, passed

1256
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: in Fountain Square, but Government Square, passing out some informational

1257
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: flyers to the tune of about fifty eight dollars an hour.

1258
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty good gig. But if

1259
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: I can begin, you know, if I can be detained

1260
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: by Cincinnati police and hang around the Hamilton County Justice

1261
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Center or the Transit center underneath Fort Washington Way to

1262
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: the tune of about four hundred bucks an hour, I

1263
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: think I know which way I'm going to go.

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01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: I know some attorneys that don't make four hundred dollars

1265
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: an hour.

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01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: That's pretty good deal. So Kevin Aldrich, who is the

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: opinion editor, We've only got about a minute here at

1268
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: UH an engagement editor at the Inquiry took the mayor

1269
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 1: to task for his story not really not really holding

1270
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: water when it comes to this story, does does does

1271
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: aftab Purval need to come correct on this? Does he

1272
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: need to just own just own whatever happened with the

1273
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: repossessions and say look here's the deal and get this.

1274
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: He cannot allow this to drag on and keep and

1275
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: keep dogging him.

1276
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 2: Here's what I have Tad Preval is gonna He's going

1277
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: to ignore this. The press is going to get tired

1278
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: of it. No one's going to remember it. It's just

1279
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: going to fade away, and a tab Purval will be

1280
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: propped up by the Democrats as the next uh you know,

1281
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: promised child of the Democrat party because he's a you know,

1282
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: he's he's he's a nice looking, clean cut young man

1283
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: that they will run for the next higher office. He's never,

1284
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: in my opinion, he's never really had a he's never

1285
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: really had an interest in serving in any office other

1286
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: than the next office he.

1287
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 5: Was going to.

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Speaker 2: So look, I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Telling you what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: They're going to do nothing, and let's Pharaoh good that

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Speaker 2: one reporter at the inquiry chose to do a quote

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Speaker 2: unquote deep dive and said, we wait, we have read

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Speaker 2: the document here that says that's not true. You know,

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Speaker 2: because the news media couldn't seem to hold him to

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Speaker 2: task while he was sitting in front of the camera.

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Speaker 2: They just said, oh, okay, that's a great excuse. You know,

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Speaker 2: your auto pay got messed up for not one month,

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Speaker 2: not two months, not three months. Plus all the emails

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Speaker 2: you must have it, plus the text messages, plus the

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Speaker 2: phone calls.

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Speaker 1: You didn't even notice that hasn't had a car repossessed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it happens.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a boat. I think it's in today's

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Speaker 2: were all the politics. I think some sort of crime,

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Speaker 2: whether it's embezzling billions of dollars in Minnesota or missing

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Speaker 2: a few car payments. I mean that gives you street

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Speaker 2: cred and that makes you you know, now, the base

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Speaker 2: is like, you know what, he understands what I'm going through.

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to support that man.

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Speaker 2: Rather than saying, this is the guy that's involved.

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Speaker 5: This is the guy that's.

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Speaker 2: Handling our public trust and our public money, our public treasure,

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Speaker 2: and he can't freaking make a car payment or no way,

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Speaker 2: it's in his bank account. I'm sorry, no disrespect, listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm empathetic as the next person, but public officials should

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Speaker 2: be held to a higher standard.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well with that, Andrew, we'll let you go always.

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Speaker 5: Dan Carroll, I'm cont yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: The government is called and they want to make a

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Speaker 2: antibody out of my blood because I've conquered the man called.

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Speaker 1: You're here. You're a real humanitarian, doing it for the better,

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Speaker 1: the betterment.

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Speaker 5: Of doing it for the people, Dan Carroll, the people.

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Speaker 1: Papas have a great day on Facebook, man, all right,

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Speaker 1: see you fifty five KRCD talk station. Ran Thomas taking

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Speaker 1: a day off, Dan Carroll hanging around. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank Papus for getting up early and checking in. Good

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Speaker 1: stuff there. It was fun. It's not going to be

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Joe A conversation with Pappas. He was

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Speaker 1: in pretty good form this morning. That's pretty good stuff

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Speaker 1: right there. Oh, what else is going on? I just

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Speaker 1: had this piece in front of me and what did

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Speaker 1: I do with it? What did I do with it?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? Here we go. Justice Department is on track

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Speaker 1: to compel more than half the states in America to

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Speaker 1: clean up their voter rolls and believe sloppiness that left

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Speaker 1: dead people and non citizens in a position to vote

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Speaker 1: in Democrat run states is intentional. The sloppiness of the

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Speaker 1: elections in blue states is no accident. It's on purpose.

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Speaker 1: It's a feature, not a bug, set Assistant Attorney General

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Speaker 1: for Civil Rights har Meat Dylan. The goal is to

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Speaker 1: cram as many people on there and to make voters

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Speaker 1: who are not particularly engaged make it easy for someone

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Speaker 1: else to help them fill out their ballot and return

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Speaker 1: it for them when they didn't care enough to do

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Speaker 1: it themselves. What we can do at the federal government

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Speaker 1: level is ensure our federal election laws are observed, and

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Speaker 1: that includes each state's requirement to keep clean voter rolls.

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Speaker 1: That is a fundamental basic and of course, as we

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Speaker 1: have discussed for many years now, when the notion of

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Speaker 1: cleaning up your voter rolls, getting dead people off the rolls,

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Speaker 1: getting people who vote outside of where they're supposed to vote,

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Speaker 1: whether they be in another state or another precinct or

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Speaker 1: another district, that has been referred to as voter suppression

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Speaker 1: and data is way past time that we got beyond

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Speaker 1: that idiotic notion. Dylan spoke today after her division filed

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit against six Democrat run states Maryland, Delaware, Rhode Island,

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Speaker 1: New Mexico, Washington, and Vermont, seeking to compel them to

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Speaker 1: turn over their voter roles to be inspected by the

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Speaker 1: DoD for abnormal abnormalities, outdated names, or non compliant names.

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Speaker 1: She also struck a deal last week with North Carolina

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Speaker 1: to force it to review over one hundred thousand voter

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Speaker 1: names on rolls that were added without complying with state law. So,

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Speaker 1: in a state like North Carolina, is one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: votes going to make a difference in in their elections

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Speaker 1: and statewide elections? I would think so, Jim, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing this morning?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Jim?

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Speaker 3: Just like you like to know that out here in

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Speaker 3: West Claremont, we like to just select it for the

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Speaker 3: third time. A school board member that has two personal

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Speaker 3: bankruptcies in the house, couldn't take her couldn't take care

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Speaker 3: of his house. His house was taken from him.

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Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't it doesn't have a house. Where does

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Speaker 1: where does he live? Does he live at a school

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Speaker 1: board office? Or what?

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Speaker 3: They'll probably enter bridge somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Nobody shows up for the school board meeting. Yeah, that's dedication,

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Speaker 1: that's dedication. That's that's the voters. Jim, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you would look West Claremont school board.

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Speaker 1: I have do not I don't live far away from there,

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Speaker 1: but I do not have great familiarity with the the

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Speaker 1: comings and goings of the West Claremont School Board. And

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Speaker 1: if you elected someone who was homeless or has had

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Speaker 1: judgments against their their property, maybe you need to rethink.

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Speaker 5: Your vote there.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's see. Harmey Dillon said the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: is checking records from all states and it has found

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Speaker 1: some states, like California, are particularly loosey goosey. She said,

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Speaker 1: the sort of problems are being uncovered in red and

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Speaker 1: blue states alike. There are definitely people on the voter

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Speaker 1: rolls of every state who don't belong there. They're dead,

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Speaker 1: they moved, they're registered multiple times. There have been reports

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Speaker 1: of instances of people, because of these insecure, double or

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Speaker 1: extraneous registrations, going to the polls and having their vote

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Speaker 1: recorded before they got there. How many times have we

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Speaker 1: heard that story? Someone goes to the polls to go vote,

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Speaker 1: and they look at them and they say, well, you've

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Speaker 1: already been here. How the heck can that happen? It happens,

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Speaker 1: So at least the Justice Department is saying harmeat. Dylon

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Speaker 1: is on it, and she is one of the very

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Speaker 1: few that I have confidence in when you talk about

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Speaker 1: a Yeah, she's not really a bureaucrat, but she's she's

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Speaker 1: in the Justice Department. So hopefully that something will come

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Speaker 1: in that It is seven thirty six. Got to get

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Speaker 1: to a break, Dan Carroll for Ryan Thomas fifty five

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Speaker 1: k r C the talk station. Hey is Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: with Steve from USA Insulation. If I do only a

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Speaker 1: lot of USA and Deep talk station fifty five krc

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Speaker 1: DE talk station. I was looking at my phone during

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Speaker 1: the break and I Joe, I got this message on

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Speaker 1: my phone that says my software is going to update tonight.

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Speaker 1: Will my phone work after that? I always asked Dave

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Speaker 1: Hatter about that kind of stuff. I think last time

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Speaker 1: that happened, he said, just let it happen, It'll be

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Speaker 1: all right. So I hope, I hope that's a I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm never sure about it. I still ye, are you

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Speaker 1: like me, do you send out emails and then you

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Speaker 1: wonder if people got them. I sent them out. I

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Speaker 1: sent them out to the different producers because you know,

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Speaker 1: I worked different shifts, so you know, down the hall

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Speaker 1: and I sent it. So I'm sending my emails to

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Speaker 1: different producers. The first thing I do when I get

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Speaker 1: in the building, did you get my email? Because I

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Speaker 1: just I just don't don't have that sense that it

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Speaker 1: got through. Yeah, but Joe Strecker is the same way.

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Speaker 1: You're never a hundred when you hit that send button,

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Speaker 1: even though you go. I always look at my scent file.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it says I sent it, but I'm still

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Speaker 1: just not one hundred percent sure. A widely cited twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four study, the Claim to forecast climate change and

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Speaker 1: the Dire Economic impact globally, has been retracted happened last week,

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Speaker 1: but the withdrawal comes far too late, as the paper

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Speaker 1: had already shaped analysis by the United States the Congressional

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Speaker 1: Budget Office. Influenced policy work at the World Bank had

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Speaker 1: been adopted by the Network for the Greening and Financial System,

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Speaker 1: a global coalition of central banks, as a key tool

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Speaker 1: for stress testing financial portfolios. Under European climate risk rules.

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Speaker 1: The study claim the global economic output would plunge by

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Speaker 1: sixty two percent by twenty one hundred if high carbon

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Speaker 1: emissions continued. Here's what the Wall Street Journal said. The

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Speaker 1: study examined historical data from some sixteen hundred regions worldwide

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Speaker 1: over the past four decades to project how change in

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Speaker 1: temperature and precipitation would affect economic growth, including factors like

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Speaker 1: agricultural yields, labor productivity, and infrastructure. However, after the study

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Speaker 1: was published, other researchers found that economic data from one country, Uzbekistan,

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Speaker 1: during a short time from nineteen ninety five to nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, had skewed the results. Without Uzbekistan, the twenty

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Speaker 1: one hundred damage forecast fell to twenty three percent, not

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Speaker 1: sixty two percent. So Uzbekistan's data how much, how much

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Speaker 1: industry and how much pollution causing industry is there in Uzbekistan?

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Speaker 1: And their data over a four year time period nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five to nineteen ninety nine had skewed the results

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Speaker 1: that much. I mean, are they pumping out that much

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Speaker 1: pollution in Uzbekistan? I would imagine that the manufacturing standards

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Speaker 1: there are a far cry from what we have in

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Speaker 1: the United States, Canada certainly maybe even China, for God's sake,

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Speaker 1: who knows. But without Uzbekistan, the twenty one hundred damage

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Speaker 1: forecast fell to twenty three percent, not sixty two percent.

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Speaker 1: We broadly agree with the issues raised and have made

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Speaker 1: corrections to the underlying economic data and to our methodology

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Speaker 1: to address them. The studies author set the changes are

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Speaker 1: too substantial for a correction of the original article in Nation,

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Speaker 1: but significant damage has already been done with major financial

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Speaker 1: institutions relying on the study to assess climate related risks.

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Speaker 1: That's why whenever Rush Limbaugh used to talk about these

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Speaker 1: environmental issues, I mean, he always called them kooks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: imagine relying on and just blindly relying on a study

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Speaker 1: like this. I've talked to so many people who are

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Speaker 1: experts in this field, and all these predictions of doom

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Speaker 1: and gloom as they relate to the environment all come

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Speaker 1: from computer models. And if the information that goes into

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Speaker 1: the computer model is not good, then the result is

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Speaker 1: going to be flawed, and in this case severely flawed,

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Speaker 1: and in this case policy decisions affecting God knows how

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Speaker 1: many billions of dollars have already been made based on

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Speaker 1: these flawed models. And this is not the first time

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Speaker 1: that major studies or major predictions like this have been

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Speaker 1: found to be inaccurate and wrong. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this was done on purpose, but I know other ones.

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Speaker 1: I know there have been other scientists who have come

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Speaker 1: out and said that they were influenced to provide incorrect

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Speaker 1: data for these studies so a desired result could be achieved.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole man, the whole environmental movement is

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Speaker 1: an absolute scam. And now you've got another judge out

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Speaker 1: there who is trying to shut down Trump when it

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Speaker 1: comes to getting rid of windmills. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: about that. On the other side of this seven forty

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Speaker 1: five Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRCV talk

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Speaker 1: station Life is.

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Speaker 9: Better with less financial stress.

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Speaker 1: See the talk station Little sum against wine Shelter fifty

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Speaker 1: five krc DE talk station, Great song selection thereby Judge Strecker.

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Speaker 1: I think I teased this before the last break. Another

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Speaker 1: Clinton appointed judge, Another Clinton Well, it's another judge. This

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Speaker 1: one happens to be appointed by Clinton. Then his latest

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Speaker 1: ruling issued Monday, a Clinton appointed judge decided that Trump

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Speaker 1: has not explained himself enough and failed to justify his

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Speaker 1: decision to put a halt to win project madness that

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Speaker 1: has swept the country. A federal judge Monday ruled that

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01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: President Trump's administration had failed to justify its decision to

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01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: suspend issue issuing leases and permits for new WIN projects.

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01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: US District Judge Patty Saris of Boston sided with a

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01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: group a seven teen Democrat led states and the District

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01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: of Columbia, and finding that agencies had failed to sufficiently

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Speaker 1: explain why they had indefinitely paused all federal approval approvals

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01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: of wind energy project projects. How About because they don't work?

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01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: How About because the record shows that these things fail

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01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: at an alarming rate, that they never produce the electricity

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01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: that they are projected to produce, and they cannot be

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01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: kept online for an appreciable amount of time. That the

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01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: ability to recoup the cost of constructing these wind turbines,

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01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: whether they be on the ocean or on land, that

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01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: the ability to recoop those costs is almost non existent.

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01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: It is an absolute crapshoot that the payoff that you

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01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: get in terms of clean energy, when you talk about

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01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: the carbon footprint necessary just to install one of these,

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01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: the carbon footprint that's necessary to create the components and

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01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: build the components of these giant wind turbines. But no,

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01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: this federal judge Patty Sarus s A Ris of Boston,

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01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: and I just scrolled up the article and the picture

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01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: of this individual appeared. I mean, you talk about a

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01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: way to ruin your day. On Trump's first day in office,

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01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: he issued an executive order titled Temporary Withdrawal of all

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Speaker 1: areas on the Outer Continental Shelf from offshore wind leasing

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01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 1: and review of the Federal Government's lease and permitting practices

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01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: for WIN Projects. That is a long title for an

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01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: executive order, but apparently this judge knows better. The policy

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01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,879
Speaker 1: constitutes a change of course from decades of agencies issuing

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01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: or denying permits related to WIN projects. She said, the

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01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 1: agencies never provided a reason explaining the adoption or adopting

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01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: for adopting the change. I mean, how how how dense

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01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: does this judge need to be? There is ample of it,

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01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: and look I can I can find I find it

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01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: all the time. One project, just do just to a

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01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 1: quick Google search. How many of these WIN projects have

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01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: gone bankrupt? How many of these win projects at the

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01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: at the notion that a government subsidy was no longer

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01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: going to be available, whether they shut it down, because

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01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: that is the only thing that keeps a lot of

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01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: these projects going. I mean all the all the reports

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01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: are out there about the the subsidies for the electric cars.

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01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: The electric I've got an article on that somewhere, But

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01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean the electric car, I think I think sales

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01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: were off sixty three percent last month. I'm gonna have

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: to find that. But no, when the subsidies dry up,

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01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: when the government money goes away for wind projects, for

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01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 1: electric for solar panels, all that stuff, it doesn't exist anymore.

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01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: These things need to be driven by market forces and

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01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 1: the days of government propping up. Look, they found this

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01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: out in Germany, they're finding us out in Australia. They

1554
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: found this out in all parts of the world where

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01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: they went all in on building building solar farms and

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01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: building these wind these windmills and the wind turbines. They

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01:42:55,880 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: just don't work. There's no enomy of scale, the price

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01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: is too high, and from a commercial standpoint, they're just

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01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: not worth the expense. And you've got the giant, the

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01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: giant solar towers out there in California that they're being

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01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: shut down. The ones Joe you make, you know those

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01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: ones with the You got the giant tower in the middle,

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01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: it's got a giant mirror on it. Then you get

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01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 1: all these these mirrors around and it directs all the

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01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: sunlight into this into this giant tower, and there's a

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01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: turbine in there creates it, and you've got water and

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01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: to create steam, and you make electricity. And when the

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01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: birds fly through the rays of the sun being directed

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01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 1: at these towers, they're incinerated instantly and they fall to

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Speaker 1: the ground. They're called streamers because poof, they go up

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01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 1: in a in a ball of flame, and then the

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01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: smoke trails to the ground, and the locals out there

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01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: call them streamers. Never mind that environmental damage seven fifty five.

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01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 1: You got to get to a B. And then todds Endzer,

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01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Citizen Watchdog, is going to be in studio and we

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01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: have plenty to kick around with him in the eight

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Speaker 1: o'clock hours, so I encourage you to stick around for that.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas on fifty five krc

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Speaker 1: DE Talk stas today's top headlines coming up at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour.

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Speaker 5: At the Eastern Nation.

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Speaker 9: That is a feeling of the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green on sixty minutes, I got shack, give

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Speaker 1: you five KRC the talk station fifty five KRC DE

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Speaker 1: Talk station eight o six, Tuesday, December ninth, Brian Thomas

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01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: taking the day off. He is back tomorrow. I am

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01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 1: told Joe Strecker's rolling out the Van Hallen Music. Got

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Speaker 1: a love every minute of it. I'm Dan Carroll and

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01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas, and my great pleasure to welcome into

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Speaker 1: the studio a guy that I I've talked to on

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Speaker 1: the phone. I've texted him and we've exchanged some emails

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Speaker 1: back and forth, but my first time meeting him in person,

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Speaker 1: and it is the Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer and Todd

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Speaker 1: is It's great to see you this morning.

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01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 9: Great to see you, Dan.

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01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: You got stuck in traffic on the way here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 9: I don't know a lot of Chuck Ingram. I was

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Speaker 9: waiting to hear Chuck Ingram. I didn't hear him.

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Speaker 1: But you made it here. Nonetheless, I did. Are you

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01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: quickly becoming one of the most hated men at City Hall?

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01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 9: I think there are probably a few that would rather

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01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 9: not have me around.

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what tell me for for those who don't know,

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01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: and and and I've never met you in person before,

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: but I know you what You were an inspector general? Yes,

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01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,839
Speaker 1: at at which which government agency?

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01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 3: Well?

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01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 9: Two agencies. I was the Inspector General at Commerce Department

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01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 9: and that includes Noah, the Census Bureau. You know, I'm

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01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 9: gapping right now, but a collection of agencies. Patent and

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01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 9: Trademark Office was a big one. And then before that

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01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 9: I worked for the Transportation Inspector General for sixteen years.

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01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 9: I left there to go to Commerce. I was the

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01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 9: deputy IG when I left Transportation IG.

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01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So within the federal government are inspector generals? Are

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: you sort of frowned upon by the people that work

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01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: there or do they welcome what you do to to

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01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: audit and oversee and report on your finding.

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Speaker 9: I think the rank and file appreciate the IG. I

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01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 9: don't think the management. Does you know? For example, if

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01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 9: I ever went into an office to meet you know,

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Speaker 9: the management or whatever, people would yell out IG in

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Speaker 9: the house.

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Speaker 1: You know things like that, Yeah, like internal affairs of

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01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 1: the Police Department.

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Speaker 9: Right exactly?

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01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 1: Wait, are you from Cincinnati.

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01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 9: Originally I am up grew up in price when I

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Speaker 9: held Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's why that's why you're you're back in or

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01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: I guess have you lived in Cincinnati the whole time? Uh?

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Speaker 5: No?

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01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 9: I was transferred from Cincinnati to New Haven, Connecticut, and

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Speaker 9: then to New York City and then to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: And I finished up in Washington.

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Speaker 1: But glad to be back in Cincinnati. Oh yeah, and

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01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: now you turn your attention to city hall, I have, yes.

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Speaker 1: Did that happen? Was that was that part of the

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01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 1: plan to come back and do that or did you

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01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: just sort of fall into that or someone said, hey,

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01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: look at this is interesting, take a look at this,

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01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 1: or how did that happen?

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01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 9: When I came back, the big reason was to spend

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01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 9: some time with my mother and her final years. And

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01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 9: I wound up working for a inventor, helping him with

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01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 9: some litigation against the patent office. And it came to

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01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 9: be twenty twenty three all of a sudden, and I

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01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 9: hear that the city wants to sell this railroad. Yes, yeah,

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01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 9: and that that triggered me.

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01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: So that I got a little red flag went up there.

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01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 9: Huh yes, and I started a political action committee called

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01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 9: Citizens for a Transparent Railroad Vote and did did whatever

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01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,759
Speaker 9: I could to speak out against the sale. Unfortunately, we lost,

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01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 9: and so that that really gave me a lot of

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01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 9: insight about how the city was operating. They were very

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01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 9: very dishonest about that deal, uh, and they sprung it

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01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 9: on the citizens that their first statements were that, well,

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Speaker 9: we can't really get involved in you know, politics here,

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01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 9: so we're not going to give you any information in

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01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 9: the in the trust or the board. The railroad board

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01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 9: said the same thing, and it's like, that's outrageous.

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Speaker 6: This.

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01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 9: The people need to know what's going on here before

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01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 9: we vote on anything. So that's that's what triggered me.

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01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 9: And part of me doing this is to try to

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Speaker 9: keep track of what they're doing with that money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean, I had note about the Cincinnati

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01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: owning that railroad for for a long time, and I

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01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: think most people in Cincinnati had no idea that the

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Speaker 1: city actually owned a railroad and derived a very nice

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01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: revenue stream from from that railroad. When when you look

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01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 1: at all the assurances that were made, Charli I remember

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01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: Charlie Lucan doing multiple interviews on this talking about Hey,

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01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 1: all these guardrails are going to be up, but state

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01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: legislature got involved and all that. In the wake of

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Speaker 1: all that, are you satisfied with all the guardrails and

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01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 1: the you know that have been put in place to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this money is being used in the

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01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: right way or doled out in the right way. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you're shaking your head. None, not at all. Early on,

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01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: what's your major issue with the with the deal the

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: way it's it's structured.

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Speaker 9: Well, after we lost the vote, I did propose four

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01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,919
Speaker 9: or five different things that the city should do. For example,

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01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 9: they need to take what they spent on capital in

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01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three and use that as the floor. We

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01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 9: do not go below that, all right, and then whatever

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 9: the railroad money is you put on top of that.

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01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 9: So that's the only way to get ahead of the

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01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 9: spending that's required. But my big concern is that the

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01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 9: city doesn't have the capacity to spend all that extra

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01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 9: money in a timely way. And that's why they tell people, oh,

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01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 9: this is going to take ten years, and they actually

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01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 9: give money back or they have unspent money. And just

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Speaker 9: this Monday in the budget committee, they went through what

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01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 9: they call the carryover they have a carryover, and they

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01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 9: have a capital sunset, and these are moneys that the

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01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 9: city has not been able to spend the way they

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01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 9: told the public they would be spending it, and so

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01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 9: they have these carryover dollars and then they just go

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 9: to town and spend it.

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: So I see, I figured there was going to be

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01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 1: a way that this money was gonna was going to

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01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: be to get back into the general fund. But we

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01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 1: were we were assured that that there there was only

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01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 1: certain budget items that this could be spending. Largely, it's

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01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: it's infrastructure, infrastructure project, right right, right. And it seems

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01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 1: on one hand, it seems silly to limit yourself to

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01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. On the other hand, it seems

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01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: sort of silly to let a third party have control

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01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: over that money. And uh and and look, I'm not

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01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: that I am advocating that I trust city council to

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01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: be in charge of such a large sum, right because

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01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: I never really thought that was a good idea.

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Speaker 9: Right, So they set up this Rube Goldberg process about

1718
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 9: what you can spend it on and and how the

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01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 9: money is distributed and things like that and what. When

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01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:53,440
Speaker 9: this first passed, I was actually working with Jeff crammertine

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01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 9: on extra safeguards, and they actually put a motion forward,

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01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 9: and I just remember in back and forth with mister Cramerdy,

1723
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 9: they proposed this motion to get the administration to report

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01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 9: back on these guardrail proposals, and I says, well, you

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 9: should put a deadline on it, thirty days, sixty days,

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Speaker 9: whatever it is. They didn't do that, so it took

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01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 9: them a year to address that. And the way they

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01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 9: addressed it is they buried it in another motion or

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01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 9: addressing another motion. And what I think they should do

1730
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 9: is take They had a list they claimed to have

1731
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 9: a list of four hundred million dollars of deferred maintenance.

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01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 9: It was four hundred, it was five hundred. I only

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01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 9: saw a list of two hundred, and I saw a

1734
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 9: list of two hundred and fifty million dollar estimate. Well,

1735
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 9: they should take that list and go down the list

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01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 9: one by one and fix those things that they said

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01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 9: had been deferred.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that would be a sensible approach.

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01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:56,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: For crying out loud, I could I could spend all

1741
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: day asking you questions about the railroad project. I am

1742
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: told that subsequently that in review of this deal, that

1743
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: the purchase price is far less than what the value

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: of that railroad is.

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01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, they never put it out to bid, you know,

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01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 9: they just negotiated with Norfolk Southern. Yeah, so, I mean

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01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 9: Norfolk Southern had first DIBs if they wanted to sell it.

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01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: And what what was it? What was the final number?

1749
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 9: Six point one one point six.

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01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: One point six billion? Yeah, And that money doesn't all

1751
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: come at one time. It's that that money's paid out

1752
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 1: over a period of time, is that right?

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01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,600
Speaker 9: They get an annual they set an annual amount that

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01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 9: they're going to disperse to the city, and then that

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 9: is paid to the city and quarterly amounts. And what

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01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 9: I've what I've asked the Trust board to do is

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01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 9: track whether or not they've actually been able to spend

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01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 9: the money from quarter one before they give them money

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Speaker 9: for quarter two.

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Speaker 1: But weren't we told that that the interest on that

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01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: money has already exceeded what their projection was going to be.

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: And there for that's a wonderful thing, because now we

1764
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: have even more money than we thought we were going

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 1: to have.

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01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 9: Well, it has, the trust balance has gone up, but

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01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 9: so has inflation, and inflation is going to be here

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01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 9: for a long time, so you don't know what the

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01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 9: impact of inflation is on that balance. It probably buys

1770
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 9: much much less than it did in twenty twenty three,

1771
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 9: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: So I've had so many people ask me how are

1773
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: things going with the railroad money? And when people ask

1774
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: you that question, what's your general response to that?

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 9: Well, it's the first year that they are actually spending

1776
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 9: the money. The biggest chunk that I've seen is five

1777
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 9: million going to the Western Hills Viydoc. I think it

1778
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 9: was five or five point seven or something like that

1779
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 9: going to the Western Hills Viydoc. But the rest of

1780
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 9: the spending is spread out to rec centers and parks

1781
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 9: and things like that. That's really not the way I

1782
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 9: would do it, but that's the way they're doing it.

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01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 9: And then you have members of city council proposing motions

1784
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 9: to spend the money in different ways, Like they wanted

1785
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 9: to set up a Rising fifteen railroad fund that would

1786
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 9: take ten percent of the annual disbursement and put it

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01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 9: in another fund to be spent by Rising fifteen neighborhoods,

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01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 9: and we commented on that, And then they also wanted

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01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 9: to use the railroad money to fix everybody sidewalks, which

1790
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 9: would be great, but the sidewalks wasn't part of that

1791
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 9: four hundred million dollar deferred maintenance. So what they would

1792
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 9: be doing is taking on more deferred maintenance instead of

1793
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 9: dealing with the ones that we had when we made

1794
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 9: the deal.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Todd zens, we got to take a break,

1796
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: and we will continue with some more recent activities, okay,

1797
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: that you've been looking at. Because it never ends, no,

1798
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 1: it does. It does not end, So we'll continue with

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01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: Todd's endser Citizen Watchdog on fifty five KRC, the talk stations.

1800
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Zimmer Heating and Cooling has been insuring Cincinnati homes five KRC,

1801
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: the talk station fifty five KRC, the talk station eight

1802
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: twenty one, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. Todd Zinzer is

1803
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: here and you know him as Citizen Watchdog. You do

1804
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 1: you do a regular segment with Brian Thomas? Do you not?

1805
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:33,959
Speaker 9: Not regularly?

1806
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: Regularly? But I know you've been here, but this is

1807
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 1: not your first trip here to this day.

1808
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,839
Speaker 9: Once a month probably.

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. Well, I'm glad today is today, yes,

1810
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:45,839
Speaker 1: and I'm glad. I'm glad you here. We were texting

1811
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: and emailing a couple of days ago when it was

1812
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: announced this settlement came out, and you wanted to have

1813
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: a look at the at the original complaint, the settlement

1814
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: agreement and all that, and we were able to find

1815
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: that and have a look at it. And as you

1816
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 1: review this complaint in the settlement agreement, what sticks out

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01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 1: to you? And then look, I went, Todd is not

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 1: a lawyer, We're not looking at this from a legal sense.

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01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: But I mean over your years of being an inspector

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 1: general and looking into things, there are things that jump

1821
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: out to you that did you find interesting? And so

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01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 1: so that's the point of the question here. What did

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01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 1: you as you look at this settlement agreement and then

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01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 1: the related documents, what did you find interesting about these things?

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01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 9: Well, the first the first thing that that I thought

1826
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 9: was where has this case been and what has the

1827
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 9: public been told about this case? Absolutely before this came up.

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01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 9: And this is typical of this of this city administration,

1829
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 9: of the city compt.

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01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 1: Because when the news broke on this literally I like

1831
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: to think. Look, probably one of the faults I have

1832
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: as a radio show host is I tend to I

1833
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: tend to focus more on the national political scene and

1834
01:57:58,320 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: and the you know, every you know, when a big

1835
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: story breaks locally, I liked, I like to get on that.

1836
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: But when when this story came out, the news of

1837
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: this settlement came out, I think it was late Friday,

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01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what is this? Yeah, Wall, where

1839
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 1: is this coming from? Right? And just like you said that,

1840
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: this is not something that had been followed regularly by

1841
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: any of our local news.

1842
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 9: Outlets, right, Well, if you go on the city's website,

1843
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 9: they they do put memos online about the settlements that

1844
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 9: they've reached, but they don't put online the pending litigation

1845
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 9: as far as they they may report it to the

1846
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 9: city council at some point, but it's not well known

1847
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 9: what other cases are out there right now. I don't know,

1848
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 9: So that's kind of my first my first complaint. The

1849
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 9: problem that I saw was there's nothing in the complaint

1850
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 9: or the settlement that is really evidentiary value. There's nothing,

1851
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 9: there's nothing that we see yet about the the efficacy

1852
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 9: of these allegations. Complaints can make all kinds of allegations,

1853
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 9: but what what is their evidence? And we're not the

1854
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 9: public is not getting access to that.

1855
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, there's not there's not any evidence. I I don't

1856
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: see any any hard finding of facts that this is

1857
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: why the city ought to settle this case the city.

1858
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: I guess my point on this is I don't see

1859
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 1: anything that says, you know, these plainest uh state that

1860
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: that X, Y, and Z happened to them, and because

1861
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 1: of these these specific complaints and the finding of facts

1862
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 1: that go along with this, we feel it's best to

1863
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 1: settle this. I'm not finding that level of specifics that's right,

1864
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 1: and that's what should go on. Maybe maybe that exists somewhere.

1865
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it does well, but it's it's

1866
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: it's not evident in the documents that I've seen.

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01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 9: So you're right, and what should happened today is that

1868
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 9: the city council should.

1869
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Should demand that if if you want me to goin

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02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: off on this, I know if I was on that

1871
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 1: committee that's going to look at this, that's exactly what

1872
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: I would be saying. That's right.

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Speaker 9: The council needs to carry out their due diligence on

1874
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 9: this settlement because you're talking eight million dollars of city funds.

1875
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:20,480
Speaker 9: They have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that that

1876
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 9: settlement is in the best interests of the city. And

1877
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 9: what have they done. For example, there's no executive session

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02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 9: on the agenda today for the Public Safety Committee. They

1879
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:35,120
Speaker 9: should be going in the executive session and getting briefed

1880
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 9: by the Solicitor's office. We should know exactly what went

1881
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 9: on in terms of making this decision. My guess is

1882
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 9: that the mayor called in, the solicitor, called in the

1883
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 9: city manager, maybe a couple of lawyers, and they set

1884
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 9: around the table and decided, no, we're going to settle.

1885
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 9: So we should know exactly how they reach their decision,

1886
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 9: and then we should know what due diligence the city

1887
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 9: else is going to be carrying out.

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Speaker 1: You see, you know, you say, you say, you're you're

1889
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 1: speculating at the mayor sat in on meetings on this.

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02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I have a sense that Mayor Purvall wasn't involved in

1891
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: this whatsoever. I think he wants plausible deniability. Well they

1892
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: have anything to do when you know, when this thing

1893
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 1: crosses his desk, he put his signature on it, unfortunately.

1894
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't, I don't I don't see.

1895
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't see Purvoll's hand on in this at all.

1896
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 9: Unfortunately. I think you might be right then.

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02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: I just I just think that's the way he conducts

1898
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: business well a city hall. I know, if I was

1899
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: the mayor, I would There's no way I would sign this,

1900
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: There's no I would just me. I would say, we're

1901
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: going I'm taking this to court.

1902
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1903
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: Well, I would direct my law department to to bone

1904
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: up on this and let's take it to court, because

1905
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 1: I just think it sends a terrible message. Yeah, while

1906
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: others who would engage in such activity.

1907
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Speaker 9: I don't want to be overly critical, but I'm not

1908
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 9: sure the law department is up to it.

1909
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Speaker 7: Uh.

1910
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Speaker 9: You know, they've they've been involved in other cases where

1911
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 9: you shake your head about settlements. They they folded on

1912
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 9: a litigation that they made. They made a big deal

1913
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 9: out of of suing Wenebrook Homes for the lousy property

1914
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 9: management that Winebrook carried out. Uh, they made a big

1915
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 9: deal about going after them and suing them, and they

1916
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 9: folded like a cheap suit, and you have to shake

1917
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 9: your head, like, what what's the deal? And and what's

1918
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 9: worse is the settlement in that case. It made it

1919
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 9: look like the city was at fault and the city

1920
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 9: agreed to all these reforms and they're doing the same thing.

1921
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 9: They're doing the same thing on this.

1922
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's what the the the ordance says. There's

1923
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 1: no you know, there's no finding or an admission of

1924
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 1: guilt on the on the city's part. But yet they're

1925
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 1: acquiescing to Oh, we're going to have additional training and

1926
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Speaker 1: a new guidebook for for Cincinnati police about how to

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Speaker 1: how to handle such claims.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and you put more more constraints on the police,

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Speaker 9: more rules that they might not be able to follow.

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Speaker 1: And in the case of a ride, well, these new

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Speaker 1: guidelines have to meet the approval of Iris Roling.

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Speaker 9: Well, if you if you look, if you look at

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Speaker 9: her contracts, I would say I would say it probably

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Speaker 9: it probably would.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into that on the other side of

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Speaker 1: this as we take another quick break here eight twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: little late for a break on fifty five KRC the

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Speaker 1: Talk Stations.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the Talk Station, fifty five KRCD Talk Station,

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Speaker 1: continuing now with Todd Zinzer, also known as a Citizen Watchdog.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a podcast now with Joe Strucker, aren't I am?

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Speaker 1: How's that one? How is it working? With Joe on

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Speaker 1: on on the podcast.

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Speaker 9: It's easy, It's very easy. He's a he's a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, someoneoud told you five or ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be doing a podcast every What are

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Speaker 1: you doing like like every couple of weeks or I

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Speaker 1: try to do one a week, one a week. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Would you have believe them that you were going to

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Speaker 1: be no, you know, podcasting or doing on a regular.

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Speaker 9: It's actually Joe's fault. He's the one to suggest it.

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Speaker 1: He's very persuasive. Yes, those Joe, we love Joe strecord.

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Speaker 1: I mean without him, I mean a lot of this

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Speaker 1: stuff would not be happening. All right. I mentioned Iris

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Speaker 1: Rolli before he went to the last break, and you have.

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Speaker 1: I thought you did great work talking about her contract

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Speaker 1: when it was discovered that I guess she had her

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Speaker 1: son working down on Government Square passing out some information,

1960
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Speaker 1: getting paid roughly fifty eight dollars an hour, which is,

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Speaker 1: to my way of thinking, is a pretty I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that would like to earn fifty

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Speaker 1: eight dollars an hour, Yes, passing out some leaflets down

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Speaker 1: down at Government Square. Yeah, but you have some additional

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Speaker 1: information regarding the contract that she has with the city. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: she's carved out a pretty good gig for herself, has

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Speaker 1: she not? Yes, she has tell me about it well

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Speaker 1: before the election and all the controversies we had this summer.

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Speaker 1: Uh and when uh the FOP file to complain about

1970
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Speaker 1: miss Rolli allegedly interfering with police policemen on the street.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw some video to that effected.

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Speaker 9: We know, yeah, you saw a couple of clips videos

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Speaker 9: And that's really what got me uh paying attention to

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Speaker 9: to miss Rolli. Well, something they must have put her

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Speaker 9: on on the They must have benched her for a

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Speaker 9: period of time. And then the next thing you know,

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Speaker 9: the mayor is on with uh Lincoln Ware saying that

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Speaker 9: they've negotiated a new contract with with Iris Roli. And

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Speaker 9: I thought that was going to be kind of They're

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Speaker 9: going to fix all those kind of fast and lose

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Speaker 9: provisions in the contract. Yes, yes, so when when I

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Speaker 9: when I seem to make sense? So when I heard that,

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Speaker 9: I said, well, I'm going to ask for a copy

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Speaker 9: of the new contract book document right right. It took

1985
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Speaker 9: me a little while to get it, but it's very

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Speaker 9: very unusual you have a you have a soul source

1987
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Speaker 9: contract that was issued in twenty twenty three, that I

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Speaker 9: don't think is really justified. But then you have three

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Speaker 9: amendments since then. And the original value of the of

1990
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Speaker 9: the twenty three contract was about two hundred and ten

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Speaker 9: thousand dollars. That was a total value of the contract.

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Speaker 9: Now fast forward to the third amendment, which is what

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Speaker 9: this new contract is called. The value of the contract

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Speaker 9: is now six hundred and forty one thousand dollars, and

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Speaker 9: that goes through when that goes through twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Through twenty twenty seven. Yeah, and that that's only that

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Speaker 1: that's only two years through the end of twenty seven.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, the the so six hundred thousand dollars, right, value of.

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Speaker 9: The contract goes from now until twenty seven, and it

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Speaker 9: includes other things.

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Speaker 1: That six hundred grand.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the total value.

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Speaker 1: Is what she's pulling down from the city.

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Speaker 9: If if she completes all years of the.

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Speaker 1: Comment, I would say she's got a pretty good incentive

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 9: I think she does.

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Speaker 1: But for what and what type of services is Misroly providing, Well,

2010
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Speaker 1: there's very important. There's two categories. I'd say one is

2011
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Speaker 1: she was originally contracted to consult and it has to

2012
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Speaker 1: do with the collaborative Agreement and sustaining that she's an

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Speaker 1: expert in. Those are.

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Speaker 9: The management Advisory group that she's involved in.

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Speaker 1: But then the.

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Speaker 9: Second and third or the first, second and third amendments

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Speaker 9: have added what I view as program responsibilities. One is

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Speaker 9: called the Government Square initial and that's where the city

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Speaker 9: is paying her a lump sum like seventy five thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars to carry out I don't know if you'd call

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Speaker 9: it community engagement or what the official term would be,

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Speaker 9: but they're down at these transit hubs to kind of

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Speaker 9: chaperone the kids when they exchange buses or get off

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Speaker 9: the buses, and they.

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Speaker 1: Help providing information too, which is very very important.

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Speaker 9: They are they're providing snacks and things like that. So

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Speaker 9: that's called the Government Square Initiative. And what happened is

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Speaker 9: that the contract ended when the school year ended. The

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Speaker 9: Government Square Initiative ended when the school year ended, and

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Speaker 9: it wasn't going to start up until the fall, so

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Speaker 9: there was this summer period. There was a gap. Iris

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Speaker 9: Roley didn't have authorization to spend any money during that period.

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Speaker 9: So the third Amendment fixed that by home me so,

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Speaker 9: but the program wasn't the Government Square initiative because the

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Speaker 9: kids aren't in scholar Now it's called that period, it's

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Speaker 9: called summer in the city.

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Speaker 1: Some are in the city.

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Speaker 9: So those programs have absolutely increased the contract value and

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Speaker 9: and they should actually be bid out a separate contracts.

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Speaker 1: Does the contract spell out her her area of areas

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Speaker 1: of expertise and and her background in the different areas,

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Speaker 1: you know, consulting backgrounds, and you know, maybe I don't

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Speaker 1: know miss if she's got a legal background or a

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Speaker 1: criminal justice background, or well the the background in you know,

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Speaker 1: social work or something like that.

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Speaker 9: My main issue with what's going on is these non

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Speaker 9: competitive contracts that the city Procurement rules say very clearly

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Speaker 9: non competitive contracts, soul source contracts should be extremely rare

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Speaker 9: and they require a justification. So the justification for Miss

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Speaker 9: ROLI's it's at one page, basically one paragraph, and it

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Speaker 9: cites her a work in the civil rights movement, and

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Speaker 9: it cites her involvement with the original Collaborative Agreement and

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Speaker 9: all of those things. But my point, and I've made

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Speaker 9: this to the city, is that before COVID, they actually

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Speaker 9: had a city employee on staff doing the things that

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Speaker 9: they've contracted Iris Roli to do and my thing is

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Speaker 9: my thing is if if they were able to hire

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Speaker 9: a city employee to do the work. I don't think

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Speaker 9: that you can say that miss Roli is uniquely qualified

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Speaker 9: or that her qualifications are the only ones that can

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Speaker 9: do the work.

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Speaker 1: And she continues her role on the Citizens Complain of forty,

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Speaker 1: does she not?

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Speaker 9: Yes, she's not on the authority, but well, I'll have

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Speaker 9: to check that. I think I think she interacts with

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Speaker 9: them based on her consulting role. Oh but I don't

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Speaker 9: know if she's still on the on the commission or

2068
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Speaker 9: committee itself.

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Speaker 1: There's there's not very many that can carry out duties

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 9: Yes see. One of the things I thought was that

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Speaker 9: if she's going around telling people, you know, they should

2073
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Speaker 9: be filing complaints against police officers they interact with, all

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Speaker 9: that does is add to the backlog for the Citizens

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Speaker 9: Complain Authority that's already through the roof.

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Speaker 1: So she's out there drumming up work.

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Speaker 9: That's the way it looked at me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Joe, do I got to get to a

2079
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Speaker 1: break here, my late I'm late for a break. I'm

2080
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Speaker 1: late for a break. Let's go ahead and do that

2081
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Speaker 1: now and we'll continue with Todd Zinzer on fifty five

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Speaker 1: k r C. The talk stays this season, make the

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Speaker 1: holiday an unforgotten see the talk station. I'm late whatever

2084
02:11:55,720 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 1: Joe Stucker tells you. That's the voice that god zins

2085
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:03,640
Speaker 1: or Citizen Watchdog. Great to have Men's studio this morning,

2086
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:05,800
Speaker 1: so much stuff to talk about. You showed me a

2087
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Speaker 1: a document a little while ago about that is a

2088
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Speaker 1: financial disclosure from our mayor, and I mean he is

2089
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Speaker 1: he is very well invested. He's he's got an extensive portfolio,

2090
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,640
Speaker 1: so that that is very nice to see. And when

2091
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Speaker 1: it comes to the repossession of his vehicles, was was

2092
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Speaker 1: he supposed to report that to the state of Ohio

2093
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Speaker 1: or what's what's the deal on it?

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Speaker 9: Well, if if you carry debt, if you have creditors,

2095
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:41,520
Speaker 9: you have you have to report that on your financial disclosure. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: the forms that Ohio uses.

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Speaker 1: You've had a look at those forms, have you not have? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They don't. What did you find there?

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Speaker 9: Well, they don't require really any information in terms of,

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02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 9: you know, the debt. They just make make the official

2101
02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 9: list his creditors. And he's done that for three creditors. Uh,

2102
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Speaker 9: but there's no information about how far in debt the

2103
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Speaker 9: mayor is, so that's not extremely useful.

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Speaker 1: There's one.

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Speaker 9: There's three creditors, American Express, Lincoln National, which must be

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Speaker 9: alone on an insurance policy or something, or Lincoln Financial.

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but the third one is an outfit called

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Speaker 9: ACS ACS, and you don't know what ACS really stands for.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of acs is, but I will say

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Speaker 9: that there are ACS's that are collection agencies. So it

2111
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Speaker 9: would just take more information to know whether or not

2112
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Speaker 9: that has anything to do with his repossession of his cars.

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Speaker 1: For for most people, dealing with a collection agency is

2114
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Speaker 1: a one time thing. You know, you've you've missed a

2115
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Speaker 1: payment for whatever reason, or you've got something that you

2116
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:01,760
Speaker 1: overlooked in you deal with that, you get it squared away.

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Speaker 1: And I would not think to put a collection agency

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Speaker 1: on my list of creditors. If I had to fill

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Speaker 1: out such a financial disclosure. Well, his last night, I

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Speaker 1: don't have to do that here at iHeart meeting. You know,

2121
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Speaker 1: I might not be beyond his microphone very long.

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Speaker 9: His last three disclosure reports twenty two, twenty three, twenty four,

2123
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Speaker 9: twenty five not doing until next year. They all list

2124
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Speaker 9: the same three creditors. Yeah, so whatever the debts are

2125
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Speaker 9: to those creditors, they've been long standing. Yeah, okay, so

2126
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Speaker 9: it's the financial statement reports weren't very helpful in terms

2127
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Speaker 9: of figuring out what the truth is about his repossessed

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Speaker 9: vehicles or vehicle whatever, but it did show that he

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Speaker 9: doesn't seem to have a lot of financial problems.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, but the thing is, it's it

2131
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 1: seems so silly that you just don't get in front

2132
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,360
Speaker 1: of this thing, come clean about it. It's it's gonna

2133
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Speaker 1: go Look, a car getting repossessed is not the worst

2134
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Speaker 1: thing that can happen financially, but just own it, put

2135
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Speaker 1: it in the rear view mirror. And but the if

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Speaker 1: he continues the stonewall on this, the truth is out

2137
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Speaker 1: there and eventually when that gets found out, it's going

2138
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Speaker 1: to drag him down. Just get it, get it, get

2139
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Speaker 1: it over with, man. I mean that to me, it

2140
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Speaker 1: seems that that would be the prudent thing to do.

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Speaker 9: That's right, get in front of it, because what happens

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Speaker 9: is if if people think that you're not being forthcoming,

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Speaker 9: they're going to wonder, well, what else is going on?

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Speaker 9: Why why wouldn't he be forthcoming about this because he

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Speaker 9: doesn't want to be embarrassed. Well, he's already in that category.

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Speaker 9: But what else is going on that he would not

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Speaker 9: be forthcoming about this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Kevin Aldrich from The Inquirer wrote

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Speaker 1: a you know, a little column on this, and you know,

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Speaker 1: talking about how trust is the most important currency at city.

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Speaker 1: Haulling just come on, mister mayor, well af in front

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 9: After the railroad vote, both he and Reggie Harris were

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Speaker 9: on TV saying, yeah, we need to rebuild the trust

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Speaker 9: of the people in city Hall. And then they turn

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Speaker 9: around and within a year they do connected communities, right,

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Speaker 9: which majority, if not all, the neighborhood councils opposed. And

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Speaker 9: then they did they did these zoning laws for development

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Speaker 9: that the citizens opposed. Well, they haven't done anything to

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Speaker 9: build trust back.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at your website right now and your podcast

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Speaker 1: from November twenty fifth talks about the city's lead pipe scandal.

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Speaker 1: I want to touch on that before we before we

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Speaker 1: call it a morning. So one more break to get

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Speaker 1: in here, and then we'll continue on with todds In's

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Speaker 1: or Citizen Watchdog on fifty five KRCV. Talk station.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Gary Salvan here, Oder exits a lit.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Morning, Dan Carroll, Ryan Thomas Todds Inzer the Citizen

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Speaker 1: Watchdog is here And you did a podcast back on

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Speaker 1: November twenty fifth. I have not listened to it, but

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Speaker 1: you talk about the city's lead pipe scandal. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: give me a thumbnail of that.

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Speaker 9: Well, the city wound up the water works, I should

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Speaker 9: say wound up conducting an investigation based on an audit,

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Speaker 9: an internal audit that was conducted that found that there

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Speaker 9: were members of the lead crew, or at least one

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Speaker 9: member of the lead crew, that was stealing the scrap

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Speaker 9: lead and instead of processing it for recycling, was selling

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Speaker 9: it on the street to these scrappers.

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Speaker 1: And there was they probably sold it for recycling.

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Speaker 9: Well you hope so, but there's no you know, the

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Speaker 9: trail goes cold. Nobody is, which is my big problem.

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Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of missing lead.

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Speaker 9: Well, the program pipes, the program's been going on five

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Speaker 9: or six years and the recycler never got any scrap leads.

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Speaker 9: So what happened to it? And the issue for me

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Speaker 9: is whether that whether the city did what they call

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Speaker 9: a hazardous waste determination to see whether those lead pipes

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Speaker 9: constitute at hazardous waste. So I do have a request

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Speaker 9: in for that documentation. I haven't gotten it yet, but

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Speaker 9: if they didn't do it hazardous waste determination, they could

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Speaker 9: they could run into trouble with the state EPA and

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Speaker 9: the federally FEDERALPA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would imagine that if in that part

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Speaker 1: of the contract, if you don't follow certain regulations that

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Speaker 1: are laid on and I'm sure there's got to be

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Speaker 1: alone when it comes to dealing with lead pipes and

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Speaker 1: things like that. There's got to be a long list

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Speaker 1: of environmental regulations, even under the Trump administration. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you do not adhere to those, you could be in

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Speaker 1: line for some significant finds, could you not.

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Speaker 9: Right, there's a federal there's a federal law called the

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Speaker 9: Resource Conservation and Recovery Act RICRA, and it has civil

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Speaker 9: and criminal provisions. But the civil provisions are some of

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Speaker 9: these finds can go up to like tens of thousands

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Speaker 9: of dollars a day, and it's a very serious statute.

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Speaker 9: And I just have to believe that the waterworks did

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Speaker 9: their due diligence, did the hazardous waste determination, and we

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Speaker 9: don't have to be concerned about lead pipe scrap lead

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Speaker 9: pipe leaking into our waterworks or water system.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's got to be that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: the lead pipes that were in and around Cincinnati, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, has a great reputation is having one

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Speaker 1: of the absolute best water filtration systems right the entire country.

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Speaker 9: Right, And the Cincinnati Futures Commission recommends get we sell

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Speaker 9: it or regionalize it and lose control of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, for God's sake, all right, Well, let's let's recap

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Speaker 1: because we only got about a minute and a half

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Speaker 1: left here. So Iris Rolli's getting has a contract that's

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Speaker 1: worth about six hundred grand. Yes, so that that that's

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Speaker 1: great for her. The settlement that's going to pay eight

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Speaker 1: point one million dollars to these rioters and people that

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Speaker 1: we're engaging in misbehavior in downtown Cincinnati is very light

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Speaker 1: on specificity. Right.

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Speaker 9: We really don't know whether it was a good case,

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Speaker 9: a bad case in between, or why they're settling.

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Speaker 1: And your recommendation to the members of the committee that

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Speaker 1: are going to look at this today would be to what.

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Speaker 9: I A well, I'd call an executive session and bring

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Speaker 9: make sure that we look at what the Solicitor's office

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Speaker 9: has come up with there should be an absolute risk

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Speaker 9: assessment written provided to the city Council that at least

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Speaker 9: they could deliberate. But the way it's going to work

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Speaker 9: is they're going to propose the ordinance that the chairman

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Speaker 9: of the committee is going to say, we got this ordinance,

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Speaker 9: and then they'll go around to each member and each

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Speaker 9: member will pontificate about why this is such a great deal.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to take public comment at

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Speaker 1: this at this committee meeting.

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Speaker 9: They will at the beginning of every committee meeting and

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Speaker 9: the council full council, they give people two minutes.

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Speaker 1: Could be an entertaining it could be and the and

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Speaker 1: the mayor is very well invested and should not let

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Speaker 1: this repossession thing drag him down.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I think he needs to tell the truth

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Speaker 9: about what was going on with these repossessions.

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Speaker 1: Todds Zen's aer a great meeting in person, man, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming in. And now I know

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Speaker 1: you've got a high level meeting that you have to

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Speaker 1: go to with Joe Strecker, So you do. That's going

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Speaker 1: to be the highlight of your day right there. Todd

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Speaker 1: Zen's are all the best to you man. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll see you down the road and that's

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Speaker 1: it for me. Glenn Beck is coming up next. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening.